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Mark Mitchell: Police Minister on the lack of enforcement of the ban of smoking and vaping in cars with children · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: Remember in twenty twenty when the government passed the law
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  Speaker 1: to ban smoking and vaping in the car with kids,
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  Speaker 1: Remember that, And they said they'd go out there and
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  Speaker 1: they would slap you with a fine or I didn't know,
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  Speaker 1: drag you off and.
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  Speaker 2: A rest you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it turns out not a single person has been
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  Speaker 1: even fined. The cops said a year ago that they've
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  Speaker 1: got computer system and problems. Apparently computer says no won't
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  Speaker 1: allow them to issue fines, and so they didn't. They
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  Speaker 1: also didn't believe it was the right way. They were
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  Speaker 1: taking a health first approach.
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  Speaker 2: At the time.
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  Speaker 1: The minister told them to sort it out, but it
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  Speaker 1: still hasn't happened. Apparently Mark Mitchell is the police minister
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  Speaker 1: with me this morning. Minister, good morning, good morning Ron.
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  Speaker 3: And you're the only one that i'd get up at
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  Speaker 3: quarter past five in the morning to discuss fape with. Mate,
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, well, I'm happy, I'm happy you're here. I'm happy
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  Speaker 2: you're here. It because because look, I don't think you'll
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  Speaker 2: be listened to. It's important you listened to.
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  Speaker 3: But what's going on listening to her? Right? I'm listening
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  Speaker 3: to her right, don't you worry that might have been
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  Speaker 3: the previous government's priority. My priority was stopping ram raids,
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  Speaker 3: getting on top of aggravated robbery violent crime, which under
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  Speaker 3: the previous government six years as a country we've seen skyrocket.
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  Speaker 3: The police are about.
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  Speaker 2: They're voping in cars, are smoking in cars.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just addressing the point that you're saying. Are the
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  Speaker 3: police listening to me? Absolutely they are. They're responding to
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  Speaker 3: my expectation that I released publicly.
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  Speaker 2: On this one. Are they listening on this one?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the vaping is that you're going to talk to
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  Speaker 3: the police. That is an operational issue, and so they're
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  Speaker 3: very clear about the fact that they prefer a health
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  Speaker 3: response around this, and that is quite simple educating parents
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  Speaker 3: not to do it, and I totally support them in
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  Speaker 3: that view. However, however, there is legislation there. They're looking
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  Speaker 3: at how they can operationalize that. That does mean trying
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  Speaker 3: to come up with a fines type system.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the problem, and do work on that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's all great, but here's the problem. The law
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  Speaker 1: was passed back in twenty twenty. How is it that
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  Speaker 1: we're almost in twenty twenty six and they have never
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  Speaker 1: bothered to come up with a system to introduce a
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  Speaker 1: fine that Parliament said was a potential punishment.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think there's a couple of things. Number one,
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  Speaker 3: I think that it is an operational question around how
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  Speaker 3: they operational? Operational is it that is for police?
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  Speaker 2: But don't think number two you.
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  Speaker 3: Have to do it number two. But the important thing
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  Speaker 3: is to your question is there was a change of
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  Speaker 3: government with a different set of priorities, and my priorities
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  Speaker 3: the ministers the incoming minister is that we had seen
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  Speaker 3: a massive increase in violent crime and total communities were
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  Speaker 3: no longer.
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  Speaker 1: You are not wrong and you're not wrong. But I
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  Speaker 1: guess the thing is is it sort of just up
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  Speaker 1: to police what they do. I mean, Parliament can say, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: our pass this law. I want to do this, and
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  Speaker 1: I want to do that, and here's the punishments, and
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  Speaker 1: police are like, well we like that one and we
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  Speaker 1: don't like that one, so we'll make up our own minds.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think that the Parliament sides to give police
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  Speaker 3: powers and then police have to use have used judicial
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  Speaker 3: use of those powers. I can't interfere operationally. There is
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  Speaker 3: a separation that's extremely important that that is in place.
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  Speaker 3: I don't get to tell the police choquestion of how
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  Speaker 3: or when he's going to deploy his staff. What I
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  Speaker 3: do is I set our policies in terms of public safety,
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  Speaker 3: which I very clearly did, and I released my letter
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  Speaker 3: publicly when I became minister, and there was a big
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  Speaker 3: focus on increasing visibility, on getting on top of violent crime.
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  Speaker 3: That was my propos were my priority enough and the
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  Speaker 3: police and the police are responding to those priorities.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, fair enough.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, just before we go this idea of sort of
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  Speaker 1: banning that do police need more powers to move on
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  Speaker 1: homeless people or beggars or rough sleepers?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is this is the Labor Party
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  Speaker 3: trying to create a whole lot of hysteria around the
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  Speaker 3: fact that they're trying to create the impression that we
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  Speaker 3: won't let people come into Auckland cvds. That is not true.
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  Speaker 3: Quite simply, what we are trying to doing, working hard
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  Speaker 3: on is making sure it's a really complex issue. When
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  Speaker 3: I sort of when I was dealing with reducing violent
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  Speaker 3: crime in our Auckland CBD, which the police have been
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  Speaker 3: very successful at doing, we had fifteen rough sleepers, most
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  Speaker 3: of them had somewhere to go and sleep, most of
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  Speaker 3: them had a residence that they go and sleep. They're
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  Speaker 3: making a community that they're making a decision to congregate
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  Speaker 3: as a community in the CBD and what there's a
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  Speaker 3: whole lot of social issues there. There's intimidation issues, there
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  Speaker 3: was risks to the public and there was risk to
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  Speaker 3: themselves as well.
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  Speaker 2: So did they have home, Yes, they.
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  Speaker 3: Had absolutely, absolutely so. But what we're doing as we're
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  Speaker 3: recognizing and saying that there's a homelessness problem, I am
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  Speaker 3: I am reinstating in one working very closely with with
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  Speaker 3: Simeon Brown on this, who's the Minister for Auckland And
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  Speaker 3: I'm reinstating my stakeholder group which is the heart of
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  Speaker 3: the city, residence and rape pass groups, social service providers,
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  Speaker 3: government agencies, local government, CPNZ, Mary Warden's We all came together.
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  Speaker 3: It was very effective in dealing with the crime.
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  Speaker 2: And did they want your homelessness ban?
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  Speaker 3: Well, there was a lot of discussion around there. Absolutely
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  Speaker 3: when we were talking at when we're discussing this, that's
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  Speaker 3: not part of the government agenda at the moment, it's
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  Speaker 3: it is certainly We've got a private members bill in
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  Speaker 3: the Biscuit team from Ryan Hamilton, a very good one
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  Speaker 3: that he's brought forward, which is a move on order
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  Speaker 3: which gives the police the ability to go and pick
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  Speaker 3: someone up that is living on the street, that is
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  Speaker 3: in danger, that it is current problems for members of
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  Speaker 3: the public and move them to a safe location with
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  Speaker 3: them to a.
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  Speaker 2: House, not to the next minister. I hope we have
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  Speaker 2: to leave it there. I appreciate your time this morning.
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  Speaker 2: That is Mark Mitchell, Policemanister.
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