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RAHEEM DEVAUGHN - Smoothie Operator Sauté · Eating While Broke

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  Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host Coley Witt, and today we have Grammy
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  Speaker 1: Award winning Soul and R and B recording artists Rahim
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  Speaker 1: Devon in the building.
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  Speaker 2: Hello.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, And he's already made my first, I would say,
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  Speaker 1: my first round of dish. He made me smoothie with
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  Speaker 1: what is pineapple, banana, ginger, root, rasberry, raspberries, blueberries, berries,
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  Speaker 1: manuka oil oil, manuka honey honey.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm already drinking good No, no, you who's for
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  Speaker 1: the table this round? And now we're cooking something else
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  Speaker 1: for me? I feel really really special right now. So
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  Speaker 1: what are you making for me? Right now?
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  Speaker 3: I'm like some garlic, kale, garlic, kale, fresh garlic. Thet
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  Speaker 3: things heat up over here, you know, cooking it up.
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  Speaker 1: So we talked before and we were talking about how
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  Speaker 1: this show is all about eating while broke. But what
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  Speaker 1: I loved what you said was like, no matter how
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  Speaker 1: it broke, I was, I still made sure to eat healthy, healthy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, to eat healthy like you know, I believe it
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  Speaker 3: or not. You know, mushrooms and you know one red pepper,
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  Speaker 3: you know, maybe a little bushel of kale, it's not
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  Speaker 3: as expensive as one may think, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It really wasn't. So some of the team was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: oyster mushrooms, it's so expensive. It was three dollars. Now
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  Speaker 1: the question is what are you gonna make for me? Officially,
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  Speaker 1: that's a real question because I was over here thinking
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  Speaker 1: it was scrambled eggs, mushrooms.
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  Speaker 3: Little mystery, little mystery mystery dish.
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  Speaker 1: We're excited about it. Yeah, So take me back to
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  Speaker 1: the beginning days. That's the hard times for him, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I well, I always been hard working, you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean, even in the hardest of times. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I've been working since I was fifteen, sixteen years old,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So, like my first job
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  Speaker 3: was Giant Food and Calverton, Maryland, uh, which is like
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  Speaker 3: right there adjacent to uh Feltsville, Maryland.
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  Speaker 1: Is that like grocery store? No?
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  Speaker 3: What w Well you're a Giant Yeah, absolutely, yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: your partial pick up and eventually you know, graduated to
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  Speaker 3: doing you know, uh, customer service and.
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  Speaker 2: And working a register and all the things. You know.
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  Speaker 3: Well, every job I always had was in you know,
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  Speaker 3: like customer service. I think it it like prepared me
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  Speaker 3: for to be able to you know, be interact with people,
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  Speaker 3: which is one of my favorite things to do, you know,
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  Speaker 3: at the concerts.
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  Speaker 1: And uh it did you know early on that you
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be in music?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's something I always was drawn to,
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  Speaker 3: you know, even as it even as you know, as
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  Speaker 3: a kid young, you know what I mean. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I think I remember seeing like was it Motown twenty five?
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  Speaker 3: You know, the Grammy Awards. I think I think right
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  Speaker 3: around like eighty four eighty five is when I really
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  Speaker 3: got that that itch.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, now you you grew up with music in the house, right.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, no single parent household. My father wasn't in
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  Speaker 3: the household, but he was definitely was in my life.
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  Speaker 3: He was a He was a classically trained child prodigy.
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  Speaker 3: Cellis no No a boy, the artist name Ebduai dude.
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  Speaker 2: My mother worked you know for I.
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  Speaker 3: Guess you could say like a law enforcement no immigrations
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  Speaker 3: was a was an officer for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: And but mom had the mom had the vinyl you know,
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  Speaker 3: the dope vinyl collection. You know, go through her vinyl collections.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of just checking out, you know, different different artists,
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  Speaker 3: discovering artists like Bob Molly.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Quincy Jones as a producer, of course.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of Marvin Gay, uh, you know, and then
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  Speaker 3: I would and then and then I you know, spending
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  Speaker 3: time with my dad, uh you know, in his background,
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  Speaker 3: uh classically you know, and going through his collection and
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  Speaker 3: stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: I discovered Prince at a young age. You know, the
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  Speaker 3: Purple Wing album. I totally probably shouldn't have been listening
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  Speaker 3: to that, to that album at that age, but uh,
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  Speaker 3: I was just fascinated and blown away, you know by Prince.
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  Speaker 1: Did your parents know you could sing yet? Or did
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  Speaker 1: they were they? Did they have an idea? No?
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  Speaker 3: I kind of really just like kept that to myself.
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  Speaker 3: I think singing. I was a late bloomer, like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: pursuing the singing, singing thing, you know, first year of
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  Speaker 3: college going to Copper State College. I graduated from High
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  Speaker 3: Point and uh Peg County and you know, going to
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  Speaker 3: Confidence where I really kind of like literally like found myself.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: So before then, they didn't hear a like they didn't
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  Speaker 1: have any idea that. Like they sent you off to
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  Speaker 1: college and like it's gonna go get a college degree.
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  Speaker 1: Did you tell them what you were going to college for.
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  Speaker 3: I originally went to college, I was I was red shirted,
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  Speaker 3: but I had I had a track scholarship. Yeah uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, as a distance runner, and and.
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  Speaker 2: I thought I wanted to be in law enforcement.
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  Speaker 3: And I went for three semesters I felt, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I joined the singing group. I fell in love with
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  Speaker 3: the art of like singing. And next thing, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I dropped out and here we are.
