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Gilgo Beach serial killer sentenced to multiple life terms · Murder Files Unsealed

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  Speaker 1: Picture a courtroom. It is. It's June seventeenth, twenty twenty six, right.
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  We are in Riverhead, New York, down in Suffolk County,
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  and this room is just packed to the absolute brim standing, yeah, exactly.
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  The air is thick, it's incredibly heavy with this emotion
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  that has been simmering, I mean really boiling over for decades.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you could feel it in the room.
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  Speaker 1: And at the front of the room is a sixty
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  two year old Manhattan architect. He's standing there and he
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  is finally being forced to turn around and face the
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  families of the women he.
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  Speaker 2: Terrorize, which is a huge moment.
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  Speaker 1: It is up on the bench, Judge Timothy P. Measay
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  is speaking. But the judge's voice, it isn't delivering this dry,
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  measured legal ruling, you know, at all. His voice is
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  physically cracking with rage. He looks down at this architect
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  and calls him a disgusting and despicable small man.
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  Speaker 3: He called him a coward, too.
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  Speaker 1: He did, He called him a coward. Then the judge
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  actually orders the court officers to get him out of here,
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  and the entire courtroom ererupts and cheers as this architect
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  is led away.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a profoundly raw image to start with.
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  It really is that visceral.
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  Speaker 3: Reaction in the courtroom, that cheering, That is the sound
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  of a decade's long nightmare finally hitting its absolute limit, right.
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  Speaker 1: But to understand the true weight of that cheering, we
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  really have to look past the gavel, past the sentencing itself.
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  Speaker 3: We do. We have to look at the incredibly ordinary,
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  boring life that allowed this man to hunt in plane
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  sight for three decades exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So today we are doing a deep dive into the
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  architectural blueprints of a monster.
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  Speaker 3: And we've got a massive stack of sources for this one.
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  We're pulling from court records, on the ground, reporting from
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  the BBC, the New York Times, CNN, plus some really
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  detailed case analyses.
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  Speaker 1: And we also have the actual impact statements from the families,
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  which are just heartbreaking they are.
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  Speaker 3: And when you put all of this together, a very
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  complex picture emerges because we aren't just looking at a
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  timeline of a true crime story here.
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  Speaker 1: Now, we're looking at the mechanics of a tragedy exactly.
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  The mission of this deep dive is to understand that
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  the very specific systemic failures a psychological camouflage and the
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  genuinely mind bending investigative science that finally bought the Gilgo
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  Beach serial killer to justice.
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  Speaker 3: Rex Hormon.
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  Speaker 1: Rex Horman.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and for you listening right now, whether you are
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  fascinated by the evolution of forensic science, or maybe you're
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  concerned with how society views its most vulnerable.
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  Speaker 1: People, or if you're just captivated by a psychology of
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  someone living a complete double life.
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  Speaker 3: Right, whatever brings you to this topic, this is going
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  to challenge you, is going to challenge how you perceive
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  the quiet, boring spaces in your own.
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  Speaker 1: Life, because that's where he hid exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Let's start with that camouflage. Let's look at the baseline
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  facts of the completely mundane life that he constructed to
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  evade detection for literally decades.
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  Speaker 1: It really is a masterclass and blending in So let's
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  look at his background. Rex Andre Horman was born on
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  September thirteenth, nineteen sixty three.
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  Speaker 3: He was born right there in Massapikle Park, Long Island,
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  and he grew up in the exact same house where
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  he would later live his entire adult life with his
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  own family.
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  Speaker 1: Wait his entire life in the same house, his entire
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  life which from a psychological standpoint is pretty fascinating.
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  Speaker 3: There is this deep, unmovable rooting in this specific geographic location.
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  Speaker 1: That makes sense. It's like his whole world was anchored there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the record show his father passed away when
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  he was just twelve years old.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow.
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  Speaker 3: So the psychological profiles note that he was described as
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  being quite close to his mother, and she was characterized
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  by neighbors and acquaintances as a highly controlling figure.
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  Speaker 1: That's an interesting detail, it is.
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  Speaker 3: So he went to the local high school, graduated in
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  nineteen eighty one, and then studied architectural technology at the
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  New York Institute of Technology.
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  Speaker 1: And then he goes into a profession that is, honestly,
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  on the surface, incredibly tedious. Right. He ran a firm
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  called rh Consultants and Associates in Manhattan. But he wasn't
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  out there designing sweeping, creative skyscrapers or avant garde meum.
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  Speaker 2: No, nothing glamorous, not at all.
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  Speaker 1: He was an expediter. He specialized in navigating the labyrinth
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  of New York City's Department of.
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  Speaker 2: Buildings, which is a nightmare of paperwork exactly.
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  Speaker 1: He dealt with building code compliance permits, inspections. It is
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  a very dry, bureaucratic, paperwork heavy field that most people
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  would find mind numbing.
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  Speaker 3: And it's so interesting how his colleagues described him, because
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  it feels completely at odds with the profile of a
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  serial predator.
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  Speaker 1: How did they describe him?
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  Speaker 3: They described this large, physically imposing man who was just
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  very socially awkward.
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  Speaker 1: Socially awkward.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, someone who would literally blush when making small talk
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  with young women in his office.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that is just wild, right, And.
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  Speaker 3: His personal life mirrored that quiet, awkward image perfectly. He
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  had a brief marriage in the early nineteen nineties, and
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  then he married Asa Ellerup in nineteen ninety six. Okay,
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  they had a daughter, Victoria, and he helped raise Ellerup's son, Christopher,
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  and they lived quietly in that same somewhat run down
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  family home in massive Pickle Park.
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  Speaker 1: Just a totally normal suburban dad, commuted.
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  Speaker 3: On the train, carried a briefcase. He was the absolute
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  picture of suburban invisibility.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's like looking at a load bearing wall
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  in a house.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I like that analogy.
