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Stalkers and Memorable Contests/Stunts · Rik and that Michele Chick

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Welcome to Rick and that Michelle chick.
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I'm that Michelle chick. And I'm Rick.
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Welcome. So let's discuss stalkers in
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this episode, which I don't know about you, but I've had a few.
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Yeah. Have you?
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Yeah, I'm, I'm sure I have. But so one of the things we
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talked about earlier about how a fact of great female disc jockey
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is a diamond, you know, it's hard to come by.
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Well I know that compared to the men, I'm sure women get way more
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stalkers than the men do. Right, which is why having fake
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names for us is probably a very good thing in that regard.
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Absolutely. That's that's a good reason to
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have a fake name. Absolutely.
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Yeah, which we can discuss fake names later if we have enough
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time. I feel like you and I have
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enough stalkers that we could probably almost fill this hour
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so. We'll, we'll, we'll see.
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Yeah, I'll have. To I have to jog, I have to jog
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my memory so. OK, well my first stalker, I
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don't know if you could call him a stalker, but it was my first
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time dealing with something like this.
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It was when I was working part time at KX Double D doing the
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overnight weekends and at that time we were in this old single
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wide trailer with an addition. I mean, just this rickety
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rundown building and there was a window next to the door and the
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door would be, you know, locked after business hours obviously.
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And for radio stations, there is a doorbell that lights up a
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light so that we know that someone is at the door to go
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answer it. And if you, you know, were busy
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or didn't see this light, we all learned that we could slide this
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window open and then reach in and unlock the door and get in.
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OK. Yes, so and, and a lot of us did
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it all. I think we just started doing
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it. I, I don't even think we would
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buzz the door. We would just slide the window
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open, unlock the door and go in. And I was working a shift and my
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then boyfriend, now my husband Jay at the time had been out
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with his friends and he decided to stop by and say hi.
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So it was probably around I'm, I would guess one 1:30 AM and he
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rang the buzzer and I was busy. So I didn't, I wasn't able to
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answer the door right away. And for some reason, he realized
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that the front door was unlocked.
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So he came inside and he discovered a guy that was
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standing in the hallway. And at the time the building was
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set up, so there were windows all the way through.
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So there was the reception window, the AM studio was
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encased in windows and then a window into the KXWD studio
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where I was. So this guy was able where he
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was standing, he was able to see me, but I could not see him.
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At Scary. Yeah, who knows how long he had
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been there? My husband asked him, Who are
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you? And this guy just bolted out the
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front door. It was super freaky.
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We don't know who the guy was. It never happened again, thank
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goodness. And after after that, they put a
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stick in the window so that we can no longer slide the window
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open to unlock the door. So that's my first kind of dip
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into the pool of slightly stalkers, and I have another one
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that was a little bit more serious.
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But do you want to tell a story? And then I'll tell my serious.
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Stalkers. Yeah, yours is a scary one, man.
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Yours is like. This is an even better one, my
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next one. Oh my gosh, yours is like movie
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of the week on TV. The the D, the DJ that got
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stalked or whatever that would make.
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Yeah, they're going to get they're going to get Patty Duke
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or they're going to get one of those.
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They're going to get Eve Plum for Brady Bunch to play you
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basically because. Oh, is that who you say?
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Well, remember when they would do the cheesy TV movies of the
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week or whatever, and so you'd have, you know, old sitcom stars
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or whatever that can't get a gig, you know?
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And I think what was it? Was it Patty Duke?
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I mean, it's kind of like the Hallmark Channel now where it's
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always like Lindsay Lohan Lacey. Charbet from Perth.
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Yeah, thank. You that's yeah, she's on all
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all those I love Kelly Martin those kind of you know, the the
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movie of the week at the radio station with Kelly Martin
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playing you basically and getting stalked.
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That's that's a crazy story, so. OK, your story go.
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So here's one thing that you learn and I don't, I know we
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haven't talked about it yet, but just as our voice or we, just as
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we are not what people perceive us to be on the radio, what we
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perceive the listener to be is also the double edged sword.
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So my first radio station working at KCLK in Clarkston,
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WA, I was 18 years old at the time.
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And this, this person kept calling all the time and she had
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a great voice. And so, and I was, oh, OK, well,
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she's got a great voice. And so she would call in and
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make requests and we would talk blah, blah, blah.
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Well, So what happened one night I thought, you know what,
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because I was single at the time, I thought, you know what,
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I'll just ask her out. Never.
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You already know, you already know how this is going to turn
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out. So anyway, I had, I had asked,
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she had a great voice, asked her out.
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So I picked her up at her house. I think we were close to the
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same age. She's probably a little older, I
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guess, maybe a couple years older.
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She absolutely did not look like her voice at all.
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Did she have? A face for radio.
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Well, it's not even about it's not even about that.
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All I can say is I really believe in life that we all have
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a physicality. So on a rare occasion you see a
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four with a 10. But but but it no, and I'll I'll
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be the four. I'm OK with that.
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But you, but normally you normally eights and nines and
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10s all hang out with each other.
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So when you so when, yeah. So when you do see a one with a
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10, you're like, Dang, you know, hey, great job, blah, blah,
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blah. And it's pretty.
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We've talked about this before on the show.
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It's perfectly possible to be a 2 or a three and pull in a 10
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because you've got a great personality.
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But you're ugly, as you know. So you have a lot of money.
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Or well, well, there you go, you just said it.
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I didn't say it. So anyway, she looked nothing,
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absolutely nothing. So there was not an ounce of
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like, not even like, oh, because, because come on now,
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Michelle, I know, I know you haven't been as worldly as me,
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but I mean, there's there's people I would make out with,
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but I would never like date. Does that make sense?
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Oh yeah, OK. Right.
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Of course there's people I would kiss and you know, but that that
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would be it. You'd make out and that'd be it.
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You'd never see him again. OK, well, this wasn't even in
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that universe. Like it wasn't even a a
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possibility of like we were going to, we were going to have
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any relations after this date. So I think I took her bowling
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and then I took her to the skating rink where I was working
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at the time. And Pokey might, my first wife,
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just laughed her ass off because and #1 she couldn't skate, so
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she was falling down all over the place.
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So I look like a, you know, like trying to pick her up, you know.
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And anyway, so Pokey just laughed and laughed and laughed
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and I got back to her place and she tried to invite me in, you
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know, I mean, she basically put it all out on the table.
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And I said, yeah, I think I'll just be heading on home.
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So not really a stalker, but the first lesson of radio is just
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like that. Our voices don't look like our
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faces. Guess what?
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On the other end, they they do not.
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Yeah. Have you now, I guess that's the
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number one rule is you don't you don't date listeners.
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It's kind of like we're going to strip club.
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We're going to strip club. You don't date the clientele.
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So I learned my lesson really early going forward.
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I was 18. I said OK.
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After that, I said Nope. And I don't recall looking back
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as long as you've known me. I've never dated A listener.
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Have. I don't think so, not.
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That I can recall. No, no.
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So I mean. If you did, it was in secret and
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you didn't tell I, I don't. I mean, I've met people by being
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the radio DJ, you know, as the radio DJ, but I don't think I
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ever had anybody. I never, they never called in.
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And, you know, we hooked well, well, well, well, when I was
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working at when I was working at Z1O3 in Idaho Falls.
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So it's so funny. This is a funny story.
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So Z1O3 out kind of, I was like 23 years old, 23 years old.
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I was a young kid. Yeah, this was 1992.
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And if you know anything about Idaho Falls and Pocatello and
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Boise and Rexburg, Rexburg has the big Mormon college, right?
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So they wore so, So I've always said this and I'll say it again,
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the easiest person is the preacher's daughter.
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If you're ever curious, you know, if you, if you want a, a,
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a score easiest first. So anyway, I was working night.
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I was working overnights on Z1O3.
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This gal calls up out of the blue and we, we kind of hit it
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off and she's like, well, I'll, I'll just come back to you, to
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your apartment Da da, da, da da. So that was the, the one time I
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did take a listener home, You know, she was, and she wasn't,
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she wasn't, you know, me being a four, she was a four.
