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12 Days of The Bachelorette: Thoughts from the OGs · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with I R Radio. Well, we've mentioned it before. This
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  Speaker 1: is the Almost Famous podcast and we're crossovering with our
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  Speaker 1: O G podcast. Yes, Trista Sutter and Bob Guinea are
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  Speaker 1: joining Ashley and I today for a very special episode
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  Speaker 1: about this upcoming season of The Bachelor at Trista and
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  Speaker 1: Bob Welcome, Thank you, Thanks, Hi guys, so thank hi.
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  Speaker 1: So first, let's talk about your new podcast. You guys
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  Speaker 1: have been doing it for about two months now. It
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  Speaker 1: is the Almost Famous o G. The o G s
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  Speaker 1: What has been your favorite episode thus far? People are
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  Speaker 1: loving it. We see the most positive feedback about you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's awfully nice. I gotta say. I will say this.
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  Speaker 1: I um, I went into it, I will say with
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to manage my expectations, you know, like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it'll be fun. Tristan I are, you know, great friends,
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  Speaker 1: and this would be awesome. But it's turned out to
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  Speaker 1: be way more than I expected it to be. It's
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  Speaker 1: really nice of you to say that. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: I've loved it. I have a very difficult time picking
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  Speaker 1: a favorite episode because I literally look forward to it
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  Speaker 1: every week. You know, so I'm setting my clock to
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  Speaker 1: it every week. So and so is Blake about you.
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  Speaker 1: I would have to share the sentiment. I've loved it. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm what I'm actually I'm looking forward to
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  Speaker 1: an episode is having Ryan on because we haven't. I
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  Speaker 1: haven't been able to have Ryan on, and he as
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  Speaker 1: as well as Bob and I are. He's an o G.
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  Speaker 1: You know he was there in the beginning. Is come
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  Speaker 1: on Bob? Yeah, well, I mean not Bob, and he
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  Speaker 1: and Bob were the same because they were on. We're
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  Speaker 1: both courting Trista. I just from that, You're right, I
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  Speaker 1: thought that you guys I have virgin story? He did? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: have you all found it? Has any of the guests
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  Speaker 1: that you've asked, because you've had some tremendous guests, uh
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  Speaker 1: from past seasons. Are they ever shocked that they're getting
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  Speaker 1: asked to be back on a podcast about the Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: Bachelorette or they do they? Does it seem like they've
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  Speaker 1: been asked all, you know, since their times twenty years ago.
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  Speaker 1: I'd say they're shocked so much. Yeah, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's funny. We had Andrew Firestone and UH and Jason Jims.
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  Speaker 1: I know, and Andrew, you know, is a dinosaur much
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  Speaker 1: like me, whereas trist of course is a lovely pterodacty
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  Speaker 1: of that time. You know, Andrew, Andrew has always been
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  Speaker 1: such a blast, and he doesn't he doesn't do a
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  Speaker 1: lot of this kind of stuff. So for him to
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  Speaker 1: come on and do it was a great thing. And
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  Speaker 1: of course Masnick is such a joy. And we found
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  Speaker 1: out something really funny though. You know. Mesnick told us
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  Speaker 1: that he was hanging out with some younger, you know
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  Speaker 1: era bachelor people and they called him, you know, they
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  Speaker 1: were like, oh, you're like the godfather of of and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, then, what is it? The grandfather, the
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  Speaker 1: great grandfather? Yeah, exactly. That's where it gets worse because
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  Speaker 1: I have been called the grandfather or the grandmother. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: not the grandfather. I've been called the grandmother. When people
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  Speaker 1: have you know, gotten a little mixed up with very
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  Speaker 1: godmother grandmother calling us great? I like that. You guys.
