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Inside The Tape With Greg Cosell: "The Offense Was Terrible Versus Pressure" · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to Inside the Tape with Greg Cosell on
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Speaker 1: Inside the Birds. I'm Jeff Mosher alongside the man who
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Speaker 1: breaks down the tape, Greg Cosell. We've already broken down
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Speaker 1: the Eagles defense in their twenty four to fifteen loss
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Speaker 1: to the Bears on Black Friday, and now Greg, it
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Speaker 1: is becoming a weekly ritual that we pick on the
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Speaker 1: Eagles offense, which only scored fifteen points once again, couldn't
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Speaker 1: run the ball very windy night, had trouble passing the ball.
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Speaker 1: So if I ask you for your big picture standout
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Speaker 1: from this game that might be different than the first
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Speaker 1: twelve weeks, it would be well, yeah, I added that
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Speaker 1: caveat in there, that might be different.
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Speaker 2: You know, when you're watching the game, you don't necessarily
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Speaker 2: think about a number of plays. I mean, honest, the
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Speaker 2: team seems like they have the ball all the time.
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Speaker 2: Then you think, oh, gee, they're running a lot of plays.
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Speaker 2: But you know, watching the game, I wasn't thinking, oh,
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Speaker 2: the Eagles don't seem to have the ball. And then
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Speaker 2: you know, halftime comes and I actually looked at this,
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Speaker 2: you know, statuet on my iPad, and so they ran
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Speaker 2: seventeen plays and I'm like, that's kind of unheard of
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Speaker 2: in an NFL game to run seventeen plays in a
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Speaker 2: half and they gained eighty three yards. In one of
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Speaker 2: those plays gained thirty yards, So sixteen plays gained fifty
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Speaker 2: three yards, which you know, you almost don't know what
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Speaker 2: to make of that, And I'm just being honest. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's but you know, when we spoke about
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Speaker 2: the defense, and you know, I made the general point
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Speaker 2: that you know, then you get into the third quarter
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Speaker 2: and it's ten to nine after the Brown touchdown, and
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Speaker 2: in what ways based on this season I'm not going
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Speaker 2: back last year or twenty twenty two or you know,
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Speaker 2: based on this season, in what way is that game
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Speaker 2: different than a lot of Eagles games this year.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's it's a fair point. How about this.
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Speaker 1: I mean, one thing that's interesting that I think we
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Speaker 1: can discuss from this game from what you observed in
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Speaker 1: your notes. You know, it was pretty early in the season,
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Speaker 1: five six weeks in where we were saying, hey, the
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Speaker 1: Eagles offense passing offense is really thriving against the blitz,
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Speaker 1: against man coverage, but struggling in zone. Yeah, and teams
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Speaker 1: were blitzing them and then backing off. Remember the Rams
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Speaker 1: did that, the Bucks did that and had far more
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Speaker 1: success backing off. But every season, you know, teams changed,
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Speaker 1: they evolved, they regress, and in this game, as you
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Speaker 1: point out, the Bear strategy was to do what against
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Speaker 1: the Eagles.
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Speaker 2: The Bears had no issues playing man to man. They
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Speaker 2: did spy on Hurts, which you almost have to do
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Speaker 2: if you're going to play a high dose of man,
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Speaker 2: but they had no problem playing man, and they blitzed
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Speaker 2: a lot. They rushed five or more on fifteen of Hurts.
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Speaker 2: I forget how many dropbacks he had. I meant to
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Speaker 2: put that in my notes, but but and Hurts was
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Speaker 2: and the fen was terrible versus pressure five for fifteen
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Speaker 2: for fifty yards with the interception. So they struggled all
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Speaker 2: game versus the Bears pressure concepts. I mean it was bad.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was thirty four dropbacks. I think
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Speaker 1: the four run right now, thirty five or thirty six,
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Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, they came after him. And then also
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Speaker 1: you observed.
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Speaker 2: You had thirty two dropbacks.