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So that that we kind of, you know, four or five.
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We it was, it was. Yeah, it wasn't, Yeah.
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It was like, OK, I, you know, but but I will tell you this.
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And, and to not make it sound as exciting as it was, you do
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realize that it's hard to have sex with a complete stranger
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that you have, that you've just met.
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You know, it really, it really is because it's like if you're
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not vibing, you're not vibing. Some people, I guess some people
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can, some people can vibe. But you and I both know the
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first time is always the most awkward of all.
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Oh. Yes.
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It just, it just is. So it wasn't, I'm sure it wasn't
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that enjoyable to her at all. And it really wasn't that
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enjoyable to me. So looking back, I wish I could
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take that away because because it really was like, what were
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you thinking? I was a stupid kid.
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But I think that's about in terms of doing some stupid
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stuff. It was a lesson learned.
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Don't date the listeners. Yep, isn't #2 don't eat homemade
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food brought. Oh yeah, when they leave, yeah.
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So I'll take my. Chances if you know them right.
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I'll take my chances. I'll take my chances with the
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food. Now I I cannot tell Alliance I
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haven't had, I can't say I haven't had admirers because you
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know, we not not necessarily stalkers because you've seen
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them. You've seen I've had admirers,
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right? You know, But I would not say
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anybody that literally stalked me or wouldn't, you know, play
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play misty for me. You are.
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You are, I do. I know you do, so I'm sure you
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have another story. Let's hear it.
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I do, yeah. So the next stalker I had was
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definitely a lot more serious. It was when I worked at KFFM.
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The second time, which I don't know if you were there or not,
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it would have been during this time period.
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And you know, of course, this is what, 19, 99 and back?
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Then there's. There's no Internet, so our
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listeners couldn't just look on the Internet to see what we
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looked like. They would have to.
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They would have to come to a remote broadcast or something
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like that. And I was doing a remote
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broadcast. I don't remember where it was,
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but this guy, he came up to me and he said hi.
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He introduced himself. I remember his name because this
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name will stick with me forever. His name was Walter.
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I don't remember his last name though.
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And just in that instant when he came up to me and said hi, I got
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that spite feeling, that girl like weird, creepy vibe that we
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get off of men. And again, I was at a remote
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broadcast, so I had to be nice, you know, civil he was, he's a
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listener, right? You know, so I couldn't be rude
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or anything. So I'm just normal nice.
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I'm not overly nice or anything like that.
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Then maybe a week or two later I was pumping gas and the same guy
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was across the pump from me pumping gas and he said hi to me
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and I didn't really think anything of it.
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I thought, OK, this is just a coincidence at the time, but it
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was kind of weird. And again, I got that off vibe
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and I and I just tried to be nice.
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Not overly nice, just I just want to get my gas, get in the
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car and go. Then a few weeks later I'm at
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Costco and you know, Costco has the little 2 seater carts for
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kids, a little double seater. So yes, Matthew and Benjamin are
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with me in the cart. They're probably too like I'm
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getting chills just thinking about this.
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They are probably 2 and one I want to say if I remember right.
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And I see out of the corner of my eye this guy Walter walking
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up to me. And in this creepy voice he
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says, are these your kids? And which I'm getting chills
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again. I got chills.
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And I just tried to be nice to just try and get away from him.
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I'm like, you know, I'm, I got to go.
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I'm really busy. You know, I'm got to be
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somewhere. And I just got what I needed and
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got out of Costco. I was freaked out.
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But it gets even better. So after Costco, a few weeks
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later, I'm at home with Matthew and Benjamin.
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And again, this is before the Internet where you can't just
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look up people's addresses. And I open the door.
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Yep, Yep. I open the door and it is a
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Walter. She is standing at my front door
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and I freaked out like I think my brain just started to glitch
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because I didn't I didn't know what to do because in I'm
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thinking why is he at my house? What am I going to do?
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I'm by myself with my kids. So again, I just tried to be
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nice, not overly nice but try to, you know, get him.
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So leave right? I I don't even remember what I
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said to him. So then I told my husband and we
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called the police and luckily I knew a few police officers on
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the police force. But again, this is 1999, so
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although we had stalker laws, they weren't as good as they are
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now, right? Right.
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So the police came over. I told him everything that had
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been happening. They did have a report and they
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said that I didn't have grounds. I did not have grounds for a
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restraining order because he didn't threaten me or, you know,
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do anything like that. But my police friends said that
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they would go talk to him, right, Right.
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And give him a warning. And I never saw or heard from
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him again. So I'm assuming he got the shit
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feed out of him. So that's my stalker and after
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that I had to have this reoccurring dream because of it.
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But if you have any more stalker stories, you can go ahead and
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then I'll tell you my nightmare. That's I was trying to think.
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I mean, it's I might have always been not necessarily stalkers,
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but I do remember one time when I was working at and you jog my
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memory. I was working at KATW at
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Katafemin. And so here's an interesting
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story. So my first real girlfriend when
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I came back from college, I was the overnight DJ at KCLK and she
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was the overnight DJ at KATW. So and so and so we ended up she
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was my very first girlfriend and we real like real girlfriend,
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you know, not junior high or high school, but actual real
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real girlfriend. And so we dated for and no, this
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is crazy when I say the timetable dated for like 4
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months and, and, and I, and I, you know, not to get explicit,
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but I, that's who I lost my virginity to.
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So I lost my virginity in the parking lot of the radio station
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in her blue. That's kind of fitting for you.
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Though in her blue. In her blue Toyota Celica, you
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know so. And trust me again, as I always
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joke, it wasn't great. At least, at least at least not
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on my side. It wasn't great.
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Time never is. It never is so and So what
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happened was interesting enough was she started, she did break
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up with me, but she started dating the janitor.
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So she did the overnight shift at the at the radio station.
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She got promoted to six to midnight and there was a janitor
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that would clean this radio station and his and she ended up
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marrying the guy. She did end up marrying the guy.
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So interesting enough. So I lost my job at KCLK.
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You're going to love this story because this is the best story
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ever. Lost my job at KCLK, put my tape
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in over at K at Cat FM. Within a week I was working over
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at KATW, the same radio station. Now we have broken up.
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We're broken up. She's doing 6 to midnight and
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maybe if she even, I think she even got as far up as midday.
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She was doing middays. And so I was just a part timer.
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Well, what happened was new owners took over and then just
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like you know how radio works, she went from middays to nights.
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So it was funny that at one time I was overnight, midnight to six
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and she was doing 6 to midnight. They replaced me.
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I replaced. We flipped shifts.
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So they because they wanted to get rid of her, so they put me 6
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to midnight and then they put her midnight to 6.
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And so the janitor kind of being a blockhead, guess what?
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He goes, oh, I'm going to go kick his ass.
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I'm going to, you know, so I get this call at the radio station
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where and I kind of wish I could remember his name.
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I mean, I know her name, but I can't recall his name.
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He's like, I'm going to come down and kick your ass.
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You better be ready. So I call my buddy Randy, my
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best buddy Randy, and Randy says I'll be yeah, yeah, I'll be down
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there in a little bit, Rick. So he comes down, Randy comes
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down all dressed up. I'm like, what the he's?
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Dressed up for a fight. Yes, and I said, I said, I said
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why you dressed up? He's like, well, if we're gonna
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get our, if we're gonna get our asses kicked, I want to look
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good doing it. We're going to jail.
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He wants to be all dressed up for sitting in his jail cell
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like. Yeah, I was like, you don't want
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to be somebody's bitch in jail. But anyway, so my buddy Randy
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shows up. So he's all dressed up.
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I'm like, Oh my God, we're gonna get in this fight, this rumble
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here. And he called again and said I'm
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gonna come down there. So we're like, hey, come get us.
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And he never, he of course, you know, like it never showed up.
