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- 0:00Speaker 1: Giants don't have their names on the back of their
- 0:02Speaker 1: home jerseys, and so Brandon wore thirty five Rolander worth.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Thirty five years man because they went up to JV and.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Goes, hey, why are there all these Crawford jerseys in
- 0:09Speaker 1: the stands?
- 0:14Speaker 3: All right? So the Dodgers and the Marlins started up
- 0:16Speaker 3: their series, and it gets a lot of attention because
- 0:19Speaker 3: it is the franchise that's labeled in the Athletics story
- 0:24Speaker 3: from Andy McCullough as the four hundred seventy six million
- 0:28Speaker 3: dollar payroll facing the sixty nine million dollar payroll. It's
- 0:33Speaker 3: the biggest discrepancy we've ever seen, giggoty, thank you. It's
- 0:37Speaker 3: the biggest discrepancy we've ever seen in a matchup. And
- 0:40Speaker 3: you know what, Baseball was the winner because it was
- 0:44Speaker 3: pretty damn close. It was a Tommy Tanks walk off
- 0:47Speaker 3: seven six. Obviously there's a whole series left to go,
- 0:49Speaker 3: but the Dodgers were five nothing too, Yeah, Dane Meyer's
- 0:52Speaker 3: pinchip grand slam. The Marlins are putting up a fight
- 0:55Speaker 3: this year. Got to give him a little credit. So
- 0:58Speaker 3: far through a month in the season, this is not
- 1:01Speaker 3: a bad looking team, and that kind of proves the
- 1:04Speaker 3: point that baseball can help overcome a lot of payroll disparity. Now,
- 1:09Speaker 3: crats of the Marlind's going to win the World Series?
- 1:11Speaker 3: Now are they going to be a playoff team? Not likely?
- 1:13Speaker 3: But the crying from the offseason does feel weird since
- 1:18Speaker 3: the Dodgers in fact do not look like the best
- 1:20Speaker 3: team ever and many people were like, oh, no doubt,
- 1:22Speaker 3: best team ever. I'm definitely taking this team to win
- 1:25Speaker 3: it all over the other twenty nine if I had
- 1:28Speaker 3: an option, right, am I taking the Dodgers or the field?
- 1:31Speaker 3: Like it was so concrete from so many people. Why
- 1:35Speaker 3: play the season? And now you look at this team
- 1:37Speaker 3: and after they're eight and no start, I think they're
- 1:39Speaker 3: eleven and ten. Since then, after just beating the Marlins yesterday,
- 1:44Speaker 3: not saying they're a bad team, but are they the
- 1:46Speaker 3: best team ever through the first month of the season, crats,
- 1:49Speaker 3: And do you think that they're going to break any
- 1:51Speaker 3: type of wins record in the regular season?
- 1:55Speaker 2: Could they?
- 1:55Speaker 4: Absolutely, But it's a lazy narrative to say that they're
- 1:58Speaker 4: just going to win every game. These are competitive people.
- 2:01Speaker 4: I actually have kind of an issue with what was
- 2:04Speaker 4: what Jazz said in the article like, I never played
- 2:07Speaker 4: on a team where I was like, you know what,
- 2:10Speaker 4: every night, you're gonna go out there and you're like, man,
- 2:12Speaker 4: we're gonna lose, or we're.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Just not as good as that team.
- 2:16Speaker 4: I don't that is not at all like the Marlins.
- 2:19Speaker 4: The current roster of the Marlins, while it's not as
- 2:23Speaker 4: glitzy and glamorous, like they want to go out there
- 2:26Speaker 4: and win, and that's the beauty of baseball. I don't
- 2:28Speaker 4: think there's I don't think that's the case in any
- 2:31Speaker 4: other sport. The difference is, I think ownership just needs
- 2:34Speaker 4: to be on the same page. But he look at it.
- 2:37Speaker 4: He looks at it and goes, well, why would I
- 2:39Speaker 4: spend another four point five million dollars on my second
- 2:43Speaker 4: free agent? I already bought one free agent. I can
- 2:45Speaker 4: save my four point five that I'm gonna spend, and
- 2:49Speaker 4: you know, we'll just play out the season.
- 2:50Speaker 2: They don't.
- 2:50Speaker 4: They don't really have a care to win on a
- 2:53Speaker 4: consistent basis, in my opinion.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Being cheap. The Marlins are doing what they have to do.
- 3:03Speaker 1: They're they're rebuilding the organization, they said, but they're spending money.
- 3:07Speaker 1: Here's the problem with Miami and what They have to
- 3:09Speaker 1: understand that the stadium is great when you get to it.
- 3:13Speaker 1: It's just getting to and from it is a pain
- 3:15Speaker 1: in the butt. Parking sucks. Whatever you want to say
- 3:18Speaker 1: about the stadium is fine, okay, but until you put
- 3:21Speaker 1: a consistent winner and you show the team they care.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Because the Heat have no problem getting fans. The Panthers
- 3:27Speaker 1: have no problem packing that place every game. They won
- 3:30Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup last year. They I mean, well.
- 3:33Speaker 3: They didn't always pack the place. But what was the
- 3:35Speaker 3: key difference? What changed?
- 3:36Speaker 1: They started spending money and getting players done right the
- 3:40Speaker 1: Marlins have. Every time the Marlins get players and they've won,
- 3:43Speaker 1: they've traded them away.
- 3:44Speaker 2: Ninety seven to ninety eight, two thousand and three to
- 3:46Speaker 2: two thousand.
- 3:47Speaker 3: And four, the Stanton era, they traded stand there.
