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Sisterly Love · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio, another.
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  Speaker 2: Week of the Bachelorette. This is the almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 2: with my co host, who is incredible, who is very
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  Speaker 2: excited right now, very pumped up about this week's episode.
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  Speaker 2: We have a lot to talk about, a lot to
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  Speaker 2: break down. It's Hometown's week. Hello Ashley, Hello Ben.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I am super stoked about talking about this episode.
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  Speaker 3: It was such a good episode. There's so many feelings,
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  Speaker 3: so much warmth. I loved all the families, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: I was, I was really so engaged. This is so
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  Speaker 3: funny when Charity ends up meeting Jesse at the end
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  Speaker 3: to just kind of deliberate, deliberate about the week. I
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  Speaker 3: was expecting to see Chris Harrison. I haven't been like
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  Speaker 3: that invested in that long that I expected Harrison to.
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  Speaker 2: Just be there. You're just like, this feels like a
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  Speaker 2: Harrison week. Yes, Wow, wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: But we still love Jesse. We still love Jesse. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: so loved this episode so much because so many reasons.
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  Speaker 3: One we got to know so many great people, and
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  Speaker 3: two you just didn't know what the heck was going
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  Speaker 3: to happen at the end, and it wasn't because multiple
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  Speaker 3: things had gone wrong during the week. It was because
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  Speaker 3: so many things went great. There was only one wrong thing,
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  Speaker 3: and it happened with somebody, Joey, who I thought was
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  Speaker 3: too strong leading up to this week to have just
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  Speaker 3: one fault bring him down.
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  Speaker 2: We got a lot to break down. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: go in order here of hometowns. Ashley is right, I think, Ashley,
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  Speaker 2: would you tell me that I'm right if I made
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  Speaker 2: this statement that in seasons past, this has been the
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  Speaker 2: most I don't want to say likable. That's not the word.
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  Speaker 2: I want to use. The most peaceful, the most, the easiest,
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  Speaker 2: the the the least bizarre hometown's week in recent memory.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because usually you get the whole protective parents or
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  Speaker 3: siblings thing, overly protective, you know, like too much attitude,
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  Speaker 3: and then you get somebody who got riled up and
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  Speaker 3: made the lead feel uncomfortable. We didn't have that either.
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  Speaker 3: We just had an Uncle Joe. We'll get to Uncle Joe,
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  Speaker 3: who I wonder if Joey is named after in a
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  Speaker 3: few Let's start with Aaron. Why we call him? Why
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  Speaker 3: we still call him an Aaron B. But it just
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  Speaker 3: feels like Aaron B. Rolls off the tongue. Aaron Bee's hometown.
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  Speaker 2: It's Aaron's hometown in Houston, Texas. It's hometown week. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to go in order today with Aaron, Joey, Xavier, Doton,
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  Speaker 2: Ashley coming into this week. Aaron Bees the one that
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  Speaker 2: we felt like was most likely to go home. Now
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  Speaker 2: we did, I will say, and you kind of mentioned
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  Speaker 2: it at the beginning of this podcast. This was the
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  Speaker 2: hometown I was most intrigued by going into this episode
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  Speaker 2: because we thought he was going home. We thought I
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  Speaker 2: expected something to be clearly go wrong here where we'd
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  Speaker 2: be like, of course, now he's going home. It's not
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  Speaker 2: a shocker. But as you mentioned the beginning of episode,
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  Speaker 2: after watching the first couple of dates, you and I
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  Speaker 2: both felt like we didn't know who was going to
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  Speaker 2: be eliminated because this hometown went really well. Kick it
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  Speaker 2: off with Aaron Be's.
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  Speaker 3: Hometown, all right, So Aerin kind of goes straight into
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  Speaker 3: the family sash and they did a little date thing.
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  Speaker 3: Later we meet his two parents, who are standing stand outs,
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  Speaker 3: Eddie and Ethel. Amazing. Aaron says, yes, Ethel is the
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  Speaker 3: name of my dog, so it's a special name for us.
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  Speaker 3: We had a Lucy and then we had an Ethel. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: so Aaron kind of Warren's charity that his mom can
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  Speaker 3: be tough on girls. She doesn't like a lot of
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  Speaker 3: girls that he's brought home. But then we meet Ethel
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  Speaker 3: and she is warm and she loves charity, not without
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  Speaker 3: her like having a great conversation with her. She act
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  Speaker 3: actually ends the family part by saying that I more
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  Speaker 3: than like charity. So mom has been one over the
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  Speaker 3: dad Eddie incredible because this man one they share. They
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  Speaker 3: kind of like share for the first time that he's
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  Speaker 3: proud of Aaron, and Aaron is like, I've been waiting
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  Speaker 3: so long to hear my dad say he's proud. But
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  Speaker 3: that might be a little bit of a weird wording
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  Speaker 3: because I feel like this family is so connected and
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  Speaker 3: they've always been proud. But it's at this moment where
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  Speaker 3: he hears the words from his dad for the first
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  Speaker 3: time and they just express how much to late love
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  Speaker 3: each other. And oh, the dad is just like really
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  Speaker 3: sold on charity too, because he's just like, I don't
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  Speaker 3: I told them my boys and don't bring home girlfriends.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to meet your girlfriends. I want to
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  Speaker 3: meet girls that you say like, hey, I really see
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  Speaker 3: something long term with her and uh. He says that
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  Speaker 3: he sees it in Aaron's eyes and just the chemistry
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  Speaker 3: that they have together when they walk in the room,
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  Speaker 3: and it's breaking my heart. This father son relationship is
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  Speaker 3: so sweet, and so is Aaron's relationship with his siblings,
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  Speaker 3: specifically his younger brother. They're all just so stoked for
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  Speaker 3: Aaron because they all, you can tell, want to welcome
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  Speaker 3: Charity into the family, and Charity has she expressed that
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  Speaker 3: the expresses throughout this date that you know, she wasn't
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  Speaker 3: sure about Aaron because she felt like they had fallen behind.