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  Speaker 1: And before you now in that transition, you because I
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  Speaker 1: read online, you know, you had kind of john harmonize
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  Speaker 1: with this group on campus, and that was kind of
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  Speaker 1: like the beginning is that cract? And then but at
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  Speaker 1: what point do you go home and you say, hey, mom, dad,
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  Speaker 1: this is the this is the the road change I'm making.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it wasn't going back home at that point. I'm
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  Speaker 3: an adult, you know, I kind of had kind of
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  Speaker 3: figured it out. I slept on a few couches here
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  Speaker 3: and then you know, I had some great friends who
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  Speaker 3: you know, who definitely helped along the way in that process.
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  Speaker 3: But I had to figure it out, you know. You know,
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  Speaker 3: at some point I became a dad. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna try.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we're cooking for two cool? I want you to
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  Speaker 1: eat with me?
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  Speaker 2: I kind of.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like to do it kind of like you know,
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  Speaker 3: and appetizers or oh is this you can kind of
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  Speaker 3: eat it?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Sports team shout outs to them, We're gonna eat it
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  Speaker 1: a school from now. You don't watch y'all back here?
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  Speaker 1: So I could try this, Yeah, absolutely, I'm gonna try it.
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  Speaker 1: So before I try, I gotta ask you the road
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  Speaker 1: of couch surfing. Was there any part of you that
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  Speaker 1: was questioning whether this was your purpose?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: I mean I think I think definitely. Through life we
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  Speaker 3: question what our purpose is. You know some people, some
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  Speaker 3: people go to go through their entire life, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: trying to figure out their their purpose. You know, some
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  Speaker 3: people find it criocket than others. You know, how was
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  Speaker 3: I think I went? I went through the process of
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  Speaker 3: from from from from knowing to believing or from believing
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  Speaker 3: in knowing.
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me?
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  Speaker 1: Oh man?
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  Speaker 3: So, so you know that there's a process of like
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  Speaker 3: believing that you can do something, and then there's something
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  Speaker 3: like you know, absolutely knowing that hey, this is what
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  Speaker 3: I want to do. I'm going to figure out how
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  Speaker 3: to do it, you know, and uh, I think once
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  Speaker 3: I mastered the art of like knowing and manifestation understanding
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  Speaker 3: you know, the power of prayer. And when what was.
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  Speaker 1: That epiphany of knowing? Like when did you know? You knew?
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  Speaker 3: For me, it was like doing the open mics and
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  Speaker 3: just seeing how people responded, okay, yeah to the you know,
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  Speaker 3: to the music responded to me. You know, I always
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  Speaker 3: was an artist that uh, I always had to have,
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  Speaker 3: you know, even in my early career. You know, I
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  Speaker 3: had I had product, I had CDs, I had, you know,
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  Speaker 3: something that was tangible that people could you know, take
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  Speaker 3: me home.
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  Speaker 2: With them verse a. You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: And once I once I saw that or you know,
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  Speaker 3: or a perform a song and I would see how
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  Speaker 3: people would respond to it or ask me how could
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  Speaker 3: they buy the song?
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  Speaker 2: Then I knew I was on the something.
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  Speaker 1: Now. Typically during that whole process, I would assume you
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  Speaker 1: weren't were you were? You were still struggling financially. So
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  Speaker 1: was there anybody around you that's like whoa you know,
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  Speaker 1: is the is the math math making sense? Are you
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  Speaker 1: still doing side hustles to No?
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  Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely still working, uh day job, shy hustle stuff
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  Speaker 3: you know jobs jobs that I have. Oh man, I
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  Speaker 3: worked at UH, Like I said, giant food.
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  Speaker 2: I worked at.
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  Speaker 1: UH after college, after having baby and still pursuing music.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is like, you know, definitely first son
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  Speaker 3: in the picture at this point, you know, working, you know,
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  Speaker 3: just trying to figure it out. I worked for I
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  Speaker 3: worked for a long Fence. I worked for Chevy J's
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  Speaker 3: bank telemarketing.
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  Speaker 1: While still doing music.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, while still doing music. And is your go to
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  Speaker 3: get this word stout? Where's where's my where's my shoe?
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  Speaker 2: My shoe? Chef?
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  Speaker 3: Tasha?
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  Speaker 2: Help? Can we get that renched out for me? Thank you?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks Tasha. So you're just just for all our listeners.
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  Speaker 1: He's made a beautiful kaoe garlic salady like thing that
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  Speaker 1: was like heated over the stove. Now he chopped up
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  Speaker 1: the scallions, the onions, and the red peppers.
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  Speaker 2: Tell her to bring some forks too.
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  Speaker 1: Tell Tasha to bring forks. We're definitely going over your time,
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  Speaker 1: because I feel like the story is starting to heat
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  Speaker 1: up just as good as these dishes.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, it's all good.
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  Speaker 1: So you're pursuing this is your the mother of your
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  Speaker 1: child signaling any type of pressure on you to like
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  Speaker 1: maybe possibly give up music. Is there anything?
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  Speaker 3: Nah, I'm I'm, I'm, I'm I'm yeah, that's not that.
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  Speaker 3: That's never a parent you know, whether it's co parenting
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  Speaker 3: or my parents or whoever. Like at this point, I
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  Speaker 3: got my in my mind what I'm doing, you know
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  Speaker 3: what i mean? Okay, So yeah, as long as I'm
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  Speaker 3: able to provide and you know, for my son, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and take care of my my father's responsibilities. That was
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  Speaker 3: never an option to like kind of dictate, like you know.
