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The Kenny Report | 21 August · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Sky New Center.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report. Thanks for joining me tonight.
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  Speaker 1: The Israeli Prime Minister speaks exclusively to Sky News and
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  Speaker 1: intensifies his attack on Anthony Albanisi.
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  Speaker 2: The Economic Roundtable wraps.
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  Speaker 1: Up after a bit of biffo, with no major reforms delivered.
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  Speaker 1: The NDIS shakeup is autism running rampant or our parents
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  Speaker 1: milking the system? Also more on our energy Madness. Alexander
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  Speaker 1: Downer will join us to talk about Ukraine and Israel,
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  Speaker 1: and Mark Nicholson and Johannes Sleek on the AFL's four
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  Speaker 1: match band for Isaac Rankin.
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  Speaker 2: I suppose we're all expecting it. Let's get into it.
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  Speaker 1: The Economic Roundtable is wrapping up as we speak. There
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  Speaker 1: was a bit of biffo, as I just said, and
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  Speaker 1: I'll go to the Treasurer's press conference.
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  Speaker 2: Live later this hour.
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  Speaker 1: But the overwhelming dilemma for the Albanesi government today has
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  Speaker 1: in the fallout over Israel, the war in Gaza, Anthony
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  Speaker 1: Albanese's vowed to recognize the non existent state of Palestine,
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  Speaker 1: the government's banning of a visit by an Israeli MP,
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  Speaker 1: and the tit for tat response from Israel, including the
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  Speaker 1: attack on Albanese by Benjamin Netanyahu. The Israeli Prime Minister,
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  Speaker 1: ramped it up overnight in an exclusive interview with Shari Marksen.
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  Speaker 3: Why do you believe history will remember him as a
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  Speaker 3: weak politician?
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  Speaker 4: Well, look, I'm sure he has a reputable record as
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  Speaker 4: a public servant, but I think his record is forever
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  Speaker 4: tarnished by the weakness that he showed in the face
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  Speaker 4: of these commas terrorist monsters. You know, when the worst
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  Speaker 4: terrorist organization on Earth, the savages who murdered women, raped them,
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  Speaker 4: beheaded men, burnt babies alive in front of their parents,
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  Speaker 4: and took hundreds of hostages, When these people can gradually
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  Speaker 4: the Prime Minister of Australia, you know something is wrong.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That full interview will air on Shari tonight. That's eight
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  Speaker 1: o'clock right here on Sky News. I've seen the whole
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  Speaker 1: thing and you don't want to miss it. For instance,
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  Speaker 1: I'll show you another bit where Netanyahu explains that this
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  Speaker 1: really is not just Israel's fight, but one that belongs
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  Speaker 1: to Australia and all of Western civilization.
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  Speaker 3: What will it take to restore the friendship between Israel
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  Speaker 3: and Australia.
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  Speaker 4: There's been a great underlying friendship. Therefore, over a century,
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  Speaker 4: I think it's been gone astray because I think leaders
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  Speaker 4: did not show the strength and conviction that they should
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  Speaker 4: have when we're fighting, actually we're fighting the war of
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  Speaker 4: Western civilization against these barbarians.
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  Speaker 1: Look, as I said last night, the Israeli Prime Minister
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  Speaker 1: is right. Albanizi has been weak, and the incendiary language
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  Speaker 1: of his Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke. Demonization of Israel
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  Speaker 1: by Burke, Albanesi, Penny Wong and others can only intensify
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  Speaker 1: the scourge of anti Semitism here and encourage terrorists around
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  Speaker 1: the world. The Albernezi government has given sucker to terrorists.
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  Speaker 1: It's trashed the relationship with Israel, it's put further distance
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  Speaker 1: between us and our key ally, the United States, and
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  Speaker 1: it's backing a diplomatic path that is both inept and dangerous.
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  Speaker 1: But of course the government is defiant.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 6: I think much of what the Israeli Prime Minister said
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  Speaker 6: in the comments I had seen were frankly ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: But you know we're not going to focus on those. Well, no, he.
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  Speaker 1: Won't focus on those because none of what Benjaminette now,
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  Speaker 1: who said was ridiculous. If Mark Butler was right, he
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  Speaker 1: might have actually identified her point and explained why it
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  Speaker 1: was ridiculous. But still, if that was a tempered defense,
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  Speaker 1: have a look at the critic from the opposition leader.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm not going.
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  Speaker 7: To go to the individual comments that other prime ministers
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  Speaker 7: are making or the particular features of this dialogue at
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  Speaker 7: this time, But what I am going to say is
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  Speaker 7: that Anthony Albanesi has mismanaged the relationship, and that mismanagement
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  Speaker 7: clearly has consequences. But what it matters today is that
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  Speaker 7: we work hard together to get the relationship back on
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  Speaker 7: an even keel.
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  Speaker 1: Really, that's all she's got to say. When we have
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  Speaker 1: a dangerously weak government, the last thing we need is
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  Speaker 1: a merely mouthed opposition. Our prime minister is being praised
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  Speaker 1: by the bloodthirsty terrorists of Humas while he's at odds
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  Speaker 1: with Israel and the United States. Let that sink in,
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  Speaker 1: and the opposition leader says Albanezi should get the relationship
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  Speaker 1: with Israel.
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  Speaker 2: Back on an even keel. That's all. Actually.
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  Speaker 1: I think Australia needs to st stand fir only against terrorism,
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  Speaker 1: against Humas and in favor of the survival of Israel.
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  Speaker 1: It needs to stop banning mainstream Israeli visitors and start
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  Speaker 1: banning Islamist hate preachers. It needs to stop fueling anti
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  Speaker 1: Israeli sentiment by demonizing Israel and repeating Hummas propaganda. It
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  Speaker 1: needs to stop repeating lies about civilians being bombed and
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  Speaker 1: children being starved.
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  Speaker 2: There is so much misinformation around. Look at what of
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  Speaker 2: the latest examples.
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  Speaker 1: A woman taken from Gaza to Italy for medical treatment
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  Speaker 1: and dying there, with stacks of media coverage earlier this
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  Speaker 1: week suggesting she was malnourished and starving. It was a
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  Speaker 1: tragic death, of course, but there was no starvation. The
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  Speaker 1: woman was suffering from leukemia, and of course she only
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  Speaker 1: got out of Gaza to seek better treatment courtesy of Israel.
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  Speaker 1: You literally cannot believe much of what the media and
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  Speaker 1: many politicians are telling you.
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  Speaker 2: And just one thing about Benjamin Nettnahu's response to Anthony Alberanisi.
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  Speaker 1: It shows that Australia matters. As I've been saying for
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  Speaker 1: two years now. While we are not a huge player
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  Speaker 1: on the ground in the Middle East, our voice in
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  Speaker 1: global diplomacy used to be respected. But by abandoning Israel
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  Speaker 1: and distancing ourselves from the Americans. Australia is diminished. We've
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  Speaker 1: backed tracked from our core values. We're throwing out, throwing
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  Speaker 1: our lot now in with the weak Europeans and the
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  Speaker 1: United Nations. Crowd weakness is provocative, especially in the face
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  Speaker 1: of Islamist extremists. So this is a reckless retreat by Australia.
