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  Speaker 1: we will be diving into a multitude of details from
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  Speaker 1: day three of Buffalo Bill's training camp. Week one as
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  Speaker 1: a hold, Hold as a whole man. We're already not
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  Speaker 1: even a full minute in. You got our first flow,
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  Speaker 1: so week one as a whole, Day three of training
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  Speaker 1: camp in detail as well. I went to each day
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  Speaker 1: of training camp this week, so I have lots of
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  Speaker 1: first hand notes, a lot of aspects to get into.
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  Speaker 1: We had kind of a major development today at day
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  Speaker 1: three at Bill's camp and one of like the not
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  Speaker 1: good variety.
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  Speaker 3: We'll probably lead off with that and that player as
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  Speaker 3: a whole.
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  Speaker 1: But I know it's been harder to get to training
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  Speaker 1: camp this year kind of than ever before. So questions, thoughts, comments, concerns.
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  Speaker 1: here on the show, as we tend to do here
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  Speaker 1: on Disguise Coverage anyway. But yeah, I know there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of questions, thoughts, you know, how did this player? Look,
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  Speaker 1: what's been going on with this? You know, how's this rookie? Look?
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  Speaker 3: How is this position group doing? How is this side
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  Speaker 3: of the ball.
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  Speaker 1: So, just in case I don't naturally cover some of
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  Speaker 1: friendly as we possibly can. On this show. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to dive right into it with the Day three and
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  Speaker 1: week one training camp insights. We're going to lead off
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  Speaker 1: with the somewhat kind of negative. I mean, it is
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  Speaker 1: a negative. We'll just find out how big of a
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  Speaker 1: negative it is. CJ. Gardner Johnson, who in my estimation,
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  Speaker 1: has been the best player in Bill's camp so far,
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  Speaker 1: not just from the defensive side of the ball. Offensively
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  Speaker 1: and defensively. CJ. Gardner Johnson has been the best Bills
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  Speaker 1: player throughout training camp this first week. It started with
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  Speaker 1: a lot of communication pieces. It started with him making
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  Speaker 1: adjustments on the field. You know, the off motion We're
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  Speaker 1: seeing a lot of checks already from the Bills defense
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  Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, what coverages they're running based
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  Speaker 1: on the look they're getting presented.
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  Speaker 3: You know, if they're going from a.
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  Speaker 1: Three by one, do it two x two, if it's
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  Speaker 1: you know, more of a spread, going into a condensed look,
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  Speaker 1: you know the type of motion that's happening. And CJ.
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  Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson has been at the forefront of that communication,
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  Speaker 1: really being the guy in the back end who's checking everything.
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  Speaker 1: He's signaling to d All Forerd actually d offering him.
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  Speaker 1: Have been good in communication with one another. Alferd is
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  Speaker 1: kind of looking to him starting a call, they'll kind
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  Speaker 1: of communicate, relay it within one another. But a huge
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  Speaker 1: guy in that machine has been CJ. Gardner Johnson given
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  Speaker 1: everybody direction and then off the field, he's working with
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of DBS like going over technique and positioning
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  Speaker 1: and you know if if a receiver, if you're lined
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  Speaker 1: up in this spot on the receiver, you know what
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  Speaker 1: to do with your hands here, your feet here. There's
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  Speaker 1: been a lot of good dialogue and discourse with him
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  Speaker 1: and Cole Bishop and d Alford and some of the
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  Speaker 1: other corners as well. And safeties as well. He's been
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  Speaker 1: talking a lot with cornerbacks coach Java Lai, He's been
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  Speaker 1: talking a lot with Jim Leonard like he's been a
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  Speaker 1: true leader on and off the field, which has been
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  Speaker 1: great to see. And then he's been making plays, good
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  Speaker 1: run fits. You know, if bullets were live, he would
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  Speaker 1: have had multiple tackles already in and around the line
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  Speaker 1: of scrimmage. You know, whether he's in the box pre
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  Speaker 1: snap or spur, or are coming from depth and fitting
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  Speaker 1: the run. Multiple good plays and coverage, you know, plays
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  Speaker 1: on the ball, but also matching routes. That's the thing
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  Speaker 1: to note as well. We're seeing more match coverage from
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  Speaker 1: these safeties.
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  Speaker 3: Bishop and CJ.
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  Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson have really been good at that. Their their
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  Speaker 1: athleticism allows them to pick up these crossers or these
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  Speaker 1: inbreaking routes, drive on them, close on them, line up
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  Speaker 1: in true man coverage and go at guys. But from today,
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  Speaker 1: and nothing's been confirmed as of now, I see multiple
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  Speaker 1: folks putting comments into the chat already. Yeah he went down.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't see him go down. I saw just kind
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  Speaker 1: of the aftermath. Not to make it sound more dramatic
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  Speaker 1: than it was, but I saw him go down. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't see him go down. I saw the aftermath. I
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  Speaker 1: just saw a bunch of players crowded around a guy.
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  Speaker 1: Trainers crowded around a guy, and it was CJ.
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  Speaker 3: Gardner Johnson.
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  Speaker 1: He gets up, He's not really able to put any
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  Speaker 1: weight on his right leg for me to me, look
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  Speaker 1: like knee ankle like kind of just that lower half
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  Speaker 1: of the leg wasn't able to put any pressure on
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  Speaker 1: it or weight on it. Gets helped off the field
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, gets taken into the tent, goes into
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  Speaker 1: the tent, and this is something that you know, I
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  Speaker 1: kind of noted right away. They bring a cart over.
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  Speaker 1: They caught him back to the locker room. He walks
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  Speaker 1: out of the tent. So how I could see I
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  Speaker 1: could see him directly coming out of the tent based
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  Speaker 1: off of where I was sitting.
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  Speaker 3: He comes out of the tent, he's barefoot.
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  Speaker 1: He walks to the cart, gets on the cart, and
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  Speaker 1: they take him back to the locker room. Something I
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  Speaker 1: also noted, and this is I'm gonna say this right
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  Speaker 1: off the beth. This is pure speculation because I do
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  Speaker 1: not know, and I'm not going to be the person
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  Speaker 1: who's like a body language reader. I'm not trying to
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  Speaker 1: surmise too much or put too many things out there,
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  Speaker 1: but right before CJ. Gardner Johnson came out of the tent,
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  Speaker 1: Brandon Bean went into that tent, came ont of the
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  Speaker 1: tent and.
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  Speaker 3: Looked a little stressed.
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  Speaker 1: He started walking on the field, and I want I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to see, like, Okay, is he gonna go to
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  Speaker 1: Jim Lenard's, He gonna go to Jim Brady, Joe Brady.
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  Speaker 1: Is he gonna go to Joe Dana's. You gotta go
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  Speaker 1: to Jaba Lai. He kind of made his way into
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  Speaker 1: the field and then stopped and came back. So from
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  Speaker 1: my from my estimation, it looked like they called, uh
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  Speaker 1: Brandon Bean into that tent, kind of maybe told him something. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Now we're getting reports, I know Dion Dawkins has said,
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  Speaker 1: you know that CJ. Gardner Johnson is okay. I saw
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of folks putting that into uh the.
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  Speaker 3: Chat, you know, Deon.
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  Speaker 1: It's being reported now even by like yeahoo sports, Dion
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  Speaker 1: Dawkins saying, uh, c J. Gardner Johnson is okay after
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  Speaker 1: sustaining an apparent non contact lower body injury during training camp, However,
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  Speaker 1: the Bills have not yet provided an official update on
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  Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson's status. Uh. Dion Dawkins said, uh, he can walk,
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  Speaker 1: he's all right. I got the message from the coaches
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  Speaker 1: that he's all right and they're going to do their protocol,
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  Speaker 1: their protocol. But CJ is okay. So that's what Dean
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  Speaker 1: Dawkins is saying. Nothing official as of now. There's been
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  Speaker 1: some videos that have come out of his achilles being
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  Speaker 1: worked on, it looking like in apparent Achilles injury, the
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  Speaker 1: initial descriptors or you know, kind of of the incident
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  Speaker 1: saying that it is something Achilles related. I am not
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  Speaker 1: a doctor or a physical therapist or a surgeon, so
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit there and be like.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, they looked like Achilles to me.
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  Speaker 1: I will say from how he was moving. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: think when how he was walking out of the tent,
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  Speaker 1: because again I was up in the bleachers. I literally
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  Speaker 1: was able to look down and I had a perfect
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  Speaker 1: vantage point of c J. Gardner Johnson before all the
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  Speaker 1: beat people ran to like get videos and pictures of
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  Speaker 1: him being carted off, which I thought, well, I understand
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  Speaker 1: it's their job, but I thought that was a little
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  Speaker 1: heartless to a degree, but he.
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  Speaker 3: Was walking out barefoot.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't seem like his achilles was gone, which is
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  Speaker 1: kind of how it's being made out to me. But again,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor, and I don't want to speculate.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just reporting kind of what I saw. Oh no,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not quoting anybody in specific, Andrew, I see your
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  Speaker 1: comment there. I'm I'm just going off of multiple people
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  Speaker 1: have posted video showing the trainers kind of working on
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  Speaker 1: his achilles, and so I think I guess that's the
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  Speaker 1: report that it is achilles injury Achilles based, but again.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: My biggest thing and then that I want to hit
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  Speaker 1: on is he did go down. He wasn't able to
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  Speaker 1: put any you know, weight on his right leg as
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  Speaker 1: he was coming off. He walked a little bit, got better,
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  Speaker 1: walked out of the temp barefoot to the cart. Not
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  Speaker 1: a lot of steps, but walk barefoot to the cart,
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  Speaker 1: got on the cart, didn't seem to distraught, was kind
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  Speaker 1: of just taking the tape off his hands. But again,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know him as a person, so he could
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  Speaker 1: have been absolutely shattered as a person, and I would
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  Speaker 1: have no idea. But yeah, he walked out of the tent,
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  Speaker 1: got carted to the back. The bigger thing for me
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  Speaker 1: is again just on field, how good he's been. He's
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  Speaker 1: been a leader on and off the field already in camp,
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  Speaker 1: chopping it up with coaches, a lot of a lot
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  Speaker 1: of technique talk and you know, working with guys and
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  Speaker 1: and saying you know, hey, yeah, if the receivers in
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  Speaker 1: this position, this is what you want to do, going
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  Speaker 1: over technique and responsibilities and assignments.