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  Speaker 1: Like at this point you also know you know for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I mean I'm yeah, I'm you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: it's tunnel vision, you know what i mean, like not
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  Speaker 3: having a backup plan, knowing that you know, this is
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  Speaker 3: something that you want to do. Uh, and then and
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  Speaker 3: and figuring out you know, like you know, you figure
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  Speaker 3: it out, you master it, You figure out what works
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  Speaker 3: for you, and you know, and then and then and
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  Speaker 3: it's putting the right time, you know, the right team
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  Speaker 3: around you too, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So was it early on in your career where
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  Speaker 1: you got your first like publishing or writing.
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  Speaker 3: So so so initially I was signed to a label.
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  Speaker 3: H We're not signed to a label, excuse me. Initially,
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  Speaker 3: I want to I won a contest, uh and at
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  Speaker 3: open mic contest, and and when in that contests, I
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  Speaker 3: used that money to get a CD burner and kind
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  Speaker 3: of like start burning my own music, selling out of
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  Speaker 3: the trunk another local artist and.
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  Speaker 1: I'll bring you recording the music to burn it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, another local artist and producer from the area. We
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  Speaker 3: we teamed up and mobbed up and ended up getting
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  Speaker 3: apartment together, and uh we formed a group called Urban
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  Speaker 3: AF thirty one, which we went on to, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: make a lot of great music. I need my cooking
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  Speaker 3: oil was my cooking oil.
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  Speaker 2: I think they brought something from the uh yeah, cooking.
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  Speaker 3: Tasha cooking oil called Tasha Jajah come back here and
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  Speaker 3: say it was we need cooking oil, cooking oil.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's olive oil.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So we so we started, So we started, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we started this group Urban After thirty one, we put
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  Speaker 3: out a project called The Healing. Uh. You know, I
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  Speaker 3: also teamed up with a phenomenal artist from DC.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of thank you, thank.
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  Speaker 3: You, phenomenal artists from DC by the name of West Felton.
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  Speaker 2: We formed a group called The Crossroads. So I always been.
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  Speaker 3: Part of these like you know groups, and just even
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  Speaker 3: in the early stages of my career, I understood what
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  Speaker 3: it was to like reinvent myself as an artist, you
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean, and and that and that there's
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  Speaker 3: you know a lot of different genres of music that
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  Speaker 3: that that that that you know, that I liked and
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to participate in and you know that whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: So it's kind of like, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Figuring out how to do that being an independent artist
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  Speaker 3: at the same time, you know, through the process of it,
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  Speaker 3: and eventually, you know, what ended up happening was what
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  Speaker 3: had happened was that you know, uh, I met some
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  Speaker 3: producers from the area locally who were like super dope
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  Speaker 3: and their managers and people that they did business with,
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  Speaker 3: uh managed Genuine at the time, and uh you know,
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  Speaker 3: I asked, I asked the dre Vons and Cliff Jones
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  Speaker 3: at the time to manage me, which they which they
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  Speaker 3: agreed to do, and you know, I just kind of
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  Speaker 3: expressed them that I just wanted to kind of just
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  Speaker 3: like do music full time, you know, and if there
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  Speaker 3: was any opportunities to like you know, sing background for
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  Speaker 3: any artist, you know, genuine whomever did I'd be interested
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  Speaker 3: in doing it, and you know, I ended up getting
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  Speaker 3: a call for the gig and touring with him still
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  Speaker 3: while all while pursuing, you know, my career being part
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  Speaker 3: of these different groups stuff as well.
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  Speaker 1: And but at this point you're no back and there's
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  Speaker 1: no us. You don't have a day.
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  Speaker 3: Job, right, Nah, at this point there's no jay job.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, so you know, now you got past that hurdle.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah so now so now so now it's like monetizing,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in real time, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So how long would you say that journey was that spam?
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, you're talking anywhere between two thousand and you're
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  Speaker 3: saying from like two thousand and.
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  Speaker 2: Two too, like two thousand and two, I did the deal.
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  Speaker 3: So you're talking, you're talking about this is right between
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  Speaker 3: like nineteen ninety nine, say, or ninety eight through like
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  Speaker 3: two thousand, like two thousand and one, you know where
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  Speaker 3: you know, you know, just figuring it out, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 3: figuring it out and during that recording, what recording at
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  Speaker 3: the time what would become the love experience, not knowing
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  Speaker 3: at the time that that's what it would be, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and just never putting all my all my options in
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  Speaker 3: one you know, one basket, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know, allowed me to be able to
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  Speaker 3: do I could just be part of different things, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I in this group I'm doing my solo thing is
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  Speaker 3: Rahiem Devon, like you know, the option to that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you never know what's going to kind of take off,
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  Speaker 3: you know, so you know, I was just just having
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  Speaker 3: fun doing it the entire time, you know, because I
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  Speaker 3: believe that anything, you know, what we do, it should
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  Speaker 3: definitely be fun.
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  Speaker 2: Right and.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the interest, the buzz started to really
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  Speaker 3: start happening, you know, around two thousand and one, golding
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  Speaker 3: over into two, I started to go to a lot
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  Speaker 3: of artist showcases, RCA Records, whoever would have me. Like,
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  Speaker 3: we went, we got a lot of we got it,
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  Speaker 3: We got a lot of no's until we finally got it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, you know how did you handle those no's?
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  Speaker 3: I mean we just never gave up, you know, you
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  Speaker 3: know I just kind of always like looked at it like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: if it's not going to happen here, then hey stay lost,
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  Speaker 3: stay what it's their loss.