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  Speaker 1: Ben is such an old soul and like he wants
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  Speaker 1: to host you know, the old people Bachelor edition. Do
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  Speaker 1: you guys feel like he belongs more with like your
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  Speaker 1: bachelor generation or his own? And Ben, do you which
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  Speaker 1: one do you feel like you belong to Well, I
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  Speaker 1: want to say I've never been called the old people
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor Edition until today. The show isn't generation. Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 1: The new show that's coming out is going to have
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  Speaker 1: you show, uh yeah, dating, And I've been begging. I
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  Speaker 1: haven't asked for anything in the years since my time,
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  Speaker 1: and I've been begging to get an interview to host
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  Speaker 1: that show. I think it would be a blast. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: only I'll vote for you. I'll write Brooke cars in
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  Speaker 1: right now. If we can do it together, let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm all in that. Yeah, I'll be all in as
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  Speaker 1: long as I get to see the behind the scenes
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  Speaker 1: and watch these people fall in love. I would invite
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  Speaker 1: everybody to join me. I just want to be there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I want to be there. That would be great for
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  Speaker 1: it too. I vote for you too. But back to
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  Speaker 1: the question, which which generation does benfit Betteran? You know
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  Speaker 1: I have to I have to agree with you or
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  Speaker 1: I think you said this, Ashley. I've think you are
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  Speaker 1: an old soul. Ben. I can totally see you hanging
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  Speaker 1: out with the seniors and they love you. They love
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  Speaker 1: you Ben diagram. Ben is in the middle. He's the
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  Speaker 1: one that intersects, but he does. He does smack in
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  Speaker 1: the middle. You you're young enough to where you can't
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  Speaker 1: take that like personally that you're like you're like being
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  Speaker 1: like for me, I might I think I'm more on
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  Speaker 1: the seniors because I am almost a senior. I am too,
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  Speaker 1: is the only official senior on the call. Um. I
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  Speaker 1: really started getting like a rpmail last year. And who
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  Speaker 1: does that? You know? I will say that none of
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  Speaker 1: you really fit that mold to me, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm old and I look at you all as children.
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  Speaker 1: I'm this kid. Here's here's my response to it. Here's
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  Speaker 1: the thing that makes me feel better. It's a weird time.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Ashley was on the show before me, So
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  Speaker 1: if I am in you know, the if we're breaking
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  Speaker 1: up generations of Bachelor's now and Bachelorette, then Nashley was
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  Speaker 1: on before me. Here's the thing that does make me
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  Speaker 1: feel better. Thirty three years old. I just saw the
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  Speaker 1: list of people who are coming out for this next
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  Speaker 1: season in the bachelotte which we're gonna get into talking about.
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  Speaker 1: I would be like still kind of one of the younger's,
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  Speaker 1: like kind of right in the middle. Now, if I
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  Speaker 1: went on the show today, which is yeah, which is
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  Speaker 1: wild to me. You know that you had people in
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  Speaker 1: thirty thirty seven. We're going on this season, which I
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  Speaker 1: think is great. I'm really excited to see that. But
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  Speaker 1: it's weird though, considering how long how long ago it
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  Speaker 1: was when I was the Bachelor, it feels like that
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  Speaker 1: I would still be like just entering into that I
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  Speaker 1: feel Ashley, I joked about it last time. I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: you guys feel the same way. And we do need
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  Speaker 1: to get into this season the Bachelorette um. But if
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  Speaker 1: they asked me to go on the show right now
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  Speaker 1: as the Bachelor, there's zero chance I could do it,
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  Speaker 1: mostly because I don't think I could stay awake, Like
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  Speaker 1: I just don't think there's any possibility that midnight, Like
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  Speaker 1: if you know, those are two o'clock in the morning nights,
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  Speaker 1: over and over and over again. Early Yeah, there's just
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  Speaker 1: no I was literally just thinking about this the other day,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm with you on that one. Ben and Ashley
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  Speaker 1: I think can probably relate better with me right now.
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  Speaker 1: Trista can look back and remember this. But with kids
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  Speaker 1: this age and three, um, I'm in bed at eight o'clock,
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  Speaker 1: you like, literally and then I'll wake up at like
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  Speaker 1: midnight to come back to my bed, and then my
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  Speaker 1: three year old comes to get me at like two
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  Speaker 1: and four. So yeah, there's there's no way in and
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  Speaker 1: no chance that I would be able to get through
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  Speaker 1: the night, especially like we had one day in particularly,
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  Speaker 1: we started off as on a private jet to Vegas,
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  Speaker 1: then came back and then I had to do like
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  Speaker 1: my I M T S or whatever I T M
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  Speaker 1: I am and then I boarded a hot air balloon
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  Speaker 1: at like five am, Yeah, to catch the sun rise,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because it's always like so romantic and awesome
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  Speaker 1: to go on a hot air balloon at five am
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  Speaker 1: when you've been up till two People love people love
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  Speaker 1: them brutal. Alright, we have a lot to talk about today.
