Latest / My Veterinary Life / Confident by choice with Juan Bendaña, 2027 VLC keynote speaker
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- 0:10Speaker 1: Welcome to this week's episode of the My Veterinary Life podcast.
- 0:13Speaker 1: I'm your host, Dr. Annie Chavant, and my pronouns are she, her.
- 0:17Speaker 1: And our guest today is Juan Bindania. Juan is a
- 0:20Speaker 1: sought-after speaker on confidence, leadership, and peak performance, and the
- 0:24Speaker 1: author of Confident by Choice. He'll be the keynote speaker
- 0:27Speaker 1: for the 2027 AVMA Veterinary Leadership Conference and hosted by
- 0:31Speaker 1: VLC presenting partner, Zoetis. I am so excited to share
- 0:35Speaker 1: one story today, but before we do, I want to
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- 1:29Speaker 1: for more information. And with that, welcome to the show, Juan.
- 1:33Speaker 2: Andy, thank you so much for having me. I'm pumped
- 1:36Speaker 2: to be here. It's going to be great.
- 1:38Speaker 1: It is going to be great. Really looking forward to
- 1:40Speaker 1: our conversation. We're going to do something a little bit
- 1:43Speaker 1: different on the show today that I'm really looking forward to.
- 1:45Speaker 1: But before we do that, I want to provide a
- 1:48Speaker 1: little bit of background for our listeners. So I'm going
- 1:51Speaker 1: to ask you, who are you and what are you about?
- 1:55Speaker 2: My name's Juan Bendania and originally born in Toronto, Canada,
- 2:00Speaker 2: but my family's from Nicaragua. So my first language is Spanish.
- 2:03Speaker 2: And as a kid, what I was about was wanting
- 2:07Speaker 2: to fit in and wanting to be accepted by everyone.
- 2:11Speaker 2: So I realized I sort of became a chameleon that
- 2:13Speaker 2: didn't fit into one box. I'd fit into every box.
- 2:16Speaker 2: And over the years that led me to then be fascinated,
- 2:20Speaker 2: borderline obsessed with this idea of how do we build
- 2:24Speaker 2: a How do we build confidence in ourselves? How do
- 2:27Speaker 2: we inspire confidence in other people? And present day, I
- 2:31Speaker 2: guess the official term is speaker, that I go to conferences, organizations,
- 2:36Speaker 2: associations around the world, sharing ideas of how to build
- 2:40Speaker 2: a level of confidence within ourselves and how to inspire
- 2:43Speaker 2: it in others. And now living in Miami, Florida, and
- 2:46Speaker 2: have a cockapoo that is about to turn five named Brody.
- 2:51Speaker 2: And my fiance and I are planning our wedding. So
- 2:53Speaker 2: that is what we are about in this season. So
- 2:55Speaker 2: things are good.
- 2:56Speaker 1: Things are good. I love that answer. A little bit
- 2:58Speaker 1: of background, a little bit of current day. And I
- 3:01Speaker 1: think many of our listeners, I know myself included, can
- 3:04Speaker 1: relate to that people pleasing or wanting to fit in
- 3:08Speaker 1: and then feeling that tension sometimes when you can lose
- 3:11Speaker 1: yourself and trying to chameleon, like you said. So I
- 3:16Speaker 1: think the topics that you specialize on in your speaking commitments,
- 3:21Speaker 1: will resonate well with our veterinary listeners. And so that's
- 3:25Speaker 1: what I want to focus our episode on, actually. You
- 3:30Speaker 1: are not a veterinary-specific speaker. In fact, you've researched over 250,000
- 3:34Speaker 1: leaders and spoken to folks. and companies from Amazon to Zillow.
- 3:41Speaker 1: So we want to channel that knowledge and distill it
- 3:45Speaker 1: and apply it to veterinarians today. And I want to
- 3:49Speaker 1: do that with some recurring themes that I'm hearing on
- 3:52Speaker 1: the podcast. We're going to put you in the hot
- 3:55Speaker 1: seat and see your take on some of the burning
- 3:58Speaker 1: questions in vet med today. So how does that sound?
- 4:01Speaker 2: Let's do it. Love it.