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  Speaker 2: I've got to talk about the weather in Sydney.
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  Speaker 1: We're a big country, I know, a vast continent, and
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  Speaker 1: I know the weather has been good in many parts
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  Speaker 1: of the country. But let me tell you in Sydney
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  Speaker 1: these past few weeks, and actually these past few winters
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  Speaker 1: and summers, it's hardly stopped raining. The rain today and
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  Speaker 1: this week has been extraordinary, up to three inches in
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  Speaker 1: twenty four hours, and that's after vast amounts of rain
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  Speaker 1: last week and all of this month. It is NonStop
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  Speaker 1: and it's breaking records.
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  Speaker 8: City's recorded eighty millimeters just in the last twenty four hours.
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  Speaker 8: That makes the monthly total so far in Sydney three
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  Speaker 8: hundred and forty five millimeters, and that is triple the
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  Speaker 8: monthly average for August. So very heavy rainfall, way above average,
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  Speaker 8: not yet broken that record. Which stands at over four
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  Speaker 8: hundred millimeters, but still very heavy rainfall and more underway today.
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  Speaker 1: Now that record will be broken tomorrow. The way we're going,
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  Speaker 1: some records have already been broken, and others are certain
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  Speaker 1: to fall in coming days. And this stuff must be
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  Speaker 1: so confounding for the climb. And alarmis of course, none
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  Speaker 1: more so than Labour's former Climate Commissioner Tim Flannery, who
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  Speaker 1: famously warned us of the opposite impact in the Sydney basin.
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  Speaker 9: Even the rain it falls isn't actually going to fill
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  Speaker 9: our dams and our river system. Even the rain it
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  Speaker 9: falls isn't actually going to fill our dams and our
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  Speaker 9: river system.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, drought, empty dams, dry rivers. When all we've seen
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  Speaker 1: since then, of course, is repeated flooding and rain, So
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  Speaker 1: much rain in Sydney now there are flood warnings, there
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  Speaker 1: have been ses callouts, there are warnings for commuters to
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  Speaker 1: try and stay off the roads, and the rain continues.
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  Speaker 2: It's just relentless.
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  Speaker 1: Kids' sports have been repeatedly canceled throughout this winter.
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  Speaker 2: Parks have been turned into lakes.
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  Speaker 1: It's a drenching It actually reminds me of the famous
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  Speaker 1: Irish novel Franklin Court's Angela's Ashes, where it was always raining.
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  Speaker 1: He wrote, above all we were whet, great sheets of
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  Speaker 1: rain gathered to settle forever in Sydney, I mean in Limerick.
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  Speaker 2: He was writing about.
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  Speaker 1: The rain dampened the city for months on end. The
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  Speaker 1: walls glistened with the damp clothes never dried. Tweed and
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  Speaker 1: woolen coats housed a living things sometimes sprouted mysterious vegetations
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  Speaker 1: in pubs, Steam rows from damp bodies and garments. Yeah
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  Speaker 1: that's not Ireland, that's Sydney right now. Really, But get this,
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  Speaker 1: in these times of climate catastrophism, the predictions of people
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  Speaker 1: like Flannery, the wrong predictions of people like Flaannnery, led
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  Speaker 1: to real government decisions.
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  Speaker 9: Even the rain of falls isn't actually going to fill
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  Speaker 9: our dams and our river system. Even the rain of
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  Speaker 9: falls isn't actually going to fill our dams and our
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  Speaker 9: river system.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, based partly on unscientific advice like that, governments in Queensland,
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  Speaker 1: New South Wales, Victoria and South Australia spent more than
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  Speaker 1: ten billion dollars in total building desalination plants that they
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  Speaker 1: have never needed. But they still spend hundreds of millions
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  Speaker 1: of dollars to run. The Sydney dec our plant is
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  Speaker 1: still running. It costs more than a billion dollars to build,
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  Speaker 1: and it's cost almost a billion dollars to run over
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  Speaker 1: the past four years, even though the dams have been full,
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  Speaker 1: the rivers have flooded, and the city has been constantly drenched,
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  Speaker 1: and still the rain falls, and still the deceeur plants
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  Speaker 1: burn up expensive energy making fresh water that we don't need.
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  Speaker 1: It's just another example of climate alarmism, hurting taxpayers and
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  Speaker 1: undermining our national prosperity. What we need is not dece
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  Speaker 1: our plants. We need clear skies and sunshine.
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  Speaker 2: Science.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, we should follow the science, certainly when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to health and sex and gender. You know two sexes,
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  Speaker 1: male and female, both are needed to procreate. But the
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  Speaker 1: madness afoot in our bureaucracies knows no bounds. You won't
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  Speaker 1: believe what happened when a health bureaucrat turned up to
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  Speaker 1: give evidence at a parliamentary inquiry in South Australia into
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  Speaker 1: the very sensitive issue of the impact of stillbirth on mothers.
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  Speaker 1: The Women's and Children's Health Network Chief Executive Rebecca Graham said,
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  Speaker 1: in our discussion today, the terms women and women will
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  Speaker 1: be used, and this is in line with the current
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  Speaker 1: research and evidence, whatever that means. She then went on
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  Speaker 1: to say it is intended to include those with diverse
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  Speaker 1: sexualities as well, inter sex women and transgender women too.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, you heard right. She wants the term woman in
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  Speaker 2: the con.
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  Speaker 1: Text of this very tragic aspect of childbirth to also
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  Speaker 1: apply to transgender women, that is, biological males.
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  Speaker 2: This is just such an insult to women.
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  Speaker 1: Women are not even allowed to have ownership of their
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  Speaker 1: defining physical attribute. We have to pretend that men can
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  Speaker 1: have children too. As I've noted before, this really is
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  Speaker 1: a case of real life imitating the absurdity of art.
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  Speaker 10: I want to have babies.
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  Speaker 2: Do you want to have babies?
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  Speaker 1: Every man's right to have babies if he wants them.
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  Speaker 2: You can't have babies.
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  Speaker 5: Don't you oppress me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not oppressing you. Stand here, I'm got a womb.
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  Speaker 2: Where's the venus gonna just take? You're gonna keep it
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  Speaker 2: in a box? Here? I've got an idea. Suppose you agree.
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  Speaker 1: That you can't actually have babies not having a womb,
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  Speaker 1: which is nobody's fault, not even.
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  Speaker 7: The Romans, but that he can have the right to
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  Speaker 7: have babies.
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  Speaker 11: Good idea Judith, which you'll find out presses for your
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  Speaker 11: right to have babies, brother, sister.
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  Speaker 12: Sorry, what's the point?
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  Speaker 2: Indeed, what's the point? The bureaucrat says.
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  Speaker 1: The point is that the Health Department wants to acknowledge
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  Speaker 1: inclusivity and individual family and community preference and identity in
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  Speaker 1: what they're describing. The real point is bizarre virtue signaling
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  Speaker 1: and a horrible disconnect from reality. Health bureaucrats in denial
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  Speaker 1: about science and denying women the ownership of womanhood. Let's
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  Speaker 1: go now to the National's Deputy Leader, Kevin Hogan.
