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Patriots Unfiltered 7/31: Day 5 Live Show, First Practice in Pads, Goal Line Work · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered, a special edition Live
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  Speaker 1: from training Camp. I'm Fred Kurz, joined by Paul Parrillo,
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  Speaker 1: Mike do So later Evan Lazarre, and we are high
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  Speaker 1: above the practice feels here at Jillette Stadium. As you
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  Speaker 1: can see, the players are in their conditioning run to
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  Speaker 1: kick off practice. You just heard Bill Belichick's press conference
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  Speaker 1: and today is the first day of pads, so it's
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  Speaker 1: always a big day in training camp.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm hoping to see a couple of different things
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  Speaker 4: that we haven't seen a ton of in recent years,
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  Speaker 4: but we always like the the one on ones with
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  Speaker 4: the offensive defensive lineman, some pass protection, pass rush, but
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  Speaker 4: I'd like to see a little goal line work in
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  Speaker 4: some team settings today. I'm pretty sure we'll get some
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  Speaker 4: live reps in the red zone, but I'd like to
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  Speaker 4: see some running game work in the you know, near
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  Speaker 4: the goal line. Haven't seen a lot of that in
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  Speaker 4: recent years. I'm hoping today we might change to.
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  Speaker 1: So obviously pads means more contact. What are some of
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  Speaker 1: the you know, in the weeds type of things that
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  Speaker 1: we should be looking for today, like jamming off the line,
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  Speaker 1: things like that.
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  Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, those are good things.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I think, as Paul said, I think the
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  Speaker 6: one on ones are always you know, a lot of
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  Speaker 6: fun just to see guys line up one on one.
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  Speaker 6: And you know, Kem White yesterday saying I'm excited to
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  Speaker 6: see what the physicality of the NFL is actually like.
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  Speaker 6: So you've heard plenty of it over the last four days.
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  Speaker 6: If really the first those days of practice are really
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  Speaker 6: a continuation of OTA. So today this is training camp. Now,
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  Speaker 6: this is really when evaluation is going to start. We'll
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  Speaker 6: see how much eleven on eleven, seven on seven, that
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  Speaker 6: kind of stuff you get but like you said, fred
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  Speaker 6: I think.
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  Speaker 5: You know, guys getting pressed on the line.
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  Speaker 6: Can you know, some of the smaller rookies can of
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  Speaker 6: to Mario Douglas, who you know had a pretty strong
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  Speaker 6: day yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: How's he going to do, you know when he goes
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  Speaker 5: up against.
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  Speaker 6: A Jonathan Jones, experienced NFL cornerback who knows how to
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  Speaker 6: you know, get your hand, get his hands on you,
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  Speaker 6: not let you get off the line. So those are
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  Speaker 6: certainly some of the things to watch as well as
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  Speaker 6: just some of the rookies. Yeah, they react to this
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  Speaker 6: first chance at contact, and.
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  Speaker 4: We talk a lot, Freddy about there's no tackling. You
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  Speaker 4: don't really see a lot of guys get tackled to
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  Speaker 4: the ground during training camp, but you will see the
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  Speaker 4: lineman creating holes in the running game. And you want
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  Speaker 4: to see you know, last year was pretty apparent as
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  Speaker 4: soon as those pads went on when they were working
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  Speaker 4: on the zone stuff and it just wasn't there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: there was you know, penetration on the coming in off
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  Speaker 4: the edges and they really never got anything going. So,
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  Speaker 4: I mean those are some small things to keep an
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  Speaker 4: eye on. You know, is there more running room the
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  Speaker 4: lineman creating any kind of movement on the defensive front.
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  Speaker 4: And then the stuff that Mike talked about to me
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  Speaker 4: is at the top of the list. I want to
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  Speaker 4: see how the receivers are dealing with some press coverage
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  Speaker 4: and if it looks the same when you know, when
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  Speaker 4: they're running their round and you know.
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  Speaker 1: You might you know, pressure around the quarterback might be real,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like so it's it's today.
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  Speaker 1: If there's pressure around the quarterback, it's earned, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because everybody's you know, so there's a likelihood that they
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  Speaker 1: might blow plays dead. Quicker, I would.
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  Speaker 6: Think, certainly something to watch because I think, you know,
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  Speaker 6: although the offense had a better day yesterday, maybe primarily
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  Speaker 6: fueled by the second team's performance, you know, defenses has
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  Speaker 6: carried the day through the first four non padded practices,
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  Speaker 6: all in the red zone.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of factors in the defenses.
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  Speaker 6: Favor in terms of their experience, a bunch of veterans
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  Speaker 6: who've all played together for a while, and offense has
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  Speaker 6: a new offensive coordinator. Not to mention, you're in the
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  Speaker 6: red zone where there's just so much tight space it's
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  Speaker 6: it's hard to really do a lot offensively.
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  Speaker 5: You've got to be right on top of things.
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  Speaker 6: So a little bit more chance now for the defense
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  Speaker 6: to I think, I think maybe even take more control.
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  Speaker 6: I just I want to see how things look on
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  Speaker 6: the right side of the offensive line. I think that's
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  Speaker 6: a spot that you've already seen some juggling. It seems
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  Speaker 6: like they have some questions again. Four days into camp,
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  Speaker 6: you got questions on the right side of your line.
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  Speaker 1: Not a great situation to have. We're just looking at
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  Speaker 1: Matt Judah. It doesn't look like he's got shoulder pads
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  Speaker 1: on and definitely not pants, so he's gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: limited participant once again here in practice. As we watch
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  Speaker 1: them stretch out, they're going into their group drills right now.
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  Speaker 1: Any notable absences, I know you guys have been diligently
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  Speaker 1: taking attendance.
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  Speaker 6: Well, Kaishan Boudi is back after just missing yesterday, so
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  Speaker 6: you know, good for a rookie anytime you miss time
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  Speaker 6: and in training camp you're getting way behind, so good
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  Speaker 6: to have him back out. And I think a couple
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  Speaker 6: just new ones we're still trying to confirm. But Terrez
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  Speaker 6: Hall fifty nine, haven't spotted him yet, and Anthony Jennings
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  Speaker 6: number thirty.
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  Speaker 1: Three were two could be here.
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  Speaker 4: We we'll probably get a little bit Jake Andrews because
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  Speaker 4: I'm still missing him from yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah he's out too, he's out.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, same as yesterday was his first one along
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  Speaker 5: with Booty.
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  Speaker 7: I got thirty three.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty three. Okay, that's a good one.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I just I've been talking a lot about
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  Speaker 6: how Finn the the depth is at outside linebacker, and
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  Speaker 6: you've seen Anthony Jennings get you know, plenty of opportunities
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  Speaker 6: here with Matthew Judon kind of slowly working his way in.
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  Speaker 6: So Jennings is a guy today that you know you
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  Speaker 6: really want to look at. I want to look at
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  Speaker 6: Ronnie Perkins. I mean, it's just there's not a lot
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  Speaker 6: of depth. You really have four guys and it's Uce
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  Speaker 6: and Jude on at the top is the stand up
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  Speaker 6: outside linebackers.
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  Speaker 5: We know those guys can play, but.
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  Speaker 6: If an injury were to befall one of them, I
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  Speaker 6: think that the drop off is pretty quick, and I
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  Speaker 6: think they'd be kind of scrambling a little bit. We'll
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  Speaker 6: say the ability of Bentley and to Vibe play a
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  Speaker 6: little bit on the edge that that would help maybe
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  Speaker 6: mitigate that risk a little bit, but I don't love
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  Speaker 6: the depth that they have.
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  Speaker 5: And I think it Jude On injury would really be
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  Speaker 5: a time Montgomery. Still not Here's still no time Montgomery.
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  Speaker 5: So that'll be three straight practices for him.
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, that's uh, you know, I saw the collision and
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  Speaker 1: it didn't look like it was you know, a twisted ankle.
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  Speaker 1: He got up slow, kind of was hobbling a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: but not sure what the injury is.
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  Speaker 4: So it's no, it's hard rustrate and you don't want
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  Speaker 4: to speculate, you know. But he did kind of like
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  Speaker 4: lunch back awkwardly, so you hope it's nothing, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and I know there was a collision, so
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  Speaker 4: like to say that it's non.
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  Speaker 1: Contact, yeah, but I was definitely contact.
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  Speaker 4: But I think there may have been a non contact injury,
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  Speaker 4: if that makes any sense. I think whatever happened happened
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  Speaker 4: as he tried to lunch backward and then they ended
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  Speaker 4: up getting tangled up. But uh, yeah, I mean when
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  Speaker 4: Bill said day to day right away, I sort of
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  Speaker 4: had a bad feeling, you know, the fact that he
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  Speaker 4: even acknowledged it, you know.
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  Speaker 6: Right, yeah, all right, Well, well maybe I mean it
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  Speaker 6: was kind of interesting yesterday. We did not watch practice
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  Speaker 6: with Paul, so I kind of sometimes when this happens. Paul,
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  Speaker 6: as much as I enjoy watching practice with you, we.
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  Speaker 4: Did the podcast to go.
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  Speaker 5: We did, I know, we got a little bit of page.
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  Speaker 6: We did, except I thought I thought, I thought that
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  Speaker 6: that they hit that the rookie kicker hit all of them.
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  Speaker 6: But you, you were down there, you were well, that's
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  Speaker 6: what I realized about you, Paul. You're You're really good
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  Speaker 6: with the details, and sometimes I think myself I zone
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  Speaker 6: out on some of the special team stuff.
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  Speaker 5: But you're always right there because you're always so into
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  Speaker 5: special teams.
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  Speaker 4: So you're a bad guy.
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  Speaker 1: You come with a smile, giving you a compliment, smiling assassin.
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  Speaker 7: Paul and I get all the flak for being negative
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  Speaker 7: and the big smile on.
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  Speaker 6: Let's just say, the current record hold record holder for
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  Speaker 6: the most negative person to ever go on the Six
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  Speaker 6: Ring podcast is this guy right here.
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  Speaker 4: Anybody but that Dessaults.
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  Speaker 6: Even Andy was like, God, he seems down on the team.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know what I said that to get that.