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  Speaker 3: She even admits to the mom that if she had
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  Speaker 3: to accept a proposal from him today, would she do it?
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  Speaker 3: She said no, which is honest. But then at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the night, he's they go to this cute
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  Speaker 3: field and it's like basically a mock high school date.
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  Speaker 3: He plays the song that Laura and Elena played on
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  Speaker 3: their first date. They have matching letterman jackets. It's just
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  Speaker 3: the cutest thing ever, and he says that he's falling
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  Speaker 3: in love with her, and her reaction is wonderful. She
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  Speaker 3: starts crying and I'm thinking in my head, I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: because it's the first date, I'm like, oh, are you crying,
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  Speaker 3: because like you're sad that you can't that you don't
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  Speaker 3: reciprocate these feelings. The cynic in me was like, Ah,
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  Speaker 3: she's crying because she feels bad. But then the episode
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  Speaker 3: goes on and you kind of realize, like she keeps
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  Speaker 3: saying I can imagine a life with him, like I
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  Speaker 3: feel like I could be falling in love with him.
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  Speaker 3: So we're totally thrown off of what happens at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the episode. Sort of kind of okay, but
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  Speaker 3: let's continue to talk, Lak. Is there anything that you
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  Speaker 3: want to mention?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's unique. Well, I think one thing
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  Speaker 2: I want to mention is it's always exciting Eddie and Ethel.
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  Speaker 2: They had thirty two years of marriage, I think was
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  Speaker 2: how long they were married for, which is just an
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  Speaker 2: accomplishment in itself, and so we want to say congratulations
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  Speaker 2: to that. But then also, you know, it's interesting to
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  Speaker 2: watch this episode for me Ashley now knowing how it
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  Speaker 2: ends right with Aaron be going home and seeing him,
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  Speaker 2: you know, communicate the way he did to her, saying
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  Speaker 2: the words he said this very cute moment that they
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  Speaker 2: had and then how good Charity felt. And so I
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  Speaker 2: say this to say, in the back of her mind,
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  Speaker 2: I think going into this hometown, she always expected Aaron
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  Speaker 2: to be the one going home, Like I think she
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  Speaker 2: knew this week, like she had communicated that she couldn't
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  Speaker 2: say yes to the mom she knew that they had
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  Speaker 2: fallen behind. I think these other three relationships had such
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  Speaker 2: like dynamic conversations in the previous weeks that she thought
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  Speaker 2: and if you would asked her who's going to be
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  Speaker 2: going home within this week, she would have said, Aaron
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  Speaker 2: is right. So it's interesting to me that she felt
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  Speaker 2: good after this date, not that she wants to feel bad,
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  Speaker 2: but knowing what we know about Charity so far through
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  Speaker 2: the season, I expected her to be almost in turmoil
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  Speaker 2: going leaving this date because she was like, I it's
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be so hard, like these next steps
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  Speaker 2: I cannot imagine.
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  Speaker 3: Like I think she's stressed. I think she would be
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  Speaker 3: stressed at the end of this date, thinking like, oh crap,
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  Speaker 3: this was the guy that I was supposed to kind
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  Speaker 3: of eliminate at the end.
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  Speaker 2: Of this Yes, but she's not. She's feel I don't
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  Speaker 2: think so.
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  Speaker 3: I think she's truly happy, and I wonder what the
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  Speaker 3: actual order of the dates was, But based on her reaction,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I wonder. I wish she was here
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  Speaker 3: right now so I could ask her, Charity, did you
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  Speaker 3: truly look at this like each day was with a
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  Speaker 3: different man, different situation. Did you separate it so well
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  Speaker 3: that you weren't thinking about the others or were you
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  Speaker 3: plotting them against each other?
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  Speaker 2: Yep? I agree. Well, next hometown date is Joey's. It's
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  Speaker 2: Joey's hometown date, which is in Collegeville, Pennsylvania, which I've
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  Speaker 2: never heard of in my life.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, stay college, No, yeah, Collegeville, never heard
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  Speaker 2: of it. But Charity is very excited to meet Joey's family.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's reasons for that. I think she's very
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  Speaker 2: into Joey, and so meeting Joey's family is very exciting
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  Speaker 2: for her. We've seen so far through the season that
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  Speaker 2: Joey and Charity have felt like they've always been in
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  Speaker 2: a good place. They've always been able to connect. They
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  Speaker 2: obviously connected physically and the longest kiss ever. They've connected
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  Speaker 2: through conversation and through good moments and great moments, and
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  Speaker 2: so this feels like a strong relationship going in. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think you or I or most people that listen
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  Speaker 2: to this podcast expected this hometown date to go poorly,
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  Speaker 2: but out of all the hometowns, it did feel like
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  Speaker 2: this one was the toughest. Not bad. I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to put it up there with some of the really bizarre,
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  Speaker 2: really tough hometown dates of pass but it does raise
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  Speaker 2: some questions, maybe more questions than answers, so Ashley take
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  Speaker 2: it away.
