Latest / UK Column Radio / UK Column News — 25th May 2026
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Today is Monday, the twenty fifth of May
- 0:12Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Yourselfter one o'clock. Welcome to UK column News.
- 0:16Speaker 1: I'm your host Brian Gerrish Deloyde to have been rubin
- 0:19Speaker 1: with me in the studio and you've had a pleasant weekend, Ben, I've.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Had a very pleasant weekend Brian. Yeah. I've been day
- 0:26Speaker 2: tripping around South Devon. It's fantastic absolutely with blue sky
- 0:31Speaker 2: and sunshine. Everybody around me at least in a really
- 0:35Speaker 2: great mood. They're pleased to see the sun. They know
- 0:38Speaker 2: it's hot, they know how to cope with it, they
- 0:41Speaker 2: know how to protect their children. So I like the
- 0:44Speaker 2: BBC's message of doom because the sun is out. Most
- 0:49Speaker 2: people around us in Devon had a really spectacle a weekend.
- 0:52Speaker 2: We hope you did as well. Now we've got a
- 0:55Speaker 2: very busy news today. There's a lot happening and it's
- 0:59Speaker 2: going to be focusing on by elections and political maneuvering.
- 1:04Speaker 2: He's also going to be having a look at what
- 1:06Speaker 2: he calls command and control. I'm going to say to me,
- 1:10Speaker 2: this is the bringing in of the new order. It
- 1:13Speaker 2: is visible if you know where to look. But most
- 1:17Speaker 2: people do not realize that there is a massive attack
- 1:20Speaker 2: on the Constitution and the system of law at the moment.
- 1:24Speaker 2: So I think those are going to be two very
- 1:26Speaker 2: interesting segments, Ben, and I'm going to be having a
- 1:29Speaker 2: look at trial by jury under massive attack. I'm also
- 1:34Speaker 2: going to be having a look at the family courts
- 1:37Speaker 2: in that context, and I will be commenting on Ryana
- 1:42Speaker 2: Formick and the trial process around him. We will be
- 1:47Speaker 2: ending today with some lovely slides from the weekend, so
- 1:54Speaker 2: stay with us for that at least. Well, Ben, take
- 1:57Speaker 2: us away. People are very pre optic with the.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Wars overseas at the moment, but done the price of oil,
- 2:04Speaker 1: as I've said, food price is going up. There's something
- 2:07Speaker 1: very devious happening under the surface.
- 2:10Speaker 2: There certainly is, yeah, and the political situation just gets
- 2:14Speaker 2: more and more chaotic. So just this weekend, campaigning is
- 2:19Speaker 2: really kicked into gear for the Makerfield by election up
- 2:22Speaker 2: in the northwest of the UK is coming up on
- 2:24Speaker 2: the eighteenth of June. Candidates have been announced and I'm
- 2:28Speaker 2: actually pleased to see that Alan Howlin, Lord Hope from
- 2:32Speaker 2: the Monster Raving Looney Party is throwing his hat into
- 2:35Speaker 2: the ring. And do you think it's time for them
- 2:37Speaker 2: to step forward into government. Brian, Well, of.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Course this has been going on for many years and
- 2:44Speaker 1: most people regard it as good of fun during election periods.
- 2:48Speaker 1: But I have said in twenty twenty six, perhaps the
- 2:51Speaker 1: Mons Raving Looney party is very pertinent. There's very accurate
- 2:56Speaker 1: as the situation we find out.
- 2:58Speaker 2: So yeah, you could use that name to describe any
- 3:01Speaker 2: of the main political parties. Obviously the big hitters are
- 3:04Speaker 2: there too. This is has been widely reported an opportunity
- 3:08Speaker 2: for Andy Burnham to throw his hat into the ring,
- 3:12Speaker 2: potentially to make a leadership bid for the Labor Party
- 3:15Speaker 2: to become the next prime minister. Potentially he's put his
- 3:18Speaker 2: name forward. He's currently polling in the lead at forty
- 3:21Speaker 2: three percent, against Reform at forty percent and Restore Britain
- 3:25Speaker 2: actually coming in third at the moment around nine percent
- 3:28Speaker 2: in current polls. But let's just remind ourselves about Andy
- 3:32Speaker 2: Burnham's thoughts on vaccine passports. Would you be happy carrying
- 3:37Speaker 2: a vaccine passport? Yes, no doubt about it. Absolutely Okay,
- 3:45Speaker 2: So if we need him run in the country, short
- 3:48Speaker 2: and sharp and very scary that somebody should be so
- 3:52Speaker 2: deceived as to what the reality is. Well, yeah, sure,
- 3:56Speaker 2: I mean whether he was deceived or not. I think
- 3:58Speaker 2: he's certainly up for debate for people who don't quite
- 4:01Speaker 2: get the point as it relates to vaccine passports, that
- 4:04Speaker 2: is the digital ID system. Essentially, it's the same technology.
- 4:08Speaker 2: So that's who we potentially got heading into into Westminster,
- 4:12Speaker 2: potentially into Downing Street next, who knows. And Burnham himself
- 4:16Speaker 2: is a very high profile figure nationally. He's currently the
- 4:19Speaker 2: mayor of Greater Manchester, one of the old regions, absolutely
- 4:24Speaker 2: aligned to the Fabian Society. So he's a wolf in
- 4:27Speaker 2: sheep's clothing as they say, and also has a lot
- 4:30Speaker 2: of questions to answer I think about the cover up
- 4:33Speaker 2: of the grim and gangs issue in the Greater Manchester
- 4:35Speaker 2: region over the past ten or fifteen years. So whether
- 4:38Speaker 2: we want this guy leading the country or not is
- 4:42Speaker 2: certainly up for debate. So other people on the ballet
- 4:47Speaker 2: include Peter Ward from Rejoin EU, which seems to be
- 4:53Speaker 2: getting a little bit of traction at the moment. I
- 4:54Speaker 2: bet he's a real who's at parties, isn't he? Peter Ward?
- 4:59Speaker 1: Absolutely, But of course the undertone within labor is very
- 5:03Speaker 1: much that we should be rejoining the European Union. But
- 5:06Speaker 1: the iron ears, as the UK column alone reported, we
- 5:10Speaker 1: achieved Brexit without the exit. We're still effectively in, but
- 5:16Speaker 1: the talk as if no, we're not. And look no
- 5:19Speaker 1: further than military collaboration, military unification with the EU if
- 5:25Speaker 1: you want to understand what this is really about.
- 5:28Speaker 2: Absolutely, and then also of note, we have Restore Britain
- 5:33Speaker 2: embodied by Rebecca Shepherd, who is hoping to become the
- 5:37Speaker 2: second MP for Restore Britain. Obviously the party leader, Rupert Lowe,
- 5:40Speaker 2: is already in Parliament having been elected as a reform candidate.
- 5:45Speaker 2: And we're going to show you now a fantastic piece
- 5:48Speaker 2: of footage captured over the weekend from again a man
- 5:51Speaker 2: called Frank Wright. He was out canvassing for Restore Britain
- 5:56Speaker 2: talking about why he likes Restore and the currents of
- 6:00Speaker 2: the nation and the West more broadly.
- 6:04Speaker 3: Well, you can see that there's obviously, there's the bankruptcy
- 6:08Speaker 3: of the general liberal idea. There's the fact that you
- 6:11Speaker 3: get a sense that the Western idea and the ideas
- 6:13Speaker 3: we've had since the Second World War winding down themselves.
- 6:16Speaker 3: And at the same time you can't escape the fact
- 6:18Speaker 3: that we appear to be morally as well as financially
- 6:20Speaker 3: bankrupt across the West, across Europe and in Britain, that
- 6:23Speaker 3: the whole system is in a form of crisis, if
- 6:26Speaker 3: you like. What we used to call normal life has
- 6:28Speaker 3: been replaced by permanent state of emergency in terms of
- 6:31Speaker 3: our social incohesion, in terms of demographic change, in terms
- 6:35Speaker 3: of the fact that there appear to be no realistic
- 6:36Speaker 3: solutions offered, and whoever you vote for, the same mad
- 6:40Speaker 3: policies get continued throughout your life. And that's what I've
- 6:42Speaker 3: seen in the last thirty years. And if it goes on,
- 6:44Speaker 3: we're finished.
- 6:46Speaker 1: So what does finish look like?
- 6:48Speaker 3: What does finished look like? Finished looked like and economic collapse.
- 6:52Speaker 3: Finish looks like spending all your money on foreign wars
- 6:56Speaker 3: when nothing works in the country. Finish looks like you
- 7:00Speaker 3: can't get a job for being competent. There's no sanity
- 7:03Speaker 3: even in recruitment. We have a competency crisis because, for
- 7:06Speaker 3: increasingly ideological and insane reasons, employment opportunities, even training opportunities,
- 7:11Speaker 3: are restricted.