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  Speaker 2: He joins us live from.
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  Speaker 1: Tamworth in New South Wales. Thanks for joining us, sir Kevin.
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  Speaker 1: You're Shadow Treasurer teddo Bran went to the economic roundtable
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  Speaker 1: this week.
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  Speaker 2: Had a bit of a blow up today. It was
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  Speaker 2: it wise do you think for him to attend the roundtable? Well, look,
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  Speaker 2: it was his decision.
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  Speaker 13: He was trying to be constructive and add value if
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  Speaker 13: he could see it. But look, I'm sure it was
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  Speaker 13: a very difficult thing to be at because it was
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  Speaker 13: just a pr job done by Jim Chalmers, as you
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  Speaker 13: and I both know, and nothing was going to come
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  Speaker 13: out of it, if any use to make living standards
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  Speaker 13: better for the Australian family, Chris. And you know, I
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  Speaker 13: just had to look today because I knew I was
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  Speaker 13: going to be talking to you about this. What do
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  Speaker 13: we expect from Jim Chalmers, Chris? I had to look
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  Speaker 13: at his work history, so you know, has he ever
• 14:34
  Speaker 13: rolled up the shutters of a small business and no,
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  Speaker 13: what it's like to play other people's salary. Has he
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  Speaker 13: opened up shop doors at the start of the day
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  Speaker 13: and looked at how much money he would have to
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  Speaker 13: make that day to fund his life. No, he has
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  Speaker 13: worked for after university, after he studied Paul Keating. That
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  Speaker 13: was what he worked on at university. That was his
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  Speaker 13: education career study a politician. And then he went and
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  Speaker 13: worked for Wayne swan Then he went and worked for
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  Speaker 13: Kim Beasley, then he went and worked for Morris Yemma,
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  Speaker 13: then he went back and worked for Wayne swat On.
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  Speaker 13: That is his real life experience, Chris, there is no
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  Speaker 13: real life experience. Albanez is the same an ex political staff,
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  Speaker 13: ex union guy gets into politics at the young age
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  Speaker 13: and that's all they know. So they don't know business.
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  Speaker 13: They don't know how the world works. They don't know
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  Speaker 13: how to run a business. They don't know how to
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  Speaker 13: pay other people's salaries. Was a pr job that has
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  Speaker 13: achieved nothing?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well they you're right. These people haven't worked in
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  Speaker 1: the private sector. They don't understand how it works, but
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  Speaker 1: they understand how politics work. And they're back in power
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  Speaker 1: with a thumping majority. So we've got to deal with them.
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  Speaker 1: And apparently there was this blow up today when Ted
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  Speaker 1: O'Brien dared to suggest to Jim Charmers that one of
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  Speaker 1: the problems the government's facing is it's spending too much.
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  Speaker 1: It needs to get it spending under control. Let's have
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  Speaker 1: a listen to Sally mcnannus, of course, the union boss
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  Speaker 1: who was in there for this spat.
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  Speaker 14: So, I mean Ted will come out and talk about that.
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  Speaker 14: There was a bit of a political exchange that went
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  Speaker 14: on that felt a bit like in question time and
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  Speaker 14: that the rest of us sort of said, I just
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  Speaker 14: you know, Ted and Gym Yeah, and it was like, okay,
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  Speaker 14: guys like you can do that in question time. The
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  Speaker 14: rest of us here don't normally get to do that.
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  Speaker 14: So yeah, it was a bit of a backwards and
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  Speaker 14: forwards on that, and two very different views about you know,
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  Speaker 14: how how you know whether or not you need to
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  Speaker 14: have rules.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you wouldn't expect the Union movement to be
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  Speaker 1: backing a serious debate of our government spending.
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  Speaker 2: But what has come out of this. We're about to
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  Speaker 2: hear from the Treasurer. He's doing a press conference in
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  Speaker 2: the next ten or twenty minutes. We'll hear what he's
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  Speaker 2: got to say.
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  Speaker 1: But from what you've seen so far, as there been
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  Speaker 1: any consensus around any reform.
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  Speaker 2: Not what I've heard yet, Chris.
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  Speaker 13: But look, can we know Philip Low, actually the XRBA
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  Speaker 13: governor last week, built the cat on this. He said,
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  Speaker 13: this government spending is out of control. This government spending met,
• 16:47
  Speaker 13: interest rates stayed and inflation stayed higher for longer. Labored
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  Speaker 13: by their DNA, they're just built that they want to
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  Speaker 13: spend more of your money and therefore, if anything, they're
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  Speaker 13: going to be looking to tax more of your money.
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  Speaker 13: And that's the way labor think and their incohots with
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  Speaker 13: the Green in the Senate. So there's going to be
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  Speaker 13: nothing that increases people's living stands out of this because
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  Speaker 13: they don't know how to think like that. They just
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  Speaker 13: think how to spend more of your money and how
• 17:07
  Speaker 13: to raise more taxes to spend your money.
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  Speaker 1: Kevin, thanks for joining us. We will see what comes
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  Speaker 1: of it all. Kevin Hogan there, who's the National's Deputy leader,
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  Speaker 1: joining us from up.
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  Speaker 2: There in Tamworth. Pretty wet up there as well, by
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  Speaker 2: the looks.
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  Speaker 1: Look, there's more confirmation today that the government's renewable energy
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: transition is failing the nation. We all know that the
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: government's climate and energy policies have failed on price. This
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: graph shows what's been happening to our electricity prices. Despite
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Labour's promised to cut them by two hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 1: five dollars a year, they keep going up to record levels.
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  Speaker 1: The only dip down was just there at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the graph to see they dropped down for a
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: while when the government spent taxpayers money the sub subsidized
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: power bills in the lead up to an election. So
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: power prices are certainly a disaster, but supplies are being
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: jeopardized too, and we've seen this with warnings about electricity
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: use in past and governments having to shell out taxpayers
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  Speaker 1: money to try and keep coal fired power generators going,
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  Speaker 1: the same ones they want to shut down.
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  Speaker 2: They're paying them to keep going. And today there's.
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  Speaker 1: News that in the leading renewable energy state of South Australia,
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  Speaker 1: the government is having to extend the life of a
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  Speaker 1: major gas generator. The Australian Financial Review reports the South
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Australian government has asked energy retailer AGL to extend the
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: life of its aging Torrens Island gas generator by two years,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: amid warnings by the Energy Market Operator that its scheduled
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  Speaker 1: closure would pose energy risks for the state. Yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: need to keep the gas going.
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  Speaker 2: Until a new interconnector with New South Wales is built,
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  Speaker 2: even though it already relies South.
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  Speaker 1: Australia that is already relies heavily on an interconnector with Victoria,
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  Speaker 1: which brings in coal fired power when the sun isn't
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: shining or the wind isn't blowing. Still, when they eventually
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: shut all the coal fired power stations in the East,
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  Speaker 1: all the interconnectors in the world are not going to
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: supply power to the national grid in the quantities we
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: need because we need generation. Let me bring in Zoe Hilton,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: she's the senior energy policy analyst at the Center.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: For Independent Studies. Thanks for joining us, Zoe.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: We heard a bit from you last night because you
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: were in that alternative economic roundtable that was held publicly.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Just how big of a miss is it for the
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: real economic roundtable to ignore the issue of energy supplies.
