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Who’s to blame for the Vikings 2025 season? Guess the Beer | TSH Ep. 127 · The Skol Hop

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Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
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Speaker 1: of The Skull Hop. I'm Evan and I'm Austin. We're's
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Speaker 1: just a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking
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Speaker 1: beer and talking about the Vikings.
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Speaker 2: Yeah we do. And Evan, how do you think I
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Speaker 2: did on that beer tasting game of yours?
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Speaker 1: I would give you a solid five hundred. I think
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Speaker 1: he did.
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Speaker 2: All right, man, you're too kind. We also spent a
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Speaker 2: few minutes talking about who really was to blame for
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Speaker 2: this twenty twenty five Viking season.
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Speaker 1: Then I think we could probably disagree, and I think
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Speaker 1: our argument probably could have been a little bit more developed.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, we could probably sit here and talk
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Speaker 1: about it all day.
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Speaker 2: But oh yeah, we got a whole off season for it.
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Speaker 1: That's all right.
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Speaker 2: All right, Well to find out what we're talking about,
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Speaker 2: go ahead and join us for episode one twenty seven
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Speaker 1: I'm excited for that. I'm also excited because we got
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Speaker 1: some new cups here. Yeah, and this isn't a sponsor, no,
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Speaker 1: but I think we should shout them out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So this is from a company, Top Cup.
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Speaker 1: Top Cup.
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Speaker 2: They sent us some essentially what they are are I
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Speaker 2: don't know if I can even say the name because
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Speaker 2: I'm be a brand, but pretty much solo cups in design,
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Speaker 2: but they are They're.
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Speaker 1: Nice, they're aluminuminum.
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Speaker 2: They've got a really good coating on them. Apparently they
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Speaker 2: say you can easily reuse them up to ten times.
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Speaker 2: And these ones are Vikings related. So again, if you're
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Speaker 2: not watching the episode on YouTube, go ahead and check
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Speaker 2: it out because you can see these cool cups. These
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Speaker 2: are probably the I guess, I don't know, sixteen ounce
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Speaker 2: versions maybe Yeah, there's something like sixteen twenty two something
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Speaker 2: like that. Essentially really awesome better versions of solo cups.
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Speaker 1: So we should put some beer in these top cups.
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Speaker 1: And the beer was also provided to us free or
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Speaker 1: like just like getting everything, yeah for free tonight. So
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Speaker 1: you got some beer delivered to you.
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Speaker 2: From We've had them before. It's a little brewery that
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Speaker 2: we like a lot. They're called Taitanka Brewing Company. They're
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Speaker 2: out of Titanka, Iowa, which is like about as north
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Speaker 2: and mid state as you can get. I'm pretty sure
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Speaker 2: they're really close to the Iowa Minnesota border, but yeah,
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Speaker 2: right smack dab in the middle of the state there.
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Speaker 2: They sent us a handful of beers. I don't know, yeah,
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Speaker 2: years ago, yeah, I would say, And we've been following
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Speaker 2: them ever since. We live pretty far away from them,
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Speaker 2: so it's kind of hard for us to get their beers.
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Speaker 1: Very We're gonna get there, though.
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Speaker 2: We do need to maybe on brew Hop three point zero,
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Speaker 2: which should be this this summer for planting things out right.
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Speaker 2: But they posted some cool hats and I'm wearing one
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Speaker 2: right now. I reached out to them, said hey, can
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Speaker 2: I buy one your hats? And they're like yeah, but
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Speaker 2: can we send you some beers? And we were like yeah,
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Speaker 2: so sure. So the good people over at Tatanka they
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Speaker 2: sent us a couple different styles of beer, and Evan
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Speaker 2: and I are going to try and both on the
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Speaker 2: episode tonight in these cool top cup cups. But we're
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Speaker 2: gonna flip flop which ones we're trying first. So Evan,
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Speaker 2: what's the one that you're gonna try first.
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Speaker 1: I've got Anka's Klondike Vanilla Porter, which one of the
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Speaker 1: like first beers I remember vividly remember having with you
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Speaker 1: was a Vanilla Porter, So I'm excited to try that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully this one is a lot better than the
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Speaker 2: one that we tried, and the one we tried first
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Speaker 2: ever beer we ever tried was pretty good too. I'm
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Speaker 2: excited to try both of them. But the one I
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Speaker 2: chose first was the I believe it's the forty watt
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Speaker 2: American Lagger. This one is a four point two percenter
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Speaker 2: sixteen outs. It says quality small batch brew. The can's
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Speaker 2: really cool. That is one thing I remember the last
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Speaker 2: time Titanka sent us some beer, like their can art
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Speaker 2: is well thought out and it's pretty cool, and you know,
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Speaker 2: on top of fantastic beers, I think we tried an
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Speaker 2: october Fest and an Ipa and a few other beers
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Speaker 2: last time, and they all were home run beers. So
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Speaker 2: I can't wait to try these ones out.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's poor them up, let's see what they're all about.
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Speaker 2: Oh, Evans already tipping his cup over here. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: I'm really appreciative of Titan. Seems like they've kind of
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Speaker 2: followed our show a little bit here. Oh man, I
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Speaker 2: hope I don't.
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Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, it's tough when it's not glass and you
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Speaker 1: can't see where the like the foam line is.
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Speaker 2: So I am remembering now. I believe he sent along
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Speaker 2: some instructions when he sent this beer. He made sure
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Speaker 2: to let us know these are unfiltered beers and to
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Speaker 2: try to give them, you know, a non aggressive role
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Speaker 2: before before we opened him for them, and you failed
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Speaker 2: to mention that, failed to mention that. I'm just now
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Speaker 2: remembering that. He also, I think he alluded to the
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Speaker 2: idea that they maybe when we open them a little foamy,
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Speaker 2: which is a good thing.
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Speaker 1: I think you know you want some foam.
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Speaker 2: You do want some some some head retention. We mentioned
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Speaker 2: that all the time. The only downside I'm seeing of
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Speaker 2: these top cup cups is I have no idea how
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Speaker 2: much beer, how much beer is in my cup, and
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Speaker 2: how much his foam. But we can, we can be
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Speaker 2: a little patient.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's let's give our initial taste and then we
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Speaker 1: can finish poring school school. Don't get the clink, But
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Speaker 1: what we lack in clink we make out for in
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Speaker 1: beer flavor. That's a good beer. This Vanilla Porter, you're
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Speaker 1: gonna like it when we switch here in a little bit.
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Speaker 1: It's really good, all right, Well tell me about it.
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Speaker 1: It's smooth, but it's also a malty and you know me,
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Speaker 1: I like malt and I like the flavor of beer,
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Speaker 1: so this hits the spot for me. It's not overly sweet.
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Speaker 1: It's not like the vanilla just like takes over the
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Speaker 1: vanilla is there. It's subtle, but it's a good beer.
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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna like it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and yours, the Vanilla Porter says it's a six
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Speaker 2: point three percenter.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, got a little bit of a kick to it,
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Speaker 1: but pretty solid. Put a few back and be okay.
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Speaker 2: This lagger is a full flavored lagger. This one, even
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Speaker 2: at four point two percent, you are drinking a beer
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Speaker 2: and it is delicious. This isn't like some watered down,
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Speaker 2: mass produced you know, you know, water of a beer.
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Speaker 2: This is a very full flavored lagger. I like this
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Speaker 2: one a lot, Evan. I know your your go to's
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Speaker 2: are the darker beers and laggers. I think you can
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Speaker 2: take them or leave them. But I think you're you're
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Speaker 2: you're a fan.
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Speaker 1: Of like I'm just a fan of beer.
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Speaker 2: You know, as far as the cheap beers you're a
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Speaker 2: fan of, like a Corse Light or something like that,
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Speaker 2: This is the ten thousand times better version of those
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Speaker 2: those cheaper, you know, light laggers. This is a very
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Speaker 2: full flavored, very delicious lagger and I really like it
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Speaker 2: a lot.
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm excited to try that one. I don't want
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Speaker 1: to take anything away from Taitanka because they've generously donated
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Speaker 1: the beer that we're drinking tonight, but I want to
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Speaker 1: I had a little bit of a wild hair, okay,
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Speaker 1: and I went a little bit rogue.
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Speaker 2: Oh man.
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Speaker 1: And we're gonna play a game.
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Speaker 2: Is this like Saw or do you want? You want?
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Speaker 2: You like to play a game?
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Speaker 1: But in order to play this game, you're gonna need
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Speaker 1: to move your laptop because we're gonna need the space
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Speaker 1: right in front.
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Speaker 2: Of you here, I'm scared of what are you doing too?
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Speaker 1: And also just you know a little bit of like
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Speaker 1: a peek behind the curtain. We have our camera in
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Speaker 1: front of us that we're recording with, so if you're
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Speaker 1: watching us on video, you'll see our camera, and we
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Speaker 1: usually have a TV right to the right of us
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Speaker 1: where we just kind of monitor the camera and make
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Speaker 1: sure that everything's good. I have to turn that off,
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Speaker 1: which is kind of terrifying because like when we can't
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Speaker 1: see the video and make sure that it's recording, right,
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Speaker 1: we never know if it's recording. But I'm gonna turn
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Speaker 1: it off because you can't see what I'm about to do.