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  Speaker 1: Think about it. On the outside, it's just boring, drywall.
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  You walk past it a thousand times and never think
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  about it. Right, But its entire purpose is to quietly
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  manage this immense crushing pressure from above so the rest
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  of the house doesn't collapse. His daily routine as an
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  architect was the drywall. Yes, it managed the structural psychological
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  pressure of his double life.
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  Speaker 3: That is a highly accurate way to visualize it. Yes,
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  because you have to think about the psychological partitioning required here.
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  It's extreme, extreme compartmentalization. By day, he is in Manhattan,
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  navigating municipal building codes, negotiating with city inspectors, dealing with
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  the absolute minutia of fire safety permits. Right then he
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  boards a commuter train, goes back to the suburbs, and
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  pivots to planning, orchestrating and executing methodical brutal murders.
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  Speaker 1: Terrifying.
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  Speaker 3: It requires a brain that is literally wired with bulkheads,
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  able to seal off one reality entirely while operating in another.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, the architecture job wasn't just a disguise,
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  was it. No, it wasn't, because I'm looking at what
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  an expeditor actually does. Your entire job is dealing with
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  complex systems, finding the loopholes and ensuring your client doesn't
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  get flagged for a violation exactly. You have to be
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  obsessively detail oriented. You are managing logistics and identifying the
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  blind spots in a massive bureaucracy.
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  Speaker 3: And that exact same obsession with system blind spots is
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  what he applied to serial.
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  Speaker 1: Murder, which is chilling.
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  Speaker 3: It is the crucial overlap. An expedior's job is risk
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  management within a complex system. When you apply a logistical,
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  bureaucratic mindset to predatory behavior, you get a killer who
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  is obsessively focused on minimizing his footrit.
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  Speaker 1: He knows how the system.
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  Speaker 3: Works, right, He implicitly understands where those systems fail. He
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  knows how to operate in the margins where nobody is looking,
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  where jurisdictions overlap, or where data isn't being shared. Wow,
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  he approached hiding bodies with the exact same meticulous problem
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  solving mindset he used to bypass his zoning restriction in Lower.
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  Speaker 1: Manhattan, And for a long time his risk management was flawless.
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  Nobody was looking in those margins.
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  Speaker 3: No they weren't.
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  Speaker 1: But that careful compartmentalization eventually began to unravel. And the
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  chilling part is that it didn't unravel initially because of
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  some brilliant proactive police strategy.
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  Speaker 2: Not at all.
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  Speaker 1: It unraveled entirely by accident through the very terrain he
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  thought was his ultimate secret vault.
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  Speaker 3: Which brings us to the geography of this case. Honestly,
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  the location is arguably as central to the story as
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  the forensic science.
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  Speaker 1: We have to go back to December of twenty ten
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  to really understand how this isolation was shattered.
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  Speaker 3: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: The police were conducting a search in Oak Beach, Long Island.
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  They were looking for a twenty three year old woman
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  named Shannon Gilbert. She was a sex worker who had
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  vanished months earlier, back in May after making a completely frantic,
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  terrified nine to one one call from a client's home
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  in that gated Oak Beach community, and.
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  Speaker 3: That nine one one call lasted over twenty minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty minutes. She was running. She was saying, they are
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  trying to kill me.
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  Speaker 3: It's so disturbing.
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  Speaker 1: So cut to December. The police are finally doing a
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  massive sweep of this incredibly dense, remote marshy area with
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  canine units, and as they are combing through all these
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  brambles looking for Shanan, a police dog alerts to ascent.
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  On December eleventh, twenty ten, an officer finds a set of.
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  Speaker 2: Human remains, but it isn't Shannan.
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  Speaker 1: No, it is a woman named Melissa Barthelemy, and her
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  remains were found wrapped in heavily weathered burlap.
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  Speaker 3: And because of that singular accidental discovery, the police intensify
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  their search in that immediate vicinity along Ocean Parkway.
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  Speaker 1: They realize they have to keep looking.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly and within a matter of days, in very close proximity,
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  they find three more bodies, Maureen Brainerd Barnes, Megan Waterman,
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  and amberln Costello.
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  Speaker 1: The gil Go Four.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, these four women quickly became known in the media
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  as the gil.
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  Speaker 1: Go four, and instantly investigators realized they are not looking
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  at isolated incidents, not at all. They are looking at
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  the highly methodical work of a single serial killer. The
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  physical characteristics and the methodology were chillingly.
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  Speaker 2: Consistent, very consistent.
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  Speaker 1: All four women were petite, All four were sex workers
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  who had advertised their services online, specifically on Craigslist at
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  the time. They had all been strangled. They were bound,
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  often with beltzer tape, wrapped in burlap and disposed of
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  at roughly equal intervals along this desolate stretch of road.
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  Speaker 3: The physical disparity here is a key element of his
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  modus operande.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 3: The sources note a very specific victim profile. These women
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  were often under five foot two and weighed around one
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  hundred pounds. Okay, you compare that to Hoyrman. He was
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  widely described as a massive, powerful man, standing around six
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  fe foot four and weighing over two hundred and forty pounds.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, so a huge size difference.
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  Speaker 3: Massive. He was deliberately weaponizing his sheer physical size advantage
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  to utterly overpower these petite victims.
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  Speaker 1: He could probably render them physically helpless almost instantly, exactly.
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  I want to focus on the specific location for a moment, though.
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  Why Ocean Parkway?
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  Speaker 3: It's a great question.
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  Speaker 1: If you look at a map of Long Island, it's
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  heavily populated. But this specific stretch, this barrier island, what
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  makes it the perfect dumping ground for a man who
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  is obsessed with logistics.
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  Speaker 3: It is a masterclass in delaying discovery through hostile topography.