- 7:12Speaker 1: There's one new.
- 7:14Speaker 3: Story after another about why, for political reasons, we're doing
- 7:18Speaker 3: mad things that bankrupt the country. That basically park people's
- 7:22Speaker 3: careers that exclude talented people of genuine principle from any
- 7:26Speaker 3: area of influence whatsoever, and taking collectively this is the
- 7:30Speaker 3: politics and economics of national suicide.
- 7:32Speaker 1: So it has to stop.
- 7:33Speaker 3: And there's increasingly a sense, not just in Britain but
- 7:36Speaker 3: throughout the West that something has to change. And I
- 7:39Speaker 3: think that's only going to build as we begin to
- 7:42Speaker 3: see the devastating consequences of the latest round of reckless
- 7:46Speaker 3: warmongering in the Middle East, which we should never have
- 7:48Speaker 3: been involved in. But we're all going to have to
- 7:50Speaker 3: live with those consequences, and from this summer on we're
- 7:53Speaker 3: going to see how bitter they are. And it's only
- 7:55Speaker 3: going to get worse unless we change the system. And
- 7:58Speaker 3: there's no real change that's offered by the parties of
- 8:02Speaker 3: the force consensus that was the liberal establishment after the
- 8:05Speaker 3: Second World War, and it doesn't work anymore, and it
- 8:08Speaker 3: hasn't produced the utopia it's promised. It's produced a sort
- 8:11Speaker 3: of hell on Earth.
- 8:15Speaker 2: Extraordinary off the car remarks there from Frank Wright.
- 8:18Speaker 1: And that says that the man has been thinking for
- 8:21Speaker 1: a very long time. He's got all of his thoughts organized.
- 8:25Speaker 1: He understands what he's looking at. Of course, this is
- 8:27Speaker 1: the sort of man that the BBC would hate automatically
- 8:31Speaker 1: and not give him any sort of platform. Wouldn't it
- 8:34Speaker 1: be wonderful if that opinion could be taken across society
- 8:39Speaker 1: in a wider form. Instead of people being in their
- 8:43Speaker 1: respective right wing left wing camps, we actually start to
- 8:46Speaker 1: focus on the actual problems and the people causing those problems.
- 8:51Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, We'll provide a link to go and watch
- 8:54Speaker 2: the full video. It's about thirteen minutes long. And I
- 8:57Speaker 2: agree with pretty much everything that he says in the video,
- 9:00Speaker 2: apart from his belief that Restore Britain is the only answer,
- 9:04Speaker 2: and I've talked about Restore Britain a lot. I don't
- 9:06Speaker 2: believe there's a political solution, and actually I do have
- 9:09Speaker 2: to point out there are some very odd things going
- 9:11Speaker 2: on in Restore Britain at the moment, in the very
- 9:14Speaker 2: center of the party. So, first of all, this guy
- 9:17Speaker 2: appeared sometime in the past couple of weeks. It's been
- 9:20Speaker 2: noted that Scott Benton, who is a disgraced former Tory
- 9:23Speaker 2: MP who was forced out due to his involvement with
- 9:26Speaker 2: the gambling industry, he's now running campaign operations for Restore.
- 9:30Speaker 2: He's very heavily influenced by Israel. Not just standing by
- 9:34Speaker 2: the flag, but you can actually see he has the
- 9:37Speaker 2: word Israel tattooed on his body there down by his
- 9:41Speaker 2: left hip. On the right side of the images we're
- 9:43Speaker 2: looking at this. Also he has Messiah of Zion and
- 9:46Speaker 2: ball tattooed on his arm, which means overseer.
- 9:51Speaker 1: And he's proud of this enough to have this image
- 9:54Speaker 1: on his own feed.
- 9:56Speaker 2: On his own social media. I think it's just from
- 9:57Speaker 2: his Instagram account. Yeah. Absolutely, our worship involved human sacrifice, right,
- 10:03Speaker 2: so it's a really extraordinary thing to see on anyone,
- 10:05Speaker 2: tasted on anybody, let alone inside of the Nationalist political party.
- 10:09Speaker 2: Seems very very old to.
- 10:10Speaker 1: Me, even as black humor.
- 10:12Speaker 2: It's yeah, nothing funny about it, so absolutely absolutely so,
- 10:17Speaker 2: you know, I think some questions there and a lot
- 10:19Speaker 2: of questions being asked about this on social media over
- 10:23Speaker 2: the weekend. And also just worth noting that Elon Musk
- 10:26Speaker 2: is absolutely piled in behind Restore Britain. He's been sharing
- 10:30Speaker 2: videos from Rupert Low. Actually during the council elections, he
- 10:33Speaker 2: provided some tesla's so the Low and team could drive
- 10:38Speaker 2: around Yarmouth. And I just think it's worth pointing out
- 10:41Speaker 2: that Musk has been predicting a second Civil war in
- 10:44Speaker 2: the UK for the past two years, very vocally, and
- 10:49Speaker 2: he's promoting Rupert Lowe as a preferred candidate. And Lowe
- 10:56Speaker 2: appears to be very o fay with the First Civil War,
- 11:01Speaker 2: British Civil War, that period of history, because we actually
- 11:03Speaker 2: see in his own private office at the absolute center,
- 11:07Speaker 2: at the pinnacle at the top of the back wall,
- 11:08Speaker 2: there is an engraving titled the Emblem of England's Distractions
- 11:14Speaker 2: from sixteen fifty eight, which shows Oliver Cromwell as Lord Protector,
- 11:19Speaker 2: and this appears to be Hulo is looking up to
- 11:24Speaker 2: Well trying to emulate. I don't know, it's difficult to say,
- 11:27Speaker 2: but it's certainly in a prize position there in his
- 11:29Speaker 2: own personal office, and.
- 11:31Speaker 1: That's exactly right prize position where it can be seen immediately.
- 11:35Speaker 2: By those who know what it is, because actually took
- 11:38Speaker 2: us a while to work out what that image is.
- 11:40Speaker 2: It took us a good few days to find it.
- 11:43Speaker 2: And I think it's important to note that Cromwell did
- 11:47Speaker 2: a number of quite significant things. He beheaded the King
- 11:50Speaker 2: he decimated the church, he allowed freemasonry to flourish in England,
- 11:54Speaker 2: He essentially laid the foundations for the City of London,
- 11:57Speaker 2: led British Empire, and also sparked a civil conflict that
- 12:02Speaker 2: killed around four percent of the population, which in modern
- 12:04Speaker 2: terms will be about two point four million people.
- 12:07Speaker 1: Yeah, the casualties in the Civil War absolutely horrific. And
- 12:12Speaker 1: the other thing to remember, of course, was interesting history
- 12:16Speaker 1: around who was actually funding him to allow this to happen.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, So let's just hope that mister Lowe isn't
- 12:23Speaker 2: trying to emulate the Lord Protector in that regard. And
- 12:26Speaker 2: the polls open on Dune the eighteenth.
- 12:29Speaker 1: No, we're just to add to that little bit of
- 12:31Speaker 1: segment that we realize many people desperate to actually stop
- 12:36Speaker 1: the breakdown which is happening, which that gentleman talked about
- 12:39Speaker 1: on the street, and they're involved with smaller parties. We
- 12:43Speaker 1: think the rule is that if you're involved with the party,
- 12:46Speaker 1: then make sure you're paying attention to what your own
- 12:50Speaker 1: party is doing at the same time that you are
- 12:54Speaker 1: calling out people in the established parties. As long as
- 12:58Speaker 1: those two things go hand in glove, it works very
- 13:01Speaker 1: well well. Let's come on to the subject of trial
- 13:06Speaker 1: by jury and the law. And over the weekend I
- 13:09Speaker 1: was very interested, a lot of people getting very interested
- 13:12Speaker 1: in this Guardian article which will pop up on streen
- 13:16Speaker 1: on screen. So the headline is new breed of political
- 13:19Speaker 1: prisoner arises in Britain as anti protest sentences rise. But
- 13:24Speaker 1: if we focus in a little bit on the sub headline,
- 13:29Speaker 1: it says more people are being jailed in England and
- 13:32Speaker 1: Wales as a result of acting to prevent climate breakdown
- 13:37Speaker 1: and the war in Gaza research reveals. So I was
- 13:41Speaker 1: just fascinated. It was almost as though the Guardian was
- 13:45Speaker 1: putting out a disposed viewpoint of course, that the climate
- 13:49Speaker 1: change is real and if you dare to stand up
- 13:52Speaker 1: against that, you're putting yourself in conflict with the government,
- 13:57Speaker 1: which is right. But there's something strange about this article.