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  Speaker 1: It's their loss. Yeah of course, yeah, yeah, you know
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  Speaker 1: were there's some lessons in there that you had to
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  Speaker 1: learn about the industry.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just, I just I just I never gave up,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I wouldn't say it was
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  Speaker 3: it was that anything was like painful, like you know,
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  Speaker 3: I you know, even then I understood that it was like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, timing involved like I like, you know, I was,
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  Speaker 3: I still was popping, you know what I mean. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: So you know we were doing at that point, We're
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  Speaker 3: doing college gigs with the you know, with Urban after
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  Speaker 3: thirty one, and you know, I'm I'm I'm when I'm
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  Speaker 3: not out on the road doing my independent stuff, I'm
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  Speaker 3: on the road with g vir Ginuine.
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  Speaker 1: So it's you know, you're still moving in that forward motion.
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  Speaker 3: It seems oh no, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And it sounds like you kept busy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, That's that's the name of the gang.
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  Speaker 2: Like even like now, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, you gotta stay busy and work and nobody's
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  Speaker 3: gonna give you that.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta work for it. You got ground for it,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and you gotta.
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  Speaker 1: Eat and you gotta eat to ask because this part
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: of the show, I have to say, have me the
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: most interested is the mushrooms. I know, this is a
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: sidebar for everyone. But I've never really cooked mushrooms like this,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: so I'm just curious.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: You we got so we got a little cornmeal, right,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: and I saw you season it.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got the mushrooms popping. But the oyster, the
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: oyster mushrooms.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: I use a little jets egg, okay, right, just to
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: get it, just to get it popping.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: And then you let us sit in there, right, yeah,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: let it.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Sit in there, marinate a little bit, season it a
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: little bit, and then we got the flour happening.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm so excited. I've never seen it. So
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: if you would have left here and you would have
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: like not gotten to this part, I promise you I
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: would have been texting your management like it is, right.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: I just want to thing about the kel you know,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: even as it gets a little cool.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, there we go. That sound like.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Yes, I've been waiting for that.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I was waiting for it when you first put it in.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I've seen someone on this show took water and did it,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: and I was scared.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: This is not the move.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's not the move.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: She made some really great onion rings.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: That's what's up.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: The kale is really good, So you just eat the
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: mushrooms all by itself on the plate with the kale.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Well do you yeah, I mean it's like kind of
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: like a.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Th This is like like a vegan chicken nugget, you know,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: finger fool you know, do you know.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: If there's any benefits to the mushroom.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: That's I think there's always beneficial to rushrooms.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, So where do you see yourself going from here?
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Like what's next on the milestones for you?
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: It's crazy because after nineteen years, I'm on a I'm
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: on a any client still you don't want to pivot?
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Like it's been great.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: I just finished a nineteen city tour let us uh
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: you know, which was which was amazing. You know, I'm
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: putting out music quarterly. Quarterly, yeah, quarterly, you know, been
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: putting out the seasonal projects, you know, Summer of Love,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Fall in Love, Winter and Love, you know, for spring,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: we're doing a series of.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Of singles you know, which are being received. Well. So yeah,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's it's it's God's a limit.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Definitely what I definitely see myself doing more television and
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: film and and things of that nature. But it's still
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: so much of the world that I haven't seen touring
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: as a recording artist, you know, and uh, and possibilities
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: that are out there. Definitely get into some strategic partnerships.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Shout out to Gilead Sciencest, who was phenomenal, uh, you know,
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: you know for the Raheem Devon brand and their brand
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: and all the wonderful work that they're doing in the community,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: you know, advocating and you know, they invested over twelve
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: million dollars in grants, you know, to create awareness and
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: break down the stigmas about HIV and age and house
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: affecting black women and girls you know, here in the country,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: here in the state with them. Well, you know, I
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: you know, I do a lot of community work.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know that.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. When I'm not you know, praying.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: For me gomet eating Wall Broke episode. I promise you
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go home and try to do all of this.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Listen, you can do it. You can do it.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: You can you can you can eat while broke and
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: still be you know healthy.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, which is the name of
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: the game.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna be really judging the muscrooms really hard.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: By the way, I have another random question when it
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: comes to the mushrooms. Earlier, I had said, when I
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: was looking at the packs of mushrooms, one of them
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: they look like really wet. Is that like a sign
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: you shouldn't buy mushrooms if the package is look I
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: looked at them.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I think they were They're pretty good.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Pick the one that was Oh yeah, I mean yeah, yeah,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I think if it's I think, if it's ever in question,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: if you ever have to ask, then yeah, yeah.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I was sitting there like, I don't know.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: I would definitely say, trust your impulse on that, you know.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: But the ones I got you.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Did you did good.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: You did good, you did good.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I love how you're really chefing it, you know. So
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: who are you currently signed to?
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: I'm currently signed to myself.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: That's what I want to talk about. So what was
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: you You were signed the Jibe at one point.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, so Jibe was from two thousand and two,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: the first album came out of five and then by
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: two thousand and eleven, you know, January first, twenty eleven when.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I became independent again. So about fifteen fifteen years give
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: a take that I've.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Been indy, you know, And what would you say the
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: pros and the cons of being indie.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: R Man, I mean, definitely you make more money long
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: long term. I mean, I think the main thing is
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: about the ownership of it, you know, and just being
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: able to just kind of just just dictate your destiny.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: You can put out music when you want, you know.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just something about having your own you know,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: you know, and being having ownership.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: It's so important.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: You know, on the first record, on that record that
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you put out with Jove, though, was your deal? Did
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: you not get your own majority of it or what
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: was that deal? Well?