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  Speaker 3: Charity even says at the end of the hometown she goes,
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  Speaker 3: I was hoping it was going to be great. It
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  Speaker 3: wasn't bad. It was good.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't great, though that she's not saying it was great.
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  Speaker 3: No, she's not saying it's great. So I think that
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  Speaker 3: the only lead in that we had that this might
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  Speaker 3: be like the more dramatic hometown was because we saw
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  Speaker 3: on the scenes in the next episode last week that
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  Speaker 3: this man who we thought may have been Joey's dad
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  Speaker 3: but it wasn't. It was his uncle. Asked Charity, if
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  Speaker 3: she thinks that he's seeing she's seeing the real Joey.
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  Speaker 2: We kind of well, I just want to pause you there, though,
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  Speaker 2: because we thought, or at least I said I think
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  Speaker 2: on last week's podcast that I thought this little clip
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  Speaker 2: was being overblown, like it was taken out of context.
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  Speaker 2: It was just a good teaser. It necessary, It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't necessarily overblown. It was very much what we saw.
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  Speaker 3: So he decides to take her to a tennis court
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  Speaker 3: teacher tennis lesson that's his occupation in Hawaii. And in
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  Speaker 3: the middle of the lesson, in which she's being like
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  Speaker 3: super flirty, and she keeps saying how comfortably comfortable she
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  Speaker 3: is with Joey, like physically, she just feels like she's
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  Speaker 3: very loose, she's very flirty, and I'm kind of realizing,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, obviously, like everybody's been really into Joey the
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  Speaker 3: entire time fandom and charity, but now that I put
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  Speaker 3: him directly next to a date with Aaron B I'm like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I understand she's she's definitely like more crushing on Joey.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: So they they're in there, they're doing the in and
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  Speaker 3: then Joey's uncle, Uncle Joe comes in and he's such
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  Speaker 3: like a bro dude. He's like not like giving like
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  Speaker 3: a ton of warm energy her way, I don't remember
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  Speaker 3: if there's anything like from he He basically just says, like,
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  Speaker 3: this is my uncle. I am the closest in my
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  Speaker 3: family to him. He is somebody that like has guided
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  Speaker 3: him in like so many ways. It's who he started
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  Speaker 3: doing tennis with and that obviously turned into his occupation.
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  Speaker 3: And then they go back and the forth. They hit
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  Speaker 3: some balls and then Joe Uncle Joe says that he
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  Speaker 3: and Joey have these similarities and it's almost like he's
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  Speaker 3: referring to the fact that they have similarities that will
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  Speaker 3: be of great impact in relationships. Okay, maybe I'm reaching,
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  Speaker 3: but that's just how I'm vibing.
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  Speaker 2: That's what you're taking from it. It's what you assumed
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  Speaker 2: he was trying to say.
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  Speaker 3: This is just me. Yeah. So then Uncle Joe leaves.
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  Speaker 3: He kind of makes a reference to the fact that
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  Speaker 3: he didn't feel a ton of chemistry between the two
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  Speaker 3: of them on the court.
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  Speaker 2: Now, okay, to close this up, then he makes this
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  Speaker 2: comment Ashley, one do you agree? Two what does chemistry
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  Speaker 2: even look like on the court? And three do you
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  Speaker 2: think do you think that Uncle Joe walked into this
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  Speaker 2: date because of the situation, because of the fact that
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  Speaker 2: it was the Bachelorette because of probably his confusion on
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  Speaker 2: why Joey's even on this show. Do you think he
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  Speaker 2: just had already said there's no way that is gonna
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  Speaker 2: be chemistry between the two.
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  Speaker 3: I think that the dude is kind of like bitter
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  Speaker 3: against the idea of the show. Sure, that's what I
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  Speaker 3: think that he probably thinks that he and his nephew
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  Speaker 3: are too cool for it. Again, I might be reaching,
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  Speaker 3: and I just I'm vibing, Okay, this is just like
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  Speaker 3: I'm going with the flow on how my feelings may maybe.
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  Speaker 3: And then I as far as like their chemistry, I
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  Speaker 3: always thought it was great. It was great. But then
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  Speaker 3: I started a second guess the chemistry. I'm like, wait
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  Speaker 3: a second, do I have to watch body language more
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  Speaker 3: between the two of them. Is Joey off? Is he
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  Speaker 3: not as into her and not as reciprocative to touch?
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  Speaker 3: And I thought that, like, they seem pretty good, And
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  Speaker 3: once I continue to watch the rest of their interaction
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, no, I think that they do
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  Speaker 3: have chemeras.