- 14:01Speaker 1: Now when I got into it, this man features a
- 14:04Speaker 1: great deal and basically he's a professor within the Climate
- 14:11Speaker 1: Justice part of Queen's Queen Mary University in London, and
- 14:16Speaker 1: he says these are exceptional sentences that are being used
- 14:20Speaker 1: to apply to protests which are themselves profoundly political. Well,
- 14:26Speaker 1: the interesting thing is people are protesting in the first instance,
- 14:30Speaker 1: because they don't believe the scientific so called scientific message.
- 14:35Speaker 1: But is it political as it progresses, Yes, because the
- 14:39Speaker 1: government is pushing this scientific line, which many would challenge.
- 14:44Speaker 1: But this is what the gentleman says, And if we
- 14:46Speaker 1: go on, he says, it's clear that extreme sentences and
- 14:50Speaker 1: the level of remand detentions before trial at an extreme
- 14:53Speaker 1: level are being used to respond to one category of prisoners,
- 14:57Speaker 1: and that's prisoners who have been detained because they've been
- 15:01Speaker 1: involved in civil disobedience direct action as a result of
- 15:06Speaker 1: political protest. So there's something going on which is profoundly political.
- 15:13Speaker 1: That's absolutely correct. If you challenge the government, you're going
- 15:16Speaker 1: to be in trouble. Very often those protesters reflecting majority
- 15:21Speaker 1: rather than a minority view. And finally, here the real
- 15:26Speaker 1: danger is that you criminalize people for breaching something which
- 15:30Speaker 1: is essentially a civil injunction. Now at this point, the
- 15:34Speaker 1: professor added something else, and immediately I thought of you, Ben,
- 15:39Speaker 1: so let's bring this up on screen. He said that,
- 15:43Speaker 1: So that so that doesn't start as a criminal offense,
- 15:46Speaker 1: but it ends up with a criminal penalty. And that's
- 15:49Speaker 1: very concerning because it means that private companies effectively are
- 15:54Speaker 1: imposing injunctions which lead to large numbers of people going
- 15:59Speaker 1: to jail. So now the system is getting more interwoven,
- 16:05Speaker 1: and it's the companies that are the problem, and they're
- 16:09Speaker 1: imposing injunctions. And as a result of the companies, not
- 16:14Speaker 1: as a result of the government and the system of law,
- 16:17Speaker 1: people are going to jail. So some very interesting comments.
- 16:22Speaker 1: Now Professor David White, apologies I didn't bring his name
- 16:26Speaker 1: up earlier. If you go to the Queen Mary website,
- 16:29Speaker 1: you can find a conversation with David White. He says
- 16:33Speaker 1: he joined the Department of Law in February twenty twenty
- 16:36Speaker 1: two as a professor in climate Justice. We ask him
- 16:41Speaker 1: about his research, his vision for the Center for Climate
- 16:44Speaker 1: Crime and Justice, and what role academic should play in
- 16:47Speaker 1: the fight against the climate crisis and social injustice. Now,
- 16:52Speaker 1: this man is fully committed to the reality of climate change.
- 16:57Speaker 1: So let's bring in some of the texts. Legal questions
- 17:01Speaker 1: are big questions for Richard and I, but also for
- 17:04Speaker 1: everyone who might be involved in a center on climate
- 17:07Speaker 1: crime and climate justice. At the same time, the center
- 17:11Speaker 1: can play an active role in supporting struggles for climate justice.
- 17:16Speaker 1: Climate change has been permitted and indeed encouraged by industrial
- 17:19Speaker 1: processes that are enshrined in and protected by force by law. Again,
- 17:25Speaker 1: we need to be very honest here. This means accepting
- 17:27Speaker 1: that any legal system that has allowed us to get
- 17:31Speaker 1: to this point is a major problem standing in the
- 17:35Speaker 1: way of a sustainable world. So he's saying that climate
- 17:40Speaker 1: change has been encouraged by industrial processes, and to deal
- 17:44Speaker 1: with those corporate interests, we've actually got us change the
- 17:49Speaker 1: system of law itself. And this comes into material that
- 17:55Speaker 1: we're actually covering with escape Key when we were talking
- 17:59Speaker 1: about Epstein a week or so ago. Let's continue on
- 18:03Speaker 1: through with this comment, and he goes on to say this.
- 18:06Speaker 1: The Center's agenda will evolve over the coming months and
- 18:10Speaker 1: will depend on the people who get involved, but certainly
- 18:13Speaker 1: this agenda will need to be will need to directly
- 18:16Speaker 1: challenge a system of law that has encouraged climate change,
- 18:21Speaker 1: and it will need to find ways to support social
- 18:23Speaker 1: movements that seek sustainable alternatives. So this man is not
- 18:28Speaker 1: in the first instance after justice. Let's underline this bit.
- 18:33Speaker 1: We've got to challenge, i e. Change the system of
- 18:37Speaker 1: law which he alleges has encouraged the climate change in
- 18:41Speaker 1: the first place, and then he's going to be supporting
- 18:45Speaker 1: the social movements that seek sustainable alternatives at the same
- 18:50Speaker 1: time as he is supposedly pre protecting people who challenge it.
- 18:55Speaker 2: So totally, everything I agree with will be legal, everything I.
- 18:58Speaker 1: Disagree with will be illegal, because earlier today I was
- 19:02Speaker 1: really struggling with how to explain this message to people.
- 19:08Speaker 1: It's so silky smooth. You can read this article and think, oh, yes,
- 19:14Speaker 1: this man is there for the underdog, the person who's
- 19:17Speaker 1: ended up with a huge prison sentence because they've dared
- 19:21Speaker 1: to challenge the government on climate change. But no, he's
- 19:24Speaker 1: actually working in the background to change the whole system
- 19:28Speaker 1: of law to ensure that the government's policy goes into
- 19:32Speaker 1: play in the first place. Now, within the article Defend
- 19:37Speaker 1: our Juries is mentioned. I went to the website because
- 19:42Speaker 1: these are the people apparently challenging the law that's putting
- 19:46Speaker 1: people in prison. So this is just one image from
- 19:50Speaker 1: the website itself. But let's have a listen to what
- 19:54Speaker 1: Defend our Juries have to say in their own words.
- 20:00Speaker 4: This right in the UK which is really really important
- 20:03Speaker 4: and it's been there since sixteen seventy and it's the
- 20:06Speaker 4: right of juries to acquit a defendant based on their conscience,
- 20:10Speaker 4: so regardless of what a judge thinks, or what the
- 20:14Speaker 4: government of the day thinks, or what the media think,
- 20:16Speaker 4: but on their conscience. And this right is really it's
- 20:21Speaker 4: puts the moral sense of ordinary people at the heart
- 20:24Speaker 4: of our criminal justice system.
- 20:26Speaker 5: The blank balance. At the moment, they're becoming a bit
- 20:28Speaker 5: of a signifier for just how gagged defendants and protests
- 20:31Speaker 5: are becoming across this nation of ours, and indeed across
- 20:34Speaker 5: the rest of the world as well. They're becoming a
- 20:37Speaker 5: symbol of resistance in themselves.
- 20:39Speaker 4: In recent months, a retired social worker in a sixties
- 20:43Speaker 4: held up a sign which was pertaining to that right
- 20:46Speaker 4: of juries to acquit according to their conscience, and she
- 20:49Speaker 4: was arrested by order of a judge and threatened with imprisonment.
- 20:55Speaker 4: And twenty four others since then have been threatened with
- 20:59Speaker 4: the same thing for the same action. So we're here again,
- 21:03Speaker 4: back in greater numbers, to defend that right of juries
- 21:07Speaker 4: and the right to a fair trial.
- 21:09Speaker 6: To me, it isn't about any specific trial.
- 21:12Speaker 5: It's about the wider.
- 21:14Speaker 6: Context of what's happening in this country, in this legal system,
- 21:18Speaker 6: and this real repression that we're.
- 21:20Speaker 7: Seeing, of course obviously deciding they don't like from the verdict.
- 21:25Speaker 1: Now excuse me. What I've got to say here is
- 21:28Speaker 1: what is actually happening is the organization campaigning for juries
- 21:36Speaker 1: do they really understand what's coming because they're in bed
- 21:39Speaker 1: with this professor from Queen Mary who actually is changing
- 21:44Speaker 1: the system to bring in what the climate people are
- 21:49Speaker 1: challenging in the first place. So is this a bona
- 21:52Speaker 1: feidi campaign organization that's been subverted or is this a
- 21:58Speaker 1: joint operation with the universe in order to capture the
- 22:02Speaker 1: type of activists that would support a campaigning against climate change.
