Latest / Walk Talk: Faith in Motion / Recap & Comments Review (20 Episodes)
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- Randy: Well, we never thought we would be here, but here we are. Got a big announcement for all of you guys today on this episode of the walk talk. Stay tuned to find out what it is. Pj: That's right. big two ⁓ man. Randy: So the announcement we wanted to make was we made it 20 episodes. Thank you all for listening this long. Pj: Yeah, yeah, whoever's been along on the journey, man, we really appreciate it. We hope that you're finding some good content and we hope that that God is blessing conversations being had, man. It's awesome. Glad to be here, man. Randy: Absolutely. And even though, you know, by the stats, by the numbers, 20 is not that many episodes. And if you look at our total viewing hours, it's really just a tiny little drop in the bucket compared to some of the bigger podcast shows out there. 20 is actually still a pretty major milestone. Did you know that, brother? Pj: I had no idea honestly until you kind of told me how significant it is so blessing Randy: Yeah, I think it was something like 80 or 90 % of podcasts that are started don't make it to their 20th episode. So the fact that we've made it this far already puts us in the top 10, 20 % of podcasts, even with the tiny ⁓ size of our audience as it is today, but we appreciate every single one of you. Pj: Absolutely, and I'll be honest man. I get it because you know it's it's not easy. I you know I I'm sure that there are podcasters and youtubers or whatever that just you know they this is all they do and they they can't wait But I mean you know for I believe I can at least speak for myself You know like there's so much going on. You know what I mean, and I mean I'll be honest There's there's been plenty of times where I'm like you know still asking God like, is this still what I should be doing? Because I got a lot of stuff. I got a lot of arms in the fire, Lord. And ⁓ which I might not know is Randy and I, it's tough sometimes. He's busy as well. Us just trying to coordinate schedules to just get together and have these conversations. Randy: Right, right. Pj: try to get y'all involved in a minute. It's tough sometimes. So I get it, man. To be honest with you, I'm glad that we made it. And I'm still excited to see what the Lord is going to do with it, Randy: Yeah, I mean, you we've had these kinds of conversations a lot over the years, but never as consistently as we've had to, you know, just because we decided to start recording them. And I know that, you know, for me, it's been super helpful because we know we're able to have these conversations very regularly. Whereas before we might go weeks or even months without having a conversation. Then we would talk for two or three hours. ⁓ at this rate, it's, it is very much a challenge to find time to actually sit down and hit the record button and, know, all that goes into even preparing to even hit that record button. ⁓ but again, you know, I, I do feel like it's, ⁓ you know, something that's, is going to continue to grow. God's going to continue to bless and hopefully, you know, ⁓ you know, you guys who are listening are getting something out of these conversations and it's generating your own conversations out there in your world as well. Pj: Absolutely. And I mean, it's a whole different dynamic, right? Where before if something pops into my head or I read something cool or saw something that I wanted to share, I just hit the phone, hit you up. And now, I mean, that was easy, know, effortless, whatever. But now those conversations being set up like this, there's a lot more that goes into it. So it's a little bit different dynamic. You know what mean? It's not. And then even still, it's like those conversations, it's like, man, We're going to say we're going to have to save this. We're going to have to put a pin in this and come back to it whenever we can hit record. So yeah. Randy: Absolutely. Yeah. And there actually has been times just to give you all a little bit of behind the scenes. There have been times where I'm like, Hey, like let's, you know, stop calling me. ⁓ I'm not going to call you. We're not going to talk about this until we're recording because sometimes we're like, Hey, this would actually be, we'll get into a conversation. And we're like, this would be really good stuff that people might get some value out of. Let's wait and talk about this later. So we've had to kind of hit the hit the pause a couple of times. Pj: Amen. Randy: So with that, here we are, our 20th episode, another milestone episode. And just like we did at episode 10, we want to kind of do a recap. We're going to go through and talk about the last episodes that we've done and maybe some things that we thought of after the fact that we wish we would have included. And then also kind of go through some of the comments that some of you all have left. Now I know this, noticed that there's not a lot of comments on the YouTube videos themselves, but there are a lot of comments on the shorts. So we'll probably kind of bounce around a little bit between where we're finding comments and just give a shout out to the people who are