- 4:03Speaker 1: All right. It's an early career podcast and something that's
- 4:07Speaker 1: on a lot of folks' mind is that student to
- 4:08Speaker 1: veterinarian transition. Part of the reason that it can be
- 4:12Speaker 1: challenging from what we hear from folks is that up
- 4:15Speaker 1: to that point in vet school graduation, the path was
- 4:19Speaker 1: very clearly defined for us, right? We got to get
- 4:21Speaker 1: into undergrad. We need to get good grades. We get
- 4:24Speaker 1: the veterinary experience. We get into vet school. Check, check, check, check.
- 4:29Speaker 1: And then we finally get there. We get the diploma
- 4:31Speaker 1: and the path is really wide open. which can be
- 4:35Speaker 1: a little bit intimidating after so many years of checking
- 4:37Speaker 1: those boxes. So what advice do you have for defining
- 4:41Speaker 1: success for ourselves and then actually achieving those goals for success?
- 4:47Speaker 2: I think early on, we believe that clarity is a
- 4:52Speaker 2: prerequisite for action. And I think many people have this
- 4:55Speaker 2: backward where we think we need to know exactly the
- 5:00Speaker 2: path ahead in order to pursue it. We need to know.
- 5:04Speaker 2: the goal before taking any steps toward it. And because when, especially,
- 5:09Speaker 2: you know, when we're going through and we're in school
- 5:12Speaker 2: and we're being told, this is the path and this
- 5:14Speaker 2: is what you need to do. And this is when
- 5:15Speaker 2: you need to be in class and here's the exam
- 5:17Speaker 2: and here's everything you need to do. Then you get
- 5:20Speaker 2: thrust into the real world and it's like, wait, I
- 5:24Speaker 2: need business skills. wait, I need to learn how to
- 5:27Speaker 2: lead other people. And there's so many question marks around
- 5:31Speaker 2: all of that. So I think the first thing is
- 5:33Speaker 2: understanding that clarity does not need to come first. You
- 5:37Speaker 2: can decide that I'm going to take action before I
- 5:40Speaker 2: have all of the answers and the entire picture played out.
- 5:44Speaker 2: That isn't to say that you don't need clarity. You
- 5:47Speaker 2: do need a vision of like, this is where I
- 5:48Speaker 2: want to go. But many people wait to have all
- 5:52Speaker 2: of the answers and wait to feel ready in order
- 5:57Speaker 2: to move forward. So that's the first thing. The second
- 5:58Speaker 2: thing that I'd say is that the uncertainty or the
- 6:04Speaker 2: self-doubt or the, I don't know what I'm doing here,
- 6:07Speaker 2: is actually an opportunity to grow. It is not a
- 6:11Speaker 2: sign to stop. What we've found in the research of
- 6:14Speaker 2: confidence is that one of the common through lines is
- 6:17Speaker 2: that confident people do not see self-doubt as a sign
- 6:20Speaker 2: to stop. or as a sign that they're on the
- 6:23Speaker 2: wrong track. They see it as a signal to grow.
- 6:27Speaker 2: So I think self-doubt or worry or uncertainty can actually
- 6:30Speaker 2: be a signal to say, oh, this is an area
- 6:32Speaker 2: where I can improve. This is where I could actually
- 6:35Speaker 2: get better. So I think it's defining what kind of
- 6:39Speaker 2: growth do I want to have? What kind of growth
- 6:42Speaker 2: do I want to experience, both professionally and personally? And
- 6:45Speaker 2: then what are the actions I need to take in
- 6:47Speaker 2: order to make that happen? You do not need all
- 6:51Speaker 2: of the answers. You need some of the information to
- 6:55Speaker 2: then move forward. And you know, you mentioned Amazon, Jeff
- 6:57Speaker 2: Bezos famously said that I make decisions with, I think
- 7:00Speaker 2: it was 60 or 70% of the information. He's like,
- 7:03Speaker 2: that's been the X factor. Like I make decisions. I
- 7:06Speaker 2: don't wait till I have all the information. I say,
- 7:09Speaker 2: this is kind of roughly where I want to head.
- 7:11Speaker 2: Now let me move in that direction because I think
- 7:14Speaker 2: especially early career, people are so hesitant to make the
- 7:18Speaker 2: wrong choice. which you never know what the wrong choice
- 7:22Speaker 2: is going to be until you make it. And then
- 7:24Speaker 2: you look back and be like, that was a mistake.