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  Speaker 1: But yesterday was a better day for the offense.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
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  Speaker 6: We could talk about a little bit because you know,
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  Speaker 6: I thought it was good, but I mean, I don't know,
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  Speaker 6: I feel like we all wanted the narrative to be that, oh,
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  Speaker 6: they're starting, but you know, I still it was okay,
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  Speaker 6: and there was some balance to what I thought was
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  Speaker 6: the offense punched back a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's the phrase that that Evan used when
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  Speaker 4: we were doing our podcast, and that's what we were
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  Speaker 4: talking about down in the know it all tent where
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  Speaker 4: you know, you guys were too good to do yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: You know, just there was signs of life and I
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  Speaker 4: thought that there were a couple of really really like
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  Speaker 4: there was nothing overly impressive from a physical standpoint to
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  Speaker 4: those two plays that we talked about a lot with
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  Speaker 4: Mac Jones in the in the offense, but I thought
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  Speaker 4: the execution, the attention to detail was on point. And
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  Speaker 4: you know, they talked. I thought Zappi talked after practice
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  Speaker 4: and he sort of told you that these are the
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  Speaker 4: things that we've been building toward for you know that
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  Speaker 4: the first three days. So you want to see that
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  Speaker 4: kind of stuff. You want to see them have success.
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  Speaker 4: I thought last year, last summer, it was just a
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  Speaker 4: beatdown mentally and you could sense the frustration. We heard
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  Speaker 4: the frustration at times when they talked about it. It
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  Speaker 4: bothered them that they didn't have a lot of periods
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  Speaker 4: of success yesterday. And you're right, it wasn't perfect. I
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  Speaker 4: mean there were you know, Zappi finishes his series with
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  Speaker 4: a pick, Mac nearly had one on his last play.
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  Speaker 4: There were several times where the quarterbacks weren't able to
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  Speaker 4: find anybody open and had to scramble around. There were
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  Speaker 4: several other times where they would have been just sacks anyway.
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  Speaker 4: So it wasn't perfect. The defense was still pretty good yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: but I just thought there were times where the offense
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  Speaker 4: had to have felt better about itself.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a conversation Evan and I had as
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  Speaker 6: practice was wrapping up, because as much as the Patriots,
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  Speaker 6: they love to start in the red zone and that's
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  Speaker 6: the hardest place. But you know, we're saying, don't they
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  Speaker 6: need to build some confidence though, Like don't you need
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  Speaker 6: to just like have let them execute a couple plays
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  Speaker 6: so that they start to build things. And you know,
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  Speaker 6: it felt like early on in that session yesterday they
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  Speaker 6: pulled back there in the middle.
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  Speaker 1: Of field a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe that's what they were doing. It seemed like that's
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  Speaker 5: when they found their stride.
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  Speaker 6: But I I just I wonder because even some of
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  Speaker 6: the great throws I thought from yesterday that were kind
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  Speaker 6: of garnering praise, I wondered if they might actually have
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  Speaker 6: been sacks. Some of them were you know, running around.
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  Speaker 6: I know, the mac one to GASICKI we both kind
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  Speaker 6: of felt that that was definitely blown dead. Yeah, Bill
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  Speaker 6: blew the whistle before that throw was made.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely, So I.
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  Speaker 6: Just I'm a little bit interested to see if we're
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  Speaker 6: going to see some downfield throws from Maca. We saw
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  Speaker 6: those last years, but as bad as last training camp was,
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  Speaker 6: there was occasionally he'd hit algalore down the field.
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  Speaker 5: So now in the this was this was funny tell us.
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  Speaker 4: We started charting whether or not Bill would have blown
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  Speaker 4: the play dead if Zappy was the quarterback right.
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  Speaker 1: The quick whistle.
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  Speaker 4: It was a quick whistle, quick whistle.
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  Speaker 5: But I mean, in that reguard, you go over there,
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  Speaker 5: in that regard, I.
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  Speaker 6: Mean, you know, all the parsing we've kind of done
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  Speaker 6: on the throws yesterday, I mean, Zappy did have a
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  Speaker 6: good day yesterday, and I mean you can't ignore a
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  Speaker 6: couple downfield throws that were completed. So you haven't seen
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  Speaker 6: those out of Mac yet though, and I'd like to
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  Speaker 6: see those out of them.
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  Speaker 5: I think they need to see those out of them.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the most encouraging thing offensively for me
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  Speaker 7: is that I'm starting to see the blueprint for Bill
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  Speaker 7: O'Brien and what exactly they're gonna do schematically, and I
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  Speaker 7: like what I'm what I'm seeing. So maybe the results
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  Speaker 7: haven't been consistently there yet, but I think what they're
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  Speaker 7: doing that's gonna eventually translate come September. I can see
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  Speaker 7: the foundation being built to something that's gonna be productive.
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  Speaker 7: So even if it's one two steps forward one step back,
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  Speaker 7: I think it's the best way to describe yesterday. To
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  Speaker 7: an extent, it still feels like, Okay, we can see
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  Speaker 7: that they're going to incorporate some under center play action.
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  Speaker 7: They're probably gonna incorporate some spacing things and some RPO
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  Speaker 7: concepts and empty formations and different things that Bill Brian's
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  Speaker 7: kind of always done, and especially since he was in
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  Speaker 7: the college game in the last couple of years, but
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  Speaker 7: are encouraging things, I think for the quarterbacks in particular,
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  Speaker 7: and mainly Mac. I think it really fits what those
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  Speaker 7: guys do well, on top of just the fact that
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  Speaker 7: I like it from a schematic standpoint and it's fun
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  Speaker 7: to break down. So yeah, I think it's It's that
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  Speaker 7: for me, is that they're they're headed in the right direction,
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  Speaker 7: and they have a plan of what they're trying to install.
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  Speaker 7: And then once we get into real padded practices now
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  Speaker 7: and in a couple of weeks, when they get out
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  Speaker 7: to joint practices and not going up against the same
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  Speaker 7: defense every single day, how did the results look at
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  Speaker 7: that point, because now we're still in the install phase
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  Speaker 7: of training camp.
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  Speaker 1: Are you saying they didn't have a plan last year?
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  Speaker 7: I'm saying that this year. And we were talking about
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  Speaker 7: this yesterday Deuce where they had a drill going on
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  Speaker 7: on the right side, on the right field, and it
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  Speaker 7: was Bill O'Brien with the quarterbacks and the running backs
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  Speaker 7: and in vinniesonce Aria was with them too, and you
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  Speaker 7: could see they were working on a run drill with
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  Speaker 7: the quarterbacks or handing off to the running backs, and
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  Speaker 7: that was I could see the drill, how it would
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  Speaker 7: translate to film and how it would translate on a
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  Speaker 7: game field and more and more. You just see that
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  Speaker 7: with this coaching staff, you can see the drills translating
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  Speaker 7: to the games and you see the method to the madness,
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  Speaker 7: and I think that that should be as encouraging as anything.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm curious to Evan just to see the
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  Speaker 6: run game today and what you know, if they do go.
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  Speaker 5: Goal line, what does their goal line run.
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  Speaker 1: Package look like.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, they don't have a fullback anymore. We haven't
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  Speaker 6: really seen much of the run game for obvious reasons,
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  Speaker 6: but curious about that. One of the thing too I
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  Speaker 6: wanted to add is I just thought the pace, the
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  Speaker 6: kind of tempo was kind of good yesterday. With the offense,
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  Speaker 6: it just it seemed like, especially when they were starting
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  Speaker 6: on the middle of the field, seem like they were
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  Speaker 6: on the same page. They were executing things you didn't
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  Speaker 6: see last year.
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  Speaker 5: They ran.
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  Speaker 4: They would run five plays and sort of get down
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  Speaker 4: to the red zone and then it was all scripted.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it would stop and I think it was two
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  Speaker 1: minute offense or at least four minute offense.
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  Speaker 7: So actually the drill that they're doing right now is
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  Speaker 7: the exact same drill I was just talking about that
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  Speaker 7: they were doing yesterday, and you can see Vinnie and Serri.
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  Speaker 7: I think that's him with the with the play she
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  Speaker 7: kind of in his hand, and when the running back
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  Speaker 7: gets the ball, he's stepping in a certain direction to
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  Speaker 7: kind of give the running back a read right of
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  Speaker 7: if this guy, if the defender goes here, where you
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  Speaker 7: suppose to cut off of it. And those are the
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  Speaker 7: types of things that they do in these types of
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  Speaker 7: you know, jog throughs or walk throughs that eventually you
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  Speaker 7: can see how this is teaching people where to go
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  Speaker 7: and what to do, and it's it's beneficial to the players.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Another example of that was right in front of us
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  Speaker 4: in the in the near field here on the left side,
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  Speaker 4: they were doing the combo routes on the goal line
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  Speaker 4: with slot guys going out, you know, the outside guys
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  Speaker 4: coming in looking to create rubs. And I thought you
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  Speaker 4: saw a variation of that kind of a concept on
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  Speaker 4: the the Remondre Stevenson little swing for a touchdown where
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: Hunter Henry is out on the outside really just creating
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: a wall. There was nobody out there on on Stevenson
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: because there was too much. They couldn't the linebacker couldn't
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: get through the wash. And you and you can't. You
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: can't get out there. So those are the kinds of
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: things that's what they're looking to create, you know, put
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: put guys in tough situations. You're not looking you got to.
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: I know a lot of people are like, well that's
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: a that's a pick, and yeah they are. But if
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: you don't practice it, it's gonna get called every time.
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: You need to work on the timing of those kinds
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: of things. Make sure it's done in the right spot
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: on the field, inside that one yard barrier, and make
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: sure you're not making it blatantly obviously, like you can't
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: just go out and say, hey, we really need this play.
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: We got to go out and set a pick, you know,
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: so juju can get in the clear.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: If you're not practicing it over and over and over again,
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: the timing's never going to be there.
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: You saw that.
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: I thought over here in the walkthrough, and then on
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: the right side, why when they executed it, and it's
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: just a walk in touchdown for reminder.
• 15:31
  Speaker 7: Right, And I think that's where I'm coming from with
• 15:34
  Speaker 7: it'll get there right. They're practicing these things and you
• 15:37
  Speaker 7: can see how these things are going to be effective
• 15:39
  Speaker 7: for them, and once they get the timing down, and
• 15:41
  Speaker 7: once they call it against the defense at the right
• 15:44
  Speaker 7: time and against certain opponents, they'll find out what their
• 15:47
  Speaker 7: rules are and how they switch things and things like
• 15:50
  Speaker 7: that in those types of situations, and they'll call plays
• 15:53
  Speaker 7: that counteract that. Right now, they're not calling plays against
• 15:56
  Speaker 7: their own defense to get one up on the defense.