engaging with us and in our response to those comments as well. All right, so let's see. ⁓ episode number 10 was when we talked about listener comments. Episode 11 was all about tongues. So that was the episode where we got into ⁓ our viewpoint on what tongues is really all about. We talked about the interpretation of tongues on the day of Pentecost. We talked about, I think it's called glossolalia and our viewpoint on that. ⁓ Pj: No, so I think that was one of things we talked about after. ⁓ glasa is the word that literally means languages. since then, ⁓ people have basically tried to, off of glasa meaning languages, have tried to create another word called glossalia or something glossalia. Something along those lines. Yeah, something basically to tie Randy: Okay. Vasilelia, I think it's called. Pj: tongues to that. It's way after the fat kind of thing. That was kind of interesting. Randy: Yeah. Yeah, and then isn't that also where you told your story about ⁓ your experience at your church in that episode? Okay. Pj: Yes, yes. And, ⁓ you know, I do have an update on that situation. I don't know ⁓ that I'll get into it here. ⁓ I will say if it's not good, God's not done. I'll leave it at that. Randy: All right. All right. All right. So I don't see any comments for us to give a shout out to, but anything else that you would mention on the topic of tongues. Pj: Nope. Randy: Yeah, I think we covered that one pretty good. I think that there's definitely a lot of different opinions on what tongues are and especially on the topic of glossolalia. If you haven't checked out the episode on tongues, please check it out. It's definitely worth a listen. All right. And then let's see. Pj: ⁓ hold up. do, man. I forgot. So I do have something to add to the tongues episode, man. And this was ⁓ awesome. A huge blessing. And I forgot about it because I had somebody reach out to me directly. ⁓ Man, let me see if I can find this. And I won't put him out there. ⁓ I apologize, man. I should have had this. But I just literally thought about it. ⁓ Randy: Okay. Pj: It's kind of long and I won't read the whole thing, but he said, Hey, I'm not trying to bother you or anything. I just wanted to thank you for your recent take on tongues. I'm not reaching out because, he's on a podcast, but I do remember a night that we spent together and you came with your Bible and was pumped up and ready to explore even more and fellowship, but seeing your takes in your views, I thank you. I feel watching that I was discouraged from digging deeper in my walk because one of my first experiences in the church was with the Pentecostal church and they implemented that if you didn't speak in tongues, you didn't have the Holy Spirit. So I'm reading the Bible and praying, but I'm not good enough or doing something wrong because I don't speak in tongues. And so it kind of had me withdrawn and from pursuing it further. so he just I'll just leave it at that. But he was basically just kind of explaining and sharing his heart with me that Randy: Mmm. Pj: You know, he felt like he was doing it wrong because he hadn't experienced this yet. And other churches had kind of put this idea in his head. It's like, no, man, you're not there. You're not doing it right or something. And so, man, we kind of had a talk a little back and forth. And I was like, listen, man, I encourage you. said, I don't have it all figured out. But it's just good to see. Randy: Right. Pj: It resonating with somebody and him feeling a little bit of comfort and saying look, you know at least I have this other way of Being able to view it like it's not me doing something wrong. Maybe it's just you know, I haven't got there Maybe whatever but I guess just having that expectation on you of like thing if it's not happening to me like am I saved am I doing this like that's that's a lot man, it's heavy and so it was just good and you know, I give God all the glory for that, but it was just as well man, and I forget that that happens sometimes but yeah Randy: Yeah. Pj: So. Randy: Well, good. No, thanks for sharing that. And yeah, I mean, I know exactly where he's coming from. And we kind of touched on that a little bit on the episode, how in our own personal experiences, we've been to churches and in part of conversations where that kind of is the vibe. Like if you don't speak in tongues, it's almost like you're not really a Christian. So. OK, so let's keep going then. So let's see. So that was episode 11. Pj: Right, right. Randy: Episode 12, we talked about Christian media. So, and man, we could probably do a follow up to that one too, because I know we talked about some of our movies that we like or dislike and TV shows that are, you know, in music, you know, all in the realm of Christian media. And it looks like we did get a comment from Carbohal 504, which says, great conversations. I agree so much with both of you. It's so hard in these days as we can get easily distracted. Pj: Yeah Randy: even towards being off offended or turned off. We can miss the opportunity to see how it could all be used to either draw us closer or pull us away from price, but we need to learn how to use discernment and follow the spirits leading. Great. ⁓ let's