- 7:27Speaker 2: You never actually know what the wrong choice is. So
- 7:31Speaker 2: I think what is more valuable is making the choice
- 7:35Speaker 2: and then seeing whether it was right or wrong. Experimenting,
- 7:39Speaker 2: messing up, trying things, moving fast, breaking it, like just
- 7:43Speaker 2: going for it, I think is the energy that more
- 7:46Speaker 2: people could definitely benefit on, especially early on in their career.
- 7:51Speaker 1: That's so great for us to hear. You said, don't
- 7:55Speaker 1: wait to feel ready. Clarity is not a prerequisite. And
- 7:59Speaker 1: self-doubt can actually be a signal to us that instead
- 8:02Speaker 1: of shying away from those opportunities that make us feel
- 8:05Speaker 1: that way, maybe it's that chance to turn the other
- 8:09Speaker 1: way and see it as an opportunity for growth. And
- 8:12Speaker 1: I know that in particular... I would say veterinarians do
- 8:19Speaker 1: have a diversion to making mistakes. And I don't know
- 8:22Speaker 1: if that is because we've been in school for so
- 8:23Speaker 1: long and our success has been measured on the answers
- 8:27Speaker 1: to multiple choice questions or what it is, but there
- 8:30Speaker 1: is that fear of making mistakes as a significant barrier
- 8:32Speaker 1: to that experimentation mindset. But the other thing that I
- 8:36Speaker 1: thought was interesting as you were talking about that is
- 8:39Speaker 1: we're actually trained to make decisions with our patients with
- 8:43Speaker 1: incomplete information. We don't always have the means or the
- 8:48Speaker 1: ability to do a full diagnostic workup, and we still
- 8:51Speaker 1: need to figure out what's best for our patient. So
- 8:53Speaker 1: we have those skills. And I think it's interesting that
- 8:57Speaker 1: you are encouraging us to use the skills that we
- 8:59Speaker 1: are developing and have developed in school and apply it
- 9:02Speaker 1: to our professional development as well. I love that.
- 9:05Speaker 2: Yeah, 100%. It is a lot of times common knowledge
- 9:09Speaker 2: is not common practice. And we know what we should do.
- 9:13Speaker 2: But what holds us back from doing it? It's the fear.
- 9:16Speaker 2: It's the what if I mess up? It's the aversion,
- 9:18Speaker 2: like you said, to making mistakes. It's like, but what
- 9:21Speaker 2: if this doesn't go well? It's like there comes risk.
- 9:24Speaker 2: There's an inherent risk to growth. You cannot grow if
- 9:27Speaker 2: you have 100% guaranteed control of the variables. There has
- 9:32Speaker 2: to be a level of risk that you put on
- 9:35Speaker 2: the line to say, like, I'm going to try this.
- 9:36Speaker 2: It might work. It might not. But I'm going to
- 9:38Speaker 2: go for it. So, yeah.
- 9:41Speaker 1: And I think that ties in quite well to the
- 9:45Speaker 1: next area that I would love to get your thoughts on,
- 9:48Speaker 1: and that is career transitions. So almost every single person
- 9:55Speaker 1: that we've had on the podcast for the past seven
- 9:57Speaker 1: years has a story about a career transition that they've
- 10:01Speaker 1: been through during their professional life. And I think that
- 10:05Speaker 1: sometimes when we're listening to them on a podcast or
- 10:07Speaker 1: hearing somebody else talk about their story, it sounds... easier.
- 10:12Speaker 1: It sounds like the pieces of the puzzle fell in place,
- 10:15Speaker 1: but the reality is when we're the one in the
- 10:17Speaker 1: driver's seat, it can be really difficult to make a
- 10:21Speaker 1: change and a change of that magnitude, especially. So what
- 10:26Speaker 1: are your thoughts on why change is so hard and
- 10:29Speaker 1: what can we do to improve that?
- 10:33Speaker 2: I think it's less about the change and more about
- 10:37Speaker 2: what the change is going to result in. You know,
- 10:39Speaker 2: people say people don't like change. It's like, you don't
- 10:41Speaker 2: like change you don't like. Like you would like change
- 10:44Speaker 2: in your bank account if it was heading in the
- 10:46Speaker 2: right direction. You know, you'd like change on the scale
- 10:49Speaker 2: if it's heading in the right direction. So I think
- 10:53Speaker 2: it's change that creates a level of uncertainty of, am
- 10:57Speaker 2: I going to be worse off because of this change?