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  Speaker 2: So you disagreed with Uncle Joe. You think they have chemistry.
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  Speaker 2: You've always thought they've had chemistry. You think Uncle Joe
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  Speaker 2: is wrong, which takes us then to later on in
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  Speaker 2: the afternoon where Uncle Joe brings up the clip that
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  Speaker 2: we obviously watched in the heser when he kind of
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  Speaker 2: says that his nephew is a chameleon of sorts. He
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  Speaker 2: kind of adjusts to wherever and whoever he needs to
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  Speaker 2: be at that time. My first question to you, before
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  Speaker 2: we get into just what he meant by it, is
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  Speaker 2: do you think it is a bad thing? Listeners? Do
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  Speaker 2: you think it is a bad thing when somebody kind
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  Speaker 2: of adjusts who they are, what they say, how they
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  Speaker 2: behave based on the group that they're surrounded by.
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  Speaker 3: I have a good friend who I find that does this,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't find it to be a bad thing.
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  Speaker 3: It just she's a little bit different with different people,
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  Speaker 3: which I think most people tend to sort of be.
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  Speaker 3: You have like different vibes and personality that come out right,
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  Speaker 3: don't do you find that?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think when I hear this, I think
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  Speaker 2: when I hear Uncle Joe say this, my thought goes
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  Speaker 2: to he like, Joey is doing this to an extreme right,
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  Speaker 2: Like he's one person in one moment another person in
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  Speaker 2: another moment, which I don't think is right. But I
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  Speaker 2: think as long as you keep your core like foundational principles,
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  Speaker 2: your ethics, your values, yeah, your care for people, then like, yes,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be I'm going to be different
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  Speaker 2: around my closest friends from middle school than I am
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  Speaker 2: going to be in a group of strangers at a
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  Speaker 2: business meeting. I'm going to be different on a first
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  Speaker 2: date then I'm going to be on a fifth date.
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  Speaker 2: There's just a difference.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can look at what he's saying dramatically, like
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  Speaker 3: I think Uncle Joe is trying to be dramatic, so sure,
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  Speaker 3: But what I think this is is like, yeah, you've
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  Speaker 3: never seen your nephew with cameras for a national network show.
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  Speaker 3: You've probably never seen your nephew like on a date before.
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  Speaker 3: Of course he's going to come across different.
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  Speaker 2: Well, And I mean I look back on my time
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  Speaker 2: on the Bachelorette especially, and I was I was different
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  Speaker 2: on the Bachelorette then I would have been in any
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  Speaker 2: other dating scenario because I one was nervous too, knew
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  Speaker 2: that everything I said and did would be potentially aired
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  Speaker 2: on national television, so I didn't make the snide jokes
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  Speaker 2: that maybe didn't land. But if it didn't land at
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  Speaker 2: amongst a bunch of friends, they just say that was
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  Speaker 2: a stupid joke and we move on. If it goes
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  Speaker 2: on national television, there is judgment. It does live with
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  Speaker 2: me for a while. So I would say one hundred percent,
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  Speaker 2: I was quieter on the Bachelorette. I was more reserved.
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  Speaker 2: I was shy, I was nervous. I didn't speak up
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  Speaker 2: maybe as much as I would for example doing a podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I was a different person. So I think it has
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  Speaker 2: to happen with everybody. I think it's a unique person
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  Speaker 2: that is the same way on this show than they
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  Speaker 2: are in real life. Like I think Brayden is probably
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  Speaker 2: very similar in real life as he was on this show.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't seem to be reserved at all.
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  Speaker 3: But it may even be not to defend Brandon even more,
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  Speaker 3: but it may be even more of like an opposite effect,
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  Speaker 3: where it's like if you are completely like yourself, it
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  Speaker 3: comes across bigger on TV than it would in person.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, sure, but I just think like some personalities do
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  Speaker 2: have to adjust more or less. And it's especially true
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  Speaker 2: with personalities that live in their own head that are
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  Speaker 2: very they're one always kind of self aware in a
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  Speaker 2: good and bad way. Uh. They are always thinking, like
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  Speaker 2: even in normal life, about what they're saying and how
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  Speaker 2: it's like going to affect people positively or negatively. If
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  Speaker 2: you do that in real life, you're one hundred percent
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  Speaker 2: going to do it, you know, when cameras are around.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Another thing that is like telling that maybe there's
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  Speaker 3: more to this story.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm is that.