- 22:08Speaker 1: My message to the audience is you've got to be
- 22:10Speaker 1: very very careful what's actually happening here now so that
- 22:14Speaker 1: we understand the importance of the jury and as the
- 22:18Speaker 1: lady said, juries are quitting according to their conscience. I'm
- 22:22Speaker 1: just going to bring in this video clip talking about
- 22:26Speaker 1: the history of that particular court case.
- 22:34Speaker 8: I'm now joined by Katie Broomfield, who is a researcher
- 22:37Speaker 8: in history at Royal Hallaway University of London, to find
- 22:40Speaker 8: out more about why pen and Mead's case led to
- 22:42Speaker 8: the establishment of trial by jury So then, Katie, what
- 22:47Speaker 8: happened after pen and Mead were charged?
- 22:49Speaker 6: They appeared in the Old Bailey on the first of
- 22:51Speaker 6: September sixteen seventy. They pleaded not guilty to unlawful assembly,
- 22:55Speaker 6: and their trial before twelve Duramen started straight away.
- 22:59Speaker 8: So if it was pen and Meade who were charged,
- 23:02Speaker 8: why do we call this Bushell's case?
- 23:04Speaker 6: Edward Bushall was one of the men appointed to the
- 23:06Speaker 6: jury to hear the trial of Pen and Meade, and
- 23:08Speaker 6: it was his actions, along with his fellow jurors, which
- 23:11Speaker 6: arguably led to the establishment of the right trial by
- 23:14Speaker 6: jury as we now know it.
- 23:16Speaker 8: What did Busher and his fellow jurymen do well?
- 23:18Speaker 6: In a nutshell? And, to the great annoyance of the court,
- 23:21Speaker 6: the jury refused to find Pen or Meat guilty of
- 23:23Speaker 6: the offense of unlawful assembly under the Conventicle Act, which
- 23:27Speaker 6: was a law that was widely disliked for the restraints
- 23:29Speaker 6: it placed upon civil liberties and religious freedoms.
- 23:32Speaker 2: Look upon the prisoners of the bars, I'll say you,
- 23:36Speaker 2: is William Penn guilty of the matter?
- 23:38Speaker 9: Where all the stands indicted in manner and form or
- 23:40Speaker 9: not guilty.
- 23:42Speaker 5: Guilty of speaking in Gracechurch Street.
- 23:45Speaker 2: Is that all?
- 23:47Speaker 10: So what happened next?
- 23:48Speaker 6: While the judges just refused to accept that verdict.
- 23:51Speaker 9: The law of England will not allow you to part
- 23:53Speaker 9: till you have given in your verdict. We have given
- 23:56Speaker 9: in our verdict and we can give in no other. Gentlemen,
- 24:01Speaker 9: you have not given in your verdict, and you had
- 24:04Speaker 9: as good say nothing. Therefore go and consider it once
- 24:08Speaker 9: more that we may make an end of this troublesome business.
- 24:11Speaker 8: This is a jury amens their verdicts.
- 24:13Speaker 6: No, the jury refused to amend their verdict and that
- 24:16Speaker 6: made the court really angry.
- 24:18Speaker 9: Gentlemen, You shall not be dismissed till we have a
- 24:21Speaker 9: verdict that the court will accept, and you shall be
- 24:24Speaker 9: locked up without meat, drink, fire and tobacco. You shall
- 24:28Speaker 9: not think thus to abuse the court.
- 24:33Speaker 1: So a very simple little clip there. But the key
- 24:35Speaker 1: point is the jury has the power. They can acquit
- 24:38Speaker 1: anybody on their decision. They do not have to adhere
- 24:43Speaker 1: to the law that is in play at the time.
- 24:46Speaker 1: So there's a moral code that can be brought into being.
- 24:51Speaker 1: But of course the judge there, much as the present
- 24:54Speaker 1: day judges, believing that he rules in his own court
- 24:57Speaker 1: now we've popped up on screen. Here comment from an
- 25:02Speaker 1: anonymous judicial spokesperson. This is in relation to the article
- 25:06Speaker 1: about Queen Mary University. Judicial independence and impartiality are fundamental
- 25:12Speaker 1: to the rule of law. Upon taking office, judges take
- 25:16Speaker 1: the judicial oath where they swear to act without fear
- 25:19Speaker 1: or favor affectional ill will. In each case, the judges
- 25:23Speaker 1: make decisions based on the evidence and arguments presented to
- 25:26Speaker 1: them and apply the laws. It stands, so judges are
- 25:30Speaker 1: beyond reproach and trust us. We can run justice. And
- 25:36Speaker 1: if we bring in the next comment they said, or
- 25:40Speaker 1: the spokesperson said, judges and magistrates sentence according to the
- 25:44Speaker 1: law set by Parliament and the sentencing guidelines said by
- 25:48Speaker 1: the Independent Sentencing Council, as well as the facts of
- 25:51Speaker 1: each case which may have aggravating or mitigating factors. Now
- 25:57Speaker 1: that is the claim by the judicial system. We are
- 26:00Speaker 1: squeaky clean, trust us. But of course they're hammering anybody
- 26:04Speaker 1: who's challenging government policy. One more video clip here which
- 26:09Speaker 1: actually gives us real insight into the way judges think
- 26:13Speaker 1: about themselves.
- 26:17Speaker 11: I am the judge and it's my job to interpret
- 26:20Speaker 11: and uphold the law. Other people present during a trial
- 26:25Speaker 11: at the Crown Court are the prosecution barrister and the
- 26:29Speaker 11: defense barrister, usually with solicitors behind them taking notes, and
- 26:36Speaker 11: the jury. The defendant will sit in the dock and
- 26:40Speaker 11: be present during the trial. It is at my discretion
- 26:45Speaker 11: whether or not there is a public gallery. After the
- 26:49Speaker 11: jury has been sworn in, I address them directly. I
- 26:53Speaker 11: inform them that it is for them to decide if
- 26:56Speaker 11: the evidence they are going to hear proves the defendant's guilt.
- 27:00Speaker 11: I also inform them that it is their job to
- 27:03Speaker 11: consider the evidence, not the law, and that I will
- 27:06Speaker 11: guide them if necessary on points of law. If the
- 27:09Speaker 11: defendant is found not guilty, I will release the jury
- 27:13Speaker 11: from the cord. If the defendant is found guilty, I
- 27:17Speaker 11: will move to sentence him. In a straightforward case. It
- 27:20Speaker 11: is likely in that instance that the jury will remain
- 27:23Speaker 11: in court. I may, however, postpone sentencing where other factors
- 27:27Speaker 11: are to be considered. This can be particularly appropriate where
- 27:32Speaker 11: there have been contentious issues, or whether the defendant's background
- 27:36Speaker 11: is likely to have a significant impact on the sentence.
- 27:39Speaker 5: I pass.
- 27:42Speaker 1: So, just to be clear, that's a training video that
- 27:45Speaker 1: isn't a comment treat from in court. Nevertheless, it's pretty
- 27:48Speaker 1: accurate because the judge says, well, I uphold the law.
- 27:51Speaker 1: It completely ignores the role of the jury which can
- 27:54Speaker 1: actually overturn his decisions and this is the key problem.
- 27:58Speaker 1: But will come on to more on the courts and
- 28:01Speaker 1: the attack on our system with common law by looking
- 28:05Speaker 1: at the family courts in a minute and over to
- 28:08Speaker 1: you so much.
- 28:09Speaker 2: To talk about that an extra as well. It's the
- 28:13Speaker 2: way that this is being attached to issues like climate
- 28:15Speaker 2: change as well. I think he's very, very manipulative. So
- 28:19Speaker 2: we're going to head over to the BBC and we've
- 28:22Speaker 2: got a new broom in the top job. Matt Brittain,
- 28:26Speaker 2: former European head of Google, has just started as the
- 28:28Speaker 2: director General and we're excited to show you what he's
- 28:32Speaker 2: been up to in his first week.
- 28:38Speaker 7: I've had the privilege of traveling around on a sort
- 28:40Speaker 7: of speed internship. I'm blown away really by the teamwork
- 28:48Speaker 7: and the collaboration that you see. I can tell that
- 28:53Speaker 7: we've got world class people here and a world class mission.
- 28:57Speaker 7: My question is how together can we re vent the
- 29:00Speaker 7: BBC for the world we're in today.
- 29:21Speaker 2: I think we need to.