- 11:00Speaker 2: So I think the mindset shift needs to be, I
- 11:04Speaker 2: am looking forward to what this will result in. I'm
- 11:08Speaker 2: excited to see where this ends up. Because if you
- 11:14Speaker 2: approach it with that mindset, if you approach it with
- 11:16Speaker 2: the mindset of, I don't know what's going to happen here,
- 11:19Speaker 2: but I'm excited to find out, as opposed to, I
- 11:21Speaker 2: have no idea what's going to happen here and I'm
- 11:24Speaker 2: terrified of the outcome. Those are two different worlds. You know,
- 11:28Speaker 2: what's wrong or what's terrifying or what's scary, that's always
- 11:31Speaker 2: available for us to focus on. but so is what's
- 11:35Speaker 2: right and what's good. And I heard this once, I
- 11:37Speaker 2: forget where, I think it may have been like a
- 11:40Speaker 2: Pinterest quote or something like that, but it was the
- 11:42Speaker 2: amount of good things in your life come down to
- 11:44Speaker 2: your ability to notice them. And the challenge is most
- 11:47Speaker 2: people only notice the bad things in their lives. They
- 11:49Speaker 2: only notice the stress. They only notice the anxiety. They
- 11:52Speaker 2: only notice how things are going wrong, how this change
- 11:55Speaker 2: is going to result in an outcome we don't want.
- 11:58Speaker 2: And I think that's an opportunity for us to be
- 12:00Speaker 2: able to say, I'm going to focus on best case scenario.
- 12:04Speaker 2: I'm going to focus on what this change can provide
- 12:08Speaker 2: in terms of my trajectory and the goals that I have.
- 12:11Speaker 2: So I think it's less about the change itself and
- 12:14Speaker 2: it's more about the perspective we have of it.
- 12:17Speaker 1: Yes, that makes sense. And the reframe and the mental
- 12:22Speaker 1: exercise of asking ourselves those questions about okay, we've identified
- 12:26Speaker 1: the worst case scenario. That's probably our reflex reaction. But
- 12:29Speaker 1: what else is out there and what possibilities can I
- 12:32Speaker 1: explore that may actually be better than my baseline? But
- 12:37Speaker 1: I do have a follow-up question on that in terms
- 12:40Speaker 1: of internalizing the mindset change. Because sometimes it's something that
- 12:45Speaker 1: I struggle with and something that I hear other folks
- 12:47Speaker 1: struggle with is I can say... the positive thing, or
- 12:53Speaker 1: I can think about those things on a surface level,
- 12:56Speaker 1: but the internal resistance or those barriers are still there
- 13:02Speaker 1: in the undercurrent. Do you have any advice for taking
- 13:06Speaker 1: that mindset shift from surface level to really believing and
- 13:10Speaker 1: feeling that in our core?
- 13:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's value in positive thinking and in
- 13:16Speaker 2: believing in the best case scenario and all that sort
- 13:18Speaker 2: of stuff. But then that voice in your head, that
- 13:21Speaker 2: tells you this isn't going to work out or that
- 13:23Speaker 2: inner critic can still be there and it can still
- 13:27Speaker 2: be pretty loud. So I think instead of trying to
- 13:30Speaker 2: eliminate it, it's about building a better relationship with it.
- 13:33Speaker 2: One of the foremost happiness researchers in the world, he
- 13:36Speaker 2: basically founded the body of work around positive psychology. He
- 13:40Speaker 2: was the one that coined that, you know, a few
- 13:42Speaker 2: decades ago. He talks about this idea that your anxiety
- 13:46Speaker 2: or your fear or your worry, it's about building a
- 13:50Speaker 2: relationship with that and then having the conversation with it saying, stress,
- 13:54Speaker 2: what is making you stressed? Anxiety, what is making you
- 13:57Speaker 2: feel anxious? Worry, what is making you feel worried? So
- 14:00Speaker 2: you sort of dissociate yourself from that emotion. So I
- 14:03Speaker 2: think the first is building a better relationship with that
- 14:07Speaker 2: voice in your head because a lot of people run
- 14:08Speaker 2: away from it. And the thing is that it will
- 14:11Speaker 2: catch you and it is faster than you are and
- 14:14Speaker 2: it will outrun you every day of the week. So
- 14:16Speaker 2: instead of trying to eliminate negative thoughts, it's about acknowledging
- 14:20Speaker 2: them and understanding these thoughts are here and the mindsets
- 14:23Speaker 2: are there. Now it's about building a better relationship with
- 14:26Speaker 2: them and then deciding consciously to focus on something else.