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Speaker 1: Thirty two drop backs. Okay, you also observed that the
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Speaker 1: Bears defensive structure was mostly subpacked. What we would call
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Speaker 1: sub package.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that they played pretty much the entire well,
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Speaker 2: they didn't play one snap of bass. They played twenty.
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Speaker 2: Their Their base defense essentially was big nickel with Garner Johnson,
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Speaker 2: our old friend Garner Johnson the third safety with Bayern
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Speaker 2: and Brisker. Bemiga and Jackson were the linebackers. Jackson played
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Speaker 2: every single snap, you know, because he didn't because Aga
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Speaker 2: did not play in the dime. Jackson did. Johnson was
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Speaker 2: back at outside corner for the Bears. Right was the
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Speaker 2: other corner, and Gordon was backing. He's a very good
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Speaker 2: slot corner.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I imagine this was both strategic but also a
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Speaker 1: function of not having TJ. Edwards, Tremaine Edmitt. You know,
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Speaker 1: they were down like their best linebackers, but they felt
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Speaker 1: that the best way to go against the Eagles was
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Speaker 1: to put a lot of pressure, created pressure and then
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Speaker 1: play man in nickel and dime, which is I think really,
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Speaker 1: I feel like if this were we three, that would
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Speaker 1: have never worked.
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Speaker 2: Just right, you could be right, But I mean, as
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Speaker 2: I was watching the tape, and uh, you know, those
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Speaker 2: things stand out, you know when you see it for
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Speaker 2: a couple of plays, you don't you know, you don't say, oh,
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Speaker 2: this is what they're doing. You have to see enough
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Speaker 2: of it. But it was evident as I you know,
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Speaker 2: got in mid to late second quarter, that the Bears
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Speaker 2: were aggressive with pressure. They were attacking Eagles passing game
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Speaker 2: with multiple blitz concepts. They featured Jackson as a spy
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Speaker 2: on third down. You know, as I said, they had
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Speaker 2: no issue playing man coverage. You know this, they were
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Speaker 2: an aggressive defense against the Eagles.
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Speaker 1: All right, Well that is now a change, as it's
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Speaker 1: okay to be aggressive against Eagles again. The running game
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Speaker 1: continues to you know, I thought that there were a
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Speaker 1: couple of runs Greg where Barkley had a little space,
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Speaker 1: made a little yards. They obviously were moving the ball
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Speaker 1: a little bit better until the Tush push turnover. There
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Speaker 1: just just couldn't break one. I know, it's a good
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Speaker 1: Bears defense, but again, no line, the linebackers, they're all backups.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's it's been odd this year.
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Speaker 2: They look the run game has not broken one, or
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Speaker 2: Barkley certainly hasn't, and the pass game hasn't been good
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Speaker 2: enough to sort of pick up the slack. So it's
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Speaker 2: been you know, the explosive play element to their offense,
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Speaker 2: with very few exceptions, does not really exist this year
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Speaker 2: on any you know, consistent basis.
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Speaker 1: Right, all right, well, let's uh, let's take a little
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Speaker 1: bit of a look at what the Bears did defensively. Now,
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Speaker 1: third down has been a topic of discussion on this
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Speaker 1: show the market. I mean, if you're following the Eagles,
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Speaker 1: you know they've been very, very bed on third down
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Speaker 1: and have the most three and now. So this is
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Speaker 1: the first quarter. I think it's the first third down's
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Speaker 1: third and five, Greg, and I believe what happens is
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Speaker 1: there's a stunt inside. Is this the overloaded front front?
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Speaker 2: So this is the first Is this the first third down?
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Speaker 2: Third and five?
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Speaker 1: Yes? It is.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So this is where the Bears lined up in
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Speaker 2: there loaded front linebacker Jackson's on the ball opposite the
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Speaker 2: load they rushed for with a t stunt from the
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Speaker 2: load side. Sun you know, Hurts saw the stunt. And again,
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit here and say he shouldn't have moved,
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Speaker 2: you know, because you don't know what's in his head,
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Speaker 2: and maybe you know he's he's there feeling it. So
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Speaker 2: I don't want to say he should or shouldn't have moved,
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Speaker 2: but he ends up moving. And because you're gonna see
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Speaker 2: the stunts of t stunt from the load side with
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Speaker 2: Booker coming, you know Hurts is looking to that side anyway,
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Speaker 2: so he probably both sees it and feels it.