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  Speaker 3: He's been.
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  Speaker 1: He's been sincerely great these first I mean like two
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  Speaker 1: and a quarter days because he went down roughly kind
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  Speaker 1: of early on day three, but he again, he was
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  Speaker 1: the best player on both sides of the ball for
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  Speaker 1: me the first two days of camp, and he's been great.
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  Speaker 1: So it would suck if he goes down, But obviously
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  Speaker 1: we'll keep our ears to the ground and if anything
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  Speaker 1: drops while we're doing this episode, feel free you put
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  Speaker 1: it into the chat.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, CJ.
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  Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson has been great, best player for the Bills
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  Speaker 1: in training camp on both sides of the ball. He
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  Speaker 1: goes down today, now we're all kind of just waiting
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  Speaker 1: on pins and needles and hoping he's healthy. He he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna make a big difference in this defense already, you
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  Speaker 1: know him, him and Coole Bishop. And this will tind
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  Speaker 1: of the next piece. I want to talk about just
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  Speaker 1: what we're seeing from the coverage. You know, more match coverage,
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  Speaker 1: more man coverage, more single high stuff. But CJ and
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  Speaker 1: Bishop have been so good, like I mentioned, you know,
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  Speaker 1: matching on inbreakers, cross and routes, man covering on guys.
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  Speaker 1: That athleticism, that pairing bat that back there and how
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  Speaker 1: they fit together is a real potential benefit and bonus
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  Speaker 1: for this Bills team this year. And they've looked good
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  Speaker 1: already in camp. Granted it's only you know, small sample size.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting today the Bills started to
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  Speaker 1: work in some dime on defense, six defensive backs for
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  Speaker 1: those who don't know when they would do that, which
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  Speaker 1: was really cool. Uh, Cole Bishop was going down as
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  Speaker 1: like another slot player, apex player, and Geno Stone was
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  Speaker 1: one of the deep safeties. So you know, if we're
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  Speaker 1: playing the you know, say it's a two x two
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  Speaker 1: formation to kind of make it easy for everybody. If
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  Speaker 1: it's two by two formation for the offense, right, you've
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  Speaker 1: got Christian Benford and Max Harriston is your outside corners. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you've got d Alford and Cole Bishop as your two
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  Speaker 1: slot players or your apex players. Apex is just another
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  Speaker 1: way of saying, uh, the first man inside the outside corner.
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  Speaker 1: So d and Bishop as your your two slot players
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  Speaker 1: or your apex players. And then the two deep safeties
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  Speaker 1: were Gino Smith and c J and Gardner Johnson. That's
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  Speaker 1: what Dime looked like when CJ was out there. The
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  Speaker 1: linebacker in Dime Andrew was Torol Bernard, and we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get into Bernard and some other linebacker stuff in a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. And then when CJ went down, they kept
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  Speaker 1: Cole Bishop as that apex or slot spot. And then
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  Speaker 1: it was Geno Stone and Damar Hamlin who were the
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  Speaker 1: safeties in the back.
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  Speaker 3: And then when they were in nickel or base when CJ.
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  Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson went down, Geno Stone and Damar Hamlin kind
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  Speaker 1: of rotated in and out with one another with Cole Bishop.
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  Speaker 1: When CJ first went down, it was Hamlin who was
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  Speaker 1: in there with the ones, and then the next segment
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  Speaker 1: of team, it was Geno Stone in there with the
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  Speaker 1: ones with Cole Bishop.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously this is a potential, you know, trickle down effect,
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  Speaker 1: cascading effective. CG. Gardner Johnson goes down and impacts obviously
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  Speaker 1: the starting lineup in a significant way. You have to
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  Speaker 1: thrust Geno Stone or Tomorrow Hamlin, which I know a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people are stressed about, into potentially a starting role,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe it's Jayleen Kilgore time we'll see. And then
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  Speaker 1: obviously that impacts you know, your dying packages, some of
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  Speaker 1: your versatility, a lot of stuff right there. There is
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  Speaker 1: no if it's genal Stone, if it's jamor Hamlin, if
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  Speaker 1: it's even if it's Jayalen Kilgore, you're not gonna be
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  Speaker 1: able to do the same stuff that Bishop and CJ
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  Speaker 1: were gonna do together because of CJ's experience, his effectiveness,
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  Speaker 1: and again just how much of a communicator and adjuster
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  Speaker 1: and leader he's been on the field. He has been
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  Speaker 1: getting everybody set on the back end. He has been
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  Speaker 1: barking out the calls when everything's been happening. When you
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  Speaker 1: know when ships are happening, motions are happening, change of formation,
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  Speaker 1: he's communicating that. Jalen Kilgore has been largely working with
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  Speaker 1: the third team. I didn't see I saw some posts
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  Speaker 1: I forget who it was from. I saw some posts
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  Speaker 1: that said he had multiple interceptions today.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't see that, So.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not true. I'm just saying I
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  Speaker 1: didn't see the multiple interceptions. I also think some of
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  Speaker 1: the pass breakups he's been credited with through the first
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  Speaker 1: two days of camp were past interference, and he also
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  Speaker 1: got like he's I don't want to be like negative Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: but uh, there's been some deep throws that he's gotten
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  Speaker 1: pass breakups on where he got beat and his eyes
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  Speaker 1: were in the wrong spot and guys got behind him,
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  Speaker 1: and then the ball was underthrown, so it gave him
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  Speaker 1: a chance to make a play on the ball. And
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  Speaker 1: then his play on the ball was more past interference
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  Speaker 1: than it was anything else. But the athleticism is still showing.
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  Speaker 1: He had a really nice play underneath.
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  Speaker 3: On day two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yesterday, I think on Jackson Hawes, Jackson Hawes ran
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  Speaker 1: like a hitch route from the slot and kill Gore
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  Speaker 1: was it was it was? I think it was cover three.
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  Speaker 1: Kil Gore was the down safety covering the flat and
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  Speaker 1: he saw it, triggered on it, punched right through the hands,
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  Speaker 1: got a nice pass breakup, So we'll see. Yeah. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Kilgore's athleticism is showing. It's been nice to see. I
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen the things that from today that others reported,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the interceptions and all the plays on the ball.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't see that today and some of the other
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  Speaker 1: stuff like earlier in the week that you know he
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  Speaker 1: was getting credited for. He still made a play, but
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  Speaker 1: for me it would have been past interference. And even
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  Speaker 1: before that he got beat. Guys are getting behind him
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  Speaker 1: and and that's still not God. I don't think he's
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  Speaker 1: ready yet, but the athleticism is there. I'm super excited
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  Speaker 1: to see him in the preseason a ton. I would love,
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  Speaker 1: no disrespect to DeMar Hamlin or anybody else, I would
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  Speaker 1: love to see Jaylen Kilgore play every single snap at
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  Speaker 1: safety in the preseason. Like I Gino Stone doesn't necessarily
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  Speaker 1: need the reps. He kind of is what he is.
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  Speaker 1: Hamlin is what he is. You know, you'll give them
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  Speaker 1: both reps to see what happens. But I would much
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  Speaker 1: rather get Jaylen kil wore as many reps as physically
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  Speaker 1: possible in the preseason and kind of speed up his
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: development timeline as quickly as possible to kind of tap
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: into who and what he is kind of see from there,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: tying into that linebacker conversation as I noted a bunch today.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: So Torol Bernard and Dorian Williams have both largely been
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: out for the majority of the offseason. Bernard recovering from
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: his ankle injury or lower body injury from last year.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Dorian picked up I forget what it was like something
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: I've never heard of before. Dorian Williams got like a
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: some kind of knee fracture, like a lateral knee fracture
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: or something that I haven't heard of before. Either. Williams
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: and Bernard have been practicing these first couple of days
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: of camp, but not really taking seven on seven reps
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: and not really taking anything for team. And when I
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: say team, I mean like eleven on eleven in case
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: anybody doesn't know what I mean when I say team
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: or when I post about it. So it's largely been
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Caleb E. Larms Or and Keantha Jenkins as the you know,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: the starting linebackers, the linebackers.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: With the ones on defense today.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Terrel Bernard and Dorian Williams started off in seven on
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: seven together and then when team came around Dorian Williams
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: wasn't in for that, but it was Terrel Bernard and
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Caleb Alarms Or but what so that in and of
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: itself is notable, but it could have. If we want
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: to play Devil's advocate, and we still can, it could
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: have been. You know, maybe Williams isn't up to speed yet.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: They're still working him back in a little by little.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: But so much of the conversation this offseason has been
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: those two guys being out and how it's given Caleb
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Alarms or the opportunity to see all these reps with
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: the ones and get all these reps, get all these reps,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: get all these reps, and you know, it's been reported
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: by coaches, multiple guys have been you know, said, you know,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: he's taking advantage of it. Jim Lendard talked about him
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: on the day two training camp presser, saying he's taken
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: advantage of it. You know, he plays with low emotion.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: You know, he's a leader, he's a communicator, all this
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Right, The big note from today for
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: me was not that it was Or and Bernard that
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: were out there. It was that Bernard was at the
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: week sidelinebacker spot or the will and Caleb elarms Or
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: was the mic that in and of itself is notable.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: And then even at the end of practice when they
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: were kind of doing more of the walkthrough stuff, it
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: was Bernard and Dorian Williams that were out there together.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: But again Bernard was at the will, Dorian was at
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: the mic to rel Bernard. In both situations with Kilgore
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: or with the kilber Uh, with elarms Or and with Dorian,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Bernard is the one calling the plays still, but he
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: was more of the weak side linebacker. He was more
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: of that will. So when they're running three by one right,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: you have your corner to the three receiver side, you've
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: got d Alford to the three receiver side, You've got
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Caleb alarms Or to the three receiver side, and then
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: you've got to roll Bernard backside kind of one on
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: one with the back depending on kind of what covers
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: your playing or what they're doing. I think being a will,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: as a lot of other people have said, it just
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: suits him so much better. Torel Bernard, I mean he's undersized, right,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: smaller stature, smaller frame, not a big guy, not a
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: heavy guy, but a good blitzer. He triggers well, he
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: reads things well, he can cover running backs coming out
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: of the backfield. I think playing is that weak side
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: linebacker suits him much better than being kind of more
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: in traffic, more in that middle spot of the field,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: not even just from a pure size standpoint, It is
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: just from a skill set standpoint, right, Like we we've
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: talked about it this offseason, how Jim Leonards defense is
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: a potential upgrade for Torel Bernard in terms of scheme fit,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: because you are going to see more movement, you are
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: going to see more blitzing, you are going to see
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: more man coverage. So getting Bernard in a spot where
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: he can take advantage of that more and doesn't have
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: to be in the traffic as much, and his his
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: role isn't I don't want to say simpler, meaning like
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: it's dumb down, but simpler in terms of responsibility, and
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: he can just trigger and be shot out of a
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: cannon and be in kind of more of these isolated
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: responsibility aspects, not because he can't handle, like he's an
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: extremely smart player, but I think it fits his skill
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: set a little bit more so. I thought that was
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: really notable. We'll see if that continues going forward. I
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: think it's something to note and watch for come scrimmage time,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: preseason time, even more training camp time. Who's lining up
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: at linebacker together? Has everything we've been seeing purely a
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: function of you know, Dorririan just has been healthy. When
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: he is, it's his spot to lose. When Dorrian's one
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: hundred percent, does he get you know, dropped in above
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: e or is he behind him? Is he or going
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: to be the mic? Is Dorny in the mic? Is
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Bernard saying it? Will is Bernard going back to mic?