- 14:30Speaker 2: Not meaning that they're going to be eliminated. It's just
- 14:33Speaker 2: I'm going to work toward overpowering them with the good.
- 14:37Speaker 2: 80% of the thoughts we have every single day are negative.
- 14:41Speaker 2: 95% of them are repeated from yesterday. So our brains
- 14:44Speaker 2: have a negativity bias that is wired to focus on
- 14:47Speaker 2: what's wrong and it looks for what is wrong with
- 14:49Speaker 2: us most of the time. So those 12 to 60,000
- 14:53Speaker 2: thoughts we have a day, 80% of them being negative,
- 14:56Speaker 2: we got to fight for that 20%. We have to
- 14:59Speaker 2: fight for the good, not saying that these things are
- 15:01Speaker 2: going to magically disappear, but at least we have a
- 15:04Speaker 2: better relationship with it. Every single morning when I wake up,
- 15:08Speaker 2: I hate everything. It is just a pity party for one.
- 15:11Speaker 2: And then I realize that and bring awareness to that.
- 15:16Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, my mind is so interesting that
- 15:18Speaker 2: it goes there because in the morning we have like
- 15:20Speaker 2: no filter. So I'm like, but how do I want
- 15:23Speaker 2: to feel today? What do I want to think about today?
- 15:26Speaker 2: And then really important is what actions are going to
- 15:29Speaker 2: align me with that feeling. So I'm going to go
- 15:32Speaker 2: work out. I'm going to be in gratitude. I'm going
- 15:34Speaker 2: to be present. I'm going to be engaged. I'm going
- 15:36Speaker 2: to be focused. What are the emotions that are going
- 15:38Speaker 2: to align with that ultimate feeling that I want? Because
- 15:43Speaker 2: a lot of people are like, I'm tired. They go
- 15:45Speaker 2: sit on a couch, eat a bag of chips and
- 15:46Speaker 2: watch a full season of something. That is not the strategy.
- 15:51Speaker 2: So if you want to feel different, you got to
- 15:52Speaker 2: do something different so that we can act as our
- 15:56Speaker 2: own override switch for when we're not feeling the best
- 16:00Speaker 2: so that we can feel a little better.
- 16:03Speaker 1: Oh, thank you for elaborating on that extra layer and
- 16:08Speaker 1: how to be pragmatic about it because just stifling those
- 16:13Speaker 1: voices do not make them go away. And so that acknowledgement,
- 16:17Speaker 1: and I love your phrasing there and Dr. Solomon's phrasing
- 16:20Speaker 1: of the relationship with those negative thoughts and feelings. And
- 16:24Speaker 1: I working with them instead of pretending that they do
- 16:29Speaker 1: not exist. I think that's a really practical application that
- 16:32Speaker 1: we can apply to our conversations, both internal and external,
- 16:38Speaker 1: about career transitions and other aspects of both our professional
- 16:41Speaker 1: and personal lives. And so my last hot seat question
- 16:46Speaker 1: for you today also has to do with that intersection
- 16:50Speaker 1: of professional and personal life. We learned from the beginning
- 16:54Speaker 1: of this conversation that you have a lot going on
- 16:57Speaker 1: both personally and professionally. A lot of us do as well.
- 17:01Speaker 1: We frequently hear on the show of folks who have
- 17:05Speaker 1: some combination of a full-time job, a partner, a family,
- 17:08Speaker 1: a volunteer position, or two or three, a side project,
- 17:13Speaker 1: a consulting role, hobbies, all of these things. And we
- 17:17Speaker 1: like to stay busy, but that does present a challenge
- 17:22Speaker 1: in and of itself. So what are your thoughts on
- 17:25Speaker 1: how to handle it all, how to do it all,
- 17:28Speaker 1: or maybe not handle it all or do it all?