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Speaker 1: Right. Who is that breaking to the outside? Uh? Is
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Speaker 1: that Goddard?
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Speaker 2: I believe that's Goddard? Is that a viable throw the
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Speaker 2: position of the defensive player? But you know, I don't know. Again,
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit here and say what the read,
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Speaker 2: what the reed is. But you know, if he's looking left, Okay,
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Speaker 2: let's say he's looking left and it's muddied, which you
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Speaker 2: might see it as such, he's got is that Smith
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Speaker 2: just basically then sitting over the ball wide open?
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Speaker 1: If you run it a little FROs the middle, yes, you're.
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Speaker 2: Gonna make like Again, I don't want to sit here
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Speaker 2: and not Jalen Hurts because you know, I don't know
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Speaker 2: what he's feeling. But I think that that throw can
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Speaker 2: be made. Now again, I've not dropped back and been
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Speaker 2: in that situation, so someone can say you're crazy, but
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Speaker 2: I think you know, I think that to me, he
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Speaker 2: probably left tatterly.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, and when I froze it. I thought, you know,
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Speaker 1: right now he's seeing the back of the cornerbacks jersey
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Speaker 1: while Goddard is breaking open.
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Speaker 2: So I but again, we don't know if he throws that,
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Speaker 2: keep going, keep playing this further. See, I don't know
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Speaker 2: if that's part theoretically of the read. Maybe he's reading
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Speaker 2: a J. Brown and he was hoping to hit him,
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Speaker 2: you know, on a bender. But you know, I don't
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Speaker 2: know that. You know, we don't know how they put
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Speaker 2: that play together. Maybe Goddard was meant to expand the
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Speaker 2: defender and not be you know, part of the read.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to sit here and say for sure
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Speaker 2: that that ball should have been you know, could have
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Speaker 2: should have been thrown to Goddard. I don't know. I
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Speaker 2: do know that when you run a shit route in
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Speaker 2: front of the quarterback, and every team has that in
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Speaker 2: their playbook, Jeff As you well know that that's a viable.
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Speaker 1: Throw, right, And this is the the other angle of it.
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Speaker 1: He's looking. Yeah, you know, I wondered how much he
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Speaker 1: felt the presence of that stunt.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I think he felt it, and
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Speaker 2: I can't blame him, you know. And then you know,
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Speaker 2: obviously he runs down, throws it away and it's third down,
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Speaker 2: so they have to punt.
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Speaker 1: All right, Now, here's a nice play by the Eagles
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Speaker 1: offense er. Right, how do you what do you like
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Speaker 1: about the play design here?
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Speaker 2: Well, this is their staple play, and I think that
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Speaker 2: the way the Bears reacted to it, Hurts made a
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Speaker 2: really good play here, because this is the staple play
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Speaker 2: of getting the ball in the flat to Goddard. But uh,
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Speaker 2: if you run it, you know, the Bears probably knew
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Speaker 2: this because they run in seemingly five times every week.
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Speaker 2: And you can see who is that? Is that Byed
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Speaker 2: or is that yes, that's fired the fire He reacts
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Speaker 2: to Goddard and actually the corner and I think that's Johnson, right.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry, that's Johnson.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, but Byard is the one who reacted to
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Speaker 2: Goddard to you know initially, well, yeah, Johnson corner in
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Speaker 2: the backfield. So therefore Smith was able to get on
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Speaker 2: top of him. And yep, and I think that, you
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Speaker 2: know it, Hurts does a really nice job here.
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Speaker 1: And that's the first thing I thought, is that they
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Speaker 1: run this play to Goddard so much. I almost don't
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Speaker 1: blame Johnson. For thinking that that ball was definitely going
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Speaker 1: to him.