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Speaker 1: What I'm about to do is I'm gonna put a
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Speaker 1: box in front of.
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Speaker 2: You, Okay, inside in the box.
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Speaker 1: Inside, What's in the box Inside the box are going
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Speaker 1: to be four beers, four beers that we've had on
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Speaker 1: this show. And again, not to take anything away from Titanka,
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Speaker 1: maybe take a few more SIPs of that, but these
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Speaker 1: four beers are gonna have a straw attached to them.
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Speaker 1: You might have seen this on TikTok or okay, Instagram.
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Speaker 1: I want you to try to guess what the four
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Speaker 1: beers are, and I'm gonna give you some hints along
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Speaker 1: the way. Okay, okay, we're back. We had some technical
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Speaker 1: difficulties there. All good, nothing big, But while we were away,
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Speaker 1: we added the slate of beers, the four beers that
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Speaker 1: I was mentioning before we broke there.
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Speaker 2: All I see our straws here.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, this is the trend, right, now, and I've
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Speaker 1: been wanting to do this for a while and I
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Speaker 1: kind of just went out on a wild hair and
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Speaker 1: I'm like, we're just gonna do it. Why not throwing darts?
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Speaker 2: Man?
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Speaker 1: So I got four beers in there, four different beers
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Speaker 1: that you've tried on this show. They're all Iowa beers.
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Speaker 1: I have right here on my phone an exact picture
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Speaker 1: replica of what you the audience, are seeing and what
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Speaker 1: Austin will be drinking. I'm gonna try to give you
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Speaker 1: some hints along the way, but I think you should
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Speaker 1: just start trying some beers and oh no, not that.
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Speaker 1: Let's see if we can figure them out.
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Speaker 2: All right, So let's try it. So we've tried all
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Speaker 2: of these on the show, any of them recent.
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Speaker 1: One of them was pretty recent, like definitely this football season.
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Speaker 1: One of them is a just a Stapley. I think
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Speaker 1: if you taste that one, you're gonna get it right away.
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Speaker 1: One of them was a beer that we had pretty
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Speaker 1: early on. Actually, two of them I think are beers
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Speaker 1: we've had pretty early on on the show, and one
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Speaker 1: of them, uh, we had with a guest. So all right,
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Speaker 1: those are my initial clues.
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Speaker 2: Okay, there's no like gags in here are there? I'm
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Speaker 2: not going to drink straight up, like I promise you something.
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Speaker 1: An audience at home. You can see there's there's nothing
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Speaker 1: to do. And all I did was crack the beers
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Speaker 1: and put the straws in. That's all I've done, trust you.
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Speaker 2: All right, I'm just gonna dive in to my immediate right.
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Speaker 1: Okay, paint me a word picture. What do you taste?
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Speaker 1: What kind of beer is it?
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Speaker 2: That's kind of happy?
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Speaker 1: Okay? I think that's a good initial flavor.
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Speaker 2: Okay, all right? Am I trying to guess like the
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Speaker 2: brewery and the type of and the beer and everything.
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Speaker 1: You can guess anything, or if you want to just
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Speaker 1: try all four and then kind of backtrack.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna try them all for that one's pretty happy,
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Speaker 2: pretty okay, say almost hazy.
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Speaker 1: So beer number one is happy hazy.
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Speaker 2: Hmmm, that's interesting. It's kind of a oh man.
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Speaker 1: I love that that one has a clear straw.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to see.
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Speaker 1: They are all beers, right, Everything is a beer, okay,
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Speaker 1: all right, They're all things that we've had on this show.
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Speaker 1: Every single one is in our beer list. Beer number three,
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Speaker 1: Beer number three. Here we go.
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Speaker 2: Hmm. Okay, well it's kind of a giveaway, or it's
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Speaker 2: not a giveaway, but it's helpful to know we've had
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Speaker 2: him on the show. So they are Iowa brood beers.
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Speaker 1: Everything's Iowa broud.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's an i p A right there. One
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Speaker 2: and four are definitely i pas.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're correct with that.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say four is that Big Groves Arms Race?
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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, it wouldn't be a bad guess. But
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Speaker 1: I think when you find out what four is, you'll
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Speaker 1: be like, yep, that's what that is. It might be
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Speaker 1: one of your favorites going back for more. We're really
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Speaker 1: quiet right now, but that's I know, I know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe put some music or something.
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Speaker 1: The white space is good.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not that's not pseudo Sue, is it?
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Speaker 1: Is it?
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Speaker 2: Pseudo Sue? Okay, all right, all right?
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Speaker 1: Number four pseudos surprising? You got it? All right?
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Speaker 2: So pseudo Sue. I'm definitely taking that one for sure.
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Speaker 2: We may be, you know, splitting some of.
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Speaker 1: These which you just did number two again. No, I
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Speaker 1: did number one again, number one again? Okay, Okay, I'm
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Speaker 1: looking here. Yep, we've had number one for sure. It
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Speaker 1: was a long time ago. We've had it.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 2: I don't think I'm gonna do very well on this.
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Speaker 2: I'm already feeling it.
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Speaker 1: You're one for one, Well, nah.
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Speaker 2: No, because I guess I guess wrong.
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Speaker 1: Okay, you're you've got one though on two guesses. You've
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Speaker 1: got one on two guesses.
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Speaker 2: I just know both of these are I pas. This
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Speaker 2: is pseudo, sue.
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Speaker 1: Move move to the middle to for now. Let's see
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Speaker 1: if we can get narrow those down a little bit.
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Speaker 1: What what style do you think? That one is? The
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Speaker 1: one you just had? Clear Straw's beer? Number two?
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Speaker 2: Is that a porter?
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Speaker 1: It's not a porter.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to do so poorly on this, all right?
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Speaker 2: Oh man, all right, So I tried.
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Speaker 1: To get one beer from your wheelhouse and one beer
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Speaker 1: from mine, and that's all I'm going to say on that.
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Speaker 1: You've already guessed the one from yours.
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Speaker 2: That's an amber, then for sure.
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Speaker 1: It is an amber beer. Yep, I love a good amber.
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Speaker 2: Is it is it a mill stream?
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Speaker 1: It is is.
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Speaker 2: It there brow house or whatever it's called.
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Speaker 1: That is the shield brow amber?
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Speaker 2: Okay, there we go. Yeah, that's what I was saying.
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Speaker 1: We'll give that to you, Okay, Yeah, you're you're you're
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Speaker 1: shooting like five hundred right now.
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Speaker 2: If you're giving me a lot of grace here at
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Speaker 2: the risk of just keep guessing it is number one
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Speaker 2: the arms race.
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Speaker 1: It is not. Oh my god, so there's no arms
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Speaker 1: race in here. Although that would have been a good
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Speaker 1: one to get, I did not. Honestly, I didn't see
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Speaker 1: that one on the shelf. When I was picking him
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Speaker 1: off the shelf. I was at the the other high
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Speaker 1: Vy tonight. I was not at our normal Devil's Glen
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Speaker 1: hivy hm hm. So I'll give you another hint here.
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Speaker 1: The first time we had a friend of the show,
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Speaker 1: forrest On, we had one of the remaining two beers.
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Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm trying to think because I actually just
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Speaker 2: listened back to that episode, oh really terribly long ago,
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Speaker 2: and we had oh is because the first time he
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Speaker 2: was on, he came on and he brought the beers.
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Speaker 2: He brought the beer, and I'm pretty sure one of
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Speaker 2: them was a lion Bridge yard sale?
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Speaker 1: Is that?
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Speaker 3: Is that?
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Speaker 2: What this is?
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Speaker 1: Which one do you think is the lion Bridge yard
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Speaker 1: sale yard sale? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Is it number three? No? No, come on.
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Speaker 1: No, you already guessed two. Two is the amber. That's
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Speaker 1: the shield brow amber from most Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so then number one is the yard sale.
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Speaker 1: That's all right.
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Speaker 2: You are giving me so much help on them.
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Speaker 1: You got it? Well, I mean it's it's almost an
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Speaker 1: impossible game. I feel like this one number three here,
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Speaker 1: you've gotten one, two and four. The third beer here
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Speaker 1: is going to be the hardest. Let me see, I
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Speaker 1: got to look through our list here and see if
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Speaker 1: I can figure out when we had this one, because
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Speaker 1: we had it recently.
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Speaker 2: Do you know, could you tell me the brewery?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a confluence.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm trying to think now which confluences we've had.
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Speaker 1: We've had quite a few. We've had four confluents in
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Speaker 1: our show. One of them was a well, no, hang on,
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Speaker 1: we've had three confluents.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: One of them was a collaboration, so technically two This
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Speaker 1: one is confluenced by itself.
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Speaker 2: Okay, man. Now I'm just trying to think of confluence beers.
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Speaker 2: Is this because I'm thinking, is like the extinction event?
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Speaker 2: Which that's an I p A.
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Speaker 1: What describe what you're tasting?
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Speaker 2: Is it like a It's a lighter beer, lighter flavor,
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Speaker 2: It's like a pilsner.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if this isn't No, it's not a pilsner. Nope.
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the picture right now.
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm happy with how I did. I'm stumped
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Speaker 2: on number three. I can't I won't be able to
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Speaker 2: get it.
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Speaker 1: This is the the Confluence Old Tavern.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I would have never gotten that.