- 17:32Speaker 2: I think many people sort of put the weight of
- 17:35Speaker 2: the world on their shoulders forgetting that they can put
- 17:38Speaker 2: some things down. And it's metaphorically when people, I don't
- 17:43Speaker 2: know if anyone else does this. I know I do.
- 17:45Speaker 2: When you go to the grocery store and you do
- 17:47Speaker 2: a little grocery haul and there's like five or six
- 17:49Speaker 2: bags and you are determined to make one trip. Into
- 17:53Speaker 2: the house. Because two trips, you would just be an
- 17:55Speaker 2: utter failure. So you need to load up your arms
- 17:58Speaker 2: like all of the workouts you have done have led
- 18:00Speaker 2: up to this moment. And then you're getting inside and
- 18:03Speaker 2: then ultimately, you know, one of the handles breaks and
- 18:06Speaker 2: then you drop something. And I feel like that's what
- 18:08Speaker 2: most people are doing with their lives. They try and
- 18:12Speaker 2: stack their work and then their relationship with their spouse
- 18:16Speaker 2: and then their kids. and then the volunteerism, and then
- 18:20Speaker 2: their own personal goals, and that Ironman they want to run.
- 18:24Speaker 2: They're stacking all of these things, and of course they're
- 18:27Speaker 2: going to feel overwhelmed, and it's going to feel daunting. So,
- 18:30Speaker 2: with every area of your life, focusing on the compounding
- 18:33Speaker 2: effect of growth, not these massive leaps that so many
- 18:37Speaker 2: people try and reach for. I don't think it is
- 18:40Speaker 2: valuable to do this almost 30-day challenge of I'm gonna
- 18:44Speaker 2: go hard for 30 days and I'm gonna become a
- 18:47Speaker 2: new version. There's two different types of goals. There are
- 18:51Speaker 2: finish line goals and there are transformation goals. Finish line
- 18:54Speaker 2: goals are basically a 30-day challenge. After day 30, you
- 18:59Speaker 2: are done. It's finished. You made it. You did it.
- 19:02Speaker 2: And I had a friend that did this 75 day
- 19:04Speaker 2: challenge called 75 hard, where it's basically like two workouts
- 19:08Speaker 2: a day, 10 pages of reading, no cheap meals, a
- 19:12Speaker 2: liter of water, basically no joy for 75 days. Like
- 19:16Speaker 2: it is crazy. And he did it. And he was like,
- 19:18Speaker 2: I want to challenge this. I want to push myself
- 19:20Speaker 2: on day 76, he ate a tub of ice cream.
- 19:22Speaker 1: Why?
- 19:23Speaker 2: Because the goal was to cross the finish line, not
- 19:25Speaker 2: real transformation, transformation goals, are goals that move you toward
- 19:30Speaker 2: the kind of person you want to be, which that
- 19:33Speaker 2: comes from incremental improvements. I talk about this idea of
- 19:36Speaker 2: getting 1% better a day. In a year, you're 37
- 19:39Speaker 2: times better. Just 1%. So I tell people, it's like, okay,
- 19:43Speaker 2: what is your 1% better? Maybe it's not completely revamping
- 19:47Speaker 2: your workout plan and be doing paleo forever. Maybe it's
- 19:51Speaker 2: a 20 minute walk in the morning instead of scrolling
- 19:54Speaker 2: for 20 minutes. Maybe it is spending more intentional time
- 19:58Speaker 2: with your friends at dinner, as opposed to all being
- 20:01Speaker 2: at the table, being on your phones. It's the little
- 20:04Speaker 2: shifts that make the biggest difference. And I think if
- 20:06Speaker 2: more people took the time to focus on those little shifts,
- 20:09Speaker 2: they'd be way better off because of Yeah.
- 20:13Speaker 1: I hear that. I think it's appealing to pick a
- 20:17Speaker 1: concrete finish line goal. Our brains are sort of wired
- 20:21Speaker 1: to like that. It's not as jazzy to make a
- 20:24Speaker 1: 1% difference. But what I'm hearing you say is that's
- 20:29Speaker 1: where the real change happens or where the sustainable change happens.