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  Speaker 1: We have a new season of The Bachelor at coming up.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley and I have been able to do a party.
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  Speaker 1: It's a party for us leading up to this season
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  Speaker 1: The Bachelor, because it's been a while since we've had
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  Speaker 1: a season. We're very excited for this season. Um, we've
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  Speaker 1: had mixed emotions. Just let you guys know on what
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  Speaker 1: it this season could bring about. We don't really know.
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  Speaker 1: There's just a lot of questions. Um, but we're we
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  Speaker 1: are excited to have it back on our televisions, just
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  Speaker 1: to throw it over to YouTube. How are you feeling
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  Speaker 1: about this next season the bat of the Bachelorette with
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  Speaker 1: two bachelorettes. Uh, just you know, spit all your thoughts here.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. I love a change I love a
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  Speaker 1: change up. We've been doing it, you know, they do
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  Speaker 1: changeups kind of maybe every season, maybe other every other
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  Speaker 1: season in little ways, I feel like, but I love
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  Speaker 1: a changeup, especially because it keeps the franchise, It keeps
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  Speaker 1: the show fresh, it keeps it going. Uh. I love
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  Speaker 1: both of them. I think they're very different personalities, but
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  Speaker 1: I think they really Uh, they seem to be great
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  Speaker 1: friends and and I think that's kind of cool having
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  Speaker 1: a friend there to go through the process. Even though
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  Speaker 1: they're going through it at the same time and they're
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  Speaker 1: doing the same thing, it will be stressful, but at
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  Speaker 1: least they have each other, Like, that's super cool that
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  Speaker 1: they have each other. I think. I agree. I like
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  Speaker 1: the idea of it, um to a point, But then
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  Speaker 1: my fear is that it will become one of those
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  Speaker 1: things where oh no to friends fall in love with
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  Speaker 1: the same guy. Now what happens. That's the part I
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  Speaker 1: don't look forward to. So I hope that that isn't
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  Speaker 1: ye know. I hope they both kind of find their
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  Speaker 1: own lanes early and you know, um, each of them,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I haven't had a chance to meet them,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't know them at all, but I would
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  Speaker 1: guess that, you know, I would hope anyway that they
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  Speaker 1: would find guys that were you know, different enough and
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  Speaker 1: there wouldn't be any overlap or any tension. But we
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  Speaker 1: all know the show a little better than that, right,
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  Speaker 1: so there's got to be one overlap. I think they
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  Speaker 1: do their best. Yes, let's go around in a circle
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  Speaker 1: now and give our theories as to what we think
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  Speaker 1: the format of this season is going to be with
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  Speaker 1: two bachelorettes. I will start. I think that they are
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  Speaker 1: going to have the guys come in on night one.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to give him a couple of bachelor weeks,
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  Speaker 1: which we all know that early all on Bachelor Week
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  Speaker 1: equals about three days um, to figure out who they
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  Speaker 1: want to date full term. And I think the guys,
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  Speaker 1: I think, do we think I'll open it up to
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  Speaker 1: the committee here, do we think girls are going? So
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  Speaker 1: I think they're give him a couple of weeks, so
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  Speaker 1: let's say a total of like ten days, and then
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  Speaker 1: somebody in my head my theory of the format, somebody's
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  Speaker 1: going to have to decide who they're going to date. Now,
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  Speaker 1: are the guys going to decide what girls they want
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  Speaker 1: to date or the girls going to decide the guys
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  Speaker 1: that are going to date? Event inevitably, somebody is going
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  Speaker 1: to be hurt because like somebody's like, oh, you want
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  Speaker 1: to date me, Well I want to date that person. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well okay. So my thought is in seeing uh following
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  Speaker 1: Gabby and Rachel on Instagram, and I think Rachel just
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  Speaker 1: did a poster a story saying this is now Gabby,
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  Speaker 1: what did she say? This my Instagram is now like
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  Speaker 1: a Gabby fans best account or something like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was like it was something like that. And so
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  Speaker 1: clearly they are still getting along, right, so they're still friends.