- 3:50Speaker 1: They got that. I mean, they needed some more pieces.
- 3:52Speaker 1: They were gonna win, but they could have added some
- 3:54Speaker 1: pieces and been closer.
- 3:55Speaker 3: Right. So the Stanton era was another.
- 3:56Speaker 1: Time Fernandez tragedy hurt some time. But every time they
- 4:01Speaker 1: traded stand they traded Yellows, They traded o Zoo, They
- 4:03Speaker 1: traded a real moot too.
- 4:03Speaker 2: They traded Dee Gordon, They traded all these guys two
- 4:07Speaker 2: years ago they made the playoffs and then they didn't
- 4:09Speaker 2: do anything. They sold off their team again. That's kind
- 4:11Speaker 2: of my point. They told the manager he's not coming
- 4:14Speaker 2: back after.
- 4:14Speaker 1: They made the playoffs the year before, right, they surprised everybody,
- 4:17Speaker 1: and what was the COVID year they made the playoffs,
- 4:20Speaker 1: didn't do anything right.
- 4:21Speaker 2: So there's been nucholas is there.
- 4:23Speaker 1: But if you don't, if you never connect with your city,
- 4:26Speaker 1: and you never connect with your fans, and you always
- 4:28Speaker 1: are they're always just waiting talk to any Marlins and
- 4:30Speaker 1: they're like, ah, I like going to the games, but
- 4:33Speaker 1: I know they're gonna suck, and I know if they
- 4:34Speaker 1: get good, they're gonna get rid.
- 4:35Speaker 2: Of the team.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Until you find somebody that can go in there and
- 4:37Speaker 1: figure out how to have a consistent winner, people aren't
- 4:40Speaker 1: going to connect because people love the Heat games. Because
- 4:42Speaker 1: why it's Bolster and pat Riley. They get to the
- 4:44Speaker 1: playoffs every year. They usually are pretty good. Now, they
- 4:47Speaker 1: got crushed last night by the Cavs. It was about
- 4:50Speaker 1: fifty five or something, but it happens, right, But the
- 4:53Speaker 1: Panthers are good. They pack it, just put them. Here's
- 4:56Speaker 1: the ultimate thing.
- 4:57Speaker 2: I'll say.
- 4:58Speaker 1: Okay, Tampa Bay Lightning. Okay, Florida is growing in hockey,
- 5:03Speaker 1: but it's not. I wasn't raised on hockey. We didn't
- 5:05Speaker 1: even know what hockey was.
- 5:06Speaker 2: Really.
- 5:07Speaker 1: Lightning win a couple of Stanley Cups and they're consistently good.
- 5:10Speaker 3: You can't get a ticket.
- 5:11Speaker 2: To the Lightning games now.
- 5:13Speaker 1: Ten years ago, yeah you could go, but now because
- 5:16Speaker 1: they're good all the time.
- 5:17Speaker 2: People want to go.
- 5:18Speaker 1: Orlando Magic in Orlando when they're decent, and they're pretty
- 5:21Speaker 1: good right now. I mean they're gonna lose to the Celtics,
- 5:22Speaker 1: but they're pretty good. People want to go to the games.
- 5:25Speaker 1: For years, they suck. Nobody wanted to go. Why am
- 5:27Speaker 1: I gonna waste some one of the team that's gonna
- 5:29Speaker 1: lose If you don't have the history, No, if you're
- 5:31Speaker 1: the Cubs and the Dodgers and the Red Yankees and
- 5:35Speaker 1: the Red and you have a longer history of people,
- 5:37Speaker 1: and then yes, But if you're a newersh franchise and
- 5:39Speaker 1: you don't make people want to come, they're not gonna come.
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- 6:46Speaker 3: So the Marlins are trying to reset themselves by doing
- 6:51Speaker 3: things differently. That's part of what this article in The
- 6:54Speaker 3: Athletic was going over. You know, the last couple off seasons.
- 6:58Speaker 3: In addition to rebuilding in the past year, they're trying
- 7:01Speaker 3: to rebuild the skeleton, the core of what they've got right,
- 7:06Speaker 3: the international facilities, the staff, stuff like that. Why are
- 7:11Speaker 3: you looking at me confused?
- 7:13Speaker 2: No, I'm confused about what they're doing. But I right,
- 7:16Speaker 2: that's more of that.
- 7:18Speaker 3: Do you believe that that's necessary and that's a valid
- 7:24Speaker 3: excuse for how to do things? Because I can actually
- 7:27Speaker 3: present that point. Now, Do I think Kim Ang should
- 7:30Speaker 3: still be part of this team and running the team?
- 7:33Speaker 4: Yes?
- 7:34Speaker 3: But Kratz, I mean they clearly did an evaluation and
- 7:37Speaker 3: said that we need to change the core of what
- 7:39Speaker 3: we're doing. Can I use an example here? The New
- 7:43Speaker 3: York Mets had spent money in the past, sometimes as
- 7:46Speaker 3: much as any team in baseball, or the most in baseball,
- 7:48Speaker 3: and it still wouldn't work. They seem to have a
- 7:51Speaker 3: better flow going last year and this year. What do
- 7:55Speaker 3: you think is the biggest difference with the Mets right now?
- 8:02Speaker 3: You mean why they're trying to lead you to. I'm
- 8:05Speaker 3: trying to lead you to somebody that you know, right, right?
- 8:08Speaker 3: But even okay, go behind that. And obviously.
- 8:12Speaker 2: David Sterns.
- 8:13Speaker 3: So what did David Starns do?