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Speaker 2: Now, I wonder, quite frankly, if this was a counter
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Speaker 2: off their staple, because look at look at what Smith did.
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Speaker 2: Smith clearly showed as if he might block, and then
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Speaker 2: he ran around as if he could be getting the ball.
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Speaker 2: So it's possible they ran this as a counter off
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Speaker 2: their staple.
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Speaker 1: I would probably be thinking the way he almost got
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Speaker 1: himself into a pseudo blocking position and then.
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Speaker 2: Turned then immediately look back as if there was a
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Speaker 2: very good chance I'm getting the ball, So this could
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Speaker 2: well be a counter off their staple.
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Speaker 1: Hey, what do you know the Eagles offensive coaching staff,
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Speaker 1: for all the you know, for all the criticism, to
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Speaker 1: get worked off of a play that they've used before
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Speaker 1: and extended it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was a really good play.
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Speaker 1: for almost being like a mentor to me now, because
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Speaker 1: as soon as I watched it and saw what the
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Speaker 1: Bears are doing, I knew that there was no way
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Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard could get this ball, even though he was
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Speaker 1: wide open.
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Speaker 2: Yeah the replay, Yeah right, people, and I'm being honest.
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Speaker 2: For people who don't know ball, you know they're gonna
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Speaker 2: get on them. Goddard's irrelevant on this play because first
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Speaker 2: of all, they're playing four across, they're playing with a
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Speaker 2: quarter's look, and actually they're kind of right now. You
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Speaker 2: think they could have a problem because the Eagles are
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Speaker 2: an empty so they five receivers and they only have
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Speaker 2: four across, so there's gonna be a problem here, and
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Speaker 2: they're all off, so there's no press element here. So
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Speaker 2: right now, with basically they have one, two, three, four, five,
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Speaker 2: and then you could even look at the two outside
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Speaker 2: guys as potential rushers, so you could think, right now,
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Speaker 2: there's seven potential rushers because of the way they're playing,
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Speaker 2: and you don't know how many are coming, which ones
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Speaker 2: are coming. So right now, as a quarterback, the first
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Speaker 2: thing you're thinking is there could be a rusher. That's
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Speaker 2: that's a free hitter. So I'm gonna have to get
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Speaker 2: the ball. I'm gonna have to pick a side, and
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to make a throw. This is not
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Speaker 2: a let's drop back and read the coverage kind of play, right, so.
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Speaker 1: Three step dropping it's got to be out to the game.
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Speaker 2: By the way, the side he picks has a natural
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Speaker 2: pick element to it, so he actually picked the right side. Yep,
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Speaker 2: the left side being the right side.
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Speaker 1: The left side is the correct side. The only thing
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Speaker 1: that's wrong is throw.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Goddard is not relevant on this play, not
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Speaker 2: at all. And it's it's and you know when you
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Speaker 2: see this, you you know you immediately think. But you
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Speaker 2: know he's thinking, I got to get rid of the ball.
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Speaker 2: You know there's gonna be pressure. I you know, this
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Speaker 2: is not like, let's scan the defense. I don't even think.
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Speaker 1: I've seen it suggested like peripheral vision. He could maybe
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Speaker 1: notice the coverage bust, but I don't know how you're
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Speaker 1: supposed to you immediately.
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Speaker 2: It's a risk that's total bs. You know, when you
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Speaker 2: get pressure like this and it's a quick, three step
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Speaker 2: timing drop and you know you've got a stack on
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Speaker 2: the other side with a natural pick element, that's where
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Speaker 2: the ball's going. He just he threw it behind him
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Speaker 2: because if he throws it where it should be, could
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Speaker 2: it be a touchdown? Maybe it's certainly a first down
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Speaker 2: and Smith probably gets to the ten at the least.
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Speaker 2: But it's just a bad throw. I mean, but there's
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Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with the read at all. Goddard is
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Speaker 2: not relevant here, correct.
