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The Independent Member for Araluan Robyn Lambley was kicked out of Parliament yesterday, the day she motioned for a Select Committee for an enquiry into crime in Central Australia · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: But in what can only be described as pretty extraordinary
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  Speaker 1: scenes in NT Parliament yesterday afternoon, the Deputy Speaker Joel Bowden,
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  Speaker 1: through Robin Lamley, the Independent Member Farara Luhn out of
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  Speaker 1: the chamber for twenty four hours. It was in the
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  Speaker 1: midst obviously, of what the NT News has described as
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  Speaker 1: a pretty vigorous debate on the motion to establish a
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  Speaker 1: Parliamentary inquiry into crime in Central Australia. The Independent Member
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  Speaker 1: for our lu And Robin Lamley joins me on the
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  Speaker 1: line right now. Good morning to you.
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  Speaker 2: Robin, Good morning Katie, Robin.
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  Speaker 1: What happened yesterday?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it was, from my view, the usual argi bargie
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  Speaker 2: going on in the chamber. It was a vigorous debate.
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  Speaker 2: People were yelling, including me and Joel Bowden. The Deputy
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  Speaker 2: Speaker asked me to leave, but I didn't understand what
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  Speaker 2: he said, and not did most other people in the chamber,
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  Speaker 2: so I didn't hear him properly apparently.
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  Speaker 1: And.
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  Speaker 2: Inadvertently ignored his direction for me to leave for an hour,
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  Speaker 2: and then he took exception to that and I didn't
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  Speaker 2: know what the hell was going on, and he threw
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  Speaker 2: me out for twenty four hours, which he named me,
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  Speaker 2: which is a very extreme measure for a speaker to
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  Speaker 2: do or undertake, and named me. No one has ever
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  Speaker 2: been named before in the twelve years that I've been
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  Speaker 2: in Parliament. And then he threw me out for twenty
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  Speaker 2: four hours, which is also quite extraordinary, so convenient timing.
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  Speaker 2: Just before the Government voted down my motion for a
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  Speaker 2: parliamentary inquiry into crime and Alice Springs, in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of a debate, the Member for Barclay was on his
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  Speaker 2: feet speaking. The member for the opposition member a leader
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  Speaker 2: of the opposition, she spoke next. So I missed out
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  Speaker 2: being there for the actual vote, but it was voted
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  Speaker 2: down anyway.
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  Speaker 1: And Robin, had you been in there or not, by
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  Speaker 1: the sounds of it, it would have you wouldn't have had
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  Speaker 1: the numbers, it would have been voted down.
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  Speaker 2: Is that right, that's correct?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I think that people are probably going to be
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  Speaker 1: quite surprised, and a lot of people listening this morning,
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  Speaker 1: let's be honest, won't understand really the ins and outs
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  Speaker 1: of what goes on in Parliament. They'll certainly understand somebody
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  Speaker 1: being thrown out of the chamber, But did you do
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  Speaker 1: the wrong thing Robin. I guess you know, some listening
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  Speaker 1: will be thinking it's a bit cute to say that
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  Speaker 1: you didn't hear him, and you continued to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: to vocalize your thoughts. So is it a bit cute
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  Speaker 1: for you to.
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  Speaker 2: Say you didn't hear him. He shut us down and
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  Speaker 2: everyone was just sitting there and I didn't hear him.