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  Speaker 1: So so I think there's probably some truth to the
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  Speaker 1: fact that they do separate and have them kind of
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  Speaker 1: do two shows in one if you will, um at
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  Speaker 1: the same time, which logistically is a freaking nightmare for
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  Speaker 1: the producers, I'm sure. According to Nick, who has insider dets.
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  Speaker 1: He'sa that it was hell quote quote to produce because
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  Speaker 1: it pretty much is like two seasons totally. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I can't even imagine the logistical nightmares, you know, having
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  Speaker 1: to plan to dates at the same time having they're
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  Speaker 1: going to have to hire a whole other staff of
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  Speaker 1: camera guys. Yeah, true, yeah, you know historically, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if you think about it the last time, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: thinking the last night. So I'm sure there's been another
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  Speaker 1: time like this, But I don't know if you guys
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  Speaker 1: remember the year they had two Bachelor's and then all
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  Speaker 1: the ladies showed up and then they had to choose
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  Speaker 1: which guy and that form did not work. It was
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  Speaker 1: the same as Caitlin. It was Caitlin season. They did
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  Speaker 1: the bachelorret you guys Byron Velvic and Byron and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: how am I just hearing about this now? I feel
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  Speaker 1: like a horrible, horrible hopeful we're not knowing this? What
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  Speaker 1: was it? This is what I'm saying, there are two
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  Speaker 1: separate like generations, because I feel like the other one
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  Speaker 1: started maybe like wal Brad Walmack part two, Like once
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  Speaker 1: he started going around, that's when a whole other audience
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  Speaker 1: started watching. Maybe like Ali season around then, and I
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  Speaker 1: know all that true via, but I know nothing before that,
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  Speaker 1: and I feel by making on behalf of a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people out there. So what year was this give
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  Speaker 1: me deeds? I don't know the exact year, but I
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  Speaker 1: would say it's probably three years, maybe not too much
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  Speaker 1: more than that, just a right, uh, maybe three years
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  Speaker 1: after me. Because Mary Delgado, who was a finalist on
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  Speaker 1: my season, ended up winning being the winner of the
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  Speaker 1: Byron Valvic season. I think there's more more time because
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  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, because I remember her coming back on
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  Speaker 1: Byron season. It ended up being Byron season, even though
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  Speaker 1: there were two guys to start um, she was kind
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  Speaker 1: of like labeled as the old girl, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: she was she was significantly older than I feel like
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  Speaker 1: the other girls who were cast, and so I think
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  Speaker 1: I think there was probably more time. But you're right, right,
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  Speaker 1: I get this all the time. After my season, people
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  Speaker 1: kind of stopped watching, at least like our generation, if
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  Speaker 1: we're going to call it our generation, the O G s,
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  Speaker 1: And they maybe picked it back up later, maybe even
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  Speaker 1: like Ben ben season or JoJo's season, Caitlin, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but in that time in between, I think you know,
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  Speaker 1: there are a lot of Bachelor's. We had the Renzo on, Um,
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  Speaker 1: there was Jake Pavelka. Uh. Who were the other people
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  Speaker 1: that we've recently talked Andy, Travis Stork. Yeah, like right
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  Speaker 1: in there that I feel like, you know, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: have as much viewership, and a lot of people, like
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: you're saying Ashley started watching a little bit later. So
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  Speaker 1: there was a time period where the Bachelorette was even
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  Speaker 1: canceled and they brought it back, which is why we
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  Speaker 1: have an uneven number of bachelor and bachelorettes significantly. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but like, yeah, I've never known. I never heard that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh you guys, that's because we're on Bachelor's season. What
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  Speaker 1: now the Bachelors. I don't think it was ever because
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  Speaker 1: it was canceled. I think it was just because they
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  Speaker 1: red lighted more bachelors and we had four in the
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  Speaker 1: can red lighted green. Yeah. Right, there's that that makes
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  Speaker 1: it uneven too. But I do believe there's a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years where it was like they had done more
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor's very sure, yeah, and there wasn't around for a second. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but like back to this, Okay, Ben, there there was
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  Speaker 1: a time where the girls got to pick between two bachelors,
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  Speaker 1: and nobody remembers this. Why wasn't brought up UM when
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  Speaker 1: Caitlin and Britt came about I'm sure it was like mentioned. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure it was mentioned. But I think we have
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  Speaker 1: if you look at the study, which I mean I've
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  Speaker 1: I've spoken every year. I speak at this course UM
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  Speaker 1: at DePaul University that studies the Bachelor and Bachelorette and
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  Speaker 1: how it affects culture society. Uh, they didn't have segments
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  Speaker 1: on love You every year I speak to it, or