- 8:15Speaker 4: He was tasked with building a team but also had money.
- 8:19Speaker 4: He built the team the way that he felt like
- 8:22Speaker 4: it was going to be successful or that he had
- 8:24Speaker 4: success in Milwaukee and now he just has quite a
- 8:27Speaker 4: bit extra cash to spend with it.
- 8:32Speaker 3: And what about the core behind the scenes, the staff
- 8:35Speaker 3: that he has brought in, the development tools that they're
- 8:40Speaker 3: using now in the past couple of years that some
- 8:42Speaker 3: of the Mets, especially pitchers, have been really excited to
- 8:46Speaker 3: talk about. Right, There's been a few guys that have
- 8:48Speaker 3: said that they feel like they're the most and if
- 8:51Speaker 3: not the most one of the top teams in terms
- 8:55Speaker 3: of technology and advancements to help them be as good
- 8:58Speaker 3: as they can be. And it seems like like that
- 9:00Speaker 3: helps the pitching department more than anything else.
- 9:03Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I mean they took Sevy Severino last Severino
- 9:08Speaker 4: came down last year and used the pitching lab. The
- 9:10Speaker 4: pitching the pitching lab is not something that you're just
- 9:13Speaker 4: like every day you're in there grind and you work
- 9:16Speaker 4: on a few things with elite players. Big leaguers are
- 9:19Speaker 4: elite players, and then you get the most of that
- 9:22Speaker 4: value out of it. And they have that there for guys,
- 9:25Speaker 4: and now they're going to start developing that from the
- 9:28Speaker 4: minor leagues and feeding their system. That's finding that extra
- 9:32Speaker 4: surplus value in in pitching has been really a huge
- 9:36Speaker 4: key for them.
- 9:41Speaker 1: They have to they have to if they're not going
- 9:42Speaker 1: to spend money. You have to be perfect and on
- 9:45Speaker 1: the margins. And that's the team's all. Every team you're
- 9:47Speaker 1: talking about, that isn't you know, four hundred million dollars payrolls, Like,
- 9:50Speaker 1: we got to win the margins. You got to win
- 9:51Speaker 1: the margins. Well, how do you find the margins? And
- 9:54Speaker 1: then if you do find the margins, you've got to
- 9:55Speaker 1: be really good at Like the Rays for a long
- 9:56Speaker 1: time are really good at finding certain things, right. That's
- 9:59Speaker 1: why they're always kind of win more games, and people
- 10:01Speaker 1: think they were going to because they could do certain
- 10:03Speaker 1: things and they would use guys certain ways, pitchers wise,
- 10:06Speaker 1: and they do crazy things. This if you're gonna do
- 10:09Speaker 1: it this way, you have to be so perfect. And
- 10:12Speaker 1: there's such a small fine line to getting to prosperity
- 10:17Speaker 1: and winning. It's really hard. I'm sorry, it's really hard.
- 10:22Speaker 1: It's hard to win anyways, but it's it's even more
- 10:25Speaker 1: difficult if you have a smaller line to make it work, right,
- 10:30Speaker 1: a smaller whatever you want to call it, a smaller
- 10:32Speaker 1: way to because krat you know this. If you're the
- 10:35Speaker 1: Dodgers and you have this payroll and you keep losing starters,
- 10:39Speaker 1: they go down to Triple A and they have guys
- 10:41Speaker 1: stockpiled there that other teams don't have, and they bring
- 10:44Speaker 1: them up and now, yes they're not glass, now they're
- 10:46Speaker 1: not small, they're not those guys, but there they can
- 10:48Speaker 1: be serviceable major league starters until they get their guys back.
- 10:52Speaker 1: And that's how they The difference in the four hundred
- 10:54Speaker 1: million dollars pay roll and the sixty million dollars pay
- 10:57Speaker 1: roll is it's not the big league team. Yes, there's
- 10:59Speaker 1: a discrepancy in talent, in productivity, but it's the next
- 11:03Speaker 1: line and even the next line of guys that can
- 11:04Speaker 1: come up and fill in because they don't have to
- 11:07Speaker 1: trade their guys and keep replenishing. They have guys stock
- 11:10Speaker 1: polled in the minor leagues that can bring up and say, hey,
- 11:12Speaker 1: we need you.
- 11:12Speaker 2: To start for two weeks. Okay, I can do this,
- 11:15Speaker 2: I'm ready.
- 11:16Speaker 4: Dodgers have really gotten a good balance of being able
- 11:19Speaker 4: to trade those prospects and also signing the guys that
- 11:23Speaker 4: they trade for, not just like you know, we'll take
- 11:26Speaker 4: a rental. I mean, Jack Flaherty was a rental, but
- 11:28Speaker 4: he was you know, he was coming into free agency.
- 11:31Speaker 4: They traded for Tommy Edmond because they felt like there
- 11:34Speaker 4: was some value there that they could extend a guy.
- 11:37Speaker 4: They traded for Mookie Betts a few years ago, extended him.
- 11:41Speaker 4: Like they're they're trading when they trade, when they trade
- 11:45Speaker 4: some of these prospects, they're looking to the future, not
- 11:49Speaker 4: just not specifically just for one year. And for the
- 11:54Speaker 4: Marlins to be able to keep up with this, yes,
- 11:56Speaker 4: you said they have to be perfect, but they also
- 11:59Speaker 4: have to be open to try things that are gonna
- 12:03Speaker 4: look like it's kind of weird because the Rays did
- 12:06Speaker 4: a lot of that stuff and they found success in
- 12:09Speaker 4: it as long as they keep their ego out of it.