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  Speaker 1: Hostile topography, Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Ocean Parkway is this long, straight ribbon of asphalt that
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  just cuts through incredibly dense, uninviting salt marsh.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: The ecology of a barrier island is brutal. The brush
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  consists of thick, thorny briars, poison ivy and scrub pine.
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  The ground is often flooded, it's swampy, and it's unst
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  able due to tidal shifts.
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  Speaker 1: So nobody is just going for a walk.
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  Speaker 2: Out there exactly.
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  Speaker 3: It is fundamentally not an area where someone goes for
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  a casual stroll or a hike.
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  Speaker 1: So by selecting this specific terrain, he's creating a natural vault.
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  Speaker 3: Precisely, the environment itself acts as a passive accomplice, and
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  the burlap specifically was a calculated choice.
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  Speaker 1: Why burlap instead of garbage bags, Well.
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  Speaker 3: Think about plastic garbage bags. They trap gases, they float,
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  and they reflect light. Burlap is a natural fiber ah
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  It breathes, yes, it breeds, which aids in natural decomposition
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  without creating a massive ballooning disturbance. Plus its color perfectly
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  camouflages with the dead brown scrub of the winter marsh.
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  Speaker 1: He thought of everything.
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  Speaker 3: He understood that the dense briers would swallow the evidence
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  and the sheer hostility of the landscape would keep accidental
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  discovery to an absolute minimum.
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  Speaker 1: But the accidental discovery did happen.
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  Speaker 3: It did because of Shennan Gilbert.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and once the seal on that vault was broken,
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  the horror just kept expanding. It got so much worse
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  because in March and April of twenty elevee, as the
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  weather warmed up, the surges pushed further out along the
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  parkway and into neighboring areas. They found additional sets of remains,
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  expanding the tallly to ten or more victims across Suffolk
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  and Nassau Counties.
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  Speaker 2: Unbelievable, and this.
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  Speaker 1: Is where the sheer brutality really escalates in the public
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  eye because the methodology shifts. Some of these remains were severely.
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  Speaker 2: Dismembered corsos and extremities.
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  Speaker 1: Right torsos and extremities were found in wooded areas like Manorville,
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  which is miles inland away from Gilgo Beach.
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  Speaker 3: And dismemberment in serial murder is rarely about the act itself.
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  It is almost always a logistical countermeasure, like a.
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  Speaker 1: Way to hide the identity exactly.
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  Speaker 3: It is an attempt to obscure the victim's identity by
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  separating the head and hands from the torso, and frankly,
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  to make the physical transportation of a body more manageable.
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  Speaker 2: So dark.
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  Speaker 3: The fact that parts of the same victims were found
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  in Manorville and along Gilgo Beach suggests an evolution in
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  his methods, or perhaps a sudden paranoia about his primary
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  dumping ground being compromised at some point in the early
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  two thousands.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine being a resident of these communities during the spring
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  of twenty eleven.
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  Speaker 3: It was been terrifying.
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  Speaker 1: You drive down Ocean Parkway every single day to get
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  to work or go to the beach, and suddenly you
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  realize that this quiet, scenic coastal road has been secretly
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  utilized as a private graveyard by a monster for over
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  a decade.
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  Speaker 3: It completely shatters the illusion of suburban safety.
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  Speaker 1: It really does. The landscape you thought you knew intimately
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  becomes a site of immense hidden horror.
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  Speaker 3: It fundamentally alters the psychology of an entire region. But
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  we really have to address why this landscape was able
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  to hide them.
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  Speaker 1: For so long, the delay in finding them.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, the fact that this went on from nineteen ninety
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  three all the way to twenty ten, before the first
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  bodies were found. It wasn't just about the dense brush
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  in the burlap.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: The geography hid them physically, yes, but society had already
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  hidden them metaphorically.
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  Speaker 1: And that brings us to what is arguably the most
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  most critical systemic factor in this entire case. The women
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  whose lives were stolen.
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  Speaker 3: We have to talk about them.
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  Speaker 1: The eight women that Horrorman ultimately admitted to killing were
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  not just data points in a true crime timeline. They
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  were human beings. They had families, children, complex lives, and
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  the way society viewed them as a massive part of
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  why this man operated with impunity for so long.
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  Speaker 3: To understand the systemic failure, we have to look at
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  the timeline and the profiles of the victims. Let's trace
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  this back to the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Sandra Custilla is the earliest known victim in this finalized case.
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  She was twenty eight years old, originally from Trinidad and Tobago,
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  living in New York City.
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  Speaker 1: And when was she killed.
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  Speaker 3: She was killed in November of nineteen ninety three. Her
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  body was actually found in a wooded area in north Sea,
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  Long Island shortly after her murder, but it went unsolved.
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  For decades until modern DNA linked Toyrmen to her.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Then there is Karen Virgata, who is thirty four.
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  She vanished in nineteen ninety six.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Her partial remains were found on Fire Island shortly after,
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  but she wasn't fully identified for years. Hoyerman formally admitted
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  to her murder as part of his twenty twenty six plea.
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  Speaker 3: And then Valerie Mack.
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  Speaker 1: Her story is particularly heartbreaking.
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  Speaker 3: It is she was twenty four years old, also known
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  to some as Melissa Taylor, she was a mother from
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  Philadelphia who had spent time in the foster care system.
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  Speaker 1: She vanished around two thousand, right yeah, leaving behind a
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  young son.
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  Speaker 3: Her partial remains a torso were found in Manerville in
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  two thousand and more remains were found along Gilgo Beach
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  later in twenty eleven.
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  Speaker 1: Then we have Jessica Taylor, who is just twenty years
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  old when she disappeared in two thousand and three, just twenty.
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  Like Valerie, her dismembered remains were scattered between Manerville and
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  Gilgo Beach. The horror her family endured learning about unidentified
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  torso discoveries on the evening news for years before knowing
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  it was Jessica is just unimaginable.