- 29:21Speaker 7: Bring together the BBC's incredible storytelling and insight and creativity
- 29:27Speaker 7: to make the case for a BBC that's fit for
- 29:29Speaker 7: today and for tomorrow and for decades to come.
- 29:37Speaker 2: Well that was that made me feel really good. Okay
- 29:42Speaker 2: about a new man in the top job at the
- 29:44Speaker 2: BBC got a lot to do actually, so I think
- 29:46Speaker 2: that he's been giving a target of cutting costs by
- 29:48Speaker 2: about ten percent on top of.
- 29:50Speaker 1: The five hundred million they've already had to get.
- 29:53Speaker 2: Exactly, so what we're going to see that means automation
- 29:55Speaker 2: basically AI getting deployed everywhere, and more job cuts, well
- 30:01Speaker 2: more job cuts and probably just more content. I think
- 30:06Speaker 2: the BBC produced like a week's worth of material every
- 30:11Speaker 2: day or something like that. I mean, it's just this
- 30:13Speaker 2: absolute extrapolating mess of.
- 30:17Speaker 1: Their budgets bigger than ours.
- 30:19Speaker 2: Yeah well again, yeah absolutely so. I don't know. We'll
- 30:23Speaker 2: see how he gets along. I'm interested to follow his progress,
- 30:28Speaker 2: but it strikes me as very much an inside man
- 30:31Speaker 2: establishment man ex Google ex Google was at Google for
- 30:35Speaker 2: fifteen plus years. He was a former Olympic rower before that.
- 30:41Speaker 2: But when he was at Google, he was involved in
- 30:44Speaker 2: setting up the Trusted News initiative During during COVID which
- 30:48Speaker 2: involved the BBC. So is essentially the same crowd of
- 30:51Speaker 2: people just circulating through the top jobs as far as
- 30:54Speaker 2: I can tell. But he does have a big job
- 30:56Speaker 2: on his play regarding the Charter renewal, which is absolutely
- 31:01Speaker 2: up for debate at the moment. And I'm going to
- 31:03Speaker 2: show a short clip now with Alex marn the former
- 31:07Speaker 2: chief executive of Channel four, talking about the BBC and
- 31:11Speaker 2: the Charter in your process to Parliament just a few
- 31:15Speaker 2: days ago.
- 31:17Speaker 12: Thikes, well, I was just going to add to what
- 31:19Speaker 12: Pats saying, and coming from broadcasting, I guess what we're
- 31:22Speaker 12: saying here is it's not so much how do you
- 31:24Speaker 12: protect the BBC, but how do you protect Britain, you know,
- 31:27Speaker 12: and the UK. When we're talking about the BBC and
- 31:30Speaker 12: the news and the information it provides, it's about its
- 31:33Speaker 12: importance to democracy as well as British society, and I
- 31:37Speaker 12: think we're coming from the position that that's it's a
- 31:40Speaker 12: kind of public good, it's a civic essential and to
- 31:43Speaker 12: some degree it's our core national infrastructure and the public
- 31:46Speaker 12: service media system that we have in the UK, as
- 31:49Speaker 12: you've heard from the previous witnesses, is the best in
- 31:52Speaker 12: the world. It's wonderful when Britain's the best in the
- 31:54Speaker 12: world at something anything. But I think the government has
- 31:58Speaker 12: a real opportunity here to ensure that strengthened and to
- 32:02Speaker 12: think about not just what we need to preserve, but
- 32:04Speaker 12: maybe more what we need to build, and to stop
- 32:07Speaker 12: thinking about it as how can they do less or
- 32:10Speaker 12: how can they do better, as to think about what
- 32:12Speaker 12: do we need to build that makes us stronger and
- 32:15Speaker 12: they can do better? And that takes some choices, but
- 32:17Speaker 12: it's really important to think about it in that frame,
- 32:20Speaker 12: and that's why establishing a permanent charter is probably a
- 32:24Speaker 12: critical decision to make and ensuring that the purpose of
- 32:27Speaker 12: the BBC as part of that is clear.
- 32:31Speaker 2: Yes, so permanent charting me is you don't have to
- 32:33Speaker 2: justify your resistance.
- 32:35Speaker 1: Absolutely. You don't want the trouble about actually having to
- 32:38Speaker 1: fight to justify yourself in front of the public who
- 32:41Speaker 1: pay for you. So just get a charter in and
- 32:44Speaker 1: leave it at that.
- 32:45Speaker 2: And come up with some way that you can take
- 32:47Speaker 2: it off council tax or something so that people can't
- 32:49Speaker 2: knock out of it. It's the things they're talking about,
- 32:52Speaker 2: but it's just fascinating to listen to top many of
- 32:54Speaker 2: executives like Alex marn and I'm sure Matt Britain would
- 32:57Speaker 2: agree with pretty much everything that you just said, talking
- 32:59Speaker 2: about the BBC being there to protect Britain, to protect
- 33:03Speaker 2: democracy being a public good. In realities, it's about protecting
- 33:07Speaker 2: the existing power structure. That's what it's there to do, absolutely,
- 33:11Speaker 2: and it has been since its inception.
- 33:13Speaker 1: I would say, yes, so well we just add a
- 33:16Speaker 1: couple of black humor clips. Really this is a Telegraph article.
- 33:20Speaker 1: Apologies Telegraph, I haven't got Oh yeah, it does say
- 33:23Speaker 1: Sunday Telegraph on it. BBC brings in debt collectors to
- 33:29Speaker 1: police license fee, very very aggressive headline. You're in debt
- 33:34Speaker 1: to the BBC and they are going to bring in
- 33:37Speaker 1: people to police you and to claw their money back.
- 33:41Speaker 1: If you want an amusing time, go on to the website.
- 33:45Speaker 1: Go onto the Telegraph website. Have a look at the
- 33:48Speaker 1: comments underneath. The public absolutely hammering the BBC, which is
- 33:54Speaker 1: good to see. And while we are talking to our
- 33:57Speaker 1: audience today saying that there's very dangerous tach going on
- 34:00Speaker 1: in the country, the breakdown of this country, increasing chaos,
- 34:07Speaker 1: what is the BBC's solution while on their website today
- 34:11Speaker 1: it's football. If we are all playing more football, we're
- 34:15Speaker 1: going to be able to deal with everything. So a
- 34:17Speaker 1: new drama, Dear England, drama, a story of real hope.
- 34:21Speaker 1: We're in a situation of utter breakdown, treasoner's criminality in Westminster.
- 34:27Speaker 1: But the BBC says play more football, and of course
- 34:31Speaker 1: this is reframing and propaganda in action. Okay, let's leave
- 34:36Speaker 1: that there now. I just want to say that we've
- 34:39Speaker 1: got our twentieth anniversary event coming up in Plymouth and
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- 35:31Speaker 1: joke yes about serious things going on in the country.
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- 38:03Speaker 1: also got Silk and Steel China, Russia in Iran. Have
- 38:07Speaker 1: they just changed the world order? Lots of questions to
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- 38:18Speaker 1: Russia and China causing the problems. These are all things
- 38:21Speaker 1: we can discuss now. Diane Rasmussen has also been in
- 38:26Speaker 1: Newcastle with Nathan and tomorrow at one pm there's an
- 38:33Speaker 1: interview that she did with Nathan as they toured the
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- 38:41Speaker 1: how to best to stop it. So huge amount of
- 38:44Speaker 1: material coming out from the UK column and know our
- 38:47Speaker 1: budget isn't as big as the BBC. Okay, let's move
- 38:51Speaker 1: on to a subject which UK colum I think perhaps
- 38:55Speaker 1: uniquely has covered over the last twenty years, and that
- 38:59Speaker 1: is the still feeling of our children by the States.
- 39:02Speaker 1: This is an article back from twenty ten that I wrote,
- 39:05Speaker 1: wake up, watchmen and children are being stolen by the state.
- 39:09Speaker 1: This is the abuse of the court system where families
- 39:13Speaker 1: have to try and defend their family and children inside
- 39:16Speaker 1: a court with a judge, with no jury and very
- 39:20Speaker 1: often with no media or press. Now, the key parts
- 39:25Speaker 1: of the article were this that these vicious star chamber courts,
- 39:30Speaker 1: as I call them, block evidence. If there's evidence of abuse,
- 39:34Speaker 1: it's actually blocked. False rumors are spread around the family
- 39:39Speaker 1: to discredit them in order to weaken their ability to
- 39:42Speaker 1: defend themselves and keep their children. Malicious use to the
- 39:47Speaker 1: psychiatric system to brand parents as unfit parents or indeed
- 39:52Speaker 1: mentally ill as a way to leave the children away.