• 15:58
  Speaker 7: They're just running plays in their playbook. Eventually, you know,
• 16:02
  Speaker 7: Bill O'Brien will know the opponent's tendencies and he'll know
• 16:05
  Speaker 7: how they defend those types of different different schemes and
• 16:08
  Speaker 7: things like that, and they'll have answers to it, hopefully.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's.
• 16:12
  Speaker 7: When the results will come a little bit more.
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: I thought an interesting little tidbit from Boston Sports Journals
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: new Mike Giardi.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Congratulations Mike, a new.
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: Gig, But he wrote, spoke with some people around the league,
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: and you know, not that we need to reflect upon
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: last year's offense, but you know they were high on
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: Bill O'Brien, and you know, just said to your point, Evan,
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: that last year, when you kind of threw something they
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: weren't prepared for, they couldn't really counter punch off of it,
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: which you know that's really probably not all that surprising
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: considering you know, a new offensive coordinator been on the
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: defensive side of the ball. All of a sudden, Get
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: gets a new twist thrown at him and you know,
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: didn't quite know how to counter it.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: All right, some of the offensive guys running over to
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: the field to join quarterbacks and skill position players.
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: Do you got to ease into the hitting today or
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: is it? I hope not?
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Now you think they'll go right into goal line.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: I don't think they'll go right into it, but I
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: would like to see, you know, at least the one
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: on one stuff that we always see and some some
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: running game work at some point, but you know we'll
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: see so hard still sort of in the the warm
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: up face, yeah, the position right, Yeah, he was here yesterday.
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, ye had a baby. Yeah, nice pick little girl.
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: And certainly, uh, you know, after the first four days
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: were pretty crazy, yesterday was packed, but a little bit
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: more mellow today with the Monday morning practice here with
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: the stand still still still pretty good turnout though not
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: I haven't opened the ramps up.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: But have we heard anything on Lawrence guy, like, you know,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: not since he talked after the first thing get resolved
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: or it.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: Just said he's here, and yeah, he's a patriot. That's
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: he wouldn't really get into any of the specifics, but yeah,
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: I mean I would say that those two situations, Lawrence Guy,
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Matthew Judah like they I would just say they're not
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: like major like headline grabbing things with their things to
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: keep an eye.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: And then of course the Jack Jones situation is ongoing.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: He's out there but really not running with the ones.
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: So yeah, yesterday he got a little bit of run
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: with the Ones for the first time in camp, so
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: it wasn't uh, he hasn't been totally buried.
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: But yeah, I know trees Hall is interesting.
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, now I saw somebody I think it might have
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: been Reese said he was limited maybe yesterday.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: Okay, I hadn't noticed anything.
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: But so I can't speculate them.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he seems like a h a guy
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: that just can't really again and talk about another guy.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Who can't beat the Yeah, I mean if injury.
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: But if it's just an injury thing, then then I
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: won't speculate. But if they had to create a roster
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: spot for a certain running back that they might have
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: had visiting here a couple of days ago, if trees
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: Hall would be on the shortlist of guys that might
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: be considered a person to free up, said.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Roster spot Right. Chris Price reported that sources say that
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Elliott's still in the area.
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: Well he's at the dinner another night.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Well I know that, but no, but as of this morning,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: he was still around.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so would you make anything out of this still
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: in town yesterday?
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: That was the report.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: But to you a point like, yeah, you go out
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: to dinner Saturday night, that was supposedly the day that
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: you met with the team where your flight leave Sunday morning.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: If the report is accurate and he was still in
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: town all day Sunday, Yeah, I mean I like, I
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: like Evans's theory, like when you all of a sudden
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: there's like a random guy not out there and he's
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: not necessarily no disrespected her as all, but not considered
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: you know, a frontline player, right.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: You always sort of wonder if you put two and
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: two together. Yeah, anybody see anybody that looks like Ezekiel
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Elliott out that's a negative.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: He would have his shirt rolled up to his boobies. Yeah, yeah,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I think it'd be fun.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, he would probably be over there running to
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: the It.
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: Just seems like one of the shoes has to fall,
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: like Dalvin Cook's got a sign with the Jets or
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: you know, something's got to happen, and then I feel
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: like all those those guys will will.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: That whole running back situation now is crazy.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Mike Greese was on the radio saying that, you know,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, he thinks he doesn't know was looking for
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: what he was making at Minnesota, which is a little
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: over ten million a Year's yeah.
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: That's not happening.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't think you're going to get him for
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: like the veteran minimum, let's put it that way.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, But but you know, I'd be more
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: than happy to give him six million.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, they I don't think they would. Yeah,
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: but I would, And I wouldn't disagree.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, except for I don't really care about running backs.
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: I'd be wary. How can six millions?
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: Can you guys expand on me?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Though?
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: I I didn't really do a deep, deep dive on
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: the down of Ezekiah Elliot, you know.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: But what what what really was? What happened?
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: I mean, he's just doesn't have the juice.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Every year his numbers went down from his rookie year.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: He never you know, and they just went steadily down
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: and then Pollard came in and took whatever snaps he
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: had left away, and he was just a backup. You know.
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: His explosiveness has has taken a downturn. He was never
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: a home run hitter, but he always had that that
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: good initial burst to get through the line of scrimmage.
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: And he it does not look the same, especially if
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: you ask him to to run off tackle or try.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: To bounce it out.
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: Can't get it. So he's got to be a guy
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: that you're coming to downhill. You want to run him
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: short yardage situations, things like that. I think he can
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: still be effective, but he's not a lead back anymore.
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: That can that can do at all?
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: And can he He can catch the ball a little bit, you.
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: Can pass protect for real.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: He's a really good in the in the passing game.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: I agree with that.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: He's a good, good receiver and a good blocker.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, he'd be fine here, he'd be fine as
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: you know the remandres backup.
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yep.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: I continue to be a little bit intrigued by Jalen Hurd.
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: I mean, he had that nice catch yesterday. I just
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: I think he moves well, and it stands out to
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: me amongst this group of wide receivers that aren't you know,
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: the most nimble of foot, not to say that he
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: just looks athletic to me, and he's got some good size.
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: I'd love to just see him continue to make some
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: plays and you know, see him get a chance with
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: the top offense.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: But a little bit of intrigued for me with him
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: just letting everyone know. In a minute or so, we're
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: gonna have to take our cameras down per rules, but
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: we will stay with you with our voices and we'll
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: tell you everything that we see going on here at practice,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: but we will have to turn the cameras off. You
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: can email the show web radio at Patriots dot com
• 22:48
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• 22:50
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• 22:55
  Speaker 1: with us during the practice. Let's see, we have emails
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: coming in.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: With the tablet today.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: You're going, you know, Microsoft, trying to make it work.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Let's let's see. This is Kyle Kyle Kyley like Kyle
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: from Pembroke with the Mario Douglas popping off and Isaiah
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Bolden playing with the two's what o the late round
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: or free agent rookies do you think will make an
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: impact now that the pads are on.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean those are those are kind of the two.
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: Otherwise it's said, I'd say it's generally been pretty quiet.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: I say, you see a Mapoo got a little bit
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: of a little bit.
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: Of time and and I guess you'd call it a
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: two minute defense playing in the middle kind of in
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: a linebacker role, like like Evan likes.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: Big day for key On White today.
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: You know, just the same thing with offensive lineman though
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: it's tough with you know, Jake Andrews has been out
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: City South has been kind of buried on the depth
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: chart and kind of waiting for Mafia. See if you
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: get it's more of a more of a shot at
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: a right right guard.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: But really it's been Bill Murray.
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Mafi's the one. I agree that no offense to
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: Bill Murray, but I would like to see one of
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: the guys that you invested in in the middle rounds
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: there in the draft unseen Bill Murray for that top
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: Mike on when who replacement right guard spot right now?
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: I just you would like to think that Mafi or
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: even I know that they've worked Cities sound mostly out
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: at at tackle, but one of those two guys you
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: would like to see eventually overtake Bill Murray in an
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: ideal world.
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: I mean, Bill Belichick loves himson Bill Murray every time.
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: I think that might be the most glowing description. And
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: he gave him yesterday. Have just how hard he works,
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: I mean blocked a bunch of kicks. I mean, he's
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: just one of those total Belichick guys.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I know, team player, team player. So as you see,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: video has to go down right now, the offense is
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: with the defense to are left and right, So in
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: our left it's it's more the starting defense against the
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: H twos and threes offense, and then to our right
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: is the the opposite.
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: This is interesting though. Mac Jones is over here on
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: the left side, yeah, and Zappi is over there on
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: the right side with the starting offensive line.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: That's weird.
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: But Mac is working with some of the starting receivers
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: on the left side in a in a shell drill
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: and it's still on like a seven seven on seven
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: type situation.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Yes, three really three separate things going on right now?
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: Did that be do anything yesterday? You think that garners
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: him more of a more of a look or more
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: of an opportunity.
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: I don't know if you'd do that based off of
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: one day.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with Evan.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: I think he did play well yesterday, But I think
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: this was probably.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the fact that Mac is with the starting receivers,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: that that that's more important.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: I think, Well, I just think that's the way they
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: have it set up. I think this is you know,
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: I think this was a plan. I don't think there
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: was about any you know, any evaluation kind of stuff.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: But I mean, I don't know. It's not like I
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: know for sure.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: But you know, you want your starting quarterback where your
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: starting receivers.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: He's with receivers, period, and Zappi's doing stuff with the
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: running game and mc sorley's doing stuff with the running
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: game against uh, you know, secondary players. There's a lot
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: of team meetings on these screens.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: Have you noticed that.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're reading those. Yeah, there's no deception.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: The defense is doing a good job of playing it, honest.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: Right, it's the same player three times in a row.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I mean they're not being blocked.
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: So they still couldn't get a hand on Pop Douglas
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: till he was about ten yards.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: Are you kidding me? On the first place?
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Seven guys.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: I didn't touch them though, didn't even tag them.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: He's shifting, he's shifted.
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: He didn't get a hand on.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, Duce, I'm with you.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't get a hand on that guy either.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: He's gone.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Look at him, he's gone.