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  Speaker 3: And then the victims who became known as the gilgo
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  for right. Maureen Brainerd Barnes twenty five years old, a
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  mother of two from Connecticut. She vanished in July two
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  thousand and seven, and the sources specifically note that she
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  had actually left sex work, but returned to it strictly
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  due to crushing financial pressures. She was facing eviction.
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  Speaker 1: That's so sad. Melissa Barthelemy twenty four, from New York,
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  vanished in July two thousand and nine.
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  Speaker 3: Then Megan Waterman twenty two years old from Maine. She
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  was a mother to a young daughter named Lilliana, who
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  was only three at the time, only three. Megan vanished
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  in June twenty ten while staying at a motel in Hoposche.
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  Speaker 1: And Amberlin Costello twenty seven from West Babylon, New York.
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  She vanished on September two, twenty ten, after agreeing to
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  meet a client who was offering her twenty five hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 3: When we view these women together, a very clear, heartbreaking
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  pattern emerges.
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  Speaker 1: They were deeply marginalized.
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  Speaker 3: Many of them were They were working in the underground
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  sex trade. Some were struggling with grinding poverty, some with
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  the horrors of human trafficking, some with severe substance addiction.
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  Speaker 1: They were living in the extreme margins of society, and.
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  Speaker 3: That marginalization directly dictated the initial police.
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  Speaker 1: Response, oh heavily. The early investigations faced massive, heavily documented
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  criticism from the families and the public. The families openly
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  alleged that a clear bias against sex workers slowed the
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  progress of the investigations. The disappearances simply weren't treated with
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  the urgency of a quote unquote traditional missing person's case.
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  Speaker 3: Which forces us to ask a really uncomfortable question.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly, So what does this all mean? If we think
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  about it, If eight wealthy housewives from gated communities had
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  vanished without a trace, would this have remained a cold
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  case for over a decade?
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  Speaker 3: Impartially speaking, based on the historical evidence, the answer is
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  absolutely not. If we connect this to the bigger picture,
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  this case acts as a damning mirror for societal bias.
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  When vulnerable populations, people facing addiction, poverty, or engaging in
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  sex work go missing, the systemic response is historically sluggish.
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  Speaker 2: It's tragic.
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  Speaker 3: Law enforcement protocols often default to a presumption that their
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  lifestyle naturally equates to transience. The assumption is often, Oh,
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  they probably just moved on, or they are intentionally hiding.
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  Speaker 1: And he knew that.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, he relied on that exactly. A predator like Hoyerman,
• 18:08
  who spent his days analyzing the blind spots in municipal codes,
• 18:12
  applied that exact same analysis to human victimology.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: He targeted them because society wouldn't look for them.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: He targeted these women specifically because he knew society was
• 18:21
  less likely to mobilize a massive, immediate search effort for them.
• 18:25
  He weaponized their marginalization.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: He knew how the systems would fail them.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: He knew that the jurisdictional fractures between the NYPD, Suffolk
• 18:31
  County Police, and Nassau County Police would be exacerbated if
• 18:34
  the victims were viewed as transient sex workers rather than
• 18:38
  local taxpayers.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: The ripple effects of that systemic failure are just devastating,
• 18:43
  especially when you look at the intergenerational trauma.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: The children.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, you have Maureene brainer Barnes's daughter Nicolette. You have
• 18:52
  Megan Waterman's daughter Lilliana. These were little girls who grew
• 18:55
  up entirely motherless, and why because a predator decided their
• 19:00
  mother's lives were disposable, and the system tasked with protecting
• 19:03
  them was too clouded by bias and bureaucratic inertia to
• 19:07
  intervene in time.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: The detail about Liliana is especially tough.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: She literally had to learn the gruesome details of her
• 19:14
  mother's dismemberment and death by googling it as a teenager.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I can't even imagine.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Carrying this lifelong burden of unanswered questions.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: The human cost is staggering, However, impartially presenting the facts
• 19:27
  from the sources, this massive institutional failure in the early
• 19:30
  years of the investigation did eventually force systemic changes. It
• 19:34
  had to The sheer scale of the Gilgo Beach discoveries,
• 19:37
  combined with the loud, relentless, persistent advocacy of the victims' families,
• 19:41
  spurred a major push for destigmatization in missing persons cases
• 19:45
  nationwide when.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: The multi agency Task Force was eventually reformed years later.
• 19:50
  That was a huge part of it.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Right is entirely neutrally speaking, a core component of its methodology,
• 19:56
  with the necessity of treating every missing person wardless of
• 20:00
  their background, profession or struggles with addiction with equal investigative.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Rigor, which is how it always should have been.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: It forced law enforcement to completely reevaluate how marginalized groups
• 20:10
  are protected or failed by standard protocols.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: But the profound tragedy is that those protocol reforms came
• 20:17
  decades too late for Sandra Karen Valerie, Jessica Marine, Melissa Meghan,
• 20:22
  and Amber Reyku eight. Because while societal bias, disjointed databases,
• 20:27
  and localized police scandals literally stalled this case for over
• 20:30
  ten years, Rex Hornman was just living.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: His life, commeting to Manhattan.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Filing permits, raising his DAR. But eventually the relentless evolution
• 20:40
  of forensic technology began to outpace his ability to hide
• 20:43
  in those margins.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: That is the ultimate turning point of this entire saga.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the breakthrough.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: For over a decade, the case was completely stagnant, just
• 20:52
  mired in dead ends and local controversies. But in early
• 20:56
  twenty twenty two, a new massive multi agent SEE Task
• 21:00
  Force was formed.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: This wasn't just a local precinct anymore.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: No, this brought together vast state resources, the Suffolk County Police,
• 21:07
  the State Police, and the FBI, and it was this
• 21:11
  combined technologically advanced, data driven effort that finally shattered the
• 21:16
  cold case.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Here's where it gets really interesting, because the breakthrough was
• 21:20
  this incredible juxtaposition of very old school analog witness observation
• 21:25
  and cutting edge microscopic digital science.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Let's start with the analog clue. Yeah.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Remember Amberlin Costello who vanished in September twenty ten. Her
• 21:34
  roommate had actually provided a very specific description to the
• 21:37
  police at the time.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: The roommate describes seeing a large, massive ogre like man
• 21:42
  driving a dark green Chevrolet Avalanche, and.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: That vehicle description was the thread that the twenty twenty
• 21:47
  two task force finally pulled to unravel the whole sweater amazing.