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So I did, I did call the the Lewiston Police Department and
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the, again, this is 1989. So this is free anything, you
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know? Oh yeah.
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There's no. Stock, almost even free
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computers basically. And the cop comes down and goes,
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what's his name? I gave him his name goes yeah,
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we'll go have a talk with him and you'll never bother you.
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And he, he never did. She ended up marrying him and
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they ended up having a bunch of kids.
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They did break. I mean, they did get a divorce
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later down the road and all all of that.
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And it was so funny. So Logan, she has a daughter
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that's Logan's age. And so I remember them going to
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school together and shame on me because you should never tell a
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teenager anything. Because I said, oh, I, I, I
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know, I, I know, I know her mom. Well, duh, duh, duh, duh.
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And I, I have a very open relationship with my son.
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So he knew what it kind of transpired.
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I told Logan, I know. I said Logan, yeah, I lost my
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virginity to your mom. Well, do you think he went and
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told the the his his friend? Of course.
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Well. Of course.
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Oh my God. So I was more embarrassed.
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I was more embarrassed by really Logan, you went to we went to
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the daughter and said, hey, by the way, you know, I mean, of
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course, I mean, she knows who I am.
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Absolutely. So it was a little a little
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embarrassing when they'd come to visit night, the daughter was
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there. I'm like really no jeans.
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OK, so, but it's kind of a funny story, but yeah, the, the cops
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did the same thing. So, you know, you get those
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weird calls, you do get those random weird calls.
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Not now. Again, we can dispel the the,
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the secret. We're not live 24/7 anymore.
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No. So when you were live 24/7,
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crazy things could just happen. I mean, they did.
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Oh, yeah. Because you're live 24 hours a
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day, midnight to six, you're working.
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I mean, you know, there's some scary, there could be some scary
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things, you know, Like tell us about your nightmare because I'm
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sure, I'm sure it's pretty scary.
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Well, yeah, I mean, thankfully I did not have any more stalkers
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after Walter, but I mean again, I didn't get back into radio
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until I was like what, in my late to mid 40s?
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And who the hell wants to stalk a middle-aged woman?
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So. A voice over guy so.
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So, yeah, so but after after we can, we can talk about that in a
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different episode. But yes, after Walter, my
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stalker, I would have this reoccurring dream.
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It would happen periodically really for no reason.
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And I wouldn't even call it a dream.
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I would call it a nightmare. It was it was a nightmare, but
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this nightmare would be that I was getting into my car and
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somebody would come up behind me.
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They would use chloroform or something like that to knock me
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out, tie me up, gag me, put put me in their trunk.
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I can't see the kidnappers face because they have that that
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black face ski mask thing on. And whoever it is takes me to
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this remote cabin. And the dream always ends with
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me lying on the floor. I've been stabbed.
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And you know how that pool of blood just oozes out from a
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body? Yes.
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And I would be starting to float above my body.
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So basically I'm dead and my spirit is leaving my body.
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And I would wake up. You know how you feel like
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you're living this dream or nightmare?
22:03
My heart, yeah, my heart would be racing.
22:06
I would be scared to death but thankfully now that I'm out of
22:11
radio I do not have this nightmare anymore.
22:14
But I try to avoid any shows that have to do with stalkers
22:18
which I've never watched. That Netflix show you.
22:22
Because I heard, because I. Heard that That's what it was
22:24
about. I didn't know.
22:26
That's true. OK, good.
22:27
Yeah, I've never watched. It total creeper.
22:31
Oh good OK so I I will not be watching that show.
22:34
I try to stay away from episodes of those Criminal Minds or
22:38
whatever that have to deal with that.
22:40
So so yeah. So that's.
22:42
Very, I mean, it really, it really is.
22:45
We're just seeing that that, that murder trial wrap up in
22:48
Moscow, ID, which is close to my my home of Clarkson and Lewiston
22:52
30. That's 30 miles up the, the
22:53
road, you know, and the guy pleaded guilty even though
22:57
everybody kind of suspected he was guilty.
22:59
But that stuff, that Dateline, you know, NBC stuff really does
23:04
happen. And and it can happen to and
23:07
happen to radio people. I want to say many years ago,
23:10
and I definitely don't want to go deep into it, but I remember
23:13
in Spokane, I want to say it was a radio female DJ, radio female
23:17
DJ that was coming, that was working midnight to 6 had gotten
23:20
raped, that that a listener had been stalking them.
23:25
And you hear a lot of these horrific stories.
23:28
Rebecca Shaffer from the TV show My Sister Sam, she was an
23:33
aspiring actress and they literally got the stalker got
23:36
her phone number, I mean her address from the phone book back
23:39
in the day before. And they passed the Rebecca
23:41
Shaffer law after she got killed because the stalker showed up.
23:46
The stalker saw her. So she was on My Sister Sam with
23:49
Pam Mork and Mindy's Pam Dauber. So yeah.
23:53
So they, it was a it was a three season show by Sister Sam in the
23:57
late 80s. And so she went on Rebecca
23:59
Shapes is just an actress, a young kid.
24:01
Well, she went on and did a movie where she took her top
24:03
off. And so the stalker was like how
24:08
you know, cuz he had a, a purity thing, you know, of her and, and
24:14
he and she answered the door because they are address.
24:18
She was, I mean, she wasn't, she wasn't famous, famous, famous,
24:21
but she was still a working actress and famous enough.
24:25
And, and she opened the door and she and she and he shot her
24:27
point blank because of this. So I think about all these,
24:30
these scary things that definitely can happen more and,
24:32
and not the min cat. These things can't happen to
24:34
men, but it but it's predominantly women because they
24:38
because these guys get such fantasies and it's it's just,
24:44
it's absolutely crazy when you think about how obsessed a fan,
24:47
a fan can get. Yeah.
24:49
I, I, I've had, I've had obsessed I was talking to.
24:54
So I not from a radio standpoint, but when I was in
24:57
high school, I had an obsessed, I was at church group, church
25:02
group. There was a girl and I want to
25:04
say her name, her name was Janine or Jeannie.
25:07
And I could not shake her, you know, she was obsessed and she
25:13
later apologized. I started the grocery store when
25:15
we were adults and she came up and actually apologized to me.
25:17
She goes, Oh my God, I'm so sorry.
25:19
But like, I, I, I, I, I deserved it just so, you know, looking,
25:25
looking, but not that I deserve I did not, I did not lead her
25:27
on. Just so you know, I did not lead
25:28
her on. I told her no from the get go.
25:30
But but anybody knows anything about me and my obsessive
25:33
personality, I should, you know, I, I got a good, yeah, I got a
25:37
good like, yeah, Rick. That's how it feels when it,
25:40
when the full Rick Michaels goes on and the full Rick Michaels,
25:42
Monty, you know, you think I would take it.
25:45
You think I would have taken a note from that because, you
25:48
know, anyway, so I've had, I mean, I've had some, some
25:52
obsessed people with that. Yeah, I've had a few.
25:54
But nothing like your level, nothing like where I was like I
25:57
never felt in fear of my life or any of those things.
26:00
But I can totally see. And I think it like at the time,
26:04
it wasn't so much me I was concerned about, it was more
26:07
after, right after he saw Matthew and Benjamin that really
26:11
attacked me over the edge. Well, it's really weird when
26:13
we're on radio because I remember that Logan Pokey and I
26:17
had gone to Red Robin one night in Yakima and we and, and there
26:21
was a couple in front of us or some people in front of us.
26:23
Well, they recognized me from the radio station and they
26:26
turned around and they looked right at Logan, who was
26:28
probably, I don't know, six or seven at the time, and goes, oh,
26:30
you must be Logan. And Logan took a big step back.
26:34
Yeah. Like he's like, I don't know you
26:38
stranger. Danger.
26:39
That's one thing I love. Yeah, that's I I will say that's
26:41
the one thing I can honestly say about my my son, which was nice,
26:45
is he was never there. There are children that will
26:47
walk up to complete strangers and start a conversation.
26:51
My son never in a billion like no, like Nope.