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Speaker 1: That was a big point of contention for the last
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Speaker 1: few days for a lot of people and a lot
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Speaker 1: of people on social media who are think they're experts
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Speaker 1: and think that there's some way you could see God
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Speaker 1: it there. It's would have been magical if he had
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Speaker 1: seen that.
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Speaker 2: You know. It reminded me of the play against the
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Speaker 2: Giants the first time they played on the Thursday night
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Speaker 2: game when Cordell Flott made the interception versus zero coverage
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Speaker 2: and everybody was like, well, he should have thrown to
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Speaker 2: A J. Brown And AJ Brown was running a route
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Speaker 2: that took like three seconds for set you know, to
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Speaker 2: get to and it was zero coverage and you can't
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Speaker 2: wait for him to get He wasn't even he hadn't
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Speaker 2: even begun to look at Jalen Hurts on that play
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Speaker 2: when Jalen had to throw the ball right. So, I mean,
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Speaker 2: you know, it's always easy after the fact to say, guys, open,
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Speaker 2: that's easy through that.
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Speaker 1: All right. Now we've got a third and nine, I
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Speaker 1: think on the opening drive of the third quarter. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: first drive of the third quarter. It's gonna go to
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Speaker 1: god Ar incomplete. What did the Bears do here to
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Speaker 1: cause some disruption? So?
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Speaker 2: Wait, this was the this was the first third and
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Speaker 2: nine third quarter? Okay, yeah, yeah, so this was uh,
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Speaker 2: this time they went zero with both Gordon from the
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Speaker 2: boundary and Gardner Johnson from the field blitzing. Gardner Johnson
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Speaker 2: was a free hitter here, so what happened is he
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Speaker 2: forced a hurry.
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Speaker 1: Through yep, and there you see everybody coming right.
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Speaker 2: You know. Again, it's a very similar look to the
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Speaker 2: play we just looked at where they had four across.
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Speaker 1: So if it's a zero, should hurt see the same philosophy,
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Speaker 1: you got three step and get rid of it.
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Speaker 2: And well he's got Brown looking right now, Brown, what I'm.
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Speaker 1: Wondering, Like, well, I was surprised the ball wasn't right
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Speaker 1: to Brown over the middle here.
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Speaker 2: That's where should have gone. This place should have gone
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Speaker 2: to because Brown recognized it and immediately looked at at Jalen. See,
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Speaker 2: this is a time where Brown looked right away. You
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Speaker 2: can see that look he's looking keep going right there,
17:55
Speaker 2: he's looking. Now, he's looking.
17:56
Speaker 1: Now, he's looking.
17:58
Speaker 2: He's waiting and where.
18:00
Speaker 1: That's there's time. The foot is planted. He can he
18:02
Speaker 1: can do it. I know he's backing up a little bit,
18:04
Speaker 1: but he's made the throw before. He didn't even go
18:08
Speaker 1: to He didn't even the fact that he didn't go
18:09
Speaker 1: to a j any he tried to make a tougher throw.
18:12
Speaker 2: Right that balls should have gone to Brown. Yeah, but
18:15
Speaker 2: I mean this is symptomatic and representative, Jeff of what
18:17
Speaker 2: we started this whole defensive segment with that. The Bears
18:20
Speaker 2: had no problem with pressure. I mean they were coming, they.
18:23
Speaker 1: Were It's like they really they felt if they sped
18:26
Speaker 1: up his clock, he would make bad decisions.
18:28
Speaker 2: Yep.
18:29
Speaker 1: And then this this time he did, I swear, Greg
18:31
Speaker 1: this is what is so enigmatic about analyzing hurts because
18:35
Speaker 1: there are other teams that have felt the same way,
18:37
Speaker 1: and he has burned them by hitting it bing bang
18:40
Speaker 1: boom where he's supposed to be because he used to
18:42
Speaker 1: be great against the Blitz.
18:43
Speaker 2: But well, there's no question, there's no question that. You
18:46
Speaker 2: know again, I can't speak to jay en Hurtz confidence.
18:49
Speaker 2: I never watched press conferences because the game was Friday.