- 39:56Speaker 1: We've also got coaching children who've been abuse hoos to
- 40:01Speaker 1: reframe them that their abuse is imaginary. This is unbelievably
- 40:05Speaker 1: vicious and cruel, but it absolutely goes on in the
- 40:09Speaker 1: so called child protection system. We've got psychological harassment where
- 40:15Speaker 1: all sorts of games are played on the families, particularly
- 40:18Speaker 1: the mothers, I must say, in order to leave them
- 40:21Speaker 1: away from the children. And it doesn't stop there because
- 40:25Speaker 1: if the parents' moms and dads try to speak out,
- 40:29Speaker 1: there are threats made in court you will be jailed
- 40:33Speaker 1: if you dare to speak about the case. Excuse me.
- 40:37Speaker 1: So we've got malicious collusion here between the police, social services,
- 40:42Speaker 1: the NHS and the legal teams so that the victim
- 40:45Speaker 1: is held on the outside of the decision making system.
- 40:49Speaker 1: Parents are isolated. Sorry, I've got a duplicated headline.
- 40:54Speaker 8: There.
- 40:55Speaker 1: There are repeated court hearings, and we've also got removed
- 41:00Speaker 1: of the child by these secret star chamber courts, no
- 41:05Speaker 1: jury present. And if we remember, the former Justice Secretary,
- 41:09Speaker 1: Jack Straw, was involved in a very strange thing. He
- 41:14Speaker 1: said as of April the time this is going back
- 41:17Speaker 1: to February two thousand and nine, because of a change
- 41:21Speaker 1: in legislation being introduced by Jack Straw, the Justice Secretary,
- 41:25Speaker 1: the media will no longer be able to identify those
- 41:28Speaker 1: involved cases child cases such as the Websters. This is
- 41:32Speaker 1: where it was absolutely clear the accusations made against the
- 41:37Speaker 1: parents were untrue, but the state still went ahead and
- 41:41Speaker 1: took children. And he continued by effectively making it or
- 41:48Speaker 1: trying to make it illegal for any child currently in
- 41:50Speaker 1: care to speak out even if they felt they were
- 41:54Speaker 1: being mis maltreated or abused. This did not actually succeed,
- 41:59Speaker 1: but even the media was very very suspicious as to
- 42:02Speaker 1: what Jack Straw was trying to do, because it almost
- 42:06Speaker 1: seemed that you were shutting down children from warning when
- 42:10Speaker 1: they were being abused. So very very dark actors around
- 42:14Speaker 1: our court system and particularly the children's courts, and recently
- 42:20Speaker 1: we've been warning about Lord Levison making changes and trying
- 42:24Speaker 1: to get rid of the jury, but a hand in
- 42:26Speaker 1: glove with that, we've also got the drive to accelerate
- 42:31Speaker 1: family courts, the so called child focus courts. What this
- 42:35Speaker 1: is really going to do is make it easier to
- 42:38Speaker 1: take children away from their parents, because the whole secret
- 42:42Speaker 1: court system will be accelerated. If you go onto the
- 42:45Speaker 1: UK column website and put in childs stealing by the State,
- 42:49Speaker 1: you'll see many interviews that I've done with mothers and
- 42:54Speaker 1: talking about their children being stolen by the state, the
- 42:58Speaker 1: state covering up abusive children in care. This is the
- 43:02Speaker 1: reality of the legal system in UK. And of course
- 43:07Speaker 1: the emphasis now is that everything will be made more
- 43:10Speaker 1: secret as AI is used to replace juries, maybe to
- 43:16Speaker 1: replace judges, in order to take children away from families.
- 43:20Speaker 1: Very serious stuff then, and I think there are many
- 43:24Speaker 1: people in this country who feel this cannot be possible.
- 43:28Speaker 1: But it's reality.
- 43:30Speaker 2: It is reality, and it's being smuggled into policy in
- 43:36Speaker 2: very underhand ways. I would say. So if we look
- 43:40Speaker 2: at the next section here, the segue is remarkable because
- 43:45Speaker 2: I'm going to talk to you initially about a piece
- 43:48Speaker 2: of work coming from the secutive state of housing, communities
- 43:52Speaker 2: and local government. This guy, Steve reid Obe. He's also
- 43:56Speaker 2: a Fabian, also ultra Zionist, and last week he put
- 44:00Speaker 2: out this piece of policy, the Neighborhood Guarantee to improve villages,
- 44:05Speaker 2: towns and cities. You couldn't argue with that, could you, Brian.
- 44:08Speaker 2: They're going to improve villages, towns and cities.
- 44:10Speaker 1: If you trust them, which I don't.
- 44:12Speaker 2: Bet well, I'm not sure that I do either, Right,
- 44:14Speaker 2: But let's have a little listen to what this is
- 44:15Speaker 2: about and then we'll see how it actually links into
- 44:17Speaker 2: the family course, because it does in quite a remarkable way.
- 44:21Speaker 2: So what does the document say. We'll provide the links.
- 44:23Speaker 2: You can go read this yourself. There is only a
- 44:25Speaker 2: short document, it's worth having a look at. It starts
- 44:28Speaker 2: out by saying communities are set to benefit from clear
- 44:31Speaker 2: expectations around the level of public services they should expect
- 44:34Speaker 2: to see in their area under old changes and ouce today.
- 44:37Speaker 2: It was last week twenty first to May. Key issues
- 44:41Speaker 2: that matter to local people, from cleaner streets, filled in potholes,
- 44:45Speaker 2: and other vital public services communities rely on will come
- 44:49Speaker 2: under a neighborhood guarantee for the first time. So this
- 44:52Speaker 2: is central government sw one developing a gay guarantee around
- 45:00Speaker 2: basic level of service for what your councils should be doing. Right,
- 45:02Speaker 2: there's absolutely nothing to do with national politics. Yeah, they've
- 45:07Speaker 2: inserted themselves into this conversation in a very comprehensive way.
- 45:11Speaker 1: So this is bringing state control to a lower level exactly.
- 45:16Speaker 2: But it's okay because it's about clean the streets and
- 45:19Speaker 2: fixing potholes, which I think we can all agree needs
- 45:22Speaker 2: to be done. But it's about some other stuff as well,
- 45:25Speaker 2: as we'll come on to. We also, it goes on
- 45:30Speaker 2: say the government is also bringing forward more measures to
- 45:32Speaker 2: put power back into the hands of communities. So this
- 45:34Speaker 2: is where citizens assemblies and all that kind of stuff
- 45:37Speaker 2: is going to start coming through to ensure local public
- 45:39Speaker 2: services are working for people, not private companies, and give
- 45:43Speaker 2: local leaders the tools to deliver real change. Steve Reid
- 45:47Speaker 2: is quoted in this document saying the government's new Neighborhood
- 45:50Speaker 2: Guarantee sets minimum standards local people can expect to see
- 45:53Speaker 2: and hold public services to account, and if things don't
- 45:56Speaker 2: improve my emphasis, there are new powers to force change. Yeah,
- 46:01Speaker 2: that's what is ultimately this is about. It is the
- 46:03Speaker 2: transformation of local government. And if you don't do what
- 46:06Speaker 2: we say we're going to force change, but apparently this
- 46:09Speaker 2: is about all about showing respect for the place's people
- 46:12Speaker 2: call home. Strikes me that it's not actually strikes me
- 46:16Speaker 2: that you don't think those people are going to look
- 46:17Speaker 2: after their own affairs and you need to insert yourselves
- 46:20Speaker 2: into everything. Steve Reid and Labor more generally, let's go
- 46:24Speaker 2: back to the policy document says the government is taking
- 46:26Speaker 2: decisive action to route out profiteering by private companies exploiting
- 46:30Speaker 2: public services, which I think we can all agree is
- 46:33Speaker 2: a good thing. This is why we've just legislated to
- 46:35Speaker 2: have the powers to introduce and inforce a profit cap.
- 46:39Speaker 2: So they're not going to stop privatization of public services,
- 46:42Speaker 2: they're just going to put a profit cap on it,
- 46:44Speaker 2: which I'll come back to in a moment, because I
- 46:46Speaker 2: think there's something buried in that. Then goes on to
- 46:48Speaker 2: say wider government reforms to the children's social care market,
- 46:54Speaker 2: my emphasis will fix the broken placement system and put
- 46:58Speaker 2: children first, including expanding fostering, supporting families earlier, and ensuring
- 47:03Speaker 2: residential care is only used when necessary. This is what
- 47:06Speaker 2: you were just talking about, Brian.