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  Speaker 2: I mean the member sitting next to me, the Member
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  Speaker 2: for Brennan, she didn't hear him tell me to go either,
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  Speaker 2: nor did everyone else I spoke to. He didn't. He
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  Speaker 2: didn't do it sort of in a normal way. I
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  Speaker 2: heard him something that I thought it was a warning,
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  Speaker 2: which is common. You know, people have warned all this
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  Speaker 2: time in parliament. I truly didn't hear him, And had
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  Speaker 2: I been told to leave, I would have got up
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  Speaker 2: and left, because that's what you do. Otherwise you get
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  Speaker 2: yourself into whole world of trouble. Which happened. But look,
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  Speaker 2: I think it was. It was very confusing. Everyone was
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  Speaker 2: screaming and shouting, the Deputy Speaker obviously on me, which
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  Speaker 2: is fair enough. You get that, you cop it. I'm
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  Speaker 2: no angel and I'm no victim either, but it was
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  Speaker 2: I think it was interesting the timing they got rid
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  Speaker 2: of me, They ended up gagging me in the end,
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  Speaker 2: which was always going to happen. And you know, the
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  Speaker 2: sad part of it is that the Deputy Speaker, Joe
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  Speaker 2: Bowden was born and bred in Alice Springs and he
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  Speaker 2: didn't support this motion. You know, very disappointing, you know,
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  Speaker 2: for a time that's honored his family and looked after
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  Speaker 2: him throughout his childhood and at the last part of
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  Speaker 2: his life. Joe Bowden didn't support this motion either, nor
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  Speaker 2: did the Member for Gladia, the Minister for Central Australia.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't support this motion. So you know, this story
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  Speaker 2: isn't about me again. The fact that people are not
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  Speaker 2: supporting something that could be very constructive and helpful in
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  Speaker 2: addressing crime in Alice Springs, it's not very very sad,
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  Speaker 2: Katie and Robin.
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  Speaker 1: I've got a message in a moment that i'll read
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  Speaker 1: out from the former Speaker of the Northern Territory Legislative Assembly,
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  Speaker 1: Kesey Epuric. I know that she has also said that
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  Speaker 1: it's not something that she's seen happen throughout the time
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  Speaker 1: that she's been in the NT Parliament. I mean, being
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  Speaker 1: thrown out for twenty four hours. Is it is an
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  Speaker 1: extraordinary thing to do.
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  Speaker 2: It is I mean, you know, I can copy any
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  Speaker 2: sort of penalty, but I think this one was a
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  Speaker 2: bit harsh and in the context of the importance of
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  Speaker 2: what was happening in the chamber for the people of
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  Speaker 2: sen for Australia, I just I just don't like it,
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  Speaker 2: and I just don't think that it was called for.
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  Speaker 2: But I cannot reflect on the chair because if I do,
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  Speaker 2: if I criticize Joel Bowden for his decision to throw
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  Speaker 2: me out for twenty four hours, I could end up
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  Speaker 2: being thrown out for another twenty four hours, if not longer.
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  Speaker 2: It was taken to a vote in the parliament. The
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  Speaker 2: actual government voted me out for twenty four hours, because
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  Speaker 2: when you name someone, it goes to a vote of
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  Speaker 2: Parliament to exclude the person. So in actual fact, Joel
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  Speaker 2: triggered it and then the government voted to have me removed.
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  Speaker 2: So that was convenient in itself, the fact that the
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  Speaker 2: government got to vote to remove me. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's all very interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it certainly is the way. Well, that's right, that's
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  Speaker 1: exactly right. Well, Robin will keep in contact. I know
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  Speaker 1: that the people of Alice Springs. I've no doubt will
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  Speaker 1: be happy and proud of the fact that you stood
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  Speaker 1: up and you made sure that that discussion about crime
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  Speaker 1: was debated, because I've got to tell you, yesterday morning,
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  Speaker 1: I thought to myself, I reckon, they're going to shut
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  Speaker 1: this down and not even allow the debate to happen.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that that in itself was at least
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  Speaker 1: a good thing that that discussion was able to happen.
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  Speaker 1: It's a shame that that that that committee is not
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  Speaker 1: going to be moving forward. But yeah, Robin, well you've
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  Speaker 1: got a bit more time on your haplets. Yes, that's right,
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  Speaker 1: you've got a bit of time on.
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  Speaker 2: Speak about crime and Alice Springs, which will happen this afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: I've got enough on my plate.
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  Speaker 1: Robin Lambley, thanks so much for your time this morning.