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, I'm I'm I'm a I'm a published
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: writer and producer and all these things, you know what
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: I mean. So it really, you know, being independent comes
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: down to having ownership of the master like you know.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know bucket lists.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: I want to I definitely want to go back and
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: get the masters for the Love Experience album, Love Behind
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: the Melody, and the Level More Masterpiece in particular. You know, uh,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: which were the three releases that I had with you
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: you know, yeah.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I know when we interviewed, I interviewed Bone Thugs and
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Harmony here and they rush still waiting. I think they
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: had like another year before they can get their masks
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: something like that, and it was really important to them, too.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Very important thing. I got a baked potatoes your stove, so.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: This is really cook You're gonna have to excuse me
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: and get them. I'm gonna go. I just want to.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: I'm hoping prayerfully that they're that they're did that go,
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: We're gonna take a quick love king break, ladies, gentlemen,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: not be right back.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: The two finger snaps.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: And I was just really good garlic direct.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Are they ready? Yeah? I don't know if they're ready.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: That one might be ready. They're not. That's that's yea.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: It must have. It looked like it cut off on you. Yeah,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: it keeps cutting off. Oh wow, yeah, he keeps cutting off.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Let's do this.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: So guys, just so you know a little behind the
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: scenes about Rahee. He's really into this cooking thing. Okay.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: We try to like tell him, you know, you don't
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: have to make smoothies.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that means.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: You don't have to.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Hey, we'll pre cook, we'll preachop everything. He was like, no,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I got this really into cooking. Wondered if he was
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: really into cooking. He's really into cooking. He seems like
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: real legit with this. Most guess we could talk them
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: out of it.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Really, they don't have.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I'm sure Tony is back there having a heart attack
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: over the time. I feel the pressure, Tony. I could
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: feel you, and you come. Rahine's back, everybody. I was
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: talking to the camera. I was telling him what I
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: thought about you. Oh yeah, I was just telling Tony.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I could feel his energy. I feel you, Tony pressuring me.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I'm bad.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: He's enjoying this cooking. Okay, do you want me to
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: open these? Do you want me to do anything?
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: You can't do that? Don't be messing around in my kitchen.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Now, he's enjoying this. Do you see this? So when
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: you're at home by yourself, do you cook like this? Oh?
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I cook in spurts.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: I'm you know, yeah, life is you know, it's it's interesting.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: This is the busiest I ever been in my entire career.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: So yeah, so to uh so to you know, to
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: have time is always the challenge, you know. Uh yeah,
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: so you know that's the challenge. Time is the challenge.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: So what's your cheap meal when you're this busy?
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Sorry? I mean this is like a go to like
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: if you get it, if you get if you get like,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: you know, a hotel room, uh with the kitchen, you
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. You don't have to have the
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: gas stove. You know, you have a couple of ingredients
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: and just do your thing, you know what I mean.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: It's just like it's just like a is.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: There a reason why you choose them?
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Malayan salt.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's also a little saltier.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: No, I don't know.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I mean it could be.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: It could be a little saltier, but it's definitely a
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: lot healthier though, Okay, yeah, definitely a lot healthier.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely a lot healthier.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: But you're not vegan.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: I have been vegan most of my life. I have
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: periods where you know, I do I'm currently like I
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: guess I would say pro tarry, you know, and yeah
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: in the sense of, uh you.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Dip your pinky into the.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll do I'll do lamb and I'll do wild
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: caught fish like evident that It just I just feel
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: like it agrees with my digestive track. I mean, yeah,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: it just agrees with me, you know what I mean.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: You know, me being a blood type that I am
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: and just blood type absolutely.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I want to get one of those done because I
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I a doctor told me I was alerted to red meat.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: So do you hear enough episodes of eating while broken?
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Hear me say yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, yeah. The
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: thing that yeah, the thing is so it's just like,
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: you know, it's good to know like what your you know,
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: what what agrees with your body and what you know
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: what serves your body best?
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: What made you get me?
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: I feel I feel like you kind of like are
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: indirectly slowly poisoning yourself by doing anything other than that? Yeah,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I agree with that.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: So it also takes I think maturity because I was
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: telling my friends I knew I was alerted to red
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: meat at the age of twenty four, but I didn't
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: stop till I was like thirty six. And why do
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: you think Why do you think I was just immature?
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: It's an immaturity.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Now, if I see oxtail or short rep, I'm like,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: no matter how much I love you, I'm not doing it.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: This is the part I've been dying to try it.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Can we show it to the camera?
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Guys, that looks legit.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, where's my oh my dog, my dog my dollar.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I'm excited about this. Here we go, Here we go.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: You got some options of.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Do we have dipping sauces?
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Sorry?
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Options?
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have difference. You have dipping sauces too. Absolutely
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: shut that right there.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and make this at home. I'm gonna
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: send your team some pictures of it.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: So you got oh, okay, we got we got sauces.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I just want to try.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna try it. Here we go.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: So we got cherioockey sauce right there, and we'll do so.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Who was your favorite collab in your career?