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Are we going to see kind of more of a
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: fluid movement type of thing?
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Because yeah, it was.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Bernard was weak side regardless if it was you know,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: if we're if we're calling the strong side the passing
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: strength or we're calling it the run strength side. Either way,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Bernard was playing is more or that week side backer
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: for the entirety of the day to day. I didn't
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: really note it in the first segment of team because
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I was looking at other things, But all through the
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: entire second segment of team and the third it was
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Bernard at weakside linebacker NonStop, and then again even with
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Dorian Williams at the end going from there. So something
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: to note, you know again, I think to ro Bernard
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: is going to be a starter in this defense. As
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I pulled my phone out to go through more of
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: my notes, It's just gonna be a matter of where
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: you know he fits in, how he fits in, so
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: on and so forth. Also on the defensive side, I
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: noted this on Day one and Day two and Day three.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Rookie cornerback, undrafted corner out of Arkansas, can I Walker
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: number forty one? If you are at training camp or
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: at the scrimmage next week or in the preseason, can
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I Walker just keeps making plays like he looks really good.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: He's rolling with the twos been pretty much Christian Benford
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: and Max Hairston as the ones at outside corner, and
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: then the twos have been davison Ingguanosen and CANi Walker.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Walker's looked great like man coverage, match coverage stuff, his
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: own coverage, and some spatial awareness. I noted it today
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: that I'm gonna at some point this weekend, I'm gonna
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: go back and watch a bunch of his tape. He
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: was in Arkansas this past year, but he got hurt.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I think like three games in. He was in Oklahoma
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: before that, I'm and I think part of it too is,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: you know, the Bills have this habit of finding you know,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: late round players that are able to make an impact.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: You know, even a corner Christian Benford famously, you know,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: a sixth round pick and came in and did a
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: great job. Even you know, I know, Levi Wallace isn't sexy,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: and Dan Jackson is you know, persona non grata at
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: this point, but like Levi Wallace being an undrafted corner
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: and playing as much and doing a serviceable and viable
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: job for the Bills as long as he did Dan
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Jackson even just being a CB three or a CB
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: four at spots being able to work in a bit,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the Bills have had success with these late round dbs
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: or even you know DB's that are kind of more
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: late round quote unquote in free agency. You know Micah
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Hyde granted different regime now, but you know Micah Hyde was.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: More of a punt returner.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: And a nickel guy in Green Bay, and then he
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: comes to Buffalo, He's an All Pro safety. Jordan Poyer
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: was a cast off, not really thought of much leaving Cleveland.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: He becomes an all Pro safety here. It just seems
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: like you know, and I know a lot of that
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: with Sean McDermott doing a great job and getting those
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: guys up, but it just seems like there's something in
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the water with like late round guys and the Brandon
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Bean era kind of making an impact even on the
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: offensive side to a degree as well, like Shakira being
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: a fifth round pick. And I'm not here saying, you know,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: can I Walker is the next Christian Benford, But man,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: he looks really good. And what's been nice to see
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: is even when the like the second group of corners
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: or defenders have worked in so even when it's Igbinosin
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: and CANi Walker at corner with the twos, the ones
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: have still been in there for the bill.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: So can I Walker is.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Covering Khalil Shakir and Josh Palmer and Keyan Coleman and
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Skyler Bell. It's not like he's covering you know, wide
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: receiver eight and wide receiver nine. He's covering twos and threes,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: but he's also covering some ones. Can I Walker has.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Looked really good.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get into his college tape at some point
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: this weekend and kind of see what's up. But he is,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: he's a name to keep an eye out for.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: You.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: You know, we know Christian Benford is not gonna get
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of snaps this preseason. I'm interested to see
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: how much Max Harston plays this preseason because again, he
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: didn't really get a training camp last year, didn't get
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: a preseason at all. Last year, played a decent chunk
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: of time in the regular season, then got hurt at
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: the end. So I wonder how much time Hairston gets.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: But you know, Davis Nigbinosen's gonna get a bunch of snaps,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: And I think can I Walker's gonna get a bunch
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: of snaps at corner. So someone to keep an eye
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: out for number forty one in your programs, maybe number
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: one in your hearts, But yeah, can I Walker continues
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: to make plays. Where is this from Charles? Charles said,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: are you buying that Kincaid put on more muscle? So
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: now the Bills are gonna ask him to block more?
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I am buying that he put on more muscle. I'm
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: still waiting to see if the Bills are gonna ask
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: him to block more. I did note on day one
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: there was a look towards the end of practice. It
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: was a eleven personnel nub tight end formation, so into
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: the boundary, So Dalton Kincaid was the inline tight end.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: He was the only tight on the field in line
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: tight end, lined up right next to Dion Dawkins into
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: the boundary.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Opposite side of him were the three wide receivers.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: And they ran the ball and Dalton Kincaid came off
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: the line. It was him versus Mike Dana. If I
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: had to call it, I would say Dana beat him.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: But I did think it was interesting that they lined
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: him up only tight end on the field. They put
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: him in line nub tight end formation. I love a
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: good nub tight end. My favorite thing is to run
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: towards that nub tight end because usually what you'll get
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: is either a numbers advantage out there, or the defense
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: will have a corner to that side, and that's an
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: advantage in theory in the run game. So it's either
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: a legit math numbers advantage or it's a body types
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: of personnel advantage. So I love a good nub tight end,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: and they had him there. We'll see if it matters
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: or what we'll see going forward. I do think it's interesting,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of in the grand scheme of the
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: tight ends. I would like Dalton Dalton Kinkaid to be
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: a viable in line blocker. Does he have to be, No,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: he can still be more than viable pass game threat
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: even if he can't be in line. But if he
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: can line up in line and he can block, it
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: just opens up the menu so much more. You're not
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: siloed as much. You're not put into this box where
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: the defense knows, Okay, Kinkaid's in there, he's not going
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: to be in line, Oh he is, Well, they're not
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: going to run to him. Okay. If they do run
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: to him, it's advantage us. Right. There's all these kind
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: of mitigating factors to him as an overall value piece,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: And if he is more viable as a run blocker,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: there's more alignments that you can put him into. There's
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: more uncertainty you create for the defense. There's a significant
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: exponential increase in terms of his value to the offense
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: and what he does for the offense and the bunds
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: you can put a defense in. That being said, Knox
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: is more than capable as an inline blocker. Jackson Hawes
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: obviously is phenomenal in that regard, So I don't think
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: it's a necessity for the offense. I do just hope
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: it's something to help Kincaid elevate. I still do think that,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: and as Charles you say, I just want more Kinkaid
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: on the field.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: However, the Bills need to make it happen.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I know the addition of DJ Moore is the big
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: talk for the pass game and wide receivers, YadA, YadA.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I still think the best weapon in the Bills pass
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: game is Dalton Kaka. I think he's the best mismatch creator.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I think he's a problem for Nichols. I think he's
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: a problem for big Nickels in terms of safeties, you know,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: trying to cover him. He's a problem for lineback. Was
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: trying to cover him. He dropped Cold Bishop today. Cold
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Bishop had him in one on one out of the slot.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Kinkaid kind of turned him inside out with a stem
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: and Bishop tripped up, fell down to the ground. Kincaid
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: was wide open on a corner route, like you have
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: to be. You have to have some size, athleticism and
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: technique as a defender to be able to cover Dalton Kincaid.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: And he's also good at finding space and zone and
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: reading coverage, so I think Kinkaid is, like I'm just
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: saying to say the same thing that Jpacosta said when
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: he came on the show last year in the offseason.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I think Dalton Kinkaid is the tip of the spear
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: when it comes to the pass game. So the more
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: he gets on the field exactly your point, Charles, in
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: whatever way, shape or form, I think that's good. And
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: the more the more the more you get him on
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: the field and the more variety of ways you can
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: use him gives him more value, obviously, but it gives
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: the Bills offense more value and puts the defense into
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: a bind because him being on the field isn't necessarily
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: a tell and your usage isn't capped or limited when
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: you have him.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: So I'm excited for that.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna stay with some pass catchers just
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: for now. I'm just literally apologies. I look down and
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: just going through notes and everything. DJ Moore's look good.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I set in on social the first couple of days.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I know this is like corny, but even even just
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: watching him and stretching, he just moves so much differently
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: than everyone else, Like he has an explosive floatiness to him,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: like he glides and floats, but he's also got like
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: juice and explosion and power in his steps.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Still not the most precise outrunner, but whatever.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Alan's had some good throws to him on some out
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: routes on a dig over the middle yesterday or I'm
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: sorry on day two for a touchdown. They've had some
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: manufactured touches for him, some gadgetry stuff. He also had
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: some really nice fluorescent green cleats on today that I
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: really liked.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: I hope he continues with that look.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: It was a good look. Also makes him feel faster.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I know that's not a real thing, but that's how
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: he felt.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Skyther Bell had some.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Nice catches today with the first team, a nice layered