- 20:33Speaker 1: And so I think I'm going to combine some lessons
- 20:37Speaker 1: from our previous answers into my takeaway for this one
- 20:40Speaker 1: of thinking about that mindset shift of why am I
- 20:45Speaker 1: attracted to the bigger goals and what can I do
- 20:49Speaker 1: to keep myself motivated and focus on that 1% to
- 20:53Speaker 1: make the change? Absolutely. Well, you've given us so much
- 20:58Speaker 1: to think about already, and we will have the opportunity
- 21:01Speaker 1: to learn more and actually meet you in person at
- 21:05Speaker 1: the 2027 AVMA Veterinary Leadership Conference coming up on January
- 21:09Speaker 1: 7th to 9th in Chicago. So what specifically will you
- 21:14Speaker 1: be talking about at VLC, and why did you pick those,
- 21:18Speaker 1: or why does it matter so much to you to
- 21:20Speaker 1: want to talk to us about?
- 21:22Speaker 2: Yeah, VLC, the main theme is going to be how
- 21:26Speaker 2: do we step, especially being at the beginning of the year,
- 21:29Speaker 2: it's going to be how do we step into a
- 21:31Speaker 2: deeper level of belief in a better future for ourselves,
- 21:36Speaker 2: for the people we get to serve, for our careers,
- 21:40Speaker 2: for our families, for our friends? How do we build
- 21:44Speaker 2: a belief in a better future? Because I think right
- 21:46Speaker 2: now a lot of people are afraid. of what is
- 21:49Speaker 2: to come, of what AI is going to do to
- 21:53Speaker 2: the world, with all of these CEOs saying that AI
- 21:56Speaker 2: is going to kill us all in 10 years. There's
- 21:59Speaker 2: this fear and this heaviness in the world right now.
- 22:01Speaker 2: And I think the ultimate opportunity is for us to
- 22:04Speaker 2: be able to say, I believe there's going to be
- 22:06Speaker 2: a better day tomorrow. I'm going to wake up with
- 22:08Speaker 2: that belief that there's going to be something better, that
- 22:11Speaker 2: I'm going to be a better version of myself tomorrow
- 22:14Speaker 2: than I am today. And that taps into sort of
- 22:16Speaker 2: the conversation we're having around growth mindset. That taps into,
- 22:20Speaker 2: I believe I can be a different version of myself
- 22:22Speaker 2: tomorrow than I am today. And then also what we're
- 22:25Speaker 2: gonna be diving into is how do you inspire belief
- 22:28Speaker 2: in other people? Because it's all trust. Like how do
- 22:31Speaker 2: you get someone to, how do you inspire belief in
- 22:34Speaker 2: a client that walks in with their fur baby and
- 22:39Speaker 2: that you're gonna be the right choice for them? And
- 22:41Speaker 2: then how do you inspire belief In your kids and
- 22:44Speaker 2: in the people in your lives and to gift them
- 22:47Speaker 2: confidence because I think that's one of the biggest opportunities
- 22:49Speaker 2: that we all have to not only build belief for ourselves,
- 22:52Speaker 2: but also to build it within other people. So a
- 22:55Speaker 2: little bit about what we're going to be talking about.
- 22:58Speaker 1: It sounds like we've got a lot to look forward
- 23:00Speaker 1: to and both some applications on a big picture scale
- 23:05Speaker 1: of kind of the state of the world. And then
- 23:07Speaker 1: also what can we do in our little corners of
- 23:09Speaker 1: the world and our spheres of influence? So I am
- 23:12Speaker 1: really looking forward to it. I absolutely cannot wait.
- 23:15Speaker 2: I can't wait. I'm so excited. It's going to be
- 23:17Speaker 2: awesome getting to meet everyone in person. It's going to
- 23:19Speaker 2: be fantastic.
- 23:20Speaker 1: Absolutely. Juan, thank you so much for sharing some time
- 23:24Speaker 1: with us this week. Hopefully this gives a little bit
- 23:26Speaker 1: of a sneak preview of what you're about and gets
- 23:29Speaker 1: folks excited to come join us in Chicago for VLC
- 23:33Speaker 1: coming up soon.
- 23:34Speaker 2: Of course, Annie. Thank you for having me. Thank you
- 23:36Speaker 2: for everyone listening. And I will see you all in
- 23:38Speaker 2: Chicago very soon.
- 23:41Speaker 1: And thank you to each of you for joining us
- 23:42Speaker 1: on this episode of My Veterinary Life Podcast. We love
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