- 12:12Speaker 4: The Rays, a lot of the people in the front
- 12:14Speaker 4: office and the big league staff, they kept their ego
- 12:17Speaker 4: out of it, and they're like, look, we want to listen.
- 12:19Speaker 4: We want to listen and hear what there is to
- 12:21Speaker 4: be had out there, and we want to try it.
- 12:23Speaker 4: If it doesn't work, it's fine, we'll go back to
- 12:26Speaker 4: the drawing board again. So the Marlins, if they're gonna
- 12:29Speaker 4: do it this way, if they're gonna try new things,
- 12:32Speaker 4: having pictures, not throw sides, only throwing to live hitters,
- 12:36Speaker 4: hitters coming out of home depot for a rental, for rentals,
- 12:41Speaker 4: all this stuff. They have to take their ego out
- 12:43Speaker 4: of it and be like and I'd be like, well,
- 12:44Speaker 4: I came up with this idea. So this is why
- 12:47Speaker 4: the Marlins are so good. Everybody needs to check their
- 12:50Speaker 4: ego at the door for this to work for the Marlins.
- 12:54Speaker 1: Also, here's my thing on this. We're talking salary, right,
- 12:58Speaker 1: what's coming up after next year?
- 13:00Speaker 2: A CBA? What do the owners want?
- 13:05Speaker 1: A salary cap? So what are they going to keep
- 13:07Speaker 1: hammering all the time. Oh, look at this team, and
- 13:10Speaker 1: we can't afford to do that. We need a cap.
- 13:12Speaker 1: So this team has to spend less and oh then
- 13:15Speaker 1: we might be able to compete. But when we had
- 13:16Speaker 1: Andrew Miller on what he say, the NFL is not perfect.
- 13:19Speaker 1: They still have labor disputes. NBA is not perfect. They
- 13:21Speaker 1: have a cap, they still have labor disputes. It's all bargaining.
- 13:25Speaker 1: It's all bargaining. I appreciate. We're gonna talk to Andy
- 13:27Speaker 1: here in a minute about it. But of course the
- 13:29Speaker 1: Marlin's gonna be.
- 13:30Speaker 2: Like, oh, we're so poor. Oh, we're so poor.
- 13:31Speaker 1: We can't afford to play in the same league. They've
- 13:35Speaker 1: won two World Series more than once. It's been a minute,
- 13:38Speaker 1: but that's more than the Mariners, Padres, Nationals.
- 13:42Speaker 2: Brece Brewers keep going.
- 13:45Speaker 1: There's more White Sox in my lifetime when it talks
- 13:48Speaker 1: in my Lifetimeland.
- 13:49Speaker 2: Has it won Cleveland in my lifetime?
- 13:52Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's a whole list of teams they've
- 13:54Speaker 1: won more than so they can they can do it
- 13:56Speaker 1: if they figure it out.
- 13:57Speaker 2: But it's just really hard to figure out.
- 13:59Speaker 3: We've got in an update since yesterday's show about Glass now,
- 14:02Speaker 3: so apparently the shoulder is structurally sound and he's dealing
- 14:08Speaker 3: with Dave Roberts what Dave Roberts describes as overall body
- 14:12Speaker 3: soreness in addition to the shoulder discomfort. So, okay, I
- 14:18Speaker 3: feel like they just with some of these guys, they're
- 14:20Speaker 3: just going through a marathon and they're like, can.
- 14:22Speaker 2: We have him ready for the postseason? Yeah, that's it,
- 14:27Speaker 2: that's what they're That's exactly what they're doing.
- 14:29Speaker 3: But also, I mean stuff they're like win regular season games,
- 14:33Speaker 3: which they'll do, and I don't think, like Andy said, Hey,
- 14:36Speaker 3: it's a given they're they're going to win the division.
- 14:37Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a given.
- 14:38Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a given. Yeah, because there's
- 14:40Speaker 1: a couple other teams that are pretty good.
- 14:42Speaker 3: Right, so you need to have your elite starters there.
- 14:45Speaker 3: At some point you need to win, you do. They're
- 14:47Speaker 3: gonna win, But are they going to win one hundred
- 14:50Speaker 3: five games? This is going to pop up a lot.
- 14:55Speaker 2: But listen, all they care about is October. Totally have
- 14:57Speaker 2: a good feeling they're going to get there. Now.
- 14:58Speaker 1: They don't make the playof that's a huge story, but
- 15:02Speaker 1: them getting beat in the playoffs is not as big
- 15:04Speaker 1: of a story. I mean, I know everyone expect them
- 15:06Speaker 1: to go undefeated and never lose, but it's just baseball.
- 15:09Speaker 2: It's not going to happen.
- 15:10Speaker 1: You have injuries, you have bad days, you have a
- 15:12Speaker 1: picture that's really good one day, and.
- 15:14Speaker 2: I don't know, but if they don't make the postseason,
- 15:16Speaker 2: then we'll have Yeah.
- 15:17Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they'll be okay. But match with the
- 15:19Speaker 3: Dodgers right now first place in the West. Padres a
- 15:21Speaker 3: game and a half back shouting out a couple other
- 15:23Speaker 3: things from yesterday. The Mets did recover from their tough
- 15:28Speaker 3: Sunday loss, where the Nationals had a little time against them,
- 15:32Speaker 3: taking two of the first three, and then the Mets
- 15:34Speaker 3: decided to score nineteen in yesterday's capper nineteen to five.
- 15:40Speaker 3: The victory, McNeil's back Brandon Neimo had nine ribbies and
- 15:44Speaker 3: two homers. That's good offense, Crats.