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: I guess every semester whenever there's a new class. I
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: just joined on and I speak to this class. I'm
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: sure they listened to this podcast, so I'm sure now
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: they'd reach out to all of you. It's really fun
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: because they study UM in academia. The effects of this
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: show on society and the effects of this show on
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  Speaker 1: the people, I think if you looked into it, I
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  Speaker 1: do think the Bachelor Bachelor has lasted long enough where
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  Speaker 1: there is a distinct, almost difference between age groups that
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  Speaker 1: watched UH at the beginning and age groups that watch
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  Speaker 1: in the middle, and then age groups that picked it
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  Speaker 1: back up at the end. I don't think people really
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  Speaker 1: associate as much. I think they I mean honestly, and
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a few bachelorettes where people like say,
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah, I recognize that name. I think there's a
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  Speaker 1: few bachelors from you know, the beginning that people be like,
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah, those are bachelor's. But there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people that people forget because I just think it's a
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  Speaker 1: it was a different time and it's a try viewing
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  Speaker 1: a different type of viewership. I mean, you know trist
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  Speaker 1: this season. In my season, I remember seeing something about
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  Speaker 1: it that had like twenty six million viewers a week,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, because ours kind of rolled right into
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  Speaker 1: each other from a viewing perspective, and now, I mean
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  Speaker 1: now I think a big, big viewing week is like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, eight or nine million viewers. Yeah, but the
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  Speaker 1: social media impact is so much more because we didn't
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  Speaker 1: have social media back then. So it's like if you know,
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  Speaker 1: you're watching friends and it rolls that, you know, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: It's like, you know, the viewership back then was so
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  Speaker 1: much more. Um it was just so much greater. But
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  Speaker 1: I think the um what you called the interaction or
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  Speaker 1: or whatever that might be now, you know, is so
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: much different to those different revenue streams for the network
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: and the production company don't make money on this show.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: That's why, you know, when you talk to people on
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: the inside, Hey, everybody thinks the show is gonna get
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: canceled because there's two million people tuning in now and
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: the seasons don't. Well know, they figure out a way
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: to evolve and still make money on this show, uh,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: even though it has changed drastically. Well, yeah, I mean,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I think that's a great point to bring up that
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: we have had two bachelors. I think we're gonna see
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: two bachelors again. Uh, and in the upcoming seasons. I
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: think that's gonna be a thing I do wonder though, Trista,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: especially from you, Jason Tartick. We've mentioned it now many times.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I think it's one of the most interesting things to
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: watch as we watch the next couple of months unfold.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: He has a theory that during the filming of the show,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: it would be really easy because I'm assuming they are
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: talking with each other about their love lives, and they
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: are discussing the drama that's ensuing, and they're kind of
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: balancing ideas off of each other. We have quotes from
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: the two of them saying they're still best friends, um,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: that they really like each other. Jason, though, says, hey,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: that's all great, but it's gonna be harder no matter
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: who you are post show, when the followers come and
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: go and when the opportunities are different for the two bachelorette.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: If you could put yourself back in the place of
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: being the bachelorette and then you're sharing that stage with somebody,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: do you think it would be hard post show to
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: share that spotlight. Maybe not for you personally, but could
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: you see it for somebody? Yeah? I mean, it so
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: hard for somebody. So it's interesting that you bring that up, because, Um,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we were talking about this the
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: last episode, Bob, but Ryan we were. We were talking
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: about why people break up. Yeah, it was last episode
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Bachelor Breakups. And one of the things that Ryan had
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: said was, you know it was it was hard for him.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: He had to go back to work and for the
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: three months I was going to the super Bowl in
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: the Playboy mansion and like Oprah and doing all these
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: crazy fun things, and he can't even tell people that
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: he's engaged, like he's having to like swallow it all
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: and and hear about all these really exciting things, and
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: mind you, yes, he's more introverted and you know, maybe
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: didn't wouldn't have liked those things as much as I.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: But of course the super Bowl he would have died
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: to go to. So um So, I think that it