see. Great conversation guys. Yeah. So, so appreciate that. ⁓ Carbohol five, five ⁓ four. ⁓ thanks for, thanks for the comments and totally agree. I think the sermon is huge. And like we talked about in the episode, a lot of it is just preference. There are shows that, you and I, man, we disagree on some of the shows that we like for very different reasons, sometimes for the same reasons, something that you really like about a show, really turns me off about a show. But some of it is, yeah, we need to let the Holy Spirit guide us and have that sermon. And some of it ends up just being preference in what we choose to. gravitate to for our entertainment. Pj: You know, whenever we did the Book of Enoch episode, I really kind of went back to to this Christian media one in my mind because I'm like, man, you know, it's like, you know, I think that I'm just gonna go ahead and say if you haven't watched season two of House of David, it's dope. I'm just telling you. ⁓ man, it's so good. I encourage you to check that out. And again, think about it from from the lens of Randy: Is it? good? Pj: what it is versus what it isn't. It's not a substitute for your Bible, but it is cool seeing it come to life and seeing those things play out. ⁓ It might not be complete canon the way that they tell the story, but it's awesome and love it. Love it. Love it. Randy: Hey, brother, I'm gonna have to edit this part out. I got to move my curtain because the sun's like hitting me right in the face right now. Pj: Okay. That's even worse. ⁓ wait, no, it's not bad. I would say like whenever you Randy: Is that any better? It's a little bit better maybe. Pj: Yeah, a little bit. It's like on the top of your hat, Randy: See, this is one of reasons why I wanted to move to the basement and set up differently. Cause now it's summertime. The sun is like changing angles. It's moving further and further into my window. Like a couple of episodes ago, it was barely hitting the corner. Now it's like, ⁓ like a, like 20 % into the window by the time we're, by the time we're full fledged summer, if we're doing it at this time, it's going to be directly like hitting my side of my face in this. don't even have a way to close it. You know what saying? Pj: You should ask Andrew if you can borrow his sheet and just put it over your window. Randy: All right, we'll cut we'll cut this out here I'll put the tea right here for timeout so I know where to crop it out. All right, you ready? Pj: Yes, sir. Randy: All right, so let's keep it going here. So let's see. ⁓ Next, we'll take a look at episode 13. ⁓ shoot. Now my phone's ringing. Hold on. Pj: Tython 13. Tython Ahem. I can't deal with this unprofessionalism. Randy: Jeez, man. Pj: I can't deal with this level of unprofessionalism. Take three. ⁓ man, yeah. Randy: My bad brother. All right, ready? Okay. The other time out. right. All right. So let's keep it going. So episode 13, we talked about tithing. Pj: Show me the money. Randy: Show me the money. Let's see. another, another comments. ⁓ no way. Hold on a second. Nope. I'm looking at the wrong comments here. Let me, let me go to the right episode so I could get the right comments. ⁓ while I'm looking that up, was there anything that you, ⁓ feel like you didn't say that you wish you would have said or any of the thoughts that came to your mind after we recorded on tithing? Pj: ⁓ No, I think that that one was another one that we kind of got it all off of our chest. ⁓ I think it's good, It's another one of those, I don't know if the right word is taboo, but just one of those things that people don't like to talk about. ⁓ Randy: Yeah. Yeah. And there aren't any comments. I don't see any comments on the channel regarding tithing, but here's something that I thought about afterwards. And, this might be a little bit ⁓ controversial, but you know, I think most Christians would agree that when we talk about the church, we are talking about us as believers. The church is not a building. The church is not an organization. Pj: Yeah. Correct. Randy: But a lot of times it gets referred to as an organization, as a building, as a place. And I just want to say the controversial part is that really these churches, quote unquote churches that we attend, that we go to these, you know, I heard someone talking about this the other day and it's not, doesn't just apply to mega churches. However, it probably really applies extra to mega churches, but these are businesses. These are businesses. ⁓ you know, most of what you tithe, most of the money goes to the salaries of the people on staff. On average, it's only something like 10 % of what you actually give to these organizations, to these businesses, actually even goes to any sort of like real ministry. The rest is for overhead and salaries and things like that. So I didn't really talk about that too much when we were talking about tithe, but I think it's worth people mentioning that there is this whole conversation out there, it has been happening for, you know, really 2000 years over whether or not pastors should even, you know, earn a salary or whether that they should be, you know, they should have a vocation outside of the ministry. And, you know, like Paul mentions, Paul gives