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: They got a head on.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: I think he doesn't have that deception. So I did
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: notice on the far field with Zappy a couple of
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: decent holes popped open. I don't know if you would
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: call this a nine on seven. I mean I can't
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: really see all the personnel over there.
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's essentially a nine on seven. They're working ones
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: versus two's nine on seven style. It is interesting, though,
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: that Trent Brown went down to the conditioning field, as
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: did Matthew Judon, so neither one of those guys.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: I noticed that Riley Reef is that left tackle?
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah, no, Trent, You've.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Barely got a right tackle.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: It's just sicky.
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: If I had called this like fully keep im track,
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: I would agree.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I'm just looking as.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: Looking at some stuff. I'm going to put him in
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame now because Pop Douglas. I'll tell you,
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: if I had any idea that all you had to
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: do was be with the ones to be established as
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: an all pro, that's that's an impressive.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: I had him out for seventeen catches.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: You guys really know, I just directed at YouTube. I
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: think YouTube been very balanced some of them with some
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: of the reactions that I've heard on you know, other
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: than Pop Douglas, who clearly is in line to catch
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: one hundred and seventeen passes this shit.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Like that's why they called Paul the dream killer. He's
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: just a dream killer.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: I've been impressed, but like, my god, like, can we
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: let him do something like in like some games before
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: we annoint them like Stanley Morgan.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Morgan wasn't as quick as he is.
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: Oh god, you're so Stanley Morgan was more of a burner.
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: I would say, more quick guy.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: He'd be a great complimenting on my thing. Could work
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: well together underneath, underneath quick guy. Kon Drew Condrew.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: Now he's he's, he's, he's he's doing a good job.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: He's doing a good job.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: We'll see.
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: We were laughing today walking out seeing like Pats come
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: on all of a sudden, I would agree.
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: He's doing well box screen right there, he's doing.
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: A good job.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: I would agree one thousand percent with that.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: This is me being serious.
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: I think you would do SNI are on the same
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: page here that, and I'm with you. It's about it's
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: about him making the roster right now. We're not talking
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: about him. We're not talking about him actually contributing in games.
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: We're talking about him just being the fifth receiver on
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: the rock.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: Exactly long way to go. But if I had to
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: say right now, he's a lock based on what he's
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: been doing every day, not performance wise, but with whom,
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: with whom.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: Whom, whom?
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Oh they faked him, but.
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: They've been they've been doing that a little bit more.
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: They it's like screen screen, screen, fake.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: Stupid defense, trying to jump everything and keep them defense.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: They they will.
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: They hit a siki on it a couple of days ago,
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: but this time the defense new is coming.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, big day here at Gillette other than training camp.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: We have Beyonce tomorrow night.
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's going to be here, is going to be
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: in Nightmare.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: So they've got the stage all set up on the
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: game field.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: See now I'll just tell you Douglas did a really
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: good job on that play blocking little stock block on.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: I can't see who it was, but the defender had
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: a hard time getting away from him.
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: Pretty good amount of zone running going on with this starting.
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: Do you hit it? Like the depression in his voice?
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Zone running.
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: If I don't see a guard pole soon, I'm gonna
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: lose my mind exactly what I was thinking.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: In fairness, there's a pretty good amount of zone running from.
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: Outside phone, some splits, some power. I just see a
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: guard pole, please. I know they'll be multiple, but they've
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: leaned towards this. The zone stuff. I think a little
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: bit more from what we've seen, just not much, I'll
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: give you it is now.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Last year, when that play would run, they'd be a
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: team meeting in.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: The right field, and that was what was weird too.
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: It's just like the reps last year were so strange
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: where it was, you know, like now it's like and
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: says I, they work on something and they changed a
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: little bit, they build off of it, like it's just
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: like it felt like they would just sit there and
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: run wide zone right six times, wide zone left six times,
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: and then they were done, Like it was.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: It's just bizarre, all right.
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: The Mac go over there, now, Max over there, I think, yeah.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I verse two's elevens.
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: I will say this though, Connor McDermott looked looked pretty
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: solid in that drill. He's he was at right tackle, correct, Yeah, Yeah,
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: he's looked pretty good. I would say to start here. Definitely,
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: they're the best guy that they've had out there at
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: right tackle, which I don't know how much that really means.
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think I'd love to get Calvin Anderson back,
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: you know, I wonder what his deal is almost. Yeah,
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: so out yesterday like our s V or something mono nucleosis.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I'm there.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: I don't know how I how did I get How
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: did I get here?
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: You may be asking yourself, how did I get here? Well?
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: We are talking heads, that's.
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: Right, that's true.
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: Good friend needs like four eyes for this.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, three wings, three ring circus.
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that that SICKI rep though, went yesterday when Mac
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: threw that one, Paul. I don't know if the if
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: the talking Heads caught that one or sorry the no
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: it all's down below, but then just walked Cold Strange.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: Back like roller we did. We didn't catch that. Not
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: a great sign.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Does Cold Strange look like he's put on any good weight.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I think a little bit, yeah, because he needed to right.
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, his upper body to me looks a little bit yeah,
• 32:54
  Speaker 7: a little bit thicker. I'm not sure about that.
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: He still is more of an athletic build than a
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: yeah kind of they're a fatty offensive lineman.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: That's they're fat, but you know, it's just that big thing.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: But they got the belly usually.
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: I just really hope that all this zone stuff is
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: not strictly because it fits him the best.
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: Right kind of choice draft.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: You got some sort of nickel package over here. I
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: got a lot of defensive backs out there. Jack Jones
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: part of that group.
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Mac Wilson off the edge.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Holds it by Jalen Hurt.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: I liked it a little bit.
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: Jack It a little bit of hesitation on on that.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Throw is a drop by Juju.
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's seemed like Juju kind of stopped and there's
• 33:44
  Speaker 7: a little bit of hesitation there.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Hands.
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: But that that the play action worked for what it's worth.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: And just to clarify on that, there's a lot of
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: mixing and matching in and out. Like Gonzalas was not
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: on that play and he's pretty much been with that
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: group all you know, all five days so far. So
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: I don't want to say that, Oh Jack Jones, maybe
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: they got some good news on him.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: I don't think that's accurate.
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so this is this is an interesting front with
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: Keon White and Barmore at the ends and Gotcha on
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: the nose, and then with Board on the middle and
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: Tavai and Jennings nothing nothing there for them. I just
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: watching the defense and that's as I want to do.
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it looks like the defense on the right field's
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: going off cards, I'm assuming so is the defense over here.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Bill is on to our left. He's with the McSorley group.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, with the first the first team dye, which it is.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: It is interesting watching though, just without mccordy, that they
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: really do just kind of rotate those safeties through and
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: everybody's kind of playing everywhere.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: So it's it's, uh, you know.
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: I don't really buy into like, oh, well, now we're
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: even more predictable, just because Devin mccorty was really good.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to say that.
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: You know, the predictability of Devin McCarty being in center
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: field could could really be a bad thing. But they
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: do seem comfortable kind of spinning the dial with those guys,
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: so you know, maybe it we'll give him a little
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: bit of a advantage. At times you're not quite sure
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: who's going to be dropping.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Out coming forward. It seems like this is like the prelude.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the pace is definitely a little slow, but hopefully
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: it's ramping up to something soon.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Because if it doesn't, what do we were in Pats for?
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: We were right, We need to try to make us hot.
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: The Yates of Hell remains unoccupied.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: To work that in.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's good.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Can't let a day go by. Nice cut, remandra Ken, har.
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: He looks.
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: He looks surprisingly quicker to me. Didn't seem quite as uh.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I think he just probably drops some weight.
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: That was an outside zone rep, though, and that's probably
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: one of the better outside zone reps i've seen them
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: have practice. Bent it up right, that's exactly.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: How he got that sincere and gave him a little
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: fist bump, Vinny, good guy nine Harris Right, Yeah, trust
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: I don't know how you guys can see stuff up
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: here so far away.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: Next soarly back to pass would have got nice play.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Donnie Pittsburgh writes in Andrew, he said a guy from
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: named Chad Graff from the Athletic Rating Mack. He says,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: in summary, he pitches Max can't can't perform it so
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: far as in the faller category, specifically citing a lack
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: of throw timing in chemistry with his receivers. How does
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: that analysis make you all feel about Max's ability to
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: improve his game with the addition of O'Brian.
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: The fifth on thee.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna play the fifth.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, I would say that there's something accuracy to
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: the point of the timing hasn't been there. I would
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: agree with that. I what am I reading into that?
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: I'm kind of with the boys like not a lot.
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: It just kind of looks the same to me. I mean,
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: it's just Mac has been Mac for better or worse.
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: And as I said at the top, the thing that's just,
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: you know, I want to see is some of the
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: downfield stuff.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: And it was inconsistent and sporadic last year, but at.
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: Least you know, he hit on a couple of downfield pros,
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: and I mean, he hasn't had much opportunity. They've been
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: in the red zone, but you know, it's hard to
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: look at their red zone performance over the first four
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: days of camp and feel encouraged, you know. I mean,
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: I'm sure when they get into game situations and Bill
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: O'Brien can game plan and attack defenses and put guys
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: in right positions, that it'll be a.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: Little bit easier for him. But I would just say
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: generally Mac isn't really raising the level of.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: All and I think not only Max not lifting it,
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: but I think the receivers are not necessarily built to
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: just go out and make a play one on one. Now,
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: I'll go back to your guy Pop. You know, maybe
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: maybe he's one of those guys that can can find
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: out figure out ways to do some of those things.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: But right now, I agree with you guys, the most
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: successful play seem to be when they're confusing the defense
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: as opposed to when they're beating the defense.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe you should put your head.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, while we were gone, Unfortunately, not great news.
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: We'll see what it is.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: Cold strange spending some time with the trainers, Evan, did
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: you see the play when he went.
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: Not Lawrence Guy's fault, but he was tangled up with
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: Lawrence Guy. And this blocking drill that they're doing right
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: now looked to me like it was a little bit
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: of a twist of the knee. And to be hopeful,
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: I think maybe it was just the brace might have
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: gotten and dig dug into him, you know, and the
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: brace kind of twists off and then sort of digs
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: into your your leg like that. If you want to
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: be optimistic, I would say that that's.