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Speaker 1: I knew that was a little bit out there, but
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Speaker 1: it's the old Tavern light light logger. Is that what
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Speaker 1: it is? Yeah, light logger, premium light logger. I think
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Speaker 1: it's kind of like a like a an old style,
19:09
Speaker 1: like a Chicago old style kind of.
19:10
Speaker 2: And I just peaked the can definitely makes it look
19:14
Speaker 2: look like that. I'm very humbled. I didn't come into it.
19:19
Speaker 1: I think you did great.
19:20
Speaker 2: I didn't come into it really cocky thinking i'd get
19:23
Speaker 2: I'd go four for four, no problems. I'm kind of
19:28
Speaker 2: upset that I didn't get Pseudo Sue right away.
19:31
Speaker 1: I figured I knew you would get these, the two
19:35
Speaker 1: end caps. I figured you'd get those right away, just
19:37
Speaker 1: because they're very distinct, and it's not like, you know,
19:42
Speaker 1: we're not trying to hide anything here. All right, we're back.
19:53
Speaker 1: Which beer was your favorite?
19:55
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, without question, the Pseudo Sue was my favorite.
19:58
Speaker 2: They're all really good, and I'm glad to know that
20:01
Speaker 2: we've tried all of these on the show before. I
20:05
Speaker 2: don't remember trying the Old Tavern.
20:08
Speaker 1: That was episode one ten. Oh wow, so that wasn't
20:10
Speaker 1: that long. It was October. That was that long ago.
20:14
Speaker 1: But yeah, we've had all the other ones too, the
20:17
Speaker 1: the shild Brow. I guess we could do a quick yeah,
20:20
Speaker 1: I mean I remember, you know, Shilder episode thirteen, so
20:24
Speaker 1: the Millstream shield Brow. The lion Bridge Yard Sale was
20:29
Speaker 1: episode ten. Yeah, that was with Forrest, and then I
20:32
Speaker 1: feel like we had We've had Pseudo su on a
20:35
Speaker 1: couple of times, haven't we. Yeah, you had it a
20:40
Speaker 1: couple episodes ago one twenty one we had that and
20:44
Speaker 1: arms Race okay, and then we also had it way
20:47
Speaker 1: back on episode four. Ok. Yeah, I've had it a
20:51
Speaker 1: few times.
20:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of the one of the best ones
20:53
Speaker 2: there are. So that was fun. I really enjoyed that.
20:56
Speaker 2: Even though I'll say I failed, you say I did
20:59
Speaker 2: pretty good. I will say that I failed. I needed
21:02
Speaker 2: some help on all of them.
21:03
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say you bad it Like basically five hundred.
21:06
Speaker 2: I got their styles correctly, but man, I needed some help.
21:11
Speaker 2: That was still fun though, and it was beer, you know,
21:13
Speaker 2: the arms race.
21:14
Speaker 1: I could see how that would be tricky, especially since
21:16
Speaker 1: we're drinking other beer too.
21:17
Speaker 2: Ye kind give me a lot of grace, man, I
21:20
Speaker 2: appreciate it.
21:21
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just trying to build it up so
21:23
Speaker 1: that when it's my turn to do it, and you're
21:26
Speaker 1: just as graceful with me.
21:27
Speaker 2: Because hours all the way around.
21:30
Speaker 1: I still have one in the fridge upstairs that I
21:32
Speaker 1: never finished.
21:33
Speaker 2: Is that the Tickle my Pickle from what is it? Barntown? Oh?
21:37
Speaker 1: My gosh, Barntown. You make some good beer, but that
21:40
Speaker 1: one wasn't one.
21:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we should have some barn Town's here in
21:44
Speaker 2: the future. Yeah, good game. We'll keep that going, especially,
21:49
Speaker 2: you know, during the off season when there's not a
21:51
Speaker 2: ton of specific Vikings news to talk about, which is
21:56
Speaker 2: the case right now, there's not a ton of Vikings
21:58
Speaker 2: specific news. There's been a lot of like random almost
22:05
Speaker 2: league slash rumors that have come out about how the
22:08
Speaker 2: team feels, specifically about J. J. McCarthy. Obviously, we're still
22:14
Speaker 2: feeling the wake of Quasi Dafamensa being fired, and there
22:18
Speaker 2: hasn't really been any big splash since then. I think
22:23
Speaker 2: we're just now getting into the time when teams can
22:26
Speaker 2: franchise tag players. But I don't even know who the
22:28
Speaker 2: Vikings would theoretically be a reasonable franchise tag player for
22:35
Speaker 2: the Vikings to to use that on this year. Yeah,
22:39
Speaker 2: there's a lot of rumory clickbaity type stuff out there,
22:42
Speaker 2: but nothing really of tangible value.
22:45
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, agreed, And honestly, the biggest talker
22:50
Speaker 1: is going to be the quarterback thing, right, Like it's
22:53
Speaker 1: that's just been that has been the theme of Vikings
22:57
Speaker 1: football for the last I don't know hand years and
23:00
Speaker 1: what are they going to do with that position? And
23:03
Speaker 1: we thought two years ago when they drafted JJ McCarthy
23:06
Speaker 1: that that was it. That was that was all she wrote.
23:10
Speaker 2: And it still could be. It doesn't feel like it
23:12
Speaker 2: will be, but it could be. I have faith.
23:15
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like it will be, though, And that's
23:17
Speaker 1: the thing, like, you know, we're sitting in this spot
23:20
Speaker 1: where it's like, well, all the rumors are circulating about
23:24
Speaker 1: it could be Kyler and it could be, it could
23:26
Speaker 1: be Mac Jones and it could be Kirk Cousins makes
23:29
Speaker 1: his uh, you know, reappearance with the Vikings and you
23:33
Speaker 1: know all this, all this stuff, and I already shared
23:37
Speaker 1: my opinion on Kirk Cousins a couple of weeks ago, like,
23:39
Speaker 1: I'm I'm fine. If he comes back, it'll be a
23:43
Speaker 1: developmental thing. It won't be a you know, we're gonna
23:46
Speaker 1: win a super Bowl behind him, But maybe he gets
23:49
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy to that next step in his development. I
23:52
Speaker 1: don't know, we'll see, but we're right back where kind
23:57
Speaker 1: of we've always been, and it's kind of frustrating. Yeah.
24:01
Speaker 2: I mean, every team you're either searching for your coach,
24:05
Speaker 2: or you're searching for your quarterback, or you're searching for
24:07
Speaker 2: your GM, and on some level, it feels like the
24:10
Speaker 2: Vikings are in some form of all three. I feel
24:13
Speaker 2: like the coach is still pretty set. I'm still behind
24:16
Speaker 2: KOC and I still am me personally as of right now,
24:22
Speaker 2: I'm ready to just keep rolling with JJ, at least
24:25
Speaker 2: for twenty twenty six as quarterback. Not that he shouldn't
24:29
Speaker 2: have any competition, not that it should just be one
24:32
Speaker 2: hundred percent handed to him, but I think he should
24:34
Speaker 2: be you know, etched in right now as QB one
24:38
Speaker 2: and hold that spot until he actually loses it, not
24:42
Speaker 2: until he throws three picks in a training camp practice
24:46
Speaker 2: and then they feel like they have to swap him
24:48
Speaker 2: out for Max Brosmer and roll with that just to
24:51
Speaker 2: save face. I don't know, But until JJ totally loses
24:55
Speaker 2: the job, I'm ready for him to venture in his
24:59
Speaker 2: QB one.
25:00
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this question, because I've seen
25:02
Speaker 1: this kind of all over the place the last week
25:05
Speaker 1: or so, and I'm curious to know your thoughts. I
25:11
Speaker 1: think I kind of know where I stand with it,
25:14
Speaker 1: and I obviously we all know where ownership stands with this, Yeah,
25:21
Speaker 1: but we may all in in different places on this discussion.
25:25
Speaker 1: And that's okay. Who do you think is to blame
25:30
Speaker 1: for the overall outcome of this twenty twenty five season?
25:35
Speaker 1: And I mean it could range anywhere from ownership, the GM,
25:40
Speaker 1: the coach specific players. Who's to blame for this kind
25:46
Speaker 1: of really mediocre season? That I would also just add,
25:49
Speaker 1: like Dustin Baker has called it, like they seem to
25:52
Speaker 1: be good than mid, than good than mid, and good
25:54
Speaker 1: than mid. And this was definitely the like mid slash
25:57
Speaker 1: like lower mid season for the Vikings.
26:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is kind of crazy too, when you think
26:02
Speaker 2: they had they had a winning.
26:03
Speaker 1: Record, like on the last five games of the year.
26:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, which is not nothing. Yeah, JJ McCarthy didn't
26:11
Speaker 2: come out in all five of those final wins and
26:14
Speaker 2: look like Tom Brady, you know, like, but I'll argue
26:18
Speaker 2: against a Packers team that didn't care about that game.