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: ball from Josh Allen between the second and third levels
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: of the defense on a dig. If I remember correctly,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Josh Palmer looked good today. Got behind Big Banocan on
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: the boundary. I don't know how he got behind Igbanosan.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I didn't see that part. I was looking at something else.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know if if Iggnosin's eyes were in the
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: wrong spot, or if he just got beat, or there's
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: miscommunication in coverage, but Palmer got behind igbanosin Alan put
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: it out in front of him, and Palmer jumped and
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: stretched out and made a really nice catch with a
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: ball landed on like the more of the fingers, like
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: where the fingers meet the hand more so than the hand.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Came out and made a really nice like not fingertip catch,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: but a fingers based catch that was really nice. Palmer
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: looked good today, really crisp routes, really sharp ro outrunner.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I know what he was last year, and I'm gonna
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: talk a little bit on both sides of my mouth. Obviously,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: the injury is one thing I said it last year, Like,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I didn't think Josh Palmer was the deep threat that
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: he was being made out to be.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Everybody was throwing out these metrics.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, he's top ten in this, and he's top this
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: and that, YadA, YadA, YadA. I didn't think he was
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: the deep threat that people were making him out to be.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I also didn't think he was suited to be like
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: a top of the depth chart wide receiver. And what
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I'm about to say is still probably gonna anger people
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: because he you know, he got paid a decent chunk
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: of change. Uh, in a lot of people's eyes but
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Josh Palmer is like the wide receiver three or maybe
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: wide receiver four in this offense is going to be
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: really nice. Like he's a really useful piece. I still
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: think he's probably the Bill's best wide receiver in terms
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: of beating man coverage from like a route running standpoint,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: because he's a good route runner, really crisp, sharp, decisive routes.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: He knows how to snap stuff off, he's good with
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: his stems, and the addition of DJ Moore opens things.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Up for Palmer.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: And if you've got DJ Moore, I'm not going to
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: the traditional sense, but in terms of your targets or
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: like the guys who you're are the top of the
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: pecking order for your wide receivers. If your wide receivers
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: are DJ Moore, Khalil Shakir, Josh Palmer, and then Kincaid
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: stays healthy, that's that's that's a cool top four. You're fine,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: especially with a run game like the Buffalo Bills have, right,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: the run game is really the thing that's gonna stir
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: the drink. You've got Josh Allen, I think that's a
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: fine grouping. Uh And I just think Josh Palmer's looked
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: really good. He looked really good in drills. He looked
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: really good in team. He's a really good route runner,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: especially in the underneath in the intermediate, which I think
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: is better for him to succeed. Now you can send
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: DJ more deep and if DJ Moore, DJ Moore might
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: run right past this guy and you can chuck it
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: up to DJ Moore more or he's gonna carry some
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: bodies with him and open up the intermediate for Dalton
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Kinkaid or Josh Palmer, Khalus Shakir or Kean Coleman, whatever
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I think. Uh. I also think what's interesting too, Charles
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: says Palmer. I think lines up as wide receiver two
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: when in twelve, but probably fourth and targets behind DJ,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Shakiri and Kinkai. I think that's fair. I also think
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: what's interesting to note, and I like this comment. I
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: think a big thing that's interesting to note, right is
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: who's the wide receiver that they feel most confident in
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: with being a blocker and doing the mccollins and Tyrell
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Shavers stuff. Where you've got those condensed formations and you're
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: in you know, twelve personnel or eleven personnel, and we
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: would see multiple receivers like near the tight ends and
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: they're running duo and those receivers are inserting and whatever
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: personnel grouping they are. You know that Mac Collins was
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: a weapon as a blocker as a wide receiver. Tyrol
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Shavers was a weapon as a blocker as a wide receiver.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Who fills that role?
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Is it? Josh Palmer is a key On Coleman is
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: a Khalil Shakir. He's gotten better as a blocker. I
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: would love for it to be Khalil Shakir because then
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: you can start to tie in some fun insert play
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: action stuff like the Rams do with Pukinakua.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: I would love for it to be Shakir.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: But even if it's not, like, I wonder what that
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: looks like because part of being a wide receiver for
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: the Bills the past several years, with how good their
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: run game is and the way they run the ball,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: part of being a top of the depth chart wide
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: receiver for the Bills is being able to run block.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: So I wonder who that receiver is that they lean on,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: right like. Part of what helped Shaver's carve out a
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: role was his ability as a blocker, and that mattered
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: to lockdown the stretch now that it's not him because
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: he's hurt, and it's not Mac Collins because he's still elsewhere.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Who is that? And I think that's an interesting wrench
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: to kind of throw into the snap share or usage
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: conversation when it comes to wide receiver. But yeah, Iowa,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, Nigel sa is gonna be Dj Moore.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna ask DJ Moore to be
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: the guy inserting on duo and like fitting up a
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: safety or the nickel. I guess they could line him
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: there in some looks and maybe throw them across the
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: formation and do different stuff, or ask him to block
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: time and time again.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: But I don't think they're gonna use him.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna use DJ Moore as the
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: dirty work mashing wide receiver like Tyrol Shavers was and
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Matt Collins was. Trousa's exactly ant. That's why I view
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Palmero over Shakir. But could be key on too. I
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: get it, I geah, I get it.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: I get exactly what you're saying. Yeah, it'll be, it'll
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: be interesting.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I'm interested to see. I know knowas hiss, DJ Moore
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: will have a bigger impact for us than Diggs. Stefan
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Diggs was like a top five, top three wide receiver
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: in the league when he was here with the Bills
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: those first several years. I would love if DJ Moore
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: had that impact. I don't think he has the skill
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: set for that type of impact. I do think he'll
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: have some good production. But Stefan Diggs was like arguably
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: the best route runner in football at that time.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: So that that's a that's a that's a high high
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: high bar.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: To set high high bar. Two set. Nicholas says, Palmer
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: in a reduced role parentheses, if he's healthy, should be
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: a good contributor. Definitely not out on him. I I
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: agree by something else on Chad. Chad said, how about
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Bell meaning Skyl Belle some good catches today, rolled with
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: the ones a little bit. I've noticed him more an
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: individual than I have in team. I'm kind of waiting
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: for the preseason to kind of see what comes in
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: from there.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: I thought key On Coleman has also looked good as well.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I know on day one someone put I forget who
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: a video out of like he dropped the first pass
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: and seven on seven, but then they went back to
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: him on the next play was a back shoulder throw
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: against Max Harriston, and he made a really nice catch
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: on the sideline on a ball from Josh Allen. He
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: held the red line, adjusted his body, made a catch.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: I think ke On has largely looked good. He and
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Skyler Bell both stayed after practice today with wide receivers
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: coach Drew Terrell and Josh Allen. They were going over
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: you know, hand usage and footwork and body positioning in
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: their route stems and then some of their release package techniques,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: and then Allen was throwing them you know, routes left
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: and right and getting reps in. So it was interesting
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: that Coleman stayed after Bell stayed after Well, I think
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: the receivers will look good again.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: It's there's no pads right now.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: So a lot of my conversation here is somewhat tempered
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: because pads haven't been on, especially for the trenches. Like
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not really looking at offensive line and defensive line
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: right now because there's no pads on. I'm not gonna
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: be like, oh man, this guy was getting blocked, this
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: guy was getting in like this all this this run
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: play look great. Bullets aren't live and there's no pads like,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: so the trenches are definitely kind of tempered for me
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: in terms of what the glean from that, and even
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: some larger stuff overall for everyone. But I thought Kean
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Coleman has looked good. Yes, I know he had that
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: drop to start seven on seven on day one, but
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Coleman's looked good. He's found some space, found some openings,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: looks athletic. He's had good hands. He's had a couple drops.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: But I would say more more catches than drops, for sure,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: and more better catches than drops as well. Bill's fan
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: seventy eight eighty three says more secure in a healthy
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Palmer is a top half of the league wide receiver room.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Fans aren't giving it enough credit. I don't think it's
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: top half. I think you can. I think it's like
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: sixteen to twenty. It's definitely better and it's fine. I
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: don't think they're a top half of the of because
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: for me, DJ Moore is not a true one. He's
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: more of a high end two. Palmer is more of
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: a three Shakirs, more of a two three. I don't
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: think they have a true one. I forgot, oh, I
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: get it in my notes somewhere because Kendall and I
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: like kind of ranked Bills or uh yeah, where the
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: wide receiver room falls in with receiving groups across the league. Yeah,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: that's fair.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know I wouldn't say top half. I would
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: I would.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I would put them as high as maybe like seventeenth
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: or eighteenth. I think they're somewhere like sixteen to twenty.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: All right, Uh okay, I've noticed.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: A lot more in breaking routes from the wide receivers
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: this year.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I'm interested how much that like continues, like a lot
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: of digs, not Stefan diggs, digs in terms of the
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: route like in breaker routes also sometimes referred to as
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: a basic but you know, deep digs, you know, fifteen
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: to twenty or ones around like ten to fifteen have
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: continued to happen, and that especially to DJ Moore. But
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I feel like we haven't seen a lot of those
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: routes previously in the Bills offense. So I am definitely
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: uh noting that. Also defensively, a bunch of man coverage,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: single high coverage, what match coverage is coming from the defense.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I also think something has been interesting to note. You know,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: defense is usually ahead of offenses at this time in