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: was hard for him, and we brought up that and
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I think still it's I mean, to this day, even
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: though in interviews he doesn't want to talk, so I
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: end up talking more than him to kind of protect
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: him from having to talk um or share anything, because
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: he is more private than I as well. Um So,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: I think that for him and for so many other people,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I would. I would wager that a majority
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: of the breakups that happen in Bachelor Nation are from
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: the uh inequality, the imbalance in attention you know if
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: you will. And I think that's hard because especially, you know,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: for a lot of people. I'm not going to say
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: just guys, because girls have egos too, but I think
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: it will be hard. Now you asked what I would,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: um if it would have been for for me, would
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I have been able to you know? Would I have
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: been okay with that and feel like we would have
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: still been successful? I think so because our emma was
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: let's move to veil, let's focus on our relationship, you know,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: kind of bottom line. And I to this day think
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: that that was one of the major reasons why we
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: have been successful, is that we made that very conscious
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: decision to focus on us and kind of get away
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: from the whirlwind a little bit. You know. We still
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: we still did some fun things, but um but I
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: think that even if there had been another bachelorette, I
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: think we could have done it. It will be very hard,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: especially because social media. The comparisons have always existed in
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: our world. I mean, who didn't grow up and compare
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: yourself to your friend who was you know, has more
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: money and going on these trips and that, you know whatever.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: We all com have always compared ourselves to other people.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: But social media makes it that much more, um difficult,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: and I think it it will be very difficult for them,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: But hopefully they have really good head on heads on
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: their shoulders and their friendship can sustain them through it. Ben,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: were you insinuating like the girls social media followers and
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: them having to like compete against each other there, because
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I think it could be a thing. I mean, yeah,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: it's you know, it's truly if you look at those numbers,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: it's gonna suck because it's going to happen. They're not
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: gonna be equal right now. They're not equal, Yeah, and
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: it means that, I mean, if we're going by the
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: numbers right now, that like Gabby's going to be looked
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: at as the more popular one, and then like Rachel's
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: going to look at that and be like, why do
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: people like her more than me? It's more of a
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: direct competition between the two of them as far as likability.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Then most bachelorettes need to deal with because like every year,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: like the viewership is going to change and there's gonna
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: be people that resonate with others. And I think it's
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: different when it's year to year, but when you're on
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: the same season and you have a direct comparison, I
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be a lot for their egos, just like
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: their overall like mental health. I feel yeah, I was.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say when I did trist this season, Um,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Jamie blythe and I Jamie was another guy that was honest.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: We did all this pressed together. I mean it was
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: kind of crazy, the the amount that we were doing
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: at that time. And I loved it. I loved having
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: him as my buddy to do those things with. And
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: it was great to have a partner and it took
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: away some of the anxiety and you know, all that
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But you're right, that was also before
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: social media, and so you know, I think I think
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: the social media aspect could be interesting because I mean,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: we didn't have to face it the way that they
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: do now. I think it will depend on Rachel's state
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: of mind. Like, you know, if you're saying that that
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Gabby is already I don't know how many followers they have,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: but if Gabby is already kind of being pinned as
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: the most popular one, um, I think it'll just depend
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: and and Rachel seems to be pretty put together and
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: and that she's secure in who she is. So I
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: think it will just really come down to that. Um.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I don't see Gabby like throwing it in her face
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: at all, you know, definitely not, you know, And I
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: think that if Rachel is feeling sad about it, it's
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: simply put by saying like Gabby is the funny one,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: you know, like look at She's the funny bachelor of
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: all time, and she has like the most followers of
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: all bachelorettes. I think I think that is just like
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: something to say to yourself, to be like, you know what,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I'm funny, I'm cute, but like that girl, she could