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  Speaker 3: In the scene to the next episode, it shows Joey
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  Speaker 3: and Charity at dinner together and he says, I'm not
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: an easy person to be in a relationship with. Mmmm, So,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: now do you think there's more of a story.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know if the two things are correlated directly.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I do think he's gonna for the first time kind
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: of express some of the things that maybe he has
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: his red flags. However, I also would argue that if
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: somebody's willing to tell you what their red flags are,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: you can most of the time can work through that.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Like if he comes to her and says, I'm not
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: an easy person to be in a relationship with because
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: I have a hard time communicating my feelings or i
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: I'm selfish. You know, I've lived alone in Hawaii for
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: so many years, I'm selfish.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: I think that's probably what it's going to be, along
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: the lines of he kind of likes his independence.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, he likes his independence, and I think that's what
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: we're going with now. I do want to just kind
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: of close up the thought with Uncle Joe, though, Okay,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: what do you think Uncle Joe was trying to do here? Like,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: do you think he was trying to end this relationship
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: because this whole thing seems so weird to him. Think
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: he was trying to add doubt to Charity's head? Or
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: do you think he was trying to do something to
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: deepen their bond together.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: He definitely wasn't trying to deepen the bond. There's like
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: some thing about this guy, and I don't want to say,
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: like I don't like him. I don't know anything about him,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: but like he gave dark energy, Okay, and I like
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: don't even want to elaborate on that because I don't
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: know him. I can just say what I interpreted him
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: to be you from the little he said.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Maybe the other way to say that was he because
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: he did this for me, He gave me energy that
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: if it's not that in life, if he doesn't approve,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: then it's not right, meaning if he isn't on board
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: with what's happening and there's like nuance to it, if
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: it's not his way, then there's no way.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I also think that like he's always been
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: the person that Joey's gone to for advice and for
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: like just as that like role model figure, and I
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: feel like he almost doesn't want somebody else to be
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: put up on a pedestal by Joey.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Hmm.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: That's that's heavy, I know, And that's I'm so ridiculous.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: This is a podcast, guys, I'm just throwing out things
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: that I just just lightly vibed.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: But Okay, So in all in all, though, this scene
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: with Joey's uncle is not in the top twenty of
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: scenes we've seen in the past on Hometown. Yeah, it
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: feels more dramatic because all these other hometowns functioned as
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: such a smooth and sweet and like simple, peaceful place.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: This is the only amount of kind of contentiousness that
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: we saw this week, and that's why it feels so heightened.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: But I don't think this is is like one that
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: will ever go back. I don't think we'll remember this
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: in a year. I don't think there was sabotage at
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: play here. I think everything can still play out exactly
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: how Charity needs it and wants it to be. It
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: just felt like the one standout moment that we could say, hey,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: didn't seem to be great. Didn't it seem to be helpful.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it was helpful, Maybe didn't seem to be
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: one that added security and peace to their relationship. It
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: added some questions. Okay, to close out Joey's date here
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: with the rest of the family, is there anything else
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: to sit out to you, Ashley, The.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Rest of the family seems lovely, especially his moms. She
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: got really emotional, just really excited to see him finding
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: somebody that he's willing to commit to, because everybody was
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: just like, oh my god, if you get Joey's heart,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: like holy Moley, like almost like he doesn't let himself
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: fall easily. But I think the other huge thing to
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: mention about Joey's date is that Charity was ready to
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: say I'm falling in love with you. She said, I'm
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: ready to say this to him. I wonder if she
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: was ready to say that about Dotton, because she didn't
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: mention it up with Dawton and then at the end,
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: when they're sitting on the bench and talking, she's hoping
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: to say it, I think, but she's waiting for him
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: to say it, and then he doesn't say anything about her,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: so then she just drops the whole thing. And it
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: gets really awkward when he gets in the car because
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: and he's sensing that something is off. He's like, oh man,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: am I gonna go home? Did something go wrong? Am I?
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: The next on the shopping block, he said that every
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: time they say goodbye, it feels like they're leaving off
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: on a good note, ready to explore the relationship more.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: And then this has felt more like an ending.
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  Speaker 3: So the family great, the mom super emotional, she seemed
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: really sweet. Everybody was really excited that he found him
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: found a girl to give his heart too. It seems
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: like he does not give his heart easily. And the
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: huge thing is just the whole exit. Because she was
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: ready to say I'm falling in love with you. She
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: didn't say this about any other guy during this episode,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: but she was preparing to possibly say it to Joey
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: if it seemed like the right timing if things went great.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: But because they, as she said, didn't go great, and
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: because I think he didn't really say anything along those lines,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: she doesn't say anything. She puts them in the car crying.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: She keeps saying, I'm crying because I'm gonna miss you.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: But he can pick up that that is not the
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: whole story, and he says that he feels like he
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: might be on the chopping block because they always leave
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: each other excited to further explore their relationship and this
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: just felt off.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: So where do you think it goes? I mean, at
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: this point in the episode, actually you're watching this scene,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: you're seeing unfold. Where's your mind at.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: My mind is that she likes him too much to
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: have this be the last straw, because it's really the
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: first Strawstan.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: There's ever been anything at all, even emotional in any
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: type of negative way. Is Again, as little as we
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: think this was a negative, this has been the first
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: time in their relationship, it was not. It was going
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: to be shocking to me. If Joey went home this week.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have expected it. Didn't see it coming, never
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: fully believed it could.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: So.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Xavier hometown. Speaking of really sweet family dates, this is
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: definitely one of them. If you remember last week, Xavier
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: and Charity had a what I would say a very real,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: difficult conversation about his experience mostly on the show, and
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: where he was at and where he thought he could
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: go and what he was worried about. He was I
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: don't think he snuck in to hometowns. In fact, I
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: would still say last week that Aaron b snuck into hometowns,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: but there were questions about Xavier and Charity and where
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: their relationship would be going and could go. And so
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: with this hometown, I had a lot of anticipation as
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I tuned in.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: So first they go knit, which is cute. They went
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: to a knitting class. He taught her how to knit,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: so like all the guys are trying to do like
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: their thing. It's like Joey did tennis and got to
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: touch her while teaching her form. The same thing is
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: happening here with Xavier holding her hands as they're learning
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: how Actually great pastime of this for her a first time.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Very sweet. And then they move on to the family portion,
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: and we are going to meet his mom, who we
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: know he's become a scientist because she has ms. The
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: woman lights up the room with her smile when she
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: sees charity. Everybody. This is another wonderful family. This sister
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: is freaking obsessed with charity. Xavier says one thing that
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: I was like a little bit of like a hmmm
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: for me. He says, I think Chelsea might like charity
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: more than may love charity more than I do.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean I think in the past, like
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: I love Jessica's family. They are they I love them
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: a ton, And she used to like she's made a
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: joke about every single person and her family, like did
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: you marry me? Because of my dad, Did you marry
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: because of my mom? My brother's like, it's just a
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: it's a sweet joke. And I've made the same like
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: remarks back to her at times based on my family,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: and I know where it comes from for me, and
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I know where it comes from her. It's a place
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: of endearment because we are obviously so close with our
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: families and we love and respect our families a lot.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: That when you find a partner who loves your family
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: equally as much and enjoys them equally as much, it
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: is like the sweetest thing to see and to be
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: a part of and to gift, And it's a big
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: answer to prayer. So I think Xavier says it with
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: like how cool is this? Like how fun is this?