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: the in training camp. But I thought the defense has
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: looked really good from a coverage standpoint, you know, packing
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: guys into you know, in between the numbers, putting guys
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: into passing windows, squeezing passing windows, choking off routes, you know,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: staying attached to wide receivers and tight ends hips, being
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: in good position and even if they get beat, it's
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: more due to a good catcher, great ball placement than
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: it is somebody running Scott Free wide open. It's been
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: cool watching Jim Leonard be really hands on with the
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: DB's in terms of the safeties and the corners, which
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I think is expected, right, Like Jim Leonard was a dB,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: that's you know, kind of his position of focus for
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: the defense, even though he's great from a front structure perspective,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: and how he's going to attack uh with the with
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: the with the first and second levels of the defense,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: especially coming from that Rex Ryan school of thought initially,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: but yeah, working with CJ. Garner, Johnson, Cole, Bishop d Alford,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Christian Benford like very hands on, and then Java Li,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: the Bill's corners coach, has been hands on with Leonard
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: like those who have been attached to the hip a bunch.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: There's been a lot of like defensive back conversation amongst
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: each other in terms of the players amongst each other
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: with Jim Leonard, with Java Li, and it's always it's
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: cool to watch Leonard and the players, the lie and
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: the players and then Leonard and the Lye all act
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: out all the time like what they're doing, like you know,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: someone says something is like there. There was one where
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Alford and CJ. Garner Johnson were telling something to Jim
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Leonard and they were going over, uh, like technique. It was,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: you know, body positioning and then talking about you know,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: based on the hand gestures and what they were doing
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: like okay, if this guy's lined up here and he's
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: running this route, you know I'm playing my technique like this.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: You know, my hand is going here, my feet are
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: going here, my eyes are going here. And then Leonard
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: you know, had something you feedback for that, and then
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Alford was saying something kind of like yeah, but what
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: about X, Y and Z. They finished that conversation. Leonard
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: then went to Java Li and acted out for Java
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: LII what d Alford acted out for him, and then
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Leonard gave his feedback almost kind of bell. The from
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: the vibe I got and the understanding I got was
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: more so like Jim Leonard having this coaching moment with
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: d Alford and d all For being like.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but what about this, or like we're being taught this?
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: And so Jim Leonard went to Java Li and was like, hey,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I was just talking to d He presented me this situation.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: My thought is we should do X, Y and Z.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: He was wondering, you know, thinking like you you were
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: you're teaching A B and C or do you want
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: to do A B and C? Do you think that's
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: better than X, Y and Z. I'm not saying this
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: in any negative way, Like this is just what that
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: conversation looked like. It was just a real football technique,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: responsibility alignment conversation. There's so much of that, so much
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: back and forth between Leonard and Val Leonard and the players,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: the lie and the players. It's been really cool to
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: see a lot of open and honest dialogue it appears,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: and a lot of technique and focusing just good football
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: conversation in between plays, in between drills and between in
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: between segments all that kind of stuff. And I think,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: how Leonard, you know, has the defense operating, and what
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Vali is doing with the corners and just what the
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: two of them believe in. There's just a lot of
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: restricted airspace. Even if it's not man coverage, there's just
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: guys are in the right position. Again, they're squeezing windows,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: They're choking off routes. Man coverage has been good, reading
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: route distributions has been good. There's not guys flying wide open.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Guys are understanding their checks kind of where to get
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: to and how to get there, how to be in
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: the way, and just make life harder for the offense.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Now will see as we go forward and the offense
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: starts to open up a little bit, it's more on
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: the same page, starts to work in different concepts. Again,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: this isn't you know, the offense isn't trying to beat
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: the defense. Guys are installing stuff and trying to figure
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: out their baseline on both sides of the ball and
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: position groups and concepts and everything offensively and defensively. But
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: the defenses look good also at this point again we're
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: in the install phase. We're kind of just working through things.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: A lot of four down stuff for the Bills, a
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: lot of nickel defense. You know, we talked about in
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: the offseason Jim Leonards defense, that tight front base is
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: it is an odd front structure, right, so you're gonna
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: get you know, Bradley Chubb and Greg Russeau on your edges,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: t J. Sanders, and that Oliver is your defensive ends
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: or your two four eyes on the inside shoulder of
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: the tackles, and then Dion Walker is your nose tackle
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: over the center. You might get some different looks between
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: the three interior players. You know, between Oliver Walker and Sanders,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: you might get more like a stronger weak eagle, so
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: or where you're having a full or I, you know,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: a one tech on the on the shoulder or a
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: shade of the center instead of you know, a head
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: of zero tech nose and then you know a three
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I for that other defensive end instead of being instead
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: of being four eyes zero four I, you'll get four
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: I one three. You know, you'll get some shade action
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: from the nose and one of the other defensive ends.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: So things can look a little different on the interior.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: But we talked about, you know, the odd front presentation
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: and that being the base defense for the Bills. But
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: that even with that, at most you were going to
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: see that maybe thirty thirty five percent. So the majority
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: of snaps for this Bill's defense were and are going
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: to be in nickel dime. And with that, you're going
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: to get more four down front So you're going to
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: see more kind of Sean McDermott looking things from a
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: from a structure perspective than you did previously. Now they're
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: going to operate differently within that even if they are
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: in a four down because McDermott is not the same
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: f asophically or from an identity standpoint that Jim Leonard is,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: which again is.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Why I'm so excited about Jim Leonard.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Not to throw shada Sean McDermott, but we're gonna see
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: a healthy amount of nickel this year. I think we're
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: gonna see some dime, but we're still gonna see a
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: bunch of four down fronts. And that was I think regardless,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: but even more so because I don't think the Bills
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: necessarily have the personnel to run a ton of base, right.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: You don't have these kick ass four eyes. You don't
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: have Sebastian Joseph Day, you don't have John Franklin Myers,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: you don't have you know, these guys that are built
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: to live in that world and then also like kick
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: down to a three tech or one tech and your
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: even front stuff like they don't have that. We still
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: don't even know if they necessarily have a nose, right,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: we have to see how Dane Walker.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: Holds up at that spot.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I do think it was notable in Jim Leonard's presser
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: a couple of days ago on day two, when he
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: was asked something about like, oh, you know, when the
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: pads come on, YadA YadA, and Leonard said, you know,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: obviously the true evaluation for the trenches and for everybody
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: comes and the pads come on. And then one of
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: the first questions he presented was, you know, like Dion,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: you know him playing nose, how many snaps do we
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: want to see him at nose, you know, versus something
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: like a four eye. I just thought it was interesting
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: that his brain immediately went right there. Granted, he was
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: asked about the noses, but it was funny that that's
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: exactly where he went. You know. I've continued to say it,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: even if Dion Walker is a fit at nose and
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: they're gonna do a ton of movement stuff with him,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: you can't do movement stuff all the time. At a
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: certain point, he's going to have to be able to
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: hold the point of attack anchor and play gap in
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: a half or two gap at some point and be
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: able to play react attack instead of attack react attack
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: react is more just one gapping movement based stuff. He's
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: going to need to do both. That's just the nature
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: of football, and it's the nature of this defense. That's
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: why again I wanted to pair him with Kiris Tonga,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Roy Lopez. I'd love to trade for Vita Vea right now.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: I would trade for Vita Vea right now and put
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Dean Walker at one of the four eyes, and I
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: think that would be splendid. But we'll see. Yeah, I
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: don't know if they can fit the Vita BA. I
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: mean they can pull some levers with some extensions and
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: some cuts you know, in future things to fit Vita
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Ba in. But you know that's also the cost. When
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: you know you eat all that money for DJ Moore,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: not saying that you know is exactly what happened, if
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: not for DJ Moore, but you have all the DJ
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: more money on the books. It precludes you from being
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: able to make a move like this. For Vita Bay
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: or if somebody does come available. I think that's where
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: those conversations come in of like, oh, you know, who
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: cares what they pay for this player? Like the players great,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: there's nothing to worry about, like who cares? And it's like, well,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: you know, there is an opportunity. Cost resources are finite.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: So if you spend if you only have five dollars
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: and you spend all five dollars on bananas, you can't
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: get any apples or oranges. It's just it doesn't mean
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: bananas are bad, doesn't mean the apples or oranges are good.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: But if you also want apples and oranges or you
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: need one of those things, and you spend all your
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: money on bananas, you don't get anything else. Your resources
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: are finding And that's just not for DJ Moore, that's
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: for anything in general. But yeah, I'm in just did
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: to see.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: What happens when the pads come on.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: And I do think that was notable that Leonards had
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: immediately went to that that knows conversation and that specific
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: element when it comes to Dion Walker going through more notes,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: more notes, I don't know where my where's my day two?