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: do stand up and that's why people love following. Yes,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: did you see her post just now, um today or
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: maybe this week? It was like, this is proof that
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: our milkshake brings all the boys to the going to
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: be good and like, you know, let's not forsake the
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: idea that you know, possibly they're both with somebody and
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: your partner matters a ton post show, on that support
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: and on that guidance and that care and just letting
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: you know, hey, no matter what this whole thing was for,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: like we ended up together and that's as much, that's
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: more than any amount of followers or money or attention
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: that's going to come in. So so true. Hey, Ashley,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I have a I want to ask all three of you.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Uh kind of been closing here, but I'm very interested
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: because Ashley really stays up on the show and contestants
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: and where they're at reality. Steve has claimed that there's
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: gonna be a fan favorite uh show up to this season. Uh,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: and there's been no leaks or spoilers on who this
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: fan favorite will be. I want to hear your theories
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: on which fan favorite is going to show up this season,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: what thoughts, and then I would love to hear why
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: you think that person would show up and if you
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: don't have an answer, I have a thought. Okay, well, yeah,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: you go first. So Gabby is from Denver. I don't
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: know if they've ever met. You guys are good friends
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: with him? Blake? Maybe it's Blake? Why would why would
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: it be black? But Blake just went with a girlfriend,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: yeah this last week? Oh never mind. Then I'm totally wrong.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say Dean, and Dean
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: would have been so fun because he and Gabby used
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: to date. Wait a second, isn't Dean with Kaylin? But
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: he's with Kaylin and he would never do that, He
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: would never say yes. Such silliness. I feel like Nick
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Viles making a comeback if he's in a relation show.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: But I mean, I haven't seen him on the Bachelor
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: and a Florida, Florida. Okay, who's from Florida? So Rachel's
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I think it's Honestly, here's my guess, um, just throw
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: out there. I think Connor, who was the cat guy. Uh,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I think he's going to come back. Yeah, I think
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: he's going to come back. Pilot Pete maybe, I think
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: wish Pilot Pete's out. We just did a hot topic
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: that he did not come to an agreement with production
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: on the number of cash alarms can take him to. Yea,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: he was going to be on Bachelor Ed or Bachelor
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: in Paradise. He wasn't Paradise. So, Ashley, you're usually really
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: good at this. Um, I think it's super fun thing
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: to think about. Listeners. Uh, please write us your thoughts
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: at Ben and Ashley at I heart meaty dot com.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: We want to hear from you. Who do you think
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: could go on this season? No spoilers, please just guess, Ashley,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: though you're good at this game, who do you think
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: it could be? Well, everybody wants a joke that it
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: would be Blake Moyne's right, Yeah, it's not going to be.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be Bachelor's favorite favorite. Now
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I have a shocking one that might spur your mind
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Okay, Zach Clark, that would be so good. Well,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: but then again, it wouldn't be so good because I
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: don't want Taitia to have to see that. But for
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: they're broken up. I think he's no, he has no
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: interest in this. Okay, if anyone Matt grants sorry, Matt Um,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, why am I blanking on the same
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Matt and Rachel Um, Matt James, Matt James, thank you.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: His best friend from New York, huge fan favorite, Tyler
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: wouldn't do it. What about Sean Beeth, I don't think it.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: He's not a fan favorite. Are good? Point? Okay? Fair enough? Okay, okay, okay,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: So I think I got it. Brad Well, mac Ben,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: can you just let me think about this for a
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: couple of days and I'll get back to you on it,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: hopefully before reality Steve spoils who it actually is. Yeah, yeah,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: that's fair. Well. Hey again, the almost famous o G
• 30:32
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• 30:35
  Speaker 1: hear uh. People really enjoying it. I think it is
• 30:39
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• 30:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of people who watched the seasons before kind
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: of felt disconnected from the last few seasons and felt
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: like they didn't have a place within Bachelor Nation any anymore.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: You're bringing that place to them and I think it's awesome.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: So thank you both Trista and Bob for doing it,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: and thank you for joining the almost Famous podcast. Back you, Um,
• 31:00
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• 31:02
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• 31:06
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• 31:09
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• 31:12
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• 31:14
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• 31:19
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