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: My favorite collab? Yeah, man, I worked with a lot
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: of people, of course, you know, uh ghost Face and
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Ray Kwan, you know, definitely always bucket list stuff, DJ Jazzy,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Jeff Kenny, Dope. I can't say like I have a
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: necessarily a favorite.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Bless you do you have a favorite at least collaboration
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: where it was a g overall just great experience from
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: beginning to end, or experience that surprised you.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: I think the roots, the roots, you know, me working
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: with the roots and just the way that whole Uh,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: that whole situation happened with rich uh Nicholas, who was
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: kind of like the hidden member Slash. I guess you
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: could say manager uh for the group, you know, being
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: this being the studio with Raymond Angry and Black Thought
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: working on these records one on one at the time,
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: rich Rich kind of being very specific about what type
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: of records he wanted me to make.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: There's a song on They're called.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: A Man with No Future Future and the irony, the
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: irony of the song is that I didn't know at
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: the time, and I don't I'm not sure how many
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: people know at the time, but Rich was Rich was
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: uh was was was was.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Uh terminally ill.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: So he had me so so I remember having this
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: conversation with him on the phone about creating this record
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: about a man with no future, not knowing that I
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: was making basically like the soundtrack of his life. Oh wow. Yeah.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: And I don't know if I don't I don't know
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: if he ever shared that with Black Thought.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: But it just uh yeah.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: So it's kind of well, when when when the album
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: when like literally he passed, like the week that the
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: album dropped, or like I want to say, like right
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: before the album dropped. Like maybe maybe maybe within that
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: thirty day. I can't remember the timeline, but like and
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: it was just like wow, like Rich pat and then
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: and then it came out like, hey, Rich had been sick.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I didn't.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: So then so then I started going back to the
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: conversations that we had that we had been having about
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: the music and how specific he was he you know,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: when he told me the concept of what he wanted
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: and what, you know, what what the production was saying
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: to him. And then I say and then I'm like, yo, wow,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: this was about him.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: How's your How's I.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Want to try it? I'm gonna try it right now, guys,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna try it without seasoning.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I'm going there. Really, you're going there.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: We shouse chicken, Rob it's schuey.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: It was not dry like chicken tender tender.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tender. Well, it's chewy, a little bit.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Chew.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I wasn't too sure if I could like actually successfully
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: bite it, so I shoved the whole thing in. Guys.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Which one was the cheriochy? This one? This one?
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that's.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah old I tried. I feel like this would go
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: really good with.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Ranch by the way, guys, Yeah, a ranch would do
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: me and myself, I'd have to do like a vegan ranch.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I think that's barbecue. You tried this one?
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's barbecue. And that's yeah.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat all of these, guys. I don't know
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: if I'm hungry or if I just like it.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: I think I think I like it.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I think I might be onto something.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Guys, something gonna come in to my house and be like,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: what are you making? I'm making?
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: It's banging with the barbecue. Barbecue, that's it.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, barbecue is quite better, but the barbecue gives it
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: the pop.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Is there a reason why you chose to cornmeal? Holding?
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat all of these? Did you? Did you
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: have more? But did I? There's more. I don't want
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: to be that person that like eats all the food
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: and the guy looks up and he's like, wait, did
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: you eat it all? That happened to me one time.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: It was really embarrassed, really embarrassed.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: That's really good. Where's my sous where's my shoe chef?
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: I need I need the sour cream and the sour
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: cream and cheese out of the out of the fridge.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Yep, And uh does your team know that you're passionate about.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Personal Okay, what do you think? I'm here, but.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I'm saying because I think Tony's gonna murder us. No,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: you gotta be a You're.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Not gonna even speak that into assistance.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: I feel the pressure.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat all of Is there a reason why
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: you chose the corn meal holding?
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean no, no, no, no, no no no, no, no
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: no no.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: It's like on the table. It's on the table. It
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: looks like a little.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: And what we're gonna do because we're gonna have.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: To don't do this one.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: We're gonna have to.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: I just don't.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Improvise a bit. Where's my knife? Where's my knife? Myna?
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Oh here?
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Sorry, yes, yeah, you can just sit it right here.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I need to keep basking this. But is there a
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: reason why you keep why you use the corn meal
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: outing but the corn meal outside on the and versus
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: any other bredding for the mushroom?
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I just like the texture. How do you like it?
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I like the texture? But I was just curious, like
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: if it was a flavor thing or was a texture.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: A flavored texture?
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm curious if you were to do this
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: corn meal outing with a different bread.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Now, if I'd have had more time, I probably would
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: have did a I probably would have did a.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: A U.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I probably would have fried it and then put it
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: in the oven for a little bit too.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Why just to give it a little more, For a little.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: More, I'm waiting for more. It's good though.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: So the only reason why I'm saying that is either
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: it's like I like the texture, but I feel like
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: either mixing it with another breadcrumb or maybe maybe adding
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: like garlic powder and onion powder or something maybe to it.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Bro You know the thing is too it's in the
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: keys in seasoning. You know you could seizon your flower.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: So again, you know, it's really about how much time
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: you have. No Usually when you're eating broke, you're trying
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: to get to somewhere to make some money.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: This is so good. This ain't eating this ain't this
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: is this is I'm glad you did this because it's
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: teaching all of us that we can eat healthy and
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: on a budget, and that being you could also be
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: vegan and.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Also eat on a budget, absolutely.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Which I never thought. I never knew. But I've been
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: watching these new videos that people are like turning like
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: lion mushroom. Have you ever seen a lion mushom?
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, you do that. Yeah, absolutely, that was a
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: potential actual d the DMV.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Just come back every day and just show us a
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: new vegan lesson. Okay, I mean.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: That that sounds good. It sounds like it's good to
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: the pilot.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: It's amazing, Like I'm.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Doing a good job here, ladies, gentlemen.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: What is some things that fans would be shocked to
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: know about you side is the fact that you love
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: to cook.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Maybe I guess my love for you know, community and
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: just the work that I you know, how passionate I
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: am about the community work that I do. And then
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: and then and then I guess just you know, just
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: a passion too for the passion that I have for
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: working with you know, uh well community. But it also
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: just like the fans, like you know what I mean,
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: the meet and greets and just the whole the way
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: you know, that exchange it happenings live like something that is.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Very important, you know, very very important to me.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Was there anything that happened during your career or life
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: that was like a major pivotal moment?