- 47:07Speaker 1: Absolutely Ben and children taking children away from their parents,
- 47:13Speaker 1: looking after children in care fostering. This is a multi
- 47:18Speaker 1: billion pound industry in the UK. It is utterly vicious
- 47:23Speaker 1: and they are now going to bring in more controls
- 47:27Speaker 1: and systems to be able to do more of this faster.
- 47:32Speaker 1: I've got to say, as nicely as I can looking
- 47:34Speaker 1: at the audience in the eye through the cameras. People
- 47:37Speaker 1: have got to wake up very fast here. It's one
- 47:40Speaker 1: thing to have your life messed up by people who
- 47:43Speaker 1: are basically idiots with their particular political agenda. But if
- 47:48Speaker 1: they are coming for your children, what are you living for?
- 47:53Speaker 1: This is unbelievably serious stuff.
- 47:56Speaker 2: Absolutely, and actually just look at what we've been living
- 47:59Speaker 2: through through and the kind of direction of travel. If
- 48:02Speaker 2: you have an opinion that is not deemed to be
- 48:04Speaker 2: acceptable by the state, they're going to becoming to take
- 48:07Speaker 2: your kids. And there's this been buried in the policy document,
- 48:10Speaker 2: which is the outset is ostensibly about feeling in potholes
- 48:13Speaker 2: on the road.
- 48:14Speaker 10: Because that's what this looks like, so extraordinary. Yeah, sheer
- 48:19Speaker 10: contempt for children, Yes, because effectively they equate potholes in
- 48:24Speaker 10: the road. Well, except they make money out of children.
- 48:27Speaker 10: They don't make money out of the potoles.
- 48:29Speaker 2: Yes, extraordinary, and then just finally to wrap up from us,
- 48:33Speaker 2: they're going to say we will monitor the market carefully.
- 48:36Speaker 2: I still can't go over the fact that there's a
- 48:38Speaker 2: market in child social care, but anyway, they're going to
- 48:41Speaker 2: monitor it and based on our assessment and subject to consultation,
- 48:44Speaker 2: we will cap the profits of private providers place in
- 48:46Speaker 2: vulnerable children in care if required, which I think is
- 48:49Speaker 2: a gateway to impact investing, and that segues us nicely
- 48:53Speaker 2: into the second big piece of policy which came out
- 48:55Speaker 2: last week from this guy is Darren Jones, MP, Chancellor
- 48:59Speaker 2: of the Duchy of Lancaster, within which capacity he is
- 49:03Speaker 2: responsible for all Cabinet office policy, all cross government delivery,
- 49:08Speaker 2: all national security policy coordination, all state reform and civil
- 49:13Speaker 2: service reform, and all communications coming out of Central Government.
- 49:16Speaker 2: Very important role. He's also Chief Secretary to the Prime Minister,
- 49:19Speaker 2: so absolutely central works directly for STARMA and also was
- 49:25Speaker 2: instrumental in bringing impact investing into the British State, which
- 49:28Speaker 2: I'll come back to in a moment. Last week he
- 49:31Speaker 2: announced that all departments in the civil service will have
- 49:34Speaker 2: a delivery team led by a top civil servant embedded
- 49:39Speaker 2: into them. And this is a massive change with every
- 49:43Speaker 2: single government department is going to have a new delivery
- 49:45Speaker 2: team embedded into it with what they describe as high
- 49:50Speaker 2: ranking leadership. The Chief Secretary to the PM said that
- 49:54Speaker 2: the plans followed the introduction of a new shared intelligence
- 49:57Speaker 2: platform that connects departments and the Number ten Deliver Unit,
- 50:00Speaker 2: offering a shared view of priorities, progress against them and
- 50:03Speaker 2: problems encountered. Total centralization of visibility and control an answer
- 50:09Speaker 2: to the Civil Service Leadership publishing Civil Service World, goes
- 50:14Speaker 2: on to say. In a speech to the annual conference
- 50:16Speaker 2: of the Civil Service leaders Union in the FDA yesterday,
- 50:18Speaker 2: Joanes said it is hoped that extending the current delivery
- 50:21Speaker 2: expertise across departments and integrating it properly into the center
- 50:25Speaker 2: of government will bring ministers and civil servants close together.
- 50:28Speaker 2: It's all about accelerating delivery of their agenda. And he
- 50:32Speaker 2: describes this as probably the biggest change in private office
- 50:35Speaker 2: arrangements since special advisors are introduced in the nineteen sixties.
- 50:38Speaker 1: So he's actually telling the truth there, I think. But
- 50:41Speaker 1: what are people watching? You're watching the utter destruction of
- 50:46Speaker 1: our constitution in the first place. What you're seeing destruction
- 50:51Speaker 1: of law because this is going along hand with it,
- 50:55Speaker 1: and this is essentially the rules based international system being
- 50:59Speaker 1: a posed a street level, at family level.
- 51:03Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and essentially entering the host, which is the
- 51:11Speaker 2: existing system is some kind of parasite and then replacing
- 51:14Speaker 2: it from the inside so that people don't really understand
- 51:17Speaker 2: quite what's happening. It's really extraordinary what they're doing. Just
- 51:20Speaker 2: as a final point, he then goes to say that
- 51:23Speaker 2: he gave an update on his January announcement about plans
- 51:27Speaker 2: for a peacetime task force based on the success of
- 51:31Speaker 2: the Johnson Government's vaccine task Force to bulldoze delivery problems.
- 51:36Speaker 1: So we've got force force it through, bulldoze it through.
- 51:41Speaker 1: These people are utterly vicious and they are going to
- 51:46Speaker 1: use everything in their powers to try and force this
- 51:49Speaker 1: thing through.
- 51:50Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 51:51Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 51:51Speaker 2: A lot of its centers around this. So we talked
- 51:52Speaker 2: about impact investing a lot, and Darren Jones was instrumental
- 52:00Speaker 2: in introducing impact investing into the center of government. We
- 52:04Speaker 2: reported on the announcement of all the creations, so I say,
- 52:08Speaker 2: of the Office for the Impact Economy back in November.
- 52:11Speaker 2: Impact Investing, the Impact Economy, This entire paradigm comes from
- 52:17Speaker 2: the Rockefeller Foundation, but then also importantly from work done
- 52:20Speaker 2: by Jeffrey Epstein working with Bill Gates and the Gates
- 52:23Speaker 2: Foundation back in twenty eleven. This is an email that
- 52:26Speaker 2: I reported on a couple of times now where he
- 52:28Speaker 2: says to Jess Staley from JP Morgan that he wants
- 52:31Speaker 2: to create what he calls a donor advised fund that
- 52:33Speaker 2: he could tie to initially to the Gates Program minimum
- 52:37Speaker 2: gift of one hundred million, and the Tension is making
- 52:39Speaker 2: money from a charitable orgue. Therefore the money making parts
- 52:42Speaker 2: need to be at arm's length. This is what fed
- 52:45Speaker 2: into impact investing. This is what has now been embedded
- 52:49Speaker 2: into the heart of the Cabinet or fifth and is
- 52:52Speaker 2: going to be the new model for how governance, not
- 52:56Speaker 2: just governance, the whole society is going to run essentially
- 53:00Speaker 2: total merger between state market and increasingly what they call philanthropy.
- 53:07Speaker 2: But it's not very philanthropic and more exploitive, I would.
- 53:11Speaker 1: Say, just to add add in there, Ben, And of
- 53:13Speaker 1: course this comes back to our analysis of the Escape
- 53:17Speaker 1: Key work. So while Epstein was doing his dirty business
- 53:21Speaker 1: with the young women, what was going on was the
- 53:25Speaker 1: formation of these plans. But if you believe the BBC
- 53:29Speaker 1: at the moment, Epstein was just something that's faded away
- 53:33Speaker 1: into the long grass and the people who've got any
- 53:36Speaker 1: problems Andrew and Mandelssohn so Epstein completely air brushed out
- 53:43Speaker 1: of the picture. But aside from the abusive issue, very
- 53:47Speaker 1: very important and serious. What they were doing was working
- 53:51Speaker 1: behind the scenes to bring in this this political monetary
- 53:56Speaker 1: capitalist agenda.
- 54:00Speaker 2: And then behind that the Office for Impact Economy very
- 54:04Speaker 2: closely linked into this organization Regenerate, who I need to
- 54:07Speaker 2: do a much longer report on. Essentially this is a
- 54:11Speaker 2: non partisan charitable foundation, think tank types thing who have
- 54:15Speaker 2: just secondered this lady Esmee Clifford into the obvious for
- 54:19Speaker 2: the Impact Economy, so she has now essentially been embedded
- 54:22Speaker 2: there and he's helping to establish that and to run it.