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, especially since he said that his sister is really
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: protective and so charity. She sits down with the mom.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: They have a great exchange. The thing that she really
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: learns from the sit downs with the sister and the
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: mom is that he is ready to be a husband
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: in a day that like all those things that he
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: was saying, you know, being scared about commitment is the
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: mom says, probably just because this is such a fast process.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: And not that he has any fear of commitment, like
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: in general. And then he sits down with his dad
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: and they have this cute little convo about like, when
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: do you know that the person that you're with is
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: like the person that you should be with like forever,
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: like something that will last over thirty years, like you
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: and mom. And the guy just basically says, like, you
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: just know there's a feeling when you're with that person,
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: and the dad says that he says that he feels
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: like he sees that connection between the two of them,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: and Xavier's saying that he feels like he can get
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: there with charity.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny. I was so mad at my
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: dad for years. And I've said on the podcast before,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: but I asked him once, how do you know when
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: you found the right person? And his advice back to
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: me was when you know you know? And I I
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: said it, and I was like, that's such a terrible answer,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: and I joke the cliche, you know, But then I
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: hear all of these people in my life and I
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: watch it on television like The Bachelorette, and I see
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: people who love their sons and daughters, and that question
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: is usually asked in hometowns in some way or another,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: And it always can kind of be summed up with
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: that same thing when you know, you know, and I
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: say it was true for my own life, I'd say
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: it was true based on conversations you and I have
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: had about your relationship. It's it's actually a very sweet thing,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: because how do you describe love and how do you
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: describe that you found somebody that you believe you can
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: spend the rest of your life with. You just know, yeah,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: They leave and Charity says that she just feels like
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: their relationship is elevating and she's walking away so good,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: so good that she says that she can see him
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: as her husband, And I'm like, holy crap, holye, who
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: is leaving actually knowing that Dowton is coming? And You're like, well,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: he's a shoeling.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I just want to make sure that I state this again.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: From week one, Xavier has been my top choice favorite.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: You love him, I love him too. He's great.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I think he's great. I have no spoilers, I have
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: no information on how this plays out, but I have
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: said since week one I believe that Xavier will be
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: the one standing at the end. And I still will
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: say that to this day.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: I still don't know how you can say that with Donton.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but like, I don't know what it is
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: of me watching Charity and Dowton is like me watching
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: one of the greatest Bachelor love stories.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: It's sweet.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: I still think you're playing Devil's Out every week.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not, and I'm fully aware that I could be
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: wrong here, and I'm with you that this could be
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: one of and at this point is one of the
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Bachelor's greatest love stories from start to finish without any
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: issues along the way. But I think Xavier could be
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: that sneaky kind of There's just this theory that I
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: have in my head that there's no way the show
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: would make it this obvious for this long. But we're
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: getting far enough along in the show that I'm starting
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: to be convinced and know they just made it this
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: obvious for this long. But I've always been surprised at
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: some point, and with the relationship with Dotten, which we'll
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: get into right now, I have yet to have a
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: surprise where I'm like, no, this is just still really good.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: So like there's just no drama you've never seen like
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: a drama free coupling in the end.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: No, I don't know if I could remember one. I mean,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: let's go back, let's just do this little game. Second,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: remember Zach and Katie, great love story, tons of drama, tons,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Kaylan Sean come to mind, beautiful love story during the season.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: They really especially being there that it felt right, you know,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: it felt like it was gonna work. Tons. I mean,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: the most dramatic ever.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Well, let's do another married couple Jojo and Jordan. They
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: are tons of drama there, tons of duma, them always
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: being like Jordan's here for the wrong reasons one.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Hundred and hometown are and the uh the date at
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: the very end with Robbie where the family was kind
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: of on Robbie's side saying I think guy like Robbie
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: and we're like, what are you thinking? And now we're yea,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: now we're all like that was really bad.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Rachel and Brian, they convinced us she wanted Peter.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: So it's just not the case where these love stories
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: play out without drama. And we're getting so far along
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: that drama I don't think is going to ensue and
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: we could be standing here being like, yeah, this couple
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: is just perfect for each other. I hope that's the case.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Let's go into his hometown. Though again, he's been at
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: the top of your list every week, He's been at
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: the top of most people's lists. People like him, people
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: enjoy people want to see his family where he comes from.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I remember on night one when he came in that