• 19:35
  Speaker 15: The fact that the government seems to have no interest
• 19:38
  Speaker 15: in looking at what is actually driving prices up in
• 19:40
  Speaker 15: the electricity space is deeply concerning. I think the only
• 19:44
  Speaker 15: real policy solution they seem to have put forth from
• 19:47
  Speaker 15: this so called economic roundtable is to encourage superannuation funds
• 19:52
  Speaker 15: to invest more in clean energy by relaxing their performance
• 19:55
  Speaker 15: benchmark targets, which is very concerning for anyone who is
• 20:00
  Speaker 15: laying on their super fund to provide their retirement savings,
• 20:04
  Speaker 15: because really the options are either these projects, which are
• 20:07
  Speaker 15: generally speaking not very economic projects are going to deliver
• 20:11
  Speaker 15: poor returns, or, in the case of projects that have
• 20:14
  Speaker 15: capacity investment scheme, taxpayer underrating. We are literally going to
• 20:17
  Speaker 15: be funding people's retirements through taxpayer funding, which was the
• 20:22
  Speaker 15: whole point of getting super in the first place to
• 20:25
  Speaker 15: avoid paying people to pension. So really we're just going
• 20:27
  Speaker 15: to be paying people the pension, but through a much
• 20:29
  Speaker 15: more complicated process that is going to drive up our
• 20:31
  Speaker 15: electricity bills at the same time.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Zoe, sorry to interrupt you there.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: We're going to have to move on back down to
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Canberra because here's the Treasurer. He's been conducting this economic
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: roundtable for three days now in private.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Let's hear what he's got to say publicly.
• 20:46
  Speaker 16: At a time of such rapid and consequential change. And
• 20:52
  Speaker 16: at the front of all of our minds around that
• 20:55
  Speaker 16: cabinet room table, not just over the last three days,
• 20:58
  Speaker 16: but every day, is the magnitude of the opportunity that
• 21:02
  Speaker 16: we have to turn our recent momentum in the economy
• 21:06
  Speaker 16: into lasting and enduring progress. And the best way to
• 21:09
  Speaker 16: sustain and grow living standards over time is to make
• 21:13
  Speaker 16: our economy more productive, to make it more resilient, and
• 21:17
  Speaker 16: also to make sure that our budget is more sustainable.
• 21:20
  Speaker 12: And these were the tasks.
• 21:21
  Speaker 16: That we set some terrific people who gave us their
• 21:26
  Speaker 16: expertise and their experience over the course.
• 21:30
  Speaker 12: Of the last few days.
• 21:33
  Speaker 16: For all of us, higher living standards is the holy grail,
• 21:37
  Speaker 16: and a more productive economy is how we deliver it,
• 21:41
  Speaker 16: and in every part of every session, the working people
• 21:46
  Speaker 16: of this country, the community more broadly, was front and center,
• 21:50
  Speaker 16: because we know that the whole purpose of economic reform
• 21:55
  Speaker 16: is to deliver for the people who send us here
• 21:58
  Speaker 16: to work so hard on their behalf. I wanted to
• 22:02
  Speaker 16: thank a couple of dozen people in the core group,
• 22:05
  Speaker 16: another couple of dozen people who joined us for specific sessions.
• 22:11
  Speaker 12: I am so grateful for the way that.
• 22:14
  Speaker 16: They approached the task, the spirit with which they approached
• 22:17
  Speaker 16: the task, the way they looked for consensus and compromise,
• 22:21
  Speaker 16: the way that they were constructive, the way they took
• 22:24
  Speaker 16: seriously the guide rails to make their ideas and the
• 22:29
  Speaker 16: national interest and specific and affordable, and to also try
• 22:33
  Speaker 16: and build agreement across the group and not just with
• 22:36
  Speaker 16: the government. I also wanted to acknowledge that they know
• 22:40
  Speaker 16: and we know that a lot of the hard work
• 22:43
  Speaker 16: begins now. The hard work doesn't end at the end
• 22:46
  Speaker 16: of the three days, nor did it begin at the
• 22:49
  Speaker 16: beginning of the three days. But we've got a lot
• 22:52
  Speaker 16: of work to do together now. As we do that work,
• 22:56
  Speaker 16: I want to assure my cabinet colleagues the government morely
• 23:01
  Speaker 16: that in this government, cabinet ministers are front and center,
• 23:05
  Speaker 16: and all of the work that we propose to do,
• 23:07
  Speaker 16: we propose to do together. We don't propose to cut
• 23:10
  Speaker 16: across the important work that ministers do and that the
• 23:13
  Speaker 16: government does more broadly. And so there are some areas
• 23:16
  Speaker 16: I run you through in a moment where it requires
• 23:20
  Speaker 16: more work, whether jointly with ministers or in their own portfolios.
• 23:25
  Speaker 16: And I want to be very respectful of that, as
• 23:28
  Speaker 16: the group was respectful of that. Nobody in that room
• 23:31
  Speaker 16: consider themselves to be a replacement for a cabinet minister,
• 23:34
  Speaker 16: but to inform the work of cabinet ministers and their deliberations.
• 23:39
  Speaker 16: I want to make that really clear. There was twenty
• 23:43
  Speaker 16: nine hours of discussions. In the end, there was by
• 23:47
  Speaker 16: our count, something like three hundred and twenty seven different
• 23:50
  Speaker 16: contributions made over the course of those three days. People
• 23:56
  Speaker 16: came with their ideas, they came with a lot of goodwill,
• 23:59
  Speaker 16: of experts, a lot of experience, and they provided their
• 24:03
  Speaker 16: views to us in very generous ways.
• 24:05
  Speaker 12: And that's why I'm so grateful.
• 24:09
  Speaker 16: There were clear and broad areas of consensus, probably more
• 24:15
  Speaker 16: than I was anticipating, in the breadth and depth of
• 24:20
  Speaker 16: the views that people shared, and where those views connected
• 24:24
  Speaker 16: even from people representing different parts of our economy, different
• 24:27
  Speaker 16: parts of our country, representing the various constituency groups assembled
• 24:34
  Speaker 16: around the Cabinet table. What I wanted to do was
• 24:38
  Speaker 16: to give you a sense, first of all, on what
• 24:40
  Speaker 16: I think are ten pretty clear areas of consensus which
• 24:45
  Speaker 16: helped set some reform directions for the government, for the
• 24:50
  Speaker 16: Cabinet and for me and my own Treasury portfolio. Ten
• 24:54
  Speaker 16: directions reform directions. Then there's a category of work where
• 24:58
  Speaker 16: we think we can move relative sively quickly, respectful of
• 25:01
  Speaker 16: ministers to see where we can act with some urgency.