26:21
Speaker 2: We were at that game, they didn't you know, they
26:25
Speaker 2: sat most of their team and they didn't really put
26:27
Speaker 2: forth a ton of effort. But JJ McCarthy against the
26:30
Speaker 2: Packers in the final game, mate, some throws he like
26:34
Speaker 2: if you were to go back and look at the
26:35
Speaker 2: highlights right up until the point where he took himself out,
26:39
Speaker 2: which some people are saying he had like a bona
26:41
Speaker 2: fide broken hand in that game, which shoot, if he
26:44
Speaker 2: did that with a broken hand, that's just making my
26:47
Speaker 2: point even better. But for the first half and what's
26:51
Speaker 2: first series of the second half that he did play,
26:54
Speaker 2: JJ looked good. Like he he was flinging it. He
26:58
Speaker 2: made some really good throws, some decent decisions, was running around.
27:03
Speaker 2: He still had that little leg flip. But all that
27:05
Speaker 2: to say, in those final five games, he I mean,
27:10
Speaker 2: I don't think he played all five of them. Definitely
27:12
Speaker 2: the Christmas game was a Max Brozmer fifty yards something
27:16
Speaker 2: a fair It's not like again, JJ looked like Tom
27:20
Speaker 2: Brady in those five games, but he still started most
27:23
Speaker 2: of them, and the team still, to their credit, won
27:26
Speaker 2: five games to end the season. Winning five straight games
27:29
Speaker 2: in the NFL, regardless of who your opponent is and
27:32
Speaker 2: what their motivations are, that's not easy. So give credit
27:38
Speaker 2: to that and to the wins that they got before then.
27:43
Speaker 2: Because this team was injury riddled this year, it was
27:49
Speaker 2: decision riddled. It made some poor decisions on every field,
27:55
Speaker 2: every tier of the team. There were poor decisions made.
28:00
Speaker 2: Long story short for my answer to your question, who
28:03
Speaker 2: is to blame for the poor season? First and foremost,
28:07
Speaker 2: for me, it's JJ McCarthy, which might sound a little
28:10
Speaker 2: weird because I'm sitting here giving him a little bit
28:12
Speaker 2: of praise, but I mean it's even with the praise
28:16
Speaker 2: I'm giving him, there's no secret he didn't look great.
28:19
Speaker 2: He had some of the worst games a quarterback has
28:23
Speaker 2: ever played in Viking's history, some of the worst games
28:26
Speaker 2: a quarterback has ever played in NFL history. This season
28:30
Speaker 2: as the starter. He also this is not an excuse.
28:34
Speaker 2: He would have been bad fully healthy, I think this year,
28:38
Speaker 2: but he was dealing with some injuries. He missed what
28:41
Speaker 2: was that a seven game stretch, six to seven games
28:44
Speaker 2: stretch where he had cool and then the game or
28:49
Speaker 2: two where all of a sudden he mysteriously went into
28:53
Speaker 2: the concussion protocol on Tuesday after a game. It just
28:58
Speaker 2: felt like a man up of a season. And I
29:02
Speaker 2: think if JJ had just consistently looked good and made
29:06
Speaker 2: good throws and was able to take whatever it like
29:12
Speaker 2: footwork notes that were given to him and actually look
29:16
Speaker 2: like a Sam Darnold type quarterback, which is asking a lot,
29:21
Speaker 2: then this season would have gone way better and a
29:25
Speaker 2: lot of the decisions, would you know, poor decisions would
29:28
Speaker 2: have been looked over, and Quasi Dafamenso probably still has
29:31
Speaker 2: a job for better for worse. But yeah, I think
29:35
Speaker 2: he's not the only one to blame. But first and foremost,
29:39
Speaker 2: a poor first starting year for JJ McCarthy is the
29:43
Speaker 2: first thing you have to look at when you're talking
29:45
Speaker 2: about why this season was so poor for the Vikings.
29:50
Speaker 1: So upon further review, Carson Wentz started five games for
29:54
Speaker 1: the Vikings, three before the bye, two after the bye,
29:58
Speaker 1: and that's when JJ McCarthy came back to start. Now,
30:01
Speaker 1: I think JJ played in some of those games, especially
30:04
Speaker 1: after the bye.
30:06
Speaker 2: I don't know that, Diddy. I don't think JJ played
30:10
Speaker 2: unless he started. I don't think he came in off
30:12
Speaker 2: the bench at all. I think there was a game
30:14
Speaker 2: or two where he was like he dressed as the
30:17
Speaker 2: emergency quarterback, but I don't think he ever actually got
30:21
Speaker 2: on the field without starting the game.
30:24
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're probably right. So anyways, Carson started Week three, four, five,
30:29
Speaker 1: Week six was the bye, and then Carson started Week
30:32
Speaker 1: seven and eight.
30:33
Speaker 2: Which those were well, no, never mind, those were the
30:35
Speaker 2: two games or were those the London and Dublin games?
30:39
Speaker 1: No, Cleveland and Pittsburgh Week four and five right before
30:43
Speaker 1: the bye. Oh, okay, we're the London and Dublin games.
30:47
Speaker 1: Dublin first, then London and then the bye. And then
30:51
Speaker 1: Carson came out after the bye and played Week seven,
30:54
Speaker 1: and I think we were we were kind of banging
30:56
Speaker 1: the table for I could probably make this bigger if
31:00
Speaker 1: who was Week seven Carson wentz what against the Lions?
31:05
Speaker 1: Lions interesting because I thought JJ McCarthy plays. This is
31:09
Speaker 1: just what Google Gemini is telling.
31:11
Speaker 2: Me, you know, Oh Man, you can't always trust the
31:13
Speaker 2: AI right now, I don't.
31:14
Speaker 1: I'm just going off of what it's telling me. Dude,
31:17
Speaker 1: I don't know. It feels pretty accurate to me.
31:23
Speaker 2: This is great radio because I really thought, yeah, because
31:26
Speaker 2: that was the first Lions game. Was when JJ threw
31:30
Speaker 2: that clutch pass to Jalen Naylor with like a minute
31:34
Speaker 2: twenty something left to ice the game and it was
31:37
Speaker 2: on third or fourth.
31:39
Speaker 1: Yeah.
31:39
Speaker 2: I know what Gemini saying, but ladies and gentlemen don't
31:42
Speaker 2: always trust what what AI is telling you because it's
31:46
Speaker 2: not always accurate.
31:50
Speaker 1: Yeah.
31:50
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy started that that first Lions game. He didn't
31:53
Speaker 2: he didn't play in the second Lions game because that
31:56
Speaker 2: was on Christmas on Netflix and that was the Max Bros.
32:00
Speaker 2: We're sure where he threw for like fifty yards or something.
32:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this might be yeah, yeah, gem and I
32:10
Speaker 1: might be pulling from multiple seasons now that I look
32:13
Speaker 1: at it, I'm just I'm trying to process it all.
32:15
Speaker 1: It's yeah, all at once, and yeah this isn't the
32:18
Speaker 1: right season. Okay, no, you're right, you're right.
32:22
Speaker 2: But anyways, Yeah, I to go back to the question,
32:25
Speaker 2: who was that fault? I think, yeah, yes, there were
32:28
Speaker 2: lots of people that made a lot of poor decisions
32:30
Speaker 2: and played poorly and were injured and whatever excuse you
32:35
Speaker 2: want to give, but I think all of that, or
32:39
Speaker 2: lots of that could have been glossed over and forgotten
32:43
Speaker 2: about and overcome. Excuse me, man, I'm burping like crazy.
32:50
Speaker 2: A lot of that could have been overcome if JJ
32:53
Speaker 2: McCarthy had just had a better season. You know, you
32:56
Speaker 2: can you can outperform an injured left tackle. If you
33:02
Speaker 2: can throw the ball quicker, you know, you don't have
33:04
Speaker 2: to get sacked all the time. And yes, I'm saying
33:06
Speaker 2: that as a guy that's never played football past sophomore
33:09
Speaker 2: year and it's never started a football game ever. So,
33:12
Speaker 2: but like, if you got to think, if the defense
33:14
Speaker 2: was better against the Eagles, twenty two points that the
33:18
Speaker 2: Vikings offense scored could have won. If the Vikings had
33:23
Speaker 2: done anything against the Chargers, they wouldn't have been blown out.
33:26
Speaker 2: You know, if if they had done anything against the
33:29
Speaker 2: Falcons that twenty two points of the Falcons scored, they
33:32
Speaker 2: could have overcome those points. So if JJ McCarthy had
33:35
Speaker 2: been Sam Darnold, then you're probably overcoming a lot of
33:41
Speaker 2: those other poor mistakes. So first step for me, JJ McCarthy, Evan,
33:45
Speaker 2: who do you think is the main reason this is
33:49
Speaker 2: a poor season?
33:50
Speaker 1: First, I would go back and just correct. In our house,
33:54
Speaker 1: we call it Jimmini, not Gemini, but jimminy Jimini was wrong.
34:01
Speaker 1: Jemini was right in that Carson Wentz did start five
34:05
Speaker 1: games for the Vikings, but Jamini had the wrong five games.
34:09
Speaker 1: I think it pulled from the twenty twenty four twenty
34:12
Speaker 1: five season, not the twenty five to twenty six season.
34:17
Speaker 1: So Carson Wentz his first start was Week three against
34:20
Speaker 1: the Bengals and that was a blow That was the
34:23
Speaker 1: forty eight to ten blowout. But the week before it
34:27
Speaker 1: was the twenty two to six blowout against the Falcons. Yeah,
34:32
Speaker 1: that JJ McCarthy started, but he played through. Carson Wentz
34:37
Speaker 1: played through the the week. What would that be? Well,
34:45
Speaker 1: that was Week five seven eight, Week eight game at
34:50
Speaker 1: the Chargers.