• 21:51
  In March of twenty twenty two, investigators ran a complex
• 21:54
  database search for that specific make, model and color a
• 21:59
  first general green Chevrolet.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Avalanche registered to anyone living in the geographic areas associated
• 22:05
  with the cell phone data.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Exactly, and that search brought the name Rex Hoyrman of
• 22:11
  Massive Pequa Park to the surface as a primary suspect.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, wait, hold on, I have to push back right here. God,
• 22:16
  you're telling me they had a description of a giant
• 22:19
  man driving a very specific, somewhat uncommon truck, a green
• 22:22
  Chevy Avalanche in twenty ten. Yes, how does a clue
• 22:26
  that massive sit in a file for twelve years while
• 22:29
  a serial killer walks free? What was actually going on
• 22:32
  inside the investigation?
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: It is one of the most heavily scrutinized questions of
• 22:36
  the entire investigation. And the delay wasn't necessarily a case
• 22:39
  of a single detective just ignoring a piece of paper.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: What was it? Then?
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: It was a massive failure of data infrastructure. In twenty ten,
• 22:46
  localized police departments were dealing with massive, siloed.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Databases, so they couldn't share information right.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: The NYPD had their records, Suffa County had THEIRS, Nassau
• 22:55
  County had THEIRS, and the DMV was entirely separate. Furthermore,
• 23:00
  the early years of the investigation were notoriously plagued by
• 23:04
  local police scandals and a severe lack of inner agency communication.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: The sources mentioned the FBI was even pushed out for
• 23:11
  a while.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: The FBI was actually pushed out of the investigation for
• 23:14
  a period of time due to localized turf wars.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: So the data was there but the systems literally couldn't
• 23:20
  talk to each other to connect the dots exactly.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: They were drowning in a sea of thousands of tips
• 23:26
  without the modern algorithms required to sift through it effectively.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Until twenty twenty two.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: The twenty twenty two Task Force brought in advanced data integration.
• 23:34
  They built digital likes where all this information could finally
• 23:37
  cross reference.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: They overlaid the New York State Motor Vehicle Registry with
• 23:43
  the geographic data of the local art cell phone pings
• 23:46
  in a way the original investigators simply couldn't compute manually. Wow,
• 23:51
  And once the algorithm flagged Horman's name connected to that avalanche,
• 23:55
  they could deploy the modern forensic arsenal against him.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: And what an arsenal it was. Let's talk about the
• 24:01
  digital footprint first, because this is where the invisible man
• 24:04
  routine completely falls apart.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, the burner phones.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: They started looking at his burner phones.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Burner phones are a fascinating element of modern criminal investigations.
• 24:14
  A killer buys a prepaid phone with cash, thinking it
• 24:17
  renders him completely anonymous.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: And historically it did, right.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Shit it did. But a cell phone, by its very
• 24:25
  physical nature is a tracking device. To function, a phone
• 24:29
  must constantly reach out and shake hands with the nearest
• 24:31
  local cell towers to maintain a signal.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Even if you aren't making a call.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Even if you aren't making a call, your phone is
• 24:38
  pinging the tower saying I am here.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: So every time he turned on one of these disposable
• 24:42
  phones to contact a victim, he was unknowingly dropping a
• 24:46
  digital GPS pin.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Precisely. Investigators pull the historic cell site location data from
• 24:51
  the towers in massapecle Park, Midtown Manhattan, where his office was,
• 24:55
  and the towers near the victim's last known locations.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: And what did they find.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: They looked at the pings that traced the movements of
• 25:02
  these disposable phones connecting directly with the victim's phones, and
• 25:07
  they matched the geographic movement of those burner phones perfectly
• 25:11
  to the geographic movement of Rex Weyerman's personal registered cell phone.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, the phones travel together.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: The phones travel together. The digital handshakes proved he was
• 25:21
  in the exact right place at the exact right time,
• 25:24
  over and over again.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: That is incredible. Then they dug into his actual digital
• 25:29
  search history, and this is where the mask completely slips.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: It was very dark.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: They uncovered deeply disturbing internet searches. He wasn't just searching
• 25:37
  for building codes anymore. He was searching for highly specific,
• 25:41
  sadistic pornography. But even more chillingly, he was obsessively searching
• 25:46
  for information on his own victims' families. He was giggling
• 25:50
  the names of the siblings of the women he killed,
• 25:53
  and he was constantly monitoring the progress of the Gilgo
• 25:55
  Beach Task Force online to see if they were on
• 25:58
  to him.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: The digital footprint provided the behavioral evidence and the timeline,
• 26:03
  but the absolute lynch pin of the case, the element
• 26:06
  that moved it from highly compelling, circumstantial suspicion to undeniable
• 26:11
  biological proof, was the DNA. Yes, the DNA and the
• 26:15
  methodology used here represents a profound leap forward in forensic
• 26:19
  science over the last decade.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: This is the part that blows my mind. The pizza crust.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: The pizza crust.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Let's explain exactly how this works. Because a guy who
• 26:27
  spends his whole life obsessing over risk management, who wraps
• 26:31
  bodies and burlap to blend into the marsh, gets caught
• 26:35
  because he threw out a piece of crust it is.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: The ultimate irony of modern forensics. So investigators had him
• 26:41
  under two hundred and forty seven physical surveillance in Manhattan.