• 25:06
  Speaker 16: There's probably about ten of those. And then there's a
• 25:10
  Speaker 16: heap of extra work that the group agreed to give
• 25:14
  Speaker 16: us a hand with which will help us determine which
• 25:19
  Speaker 16: of the ideas they put forward. We tracked all of
• 25:22
  Speaker 16: the ideas, will work through them in a methodical and
• 25:24
  Speaker 16: a considered way. And so the list that I'm about
• 25:27
  Speaker 16: to give you, or the three lists, are not comprehensive
• 25:29
  Speaker 16: in terms of what was raised with us. These are
• 25:32
  Speaker 16: the three categories that I ran the group through that
• 25:35
  Speaker 16: I said there was an appetite for the government to
• 25:37
  Speaker 16: do that work, whether urgently or on a longer time
• 25:40
  Speaker 16: frame and consistent with the ten Reform Directions.
• 25:44
  Speaker 12: And so the ten reform directions.
• 25:45
  Speaker 16: Were, first of all, progress towards a single national market,
• 25:49
  Speaker 16: which is how we improve the federation, modernize the federation.
• 25:54
  Speaker 16: The second one is about simplifying trade and reforming tariffs.
• 26:00
  Speaker 16: The third one was better regulation and how we cut
• 26:03
  Speaker 16: the clutter when it comes to reg The fourth one
• 26:08
  Speaker 16: was speeding up approvals in national priority areas. The fifth
• 26:13
  Speaker 16: one was building more homes more quickly. The sixth one
• 26:17
  Speaker 16: was how we make artificial intelligence a national priority for Australia.
• 26:22
  Speaker 16: Seven was attracting capital and deploying investment. Eight was building
• 26:28
  Speaker 16: a skilled and adaptable workforce. Nine was a better tax system,
• 26:33
  Speaker 16: and ten was modernizing government services.
• 26:38
  Speaker 12: Now within those areas.
• 26:40
  Speaker 16: And we've been able to have discussions with ministerial colleagues
• 26:45
  Speaker 16: about some areas where we can act with some urgency,
• 26:49
  Speaker 16: where we can try and capitalize on this momentum which
• 26:52
  Speaker 16: was set by the group in the search.
• 26:55
  Speaker 12: Of quick winds. I wanted to run you through those.
• 26:59
  Speaker 16: First of all, I'm going to work with Don Farrell
• 27:03
  Speaker 16: to abolish more nuisance tariffs. I've agreed with the relevant
• 27:09
  Speaker 16: groups representing the room. We'll do that in a consultative way,
• 27:13
  Speaker 16: but I would like to knock off one hundreds more
• 27:16
  Speaker 16: nuisance tariffs. I'll do that work in conjunction with Don
• 27:19
  Speaker 16: Farrell and others and in consultation. Secondly, we've asked Claire
• 27:25
  Speaker 16: O'Neil to see where we can reduce complexity and red
• 27:29
  Speaker 16: tape in the National Construction Code, to do that in
• 27:33
  Speaker 16: a balanced way which takes into consideration some of the
• 27:36
  Speaker 16: concerns which were raised. You know that this was raised
• 27:39
  Speaker 16: with us in the lead up to the roundtable as well,
• 27:41
  Speaker 16: and so we were able to do some work and
• 27:44
  Speaker 16: we've asked Claire to do that work relatively swiftly.
• 27:49
  Speaker 12: The next one is.
• 27:50
  Speaker 16: To accelerate the EPBC legislation that Murray wat is doing.
• 27:55
  Speaker 16: A power of work on some great work that Murray
• 27:59
  Speaker 16: is doing to accelerate that in line with the principles
• 28:03
  Speaker 16: of the Samuel Review. Stronger standards, faster approvals, more transparency
• 28:07
  Speaker 16: and integrity, and I hope that Murray will have more
• 28:10
  Speaker 16: to say to you about that before long. We've also
• 28:15
  Speaker 16: got a backlog of environmental approvals for new homes, most
• 28:21
  Speaker 16: likely in the tens of thousands and so we've asked
• 28:25
  Speaker 16: Murray to work with Katie with Claire Sorry to see
• 28:29
  Speaker 16: what we can do to knock off that backlog or
• 28:32
  Speaker 16: as many of that backlog as we can, and ideally
• 28:36
  Speaker 16: Claire will have and Murray will have more to say
• 28:39
  Speaker 16: about that before long as well. Katie Gallagher and I
• 28:44
  Speaker 16: wrote to all of the major regulators, as you know,
• 28:49
  Speaker 16: seeking specific ideas on better regulation, d red cutting, red tape,
• 28:55
  Speaker 16: cutting compliance costs and better regulation, working out where regulations
• 29:00
  Speaker 16: not serving its intended purpose and to work out what
• 29:03
  Speaker 16: action we can take there. We have literally hundreds of
• 29:07
  Speaker 16: ideas from the regulators.
• 29:09
  Speaker 12: Which is a very good thing.
• 29:10
  Speaker 16: We are going to check as swiftly as we can
• 29:14
  Speaker 16: and then ideally release those letters to you and to
• 29:17
  Speaker 16: the public in the hope that that generates a public
• 29:21
  Speaker 16: debate about how many of these hundreds of ideas we
• 29:24
  Speaker 16: can pick up and run with. Related to that, we
• 29:28
  Speaker 16: will ask the Council of Financial Regulators to pull together
• 29:32
  Speaker 16: the financial Regulator's part of that, to try and coordinate
• 29:36
  Speaker 16: that work and all those ideas provided to us by
• 29:39
  Speaker 16: the financial regulators, and also to try and elevate the
• 29:41
  Speaker 16: ambition in those ideas. There's an important role for the
• 29:45
  Speaker 16: Council of Financial Regulators. Katie Gallaher will introduce the Regulatory
• 29:50
  Speaker 16: Reform Bill this year to progress what is the tell
• 29:54
  Speaker 16: Us once principle, which is really about not asking people
• 29:58
  Speaker 16: to supply the same information over and over again for
• 30:01
  Speaker 16: different purposes. Katie has already begun some work on that
• 30:05
  Speaker 16: on the We have intended to legislate that, but we
• 30:09
  Speaker 16: will accelerate.
• 30:10
  Speaker 12: That work on tell us once.
• 30:15
  Speaker 16: Similarly, when it comes to accelerating her work in the
• 30:22
  Speaker 16: APS part of artificial intelligence, releasing an APS AI plan
• 30:28
  Speaker 16: as well.
• 30:29
  Speaker 12: Related, Tim As is going.
• 30:32
  Speaker 16: To accelerate his work on the broader National AI Capability Plan.
• 30:37
  Speaker 16: We got some really good inputs into that in the room,
• 30:40
  Speaker 16: including how we work out those national interest principles on
• 30:45
  Speaker 16: data centers with all the resource in questions that that invites,
• 30:49
  Speaker 16: and so Tim was in the room for some of
• 30:53
  Speaker 16: that feedback and that will help him finish the capability plan.
• 30:58
  Speaker 16: I've got the Investor front door pilot starting next month,
• 31:03
  Speaker 16: and we got some very important consensus around how we
• 31:09
  Speaker 16: make that work most effectively. And then finally, there was
• 31:14
  Speaker 16: a lot of support in the room for road user charging.