26:55
I don't know you. I don't, I don't talk to you.
26:59
And so I was always proud of him that way.
27:00
But yeah, this listener comes up and literally goes, oh, you must
27:02
be Logan in a very nice way. And he's like, no, babe steps
27:05
back, steps back and goes, I don't know you.
27:08
Well, because we, again, we talk about our lives and our kids and
27:12
Oh yeah, because we're real people.
27:14
And then our listeners, our, our friends, they get to know us and
27:18
our families and our kids. And so it's just natural that
27:21
they would say. That well, because they.
27:24
Know him? The, the, you know, The funny
27:26
thing about my neighborhood where I live is I didn't, I
27:29
didn't, I, I know my neighbors, but I never went out and said,
27:31
hi, I'm Rick from the radio. I've never once ever, I never
27:35
once mentioned that I'm on the radio.
27:37
They find out interesting enough, they find out one time
27:40
it was so funny was Barkley had gotten out into the pasture
27:43
behind our house. And so my neighbor, my neighbor
27:46
to the, to the, to the right, I'd gone out looking for Barkley
27:49
and she came out and goes, oh, is your dog missing us?
27:51
Yeah, he's a border collie, blah, blah, blah.
27:53
And we're talking in our conversation.
27:55
She goes and then, and then Barkley heard my voice.
27:57
And so Barkley comes from the pasture.
28:00
You know, he's in trouble. And then I go in the house.
28:02
Well, like 2 weeks later, I'm walking, I, I go for a walk and
28:06
I come around the bin and she stops me.
28:07
She goes, oh, hang on a second, don't wait, wait, wait.
28:10
So yeah, what's going on? And she's like, she goes, you're
28:12
on the radio. And I said, oh, I and I go, I
28:15
am. And she goes, yeah, because
28:16
when, while we were having a conversation, when Barkley was
28:18
missing, she's like, I know your voice.
28:20
Why do I know your voice? And then she goes, then I'm
28:23
driving down the road listening to one of the radio stations and
28:25
there you are. And I went, he's on the radio.
28:28
So those are things that I, you're the same way.
28:31
I don't go out and say, hey, I'm on the radio cuz who cares?
28:34
And then my other neighbor was so funny.
28:36
I was making, I was doing a bit one day where I knew all the
28:39
pets in the neighborhood, like, like, like there, like there's
28:42
Joey and there's Bailey and there's Georgia.
28:46
And I said, but I have no idea what my neighbors names are
28:48
like. I have no idea.
28:49
So I'm talking to my neighbor. That sounds like you.
28:52
Yeah, it does. Well, and so I'm talking to my
28:54
neighbor about the fence line. And in the middle of the
28:57
conversation he goes, oh, by the way, my name is Jonathan.
28:59
And I went, oh, well, hi Jonathan.
29:02
And I go, I go, oh, you must listen to the show.
29:05
He goes, oh, yeah, I listen all the time.
29:06
I know because I know your voice.
29:09
And he goes, my name's Jonathan. So it's it's funny.
29:11
And then and then my neighbors up from across also listen to
29:14
Kord. And so when Barkley or Roxy, Oh,
29:17
there's Barkley, Oh, there's Roxy, there's Bodie.
29:20
So it's you know, so it's not that I went out and said, Hey,
29:24
I'm on the radio. But but they they recognize your
29:26
voice. So it, it, it really is in the
29:29
most interesting places, like, like you said, the grocery
29:31
store. You know, if, if I'm and I'm
29:34
just checking out, I'm not saying anything, but but people
29:37
will come up go you, you know, or I was in line one time at
29:40
yokes and then the gallant for me was talking to her little
29:42
daughter goes, Oh, that, that's Rick.
29:44
He's on the radio. I was like, Oh, I said, well,
29:46
nice to meet you guys. Then I and then if they, you
29:48
know, have a conversation with me, I'll have a conversation.
29:50
But it is funny that I mean it's it's like, and then again, it's
29:55
interesting as you well know, Michelle, like in Yakima, you
29:59
got your Dave Edels or you got your Micas or you've got people
30:02
that are really well known. But you and I encountered the
30:05
points of that. I'm not well known but voice
30:09
wise if I'm in a crowd. Yes.
30:12
People will go not, not, they won't say Rick.
30:14
They just go. That guy's on the radio.
30:16
Right, they recognize your voice, where at least with mine,
30:19
nobody hardly ever recognize my voice.
30:22
So sounds good. Well, because you're not walking
30:24
around. I mean, it's funny that people
30:26
think we should talk about the fact that people think that you
30:28
have a different voice on the radio and you don't.
30:30
You are who you are. Right.
30:33
So people like, oh, use your radio voice.
30:34
This is my radio. Yes, I hated that.
30:37
Which again, you know, when my daughter would make that
30:39
comment. Oh, Mom's using her radio voice.
30:42
Oh, yeah. The only thing is it's a little
30:44
bit louder. And usually it's because I'm
30:46
pissed off at you. So it's.
30:48
Not called your mom Voicey Logan.
30:49
Called. No, she would call it and I
30:51
think she would do it just to like irritate because she would
30:54
be like, oh. There's her radio voice.
30:56
Mom, she was in her radio voice. I'll.
30:58
Remember that Logan just used dad like, oh, dad, she's in his
31:00
dad voice, you know, So it's one of those one of those things.
31:04
But it is, it is funny to, we do get some anonymity because now
31:09
they can go on and see what we look like.
31:11
But for the most part, we still get a lot of anonymity compared
31:14
to being on the TV. We've got you and I both have
31:16
friends have been on the that are on the TV.
31:17
Mike McCabe, good friend of mine, we started out together in
31:20
Lewiston. He's the big weather forecaster.
31:22
He gets wrecked. You know, Micah, the former
31:25
mayor, you know, we couldn't get anywhere with Mike as we've
31:28
talked about earlier episodes. Like, like, shit, dude, I just
31:31
want to get a sandwich at Subway.
31:32
Can you, you know, let's move it along.
31:33
Let's move it along, dude. We.
31:35
We only have an hour lunch, come on.
31:37
Let's go exactly. And they want to talk about, you
31:39
know, levies and dams and taxes. What's going on in the city?
31:44
That's right. So yeah, stalker stalkers are
31:48
always in. Stalkers are interesting, that's
31:50
for sure. And, and have you ever gotten,
31:53
I've gotten, I've gotten letters, not love letters, but
31:56
I, I have gotten, Hey, I, we, we recently just got one from a
32:01
girl that graduated high school in Pasco out of the blue.
32:04
We get her, we get her announcement and it goes, hi, my
32:07
name is hi. Hi, my name is Brittany.
32:09
I'm graduating from Pasco High this year.
32:11
Just wanted to say that I'm going to go to school at WSU and
32:14
how much I'm going to miss the show.
32:15
I like it when you guys do Facebook fun or whatever.
32:18
And I'm like, well, we were like, who's this, like this?
32:20
We've never encountered this person.
32:21
And totally. And, and the nice thing is what
32:24
makes it. There are still a lot of nice
32:25
people that listen or I guess regular people.
32:29
Yeah, because we've talked about prize.
32:31
Pigs and different. Things well, there's still a lot
32:33
of other nice people that listen.
32:34
So I've always been pleasantly surprised.
32:38
I've always been pleasantly surprised when I get AI get a
32:40
letter which the the thing now. Is for if you have extra high
32:46
school announcements or graduation invites is to send
32:50
them to different places. We did this with Shaylee.
32:53
So. Oh, so you're saying it was
32:54
nothing? Well, no, I'm not saying.
32:56
That I guess if she didn't handle that letter.
32:59
If she did write a. Letter away kit then that yeah
33:02
that means more you don't realize you.
33:05
Don't think about, you know, you do in a sense, because we've,
33:08
we've done a lot of charities, we've done a lot of different
33:11
things and you can really, you can really make it impact.
33:13
You don't think you make an impact.
33:14
You can make everybody makes an impact in the, in this world.