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Trying to find my there's my Day two. Okay, yep,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: more match principles up ticking in breakers. Oh, there's more
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: and more deep ball shots from the Bills offense. Pushing
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: the ball a little downfield. Haven't executed on a ton
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: of them. Overthrows, under throws. I've talked about it multiple
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: times throughout this offseason. The deep ball is going to
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: matter again, not just for the Bills. It's more of
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: like a league trend thing, right, Like, you defe just
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: don't want you to push the ball downfield. They don't
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: want it you to hit explosives through the air. Granted,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: those throws are lower percentage, so it's harder to hit
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: them regularly. But if you can hit those, they make
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: a huge difference. If you're taking you know, seven or
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: eight deep shots a game and you can hit three
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: or four, that's huge. And I don't think that's just
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: for the Bills, think that's league wide. You know, for example,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: you look at the Seahawks. Seahawks defense phenomenal, outrageous in
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: a ton of ways, and you look at a game like,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: you know, who gave the Seahawks trouble? A little bit
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: like going, look what the Buccaneers did against them?
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: I was watching.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Quarterbacks Documentary or whatever it's called on Netflix, and Baker
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Mayfield is just chucking it to a Mecca Buka all
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: the you know, in the seam downfield, they're hitting chunk
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: plays like they were like, Oh, you don't want us
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: to hit explosives downfield. Guess what We're gonna hit explosives downfield?
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: You know those defenses. That's how are gonna have to
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: beat the top tier guys Like they are scheming you.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: They're scheming you to stay underneath so they can rally
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: and tackle and choke you and kill you. So you
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: got to be able to cut them off. You gotta
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: be able to like cut their throat you get. You
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: can't just you know, give the paper cuts and nickel
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: and dime. At some point, you need a good You
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: need a good chunk of flesh that gets taken out.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: You need a good shot or slash. You need to
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: do more than draw a little blood, like you gotta
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: you gotta take a piece off them with you. And
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: so I like the Bills taking some more shots. I
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: like pushing the ball downfield a little bit. I think
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: it's a great way. It's an it's an easy natural thing.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: To pair with play action, and we've seen a bunch
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: of play action from the Bills to start camp this year.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: That's been kind of like the old football adage, you know,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: play action and then send somebody on a deep post
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: or a Yankee concept where you've got you know, that
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: deep post and the crosser underneath. Dak Prescott is awesome
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: at hitting that underneath crosser. Especially that Yankee concept is
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: great against single high coverage, which the Bills can get
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: presented to them a ton because of their ability to
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: run the ball. So I'm thinking there's gonna be more
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: deep shots worked into the offense, especially off of play action.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: But we've seen more deep shots, especially on the second
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: a second day camp, we saw more throws deep, which
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: I was encouraged about. Let's go to day three notes here.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: I think I've spoken on pretty much everyth I'm gonna
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: start to go through the comments and pull up everybody's thoughts, questions, comments,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: concerns as we go through. So if you do have anything,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: start putting it up into the check So I'm gonna
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: start going through and rolling through. Oh I've got Today,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: the running backs were drilling option routes out of the backfield,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: which maybe immediate. I mean, granted, they could have done
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: it anyway, but I immediately thought Pete Carmichael, New Orleans Saints,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: stuff that I had hoped for, like Pierre Thomas, darren
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: S Folls, mark Ingram Alvin Kamara. So they were just
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: drilling option routes, running back, coming out of the backfield,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: reading the leverage of the defender, and you know, if
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: it's inside based taking that route to the flat, or
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: if it's outside base, cutting back across their face and
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: running like a Texas route or an angle route like we'd
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: see Alvin Kamara do a gajillion times a year, which
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: is part of the reason why we so viable and
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: fantasy every single year after year after year. Tight Ends
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: were working in some not some option baseduff, but some
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: coverage reading stuff. Tight Ends coach Rob Boris and another
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: assistant were simulating being like an outside corner and you know,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: an apex player, and then they vary and switch, you know,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: like the corners dropping deep the corner. You know, the
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: corner's bailing and that apex player is getting to the flat.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: You know, simulating like a Cover four or Cover three. Look,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: the corner would sit in cloud and that apex player
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: would drop deep into hooks, so simulating like a cover
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: two type of look. And then the tight ends are
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: reading that coverage, sitting hooking in the space, you know,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: moving to the flat, cutting back across the face to
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: kind of However, whatever route they were running in the
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: concept they were tying it to, and then the quarterbacks
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: and the tight ends are trying to see that at
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: the same time. That was notable as well. But I
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: mentioned the dime. Oh the interior. If I figure on
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: the the gap in half and two gaping aspect that
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: I talked about a minutego, the interior defensive line was
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: drilling and working that in individual today. So more react
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: attack work where they're engaging straight up two gapping. Engage
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: your guy, peek read the running backs track, shed this way,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: shed that way. Uh, you know, getting screws on screws,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: getting your body in the primary gap for gap and
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: a half and then staying in there or shedding and
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: get back to your you're falling back into your secondary gap.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: So we were getting multi gap principles. You know. Again,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: I always try to cause there's two gapping in this
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: gap in half, I just bucketed all this one thing
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: under the react attack bucket because it's easier to say, yeah,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna work backwards here from comments, Charles
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: says you notice any more or less motion from the offense? Uh?
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: And then Andrew also says how much pre snap action
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: from the offense. I'm gonna treat those as one question.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: I would say the same that we've seen before, right,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: I would I would say both the Charles's question and
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Andrew to yours. You're getting motion. You're getting you know,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: in two kinds, right, because I consider them two different things.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: You're getting motion, which is like someone coming in motion
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: and staying that way and the snap happens. Or a
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: motion with a reset where someone motions across right and
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: then settles in. You know, someone is the outside receiver
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: into the boundary. Alan gives the signal that person motions
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: across and becomes the number two receiver and the slot
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: on the other side gets set. We run a play,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: or a tight end is lined up in the slot
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: to the left, Alan gives him the queue. He steps off,
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: moves like, becomes in line on the right side. Right,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: those I can if someone's motioning and then just changing
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: their alignment and getting set.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: That's more of a reset to me.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Both. So we're seeing motion and we're seeing resets tight
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: ends receivers. We're also seeing motion right before the snap,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: so essentially like a late motion or a motion that
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: leads right into the snap. So someone gets motion, and
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: it's not just motion, let's go all the way across
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: the formation, it's you know, someone kind of more of
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: a spread look, and let's motion that number one wide
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: receiver in and right when they're behind or inside that
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: number two wide receiver, we're snapping it using motion to
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: kind of create more leverage advantage or spatial advantages for receivers.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: And then what's cool, the bills are also kind of
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: tying that into you know, selling routes and deceptions. So
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: on one, DJ Moore is the outside receiver. He motions
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: in comes just inside the number two receiver, Alan snaps
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: it and he keeps motioning so kind of like it
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: gives him like a little slingshot effect going into the snap.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Snap happens. DJ Moore takes off like he's gonna run
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: in over and then he stops and he pops it
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: back out. He snaps it back outside, turns genostone inside
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: out and is wide open. So yeah, I would still
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: say motion is a heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy heavy thing,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: uh in the offense. I think motion is a non
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: negotiable at this point for most offenses in the NFL,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: especially the top ones. But Andrew to your point in
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: Charles's point, yeah, I think the same amount of motion,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: but I think it's a mix of motion and resets.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: And then I think when they're doing it kind of
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: right before the snap or right on the snap to
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: give the defense as little time as possible to adjust,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: which is something I think all offenses should also be doing.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Like it's nice to do motion, it's nice to do resets,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: but do them and then snap the ball, give the
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: defense as little of a chance to see what picture
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: has changed, and then do something different or adjust and
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: operate accordingly.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: So I like that they're you know, even.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: If there's like fifteen seconds left on the play clock, right,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: they're moving at thirteen seconds and they're snapping the ball
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: at eleven or snapping the ball at ten, rather than
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: moving at thirteen and snapping the ball at five. Right,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: let's give the defense as little time as possible, which
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: is what I like. Charles's four by one looks for
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: the rage last preseason. Any updates there, No, I think
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: trying to think of how many I've seen enough time,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: I head no. I think most stuff has been three
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: by one with the back more often than not to
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: the solo receiver side. So if we're going off eligibles,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: it's more of like a three by two, but one
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: of the two is the running back in the backfield.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Condensed formations still the same. I saw somebody asked that
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Angel all of you also asked that. Yeah, condensed formations
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: are still a thing. I do think there's a little
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: more spread. The bills are working in some more spread.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not just saying that because I kind of predicted it.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: I think more teams are gonna do that this year.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: But yeah, there's a I do think there's been some
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: more spread. I don't think a ton of four by
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: one stuff. Definitely not enough that I've made note of it.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: I think most stuff has been your two by two
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: and your your three by one stuff and three by one,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: both in terms of like bunch and also just three
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: eligibles to one side, one to the other. Where am
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I hold I wanted to go back?