34:51
Speaker 2: Okay, that Thursday night game.
34:53
Speaker 1: I think Carson Wentz started that Thursday night game against
34:56
Speaker 1: the Chargers, not a great game for the Viking. He
35:00
Speaker 1: was thirty seven to ten and then Carson Wentz came
35:03
Speaker 1: out or not Carson Wentz JJ McCarthy came out and
35:06
Speaker 1: won against the Lions in week whatever. That was, Week eight,
35:11
Speaker 1: week nine. Yeah, and we'd all been pounding the table
35:15
Speaker 1: at that point, like put somebody else in, you know,
35:18
Speaker 1: So stack correction. We've got that straightened out now, we
35:23
Speaker 1: kind of know we have the context. We're good.
35:25
Speaker 2: We didn't even need our stack guy Dennis.
35:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, he probably would have corrected it.
35:29
Speaker 2: If you've already commented, please don't delete that comment.
35:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep it in because we're just a couple of
35:35
Speaker 1: dudes who don't know what we're talking about.
35:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've had several SIPs of beer at this point.
35:40
Speaker 1: But to answer your question, I think you did pretty
35:43
Speaker 1: well answering the original question. Who's to blame? You said
35:46
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, and I don't disagree with you. The product
35:50
Speaker 1: on the field is what ultimately matters, right when it
35:53
Speaker 1: comes to wins and losses, and the quarterback is probably
35:59
Speaker 1: one of the most responsible positions for the product on
36:03
Speaker 1: the field. So you're not wrong. I would say to
36:06
Speaker 1: say that he's to blame, but I'm gonna I'm gonna
36:10
Speaker 1: backtrack a little bit and say it's it's gotta be
36:14
Speaker 1: coaching and management, you know, like they're responsible for putting
36:19
Speaker 1: those players on the field, and they're responsible for the coaches,
36:23
Speaker 1: responsible for calling the plays for the players on the field,
36:27
Speaker 1: and developing the players on the field and equipping the
36:30
Speaker 1: players on the field to uh to successfully navigate the
36:37
Speaker 1: ups and downs of an NFL game. And I think
36:41
Speaker 1: what we're experiencing right now is maybe a little bit
36:44
Speaker 1: of a behind the curtain to what's really the reality
36:50
Speaker 1: in the NFL right now. And we don't see this
36:53
Speaker 1: a whole lot where there's kind of this dissension between
36:57
Speaker 1: the GM, the coach, and the quarterback probably arguably the
37:02
Speaker 1: three most important individuals in an NFL organization, and I
37:07
Speaker 1: think there was dissension in those three roles this past year.
37:13
Speaker 1: I don't think your GM, your head coach, and your
37:17
Speaker 1: quarterback were on the same page. Ever, I don't think
37:20
Speaker 1: that ever happened this Vikings season. It may have happened
37:25
Speaker 1: in the past, right, It may have happened with two
37:28
Speaker 1: of the three in that triad, But I don't know
37:32
Speaker 1: that this particular football season we ever saw that happen. Yeah,
37:36
Speaker 1: and we saw koc put Carson wentz out there kind
37:41
Speaker 1: of as this sacrificial lamb to just like you know, Well,
37:46
Speaker 1: we're just gonna buy some time and see what happens.
37:48
Speaker 1: And Carson Wentz I said it last episode. I think
37:53
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz was the best quarterback that played football for
37:57
Speaker 1: the Vikings this season.
37:58
Speaker 2: Which is you're right, but it's.
38:02
Speaker 1: It sucks to say it, but I think I'm right.
38:05
Speaker 1: And I think J. J. McCarthy can be a good quarterback.
38:12
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be a great quarterback. I think
38:14
Speaker 1: he can be a good quarterback. I think he can
38:17
Speaker 1: be probably a I don't know Kyler Murray level. How
38:23
Speaker 1: do you say, Well, it's kind of intentional. I think
38:27
Speaker 1: he could be maybe a Baker Mayfield like at his max, like,
38:31
Speaker 1: I think he could he could be a playoff caliber
38:34
Speaker 1: quarterback if he can figure out how to manage a game.
38:36
Speaker 1: But I don't know that he's a Super Bowl caliber quarterback.
38:39
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's an NFL and VP caliber quarterback.
38:43
Speaker 1: And I don't know that he's a Pro Bowl quarterback.
38:45
Speaker 2: I'm surprise you said the words Pro Bowl.
38:49
Speaker 1: Well, that doesn't mean a whole lot right now either.
38:51
Speaker 2: Nothing. Sanders is apparently a Pro Bowl.
38:53
Speaker 1: Quarterback, and so is Joe Flacco at forty whatever.
38:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but not when he was winning the Super Bowl.
38:59
Speaker 1: So I've dodged the question a little bit. If I
39:02
Speaker 1: were to blame somebody just flat out who's to blame
39:07
Speaker 1: To answer that question, I'm gonna do it in Austin,
39:11
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna non answer that, And I'm just gonna
39:14
Speaker 1: say it's kind of a combination of all three. I
39:16
Speaker 1: think it's a combination of Quacy for misidentifying the talent.
39:20
Speaker 1: I think it's Koc for mismanaging that talent. And I
39:24
Speaker 1: think it's JJ McCarthy for not living up to rising
39:29
Speaker 1: up to the expectation of being the Vikings quarterback or
39:34
Speaker 1: just simply being a starting quarterback in the NFL period.
39:38
Speaker 1: So it's it's a non answer, but it's also I
39:41
Speaker 1: think kind of what gets down to the core of
39:44
Speaker 1: the problem. And maybe maybe I think my opinion is
39:50
Speaker 1: and we can talk about this a little bit, I
39:51
Speaker 1: guess I think Craycy was kind of the scapegoat of
39:54
Speaker 1: the whole thing. I think he's the fall guy for
39:57
Speaker 1: it all, and I think he was actually a pretty
40:00
Speaker 1: decent GM. We knew he struggled drafting, but I think
40:05
Speaker 1: he did well bringing in players from free agency and
40:08
Speaker 1: I think he had a good business mind, and I
40:11
Speaker 1: think he was an okay GM. People out there might
40:15
Speaker 1: disagree with me, and that's fine.
40:16
Speaker 2: I would disagree, but respectfully, I.
40:19
Speaker 1: Said, okay. I didn't say he's like, you know Robert
40:22
Speaker 1: Craft or you know, you know these Robert Craft as
40:27
Speaker 1: an owner. I guess he's not a GM, but like,
40:30
Speaker 1: he's not this super Bowl winning dynasty leading GM in
40:37
Speaker 1: my mind. But I don't think he's the bottom of
40:40
Speaker 1: the barrel. He's never going to get a job in
40:43
Speaker 1: the NFL type of GM either. I think he'll get
40:45
Speaker 1: a job somewhere.
40:47
Speaker 2: I'll be interested to see what he does next, because
40:50
Speaker 2: it may not be football. He may move on and
40:53
Speaker 2: be extremely successful outside of sports. I don't know, or
40:57
Speaker 2: you know, he may end up becoming a GM again
40:59
Speaker 2: and winning Super Bowls. You know, I never know.
41:01
Speaker 1: It'll probably be against the Viking. Exactly.
41:04
Speaker 2: How crazy you would that be?
41:05
Speaker 1: The most Vikings thing ever? Exactly?
41:08
Speaker 2: You mentioned something a few times. They're talking about the
41:14
Speaker 2: line of the GM coach, quarterback and how that needs
41:18
Speaker 2: to be in tandem, and I'll argue a little bit.
41:20
Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think those three need to
41:24
Speaker 2: be in tandem. But I think the most important parts
41:27
Speaker 2: of that are GM coach. And you said a few
41:31
Speaker 2: minutes ago that maybe at one point the GM and
41:35
Speaker 2: coach Quacy and KOC were on board and in line
41:40
Speaker 2: with the quarterback of JJ McCarthy. But I think along
41:45
Speaker 2: some way, And obviously we don't know anything other than
41:50
Speaker 2: what we read on Twitter. We have no sources, but
41:54
Speaker 2: it's kind of evident when it's very clear that Quacy
41:58
Speaker 2: absolutely was the scapegoat. He was the one that was
42:02
Speaker 2: blamed for everything. But and at least he's the only
42:08
Speaker 2: one that has lost his job so far, but that
42:10
Speaker 2: could change here a year from now, we could be
42:12
Speaker 2: talking about a new coach and a new GM. But
42:15
Speaker 2: I think on some level, after a certain amount of time,
42:19
Speaker 2: maybe the GM and coach stopped agreeing on the quarterback.
42:22
Speaker 2: And maybe that was when the other quarterback, the fill
42:27
Speaker 2: in quarterback, Sam Donald, started playing well. And it sure
42:31
Speaker 2: seems like KOC would have been happy keeping Sam Donald.
42:34
Speaker 2: And I'll say it again, I've said a thousand times
42:36
Speaker 2: at the time letting Sam Donald walk was the right choice.
42:41
Speaker 2: When they did it, Yes, it turned out to be dumb,
42:44
Speaker 2: and he made them look idiotic by winning the Super Bowl.