• 31:19
  Speaker 16: There wasn't a final model settled, but there was a
• 31:23
  Speaker 16: lot of conceptual support for road user charging, and we
• 31:28
  Speaker 16: committed to the group that Daniel Mookie and I would
• 31:31
  Speaker 16: work with Catherine King and other ministers to work through
• 31:35
  Speaker 16: a state's options paper when I meet with the State
• 31:38
  Speaker 16: and Territory Treasures on the fifth of September. So those
• 31:42
  Speaker 16: are all of the areas where we identified relatively swift work,
• 31:47
  Speaker 16: where there's a sense of urgency, or where we can
• 31:50
  Speaker 16: accelerate some important work.
• 31:53
  Speaker 12: Which is underway.
• 31:55
  Speaker 16: The last area is around further work, and I think
• 32:00
  Speaker 16: you all appreciate, certainly we've said publicly for a couple
• 32:02
  Speaker 16: of weeks now that the meeting wasn't to cross every
• 32:05
  Speaker 16: tea and dot every I that inevitably there'd be work
• 32:09
  Speaker 16: to do with ministers, there'd be work to do in
• 32:11
  Speaker 16: a collaborative way with people at the round table. And
• 32:16
  Speaker 16: there is more of this than I was anticipating, certainly
• 32:20
  Speaker 16: more appetite for reform in more areas than what we
• 32:25
  Speaker 16: anticipated going into the room, and so I'll try and
• 32:27
  Speaker 16: run through it as quickly as I can. First of all,
• 32:30
  Speaker 16: beyond the tariff piece in trade, people have been trying
• 32:34
  Speaker 16: to crack this simplified trading system for a long time.
• 32:37
  Speaker 16: It involves a bunch of ministers Farrell, Burke, Collins and others,
• 32:42
  Speaker 16: and so we've got more work to do on simplifying
• 32:46
  Speaker 16: trade and as part of that, considering the Australian Trusted
• 32:50
  Speaker 16: Trader program in I think Tony's portfolio.
• 32:53
  Speaker 12: But with a lot of don input.
• 32:56
  Speaker 16: On better regulation, more work to do on the tell
• 32:58
  Speaker 16: us once principle include in the financial sector, and Danny
• 33:02
  Speaker 16: Molino will help us on that front. Deep dives for
• 33:06
  Speaker 16: priority sectors for better regulation, working out how we deal
• 33:11
  Speaker 16: with the thickest regulation, more work on tech tools to
• 33:17
  Speaker 16: reduce compliance costs.
• 33:19
  Speaker 12: I'm going to do some more work.
• 33:20
  Speaker 16: On whether through statements of expectation or in other ways,
• 33:24
  Speaker 16: that I can encourage a more effective balance between growth
• 33:28
  Speaker 16: and risk when it comes to our regulators. A lot
• 33:31
  Speaker 16: of appetite for kind of redrawing that balance. The Productivity
• 33:36
  Speaker 16: Commission is going to give us some options on the
• 33:38
  Speaker 16: best way to measure progress on better regulation around the world.
• 33:42
  Speaker 16: People have come up with all sorts of targets and benchmarking.
• 33:45
  Speaker 16: We want to make sure that we get that right.
• 33:47
  Speaker 16: On the Single National market. A heap of work commissioned.
• 33:51
  Speaker 16: In the lead up to and after that State treasure
• 33:54
  Speaker 16: is meeting on the fifth of September. We are going
• 33:57
  Speaker 16: to expand national competition policy. We're going to focus on
• 34:01
  Speaker 16: recognizing international standards, harmonizing state and territory standards, expanding national
• 34:06
  Speaker 16: occupational licensing, speeding up project approvals. The radio is a
• 34:10
  Speaker 16: charging piece I mentioned before, and also the heavy vehicle
• 34:14
  Speaker 16: regulation reforms that Catherine and others have been working on.
• 34:18
  Speaker 12: It's a national competition there, he is.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: That's the treasurer of Jim Chalmers live from Canberra. If
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: you want to keep watching that, you can switch over
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: to Sky News Extra channel.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Six to oh three.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: We'll continue with that media conference on channel six to
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: oh three Sky News Extra Treasurer Jim Chalmers there he
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: wrote his PhD thesis on Paul Keating.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: But he ain't no Paul Keating is he?
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: That didn't sound like a great summation of a brand
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: new era of economic reform. He talked about ten areas
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: of consensus direction for reform, things like fixing up the federation,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: having better response times from government, better regulation, a better
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: tax system, all the sorts of stuff governments should be
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: doing anyway, and we'll be anyway, a whole list of
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: areas to follow up, talking about abolishing and nuisance tariffs
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: and the like. The one thing he seems very enthusiastic
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: about is he's going to work with the States for
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: road user chargers. They're all very excited about that, so
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: look forward to that. They'll be talking about electric vehicles first,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: but before too long, mark my words, we will all
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: be paying the government a certain amount of money for
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: every killer meter we drive on our roads. That's where
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: we're heading, whether we're driving electric cars or petrol ones.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: But there you go.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: The Economic Reform round Table has wound up with a
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: long list of bureaucratic follow up. We're going to take
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: a break now. On the other side, I'll catch up
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: with the former Foreign Minister Alexander down to talk to
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: him about Anthony albanezis spat with Benjamin Nettan Yaho. Also
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: get to Alexander Downer's views on Ukraine and the peace prospects.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: As I mentioned, we'll catch up with Alexander Downer in
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: just a.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Moment, but first the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nettna, who
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: has ordered his military to bring.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Forward its takeover of Gaza City. Here's the latest from
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Fox News.
• 36:09
  Speaker 17: Israeli forces beginning the first stages of a new ground
• 36:12
  Speaker 17: operation targeting Gaza City. On Wednesday, Defense Minister Israel Katz
• 36:16
  Speaker 17: approved plans for the next phase, which includes calling up
• 36:19
  Speaker 17: sixty thousand reservists and extending the service of another twenty thousand.
• 36:23
  Speaker 17: The IDF is now urging Palestinians in Gaza City to
• 36:26
  Speaker 17: head south.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to Australia's longest serving foreign Minister, Alexander
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: down to joining us live from Adelaide.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Good to talk to again, Alexander.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: With these military moves going on in Gaza, there is
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: a renewed talk of a possible cease fire, how Mus
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: possibly agreeing to hand over more hostages and agree to
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: a ceasefire.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Has that been brought about?
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Do you think is the new approach from how Mus
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: been brought about by the military action or the posturing
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: of Anthony Alberinezia, the Europeans and the Canadians.
• 37:01
  Speaker 11: Obviously, Hamas says, welcomes the statement by Alberanesi and by
• 37:08
  Speaker 11: some of the Europeans supporting the Palestinian cause, but of
• 37:15
  Speaker 11: course this has been brought about by the threat of
• 37:18
  Speaker 11: the Israelis taking control of Gaza City. So Hamas are
• 37:24
  Speaker 11: now offering to give up well around half of the
• 37:28
  Speaker 11: living hostages. So there are around twenty living hostages left.