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: This comment is, how was the first team safety nickel
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: rotation looking so before CJ. Gardner Johnson went down, it
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: was good. It was CJ, it was Bishop and d Alford.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: They all looked really good. D Alfred, I should also
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: mention as well, had some several really good flashes and
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: coverage these first several days, so he's looked good once
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: and then in dime. As I mentioned earlier, it was
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Gino and Gino, Stone and CJ as the deep safeties,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: and then Cole, Bishop and d Alford. Is your two
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: apex players or your you know your slot guys. Uh.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: I'll see all the comments that I made with the
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: apples and orange, just thinking, oh that is good.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: There's always money in the ban stand. Well done, guys,
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: well done, and then everybody's knocking the.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Apples and oranges. That's funny, that's funny. Uh. Noah says,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: I feel like Zaine Durant will be the at Olive replacement.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: He essentially is like Ed's back up. It's really like
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: Landed from an odd from perspective, it's Landon and TJ,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: and then Ed and Zane. But I still think the
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: top three are Ed and then Landing TJ. In some
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: aspect I'm waiting to see when the pads come on
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: for Zane Durant. Again, that's been my thought for a
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: lot of the trench stuff.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: I haven't I.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Haven't watched a ton of offensive line defensive line aspects
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: because with the pads on him, I'm just not going
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: to do that. I'm not gonna say like, oh, this
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: guy's been you know, even someone who like Andre Jones Junior,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: who's been called up a bit for the Bills every
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: once in a while the past couple of years. He's
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: been living in the backfield these first three days of
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: camp as an edge rusher. He no matter who he's against,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: it's mainly been second and third teamers. He keeps winning
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: and keeps getting into the backfield for quote unquote like
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: would be sacks. But I want to see that happen
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: when the pads come on. Same thing, like, even if
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: an offensive lineman's blocking, great, cool, let's see it when
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: the pads come on. Oh, this guy's really disruptive against
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: the run in the pass. Is a defensive lineman great
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: or an edge rusher great? What happens when the pads
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: come on. So I don't have a ton of feedback
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: on Zane Duran Right now, I'm waiting for the pads
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: and I'm waiting for the preseason. More often than not,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Oh Pop says, uh, actually go to eighty four for life,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: who said just checking in as the bringing update on CJ.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: I have not heard anything since we started this stream
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: about an hour ago. It's the Bills have not given
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: anything official. Pop says, what defensive position is the top
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: need to replace her get better at right now? If
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: CJ Garnder Johnson is hurt for the year or some
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: amount of time, it's safety. It's safety. If not in
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: CJ's fine, I think it's nose tackle. I think you
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: need a I think you need a run based nose tackle.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Doesn't mean it has to be a big guy, but
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: you need a run based nose tackle who's or run
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: or a run based defensive end who can play in
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: the odd front looks and it could also be somebody
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: who and again I want to keep saying this a
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: bunch the odd front defensive ends. So your four eyes
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: at Oliver Landon Jackson, t J. Sanders, Ain Durant, those
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: are the same guys that are going to be the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: defensive tackles in the even front looks so the one
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: tech and the three tech stuff, right, I think they
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: still need a run based interior defender. I honestly, maybe
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: even two. But I think that's where they need to
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: get better at first. It doesn't have to be a
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: huge guy, right, doesn't mean they have to give Vitavey up.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: But you could get like a DJ Jones or it
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: could have been Sebastian Joseph Day and free agency this
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: past offseason. Right. So I'm gonna say that because that's
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: what I've been chirping at all year. I think they
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: need to get better at that spot. Part of me
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: wanted to say linebacker, but I like how Caleb Elramzor
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: has looked and Keanta Jenkins has actually looked fun too,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: like he's been in good He's gotten beat with some throws,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: but he's been in good position. The length is showing up,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: and I've noticed him last offseason. So I'm kind of like,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: okay at linebacker right now. But that's that's another one
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: If CJ.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Garner Johnson's down, the answer safety, If he's fine, the
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: answer is a run based interior defender. And then I
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: would put linebacker like off ball linebacker close after that,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: Charles's I heard Stevie was working with Key on this offseason.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Any difference and Key on off the line in terms
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: of wasted motion, I think I would say he maybe
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: looks a bit efficient or smoother. I don't know if
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I can credit that to Stevie. My issue is that
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was I don't think his issue
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: is the wasted motion off the line. My issue is
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: always the just the route running in the stem and
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: the break. That's a fair question, fair thought.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: I would say he looks a little.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Bit better, but I don't know if I can attribute
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: that to Stevie or not. By Okay, well, I got
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of these. I got a lot of these.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Ryan says it's kem Paum is Key Coleman expected to
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: start over Josh Palmer. I think it is open. I
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: don't think anybody has the inside right now. If I
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: had to put my money on it, I would. I
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: think they're each going to get equal. I think they're
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: gonna get closer up. I don't think either of them
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: is super far ahead of the other, but I do
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: think Palmer is ahead of Coleman on the depth chart
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: right now. Like I think Coleman is wide receiver for
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: but Coleman's still going to get opportunities and still going
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: to see uh uh snaps. John Roberts said, CJ said
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: he's okay, but the training staff said he will need
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: to get an MRI before confirmed.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: This.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Don't want to play this game, Oh, Roy, Yeah, Roy
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: says to Corey Couch was getting a little hype on
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: Day one and two. Anything today? Yeah, he was at
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: I liked to Corey Couch. I loved him at Miami.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: The athletic profile I don't think translates to the NFL.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: But he's been pretty much as like the third fourth
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: team safety, even though he's like he was a nickel
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: at Miami and is still kind of getting some nickel looks.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: He had a really nice play today as a single
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: high safety.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: I don't remember if it was Cover one or Cover three.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: I was looking at something else, but it was definitely
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: single high and someone ran a cross or across field
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: from the offense's right to the left, so couches left
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: to right and he closed on it, drove on it
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: and helped make a nice play on the ball, almost
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: came down with an interception. So that was a really
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: encouraging play. He's a guy who I don't know if
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: he's ever going to be more than a practice squad guy,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: but he could be a low end of the depth
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: chart guy. He's just like nasty plays with some good violence.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: I noted him last year. And it's not just because
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: I'm a miam Met Hurricanes guy and he's a Hurricane.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: But yeah, he flashed to eight a couple of nice
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: places or a couple of nice plays. He shines more
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: when the pads come on because of how physical of
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: a player he is. So yeah, that's fair. Ray says,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: how's t J.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: Parker doing.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I'm gonna throw I'm gonna bucket Parker
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: with the rest of the Trench conversation. I haven't watched
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: him a bunch because I I'm not this is just
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: me personally. I'm not going to evaluate defensive lineman and
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: offensive lineman without having pads on. He looks good, he's moving. Well,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: we'll see what happens when the pads come on. Oh yeah,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: Charles says, he yeah. Man. So to Tony Man, I'm
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: I am crazy hype for Miami this year, and I
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: was already hype last year. I was kind of down,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: like I obviously losing Cam Warren and I'm going to
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: go to Carson Beck. But I was so hype on
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Baine being finally like healthy, and I am. I am
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: extremely hype for Miami this year. They have legit receivers,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: they're all their online is still reloaded enough. Fletcher came back,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: They're gonna be able to run the ball, they got
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: weapons at receiver, they got a legit QB. They're nasty
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: on defense. Bryce Frosgerald put on some muscle and they're
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: gonna put him at Nickel. I still want them to
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: stay at free safety. But I'm crazy hype for Miami
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: this year. Yeah coming here. Uh have you noticed fewer
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: compressed and I'm guessing I mean condensed formations by the
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: offense and last season, Yes, but it's still condensed more
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: than anything.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: I don't think.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: I do think again, like I've noted and I've noted
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: in my prediction for this season, and also what I've
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: seen the first couple of days there has been more spread,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: and I do think we'll see more spread, but it's
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: still gonna be largely condensed stuff like if they're I'm
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: just making this up, but say they were like a
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: seventy five percent condensed formation team last year. I think
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: this year they'll be like sixty seven percent or sixty six.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be like a fifty to
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: fifty split or maybe a huge percentage point drop. But
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: I do think you are going to see more spread,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: especially in tempo times, especially at especially especially at end
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: of like end of half situations, too minutural situations. I
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: do think you'll get the bills and teams across the
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: league spreading defenses out more, trying to mitigate how much
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: they can disguise and muddy stuff up and go from there.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: Roy says, any available free agent you would sign today,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: you know what we got time. Let me look up
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: an available free agent list while we're here. Also, I'm
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: not gonna pull them up because again I'm by myself,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: and I feel corny doing that. But I see Havoc
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: your comment and then Charles your comment.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: Thank you very much for the shout.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: It was. It was unreal to do the show with
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Mina and be on her show, and then the same
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: exact feeling being on Football three oh one with Nate
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: Tice this past week and breaking down top ten defenses
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: like it was Nate having me on to just talk
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: football and schematics and not having it be just bills
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: bait was one of the coolest things ever I put in. Obviously,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: you know I do bills work here, but I study
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: so much football across the whole league.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: I'm watching tape of.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Tons of teams across the league, and I feel like
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: I can speak to the whole league as a whole.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: And so getting on like the best schematic show in
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: football three oh one and talking about the top ten
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: defenses and essentially Nate and I talk about like fifteen
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: sixteen defenses.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was awesome. So I appreciate you, Charles and Havoc.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: I appreciate both of the both you for those shoutouts.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: That's super cool. NFL Available free Agents twenty twenty six. No,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: I want current types. No, somebody gave me a list.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Somebody.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: Somebody give me a list.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Somebody tell me where to go for a good free
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: agent list?
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: Is it Mike Clay?
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Does Mike Clay still do the list? I got an
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: ESPN list right now, let's see, Okay, I don't know
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: anybody to yell at me.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: I would sign the day.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: Please don't yell at me. Mm. Interesting, Trevon Diggs is
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: still Jonah Williams Son. Oh you know what if? Oh?
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: If CJ. Gardner Johnson is hurt. This is somebody who
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: I've liked for a couple of years, since he was
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: in Dallas. It's the fit. Isn't gonna be the exact same.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: It's not an ideal pairing, but I would take this
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: guy over Gino and DeMar Hamlin. I would sign Donovan
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: Wilson the safety.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: If CJ.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: Garner Johnson is hurt for a significant amount of time,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: I would sign Donovan Wilson. Thomas's thoughts on Josh Allen
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: staying after practice more lately than before interesting, right, I
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: don't is he is he is? It?
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: Is he staying more after practice?