42:47
Speaker 2: But when they let him walk, he had just had
42:50
Speaker 2: two of his worst games as a Viking, and you're
42:53
Speaker 2: not gonna move on from you your career defining move
43:00
Speaker 2: by drafting a first round quarterback just because a guy
43:04
Speaker 2: had a pretty decent season but then ended up becoming
43:07
Speaker 2: what we all thought he was anyways before turning it
43:10
Speaker 2: around and winning a Super Bowl. But we couldn't have known.
43:14
Speaker 2: I think the real change was the GM was not
43:18
Speaker 2: going to be on board with moving away and putting
43:22
Speaker 2: a ton of assets and a ton of moves into
43:26
Speaker 2: keeping or trading for a way better quarterback after they
43:30
Speaker 2: had just drafted a guy in JJ McCarthy, and maybe
43:33
Speaker 2: the coach was not on board with that. So you
43:35
Speaker 2: see things like, hey, we're going to keep Carson Wentz
43:39
Speaker 2: on the field longer than he probably should be because
43:42
Speaker 2: we're not ready to throw JJ McCarthy out there, or hey,
43:45
Speaker 2: we're going to be overly sensitive whenever JJ McCarthy says, ah,
43:48
Speaker 2: my head kind of hurts. Hell, go see the Traders.
43:52
Speaker 2: Might be a concussion. And again, maybe that's not what's happened.
43:55
Speaker 1: I don't know.
43:55
Speaker 2: Maybe Koc was fighting for him to be on the
43:57
Speaker 2: field every second of his you know, but it sure
44:01
Speaker 2: seemed like Koc was not on board with fully jumping
44:05
Speaker 2: in with JJ McCarthy, and it took a full releasing
44:08
Speaker 2: of the reins to finally get JJ McCarthy to throw
44:12
Speaker 2: for some yards, you know, let him be like, I
44:15
Speaker 2: don't care how his feet look, let him throw the ball.
44:18
Speaker 2: And that's just not the kind of coach Koc is.
44:21
Speaker 2: He wants to be in control, and we've seen him
44:23
Speaker 2: win a ton of games when he's in control. So
44:27
Speaker 2: Quacy was definitely the scapegoat, and it probably should have
44:30
Speaker 2: happened sooner rather than later. But hopefully they're able to
44:33
Speaker 2: write this ship. And I don't know if they're going
44:36
Speaker 2: to go all season without a GM and have Rob
44:39
Speaker 2: Brazinski be the interim for longer than expected, or if
44:44
Speaker 2: they're going to get a new GM right before the
44:46
Speaker 2: season and then if they don't win multiple playoff games,
44:49
Speaker 2: then the GM's gonna be like, hey, I need a
44:51
Speaker 2: new coach and a new quarterback because these aren't my guys.
44:54
Speaker 2: That would be a definitely a most Viking things ever.
45:00
Speaker 1: Well, the most skullhop thing ever is I'm gonna switch
45:03
Speaker 1: beers here I'm gonna try this other Titanka beer that
45:07
Speaker 1: you tried. It's their forty watt American Lagger. You you
45:12
Speaker 1: hyped this thing up a little bit ago, so I'm
45:16
Speaker 1: excited to try this. And I hope that you're gonna
45:19
Speaker 1: try your Vanilla Porter there, because that Vanilla Porter was
45:25
Speaker 1: top notch.
45:26
Speaker 2: I'm very excited to try that. I'm still working on
45:28
Speaker 2: the the pseudo su that I was trying, but yeah,
45:32
Speaker 2: you're gonna try that, and it's gonna be a more flavorful.
45:38
Speaker 1: Light beer, and we're gonna be able to see. We're
45:41
Speaker 1: gonna be able to see it now because I'm pouring
45:43
Speaker 1: it into one of our.
45:44
Speaker 2: You're no longer using our cool top cup.
45:47
Speaker 1: Well, I don't like to mix beer, you know.
45:50
Speaker 2: I've never been bothered by that.
45:52
Speaker 1: And we have more top cups. We have a lot more,
45:55
Speaker 1: quite a few. I have a lot more top cups.
45:58
Speaker 1: But we'll we'll wash that one and this beer. Though,
46:02
Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting to just see the color on
46:05
Speaker 1: this forty watt here. It's lights. It's kind of like
46:09
Speaker 1: like your bud light or your your cores light kind
46:13
Speaker 1: of thing.
46:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, in color, yeah, for sure.
46:15
Speaker 1: But the head retention is strong. Like two thirds of
46:19
Speaker 1: my mug right now is foam, which is kind of crazy.
46:24
Speaker 2: I promise you it's worth it. It is super good.
46:27
Speaker 2: Seeing it come out of the can is like almost clear.
46:30
Speaker 2: And that is by no means a diss on this beer.
46:33
Speaker 2: It is full of flavor. You're gonna like this one along.
46:36
Speaker 1: And don't. I don't judge a beer by its color,
46:39
Speaker 1: like I will drink almost any beer, it doesn't matter.
46:42
Speaker 1: Like I've had purple beers and green beers and blue
46:47
Speaker 1: beers and golden beers and brown beer. I've had everything, all.
46:50
Speaker 2: Right, Maybe maybe you're influencing the beers that I'm going
46:54
Speaker 2: to have you try. When I set you up for
46:56
Speaker 2: this blind beer.
46:58
Speaker 1: One of the beers that I wanted to get but
47:00
Speaker 1: didn't was the Crushberry. You're gonna say that, well, I
47:05
Speaker 1: remember early on in the show, like like we'd only
47:09
Speaker 1: really ever had beers on the show that we were like,
47:13
Speaker 1: I like this beer, yeah, And I wanted to like
47:16
Speaker 1: kind of branch out a little bit and like just
47:19
Speaker 1: take a risk and find a beer that we didn't like.
47:21
Speaker 1: And I think that's really only happened legitimately one time
47:24
Speaker 1: with that Barntown Pickle beer that we referenced earlier. You
47:28
Speaker 1: liked it a little more than I did.
47:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wore on me after a while though.
47:32
Speaker 1: But eventually we both were like, nah, this isn't for me.
47:35
Speaker 1: And it was a gluten free beer, and it might
47:38
Speaker 1: be for some people out there who want the alcohol
47:41
Speaker 1: of a beer but don't want the gluten of a beer.
47:44
Speaker 2: And I didn't even know it was gluten free.
47:46
Speaker 1: It is. I still have one from that night because
47:49
Speaker 1: I only drank one. You drank two, and it was
47:53
Speaker 1: a four pack.
47:53
Speaker 2: I think that's one that you didn't even finish. Is
47:55
Speaker 2: that right? M hm. Not to call you out, but.
47:58
Speaker 1: No, you called me out. That's okay. But anyways, Yeah,
48:03
Speaker 1: I remember that that uh, that Crushberry sour. I bought
48:08
Speaker 1: it kind of as a joke, thinking to myself, and
48:10
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I bought a backup beer for that night,
48:12
Speaker 1: like if we totally crash and burn on this one,
48:15
Speaker 1: we've got this one and we can drink it instead.
48:18
Speaker 1: But we liked it and it was good, and I
48:22
Speaker 1: think when we went there, when we went to lion Bridge,
48:26
Speaker 1: we both had it on tap.
48:28
Speaker 2: I remember that when we were there, it was the
48:30
Speaker 2: first time that we had it, but really, no, I
48:33
Speaker 2: think you're right. We did try it the first time
48:35
Speaker 2: we had it on that on the podcast. But yeah,
48:37
Speaker 2: I think that is one that that lion Bridge Crushberry Sour.
48:41
Speaker 2: That is one that I'm surprised that I like because
48:43
Speaker 2: it is not a beer in my wheelhouse at all.
48:46
Speaker 1: We've never had it on on an episode here in
48:51
Speaker 1: my house, which is where we've only ever recorded episodes
48:56
Speaker 1: other than the Brew Hop.
48:57
Speaker 2: Yea, so maybe you were like planning on a backup
48:59
Speaker 2: at the at the brew that.
49:01
Speaker 1: Could have been. That could have been. But anyways, we
49:05
Speaker 1: had it on the brew Hop. It was the first
49:07
Speaker 1: brew hop and it was towards the end. I think
49:09
Speaker 1: that was our second to last stop on the first
49:11
Speaker 1: brew Hop tour. We stopped there and then we went
49:13
Speaker 1: to uh House, Divided House, Divided in Ely. But yeah,
49:19
Speaker 1: that was one that was Honestly, that was one that
49:21
Speaker 1: I was going to put in the box for tonight
49:23
Speaker 1: for you.
49:23
Speaker 2: It wouldn't have been mad I. I don't know that
49:26
Speaker 2: I was expecting it, but I can tell you if
49:29
Speaker 2: I had tried it immediately, out have been like, oh, yeah,
49:32
Speaker 2: I know exactly what that one is.
49:34
Speaker 1: That was my first ship.
49:35
Speaker 2: I just took a sip.
49:36
Speaker 1: Yeah of this forty watt from Taitanka. That's a really
49:39
Speaker 1: good beer. Yeah, that's super good.
49:41
Speaker 2: Like a full flavor, you know, light beer.