33:17
If you might not even think you're making an impact, but you
33:20
are. I remember working at the
33:21
skating rink many years ago and this girl gave me a Polaroid,
33:26
you know, and she's like, hey, she goes and and she goes, Hey,
33:29
Virgil, I think you because I, you know, I was the long haired
33:32
DJ at the skating rink as well as being on the radio.
33:35
And this girl was in a children's home.
33:37
She was in a children's home. And she sent me a really nice
33:40
letter saying, Hey, I think you're a cool dude.
33:41
Da, da, da, da, da. And there she is all gothed out
33:44
and there's Metallica and Tool and Rammstein behind her.
33:48
I'm like, Oh yeah, we'll work out perfect.
33:50
That that's my shit. No, but she was super cool.
33:53
Tell me she was really, you know, And so I, I the the thing
33:56
I've always found totally fascinating.
33:58
And you, as you've gotten to know me, Michelle, through the
34:01
years, I'm always bewildered by all the wild women, the tatted
34:08
goth rock chicks, all the, you know, the wild women are
34:11
interested in the nerds. It is only it, it always has.
34:15
It's always fascinated me to some extent, you know, So it's
34:19
what it's one of those things where if I if I, if I get hit
34:22
on, it's like left field, like, wow, that way.
34:26
Not that I wouldn't go out with them, but it's just like, why
34:29
would I even be interesting to that person, if that makes
34:31
sense, right? Maybe that's because the other.
34:33
Goth men, you know, have that bad boy image and bad boys are
34:40
fun for a while, but it gets old and you nerds are nice.
34:44
Yeah, and and it's. And interesting because you just
34:47
don't know when you're in radio. So it's so funny is my one of
34:51
the girlfriends I had after I got a divorce from Pokey was a
34:54
girl named Heather. You don't you never met Heather.
34:56
But it's interesting how Heather and I met was Ken, Ken Heman.
35:01
Remember Ken Heman at the radio station?
35:03
He was the rock guy. He comes up to me and he goes,
35:06
hey, by the way, there's this, there's this.
35:08
Well, girl, but woman, I guess, you know, at whistling Jack who
35:12
thinks you're cool. And I went what?
35:14
Because you know, me, I'm always shocked.
35:16
And, and he goes, yeah, me and my wife and I, Sandra hung out
35:19
with her man. She's a, she's a rock chick and,
35:21
you know, and she smokes cigs and she's, you know, tattooed up
35:24
and biker chick and she really wants to meet you.
35:27
And I said what? No, they like this is this is
35:30
not even a, you know, I just don't understand it.
35:33
And so, so I met her and we ended up going out for a while
35:37
before I moved to Bakersfield. And she was, she's super cool.
35:39
She was, but we were so like she was like in, you know, into
35:42
motorcycles and, yeah, hard, heavy metal.
35:45
Like this is complete opposite of me.
35:47
And I was, and I and I asked her.
35:49
I said, I said what? Like, how did you, How did she
35:52
found me? I didn't find her.
35:54
She found me. And she said that Tom and I were
35:57
at McDonald's one day and she was with her boyfriend at the
36:01
time. And she looks over and sees me.
36:04
And then I leave with Tom and she goes up to the counter and
36:08
goes, hey, by any chance you knew who those two guys were?
36:10
And they go, yeah, that's Rick and Tom from the radio station.
36:13
That is so random. That is random.
36:16
And then? So crazy.
36:17
And then and then. Heather started.
36:19
Working at Whistling Jack Lodge with Ken's wife Sandra.
36:23
And you go, oh, my husband works at Katz, just just.
36:26
And this was a year later. This was a year later after she
36:28
saw me, you know, a year later she goes, well, do you know
36:32
Rick? And she goes, yeah, we know Rick
36:35
did it out. Well, can you set me up?
36:37
So it anyway just isn't that like the oddest like yeah, that
36:41
is. Random.
36:43
It was almost fate. No, Well, no.
36:45
She's super and. She's, we're still friends
36:47
today, but it was just kind of cool that that like what you
36:51
look across the room and a year later we were going on a date
36:54
and I didn't know, like I didn't know.
36:57
I didn't know it at the time, but it's kind of interesting how
37:00
you know. You just don't.
37:01
You don't know #1 Like you said, when you're in the public eye,
37:05
people are, people are observing you all the time.
37:07
People are. Oh, that happened to.
37:09
Well, actually, if you want a crazy story, that's how Megan
37:12
and I for the most part met too. I don't have I ever talked about
37:15
how Megan and I met, so I'm not on our.
37:18
Podcast, right? So Megan and I met on Match.
37:21
Dot com we met on match.com. The funny thing about it was I
37:26
was doing an event where they dumped the ducks into the, the
37:30
Columbia River. So that's that big Rotary where
37:32
they, the ducks float down the river.
37:34
So I was in seeing that event that day with Kevin Yuretsky
37:38
from the TV and then, and Megan had just moved to the
37:41
tri-cities. And so I was doing a big, a big
37:45
stunt to where I was living in a tent raising money for this
37:47
cause. And so she went home and she's
37:51
on match.com and she sees my face and goes, I know that I
37:57
know that person. So she clicks a little :) on it.
38:02
And she go. And so she sends me a message.
38:04
She goes, hey, are you the DJ that's living in a tent?
38:07
And I wrote back, Well, I don't live in a tent all the time.
38:12
So and then. She always tells people that she
38:17
saw me at this event, she saw me at this event before we ever
38:21
actually met, before you matched on match.com.
38:24
Before we matched? Yeah, Before we matched on.
38:26
Match.com So it was now that I'm going to say was fate there.
38:31
There you go. And at at the time, some
38:34
Schwan's girl was into me. So I would.
38:35
Yeah. Sue because.
38:37
Yeah. Well, yeah, so I don't.
38:40
I don't think not. Megan doesn't know that part of
38:42
the story. But but there was a girl.
38:44
There was a Schwan's girl that had a boyfriend.
38:47
No, she had a boyfriend and you were dating her.
38:50
I was. Not dating her, but she was.
38:52
She was hanging out with me. Yeah.
38:54
So doing stuff, doing stuff I shouldn't have been doing.
38:56
I again, again cleaned up the backyard.
38:59
Backyard is clean. Backyard is clean.
39:01
But yeah, that that that those, those single years, man.
39:07
So, but yeah, so and that and How I Met that Schwan's girl was
39:11
I was doing again. People walk up and meet you, so
39:15
it's kind of crazy that way. So yeah, I don't know if I'd.
39:19
I don't know if I'd do it if I had a stalker.
39:20
I think you would. Probably like it I guess,
39:25
especially. I don't know.
39:26
Maybe not so much now, no. I think it's.
39:29
I think it's. So we could we we'll talk about
39:33
dating later down the road, probably.
39:35
But it's like, you know, you know me.
39:37
I like strong women. Yeah.
39:40
That's one of the things I like the.
39:42
Stalker. Well, not that, no.
39:44
No, I I think obsessive is weird because because to me it's like
39:48
so I've so I've dated people that or I've gone on dates with
39:52
people that just stare at you and like, and I'm like, why are
39:55
you staring at me? Oh, you're so beautiful.
39:57
No, no, no, that's weird. No, but.
39:59
I don't know if you've ever. Gone on those kind of things and
40:02
you're like, and I'm like, OK, this is not going to work out
40:05
because I want, I want my mate or my wife to have their own
40:10
personality. I want them to like their own
40:12
things. I I don't want to be the center
40:14
of their universe. I, I guess that's a better way.
40:17
You and I have you and I both have friends where they're weird
40:20
couples because they're one of them so obsessed with the other
40:23
one that they can't breathe. Like they can't Literally, it's
40:27
like, I think that's creepy. So, so having people stare at
40:31
you or think you're beautiful or any of that.
40:33
I mean, it's it's nice, but it's like you said that Netflix TV
40:37
show you. No thanks.
40:39
You know, I would rather I would rather be I would rather be
40:42
married to someone who calls me out on my shit.