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: he said that most people in his life like like him,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: like they kind of say that he is a likable guy.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: And so obviously his family is very supportive and encouraging
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: because he believes that he is that man and I
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: think he is. So his family was an exciting one
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: for me to tune into.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he is just the strong, silent type. There's definitely
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: a sex appeal about him. He's just like oods confidence.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: And he tells her that it's such an unfortunate situation,
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: but her his parents are Nigeria. They go for four
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: to six weeks every year, and it just happens to
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: be this four to six weeks. They come over to
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: the house. The family's awesome. There seems so warm, really welcoming,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: and then they go into the kitchen and meet his
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: grandma and this will and there's a gem to all
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: of us watching and to the earth. She's cooking up
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: a storm. She's too cute. She says that she sees
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: them as a match made in heaven right off the bat.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Now I want to get hers wording perfectly cricsuse. I
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: think it's so sweet. She said that she believes that
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: they are a match bonded from.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Heap, bonded in heaven.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: That's beautiful, so gorgeous.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: They go outside to eat and then his parents show up.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm wondering. I'm like, ABC, you guys
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: better have sent them first class back home, and you
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: better be setting them first class back to Nigeria so
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: that like, yeah, because this is a commitment, you know,
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: like that's their their time there, that's what they're I'm
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: sure their extended family is. And they took a lot
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: of effort and probably money with a like halfway across
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: the world flight flight change.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's not a short flight, that is a big flight.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I hope ABC treated them so well, but it is
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: so sweet to see them come in to see the
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: surprise and to have them there because you can tell
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: that Doton really really wants their input. And how weird
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: would it be if this all plays out like we
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: expected to and he never gets their input because they're
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: obviously a close family, it would be odd. So this
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: is beautiful.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: Ben. I was so stressed that she wasn't going to
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: meet them because I knew how important it was to her.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Because I really, even though it's tricky at this point,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: I really see the two of them together. I think
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: she does too, And she was like, I can't believe
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: that I'm going to get engaged in not having met
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: his parents, and now it's happening, they meet, it goes
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: over really well. He says that his mom is often
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: tough on the ladies he brings home, but she definitely
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: gets the stamp of approval and beyond when she says
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: that she's part of the family already, She's like already
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: accepted her as a daughter. I'm like, oh my gosh,
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: I got goose bumps when she said that. Anything.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Do you think they're seeing the same thing we're seeing? Like,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: do you think her parents, because I mean from week one,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: you were saying, hey, this is it and I wasn't convinced.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I'm still not convinced that it's gonna end up like
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: you think it will. But I you know, it's obviously
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: a good relationship. His parents know him well obviously, do
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: you think like immediately they can just be in the
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: presence of the two of them be like, yeah, this
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: is this is special, I think.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: So I hope so for the woman to say, like,
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: I accept you as family. And she said, I have
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: a wedding for you that I am already basically mentally
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: planning for you in Nigeria. Uh yeah, she obviously sees it.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: She literally said, if you choose my son, I will
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: have a huge wedding for you.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Come on, let's go.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Well it's so freaking cute. Everything about this is amazing.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: And the grandma just like hurt just her presence every
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: time she's on the screen amazing And I have to
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: like just talk about the little clip at the end
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: of the credits when the mom gives her gifts, so
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: she's giving charity gifts. She gives her a necklace like
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: a dress, all from Africa, and then at the end
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: she goes this beaded thing. She goes, that's for you
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: putting around your waist in the bedroom. And then the
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: sister goes, my mother, you'll learn is very giving.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Funny's so cute. All right, So love this love everything
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: about it seriously goosebumps at multiple scenes. And then they
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: go to the drive in movies and they have kind
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: of what we saw last season with Rachel and Zach,
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: where it's like a movie of the two of them
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: throughout time and at the end there's pictures of the
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: two of them together and Charity is just like so emotional. Hm.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: I like this date. Do you remember? I like this
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: date last season. I think this could be a staple date.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: I like seeing the pictures. I like seeing the reaction.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: I think it's very real, it's very cute. I could
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: watch this date most seasons because I think it brings
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: out like a vulnerability too between the two people connection.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And when you go over to Jesse's house, do
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: you like looking at old pictures of her old photo albums? Uh?
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did, just I did actually this trip because
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: we were there for a baby shower and so we're
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: pulling out old baby pictures and see the best you've
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: learned about you mean you learn about them, right? You
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: learn about how you know the experiences they had?