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Like I saw him stay today to throw at receivers,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: But he's done that in previous years. I didn't see
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: him do too much of that yesterday or the day before.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: Unless I'm out. If I'm missing something, feel free to
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: let me know. But I haven't noticed him do anything
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: different than previous years, like he's always kind of stayed
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: after last year on day one and two and three,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: he stayed each day to throw with Palmer. I haven't
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: noticed anything different too much, but I may it's possible
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: I'm missing something. Roy, Now you have me on a
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: rabbit hole. I'm going back and looking for more free
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: agents NFL current free agents. I need a list. No,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: I don't want anybody who's a free agent man. You
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: would think that this would be like an easy thing
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: to find. I'm gonna go to try and find Mike.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: I think Mike Clay is the Twitter guy who always
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: has like an available free agent type of thing, but
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: he probably doesn't have it anymore. I'm gonna say Donovan Wilson, Roy,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: I want to get deeper, but I can't find a
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: better list. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say and Wilson
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: if there's anything with uh, if there's anything with CJ.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson. Really disappointing about c J. Gardner Johnson. We'll
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: see what happens with him. He's been the best player
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: for the Bills in camp so far. I was absolutely
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: gutted when he went down. I didn't even want to
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: watch practice anymore. It got me right in the fields,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: and not just because I've been advocating for him. Being
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: on the Bills for years, and I think his play
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: style is a great fit and his attitude on the
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: field is a great fit. Off the field, it's a
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously a different thing. But yeah, really uh
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: disappointing that, Oh, Charles says, besides the wins and losses,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: what are you specifically looking for from Joe Brady and
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: Leonard in their first year? Oh, this is a really
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: good question, Leonard. I could give like seventy different answers.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing for me for Leonard is twofold.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: How does he stop the run? I get well, is
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: he able to stop the run? And if he does,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: how Because I think if he does, it's it's gonna
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: be mainly scheme based than it is like Jimmy's and
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Joe's and guys winning up front? So how does Leonard
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: stop the run? And how different is the game plan
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: week to week? Like what I'm expecting from Leonard and
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: kind of looking for It doesn't have to be this way,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: but I am looking for, you know, the baseline in terms.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: Of like what he is.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: There is going to be like a core operating rhythm
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: style philosophy to what he is. But I'm looking for, like, Okay,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: this week, they really ratcheted up the blitz rate. This
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: week they played a ton more cover three. This week,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: they played a ton more quarters. This week, they used
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: a ton of simulated pressures. This week they did a
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: ton of rum blitzes. I'm looking for more matchup based
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: things week to week. That's what I'm looking for, just
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: because and again, I could get super granular. I could
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: give like really seventy things for Jim Leonard. Actually know what.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: This might be a fun episode topic like in that
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: break between the preseason and the first regular season week.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: This might be a fun episode of like expectations for
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: each guy in their first year. This might be a
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: fun type episode. But yeah, that's the easiest way for
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: me to broadbrush with Leonard, because my biggest thing with
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: McDermott I think McDermott's a good defensive coach. I think
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: he's a good head coach, and I think the Bills
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: defense on the whole is a good defense. My biggest
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: thing with Sean McDermott was the lack of matchup specificity,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: especially come playoff time, and everybody and their mother had
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: their catalog on tape, knew who and what the Bills were,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: and that's hard to live that way in the playoffs,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: especially against the best players and the best coaches and
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: the best teams. And I thought they were too reactive
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: versus coming up with a curated game plan. So that's
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: what I'm looking forward for Leonard Brady. In terms of
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator, I'm gonna bucket into things, and it's
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: terms offensive coordinator, head coach. In terms of offensive coordinator,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for more play action. I'm looking for more
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: play action to match their core run concepts. So you know,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: they run midzone week, they run duo. They already run
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: some play action that mimics the mid zone week. That's fine.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: I want more play action that looks like they're running duo.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: So let's marry the play action with our top run concepts.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking for from Joe Brady for like,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: as an offensive coordinator, the layers from last year and
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: trying to create some explosives through airyards, not just relying
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: on explosives by you know, pitching it to Coolio Shakir
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: and letting him break two tackles and take it twenty
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: five yards. I want more, you know, seventeen yard air throws.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: I doesn't have to be. But let's get Josh Allen's
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: average up to target. You know it was seven point
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: nine I believe last year. Let's get it up to
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: nine point nine, eight point nine something like that. Like
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: I want to see some let's push the ball down field.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: Let's open things up a little bit more. Let's marry
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: and then let's get more play action. Let's marry our
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: top run concepts with play action. As a head coach,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for him to just have his finger on
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: the pulse in every way, shape or form. I don't
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: know what kind of head coach he's going to be.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he is going to be the
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: uncle or best friend or whatever that Alec Anderson said.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna be a huge stickler.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: We have no idea. So I'm looking for I'm looking
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: for him to just be in control in totality top
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: to bottom, start to finish, and then offensively, I'm looking
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: for that specific layering and just kind of wielding things
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: a little bit more. I know he's a big If
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: it's not broke, don't fix the kind of guy. But
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: let's let's lean into our tendencies a little more and
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: then play off of them to confuse defenses and make
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: them think, oh, well, here comes a because they always
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: do a here and then oh they didn't be or c. Yeah,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: that's a good question. That's a good question to kind
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: of see, you know what we're looking for from uh
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: Brady and Leonard. When I'm looking for the best pizza
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: in Buffalo, New York, I go to One Pie Pizza,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Sweet Sauce, pie cup and char Pepper a great cheese
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: of sauce ratio. You take a bite, the cheese doesn't
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: slide off or anything. It doesn't get messy. And that's
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: not because I ask for light sauce, Like they just
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: know the ratios to put together. But you can get
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: light sauce, you can get it well done. You can
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: get whatever you want. You can get a variety of
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: toppings and specialty pizzas made. They have their own homemade
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: blue cheese that is phenomenal. They make really great salads.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: They have a catering division called Elevated Catering of Buffalo.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: I've had them do several events over the past several years.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: Every time it's phenomenal, And yeah, I get like pizza
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: with it. But they do all these different crazy mac
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: and cheese dishes. I shouldn't say crazy, just creative. They're
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: really good. They do really good chicken and rice dishes,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: so they do like real meals, like real food, but
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: you can also get like pizza on top of it.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: They are absolutely phenomenal in every way, shape and form.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: And as I mentioned every year and every time I
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: speak about them, they're so generous. I always say they're
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: good people, making great food, toys for tots every holiday season,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: the partnering with Rosweld Try and Knock out Cancer, partnering
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: with the Alzheimer's Foundation. They there's just so in partnering
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: with the SPCA, there's a lot of drives and initiatives
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: that I'm not even naming that they take part in.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: But they're just good for the community. Aside from providing
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: great food to everyone, they're really good people making really
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: good foods. So get yourself some one Pi pizza. If
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: you live in Buffalo, get yourself one Pi pizza. If
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: you're coming to Buffalo for the scrimmage or the preseason,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: get yourself some one pie pizza. Tell them this guy's
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: coverage sent you. They have a pizza that's named after
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: the show, and it's also got Josh Allen in the name.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: It's called the Cover One Alan Goat. It is phenomenal.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Get yourself some one Pie pizza. I'm gonna thro out
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: the bandess is Tootles, folks, because we are going to
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: start to wind down.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: Pop says, are you coming back to camp more days?
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: I am not. I am going to the scrimmage on Saturday.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: Next Saturday. Yeah, week from today, I'm going to the scrimmage.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: I am not going to camp anymore days. Unless they
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: kind of add one on a weekend, I'll go. But
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: day job, too much stuff going on to swing that again.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not going back to camp for more days.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: I apologize. I know I appreciate a lot of the
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: kind of the acknowledgment and attention I've got the past
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: several years for my camp notes. Every time we get closer,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: I see people kind of messaging me and saying like, oh,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: you're going to camp, I'm looking for your notes and stuff.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I usually get to the first three sometimes
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: four practices, but no more for me this year. But
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: I will be going to the scrimmage. I'll be putting
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: a bunch of notes and everything together for that.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: I might even do an.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: Episode after I get back from the scrimmage, so next
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: Saturday night late night, like a scrimmage post game maybe
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: something like that.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: I'll also be doing all.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: The post games for the preseason games as well, just
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: as a little update and thing for the channel. Hope
• 1:17:48
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  Speaker 1: there's anything I didn't get to, I apologize. But if
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  Speaker 3: In the comments on YouTube, whatever you've got.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate all the kind words that came through for
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  Speaker 1: myself and the work I've been doing at camp and
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  Speaker 1: the work this summer.
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  Speaker 3: Check out the one of the little I think.
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  Speaker 1: This is a recent episode of Football three oh one
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  Speaker 1: where I joined Nate Tice to reveal our top ten
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  Speaker 1: defenses for the twenty twenty six NFL season. It was
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  Speaker 1: a two hour long episode. We got into a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the weeds when it came to scheme and structure
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  Speaker 1: and player evaluation and metrics for each of us ranking
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  Speaker 1: our top ten defenses.
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  Speaker 3: That was super cool. And yeah, feel free to.
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  Speaker 1: Get to my Twitter page or blue Sky page or
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  Speaker 1: a ton more notes and details on things I may
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  Speaker 1: not have spoken about on this episode. And yeah, thank
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  Speaker 1: you for all the support you folks have given me,
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  Speaker 1: especially in recent weeks or this you know, past month,
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  Speaker 1: with you know, being on Mena Chimes and you know,
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  Speaker 1: being on Football three oh one, I've had people DM me,
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm very grateful and thankful for all the support
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  Speaker 1: you folks have shown me in whatever form or fashion
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  Speaker 1: it comes in. And so yeah, I'm just always very
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I hope you keep enjoying the content. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for all your support, Thank you for all that
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  Speaker 1: you do. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. I will
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  Speaker 1: see you when I see you. I hope you and
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  Speaker 1: your family and friends and loved ones are all doing
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  Speaker 1: well and staying safe. Be kind to one another, take
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  Speaker 1: care of one another. I will see you when I
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  Speaker 1: see you. Godspeed, and as always go Bills