49:43
Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting that, honestly, Like I was kind of
49:46
Speaker 1: just expecting like just like your normal light beer. But
49:50
Speaker 1: there's a ton of flavor there.
49:51
Speaker 2: It's great, I imagine somebody because the thing about breweries
49:56
Speaker 2: is like you always get the guy that you know,
49:58
Speaker 2: your buddy that only drinks you know, the bush Light
50:01
Speaker 2: or something like that, and you want to get them out,
50:04
Speaker 2: and so they go to the brewery and they're always
50:06
Speaker 2: the one that's like, all right, what do you have
50:08
Speaker 2: that's like bud Light? And most breweries they don't, that's
50:12
Speaker 2: not what they're there for. But this one, you're gonna
50:17
Speaker 2: try this. You're can say, what do you have that's
50:19
Speaker 2: like bud Light? And they're probably gonna recommend this one,
50:22
Speaker 2: and you're gonna be surprised at how much you like
50:24
Speaker 2: this because there's so much more flavored and so much better.
50:27
Speaker 2: It's kind of like the idea of when you when
50:29
Speaker 2: you try a chocolate bar. It's good, but then you
50:31
Speaker 2: sprinkle just a little bit of salt on it, and
50:33
Speaker 2: it's like ten times better. That's kind of this version.
50:36
Speaker 2: I would agree with that. Yeah, that's a good analogy.
50:38
Speaker 1: For sure.
50:38
Speaker 2: You're just getting that that high quality, you know, low
50:43
Speaker 2: batch produced, small batch brew. Yeah, it's it's just a
50:47
Speaker 2: really good beer. And I have yet to try the
50:49
Speaker 2: Manila Porter, but I will hear in a few minutes.
50:53
Speaker 1: Good stuff though, Oh yeah, for sure.
50:57
Speaker 2: Have I feel like we're running low on things to
50:59
Speaker 2: talk about this For the Vikings.
51:01
Speaker 1: There's not a ton out there. I mean, like, I
51:04
Speaker 1: guess we could like scour the internet, but.
51:07
Speaker 2: I think there's not much to talk about. There's a
51:10
Speaker 2: lot of Kyler Murray rumors, there's a lot of there's
51:14
Speaker 2: a lot of Kirk Kirk Cousins out there. I don't
51:17
Speaker 2: really I'm not excited about either of them. Sure, Kyler
51:20
Speaker 2: Murray is an electric quarterback when he plays really well.
51:24
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins has had his moments in his career. I
51:28
Speaker 2: just want JJ McCarthy to turn out like that's my
51:30
Speaker 2: ideal situation over either of those two. I just ultimately
51:35
Speaker 2: I want a Super Bowl. I want the Vikings to
51:37
Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl. And I feel like the best
51:39
Speaker 2: chance of that is if JJ McCarthy turns out and
51:44
Speaker 2: if you give him one more year and he turns
51:46
Speaker 2: out to be the next Anthony Richardson and nothing, then
51:50
Speaker 2: that's all the sooner that you can just move on
51:52
Speaker 2: and use a first round pick to try to get
51:54
Speaker 2: a quarterback again. I feel like KOs has earned himself
51:58
Speaker 2: at least one more first round pick quarterback if necessary.
52:03
Speaker 1: Would you, if you were Vikings fan, Vikings player, Vikings GM,
52:14
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know, would you give Koc one
52:17
Speaker 1: more opportunity to go out and get the guy at
52:21
Speaker 1: a first round quarterback type of pick, or would you
52:26
Speaker 1: try to salvage that pick for something else.
52:29
Speaker 2: Are you saying, like give like keep Koc and let
52:33
Speaker 2: him make that decision, or let him be a part
52:35
Speaker 2: of that decision, or move on from Koc too and
52:39
Speaker 2: then blow it all up. Is that what you're saying?
52:40
Speaker 2: Or I guess I don't know, maybe if that's.
52:43
Speaker 1: Kind of what I'm saying, or like, where do the
52:45
Speaker 1: Vikings pick this year? Like what sixteenth or seventy eighteenth? Eighteenth? Okay,
52:49
Speaker 1: I was in the ballpark.
52:53
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're picking a quarterback first round this year.
52:55
Speaker 1: But would you be a would you be an advocate
52:58
Speaker 1: for that they pick a back at eighteenth, don't even
53:02
Speaker 1: know who they get all in? Well, yeah, I mean
53:04
Speaker 1: that's an interesting question this year with a kind of
53:08
Speaker 1: a low stock QB draft class this year, or do
53:16
Speaker 1: you give him another season after this and hope that
53:19
Speaker 1: next year's draft he gets somebody.
53:22
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm hoping they give JJ McCarthy one more year.
53:26
Speaker 2: I've said a few times even tonight, like I'm hoping
53:29
Speaker 2: they just they put all the chips in, give him
53:33
Speaker 2: every opportunity, take away all of the excuses, and really
53:39
Speaker 2: see what he's got. Because up until becoming a Viking,
53:43
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy won everywhere he started. And yes, he was
53:47
Speaker 2: on elite teams like he literally played for IMG Academy,
53:51
Speaker 2: which is like the high school football team like, and
53:54
Speaker 2: he played for Michigan under Harbaugh, which you know, they
53:57
Speaker 2: had how many draft picks during the time. One was
54:01
Speaker 2: the first, you know, and the national championship in a
54:05
Speaker 2: time where JJ wasn't asked to throw for five hundred
54:07
Speaker 2: yards a game to win that national championship. So yes,
54:10
Speaker 2: I know he he had great teams around him. But
54:14
Speaker 2: great teams win Super Bowls. So the Vikings, if they're healthy,
54:18
Speaker 2: their offensive line on paper, you know, is one of
54:21
Speaker 2: the better ones there are out there. There's probably more
54:23
Speaker 2: questions at center than at quarterback. If JJ turns out
54:27
Speaker 2: to be good, I think you keep TJ. Hockinson if
54:31
Speaker 2: you can at a restructured contract. And I know I'm
54:34
Speaker 2: in the minority on that one. The receiving corps is
54:37
Speaker 2: pretty good, even if Jalen Naylor walks. You have the
54:40
Speaker 2: best receiver in the game of football. The defense with
54:44
Speaker 2: you know, another year Brian Flores, like, that's just another
54:47
Speaker 2: great defense. So I think all of those are great
54:50
Speaker 2: reasons to keep JJ with no excuses. And you know,
54:55
Speaker 2: if you remove all the other factors and the only
54:57
Speaker 2: answer is JJ's good, so the team's good, or JJ's
55:00
Speaker 2: bad so the team loses games, then you know, and
55:03
Speaker 2: then you can roll into a year from now twenty
55:06
Speaker 2: twenty seven either knowing, hey, JJ's good and we're building
55:09
Speaker 2: around him, or hey, now we need to find that
55:12
Speaker 2: quarterback again, rather than oh, let's sign Kirk Cousins for
55:16
Speaker 2: this year and have another question mark for a year
55:19
Speaker 2: from now. With JJ, you just never know.
55:21
Speaker 1: So are you saying it's more like it's outside of
55:26
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, Like success in twenty twenty six lies
55:32
Speaker 1: in everything else and not the quarterback position, and if
55:36
Speaker 1: if we can figure out the other pieces, twenty six
55:40
Speaker 1: will be a successful year.
55:43
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying the other pieces to me seem
55:45
Speaker 2: to be pretty good already. Running game needs some help,
55:49
Speaker 2: and yeah, O align with the center and stuff needs
55:51
Speaker 2: some help. But like, for the most part, the Vikings
55:53
Speaker 2: are a good team until you look at the quarterback position.
55:57
Speaker 2: So I'm saying the opposite. Like everything else, I'm feeling
56:00
Speaker 2: okay about, and through free agency in the draft, you're
56:04
Speaker 2: just boosting up a team that is pretty strong in
56:08
Speaker 2: most areas and could probably use some help in some areas,
56:11
Speaker 2: but should be able to be boosted up between free
56:14
Speaker 2: agency and the draft as long as the quarterback position
56:18
Speaker 2: can can figure things out.
56:20
Speaker 1: So J. J.
56:21
Speaker 2: McCarthy, I don't know his personal status, but I don't
56:24
Speaker 2: know if he's set to be having a child mid
56:26
Speaker 2: season this year. You know, not that that's a bad thing.
56:29
Speaker 2: We're both dads. We both advocate for that, but like,
56:32
Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna be much of an immediate
56:37
Speaker 2: focus of his this season, this coming twenty twenty six season,
56:41
Speaker 2: hopefully knock on skull Men's center would hopefully he's more
56:45
Speaker 2: healthy so we don't have a six game stretch where
56:48
Speaker 2: his ankle he has a high ankle sprain, which is
56:51
Speaker 2: apparently way worse of an injury than any of us
56:54
Speaker 2: could have imagined. You know, I just think all of
56:57
Speaker 2: the other factors should be taken care of, So let him,
57:00
Speaker 2: let JJ McCarthy show who he really is, and let
57:02
Speaker 2: the team be good because of him or really know, hey,
57:07
Speaker 2: he's the guy, or not be bad because of him.
57:09
Speaker 1: I think a sneaky candidate for the most underperforming part
57:15
Speaker 1: of the team could be the defense this next year.