40:45
That's the best part. I want someone to say, oh,
40:46
you're full of shit. Your eyes are brown to the top.
40:49
You're full of shit. That I I'm like, oh, I'm in
40:52
love, right. It's like I shaking to keep you
40:54
in line. Yeah, I ain't taking your.
40:56
Crap, yeah. Regardless of if you're Rick
40:59
Michaels. Right.
41:00
Oh yeah, I hate any of that crap.
41:02
I, you know how I, you know how I feel about, you know how I
41:04
feel about that stuff. It's like I because I always
41:07
tell people, same as you, Michelle, our personalities are
41:10
our personalities. I was this personality long
41:12
before I was ever on the radio. This is who I am.
41:15
So the radio, I guess accentuates that.
41:18
But if I was a psychologist, if I was working at Walmart, I
41:22
would still be the same person. You'd still be the loudest
41:25
employee. I'd be the.
41:27
I would be I'd. Be the guy going hippie, hippie,
41:29
hippie, hippie. Hey, guys, are we gonna do the
41:31
cheer today? Come on, guys.
41:33
Hey, why? Why are you all down?
41:35
Well, because we work at sucky Walmart.
41:37
No, no. Walmart's the best.
41:39
Oh, my God. Walmart.
41:40
Yay. Go rah, rah, rah, team.
41:41
Then they Take Me Out and shoot me.
41:43
You'd make the best Walmart greater.
41:45
Rick Michaels is no longer an employee of Walmart.
41:46
He's been. Shot in the head, left for dead.
41:49
Sorry, I got a little off the rails on these things you did.
41:52
Yeah, because I wanted to circle.
41:53
Back you were talking about how we don't even realize we make
41:56
impacts on our listeners. Go ahead and tell tell us a.
42:00
Story where you feel. Tell us a story where you feel
42:02
like you've made the most impact in radio.
42:04
I mean not necessarily the most impact.
42:06
But it was when I was doing mid days on KFFM again, I think it
42:10
was that second time when I was working there, when you and I
42:13
were working together and a listener called me up and she
42:17
said I've never met her, never talked to her before.
42:21
And she said that I just want to tell you that you make my days
42:26
bearable and to the point where I can keep going.
42:31
And she was going through this horrible divorce with her
42:33
husband. Like, I'm getting chills now
42:35
just thinking about that. And yeah, I.
42:38
Was. Just in shock.
42:40
I mean, one, because we don't think we make that much of an
42:44
impact, especially on a, you know, music based format that
42:49
you can't really converse a lot in between songs.
42:52
So I mean, that really, you know, hits home to you.
42:57
And again, you don't really realize the impact that you have
43:00
on people just day-to-day that you don't even know about.
43:04
I mean, there's probably thousands of Rick Michael
43:07
listeners that you make an impact on every day.
43:10
We, I don't know about that, but I will tell you.
43:11
Some great stuff, Michelle, that you and I did a couple that will
43:14
jog your memory Is Danger Boy in the doghouse raising money for
43:19
that lift van? That was a $6000.
43:21
Yeah, a lift for Lucas. And then of course, our one of
43:25
our favorites of all Super Sam, 11 thousand $11,000 for the
43:29
Children's Merrill Network and Nicole and Jeff and Faith and
43:34
Sammy, one of my favorite stories of all time.
43:37
Now, of course, we've got Saint Jude, we've got Children's
43:39
Miracle network, we've got a ton of, you know, radiothons that
43:43
we've done. But when you can personally,
43:46
like you said, going back to giving a giving away a backstage
43:48
pass, you're at you're an event and you're going to go backstage
43:51
and meet somebody and then there's somebody there going,
43:53
Oh, I really wish I could do that.
43:54
And you turn around and give them your backstage pass.
43:56
Done that a million times. And it's the best feeling
43:58
because you're giving them an experience that you get every
44:01
day. Right which that.
44:03
Kind of ties into the most memorable contest and stunts for
44:07
me. It's not so much the contest or
44:11
the stunts. It's like you said, when we do
44:14
those things like Children's Miracle Network and we get
44:16
matched up with a family and Super Sam and his family.
44:19
And then after you were gone, we had Alex and his mom, Danielle.
44:23
And you get to know these families because you're working
44:26
side to side with them raising this money.
44:28
And they're all incredible families and they have
44:31
incredible kids. And those are probably my most
44:36
favorite memories in radio and also when we would the Special
44:40
Olympics basketball team, which I hate basketball.
44:45
I. Hate it with the passion I suck
44:48
at it and these athletes are legitimately.
44:52
It's obviously right and 18 crushed us like help.
44:56
No, no, don't, don't even don't even get me started on the
44:59
Special Olympics. We but they loved.
45:02
It they loved it when we would come and scrimmage them and they
45:06
would kick our ass for one and they would be talking smack to
45:09
us the entire time, which was hilarious.
45:13
I don't know if we really helped them because again, we sucked.
45:17
So it wasn't much of A competition or even a game for
45:21
them, but I think it lifted their spirits.
45:23
And they had a lot of fun. They enjoyed it.
45:25
I think we got a little. Special award from them for it.
45:27
But more than anything else is like, don't, don't Special
45:32
Olympians. Yeah.
45:33
They're way more athletic than than we are.
45:36
And the A-Team like that was like playing NBA.
45:39
That was like playing Wilt Chamberlain and Shaq and.
45:42
And. And then you started going down
45:44
to the B&C teams and then you're like, oh, now I can take the
45:47
ball. And then they Boo you.
45:49
Yeah. Like, so you've got a special.
45:51
Yeah. Well, yeah, but you.
45:53
So then you're then. You're a.
45:54
You're a, you know, you're an A hole if you do and an A hole if
45:57
you don't. So if you play aggressively, try
45:59
to win this thing, you're an A hole.
46:01
And if you don't, then you're an A hole.
46:02
So yeah, it's, it was an amazing experience.
46:04
So yeah, for me, I, I don't know if you, have you ever done
46:07
donkey basketball? Yes, which is all.
46:09
Yeah, don't. You have to do that.
46:12
Yeah, donkey basketball things. No, no.
46:15
So there's been a lot of, yeah, a lot of these, these wonderful.
46:18
Again, you just don't realize that there are so many ways that
46:21
you can, can make an impact and, and fun thing, fun, fun thing
46:26
for me down in tri-cities is on, on occasions I've been asked to
46:30
talk about being a foster kid at a, at different events.
46:33
And so there's a place down here called my friend's place where
46:36
it has runaway teens and stuff. So they invited me to speak
46:39
about being a foster kid and, and, and my tribulations.
46:42
And then for me, I got to go to the the YWCA in Yakima a few
46:47
years back, and I was right before, Oh, she's the big
46:50
newscaster. Soledad is She's the big famous
46:54
Soledad O'Brien. Yes.
46:56
So I, I was like #1. Intimidated because I got to
46:58
speak before, before actually, no, I came after her, Thank
47:01
goodness she spoke. And then then I got up there.
47:05
I got up there and did some of my stuff.
47:07
So getting to to, you know, speak at the YWCA in Yakima,
47:11
different things like that. And then I got up there and we
47:13
were raising money and, and Nick, our boss in Yakima.
47:16
I couldn't see the tally and I didn't think I was making a
47:19
difference. And he goes, Rick, when you were
47:20
talking about your childhood, that the tally just went like
47:23
this, Yes, of people given money.
47:25
And so I've. I've always been, I've always
47:27
been shocked that that unbeknownst to us, we're able to
47:32
make that kind of contribution. So it's yeah, it's rewarding.
47:35
Yep, definitely. So I.
47:37
Mean we talked about on a different episode when we had to
47:41
live in a car all together. Yes, on a podcast.
47:45
I mean that was that was probably one of my favorite
47:48
ones. It wasn't cold.
47:49
It was a during the winter time and we were in the little
47:53
breezeway of the supermarket, so we were protected.