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: Bill just went over and checked on him. He's walking
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: back to the athletic training area.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: He does look like he's walking better now than when
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: he first got up. But they loosened his left knee
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: brace and he's walking into the shed with the trainer
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: for the team. Belichick came over and checked, kind of
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: nodded his head and it walked away. So it was
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: a quick update from the trainer.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: So I'm hopeful it was like they were shielding so
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: I couldn't see what if they were doing the ACL
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: test or anything. I'm sure they did, but I didn't
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: actually get a chance to see it. Yeah, I mean,
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: hopefully we'll get good news he's back in that training
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: area now.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: So kind of an interesting drill here where you have
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: like lineman versus defensive lineman on either side of the
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: center and the quarterback and it seems like they're either
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: throwing the ball or tossing it. Interesting drill. I don't
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: remember seeing this one.
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, this is They do this all the time. This
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: is one of my favorites because you're you're really working
• 42:52
  Speaker 7: on leveraging the block right, So clearly the running back
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: has to read whether you go inside or outside, and
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: then the blocker needs to go ahead and and wallow
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: it off which other direction he needs, And it's just
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: kind of good to isolate these guys one on one
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: like this other so you don't have to see through
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: a mess of people to kind of be able to
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: look at everybody. I thought a couple of good ones
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: from from Matt Sokole, which I think is notable because
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: he's made some good catches and UH and team drills
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: as well, and he's been a pretty good blocker from
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: what I've seen. Two and we talk about that third
• 43:26
  Speaker 7: tight end spot. Maybe somebody to come in and block
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: and Bill Murray, Bill Murray throwing a few good ones too.
• 43:32
  Speaker 7: One just now on on Christian Barmore. So a couple
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: of guys I thought stood out, and I thought McDermott
• 43:38
  Speaker 7: held his own pretty well too. But I think the
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: sole Sol had a really good block on Jelanie to
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: Vaih to clear them out and turn them outside. If
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: they're gonna win that tight end three job, it's gonna
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: it's gonna be blocking, it's not gonna be pass catching.
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: I'll be stealing that for the blog.
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: Go for it. I love that droll. That's that makes
• 44:05
  Speaker 7: it so much easier because I think for all of us,
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: when there's eleven guys and there's yeah right, and when
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: you just have people on an island like that, you
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: can really tell who who's doing well.
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: Part of the advantage of being up here too, because
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: I'm not sure how much the the know it all
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: time could get access to seat like a site line
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: to see all those reps.
• 44:28
  Speaker 7: It'll be in blogs and it'll be in the Trench
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: report today.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: To now we're on to punt.
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: What do you guys think of socle I mean, I agree, I.
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: Think he's doing what he needs to do right now,
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: and it's playing about third tight end. I mean that,
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: you know, it doesn't really feel like it feels a little
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: tenuous to think that you can go through through the
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: season with just Henry and Kasiki playing.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: There's no way they're going to do that.
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: At the very least, they'll have a couple on the
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: practice squad. But if you want to us multiple tight
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: ends for any length of time, you need more than two.
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: You know, Like, if you go into a game and
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: you have your game plan is, well, we think we're
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: going to operate and who's that that miss that pun
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: miles miles front. If you think you're going to go
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: into a game and have any significant amount of your
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: game plan you know, devoted to having two tight ends,
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden in the first series, one.
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: Of them goes down.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: What do you well, I guess we couldn't play today
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: because our.
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: Game plan was two tight ends.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so you got to have more than
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: more than two to be able to play that way.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure is excited about it.
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: I also think that one of if you're going to
• 45:37
  Speaker 7: play a lot of twelve, one of them's got to
• 45:40
  Speaker 7: be able to inline block. And I don't know if
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: that's really going to be a Sickies game at all.
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: And I think Henry last year his blocking definitely took
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: a step back and he's more of a of a
• 45:51
  Speaker 7: stalemate blocker anyways, and the guy that's really going to
• 45:53
  Speaker 7: clear somebody out. So if you're going to be effective
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: and first down out of twelve personnel, then someone's gonna
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: have to be able to throw a block. And I
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: think that's where Socle comes in potentially. And I know
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: that's not what people want to hear. They want to
• 46:05
  Speaker 7: hear that Henry and Gazeki are going to play together.
• 46:07
  Speaker 7: But if twelve personnel is going to be a big
• 46:09
  Speaker 7: part of their early down offense, I could see somebody
• 46:12
  Speaker 7: like Socle. And I've also mentioned Johnny Lumpkin in the
• 46:14
  Speaker 7: past as being a guy that strictly plays on first
• 46:18
  Speaker 7: down and short yardage and things like that.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: He looks that that part, without question, out of out
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: of all the tight ends. If you're asking for one
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: to be like sort of that three blocking specialist, that
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: would be him. But you know, I don't know if
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: he does enough of the other stuff to warn a
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: rosters Barbles, you know, to see what this is. You know,
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: in the preseason games and those joint practices and stuff,
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: you start to see how they employ these guys and
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: you get a better idea what they're thinking. Well, another
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: bomb for Barrenger Man, he does get some hang time.
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, what was the feeling down there with the punding yesterday?
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: Because I thought they both got there.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: They were both excellent. They were both excellent early then
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: late when they were doing those little updowns while they
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: were punting and the rest of the team was on
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: the conditioning hill. I thought Weightman struggled a little bit,
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: but they both were killing the ball yesterday for the
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: most part.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: That's another one. Let's see what Corlis has.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: A lot of his have been short all of a sudden,
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: Like the last I'd say Weightman, I mean he lost
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: the juice. Yeah, I don't know if it was something
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: that they're working on or what. This was a good one. Yeah,
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: turned it over.
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: As they say, is that when it all of a
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: sudden gets into spiral mode, like at the at the Apex.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: He has a couple of those.
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: I like those.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: I think we had some phone calls that you might
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: need to get to it.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I can't.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: Okay, I thought Matt said to go to a phone call.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Just to give you a close strange update. They set
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: up a table. They tested both his knees for that
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: you know what that ACL test and everything, so I
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: think they were kind of comparing how one felt against
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: the other. So he's just kind of sitting there talking
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: with the assistant trainer right now, putting his shoes back on.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: So I don't know, we'll see, didn't get that one turned.
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the punting bat not to go too long on
• 48:26
  Speaker 7: the punters, but.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Let's say we got time.
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: It's kind of a dead heat right now. I feel like,
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: you know, both guys have their thing. I think Corlis
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: Weightman's a little bit more consistent, but bar Baringer can
• 48:39
  Speaker 7: do this and flip the field. But there are times
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: where he shanks it, so it's a little bit more inconsistent,
• 48:46
  Speaker 7: but he has a bigger leg. It depends on what
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: they're looking for, I think in terms of do you
• 48:51
  Speaker 7: want a guy that can really flip field position or
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: are you more looking for a guy that's just gonna
• 48:55
  Speaker 7: You're gonna know what you got right, You're gonna get
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: it up there in four seconds and it's gonna be
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: exactly in this same spot. Every time.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I feel like they're usually option B.
• 49:06
  Speaker 7: I would I would tend to agree with I think
• 49:09
  Speaker 7: consistency is more important to them, and being able to
• 49:13
  Speaker 7: control the ball I think is big too.
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: That I think that's really big for them.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: The directional punts of plus fifty work and things like that, Yep,
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: I think more important.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Alright, Eleven's.
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah wait, actually yeah, all right, so what do we got?
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: Says the first padded eleven my pool and Marty mop.
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: Was my pool in a red jersey and playing linebackers.
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: So this is probably maybe the same thing they did yesterday.
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: Maybe this is gonna be a little tempo, a little
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: two minute maybe looks it. Phil O'Brien barking out commands
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: seems like he's holding things up here. For a second something.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if it's a good or bad sign,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: but Cole Strange is putting his knee brace back on,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: so he's still out. He's still out there and he's
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: in the thing putting his brace on, so that could
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: be a sign he's coming back out.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: In the meantime, who took his spot at left guard?
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: It looks like maffy, maffy.
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: Yep, that's good, Yep.
• 50:14
  Speaker 7: That's interesting. They only had one side of the line rush.
• 50:18
  Speaker 7: One side of the line got a rep of pass
• 50:20
  Speaker 7: rush past protection the other side.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: Just to to deuce his point. You know, you got
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: a guy out there, you know, full patch.
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: Here we go. H there's a guy out there with
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: a red jersey.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: So you're kind of like, all right, this isn't gonna
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: be full tilt full time.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But interesting that.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: I mean that linebacker, you know, not not where he
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: was at the starter camp back irritating Evan at safety.
• 50:43
  Speaker 6: And it seems like Miles Brian is working his way
• 50:45
  Speaker 6: back in today with the ones that the nickel spot,
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: I should say, the star slots a handful of I
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: think he's been He's caught my eye a couple of
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: times not just the strange thing yesterday, but even in
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: those reps earlier, he's just a fire hydrant.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: You know, it's tough, tough to move.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: I like that he's trying to do some running down there.
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: Cold strange.
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, some light jogs by the the Yates of Hell.
• 51:12
  Speaker 7: I don't think we need to push it on day.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Five now set out this practice.
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: Well, it's certainly a good sign that they're at least
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: letting him try it and not carting them off.
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: And yes, I agree.
• 51:28
  Speaker 7: Connor McDermott. I'll tell you he doesn't make a ton
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: of mistakes mentally. They just ran a little twist at
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: him and he was able to pick it up. Take
• 51:37
  Speaker 7: a little bit of coaching. It looks like from Adrian
• 51:38
  Speaker 7: clem now. But I just consistently I see him be
• 51:43
  Speaker 7: the most sturdy guy. He don't really see him get
• 51:45
  Speaker 7: beat badly too often. I know he's not the most
• 51:48
  Speaker 7: dynamic athlete, but.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: You gotta take what you got at this point.
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: I mean, they don't. That tackle room is not very athletic.
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: Mac oh geez, all.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: The linemen wearing those padded helmet you know, the pads
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: on the outside of the helmet. Just an FYI Riley
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Reef on for a ride on that one.
• 52:14
  Speaker 7: And ninety two together is a mean group. I mean
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: they just they just dented the entire left side of
• 52:21
  Speaker 7: that pocket. It was a brief.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: And I think brief.
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: Reef just lost his footing and it almost looked like
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: it was like one of the guys.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Fell down.
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: Trying to all right.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Zeppian so kind of interesting.
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: I don't know, Mapu and Tabaire your first two linebackers,
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: and you get Bentley out there, Bentley and mack Wilson.