57:18
Speaker 1: And obviously it's way too early, but like Brian Flores
57:23
Speaker 1: was almost gone and he's back, thankfully, we're happy about that.
57:30
Speaker 1: But the defense, you're gonna lose Harrison Smith probably probably, probably,
57:37
Speaker 1: probably sure, and I don't know how many other pieces
57:42
Speaker 1: of that defense will be gone for sure, But I
57:48
Speaker 1: don't know. I think with all the drama surrounding the defense,
57:51
Speaker 1: and with how heavily the Vikings relied on the defense
57:54
Speaker 1: this year, it might be one of those things where
57:57
Speaker 1: like me, and they really overperformed in twenty twenty five.
58:02
Speaker 1: They might underperform in twenty twenty six, And to be honest,
58:05
Speaker 1: they kind of underperformed in twenty twenty five compared to
58:08
Speaker 1: where they were in twenty twenty four. And that wouldn't
58:11
Speaker 1: be because of Brian Flores. It wouldn't be in spite
58:16
Speaker 1: of Brian Flores. I think it would just be like
58:20
Speaker 1: a natural consequence of well, we brought you back, and
58:25
Speaker 1: we also had to pay a bunch of other players
58:27
Speaker 1: to keep them, and you had to work with what
58:30
Speaker 1: you had, and you just didn't have the defense that
58:32
Speaker 1: you're used to having. You know, it wouldn't be his
58:35
Speaker 1: fault necessarily, but it also wouldn't be in spite of
58:37
Speaker 1: him either. It would just kind of be one of
58:40
Speaker 1: those like, well, this is just how it is and
58:44
Speaker 1: gotta deal with it. And we got to pay guys
58:46
Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball too. So I
58:49
Speaker 1: think the defense could be a sneaky candidate for an
58:53
Speaker 1: underwhelming unit and maybe one of the reasons why the
58:58
Speaker 1: Vikings aren't good in twenty six.
59:01
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if we look at the games in
59:03
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, where it was a terrible game. Yeah,
59:08
Speaker 2: the offense didn't play great, but it was the few
59:10
Speaker 2: times the defense didn't look good at all. So yeah,
59:14
Speaker 2: lots of interesting things to talk about. As more dominoes
59:17
Speaker 2: fall this offseason, We're going to see some more answers
59:21
Speaker 2: come when it comes to the Vikings Planet quarterback, whether
59:24
Speaker 2: we agree with it or not. We'll have free agency
59:27
Speaker 2: come up here, I think, really what three ish weeks
59:31
Speaker 2: from now. It's let me double check.
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Speaker 1: I don't remember the timeline exactly, but apparently we're coming
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Speaker 1: up on it for sure.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can't find the date. It's it's March,
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Speaker 2: I think. Is it literally March first, when the new
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Speaker 2: free the new league year starts. Yeah, okay, March eleventh,
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Speaker 2: Geminy or Jimini or whatever you want to call it,
59:59
Speaker 2: Jimmy is So we're less than a month away from that.
1:00:03
Speaker 2: The draft is late April early May, and then we
1:00:07
Speaker 2: have a few weeks of sports abyss where there's nothing
1:00:10
Speaker 2: to talk about. We'll have to really maybe we'll really
1:00:13
Speaker 2: lean deep into the Saint Louis BattleHawks during that time.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, plenty of things to talk about and speculate about.
1:00:21
Speaker 2: We'll definitely have front of the show forrest on here
1:00:23
Speaker 2: in a few weeks. We need to get front of
1:00:26
Speaker 2: the show Dustin back on the show. I'd like to
1:00:30
Speaker 2: jump back on with Brevin on Vikes now again here
1:00:33
Speaker 2: sometime soon. Go check out that episode where I jumped
1:00:35
Speaker 2: on with him a few weeks ago. That was a
1:00:38
Speaker 2: lot of fun. But yeah, we've got a fun offseason
1:00:41
Speaker 2: to look forward to. And not to mention, we have
1:00:43
Speaker 2: a lot of purple punishments that need we need to
1:00:46
Speaker 2: fill that slot. We need to get that wheel of
1:00:48
Speaker 2: purple punishments filled up with good ideas.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, we do.
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Speaker 2: Listeners if you have some good ideas for that. Before
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Speaker 2: we close it out, I did open up this vanilla
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Speaker 2: porter from Tatanka. Officially it's called the Klondike Vanilla Porter. Taytaka.
1:01:06
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for providing these beers. Excuse me,
1:01:12
Speaker 2: I've got a lot of burps here. This vanilla porter,
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Speaker 2: I can definitively say, is better than the one that
1:01:18
Speaker 2: we tried years ago from a very popular Wisconsin based
1:01:24
Speaker 2: UH brewery that starts with a letter L one.
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Speaker 1: This one is You're not going to name it because
1:01:32
Speaker 1: we know from last week that you don't like anything
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Speaker 1: from Wisconsin, and you apparently love Wisconsin. No, I like
1:01:38
Speaker 1: certain aspects of Wisconsin.
1:01:40
Speaker 2: Did you see that we may have been the pill
1:01:44
Speaker 2: of death for the other fast food restaurant that you mentioned. No,
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Speaker 2: wed These announced that they're closing like one hundred stores,
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Speaker 2: So good job at Wow.
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Speaker 1: I believe I prefaced everything with not to on Wendy's.
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Speaker 2: But all right, well then I need you to say
1:02:02
Speaker 2: the words not to crap on Culver's right, No, no,
1:02:06
Speaker 2: dang it, but yeah, rest in peace Wendy's. They're probably
1:02:11
Speaker 2: gonna be just fine, but they're closing a lot of.
1:02:13
Speaker 1: Junior bacon cheezburger is actually pretty good. I'll I'll eat that.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'll out.
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Speaker 1: That's one.
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Speaker 2: But again with this Klondike Vanilla Porter, it's fantastic. Of
1:02:23
Speaker 2: the two, I think my favorite is the is the
1:02:27
Speaker 2: the forty watt American Lagger, but this Vanilla Porter is
1:02:32
Speaker 2: very close second. So and thank you again, Titanka.
1:02:35
Speaker 1: And that's kind of interesting because I like the forty
1:02:38
Speaker 1: watt for sure, but this Klondike Vanilla Porter was spot on. Yeah,
1:02:42
Speaker 1: I loved it, and I would have a couple more
1:02:45
Speaker 1: of those if I could. Well, I think the moral
1:02:47
Speaker 1: of the story is that Taitanka just doesn't miss and
1:02:52
Speaker 1: I can't wait to have more of their beers.
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Speaker 2: Hint hint, nudge nudge.
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Speaker 1: We even we even got these sweet coasters from taik Tanka,
1:03:00
Speaker 1: like they're just they're great. And they sent these uh yeah,
1:03:04
Speaker 1: we got these little bison, little little stretch balls.
1:03:07
Speaker 2: Yeah they're they're bison. They've got the titank a little bit.
1:03:10
Speaker 2: They're pretty cool. They hooked us up. I was, I
1:03:12
Speaker 2: was pretty pleased about all that.
1:03:14
Speaker 1: Thanks Titanka. We appreciate it all.
1:03:17
Speaker 2: Right, ev I think we have squeezed every bit of
1:03:20
Speaker 2: juice out of this episode we can get. Yeah, we
1:03:24
Speaker 2: really got it all out there. I had a lot
1:03:26
Speaker 2: of fun with the game. I can't wait to lead
1:03:28
Speaker 2: you in that game here maybe next episode, maybe sometime soon.
1:03:33
Speaker 2: Where can people reach out to us if they want
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Speaker 2: to keep the conversation going, Just type.
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Speaker 1: Us in on Google. I think that's the best way
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Speaker 1: You can email us. We've got a few things that
1:03:48
Speaker 1: will send your way, and even if we run out
1:03:51
Speaker 1: of those things, we'll get some more and we'll send
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Speaker 1: are there. We're here, We're not going anywhere. We love
1:04:12
Speaker 1: interacting with people and talking about the vikings and drinking
1:04:15
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Speaker 2: So yeah, and if I do want to plug merch too,
1:04:19
Speaker 2: we kind of restart our Tea Public store. So if
1:04:22
Speaker 2: you go to tea Public dot com and just search
1:04:24
Speaker 2: the skole Hop, you will find a few designs that
1:04:27
Speaker 2: we've got up there front of the show Blue. I
1:04:31
Speaker 2: think when we get our badass food art piece in,
1:04:35
Speaker 2: we may have something special for you. If you're you're
1:04:40
Speaker 2: watching on YouTube, you might have seen me me polling
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Speaker 2: at it. So yeah, a lot of a lot of
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Speaker 2: good stuff out there, and really just like and subscribe
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Speaker 2: comment wherever you are. We like to know where you are,
1:04:51
Speaker 2: so Evan, We've had a lot of great beers on
1:04:54
Speaker 2: this episode, maybe more than we then get you more
1:04:58
Speaker 2: individual beers other than the brew hops, because those were
1:05:01
Speaker 2: like twelve beer episodes beer episodes, So yeah, I really
1:05:06
Speaker 2: enjoyed it. We'll see if we can get the glass, aluminum,
1:05:09
Speaker 2: clean going, but I don't know, even without that best
1:05:13
Speaker 2: episode yet.
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