18:52
Speaker 2: I chose to watch his after the game, and by
18:54
Speaker 2: the way I thought he handled himself beautifully. He took responsibility.
18:58
Speaker 2: For you do watch the press conferences.
19:00
Speaker 1: I saw. I didn't see it live, but I saw
19:02
Speaker 1: snippets of it.
19:03
Speaker 2: I watched. I watched him speak for whatever, you know,
19:05
Speaker 2: the twelve minutes he spoke, I thought he was phenomenal.
19:08
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he took responsibility. He didn't put
19:11
Speaker 2: it on anybody else. He didn't act like you know.
19:14
Speaker 2: It was it was I, I gotta do this, I
19:16
Speaker 2: gotta be better. I got you know, And which is
19:18
Speaker 2: always the way. I learned that from Troy Aikman. When
19:20
Speaker 2: the team wins, it's we. When the team loses, it's
19:23
Speaker 2: I gotta play better. That if you're a quarterback, that
19:25
Speaker 2: has to be the way it is right, and I
19:27
Speaker 2: thought he handled himself absolutely beautifully.
19:30
Speaker 1: Yeah. So here's a third and six. I think it's
19:33
Speaker 1: sort of the similar where there's a crosser. This is
19:37
Speaker 1: something that we have talked about with Jollen in the past,
19:39
Speaker 1: is that sometimes he hits it, but then he hits
19:41
Speaker 1: it too late. It's supposed to be between the numbers,
19:44
Speaker 1: not outside the number.
19:45
Speaker 2: Which way is this now? Are we in the third quarter?
19:47
Speaker 1: Third and six, fourth quarter?
19:50
Speaker 2: Third and six, fourth quarter?
19:52
Speaker 1: Yep?
19:53
Speaker 2: I believe it's the Oh so this is this the
19:55
Speaker 2: one where he broke down in the pocket with no pressure,
19:58
Speaker 2: not getting the ball to open brown with it, timing
20:00
Speaker 2: and structure, Yeah, got them late, yes, yeah.
20:04
Speaker 1: Yes, so I think it was there was no pressure
20:07
Speaker 1: on this, right, they looked the show pressure.
20:09
Speaker 2: There's no pressure.
20:10
Speaker 1: Here, right, they dropped. It was only a four man
20:13
Speaker 1: rush right there.
20:14
Speaker 2: You got to hit him now, yep, or you got
20:18
Speaker 2: to hit him now. So he moves for no reason, right,
20:22
Speaker 2: you know this this play he moved for no reason. Yeah, yeah,
20:26
Speaker 2: for whatever reason. Then he hits him late.
20:28
Speaker 1: Yep.
20:30
Speaker 2: And by the way, if he stayed in the pocket,
20:33
Speaker 2: who knows, he might have had the inbreaker behind all
20:36
Speaker 2: this too. To uh that be if you go back
20:41
Speaker 2: to the sideline, you'll see.
20:42
Speaker 1: Yeah. But just to give people even who are watching.
20:45
Speaker 2: I mean there's no pressure. This is not pressure.
20:47
Speaker 1: No. And then Brown's right there, I mean, bam, right
20:50
Speaker 1: there between the numbers.
20:51
Speaker 2: It's person you can hit Brown or if you stay
20:53
Speaker 2: in the pocket, chef, if you go back to the.
20:54
Speaker 1: Sideline, yep, I'll do it.
20:58
Speaker 2: He mightn't be in a position to hit the breaker
21:00
Speaker 2: from number one to the field. Look keep going mmm
21:08
Speaker 2: oh wow, yeah, because this is a very common you
21:12
Speaker 2: know what, there's a very common route concept. You know
21:14
Speaker 2: what this is. It's it's mesh with double dig behind it.
21:18
Speaker 2: It's everybody, the Patriots run this all the time. It's
21:22
Speaker 2: mesh with with double dig behind it. That's what this
21:24
Speaker 2: play is. Yep.
21:25
Speaker 1: There it is both mesh with double dig and that's Dotson.
21:29
Speaker 1: Dotson is the number one, and he's right.