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: Jack Jones, Marcus Jones in the.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Corner spots looking good. Complete Is that Pop again.
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: Again? There?
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: He is all over the place. Pop Douglas.
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: I decided yesday because everyone was asking was it Popper
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: or or is it Tomorrow? He's like, whatever, whatever you
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: wanna call it, I'm gonna call him Pop. Yeah, sure,
• 53:14
  Speaker 6: you know it's every team needs a popuse every time
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: I say Tomorrio.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I'm about to say to Mario Davis.
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: Strange, that is true, you do call him Davis. I
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: so I'm going you should know your guy. I know,
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: I think he's Evan Sky's.
• 53:28
  Speaker 7: Dropped by Andrew stub You can't drop that heard I
• 53:33
  Speaker 7: think that's it's Kean White wearing red underneath his pads
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: and my rolled up. So yeah, Andrew with a nice
• 53:40
  Speaker 7: anchor on Keon White.
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: There, h, Andrew is a big guy.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Thanks for asking.
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: I caught that that used to be Jonathan stupor stupid.
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: Thanks for asking Stupor.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Thanks for having.
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: Thanks, Matt.
• 53:59
  Speaker 6: I just showed Campbell the very first episode of south
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: Park last night. He's been dynasty south Park said all right, well,
• 54:05
  Speaker 6: what's the first one?
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Who? So? Scott so well.
• 54:10
  Speaker 7: So always on the side of the quarterback, So.
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: Where's the fly? So not happy with that result? Explosive
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: what they may have heard that in the background, you
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: what are you yelling at?
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: So I'm starting to lose faith that we're going to
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: give any goal line?
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah today.
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: I don't recall us getting it any last year.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: No, we haven't gotten it for a while, which.
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: Is just funny.
• 54:34
  Speaker 6: They spent like their whole time in the red zone
• 54:36
  Speaker 6: and then Pat's come on and they're like, all, let's
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: move it out to the forty.
• 54:39
  Speaker 7: Usually they do goal lined joints. I'm joint practices. I
• 54:43
  Speaker 7: think maybe they I don't know, more more competitive or
• 54:47
  Speaker 7: something like that or to save that for then I
• 54:50
  Speaker 7: don't know.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: Well, as you said, it's way a cold, strange girl.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: That's training cam. Well, so here's the sequence of events.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: He was gonna put his brace on and then w
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Aalen came back and said, hold on, we got to
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: test this out. So he was doing the little running
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: you saw. Then they brought over the orthopedic doctor and
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: now he's back on the table with the doctor inside. Yeah,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: with the doctor looking at him. So they're going to
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: be extra extra careful.
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: I might need you to write a paragraph on that
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: and send it to me. Fritz checked out, all.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he stood up. He did some skipping.
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: But I was talking to Evan about that the other day,
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: like when guys get hurt and you see it happen
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: and you're like you can chronicle the play and then
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: like I lose them for the rest of.
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: The practice, Like did he go back? Yeah? This do
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: you do that?
• 55:40
  Speaker 7: Connor McDermott put in Ronnie Perkins in the ground.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Whoa, All right, well it's whoa.
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: It's not pumped.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: The breaks on that a little bit.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: Here's no pop dog and he's still popped.
• 55:50
  Speaker 7: Just give this to me.
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: I know, I know Yevin, he's such a killed you
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: all right, you got it.
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: Connor mcdermot's your guy, Evan, you're married twenty three season.
• 55:59
  Speaker 7: I can't. I can't back off to take that.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: You're married to that one.
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: It's tough one to be taken ordered on.
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: I mean at this point though, I'll take anything they
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: can get at the tackle spot.
• 56:15
  Speaker 7: I think he caught that.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think he was in bound.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: That's a nice catch, but I don't think he was
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: in bound all right doing something though, although you know,
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: anytime you get that Booty Ronnie Perkins matchups Booty.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: All right, not bad. Oh god.
• 56:38
  Speaker 6: So now we got map who playing a little little
• 56:40
  Speaker 6: deep safety too. So quite a couple of first days
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: for him, but it seems like he's kind of gotten
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: back into the mix where he wasn't and that was a.
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: Mere speed speed.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: Roll web.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: It's been a little uh drop, little slot, a little sloppy,
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: but some of the past catch today. I haven't seen
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: a lot of drops in the first few days. Mostly
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: all the incomplete passes had no chance of.
• 57:07
  Speaker 6: Being convinced right well, like that last one from McSorley
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: that was like.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Landed in the zone.
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: So yeah, you got Hawkins and Mapu at safety.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the low level reps. Oh nice, that's
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: a good little throat.
• 57:29
  Speaker 7: A lumpkin, good rep by Sam Roberts.
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: Evansky, lumpkin m s.
• 57:35
  Speaker 6: Evan's got lumpkin McDermott. All right, moving on.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm waiting for the more juice here is.
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: I don't have anything.
• 57:47
  Speaker 7: This juice, all the juice is happening in the trenches,
• 57:49
  Speaker 7: and you guys know, I watch it.
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of juice.
• 57:56
  Speaker 7: That's the Those guys are going at it a little.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: But actually, who's seventeen Scottie Washington. He's banged up. He's
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: next up on the table.
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: And oh boy, seventeen he just went in.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, pull another paragraph for you.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I can't really write about that. I have
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: no idea how.
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: Not exactly generating clicks.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Scotty, some Scotty Washington fans out there. Now we're into
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: special teams.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, hunting back the other way.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Hunting battle continues, Yates of Hell filling up. It's gotta
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: either gotta get some one on one.
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: There's somebody else going in there now too.
• 58:46
  Speaker 7: Sixty three, Yeah, saxty three has been hobbling all practice.
• 58:50
  Speaker 7: I don't know what's up with him.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: And he would be Uh, that's chasing Hines.
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: I think that's what I thought.
• 58:57
  Speaker 7: Oh the lineman, Yeah, he's been and the thing limping
• 59:02
  Speaker 7: the whole practice.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's bolding.
• 59:07
  Speaker 7: No, it's sixty three chasing minds.
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: He'd be a white shirt if it was right.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Wow, I was Bryant returning.
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, let's see Berenger.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they got a line waiting to get into the
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: training room there.
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: I'm surprised that they had.
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: That's so open here, Like now, that wasn't here when
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: I first got here. But that's that, that's not that
• 59:35
  Speaker 6: does not seem like, hey, let's have a window into
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: the athletic training rooms.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Every time somebody gets hurt, everyone sees what's going on.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Good news, Uh, strangers putting his brace back on. So
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: so that's up on him.
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: Days of our lives, the uh, it's on, it's off.
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: General about Franco still dead.
• 59:57
  Speaker 7: I like that they're really taking a lot of time
• 59:59
  Speaker 7: on these two man row combos on the goal line,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 7: on these special teams drills happening with the quarterbacks and
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 7: just the receivers on one field and the special teams
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 7: going on the other field, and they're working all sorts
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: of different combinations down here.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: Probably remember when we used to have the Hall of
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Fame drill. Yes, it was Brady Gronk.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was fun, good times.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 7: I wouldn't say this is quite on that.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: Level, but is Pop Douglas down there though.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: That that would probably put it over the top. But
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: he's returned with.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 7: The returners, dang it.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: Which, by the way, I've been very impressed with his
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: ability to field punts on the run. Too much compliments
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: and now I was going to balance it out. Ball
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: security for him was an issue in college. Correct, No
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: one had that part of the scout in your port.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: All security was an issue for Douglas in college.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 7: I'm a big ball security security guy.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: You don't believe in that, you don't believe in not
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: turning the ball over.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 7: They're they're good at coaching guys up.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's another short one for just don't drop it,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: and when you do, make sure someone's there to recover it.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: I mean it's not that hard.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 6: You're right, Probably some of these weightment punts are just
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 6: kind of sure dying. Yeah, So maybe he's not the
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: consistency guy.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: Yesterday the first round of punting, he was like one
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: bomb after the next. Then at the end when they
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: were doing that punting, as I said, when the guys
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: were running and they were running, he was a little
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: less consistent.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: As another boomer by Bearinger. But that's a nice punt.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 7: Perfect. If he can punt it that far and direct
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 7: it like that where it's right in the on the sideline,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 7: then it might be good.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: Did Jake Bailey catch on anymore?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 7: He's in Miami?
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Is it right?
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: Yep?