• 26:44
  They watched him walk down the street, Hei slaves a
• 26:46
  pizza and discard the pizza box into a public trash can.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: It's a normal lunch.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Once he walked away, they retrieved that box and from
• 26:53
  the discarded halvy eaten pizza crust inside, forensic technicians were
• 26:57
  able to swab for saliva sales and extract a pristine
• 27:01
  sample of his nuclear DNA.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: And then they have to compare that pristine twenty twenty
• 27:05
  two sample to evidence from over a decade earlier.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, back in twenty ten, investigators found a single microscopic
• 27:13
  male hair on the burlap wrappings of one.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Of the victims, just one hair.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: For years, a hair without a root attached was largely
• 27:22
  useless for definitive nuclear DNA profiling, but the science evolved.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: They could finally test it.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Using advanced extraction techniques developed in the late twenty tens,
• 27:31
  they were able to generate a profile from that degraded
• 27:34
  hair shaft. They compared the profile from the burlap hair
• 27:37
  to the profile from the pizza crust. It is an
• 27:39
  undeniable statistical match.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Wow. But they didn't just stop at his DNA. They
• 27:44
  also utilized something called familial DNA, which is a relatively
• 27:48
  new concept for a lot of people.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Familial DNA was the final nail in the coffin regarding
• 27:52
  his alibis. When investigators process the victims remains back in
• 27:56
  twenty ten, they didn't just find his hair. They also
• 27:59
  found microscopic female hairs on the burlap and on the
• 28:01
  tape used to bind the victims. In twenty twenty two,
• 28:04
  using advanced mitochondrial DNA techniques, they were able to extract
• 28:09
  a genetic profile from those female hairs. They then matched
• 28:13
  that profile to DNA generated from discarded items belonging to
• 28:16
  Hoyerman's wife, Asa Elurope.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Now to be absolutely clear, based on the records, his
• 28:21
  wife was thoroughly investigated and clear completely cleared. She was
• 28:25
  documented as being out of town, traveling out of the state,
• 28:28
  or out of the country during the windows of time
• 28:29
  when the murders occurred.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Correct, but her hair was naturally in his environment. It
• 28:34
  was on his clothes, in his car, woven into the
• 28:37
  fabric of his daily life when he committed these murders.
• 28:41
  And wrapped these bodies. He unwittingly transferred his wife's microscopic
• 28:45
  hair from his own clothing onto the crime scenes.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: That is just incredible science.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: This technique of using familial transfer DNA to bridge the
• 28:53
  gap between a suspect's intimate environment and a remote crime
• 28:57
  scene is revolutionary. It completely destroyed the concept of a
• 29:01
  clean crime scene.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: It really echoes other watershed moments in true crime that
• 29:05
  we've seen recently, like what well the sources specifically compare
• 29:09
  this technological triumph to the capture of the Golden State
• 29:14
  Killer or the BTK killer.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: You have these predators who operated with absolute impunity for decades,
• 29:21
  who genuinely believed they had outsmarted the system, suddenly unmasked
• 29:25
  because they left behind a biological footprint that the science
• 29:28
  of their era couldn't read, but the science of today
• 29:32
  can read it like a large print book.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: It is a phenomenal paradigm shift. When BTK or the
• 29:38
  Golden State Killer were active, or when Hoyerman was starting
• 29:41
  his crimes in the early nineties, genetic genealogy, touch, DNA
• 29:45
  and mitochondrial hair extraction simply didn't exist in a usable form.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: They were safe back then.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: They were operating under the rules of twentieth century forensics,
• 29:55
  where you needed a massive pool of blood or fluid
• 29:57
  to get a match. But time catches up.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Time catches up, the.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Science evolves relentlessly, and suddenly the invisible microscopic flakes of
• 30:05
  skin or single strands of hair they left behind become
• 30:08
  glaring neon signs pointing directly to their front doors.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: The digital and biological footprints weren't just a roadmap to
• 30:15
  catch him, though. When investigators finally cracked open his life,
• 30:18
  the evidence didn't just prove he was a killer. It
• 30:21
  revealed the truly terrifying extent of his sadism.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: It really did.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: It showed a need for total control and psychological torture
• 30:29
  that extended long long after the physical murders were committed.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: The behavioral profile constructed from the evidence is deeply disturbing.
• 30:38
  As we noted, Hrman meticulously planned his crimes to coincide
• 30:41
  with periods when his wife and children were traveling out
• 30:44
  of town. Right this allowed him to utilize his own
• 30:48
  seemingly quiet, normal family home in Massapequa Park as a
• 30:53
  staging ground for unimaginable.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Violence in his own home.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Yes, and When investigators finally raided and searched that home,
• 31:00
  the sources outlined that they found what were described as
• 31:03
  potential trophies, are tools, trophies, items deliberately kept vandio that
• 31:07
  tethered him to the memories of his crimes.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: But you know the detail that I cannot get out
• 31:11
  of my head, The horrifying action that completely and utterly
• 31:15
  shatters this narrative of the quiet, socially awkward Arkansas is
• 31:19
  the psychological warfare he waged against the families of the victims.
• 31:23
  We have to look at what he did to Melissa
• 31:25
  Barthelemy's younger sister.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: This is where the sheer malice of his pathology becomes undeniable.
• 31:32
  After Melissa vanished in two thousand and nine, her teenage
• 31:35
  sister began receiving a series of phone.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Calls from an unknown number.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: No, they weren't from an anonymous stranger's number. The caller
• 31:43
  ID showed they were coming directly from Melissa's own cell phone.
• 31:46
  Oh my god, it was the killer. For weeks, he
• 31:49
  made these cruel, vulgar, taunting calls to this young woman.