21:31
Speaker 2: You may, you may because because the mesh gives you
21:34
Speaker 2: a high low element. So if you have time in
21:36
Speaker 2: the pocket, look at that underneath the fender leaning up
21:40
Speaker 2: to react to Brown, and then you get the dig
21:42
Speaker 2: right behind it. It's the right double dig you know, mesh. Yep.
21:47
Speaker 2: But and you can see clearly from this saying, oh,
21:49
Speaker 2: there's no reason to break down.
21:51
Speaker 1: No, no, that was good, all right, the two point conversion.
21:55
Speaker 1: I thought he had an opportunity here. Greg agree.
21:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to remember this one.
22:00
Speaker 1: It's kind of a right side rub. I mean it
22:02
Speaker 1: looks like brown.
22:03
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, he had Brown here thrown to Brown. Yeah.
22:07
Speaker 2: This is a classic play in the in the low
22:09
Speaker 2: red zone again, another play that's in everybody's playbook. You
22:12
Speaker 2: get the natural pick element. You know they're going to
22:14
Speaker 2: be playing man. No one's playing zone here from the
22:16
Speaker 2: two yard line, so you got to throw this ball
22:19
Speaker 2: aj Brown.
22:19
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you got that pick.
22:21
Speaker 2: That's the play. I mean it's wide open. Yep, that's
22:25
Speaker 2: the play.
22:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Dotson is picking the outside defender, got it
22:28
Speaker 1: is carrying the Yeah, I guess yeah, that's right there.
22:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, that that's the play. You're now, I
22:34
Speaker 2: remember it as soon as you said it. Yeah, you
22:36
Speaker 2: got you gotta make that throat.
22:38
Speaker 1: Yeah. And by the way, would there be a show
22:40
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22:42
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Speaker 2: You know, you'd have to You'd have to be doing
25:03
Speaker 2: that right away. You can't do that late, right, Yeah.
25:07
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean that that is a play where you're
25:09
Speaker 1: supposed to get rid of the ball quickly anyway.
25:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just thought, but you have to go
25:13
Speaker 2: to god or like right away. You can't look to
25:16
Speaker 2: Brown then come back to Goddard. Okay, then it's too late.
25:20
Speaker 1: Got it all right? But that was a missed opportunity obviously.
25:23
Speaker 1: That changed the dynamics of the game and caused a
25:26
Speaker 1: huge argument for everybody should have gone for itou have not.
25:29
Speaker 2: H was funny, just just as a thought, and people
25:32
Speaker 2: can disagree. And I'm not saying I'm right or wrong.
25:34
Speaker 2: It's just tough stuff I think about. I'm sure you
25:36
Speaker 2: think about and fans think about. The game has changed
25:39
Speaker 2: to where going forward and forth down and everything seems
25:42
Speaker 2: to be kind of what is normal now. But I
25:45
Speaker 2: remember having a guy had a chance years ago to
25:49
Speaker 2: go down when Bill Parcells was the GM with the Dolphins,
25:52
Speaker 2: and I had a chance to go down and spend
25:54
Speaker 2: like three hours with him and just talk Paul and
25:57
Speaker 2: you know, he said something, and I've heard him say
25:59
Speaker 2: it many times, you know, when he was involved. Obviously
26:02
Speaker 2: you don't hear a lot of quotes from Bill Parcells
26:04
Speaker 2: now you know he's not involved, but he always said
26:06
Speaker 2: that his philosophy was you want to keep your team
26:09
Speaker 2: in the game as long as possible, and that stuck
26:13
Speaker 2: with me. Now again, people can just I'm not saying
26:15
Speaker 2: I'm right or wrong. This is a Hall of Fame
26:17
Speaker 2: coach who did pretty well in the league. And I
26:20
Speaker 2: know the games, you know, changed and people see, you know,
26:23
Speaker 2: have a different worldview of the game. But you know,
26:26
Speaker 2: when I was watching the Lions game on Thanksgiving and
26:30
Speaker 2: you know it was they scored or no, no, they
26:33
Speaker 2: were down ten thirty one to twenty one with about
26:35
Speaker 2: ten minutes to go. I don't know if you got
26:36
Speaker 2: a chance to see that game.