47:57
But that was fun because listeners just come by all the
48:00
time. The one I did not like that you
48:02
made me do. Remember the crane?
48:05
Yeah, you're going to say the crane.
48:06
That's classic. That was I wanted, I want to do
48:09
that for 20 years, being up in the crane, 200 feet off the
48:11
ground. Micah, again, we've talked about
48:13
how Micah is such a putz and the mayor is, I'm just going to say
48:18
it, the mayor is a putz, Former mayor, former mayor.
48:21
Is a putz because. Oh, he goes.
48:23
I'm afraid of heights. I can't go up there.
48:25
I'm like, I'm like, get your ass.
48:27
Up there, Yeah, get your ass. Up there, Yeah.
48:30
And he's like, no, I got to go get a Jamba Juice and go to the
48:32
gym. Got to take.
48:35
Got to take the girls to the gun show.
48:36
Got to take the girls to the gun show.
48:38
All right, see, first it was this little.
48:41
Box that they would lift us up in, so we'd have to go up
48:46
separately, take shifts or whatever.
48:48
And I remember my shift, it was starting to get windy and they
48:52
were questioning whether they should even hoist me up there.
48:56
And I'm thinking, oh God, I'm going to die in this box.
48:59
It's going to fall from the wind.
49:01
But again, I sucked it up and I did it and and he made a
49:06
difference and he made a difference.
49:08
And, and people don't, and the nice thing about it, people
49:10
don't forget those things because when you run into a lady
49:12
like, oh, I remember when you guys were in a crane, I remember
49:14
you guys were in a car, all these different things.
49:16
I remember when I remember when Cephas went across the stage
49:19
naked during the bull bash, which he did not.
49:21
He was in his underwear, but he had a sombrero, but he did go
49:23
across the stage naked in the bull bash.
49:25
So all these little things that are very memorable and and you
49:28
realize that you make you make a contribution.
49:31
And then the stories you tell like being like, I'm a foster
49:34
kid, you've had a lot of trauma in your life.
49:37
You've had some mom issues, you've had some dad issues.
49:40
You've got a number one, what makes you so relatable is you've
49:42
got kids, you've got 4 kids and different things that you've
49:46
gone through. And so you don't realize at the
49:49
time that when you're telling these stories, you're making the
49:51
impact. But you are right.
49:53
Yeah. I mean, it could just.
49:54
Be us just talking about our daily lives and not realizing
49:58
that that makes a difference to somebody.
50:00
Well, I think when people listen to the radio.
50:03
That they try to find common ground of we have a listener,
50:07
KORDI just met him recently. A couple weeks ago, I was in the
50:09
parking lot of yokes. He was driving by and stopped
50:12
me. He goes, are you Rick?
50:14
And I go, I go, yeah, I'm Rick. And he goes, he goes, I, I
50:18
because we live in, we live in the same neighborhood.
50:20
And I always look for your yellow truck and I see your
50:22
trucks here all the time, but I never see you.
50:25
And I said, oh, well, well, nice to meet you.
50:27
And he goes, man, he goes. We have so much in common.
50:30
You know, he goes, I was a Foster and then he just goes,
50:32
then tells me all these things he has common.
50:33
And then meanwhile you look at him and he's all tatted up and
50:37
he's got a rolled up pack of cigarettes in his, you know,
50:39
like, like the fawns, you know, and and you go, well, I can't
50:43
imagine me having anything in common with him, you know, if I
50:46
just met him normally. And then you realize you have a
50:49
lot, you have a lot in common. He grew up poor, you know, he
50:52
was in the system, different things like that.
50:54
So you, you realize, yeah, you do make, you don't think you do,
50:57
but you can make a real big impact in in the industry.
51:00
Oh, definitely. And there's other contest that
51:05
I, well, it wasn't a contest. It was more a stunt that I did
51:09
not like besides the crane one. The crane one was fine.
51:12
Once I got up there and right, I was fine and I just.
51:16
Kept telling myself. You're doing this for a good
51:18
cause, but one, It was a stunt with my former morning show
51:25
partner, Gunner. OK, we did not have the.
51:28
Budget for a. Stunt boy remember this right?
51:31
Oh God. Oh gosh, I know where this.
51:32
Is going OK so he would try to make me.
51:35
The stunt boy but and I would to tell him no and his way around
51:41
it was he would make these bets with me and somehow he
51:45
discovered that I was deathly afraid of mice.
51:48
I mean not deathly. I don't like that the type.
51:51
Where I literally jump. Up on a chair and start
51:53
screaming. I mean, I just growing up in the
51:56
country, I do not like mice. I can handle snakes, spiders,
52:00
you name it. Mice, not so much.
52:01
So he made this bet with me where if I lost I was going to
52:05
have to sit in a box or something with a mouse for for X
52:08
amount of time. You were there during this you
52:11
not remember was I? No I wasn't.
52:13
I allowed. This yes, yes, you.
52:17
And so I lost, obviously. And so I had to sit in this big
52:22
refrigerator box with this mouse.
52:23
But at the time my dad still had his beekeeper soup.
52:27
And so I wore that. And Gunner was so pissed because
52:31
he's like, that wasn't part of the deal.
52:34
And I'm like, well, you didn't say what I couldn't, couldn't.
52:37
Wear so I. Hated that stunt.
52:40
And then he tried to do another one where I think I was working
52:45
out and losing weight at one of the gyms that sponsored the
52:49
radio station. And I was trying to meet this
52:52
weight loss goal, which first of all was unattainable for like my
52:58
size or whatever. But he bet me that if I didn't
53:02
reach this weight amount that I would have to kiss his bare ass.
53:07
And this is right before he got let go, which I think that in
53:10
itself was an HR issue. And you should have been there
53:13
again during this time. So.
53:16
Those are the things I did not like.
53:18
Well, because he had a crush on you, Basically, no.
53:21
He didn't. He did not have a crush on me.
53:24
I don't know, I'm just. Saying that's it, you know,
53:27
that's kind of an issue, yeah. I mean, Oh yeah, we, we can talk
53:31
later about all the HR stuff, HR violations.
53:36
HR, right? Yeah, HR.
53:38
HR yeah, I think is, is the statute of limitations passed
53:40
now that we can talk about HR issues that we've had through
53:42
the I think the years, three years, three years I've had,
53:45
I've had. A I've had a lot of.
53:47
Things happening. HR violation lot.
53:49
Not me personally. But things have happened to me.
53:52
Where was like, yeah, so we could definitely do another
53:55
episode. A lot of that drama's gone.
53:58
And well, again, we're not live anymore.
54:00
So a lot of the drama's gone away.
54:01
But right, I mean, the morning shows still are.
54:04
So Yep, the more online shows still, yeah, yeah.
54:07
So there's. Still, there's still those
54:08
things, but but you also, like you said, it's a different time.
54:11
You don't treat the the stunt boy thing has gone so far away
54:16
anymore because there was a big lawsuit.
54:19
We for a, we bet in Sacramento, we talked about it earlier or
54:22
somebody died. And so that put a kibosh on
54:25
well, this is after I mean this is well, I know that we're
54:28
dying. From it I think he that's that's
54:31
gunner stuff though. He likes that kind of stuff.
54:33
Yeah, he wanted to be like that. Yeah.
54:37
What? I don't know.
54:39
I don't know if you'd call it controversial.
54:40
I don't know. It's almost like Howard
54:42
Sternish. Shock jockey, right?
54:44
Shock jockey, Right. Exactly.
54:46
How far can how far, how far can we push the envelope right,
54:50
Which you know, again, some of those.
54:52
Pretend stunts. Yeah.
54:56
Yeah. Thankfully we didn't do any of
54:57
those. You could always.
55:00
The funny thing is. We can talk down the road about
55:03
pretend stunts, like a lot of people think this stuff is real.
55:05
So one of the one of the classic pretend stunts in Yakima, or I
55:09
mean in radio is walking naked down Main Street.
55:12
Have you heard that? Have you ever heard the classic
55:14
stunt walking naked down Main Street?