• 37:32
  Speaker 11: It's thought give up around ten of them. But you know,
• 37:37
  Speaker 11: in exchange for a cease fire, I think the feeling
• 37:41
  Speaker 11: in Jerusalem will be very much. We need to finish
• 37:44
  Speaker 11: the job. Either they release all of the hostages and
• 37:48
  Speaker 11: lay down their arms, in which case there would be
• 37:50
  Speaker 11: a ceasepire overnight, or else the Israelis will just have
• 37:55
  Speaker 11: to seize control of Gaza City.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: It's not too much to ask. I've been saying it
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: since October the ninth. Our first program after the October
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: the seventh atrocity, that.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Is, handback all the hostages.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: It should be the minimum demand of the international community,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: of course.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Israel as well. Let me just go though to the.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Quite open debate now, the quite open falling out between
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Benjamin Netanyahu and Anthony Albanisi. And there's no doubt that
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: the Israeli Prime Minister has really ramped it up by
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: going on Twitter, making a letter public and then last
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: night speaking with Shari Marksmill. She'll be showing that full
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: interview here on sky at eight o'clock. But he's a
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: bit more of what Benjamin Netanyah has had to say
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: about the relationship with Australia and why the war in
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Gaza matters to everyone.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: What will it take to restore the friendship between Israel
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: and Australia.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: There's been a great underlying friendship therefore over a century.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: I think it's been gone astray because I think leaders
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: did know sure the strength and conviction that they should
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: have when we're fighting, actually we're fighting the war of
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: Western civilization against these barbarians.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Alexander get us.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Just give us your thoughts on this falling out and
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: what the implications are.
• 39:19
  Speaker 11: I think it's truly tragic. I mean, just looking at
• 39:22
  Speaker 11: it from the point of view of the Labor Party.
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: Doctor Evett, as.
• 39:25
  Speaker 11: The Foreign Minister back in the late nineteen forties, was
• 39:28
  Speaker 11: one of the key players in helping to bring the
• 39:31
  Speaker 11: State of Israel into existence through the United Nations. Bob
• 39:36
  Speaker 11: Hawks was of course always a great friend of Israel's
• 39:39
  Speaker 11: and he always used to say that first they will
• 39:44
  Speaker 11: go for Israel and then they'll go for us. That
• 39:47
  Speaker 11: was the It wasn't a unique expression of Bob Hawk's
• 39:50
  Speaker 11: but it's an expression he used, and I think that's
• 39:54
  Speaker 11: what Prime Minister Natanya who is getting at that these
• 39:58
  Speaker 11: people are not just against the Jews, and they don't
• 40:03
  Speaker 11: want just to destroy Israel as a state. These are
• 40:09
  Speaker 11: people like al Qaida before them, and Isis and so on,
• 40:14
  Speaker 11: who want to destroy Western civilization. So Israel is at
• 40:20
  Speaker 11: the forefront of the battle to preserve Western civilization. And
• 40:26
  Speaker 11: it is truly a tragedy. It's truly a tragedy that
• 40:31
  Speaker 11: Australia is not a robust supporter of a great liberal
• 40:35
  Speaker 11: democracy like Israel, but it's found itself being congratulated by
• 40:41
  Speaker 11: an Islamic terrorist organization for its position on this war.
• 40:46
  Speaker 11: It is truly a tragedy. It's so sad to see
• 40:50
  Speaker 11: and it will take many years to rehabilitate Australia's traditional
• 40:55
  Speaker 11: and important relationship with Israel.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, shocking contern of events. Let me get your analysis too,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: if we can squeeze it in of what's unfolded when
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: it comes to Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, Vladimir Zelenski and
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: the striving for peace in Ukraine.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: We had the summit in Alaska.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Not much came out of that, but then the follow
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: up in Washington looks very promising.
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  Speaker 2: Where do you think we're headed.
• 41:23
  Speaker 11: I think it will take time, But in the end
• 41:26
  Speaker 11: I've always thought this is what would happen. There would
• 41:29
  Speaker 11: be some concessions in relation to land. I mean, the
• 41:32
  Speaker 11: Ukrainians clearly don't have any military capacity to win back,
• 41:38
  Speaker 11: for example, crimere. They will just be militarily impossible for them.
• 41:44
  Speaker 11: Only the Americans could do that, and the Americans aren't
• 41:47
  Speaker 11: going to do it. No one's asking them too. And
• 41:51
  Speaker 11: there will be a peacekeeping force in Ukraine, There'll be
• 41:56
  Speaker 11: a line of control, there will be long negotiations about
• 42:01
  Speaker 11: transfer of territory and so on. But by the way,
• 42:05
  Speaker 11: this is where I part company was so much of
• 42:09
  Speaker 11: the media. President Trump is putting a huge amount of
• 42:13
  Speaker 11: time an effort into trying trying to stop this bloody war,
• 42:19
  Speaker 11: and he should be thanked for the efforts he's made.
• 42:23
  Speaker 11: After all, his predecessor, President Biden did nothing to end
• 42:28
  Speaker 11: the war. And ultimately, I think President Trump supporting President
• 42:33
  Speaker 11: Zelenski and the European leaders. Yes, ultimately they will stop
• 42:38
  Speaker 11: the war, and there'll be some muddy compromise, but the
• 42:42
  Speaker 11: fighting will eventually stop.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Great So Alexander thanks for joining us, Alexander down of
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: there live from Adelaide.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: We've got to take a break. On the other side,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Mart Nicholson.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: And Johannes Leek, we'll talk about speaking of Adelaide where
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Alexander Downer was joining us from the AFL's full match
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: band for Isaac Rankin over that homophobe slur. There's so
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: much madness around, let's inject a bit of sanity, hey,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: with Mark Nicholson from step Make Studios and Johannes Leek,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: who's the editorial cartoonists with the Australian.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Good to join.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Good to have you both joining us again. Gentlemen, there's
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: so much craziness around. Let's start with the breaking news
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: and my love, of course, the Adelaide.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Crows footy club.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Isaac Rankin, one of the most exciting players in the league.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Suspended now for four matches, three of those will be finals.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: He's probably gone for the rest of the rest of
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: the year. There is a twist of events where he
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: could be available if Adelaide end up losing a final
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: and then making the Grand Final, but most likely he's
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: gone for the season because he used a word, a
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: word that was once in common usage, used in pop
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: songs and the like mark, Oh, I'm not condoning the behavior. Well,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: we all say it needs to be stamped out. But
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: it's amazing, isn't it? Four weeks for that word. There
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: was another AFL play I got one week a month
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: or two back to threatening someone's life.
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, man. You get less for punching someone
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: in the skyn you'll absolutely get less for actually concussing
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: someone one percent. And when I saw the news, I
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: knew you'd be filthy. As an Adelaide supporter, I thought
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: it straight away. Actually, but it's like, but I don't
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: know anyone that's cheering for this, Like, there's no one
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: footy fans think it's it's ridiculous, Like it makes no
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: sense whatsoever. It seems so outside the rules and president
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: of the game, the woke mob aren't cheering for it.