- 15:48Speaker 4: And those nine ribbies came in three innings. His last
- 15:51Speaker 4: three at bats, it was just steak them, steak them, steakum.
- 15:54Speaker 4: Took a position player to get them out. But yeah,
- 15:58Speaker 4: their offenses, there's no joke.
- 16:01Speaker 2: They're pitching.
- 16:03Speaker 4: Kind of faltered a little bit the two games at
- 16:05Speaker 4: the Nats beat them, but you want to make an
- 16:08Speaker 4: exclamation point on the end of a wrap around series,
- 16:12Speaker 4: that's it. They came out, yeah, banging.
- 16:16Speaker 3: And then also the Orioles won their first battle against
- 16:18Speaker 3: the Yankees of the year. Chicano was really good. Lot
- 16:21Speaker 3: of swing and miss five innings eight k's Bautista closed
- 16:23Speaker 3: out of four to three win. We're gonna talk to
- 16:25Speaker 3: Ken about his Orioles column, but it's getting late quick.
- 16:29Speaker 3: They got to get back on track.
- 16:30Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in Baltimore this weekend. I'll get the Scooper.
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- 16:40Speaker 3: You can't fall behind.
- 16:41Speaker 2: No Yankees aren't going anywhere. The Red Sox are gonna
- 16:44Speaker 2: be there till the end. The Blue Jays are playing better,
- 16:46Speaker 2: They're pitching better. I think they could ever hit.
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- 18:01Speaker 3: over some games from yesterday. Two hot teams in the Midwest.
- 18:04Speaker 3: We will start with the Cincinnati Reds three to one
- 18:07Speaker 3: victory over the Cardinals last night, so they have won
- 18:11Speaker 3: a season high at five in a row. They are
- 18:13Speaker 3: sixteen and thirteen on the season. Nick Martinez pitched well
- 18:17Speaker 3: for them in last night's contests, so they're in second
- 18:20Speaker 3: place in the Central, one game back of the Chicago Cubs.
- 18:26Speaker 3: I don't feel like the Reds have played their best
- 18:27Speaker 3: ball until right about now.
- 18:29Speaker 1: Not about who you play, but when you play them,
- 18:31Speaker 1: and they're playing the right teams at the right time
- 18:33Speaker 1: right now, and.
- 18:34Speaker 2: They're taking advantage of it. Give them credit. I mean
- 18:36Speaker 2: Saint Louis Struggle Bus on the road.
- 18:38Speaker 1: They also went to Colorado in one, you know, so
- 18:41Speaker 1: they listen, they're they're beating the teams are supposed to beat, right,
- 18:45Speaker 1: they beat the marl and they beat up on the Marlins, right,
- 18:48Speaker 1: they beat up on the Rockies. Then they took advantage
- 18:50Speaker 1: of the Cardinals. They they can't win on the road,
- 18:53Speaker 1: so are they. This is a team the crowds picked
- 18:56Speaker 1: to win the World Series, not only the division. They're
- 18:59Speaker 1: playing well right now. By the way, Jose Travino's mask
- 19:01Speaker 1: is fire with the Bengal Tiger stripes on it, so
- 19:03Speaker 1: good job of Hosey used to be our friend. But yeah,
- 19:07Speaker 1: they're playing well right now. And listen, nobody doubted the
- 19:10Speaker 1: talent on this team is just a matter. Could Tito
- 19:11Speaker 1: francon To get it together right now, he's got it together, could.
- 19:15Speaker 4: Pick up with lux Tito Francona knows how to win.
- 19:19Speaker 4: This team's gonna they're gonna get hot as the summer
- 19:21Speaker 4: goes on. That's why I picked them, not to win
- 19:25Speaker 4: the World Series, to win the division. But listen, the
- 19:29Speaker 4: Cubs have played a much tougher schedule. The Reds still
- 19:33Speaker 4: have some stuff they need to iron out, but to
- 19:34Speaker 4: win a three to one game in Cincy that's huge.
- 19:40Speaker 3: Thoughts on this division, Crats, I think it's.
- 19:44Speaker 4: Still I think it's I think it's still the Reds Division.
- 19:47Speaker 4: I think their depth and their starting rotation is better.
- 19:51Speaker 4: I think their lineup is deeper. I don't think Jose
- 19:54Speaker 4: Travigno is gonna hit three forty all year, so I
- 19:57Speaker 4: think they're gonna need the guys like Spencer Year, Freedol
- 20:03Speaker 4: obviously Ellie to continue what he's doing, and Carnosi and
- 20:07Speaker 4: Strand those guys to step up in the lineup. But
- 20:12Speaker 4: I think they have more I don't think they're peaking
- 20:15Speaker 4: right now. I think they have more depth, and I
- 20:18Speaker 4: think they have an ability to win more games the
- 20:22Speaker 4: way that they play. I think the Cubs will fall
- 20:24Speaker 4: a little bit short of them in the division. I'm
- 20:27Speaker 4: not saying they're not a playoff team. I'm saying in
- 20:29Speaker 4: the division, I think it's still the Reds.
- 20:33Speaker 3: Let's flip it to the other Central Division. We have
- 20:37Speaker 3: certainly given some plaque to the Minnesota Twins. I mean,
- 20:41Speaker 3: as everyone has for their collapse last year in the
- 20:43Speaker 3: second half and then their start to this season. They
- 20:46Speaker 3: won six of seven.
- 20:48Speaker 2: Who have they played against? White Tucks, the Angels, the Angels.