• 31:53
  He mocked the family, He discussed what he had done
• 31:55
  to Melissa, and he actively listened to the sister's terror.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I have to say that is just absolute, unfiltered evil.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: This wasn't a crime of impulse, It wasn't a sudden
• 32:05
  loss of control. It was protracted, calculated, sadistic torture of
• 32:09
  aggrieving family.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Very calculated, but from.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: A behavioral lens.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I don't understand the logic.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: What do you mean.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Why would a man whose entire existence is predicated on
• 32:18
  risk management, a man who carefully hides bodies in a remote,
• 32:23
  hostile marsh to avoid detection, take the massive, glaring risk
• 32:27
  of turning on a victim's active cell phone and making
• 32:30
  a traceable call.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: This raises an important question. It is the ultimate paradox
• 32:35
  of the serial predator, and it lies at the intersection
• 32:38
  of narcissism and sadism.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Narcissism and sadism.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: For killers fitting this specific, highly organized psychological profile, the
• 32:46
  physical act of murder is often just one phase of
• 32:49
  their compulsion.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: It doesn't end there for them.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: No, the psychological torment of the survivors becomes a necessary
• 32:55
  extension of the original crime. It is a mechanism to
• 32:58
  maintain a feeling of apa salute godlike omnipotence.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: So by calling the sister, he is as certain control
• 33:04
  not just over the victim, but over her entire world exactly.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: He is injecting himself directly into their grief, proving that
• 33:10
  he holds all the cards. But there is also the
• 33:12
  thrill of.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: The risk, the risk of getting caught.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: He made some of these calls from highly congested areas
• 33:17
  in Manhattan, like near Times Square of Madison Square Garden.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, in public.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Yes, he did this because the density of the crowds
• 33:24
  and the sheer volume of cell tower traffic provided a
• 33:28
  layer of anonymity, making it incredibly difficult for police to
• 33:32
  pinpoint him in real time. Wow, it is a staggering
• 33:35
  display of malignant narcissism. He believed he was so much
• 33:38
  smarter than the NYPD and the FBI that he could
• 33:41
  literally taunt them through the victim's own phone from the
• 33:44
  middle of the busiest city on Earth without ever being caught.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: It makes my blood run.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Cold, terrifying to think about.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Just the sheer, unadulterated arrogance of it. Standing in a
• 33:53
  crowd of thousands of people wearing a suit, holding a
• 33:56
  dead woman's phone, and torturing.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: Our sister, arrogance is exactly the right.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: But that arrogance, that deeply held belief that he was
• 34:02
  an untouchable phantom, that all finally collided with reality in
• 34:07
  a courtroom on Long Island.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, it did. All of the intersecting monumental forces we've
• 34:12
  discussed over the last hour, the agonized, unrelenting grief of
• 34:15
  the families, the massive dated Riven Task Force investigation, the
• 34:19
  revolutionary evolution of forensic science, it all converged in the
• 34:23
  spring and summer of twenty twenty six.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Let's break down exactly how this legal catharsis played out,
• 34:29
  because despite the mountain of evidence, a trial for a
• 34:31
  serial killer is never a guarantee, right. But on April eighth,
• 34:35
  twenty twenty six, rex Hireman did not go to trial.
• 34:39
  He pleaded guilty to seven murders, and he formally admitted
• 34:42
  to the eighth, the nineteen ninety sixth murder of Karen.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Viergata, which is huge, and that.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Plea led us directly to that incredibly raw scene we
• 34:50
  described at the very beginning of this deep dive. June seventeenth,
• 34:53
  twenty twenty six, sentencing day.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: The sentencing hearing was by all accounts from the reporters
• 34:59
  in the room intensely emotional.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I can't even imagine this was.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: The exact moment the families had been waiting over a
• 35:05
  decade for. Yeah, the justice system finally had him in
• 35:08
  the light, and the judge, Timothy P. Mass I, as
• 35:11
  we noted, did not hold back, not at all. By
• 35:13
  calling Hoyerman a disgusting and despicable small man, the judge
• 35:17
  was deliberately verbally stripping him of any residual power, mystique,
• 35:21
  or twisted notoriety he might have felt he possessed.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: And then the families finally had their chance to speak
• 35:26
  directly to the man who destroyed their lives.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: The impact statements.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: They delivered incredibly powerful, agonizing impact statements. Melissa Barthelami's sister,
• 35:36
  the young woman who had received those horrific taunting phone
• 35:39
  calls years earlier. She stood up in court, looked directly
• 35:44
  at the architect who had tortured her family, and vowed
• 35:46
  revenge and hell.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Jessica Taylor's cousin also spoke, and she forced the entire
• 35:51
  court to confront the visceral, ugly reality of his crimes.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: What did she say?
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: She described the unimaginable horror of having to process the
• 36:00
  discovery of headless and handless remains, forcing Horman to listen
• 36:04
  to the grotesque reality of his logistics, and Valiam's father
• 36:08
  stood up and, in a profound display of grace, instead
• 36:11
  of focusing his energy on the killer, he focused entirely
• 36:14
  on his daughter.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: That takes so much strength.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: It does. He affirmed to the court that no matter
• 36:19
  what Horman did to her body, he could never taint
• 36:21
  her spirit.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Amidst all of this profound, agonizing grief, this righteous anger
• 36:26
  pouring out of the gallery, Horman was actually given a
• 36:28
  chance to speak on the record, and his statement was
• 36:31
  shockingly brief. After decades of terror, he simply said, there
• 36:35
  are no words I can say.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: I am responsible.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: It is remarkably anti climactic.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: It's pathetic. For decades he was this terrifying phantom, this mastermind,
• 36:44
  who held an entire region in fear, who thought he
• 36:47
  was a god among men. And then what and when
• 36:49
  he is finally stripped of his shadows, stripped of his anonymity,
• 36:52
  and forced to face the light, he has absolutely nothing
• 36:55
  of substance to say, just a hollow, empty sentence from
• 36:58
  a small man in Handcot.