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the loss of my dad you know, is going
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: on two years and my dad passed and and I
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: I can say that it's definitely been, uh been a
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: pivot for me, you know, in the sense of, I'm
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: gonna kind of do do you do you some thing
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: because we're pressed for time and we are eating while
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: we're broke. I'm gonna do like a dice. Uh you
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: are really like, we're gonna do like you a dice.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Potatoe.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: We're gonna call it a dice. Uh, it's not mashed
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: a dice, baked potato.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, this looks legit.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we call it a Mexican.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I've never seen anybody do this. Yeah, let's see how
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: that you're really showing off?
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: How that? How that? How that? We'll see how that?
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: How that?
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: How that does you did? Let's see and uh, let's
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: take that off there. So we're gonna burn things?
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Do you have to take those out and burn.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: The house down?
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Stay all right?
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: I think we pretty much Tony's gonna be excited because
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: we pretty much.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: To hear the rest of pretty much done here about
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: your dad?
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so so yeah, about that, it's basically where's my
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: sour cream? So it's basically like you know, that's a
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: when you lose you know, a parent, child, you know,
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: a loved one, something.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Of that magnitude.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Will you know, it can break your spirit m like completely,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Like you know, some people don't bounce back from from
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: situations like that, you know what I mean, like mentally
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: you know, just talk about depression and just like all
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: the things right, so you know, but for me, it's
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: definitely been part of my my pivot one one me
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: knowing that you know, that energy is always.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Around me.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: And just you know, just just just knowing that you know,
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: the spirit lives forever. So I feel, I I f
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: I I feel my dad and my loved one and
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: my ancestors and you know and and all that I do.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like your dad was very proud of you?
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: And oh?
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: I think the the tough the toughest part for me
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: is probably having has been having to has been having
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: to it's after the show. My dad was the type
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: of person. Yeah, my dad would be the person that
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: would like call me, you know once the show was
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: once the show was done, like you know what I mean, Like, hey,
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: I was to show the night type vibes you.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I like the way it looks. But I know what
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: that tastes like, right, that's yeah, but they're not. Yeah,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: let's do the thin one that's farthest from the seed.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Let's do this. I break you, I break you down
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: one into like just for the presentation.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I love how passionate you are about this. What would
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: you say your secret ingredient would be to life? Like,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: if you had to say one secret ingredient to life,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: what would you say it is? Am I allowed to
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: try this?
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the dude, he govin. Yeah, I would say
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: it's my secret ingredient to life. Uh is No, it's
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: it's it's you know, it's the I think. I think
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: it's the art of hustling, you know what I mean,
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: like like just you know, it's the art of hustling.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Understand that you're gonna go out and you gotta get
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: out and go go get it. And you know part
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: part part of the art of hustling is like it's uh,
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: it's it's not only manifestation, but it's about at the
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: end of the day, you know, it's about ownership, you know.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: And uh, for me, you know, my one of the
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: greatest intellectual properties is my is my music, you know,
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: so for the so for example, the deal that I
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: have with even Diabez and how I'm usializing that new
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: platform that's out there for great artists or any any
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: artists out there. If you're independent artists, you want to
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: make eighty percent of the revenue. You want to go
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: from zero point zero three percent streaming wise and have
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: exclusiveivity to where to where you can bring your fanship
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: to one place and and and and and see your
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: and see your streams go from you know, get paid
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: off of your streams, you know, a fraction of a
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: penny versus versus two dollars. I think the two dollars
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: or a dollar twenty five sounds.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Good than me on what platform?
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: And that's even dot biz e V E N dot
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: biz b I Z. And you know, I released the
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Winner of Love project there first, uh, which is which
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: is still doing extremely well. And now you know, I'm
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: doing side artists deals with with with phenomenal artists like
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: the poet Rob Brown who just dropped her project. There's
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: no place like knowing, you know side.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: What does that mean?
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: So that's like Raheem Devon presents. Okay, yeah, yeah, So
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: so you know presenting other artists and using my platform
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: to you know, uh, to to to to expose my
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: fans and music lovers to to new art, you know,
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: new new poetry, you know, phenomenal poets, musicians, you know.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: You know see this, They're gonna ask, well, how do
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: we get our music in front of you so we
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: can get on that radar?
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Oh It's so easy. I mean, I'm not I'm not
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: hard to find. I would say definitely start with the
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Graham Instagram, Rahiem underscored devon uh official website, Raheem Devon
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Online doc Global. You know, I'm you know, sliding the dms.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Some of those dms have blockers? Does your How do
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: you know if yours does or doesn't?
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean one only have one page artist page,
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: and and and those and if you know, you know,
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: I'm very very engaging, you know.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: On the platform.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's you know, how at me, you know
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: what I mean, part of part of, part of, part
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: of being an independent artist. And I think a successful
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: independent artist is it's uh, it's it's it's it's about
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: being accessible to the fans. How how do you like
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: your I just want to say, nice baked potato.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: This is the most inappropriate question I will ever ask
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: a guest.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: But are you?
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Are you single? And the only reason why I'm saying
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: this is, ladies, I'm dating it, Ladies. I gotta say this. Okay,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: I have to say this. This man cooks for you.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: It's the end.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Why is it?
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: What's sweetness? Is it the potato that has this a
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: sweet kick to it?