- 20:54Speaker 1: Angels, yep, and now they'd be beat the Guardians on
- 21:00Speaker 1: the road yesterday.
- 21:02Speaker 2: But who have they? It always looks you never us
- 21:05Speaker 2: say it matters more than anyone. Who are you playing?
- 21:08Speaker 2: I'm just kidding, but you gotta beat the teams you're
- 21:09Speaker 2: supposed to be got in. Both these teams have done it, yes, right.
- 21:13Speaker 1: When you play the White Sox, you're supposed to win
- 21:14Speaker 1: minimum two out of three. When you play the Rockies,
- 21:16Speaker 1: you're supposed to win minimum two out of three. When
- 21:19Speaker 1: you play an Angels team that gets into six in
- 21:21Speaker 1: the morning and is really beat up, you're supposed to
- 21:23Speaker 1: win two out of three and they swept them.
- 21:24Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy? How we did that story? What was
- 21:26Speaker 3: that last Thursday when you guys were on? And it
- 21:31Speaker 3: might completely change the Angel season? Of course, some people
- 21:35Speaker 3: are like, oh, I've done red Eyes and then I
- 21:39Speaker 3: go right into my business meeting. I'm like, you're a
- 21:41Speaker 3: loser if you're trying to compare that. You're sitting in
- 21:45Speaker 3: a freaking board meeting and you think that you're you're
- 21:47Speaker 3: a freaking superstar. Get out of here. Somebody was like,
- 21:51Speaker 3: I feel so bad to the players. Oh man, you
- 21:54Speaker 3: got no sleep and you have to hit a baseball
- 21:56Speaker 3: Like people said that seriously in the comments. Some but
- 22:01Speaker 3: there were some suits out there, some stock market superstars
- 22:04Speaker 3: that thought, you know, if they sit in a meeting
- 22:06Speaker 3: and have to hear a PowerPoint presentation for an hour,
- 22:09Speaker 3: that baseball players should be able to hit ninety eight
- 22:12Speaker 3: with spin.
- 22:14Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I just said, yesterday was a minor
- 22:16Speaker 4: league thing for the Angels organization to do. They put
- 22:19Speaker 4: them in a situation where they backed them in the
- 22:23Speaker 4: sense that we're backing you the fact that we don't
- 22:26Speaker 4: care if you win or lose, because we're not putting
- 22:28Speaker 4: you like organizations are. They're having like sleep specialists. They're
- 22:33Speaker 4: consulting their sleep specialists when they're saying we should leave
- 22:36Speaker 4: on an off day because of time change and getting
- 22:39Speaker 4: into the next city. Give your team every opportunity to win,
- 22:44Speaker 4: and to me to get the extra five thousand seats,
- 22:47Speaker 4: five thousand bucks in the seats, just to do that
- 22:51Speaker 4: very minor.
- 22:51Speaker 2: League thing to do.
- 22:54Speaker 1: Anyways, speaking of taking red ice crowch I flew the
- 22:56Speaker 1: red Eye from San Francisco on Sunday night to get
- 22:58Speaker 1: here for your Monday show. Yes, in the show and
- 23:01Speaker 1: as I was in the airport a guy stopped me
- 23:03Speaker 1: a fan, but I didn't get his name. I felt
- 23:04Speaker 1: bat i'd give him a shout up. So but he's like, man,
- 23:06Speaker 1: I watch you guys every day. Thank you so much
- 23:08Speaker 1: for the content. Nice and but so if you're listening,
- 23:12Speaker 1: I don't know what your name is, shoot us a chat.
- 23:14Speaker 2: Comment the chat, yeah, and I'll say your name. But
- 23:17Speaker 2: it was really cool of you to say that while
- 23:20Speaker 2: I was in the security line.
- 23:21Speaker 3: That's really cool.
- 23:22Speaker 1: So, speaking of red eyes, it just popped into my
- 23:24Speaker 1: head that there was a red eye and the guy
- 23:27Speaker 1: wasn't on my flight.
- 23:27Speaker 2: He went in a different way.
- 23:28Speaker 3: But still one of my life goals crats you'll like
- 23:32Speaker 3: this is to have a j get more taps on
- 23:37Speaker 3: the shoulder. I love foul Territory than taps on the shoulder.
- 23:39Speaker 3: I love the five white Sox. I know we got
- 23:42Speaker 3: a ways to go, but.
- 23:43Speaker 1: I get a lot of you do. I get a
- 23:45Speaker 1: lot of foul. You know how many times I've been
- 23:47Speaker 1: walking and people are like, you're the foul territory guy.
- 23:50Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, I am, that's right all the time.
- 23:55Speaker 2: So good job, social media team.
- 23:58Speaker 4: I would love for Scott to make it to a
- 24:00Speaker 4: flight before three minutes before the door shut. That's that's
- 24:03Speaker 4: my goal for an airport. But yes, I get the same.
- 24:07Speaker 4: Nobody ever recognizes me anywhere for my playing. So now
- 24:10Speaker 4: when I do get recognized, and it's more than it's
- 24:14Speaker 4: more than I thought it was gonna be. For foul territory.
- 24:17Speaker 4: Just at the Pirates game the other day, guy was.
- 24:19Speaker 2: Like, oh you you're You're a foul territory. I love that.
- 24:23Speaker 4: It's like, I don't love AJ that much, but man
- 24:25Speaker 4: do I love Todd.
- 24:27Speaker 2: So that's cool. That's just top play for the Pirates.
- 24:32Speaker 2: I didn't like three minutes.
- 24:36Speaker 3: Yeah uh. Anyway, that was better than box scores almost
- 24:40Speaker 3: every day. Running through some stuff we missed from yesterday.