- 54:25Speaker 2: And this organization Regenerate is overseeing at a board level
- 54:29Speaker 2: by an assutes from the Crown of State and Richard
- 54:32Speaker 2: Bross and Rothchild and co. Amongst others. But I think
- 54:35Speaker 2: that gives you a very neat descripture there of who's
- 54:39Speaker 2: behind this policy, who's driving the transformation of the British state,
- 54:44Speaker 2: and who's ultimately pulling the strings behind the scenes.
- 54:47Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Ben, and I will just add
- 54:49Speaker 1: in response to a comment in our chat box while
- 54:52Speaker 1: you were talking, that you're absolutely right these policies can
- 54:57Speaker 1: only work if they can enforce them at local level,
- 55:00Speaker 1: and this means that local counselors are very very important
- 55:04Speaker 1: people because if they stand up to represent the people
- 55:09Speaker 1: who elected them, they can absolutely stop these policies dead
- 55:15Speaker 1: within the local councils. So this is where if people
- 55:19Speaker 1: are elected on the ticket of one of the smaller
- 55:23Speaker 1: emerging parties, this is really good because once they are
- 55:28Speaker 1: a counselor, they can make a difference as long as
- 55:32Speaker 1: they're fully informed as what they're fighting. So don't dismiss
- 55:36Speaker 1: local counselors because they're just local counselors. These are very
- 55:40Speaker 1: very important people, I would suggest more important than MPs
- 55:45Speaker 1: because of course MPs most of them are frightened rabbits
- 55:49Speaker 1: they will only do what the party whip tells them.
- 55:52Speaker 1: But particularly independent or small party local counselors can absolutely
- 56:00Speaker 1: got this stuff dead in its tracks. And of course
- 56:02Speaker 1: if you give them information and praise them when they
- 56:05Speaker 1: do the right thing, this raises the confidence and we
- 56:08Speaker 1: can fight back as to what's happening here. Now, I'm
- 56:12Speaker 1: just going to end on the subject of Rhina Formick.
- 56:16Speaker 1: As many people will know, I went to Germany to
- 56:19Speaker 1: visit Rhino Formick in prison in BREMAFORDA. That was a
- 56:23Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. My goodness, how time flies. And
- 56:28Speaker 1: this was part of my journey to actually find out
- 56:30Speaker 1: what had happened to Rhina and whether he was guilty
- 56:35Speaker 1: or not of the crimes which the German court found
- 56:39Speaker 1: him guilty of. Now, as I have talked to more
- 56:42Speaker 1: people and I've dug into more information, what my brain
- 56:47Speaker 1: is saying is that there is a lot more to
- 56:49Speaker 1: discover in this case. Because, of course, as we've just
- 56:52Speaker 1: heard in today's UK column News in UK, at least
- 56:56Speaker 1: if you dare to challenge the government, the government is
- 57:00Speaker 1: going to challenge you, and if it can put you
- 57:03Speaker 1: through a legal process and put you in prison, it'll
- 57:06Speaker 1: treat you viciously. But of course, Hina, whatever he may
- 57:10Speaker 1: have done subsequently, is the man who brought a huge
- 57:13Speaker 1: number of expert witnesses together together, very highly qualified people,
- 57:19Speaker 1: in order to expose the lies and abuses through the
- 57:23Speaker 1: COVID nineteen So called pandemic and the resulting lockdown. And
- 57:29Speaker 1: therefore we might ask what would happen if Rhina Formick
- 57:33Speaker 1: had been brought in front of a jury instead of
- 57:37Speaker 1: a jury at common law, instead of a panel of
- 57:41Speaker 1: judges in Germany? Could it be that he would have
- 57:46Speaker 1: been found not guilty due to the reasons that he'd
- 57:51Speaker 1: set up the CIC in the first place, and the
- 57:54Speaker 1: work he did to expose wrong doing by the government
- 57:58Speaker 1: and the corporates pushing their vaccine for huge profits. Well,
- 58:04Speaker 1: many people have attacked him, and today I just want
- 58:07Speaker 1: to say to our audience you might like to go
- 58:10Speaker 1: to this particular website. The details are on screen, but
- 58:15Speaker 1: we'll have it in the show notes. It's called Responsibility
- 58:18Speaker 1: with Class under the broad title of End Times. And
- 58:23Speaker 1: this website is carrying several detailed reports about Ryana Formick.
- 58:30Speaker 1: And indeed, the owner of the website has spent a
- 58:34Speaker 1: huge amount of time looking at the German court documents.
- 58:39Speaker 1: He speaks German completely fluently, and he's been looking into
- 58:44Speaker 1: what's been happening all the way through the court case.
- 58:48Speaker 1: Now he's raising several questions. Court documentation is vast, it's
- 58:54Speaker 1: in very complex German legal language and that makes it
- 58:58Speaker 1: difficult for many people to understand what being set. But
- 59:01Speaker 1: he's told me in speaking to him direct, he simply
- 59:05Speaker 1: doesn't believe that some of the things reported in court
- 59:08Speaker 1: documents are accurate. We've also got the proceedings in the
- 59:13Speaker 1: court very very unusual, and at one stage verbal evidence
- 59:19Speaker 1: evidence in person was actually barred. So you can go
- 59:23Speaker 1: on the website and have a look at some of
- 59:24Speaker 1: these things. He also finds it unusual that Rhiner, for
- 59:29Speaker 1: a crime to do with money, has received such brutal
- 59:32Speaker 1: treatment in prison, six months in solitary confinement. Not least.
- 59:38Speaker 1: He has also talked about the importance of the Corona
- 59:44Speaker 1: Investigating Investigative Committee itself in bringing the evidence forward to
- 59:49Speaker 1: people worldwide. And lastly, the site has got some deep
- 59:55Speaker 1: concerns about the quality and style of third party reporting
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: on RHIN. So those are just a few questions. But
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: for the audience who say, what is this about, I
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: don't really know much about Rhina, encourage you to go
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: to this website and excuse me to start reading. We're
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: both struggling here a bit today. Somebody's commented on Ben's speaking,
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: you are a feeling a little bit under the weather today.
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: I'm struggling a bit as well, but we're nearly at
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: the end of the news, so we will end on
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: a positive note. I'll let you bring the image up
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: on screen.
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't Devin lovely? So this is Hope Cove. I
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: spend a bit of time over the weekend. Starling doesn't
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: do it justice at all. It was just breathtaking, yes, atally.
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: And of course this is all coastline relatively close to Plymouth.
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: If you have you've never been down to Plymouth and
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: seen the sea and the coastline, The coastlines both in
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: Cornwall and the Devons side of Plymouth absolutely spectacular. If
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: you come and join us for our twentieth event and
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: make it a holiday, spend more than our days down
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: you will not be disappointed because it's truly spectacular down
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: here as you, as a London boy have discovered.
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: Man, yes I have indeed, And then I find a
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: bit of good news, maybe an omen I don't know.
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: A rare species of birds, said to be the guardian
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: of King Arthur's soul, have returned to Tintagile Castle for
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: the first time in one hundred years. Red billed chuffs
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: have been spotted at the historic site in Cornwall where
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: they were previously considered extinct after an absence of about
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: a century, and these have been woven into Cornish folklore.
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: King Arthur's soul is said to live on in the
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: form of a chuff. So I guess the question is
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: is this an omen? Is something about to happen?
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I'm a chuffed though.
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: Yeah, we could do a new king. That was a
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: great joke. By the way, Brian, what.
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: Was the best I can do?
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: At this time?
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: We are at the end of today's news. We know
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: that UK column news is are very serious. We need
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: to be serious because what's happening in the country is serious.
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: If you're thinking, how do we deal with what's happening,
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: all of the chaos and the uncertainty and the angst
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: and the wars, the answer is it requires a very
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: large number of us to do simple things together. And
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: today we've suggested that if you really want to make
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: a difference, mix it with those newly elected local councilors.
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: Give them your support, tell them what they should be doing,
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: give them the information and the ammunition. I'm using that
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: in the correct paperwork way. Give them what they need
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: to fight the battle, and let us try and get
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: rid of this infighting which we see as people get
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: anxious and distressed about for all system. As we've said
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: many times, if we're to be in the camps, you
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: won't be worrying whether the person next to you is
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: left wing or right wing, or black or white. You're
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: going to be wondering whether you can trust them and
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: whether they will help you survive. We're not going to
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: get as far as the camps because people are going
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: to work together. So do the work, but also take
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: time to relax. The sun is shining and that's a
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: good thing. We'll leave it there, Ben, thanks very much
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: for joining me. Thank you for joining UK column News.
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: We'll be back in a minute for our members with
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: UK column Extra and UK column News will be back
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: at one o'clock on Wednesday. See you then, Bye bye,