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Dexter and Santa Rosa rightes in. I'm rooting for Mac
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Jones and hoping he pops off with a great season.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: That being said, I sort of understand why people out
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: there are rooting for Zappi during the sham Cam Newton
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: versus Mac Jones competition that was over weeks before they
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: cut can if we all did what Fred tells Patriots
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Nation and watch what Bill did instead of what he said,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: we would have seen it coming that they would go
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: with Mac based off of these initial practices with pads.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at what they're doing and having Zappy in
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: any irregular positioning other than backup makes the sparks stay
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: alive on this competition. Is there anything there? How shocked
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: would you be if at the beginning of the season
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: Bill goes to the podium and says we're gonna go
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: with Bailey Zappy.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: At the beginning of the season'd be I'd be completely
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: flowed by that. Yeah, so would I, especially especially based
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: on what we've seen in camp.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 7: I think with the difference in the comparison between Mac
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 7: the Cam and Mack. Here to me is Mac legitimately
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 7: outplayed Cam Newton in that camp Like it wasn't It
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 7: wasn't just that he was the first round pick and
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 7: it was gonna go that way regardless. I really felt
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 7: like he played better than Cam did in that camp.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: See, I was in the in the camp of they're
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: basically the same. And if that's the case, why are
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: you gonna go with Cam Newton?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: No sense?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: Now, I still expected Cam Newton to open the season
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: as a starter, And the only one in our group
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: that had Mac starting week one.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 5: Was was Eric.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: If you recall, it's like the only thing he ever
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: got right, but he did, he was he was out
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: ahead of that one. I will continue to say, oh,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: going down to the gods, Stay up, Stay up, a
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: little running game work. I will continue to say that
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: the death knell for Cam Newton was the COVID uh,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: you know, all that's you know, the the vaccine and
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: the you know and all that stuff. I just think
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: that there was a lack of reliability there and they
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: couldn't they couldn't take that chance. I think mac Jones
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: would have been the starter eventually, if not in if
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: not in week one, I don't think there's any question
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: about it. I agree with Evan. I think he was
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: better than Cam Newton.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: But and even if it was a little bit, you
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: had to go with.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: Matt, right, I mean, it was gonna happen inevitably. But
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: to me, the fact that it happened in week one
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: was solidified by Cam not being available for those Giants
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: joint practices.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 6: Remember those yeptues, Yeah, ninety one jumped up, Yeah.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: And he got all of the reps in those joint practices.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: I thought he played pretty well in those joint practices.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 7: Especially the first one. First one, he was really good. Yeah.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 7: Then they started spinning the dial on him the next
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 7: day and it wasn't quite as good.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: Remember, all the writers got all mad at the Giants
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: for blitzing.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well Bill got mad at the Giants for blitzing.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Wink Martindale right on the dial. Not much there for
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: that run, but they lines are hitting, you know, probably
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: eighty eight.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: This is like the running game version of what they
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: did yesterday. So the starting in the middle of the field.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: Running plays quickly with tempo, but there's a lot of
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: runs involved in in some play action off of it,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: there's another uncovered guy wide.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 7: Nice pocket there is that.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Kevin Harrison, Kevin Harris, and then I don't need
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 6: no Ezekiel right yet.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 7: There you go, nice little pocket there by the offensive line.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 6: I mean it is a it is a makeshift line
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 6: right now between refit LEC Tackle Mafia. Left guard Andrews
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 6: is the one stable piece right.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: Now, since Fred hasn't offered any updates on Strange in
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: the last thirty five seconds, he's still working over here
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: in the Yates of Hell.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: He's working with one of the trainers hitting pads. They're
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: just gonna be extra careful have him go through all
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: the motions of alignment before they actually put him out there.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: We got Zappi in with Pure Strong, who's that pop Douglas.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: Douglas, he looks smooth. He looks smooth. He can absolutely fly. Yeah,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: I mean he's quick as hell.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: I mean it was a good pass too, by the way,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: right there.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 7: I don't know if I don't know if Bentley would
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 7: have gotten him there. I think that was I don't
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 7: think he would have. I think that's Jalen Mills making
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 7: the tackle downfield.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: Or I don't think Bentley was going to get there
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: in time.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: There's another lap, yeah, Sam Roberts, Yeah, a couple off
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: sides for the wise earlier.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they working on some time. I think that the
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: cadence because it looks like they're very excited when they
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: get somebody to jump.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: Also, just a little bit notable.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 6: And I don't I don't want to blow these things
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 6: up too much, but Barmore kind of going with the
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 6: top ones that there too. Yeah, well after why Scott
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 6: outside put him in. But but guy, you know, guy
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 6: playing with Davis here in the second team. It's just
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: been a little things to monitor. I'd love to see
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 6: Barnmore be able to not be.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: Just a situation pass rusher.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they need some juice on early downs
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: like he has.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: Nice protection.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: Oh nice hold.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Who you got?
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: Who do you have in the whole sixty sixty three? Yeah,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: it's probably a flag the dB.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Taekwon.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: Back shoulder, couldn't come down with it.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 7: Last last couple of practices, Taekwon has been with the
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 7: high end two's if you will, and uh he's he's
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 7: gotten open a little bit more in the last couple
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 7: of sessions, but we've got to see him do it
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 7: against Solace.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: Like a nice five place stretch. Yesterday he was really active.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 6: All right, Mac back out there with the with the
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: ones again, saying again Sam Roberts the left defensive end, so.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: And I'll take for what you will with the ones. Yeah,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: Parker on the outside.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's tight package there, Tweet three tight ends on
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 6: left and.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 7: Listen't it that was that was blocked?
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I said a run.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 7: By Connor McDermott again left side opened that up. McDermott
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 7: on the backside block, but it was Reef and Mafi.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 6: On the I mean, it's it's really kind of the
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 6: Harrison Strange uh and uh Strong show today. You know,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 6: it doesn't didn't sem like we're getting much of a
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: Mandrae in the snow.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 7: I think he went down to the conditioning field.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Juju in the backfield, Juju with a catch, a little
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: swing pass Kyle Dugger versus taekwond.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: Exactly what I was just gonna say, Like, that's a
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: tough ask.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: So that one, well you said that Pop Douglas probably
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: would have been able to get by Bentley. That one
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: would have been a four yard lost.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: Ye.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Kyle Duggart, just you know, you can Thornton. You
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 7: cannot ask Taekwon Thorton to make that block. That's that's
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 7: one in the game that you're making sure is.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: Not happening Alabama his own left.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 7: Oh so yeah, that time the combo block held up
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 7: and Tobai was free to the ball. That's what we
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 7: saw a lot last year was it wasn't really the
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 7: first level. Is that they couldn't get that second level
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 7: guy blocked because they couldn't get up to the second
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 7: level because they're getting held up at the first level.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 7: So but that that was Godshaw, who's had a nice practice,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 7: I think on the nose, he's he's been really difficul.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: He's one of the best alignemen in the league.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: Defensive so defensive.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 7: Line Yeah, him and Wise have been solid. I know
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 7: whis ran that lap. But other than that.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: Job, Bill Murray though there check down and Kevin Harris,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 6: uh night. Nice little block by Bill Murray on our
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 6: got chall right there.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 7: I'll get Bill Murray this. He's physical and he's got
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 7: a good motor and you can tell that he's he
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 7: blocks through that whistle at old cliche.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: So when does he arrive at the stadium and when
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 5: does he leave?
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: He's generally among the first to arrive, among the first.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know about when he leaves.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: He's the first one, but he's the first one out too.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: He he's got stuff to do.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: First one in, first one out.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: You know how that goes.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: It's the way to do it.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: Nobody works anyhow. JJ Taylor in there.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the stuff they were working on earlier, pop not
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 6: too much there on that one.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 7: The gandered Phillips probably would have held him up enough
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 7: to let the convoy come.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: But he made the catch.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 6: This is this is what they were doing earlier, right,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 6: just these little running back swing passes and yep, you
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 6: got a kind of a combo block there from the
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 6: receiver up front.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is all built off the running game. Not
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: much there on that run.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 7: Cody Russy, but a quality with the jersey rolled up
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 7: that he was in the middle of that I can't.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: He usually has a white shirt underneath.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so yeah, it was a.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: These are things that's like twenty years from now and
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: we'll be like, oh, yeah.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 5: Remember Daniel Kuala used to roll his shirt up and
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 5: have a white shirt underneath. Why do you know that.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there's already those things.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: Oh and it looks like cool Strange is making this
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 5: way back over.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 6: It's the field now and he's been handed back his helmet.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: J J. Taylor rumbling, stumbling, bumbling.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 6: I missed that play because I smooth.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: Uh. Is it a handoff?
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's an outside zone handoff and a nice nice
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 7: play by Marty Mapu putting his nose in there, reading
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 7: it out, pacing out the running back.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: Would be a glorious day when he gets that red
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: jersey off.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think it's a positive that he's
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 7: not on pup honestly. Yeah, I'll take it.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: Nose peck right, peck surgery.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: That was what.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so you got Marcus Jones playing a little little
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 6: safety too. I was just kind of flipping with yeah Phillips, Yeah,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 6: oh pop, he's got him.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 5: Marcus Jones. I don't see it as a corner. Yeah,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: that was a tough play there.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he had him beat passes a little high. Yeah.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 6: I would have liked to see him, to Paul's pointing,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 6: a little more burst, you know, because they they basically
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 6: what they flipped Phillips and Jones. So Jones was just
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 6: kind of waiting for for Douglas to get off the line,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 6: and Douglas ran across, and I mean even off the ball,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 6: Marcus just couldn't couldn't catch up Jase Douglas.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: It's Marcus Jones.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, like that's not like no, but it's Douglas.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: But it's not something like Rodney Randall out there. It's
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: Marcus Jones is like one of them. He can run,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: but the best athletes on the field.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: But who's going to cover Douglas.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: Oh, evidently not Marcus Jones.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 7: Oh we got another Uh oh.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: Oh it was down three.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 7: Uh I can't tell his jersey's rolled up.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: It's three.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: See him banging a turf? Yeah it is twenty nine?
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: Maybe is that Hawkins?
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 7: Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, I think he just bang knees
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 7: with somebody.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 5: The old the old knee bang.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 7: It just doesn't sound the old knee bang.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, been around since the beginning of football around bone.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 6: Best story as old as side's why you wear those
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 6: little knee pad, the little knee ones that hang over
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 6: there your kneecap that don't really seem to do anything.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: He's being helped off.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 6: Like the thigh pads I get, I know, and even
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 6: the hip pads, but like the butt crack pad and
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 6: the little knee pads, I never quite caught those in football.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: While you wear those, oh I liked it. I liked
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 5: knee pads.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 7: The butt crack pad is big.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you fall on that, you get hurt, protect your
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: butt cracked.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 7: You don't want to break your tailbone.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 5: You never got sacked. Huh you need that? Yeah? Oh yeah,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 5: I got you.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 6: Now as a six ft one hundred and ninety pound
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 6: offensive and defensive lineman, I uh yeah, I didn't.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: I didn't A took pride to never getting put on
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: my backside.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: I got put on my backside every single down I played.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: Again, we didn't use pads my day traces.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: So early time.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 7: Is that running back here strong? That's a little bounce.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: Bounce with me.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 7: The conditioning guys are back, but I don't none of
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 7: them have helmets, so I don't think it's back back.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 5: But so who was I see.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 7: Trent Brown and Judean and Remandre.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 5: Okay, I have all three of those guys.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 6: Shot a good three pretty good players.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 7: Far more sack rushing on sixty six. Lucy, Yeah, I'm
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 7: not sure, sir, they like Rusie. I think it's on
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 7: the active roster as by the end of the year
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 7: last year if I'm not mistaken, but have a little
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 7: bit of a rough practice.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: So thumbs down.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: Well you get Jake Andrews out.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: You got to make the most of these opportunities, right,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: Mick Sorely Again.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 6: Now, do you think that they're u that they they
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 6: have an offer out potentially to a running back and
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 6: they and they would sign him if he would sign
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 6: said offer, or do you think that they're maybe slow
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 6: playing it a little bit just to see.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: What they got in some of their young guys to
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: see exactly.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: Great question, Great question. My guess is they have an
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: offer out there to Ezekieler.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: That's what I heard that they're really Yeah you heard that.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: I heard that.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, is this another one of those musket fire things.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: No, I thought. I think Reese mentioned it this morning,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: that there's an offer out there.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I did not care to say that. I might
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: have been blacking out.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 6: This tough like you know what what what you know,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 6: Let's just say the Jets offer Cook something.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 5: You know, it could be way more, could be way less. Like,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 5: you know, it's kind of hard to make the offer before.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 6: You feel like the market for these running backs that
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 6: are you know, want a lot of money.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 7: And yeah, I think Dalvin you gotta wait and see
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 7: what He's the first domino to fall. I think once
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 7: Dalvin signed somewhere, then I think you'll see Zeke sign
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 7: and maybe even Leonard Fournett sign.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: At that If you're one of the teams that is
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: interested in four Nett or Elliott, like you don't want
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: Cook to sign first.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: Right, you do that for yeah, because he's gonna make
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: a lot more than those What's what's going on here?