- 24:43Speaker 3: Just giving a little up to the Midwest teams for
- 24:45Speaker 3: doing what they're supposed to do, but at least getting
- 24:46Speaker 3: themselves back in a good place in the standings, because
- 24:49Speaker 3: who you play at a certain time of the season
- 24:52Speaker 3: matters a ton. Anyway, I'm in shot com slash foul
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- 25:04Speaker 3: The Cubs are the only team to have played zero
- 25:07Speaker 3: teams sub five hundred. That's actually pretty rare to get
- 25:11Speaker 3: this deep into the season and have that on your ledger.
- 25:14Speaker 3: The Mets are the only team that have played or
- 25:18Speaker 3: they've played the most games against teams sub five hundred.
- 25:22Speaker 3: Looks like twenty games against team sub five hundred. So
- 25:27Speaker 3: just to show the discrepancy here, and you're gonna have
- 25:30Speaker 3: to help me out to read because my eye's not
- 25:31Speaker 3: recovered yet, but here we go. Number of games played
- 25:34Speaker 3: against teams currently below five hundred, the metsa twenty lead
- 25:37Speaker 3: the Pack Cubs. On the other end, Rangers have only
- 25:39Speaker 3: played three in that department, only six games against sub
- 25:43Speaker 3: five hundred teams for the Mariners and Krats. A couple
- 25:46Speaker 3: other teams that have played against really good ball clubs,
- 25:49Speaker 3: the Guardians, the Twins, the Red Sox, and the Reds.
- 25:53Speaker 4: Some of this is like the Mets have swept teams
- 25:57Speaker 4: too and pushed them under five hundred. So's there's part
- 26:02Speaker 4: of that too, but it's not they'll take it all
- 26:05Speaker 4: away from the Mets.
- 26:06Speaker 2: But that's why I said.
- 26:07Speaker 4: That's why I said. I didn't realize the Rangers had
- 26:09Speaker 4: played so many good teams, but the Mariners we talked
- 26:11Speaker 4: about the other day, Mariners and Cubs have played some
- 26:14Speaker 4: really good teams and they've been doing well. So it's
- 26:19Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's a cool stat but
- 26:22Speaker 4: right around the middle or even the Mets, like they
- 26:25Speaker 4: caused some teams to be under five hundred the way
- 26:27Speaker 4: they've been beating up on them.
- 26:29Speaker 3: Mm hmm. All right, we got about a minute until
- 26:31Speaker 3: we're back. What we'll do next is we're gonna do
- 26:34Speaker 3: first month takeaways. I know the season started in late March,
- 26:38Speaker 3: but as we conclude April, we like to call it
- 26:41Speaker 3: a nice clean first month or so of the season.
- 26:43Speaker 3: So we'll not just look at teams. We'll more look
- 26:46Speaker 3: at themes that have won. And obviously some losers on
- 26:50Speaker 3: that side too. Will play it off an article that
- 26:52Speaker 3: we dug up, and we'll do that next. If you
- 26:54Speaker 3: have any thoughts in the chat, you can let us
- 26:57Speaker 3: know too in the comments. Any first month winner or losers,
- 27:01Speaker 3: not that I can necessarily see it right now, is struggling.
- 27:06Speaker 3: AJ's shaking his head. Of course, AJ has never scratched
- 27:10Speaker 3: his cornea before because he's just.
- 27:12Speaker 2: Don't stick things in my eyes Scott.
- 27:14Speaker 3: I often don't either, but I'll scratch.
- 27:18Speaker 2: Your back Scott, but I won't scratch your cornea.
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- 28:25Speaker 3: actually cue this one up. I just saw someone say, hey,
- 28:28Speaker 3: justin what do we got on the Padres Giants series.
- 28:32Speaker 3: It's a good one. Nineteen and ten Giants, seventeen and
- 28:35Speaker 3: eleven Padres. I think if you told people that before
- 28:37Speaker 3: the season started that both teams would be in this
- 28:40Speaker 3: spot right now, you would get some surprises. All right, krat.
- 28:46Speaker 4: Hundred percent. But both teams are playing well. I thought
- 28:49Speaker 4: the Padres were gonna be invincible at home. They show
- 28:52Speaker 4: they're not the Rays. We're doing some things. I just
- 28:56Speaker 4: it's it's kind of like pitching in defense versus the offense.
- 28:59Speaker 4: And yet the Padres bullpen and their starting rotation has
- 29:03Speaker 4: been awesome. Both teams are hitting on all cylinders right now. Dude,
- 29:08Speaker 4: The Giants bullpen is ridiculously good. By the way, everyone
- 29:11Speaker 4: talking about Padre's bullpen, look at the Giants bullpen's numbers.
- 29:15Speaker 2: Their ball's back who.
- 29:18Speaker 3: Found it again? Struggling struggling that's the scary part. You
- 29:26Speaker 3: know he's gonna get back on track.
- 29:29Speaker 1: They got some funky arms in that Giants pen. I
- 29:31Speaker 1: saw him against Texas Dad sidearm, righty side arm, lefty
- 29:35Speaker 1: walker throwing like over here.
- 29:37Speaker 2: You know they got duval on one hundred. I mean
- 29:39Speaker 2: they got some funk.
- 29:41Speaker 3: Isn't that the key? We talked about this a lot.