26:38
Speaker 1: I did. I did see the da It.
26:39
Speaker 2: Was fourth down and they were fourth and three and
26:42
Speaker 2: they were clearly in field goal range and they went
26:44
Speaker 2: for it and that's the play where it got through
26:46
Speaker 2: just a little bit behind Jamison Williams and it was
26:48
Speaker 2: incomplete on fourth and three. You know, obviously not a
26:52
Speaker 2: great throw. If it was a great throw, they get
26:53
Speaker 2: the first down, but they didn't get it, and so
26:55
Speaker 2: now they're down ten, which to me changes everything about
27:00
Speaker 2: the Packers' offense when they get the ball. So you know,
27:04
Speaker 2: to me, again, I'm not saying I'm right or wrong.
27:07
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, there's ten minutes to go, there's not
27:09
Speaker 2: three minutes to go. You kick the field goal, you
27:12
Speaker 2: make it a one score game. Now the Packers offense
27:15
Speaker 2: has a whole different approach to how they have to play.
27:19
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think that I respect both
27:22
Speaker 1: the analytics argument and the non analytics argument, but I
27:25
Speaker 1: do one side. The analytics side doesn't take into account
27:30
Speaker 1: how the opponent might react to being down one score
27:33
Speaker 1: instead of two, and what that means about their how
27:36
Speaker 1: tense they get, how they might make a mistake, how
27:39
Speaker 1: they might feel a lead slipping away. I think all
27:41
Speaker 1: that stuff it's fair to bring up in the argument
27:46
Speaker 1: for just taking the point there.
27:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's no I'm not saying I'm right. There's
27:51
Speaker 2: probably no right or wrong. Well, of course, the analytics people,
27:54
Speaker 2: because they view it as a mathematical equation to see
27:57
Speaker 2: it as being a right and a wrong, And that's fine,
28:00
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not I'm not debating then that's not
28:02
Speaker 2: the point of what I'm saying. But the game has
28:05
Speaker 2: clearly changed where you know all this stuff, you know,
28:07
Speaker 2: you go for it all the time on fourth down,
28:09
Speaker 2: you got to go for two point conversions, you know
28:10
Speaker 2: what I mean, you know, but it just there is
28:14
Speaker 2: a human element to the game as well.
28:16
Speaker 1: And I agreed, it's unfortunately we don't know when it plays.
28:19
Speaker 1: And because I do think the analytics part has helped
28:21
Speaker 1: the game. I think teams go for on fourth down
28:25
Speaker 1: a lot of times now when they wouldn't have in
28:27
Speaker 1: the past, and it benefits them and they should have
28:29
Speaker 1: gone for fourth down because you put so much faith
28:32
Speaker 1: and no question the team and that motivates them. So
28:34
Speaker 1: that's why I hate when people are so split, because
28:37
Speaker 1: I believe that there are merits to both and downsides
28:39
Speaker 1: to both. Right, there's no.
28:42
Speaker 2: I still kind of feel deep down that the Bill
28:45
Speaker 2: Parcells philosophy, you know, does ring true. You know, you
28:50
Speaker 2: want to keep your team in it as long as
28:53
Speaker 2: you possibly can, yes, and yeah, yeah, to win.
28:57
Speaker 1: The great irony of that is that Dan Campbell is
28:59
Speaker 1: a Bill Parcell's coaching disciples, So right, right, right, right,
29:05
Speaker 1: all right, great, Greg, really appreciate you breaking down the tape.
29:08
Speaker 1: We will do it again next week. It'll be Chargers
29:11
Speaker 1: tape and boy is at a big game the philadel
29:14
Speaker 1: a potentially seasoned, declining game.
29:17
Speaker 2: It's a big game for the Chargers too, by the way.
29:18
Speaker 1: Both agreed, Yeah, very much. All right, great stuff. So
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