55:16
Yes. Oh, at 8:00 on Monday morning,
55:18
I'm going to walk naked down Main Street.
55:20
And then they bring a dog and the dog's name is Naked, right?
55:24
But I'm walking naked down those are.
55:29
Mainly for like April Fool's jokes and different.
55:31
Things like that, right? I think the one I didn't like
55:34
was. You're going to go on vacation,
55:37
so you pretend that you got suspended.
55:40
Oh God, that's one of the. Oh God, that is one of the.
55:45
Yes, I. I've seen it accomplished well
55:48
in some markets, but most markets don't buy it.
55:52
Most people don't buy it because, oh, what a what a
55:55
gunner and Michelle say this morning that got him fired, you
55:57
know, on suspension for a week and while they're on vacation.
56:00
I some people still believe it. Some.
56:02
I mean, I'm not, I'm not, you know, sorry to pull back the
56:05
curtain, but isn't this kind of what this podcast is all about?
56:07
I mean, yeah, that's the whole point of this podcast.
56:08
And that is? Stuff that happens.
56:11
So right, Yeah. Not everything you hear is you
56:13
know it's Wizard. Of Oz.
56:14
It's it's smoke and mirrors. We don't do that stuff as much
56:17
as we used to because I think that the audiences have changed,
56:20
changed. I think audiences, they don't
56:22
have time for it. Back in the day, they'd fought,
56:25
you know, almost like a almost like a soap opera.
56:27
They'd follow it. Now it's like now you get them
56:30
for, if you're lucky, you get a listener for 20 minutes a day
56:32
and that's it, right? I do remember the one stunt you
56:35
wanted. To try to pull but we weren't
56:37
allowed to. Do you remember this one?
56:39
Which one was it? The stealing.
56:42
The welcome to the. Palm Springs of Yakima sign.
56:45
Oh God, that would have been the best stunt ever.
56:48
Because but, but Gary, the whoever the owner was that
56:52
'cause we were going to at least, yeah, but we were going
56:54
to do a scavenger hunt. So we were we were going to.
56:56
Pay for it. The Yakima sign would disappear.
56:59
Can you imagine the kind of buzz that would have created?
57:02
And then we'd give clues and we were going to give like $5000 to
57:05
anybody if you could locate it. If you follow the clues, think
57:08
about how now I will that you got to say that would have been
57:12
amazing. It would have yes, but, but, and
57:15
and we. Offered to pay for the.
57:16
The sign removal, we offered to store it, the list goes on and
57:19
on. And Gary just was not he he
57:21
thought it was we were making fun of.
57:23
He felt it was a mockery, felt it was a mockery.
57:26
Everybody mocks that sign in this I know but but we.
57:29
We we meant it in the best. That would have been, Yeah, that
57:33
would have been huge. That one would have been epic.
57:35
Yeah, I still. Remember that one?
57:37
So you tried hard, You. Yeah, I tried this to make that
57:41
one happen. Yeah, that.
57:42
Would have been a good. Making making the Yakima sign
57:44
disappear. But there's been a lot of, you
57:46
know, different promotions and different fun things like, you
57:49
know, are you the one O 7 three, you know, Bandit, we're going to
57:53
give you $5000. I mean, all these different
57:55
things that you can do. So right?
57:57
I mean, we did have. Listeners for watershed tickets
58:03
get a tattoo of our station logo that that's a cool one and then.
58:09
One of them. Let us chop her hair off.
58:11
You know, it's nice. So yeah, we in, we in.
58:14
Bakersfield, we had a. Couple good ones in.
58:16
Bakersfield one was ground beef on Groundhog Day where people
58:20
had to dig their hands in to get George Strait tickets.
58:23
So ground beef, they had to do that.
58:25
And then we also did a good one where they where we got 5 dads
58:28
together with Taylor Swift tickets and they had to build
58:30
grills. You know, those little red,
58:32
little red hibachi grills? You get it.
58:34
You know, wherever. Ace Hardware.
58:36
So you get 5 men. And guess what?
58:38
Not nothing is more determined than a man trying to win
58:43
daughter tickets to Taylor. You know, Right.
58:45
Is that not a great stunt? That's a great stunt.
58:48
And so whoever could build the BBQ that fast would win Taylor
58:52
Swift tickets. So what men will do for their
58:55
daughters? It's probably one of the most
58:57
amazing things that you'll ever see in radio.
58:59
I mean, unlimited, They'll do whatever.
59:01
Yeah. Exactly.
59:02
Mm hmm. So.
59:03
Those are good. Yeah, there's some good one.
59:05
Yeah. One of my other favorite memory
59:07
this isn't. A contest or a stunt.
59:09
But was when that magician, J Owen House came to town.
59:12
Oh yeah. You know, the one with the white
59:14
and the orange tiger. And I got to be sawed in half.
59:18
Yes. But on stage, the cool thing
59:20
about that was I got to see how this trick really works, right?
59:24
That was cool. So yeah.
59:26
Yeah. I, I and we had a listener.
59:28
One time her name was Marsha who got to go David Copperfield and
59:32
got to be vanished in the audience and knows how, you
59:35
know, now I know how the stunt works because he got sued for
59:37
it. But but again, and I asked her
59:41
later, so Oh my God, how cool is it?
59:42
And she goes well, then then, you know, they promised they
59:44
they don't tell the secret. So she didn't tell the secret.
59:46
I mean, we know the secret, but but it's it's it's more to see
59:51
it, I guess, if that makes sense.
59:52
And we love, we love those kind of things like the being sodden
59:55
hat trick. It was.
59:56
Super hokey, how it's really done.
59:58
I was like, really? This is it, but it's a skill.
1:00:02
But it's a skill. It's a skill to make it look
1:00:04
real. I mean, I love, I love magic.
1:00:07
I love magic When I see the art of illusion is incredible.
1:00:11
Our good buddy Dave Edel is like you got Dave is really good at
1:00:15
some of those tricks that he does.
1:00:17
And that's how he got the ladies back in the day.
1:00:20
Hey, ladies, let me do a magic trick for you in his little
1:00:24
little vest. It's true.
1:00:27
I don't, you know, Lance. Was a clown.
1:00:28
So I, I mean, it's a little harder.
1:00:29
To be a little harder to be Mr. Giggles and point.
1:00:32
Pull in the ladies. But if you're if you can do
1:00:34
magic in pulling the ladies, but not if you're a clown, you know
1:00:38
it is popular as a clown, so. He is some women.
1:00:41
I love Mr. I love Mr. and Misses Giggles.
1:00:43
They're the best. So, all right, well, we're
1:00:48
almost hitting our. Time slot so that means next
1:00:52
podcast we could talk about our fake names how we came about
1:00:55
them oh fake names are the best yeah we.
1:00:58
I don't want to go overtime. Like we did on our That One
1:01:02
podcast. So no, we won't.
1:01:04
Well, my name's pretty easy and pretty.
1:01:05
Quick, my story on how I got my name.
1:01:07
So that'll take a couple, couple minutes.
1:01:09
Yeah, we'll start off. Podcast, Podcast 6 with that,
1:01:16
all right, radio. Radio names are going to be fun.
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Radio names, I mean. As I always tell people are fake
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radio names. Come on, look.
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At my name. Come on.
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Come on, like it does that not look?
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I I always tell people it's when they ask me about I'm like,
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like, is your name fake? I'm like, look at it well.
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There's no, there's no way Somebody lined up, Rik.
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MIK that well, nobody right when I search for our podcast.
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On Spotify or whatever there are like Rik comes up several other
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podcasts before ours just FY but Michaels that.
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You know, but they're but they're but the crazy thing.
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There are other people in the industry that has my that have
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Co opted by Michaels, but they do it differently.
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I've seen I've. Seen.
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I've seen Michaels. Like MYKALS?
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I've seen it, MIKELS. So anyway.
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All right, well, we'll talk about it next episode.
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Thank you so much for listening to Rick and Matt.
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Michelle Chick, see you next time.