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: There's no one there doing it. I actually just text
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: a friend of mine who was who's in the gay community,
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: and he just wrote back, mate, very gay. Like, there's
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: no one that thinks this is a good idea. No
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: one's cheering for this at all. I don't know what
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: the AFL is thinking. They've lost their bloody mind.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: They have, indeed, and what makes this awesomely hypocritical. Johanna
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: says that the AFL have got Snoop Dog performing at
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: the AFL Grand Finally, you know his lyrics better than me.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: You're younger than me.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: But I mean, it's all about sexism and homophobia back
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: in the day. They tell me he's cleaned up his
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: act now, but it's all about bitches and hoes and whatnot.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: He's even used the same word that Raken's been banned
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: for in his songs. Yet they're paying him millions to perform.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 45:19
  Speaker 10: I mean, it's too silly for words and not to
• 45:22
  Speaker 10: mention songs about driving, drive by killings and.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: That sort of stuff.
• 45:27
  Speaker 12: But it is.
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it is the new sanitized world we live in,
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: I suppose. I mean, you just sort of think back
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: to some of the football hard men of thirty forty
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: years ago and the sort of things that were said
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: on the pitch that all the you know, on the
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: footy field that stayed on the footy field, and I
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: mean it infantilizes people and then to sort of publicly
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: shame them, and these these statements of contrition that are
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: then sort of pulled out of them.
• 45:54
  Speaker 10: The whole thing is just it's humiliating for everybody. I mean,
• 45:58
  Speaker 10: and yes we don't condone it, but these are adults
• 46:01
  Speaker 10: and the whole thing just reduces. The whole situation is
• 46:07
  Speaker 10: sort of fast, doesn't it.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: It is fascicle.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Let's have a listen to the AFL Chief Executive Andrew
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Dillon addressing the hypocrisy issue with Snoop Dogg.
• 46:16
  Speaker 18: We cannot vouch for every lyric in every song ever
• 46:19
  Speaker 18: written or performed by any artist who has or will
• 46:22
  Speaker 18: appear on our stage, Australian or international. But what I
• 46:26
  Speaker 18: can say is our pre match entertainment on Grand Final
• 46:29
  Speaker 18: day will be family friendly and consistent with the audience
• 46:32
  Speaker 18: at the MCG and those watching the broadcast.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Oh great, so he's not going to sing about the
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: bitches and the hose and the drive by shootings at
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: the AFL Grand Final.
• 46:42
  Speaker 19: Apparently the killer here though, Mark is He says, we
• 46:46
  Speaker 19: won't vouch for every lyric of every song the artist,
• 46:49
  Speaker 19: but we will vouch for every word uttered by every
• 46:52
  Speaker 19: player in every game exactly.
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: That's right. And of course, like you've got to remember, guys,
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: it's like you can get with a bag of cocaine
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: in your pocket as a footage buyer. Nothing for that.
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: Sug will be up there talking about smoking reefers and
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: all that sort of stuff like talk about the impact
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: on children.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: There is none.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: This is ridiculous. But again, no one's cheering for this.
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: There's no one. It's just them patting themselves on the back.
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: It makes no sense.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: It is absurd.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: And we're going to send our love out to Isaac
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Rank and no one thinks you're a bad person.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Mate. We know you made a mistake. We don't agree
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: with the term, but the penalty is way over the top.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: We feel sorry for you.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: You played train and played all your life to play
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: finals and they robbed you of it.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: But you know, soldier up to head high and get
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: there next year.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Let's go to some more madness that you've beautifully you
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: framed for us in your cartoon this week, johannahs And
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: that is the way that Anthony Albanisi is now the
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: hero of Hummas.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: He's being lauded by Hummas.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: And you've got the cheerleadership of Anthony Albanesi and Penny
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Wong with give me an h says the hummus firing squad.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: It's so tragic for this country.
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: Johannahs it is, it is, and I mean, I'm all
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: I'm really doing there, I suppose is sort of you know,
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: illustrating where we.
• 48:09
  Speaker 12: Are, where we're at.
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: I mean, they are being congratulated by Hamas for their
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: recent decisions to recognize a Palestinian state or to promise
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: to do so, and Alban Easy said something along the
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: lines of this isn't about being a cheerleader.
• 48:29
  Speaker 12: This isn't about cheerleading.
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: I thought, thank you very much to me on a planet.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: That was a freud that's what's known as a Freudian slip. Hey, Mark,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on another cartoon. I
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: showed it earlier in the week of brilliant cartoon by
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Mark Knight in the Herald Sun about the Economic Roundtable.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: And he's got the knots of the round table.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: They're not reforming tax, they're not cutting spending, and they're
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: not backing down on their pledge for a working four
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: day working week. And my favorite one, he's got the
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Victorian government there on the end say we're not here
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: because we're working from home.
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's spot on I reckon this. This whole economic
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: roundtable thing felt like a Monty Python sketched, didn't it.
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: That's what it just it just is nailed at Mark
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: Mark Knight. It's perfect because this Yeah, and it's true,
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: they're not they're not. It's not really about outcomes. This
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: whole thing, This whole thing is about getting an alibi.
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: It's this. They're going to be able to pass all
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: of these things and say all of these things now,
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: and they're going to be able to blame it all
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: on this board. So it's almost like they're using this,
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: this round table as a human shield. I wonder where
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: they got that idea from, because that's what they're going
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: to be doing. Every bad decision they make is going
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: to be the roundtable told us to do that. Yeah,
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: that's why we did this actually positive act. That's why
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: we're taxing more. That's why. Yeah, they liked it. That's
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: their problem. Productivity is down roundtables, fop.
• 49:48
  Speaker 12: This is a human shield.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Spot on, spot on, a very good terminology.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: If you think the world is just getting a little
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: bit too crazy and polarized, I want to show you
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: what happened in Washington, d C. When the Vice President JD.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Vance and the Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth decided to have
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: a look around Union Station in DC to look at
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: how the National Guard are helping out with security. Look
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: at the reception from the punters on the street in
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: the heavily left to the heavily Democrat nation's capital. Ruder panah,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: he left, he's losing it. It's just insane. They are insane.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: But JD.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Evance picked up on one of them and pointed out
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: what he was actually the point that was actually being made.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: This is the guy who meets people.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Johannah's not only are they booing and the yelling
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: at and abusing their own government, they're booing and decrying
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: law and order in their own community.
• 51:13
  Speaker 12: Yeah, that's exactly right.
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: They're sort of proving that they have a bit of
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: a problem on their hands.
• 51:17
  Speaker 12: From Washington, aren't they.
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 51:20
  Speaker 12: I love that these cool as a Q companies.
• 51:23
  Speaker 10: Just like, yeah, yeah, I heard you, buddy.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: It's just it shows the polarization that's about the place mark.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: You see this all the time. But we used to
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: just talk to each other and argue things through. It's
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: just people hating on each other now.
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, mate, And to be honest, like, look at the
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: moment the jdv vans got out of that, Like the
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: booze actually fuel the whole message. It's I reckon that
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: would fuel me that I'm doing the right thing. It's
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: just it's a cool thing. It's like, got a cool moment.
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: But who are these people that are at union station
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: waiting for the vice president to turn up so you
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: can boo them. They're unemployed, that's who they are. Like that,
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: it speaks volumes as to who these people are. They're
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: a bunch of losers. So like hearing the booze from them,
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: that would just.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Charge me exactly exactly.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: It's like the booze from the outer at the mcg
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: mate when the crows finally get there.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Ja and Mark.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: We'll catch you next week. We are right out of time,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: so here's Steve Price. I'll see you next week.