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: You got a little sweet kick.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: It's probably the sour.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: It's the vegans sour queer.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Well, Jared, you're back there. I promise you this is
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: the best potato you'll ever have in your life. I
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: was nervous for you. Put in that concoction of pepper
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: that that.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Is your average baked potato.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: But did that's a that's a that's a dice, slice
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: and dice mm mm.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: This when's best potato by far. This can win award competition.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to come back.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Are you gonna try it? You're gonna try it? Have
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: you had this before?
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: I got to have a little bit.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something. I'll be honest, the
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: best potato I've ever had in my life. And I
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: am stealing this recipe for life.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: Guys.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: It's vegan sour cream.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: I be I'll be honest with you, peppers, I'll be
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: honest with you. I pulled an audible because I know
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: that we you know, we got time constraints, so I
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: had to be you know, I had to pull audible.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: What an audible? I had to pull an audible. I
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: had to had to pull up. I had to call
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: a play.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: This is the best play of my life.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: Your your your your stove. The electric stove in the
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: other room was not being.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: So I had to how long did you bake those
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: potatoes for?
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: I did the best I could what I had over there,
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: and it just stove over there.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: All I know own is that I texted. I told
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: him this. I texted the booker while I was driving.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I was like, I can't believe we forgot some ingredients.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I'm personally driving to get him, and I texted her
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I said, whoever is dating this man is eating good.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: And then I tried the potato and this is amazing.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: This was amazing because I would have never thought to
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: mix cheese with the peppers the way you did. You
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: may have to release a cookbook. There's something to go
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: out with the albums. You think I'm playing. Is it
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: not delicious?
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, hell delicious?
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's something different, right, yeah, this is the best
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: it is, right? Have you made this at home before?
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: It tastes good right in my tripping.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: Now I'm trying to figure out that's maybe No, I didn't.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: I know, I didn't use his plate to cut ginger. Oh,
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: I know what it is.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: I used the mints, garlic paste and the ginger paste.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: That's where you get to kick the sweet kick.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Where in the when you were doing the onion.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: When I marinated the vegetables. So this is a good
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: like marinate. It's like kind of like my go to
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: so I married, I marinated the vestments and then we
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: topped it with, you know, with the topics.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: The bigger I was thinking it was could have it
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: could have been that you chose red potatoes.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: That's what it did.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: That's what it is. It is bomb right, that was
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: the keys.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: You can't use too much though, you know, ginger can
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: be overbearing, you know, garlic ginger.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Look at the way he's eating at best best, one
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: of the best dishes on the show. I'm glad that
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: you were passionate.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Jallapeno in there. You know what I mean.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: And you know what this also says about you, is
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: that anything that you put your hands to or touch,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: it seems like you go one hundred percent. Because even
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: you could have we gave you. I try to give
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: you a lot of Hey, you don't have to do
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: all this, but I noticed you. We're like, no, if
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: No, we gotta do it right. We gotta do it right.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: You gotta do it right. Yes.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: And I had to listen to Bulletproof the whole time
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: I was shopping for you.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, this is amazing.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: I like this, This is amazing. Right, Yeah, it sucks
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: because oh because I always try to share some with
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Jared Dark camera guy.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: My slice, So this is gonna be my slice baked potato.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Hands on, Beth, the slice baked potato.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: This was just.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Whom you ever streuch it too. Yeah, it's the best potato.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Everything else was great. The potato is the number one
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: best potato and the entire three seasons of Eating Wall Broke. Wow, Yeah,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: you're the champion.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Hear that, guys.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: The goat they're gonna try it. You guys are gonna
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: try it. Is there any way, any way, your fans
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: can keep up with you. I know you mentioned Instagram.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: But we're about to close out, so I want to
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: see if I covered everything or if I'm missing anything.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Once the cameras go down, I'm like wolfing all this
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: stuff down. Can you sing us too? Oh? And he
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: was singing like a little eating while broke song earlier too,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: you were harmonizing us. You could close out with a song. Look,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: he's trying to swallow.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry you can't.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: You can't eat and sing.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: No, No, people hate when we eat and talk too.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: This has been amazing. Thank you for having me.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: It's been an honor tove to feed your belly and.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: And get our kitchen nights and thirty are set nice
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: and thirty. You're like a real cook. Look at that.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: So I want you to I try to make all
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: the singers. I think we had Mario Neo now raheen.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: We want you to sing a reminder.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: You all.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Sing a reminder?
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I have like I had Neil sing like
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: a little and Mario sing a little, and we gotta
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: have you sing a little. We should do a snipe of.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Who I gottatch? I gotta wash it wash it down.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: Jesus, it's so good.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Did you mix it with your smoothie?
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a little smoothie backwash. It's not gonna.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, hate to put you on the spot.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: He was singing earlier in the kitchen when he first
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: got here.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Oh man, they're gonna make my life so complicated.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I love it. I'm gonna do a thing of like
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: you could guess who who sung, who sung?
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: What I'm gonna have to do like a food.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Truck or something you have to I promise those potatoes
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: are gonna sell like hotcakes. Hotcakes.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: This is the best apple juice.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you're talking about. The apple juice
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: and the potato was the best thing that ever happened
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: to anyone's kitchen.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: Mm mmmm. It ain't nothing to lock up.
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: One man, one man, one man, strong, one man, one man.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: Well fed woman yep, fed by Raheem, divine kind of woman.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: Well, it has been another wonderful episode of it. Wow, Broke,
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: I am Rahem, Divine, the love king of soul and
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: R and B. It's been a pleasure to be here.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Peace out y'all for more eating. While Broke
• 53:13
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