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  Speaker 3: It perfectly highlights the ultimate hollow banality of his evil right.
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  But from a broader legal perspective, we need to analyze
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  why this ultimately ended in a plea deal rather than
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  a highly publicized, dramatic trial.
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  Speaker 1: Because people love a trial.
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  Speaker 3: Often the public wants the spectacle of a trial. They
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  want to see every piece of evidence aired out, every
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  cross examination on television. But the prosecution had a very specific,
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  calculated strategy here. By securing a guilty plea, they achieved
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  two monumental objectives.
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  Speaker 1: Right, because the trial is always a risk, no matter
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  how strong the DNA is.
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  Speaker 3: Precisely, First, they secured the absolute maximum punishment allowed by
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  New York state law without any risk of ap pellet reversal.
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  Speaker 2: Down the line, so we can't appeal it exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Yea, he received three consecutive life sentences without the possibility
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  of parole for the first green murder charges, plus additional
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  consecutive terms of twenty five years to life for the
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  second degree charges.
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  Speaker 1: He is never getting out.
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  Speaker 3: He is absolutely guaranteed to die in a conquer.
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  Speaker 1: And the second objective is arguably more important for the
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  human element of this case.
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  Speaker 3: They spared the families the unimaginable trauma of a brutal,
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  protracted trial.
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  Speaker 1: Which would have been grueling.
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  Speaker 3: A trial would have meant displaying graphic crime scene photos
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  on large screens. It would have meant defense attorneys aggressively
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  cross examining the victim's pasts, their struggles with addiction, their work,
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  and the sex trade.
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  Speaker 1: Just victim blaming all over again. Right.
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  Speaker 3: It would have dragged the family's pain through the global
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  media cycle for months on end. The plea deal is
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  a deliberate trade off.
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  Speaker 1: It makes perfect sense.
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  Speaker 3: This state gives up the public theater of a trial
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  in exchange for absolute, unbreakable certainty, legal finality, and a
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  vital measure of protection for the victim's families.
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  Speaker 1: So if we pull back and look at the entire
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  scope of what we've covered today, let's summarize it. We
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  have traced a horrific timeline that stretches from a wooded
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  area in nineteen ninety three all the way to a
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  packed courtroom in the summer of twenty twenty six. A
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  long journey explored the deeply unsettling reality of how Rex
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  Horman weaponized his completely mundane bureaucratic life as an architect
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  to maintain a monstrous double reality the camouflage. We've seen
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  how deep systemic societal biases against marginalized women provided him
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  with a massive, decade long head start, allowing him to
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  operate in the blind spots of society.
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  Speaker 3: And we've also traced the relentless, unstoppable march of justice
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  and science. We saw how the persistent, loud advocacy of
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  the victims' families refused to let the case die.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: They fought so hard they did.
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  Speaker 3: And we saw how that advocacy, combined with revolutionary advancements
• 39:37
  in data integration, digital footprint tracking, and microscopic DNA extraction,
• 39:41
  finally pierced his armor and brought him down.
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  Speaker 1: Why does a deep dive into something so dark matter
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  to you listening to this right now?
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  Speaker 3: It's an important question.
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  Speaker 1: It matters because it is a stark, unavoidable reminder of
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  the invisible struggles happening in our own communities every single day. Absolutely,
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  it forces us to critically examine how our society and
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  our institutions treat their most vulnerable members.
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  Speaker 3: It is also a profound testament to the incredible power
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  of modern science to uncover the truth, no matter how
• 40:09
  deeply it is buried in a marsh or hidden behind
• 40:12
  a firewall.
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  Speaker 1: And ultimately it proves that persistence, even when it takes
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  over thirty years, can overcome profound evil.
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  Speaker 3: The legal nightmare of the Gilgo Beach case is definitively over.
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  Rex Wierman will never breathe free air again.
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  Speaker 1: Oh he won't.
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  Speaker 3: But as the psychological impact statements made incredibly clear, the
• 40:29
  healing for those families is a lifelong, grueling process. The
• 40:33
  killer took bodies, but as Vali Max's father said, he
• 40:37
  could not take their souls.
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  Speaker 1: I want to leave you with a final lingering thought,
• 40:41
  a mystery that is still drawn directly from the active
• 40:44
  files of.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: This case, because there's still more to uncover.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Right because while Horeman is in prison forever, the prosecutors
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  explicitly noted during the finalization of the case that there
• 40:55
  is still one unidentified victim currently under active investigation.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: That's a hunt.
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  Speaker 1: Furthermore, questions still swirl among behavioral analysts about his full psychology.
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  Is it genuinely possible that a man operating with such
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  logistical complexity for this long could have had accomplices or confidants.
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  Speaker 3: It's definitely a debate.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: The investigation isn't truly closed. It has just entered a new,
• 41:18
  quieter phase.
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  Speaker 3: The science will continue to work on those remaining questions.
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  Speaker 1: So tomorrow, as you go about your day, as you
• 41:25
  commute to work, as you deal with bureaucracy, as you
• 41:28
  walk past the normal, boring, load bearing walls of your
• 41:30
  own life, remember that architect, Remember him. Remember how easily
• 41:34
  a monster blended into the morning train commute. And as
• 41:38
  technology like familial DNA and digital tracking continues to advance
• 41:41
  at light speed, making the world smaller and smaller, we
• 41:44
  have to wonder, what's it? How many other ordinary monsters
• 41:47
  are currently hiding right now behind the quiet facade of
• 41:50
  suburban normalcy, completely unaware that the microscopic countdown to their
• 41:54
  discovery has already begun.