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: That's the stuff getting hurt here, guys, team's getting all
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: everybody's gathering in the middle.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 5: This feels like we got Bill in the teaching moment.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm not sure.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 6: We're gonna hit right, now, but let's be respectful and
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 6: Bill likes what's going on out there.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 7: At the same time with the running backs, though, I
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 7: think for the teams like the Patriots that have shown
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 7: a little bit of interest in Dalvin Cook, I think
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 7: they're waiting to see if they have a chance at
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 7: Dalvin Cook before they just swoop in on on Zeke Elliott.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 5: So yeah, Bill, Bill's got the whole squad around him
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 5: right now.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, some palms up.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: Did you guys see anything like No, I haven't seen
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: it being overly chippy.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: The first time they hit it, so you see a
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 4: little like after the whistle.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: But I don't think it was that. I think it's
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: just I think just.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 5: Are they dragging you? Yeah, he's trying to lift them up.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: They're just not sharp enough.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 7: Perhaps seemed like he didn't just speculate him. It seemed
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 7: like he didn't like the the tempo of getting into
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 7: that whatever they were about to do next. Guy's kind
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 7: of walking around and things like that.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: Maybe that's what it is, because he is there's a
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: lot of handwaving. That's usually when he talks like that.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 5: He's not happy.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's what are we doing?
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 5: Paul can tell you from experience.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 6: Geez really landing on right now, we'll see what's next.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 5: An extended talk.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: They're going with the ball cap this year, not the visor. Yeah,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: that red hoodie man.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 7: That was a long That was a long talk.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: It was about two minutes.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're breaking it up. Now get the clock on
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: that one.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: I did.
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  Speaker 1: And now we are at the eleven yard line.
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  Speaker 6: It's like we got Matt Sokell out there.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 7: That's Henry and Socle. That's the two tight ends, looks like,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 7: and then.
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  Speaker 1: Juju and Parker. I got my goal line. I got
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: my goal line touchdown. It was a nice cut. Who
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: was that Harris?
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 7: Harris tem Bentley Hadham.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it was a touchdown, but it
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: was still a good cut.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 5: I don't think he would have gotten all the.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: Way Yeah no, but he would have gotten one or two.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: But we got a little goal line.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 5: I'm very happy. Paul can go home happy.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's what he was preparing, that's why he brought
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: him in. Look, we're gonna do a goal line now.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't want any chippiness. That's I could
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: speak to friendly.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: That's not the way it's designed.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: And you got to catch that.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: That's not the way it's designed. That's not a good
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: throw either. He probably should have caught it, but not
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 4: a good throw, a handoff of play action fake to nobody,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: and then the timing was all off.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that looks like a miscommunication, busted play.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess Bill didn't say no miscommunications or busted
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 5: players in this two minutes ago.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: Well, Bill, you didn't say anything about miscommunication.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: You mean we have to talk. It was implied.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean based on you know, sort of pulling
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 4: for Harris a little bit. You'd like to see him
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: make that catch, but not a good throw.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 6: Jonathan Jones, Yeah, I think j Jones would have had
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 6: you to.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 5: Sniff that one out.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, although I will say that once they actually are
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 7: tackling to the ground, that's that's a tackle that you
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 7: hope Juju breaks. I mean, that's why he's here.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, good play, though, I mean, you know, just generally
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 5: it didn't wasn't really.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: Jeez.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: I've been a little underwhelmed with him.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Juju, I think he's definitely some one of those
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 7: guys he's not gonna get open on his own like
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 7: we've been talking about. He's someone that's gonna be a
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 7: part of scheme things that will hopefully get him open.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: I think Gonzalez has owned him and that's not good.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: Maybe it is good, right.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 5: No, it's not good. Is that strong?
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: Not much there? This is the twos in now.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: I was like, all right, there's still some some vets
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 5: out there, even though it's the second D with Tabai
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: and Carl Davis.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 6: Hey, Kendrick Bourne, alright, say hello.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 7: I think Amphony Jennings would have.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 6: Overly celebrates put Billy Zappy into the socios dot com field.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah again, Mike nice Job.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 7: Was there to make the block, but it was late,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 7: and I think Amphony Jennings did him a favor by
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 7: not running him.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: Over blasting him into Zappy.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 6: Still though, good to see Kendrick Bourne get involved, moving
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 6: a ball up to the five.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 5: Circle emotion and firks.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 7: That was a good run.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah another jump, nice jump cut in the hole.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 5: See.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: The whole Mapoo thing is interesting to me. The guy
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: who was the most physical on that play was Moppoo
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 4: and if I'm an anybody on offense, I'm not hitting
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: him right.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 5: That caused a.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: Problem at joint practices one year a few years ago,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: I forget who guy in red? Someone was in red
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: and they go and they were annoyed.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 5: That's annoying.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not fair. You got a red shirt and
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: you're you're getting chippy. No, Now mcsorley's out there.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 5: Oh boy, be nice, there.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: You go, jas cool? What's that light a crowd today
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: than we've had the last four days. Yeah, that's for sure.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: People back to work.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 7: You gotta know the schedule, you gotta know pads is what.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 7: It really is fun to.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 6: Go come on, especially like I mean, there's good seats
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 6: to be had too, so it almost like double reason
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 6: to come.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: On this day, right.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: Pop in motion probably would have been a sound Yeah.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 6: Oh and Rally Web can't come down with the throw
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 6: in the back of the end zone that.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: He was closed in on the quarterback.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 7: I really love that play design though, there's just so
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 7: much window dressing and misdirection going on. You got the
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 7: back action and Pop Douglas going to the right and
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 7: then you have the route coming back to the left
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 7: and that those are the types of routes where the
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 7: receiver gets lost and all that.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 6: I was just thinking the same thing like these plays
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 6: just looks like there's more going on. It's not so straightforward.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: Folksre in motion hand off up.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 6: The middle and he's in kind of yeah, I.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 5: Thought there was a little bit of a hole.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 7: I think he was in. Yeah. Nice nice kickout block
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 7: by Ferksker on the split zone, comes across formation, makes
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 7: that kickout block.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: It comes the ones back in.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 5: And they're putting it down on the one.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: This could be live, but the two checked out.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 5: Maybe the two put some music on getting to be.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: Women and children might not want to be watching here.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: So we still have Mafi at left guard here next
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: to Andrews.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so, but yeah, we got a real heavy defensive
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 6: line here with white guy Godshaw Davis and what.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 7: This is six so line? This is imbalanced?
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is this is pure goal line versus goal line.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 7: D I think you got it there. But yeah, this
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 7: is interesting that they don't know about that close they
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 7: go with the sixth of the line.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 6: Henry says, yes, I'm gonna go with him.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: I need a goal line ref here.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I needed someone to give me a call and
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 4: that it was close, just a pile that was really close.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 5: We're gonna have to go to review.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 6: So you got r Reef and McDermott on the Oh no,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 6: so you got yeah, you got Stupor at left tackle,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 6: and then you got McDermott off his left and.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: Who is our fullback right here?
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 5: Evan?
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that one would definitely got He got blowed up already,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 4: fumbled those threes, double whammy.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 7: Mac Wilson. Yeah, nice play by him, he was in there.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 7: But interesting couple of interesting things.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 5: Who carried on that play? Was it? Uh?
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: Why did I think it was strong?
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: I think it's Kevin Harris. I think it was strong,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: but it would make more sense that it was Harris. Yeah,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: well Harris is in the huddle right now. I didn't
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: see extreme, you know, someone run off and someone.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's over there, so you probably would.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 5: Have seen it.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 5: It was. That's not good for my boy.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 7: A couple you know, interesting little things. I know, can't
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 7: say too much about. We talked about, Okay, well what
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 7: are they going to do without a full back on
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 7: the roster when it comes to these short yarded situations
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 7: and we're seeing a little there you go a little
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 7: glimpse of what what they have in mind.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: I had enough shot. That's a throat in nowhere. That's
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: that corner, complete corner end zone that has not looked good.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 4: Wow, not happy with the offense once again in case
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: our MIC's not picking that up.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: That needs to a lot of battle. I think so
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: might be rooting for Zappy.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 5: You think he's rooting for himself.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: He wants to try to back in there.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 4: I think he's thinking to himself, you know, if only
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: I came along, I mean, after.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: McSorley, who would you go to?
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 5: Probably so way the thing.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 7: Zoe just has a soft spot for backup quarterback.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: All right, it z happy now, nice play?
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: Oh good, good second effort.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: Uh oh, somebody's punching the ground.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 7: That's Bill Bill Murray, not Bill Murray. Good practice for
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 7: Bill Murray. Now we're limping.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: Everybody's jogging.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 5: I don't what time is it.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: GE's eleven two.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 5: What time we get Well, we didn't start to We
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 5: started way later.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: I have no idea when this is going to end
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: because it started so late.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: Well, and I wouldn't be surprised if this is a
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: little shorter because they you know, according to the schedule,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: they got seven days of practice in a row, so
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: they're going to ramp up throughout the week.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Max running over to the so I think it's
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: six But yeah, your point is taken. And they're also
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: in pads for the first time, and especially those guys
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: up front.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 5: We're doing a lot of a lot of banging.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: Yep, right, Mike, yep. I think.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 5: So it looks like everyone's going down to the hills.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, if they do what they did yesterday, then
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: after the hills, they came back and they did a
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: little bit of work after that.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 5: But that's just the post practice.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so you're calling.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 5: It, Yeah, you're calling it.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: I guess that'll be uh it for today's practice. But
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