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, you tell stories. Yeah, it's great based on the photos.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: It's an easy convo starter.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Definitely all right.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Well, then Charity goes and talks to Jesse, who, like
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: I was saying, I was expecting Chris and the bottom,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: you know. To sum up this conversation, it's holy crap.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: I pretty much, I pretty much cold say. I'm falling
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: in love with all four of these guys, and every
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: hometown was wonderful. I see them all as husband material,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: and it just confuses us more as to who she's
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: going to eliminate.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Well, I think at this point I'm still convinced Aaron's
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: going home. The only reason I say that is because
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: nobody moved down this week other than possibly Joey. Yeah, sure,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: down other than Joey. But I didn't think it was
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: enough to send him home. I know, And I've I've
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: thought for two weeks, now, more than two weeks that
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: at some point Aaron was going home. And so I
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: think I've just had this build in idea that Aaron
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: was going home. Even though you're right, all four of
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: them this week, shine bright, they pull it off.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: What you have to do is just think like, Okay,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: is it Aaron that like got me this week? Or
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: is it Aaron's family that got me? And really it
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: was it was the whole family experience.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Sure that makes sense. Yeah, well, the conversation with Jesse,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: it feels very similar to conversations in the past. This
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: is there's a moment every sea that I love and
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know why I love it. Actually, I love
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: when the people walk into the Rose ceremony after hometowns
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: and after Fantasy Suites because I believe we're kind of
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: looking at the hall of fame of the season and
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: it's a very relaxed vibe. When Jesse greets them and
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: they say hello, Jesse, and how are you. I'm doing good.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: You know, it's less It just feels more into a.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Game show moment.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's that's it. It's less of a game show
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: moment and more of a personal like, Hey, I remember
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: these moments from your season, and it's gonna be weird
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: now for me to see you go home because we
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: have connected with you as a contestant and we have
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: connected with your relationship with Charity. It is less of
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: a game show moment. It is more personal and there's
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: I just really like the entries. It's weird, but I
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: like the entries.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: I do too bad, I do too And I love
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: it when they do a rose ceremony at this airport, airplace, hangar,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: wherever this might be. It really adds to the drama
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: and just like the sexiness to it all, sure does
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: all right. Well, when we see Aeron go home and
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: he was very emotional, he says that he's like holding
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: back tears and oh, it really got he got me.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: You know, this episode he got me and he hasn't
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: got me all season.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's an emotional exit for him. I
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: think he really likes Charity. I think some of his
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: behavior in the you know, protection of Charity and the
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: kind of like the anti Braden camp leading that I
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: think did come from a place where he just really
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: liked Charity, and I wasn't convinced of that most of
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: the season. I think this episode really solidified that a
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: lot of that kind of protection came from the fact
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: that he really believed that him and Charity could be
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: together and should be together at the end, which is
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: tough to see him go home, but it's also I
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: do think the one relationship that was most expected to
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: end it was it.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Was and I just really want to see him like
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: have success in Paradise now.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think he Will. I think he's gonna gonna
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: be great, but Aaron b Is going home, which leads
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: us leaves us with Doughton, Xavier, and Joey. Moving into
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: the next week, which is Fantasy Suits Week. It is
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: always an interesting week. There always seems to be something
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: pop up in Fantasy Suites Week that is shocking, surprising, different,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: and it has helped most relationships on this show either
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: be solidified or end and we can pull back many
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: moments in Bachelor history for that well, actually we do
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: have Bachelor headlines to get to. This has been another
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: breakdown of Charity season of The Bachelor.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: We're loving this episode, Ashley between Joey and Xavier, which
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: one falls second, because I know where you feel is first.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Then what I don't know? I don't know, and I'm
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: having fun with the fact that I don't know. I
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: just put a wild goose out, especially to humor you
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: and say that Xavier gets farther than Joey because maybe
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: the Joey thing. Next week, something weird happens. I also
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: am very curious to know who shows up that Charity
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: is mind blown by her brother. Oh you think so,
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: We'll see Hey, it's signed for Bachelor headlines. Let's jump
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: into it. The first headline is this Bachelor in Paradise.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Is Raven and Adam revealed baby number two's name?
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: They also they also released the sex because we didn't
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: know if it was a girl or boy once you
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: get at birth last week it is Max Asa gotstock
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: and the baby boy obviously is was eight pounds, two
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: outs one ounce when he was born last Monday wasn't
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Sunday or Monday. Yeah, so, oh my god. You have
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: to see Raven's instagram for just the cutest videos of Gates,
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: who's one and a half, interact with baby Max. Really
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: two freaking cute.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Very sweet. Well, next headline is this Serena Pitt reveals
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: why no Bachelor Nation stars were at her bachelorette party.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: It's not very dramatic, guys, It's just that she's like, hey,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: guess what. I went on The Bachelor two and a
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: half years ago. I was close to those girls, but
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: these are the crew of my closest friends, most of
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: whom I've known for eight plus years. So I will
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: have Bachelor Nation friends at the wedding, but this was
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: my core group.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: That makes sense. Well, That's all the headlines we have
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: for you today. A very quiet week in Bachelor Nation.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Not a lot of drama, not a lot of stories happening,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: but we'll have more next week. I'm sure they always
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: are existing. But until next week, I've been Ben, I've
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: been Ashley.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: See you guys.
• 45:51
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