- 29:44Speaker 3: The race have done a nice job of this, right
- 29:45Speaker 3: You look at the Rays. They never pay much for
- 29:47Speaker 3: their bullpen and you often see it successful and there's
- 29:51Speaker 3: a ton of variety there. The Giants do that really well,
- 29:55Speaker 3: especially this year. You know who I'd liked Randy Rodriguez
- 29:58Speaker 3: m That dude's bringing it apparently tad It. I didn't
- 30:02Speaker 3: know about him and the miners. He couldn't throw strikes,
- 30:05Speaker 3: and they said it's a huge development. They're very important.
- 30:09Speaker 3: But they figured it out for him. He figured out
- 30:11Speaker 3: how to throw strikes, bring the walk right down, get
- 30:14Speaker 3: the control up, and he looks really good. It's a
- 30:17Speaker 3: good bullpen. Probably not a ton of names that you know,
- 30:20Speaker 3: but if you're staying up late, check out that series
- 30:23Speaker 3: by Dreson Giants and I know short, I know, but
- 30:27Speaker 3: this is the gift fun who the rock? Wow, lovely, lovely.
- 30:33Speaker 3: It's a nice break, guys. Let's go hard for two games,
- 30:36Speaker 3: then we get maybe the worst team of all time.
- 30:39Speaker 3: But tonight you've got Logan Webb one nine eight r A.
- 30:41Speaker 3: Nick Povett has got a one to two oh e R.
- 30:44Speaker 3: What a freaking signing. How many teams said no to
- 30:46Speaker 3: him this offseason because of a qualifying offer? You're that
- 30:50Speaker 3: worried about a qualifying offer that you don't want to
- 30:52Speaker 3: pick up a guy with high potential. Front offices have
- 30:55Speaker 3: always liked him, They've liked his stuff, right, you just
- 30:59Speaker 3: haven't seen the Res. You're getting the results right now.
- 31:02Speaker 3: Thirty innings, sixteen hits in thirty innings and thirty strikeouts,
- 31:06Speaker 3: seven walks. He's given up one homer this.
- 31:08Speaker 2: Year and King, so that's another good pitching MATCHO.
- 31:12Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Soto trade for the Padres. If you're gonna
- 31:16Speaker 3: trade a superstar like that, that's the return that you
- 31:19Speaker 3: want to get. Michael King has been awesome now for
- 31:21Speaker 3: two years with San Diego. So anyway, good call out.
- 31:25Speaker 3: I wanted to make sure we give that a little
- 31:26Speaker 3: bit of love. Let's slap crats hats. What do you
- 31:44Speaker 3: have for us today?
- 31:46Speaker 4: Team that hasn't played anybody under five hundred? Even though
- 31:51Speaker 4: if they had beaten the Phillies the second game of
- 31:53Speaker 4: the series. That would have been playing a team under
- 31:56Speaker 4: five hundred, but they ended up losing, so they didn't
- 31:59Speaker 4: Such a cool such a cool hat. I know it's
- 32:01Speaker 4: not the real Chicago, but man, do I not like
- 32:04Speaker 4: their city connect ats just saying mm.
- 32:07Speaker 3: Hmm, very nice. The baby Tomorrow, Pete Fairbanks will join us.
- 32:13Speaker 3: Always a fun conversation. He's one of the better guys
- 32:17Speaker 3: to talk to in the league. And even you know,
- 32:19Speaker 3: when he has the bad outings, it often goes.
- 32:22Speaker 1: She's better when he has a bad outing, better interview,
- 32:24Speaker 1: it's better for him.
- 32:26Speaker 2: But it's just he says some good stuff.
- 32:28Speaker 3: He humbles himself. Like I said, do you know who?
- 32:32Speaker 3: Just a few other guest list comments. You know who's
- 32:34Speaker 3: joining us on Thursday, Tea Nuts, Tory Hunter. T Nuts
- 32:39Speaker 3: is the nickname. Okay, we'll have to learn about that one.
- 32:43Speaker 3: He's too, Teas two Eyes, two Eyes, and Teas Tory Hunter.
- 32:47Speaker 2: I got a lot of questions for old Tory.
- 32:49Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, you know what sparked this. We were like, oh,
- 32:51Speaker 3: we gotta get Torri on the show. It was the
- 32:53Speaker 3: story I don't remember you that told it or someone
- 32:55Speaker 3: else told it where I think it was you where
- 32:58Speaker 3: Tory was called up.
- 33:00Speaker 2: Yeah, he said it was true. Yeah, it's a true story.
- 33:04Speaker 3: It's a great story. I want I want him to
- 33:06Speaker 3: tell it on here.
- 33:06Speaker 1: There's a lot Listen, there's a I got some serious
- 33:09Speaker 1: questions for toy. Okay, we played together a long time.
- 33:12Speaker 2: We know, we know each other. We played four against
- 33:14Speaker 2: you know, with each other against each other.
- 33:16Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna'm gonna ask him some stories, y'all
- 33:18Speaker 1: are y'all might not believe them, but they're true.
- 33:20Speaker 2: Asking about when we ask him about the time in.
- 33:22Speaker 1: Bowie and Bowie, what he did he got a hit
- 33:26Speaker 1: and he got ejected, and there trusted Danny Bias when
- 33:29Speaker 1: he threw the ball back and Danny.
- 33:30Speaker 2: Bias after Bias hit him. We're gonna get into that.
- 33:33Speaker 1: There's a lot of Tory hunters when the White Sox
- 33:36Speaker 1: tried to get him to come and he went to
- 33:37Speaker 1: the I think with the Angels and Tigers instead.
- 33:41Speaker 3: You need to let us know a couple of these
- 33:43Speaker 3: because then maybe we can prepare a little video or photo.
- 33:47Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk to the producer lady about it.
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