the examples and a lot of people refer to what Paul talked about how he like, you know, had various different trades that he worked while preaching the gospel. to say that that's the example that pastors should follow. So I'm not here to argue one side or the other on that whole topic, but just to say that there is a conversation that has been happening ⁓ and there is a disagreement within the church. And at the end of the day, these churches that you are donating to, that you are giving your quote unquote tithe to, whether or not that's something that even still exists, I mean, it's just worth thinking about where that money's going and who you're actually giving it to. that's kind all I had to say on that. didn't really mention that in that episode. Pj: Yep. Good stuff. Good stuff, man. Randy: All right, so with that, let's move on then to episode, that was 13. So episode 14 is where we got into the kingdom of heaven. That's one of my favorite ones, by the way. I loved our conversation. I could talk about heaven all day long because as we talked about in that episode, I really do believe heaven is not something we wait for. I believe that heaven is something we start living right now as believers here on this earth. And it's only gonna get better once we have the new heaven and the new earth. Pj: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Which is, which is kind of funny, right? Because it's contrary to the opposite belief that hell is here and now on earth. And so, yeah, but Hey, we'll, we'll get into that another time. Randy: Yeah, we'll get into that when we talk about the satanic Bible. Yeah. All right. So let's see here. No comments other than my own comments saying testing one, two, three, just to see if anyone's out there listening. Didn't get any, uh, you know, I threw the hook out there. It didn't really get any bites. Um, but we'll see, try to keep our finger on the pulse. I'm really interested to hear though. Um, from anyone who's maybe listening now. Pj: You Trying to keep my finger on the pulse. Randy: Go back and check out our episode on the kingdom of heaven. See what you guys think because you know, we really had a great conversation. And in my mind, the kingdom of heaven that is being implemented, that was started at the time of Jesus and is being implemented up until post judgment when you know, he is going to rule here on earth in the new earth. In my mind is just a reestablishment of what was originally set in place with, you know, spiritual. beings and principalities and thrones that were put on this earth and I think you know that I'm really interested to hear what you all think about that whole concept of the earth being divided according to the number of angels and God's counsel and how that early how what we're establishing now is really the renewed version of that original kingdom. So really interested in everyone's thoughts on that. Alright, anything else on the Kingdom of Heaven from your perspective, Pj: I mean, there's a lot, which is why we did episode 15 heaven part two. ⁓ And and honestly, man, I again, we could we could do we could do a 12 part. mean, there's I mean, there's so much to say, man, there really is. ⁓ And it's cool. I've seen some pretty interesting perspectives on heaven ⁓ from that Josh Howerton. Randy: Heaven part two, did anyone leave any comments on that one? Let's see. Pj: Pastor Josh Howardson and a couple other people, man. And it's just a lot, you know, and like I think we did cover pretty good in that episode. It's like for the number of times that heaven has mentioned, like still the vagueness around it is wild, man. It's like you talk about something a lot, would assume you would know more about it. But there's a lot there's a lot to be desired to know there, you know. Randy: Yeah. Right. Yeah, 100%. All right. So let's see then that takes us to the first solo episode ⁓ that we did called aliens are demons. And this was kind of a response to, ⁓ vice president JD Vance coming out and saying that he believes that aliens are demons. And, you know, honestly, it's something that's been cooking up for years in my mind, because it's, he's just the latest person that I've heard say that, but definitely not the first he's one of many. So I'm not seeing any comments on that one brother, but I mean that one was solo. so what's your take? Pj: I loved that one, man. was one of my favorites. I was pumped up. It had me going and researching some of the stuff that you said. I mean, just the fact that, like you mentioned, man, the vice president saying, acknowledging not only angels, I mean, excuse me, not only aliens, but demons as well. Man, what a time. What a time to be alive. you know, similar to how Jesus tells us to be aware of the signs of the times. Randy: Right. Pj: And like whenever stuff like that starts being just dropped openly talked about like, you know, things that were so, so hush hush. It's like, man, you better keep your head on the swill when your eyes open. You know what mean? So. Randy: That's right. Yeah, I mean, we got to be we got to be, you know, wise as serpents, gentle as doves. And I think part of that wisdom is to just be aware of what the Bible tells us to, you know, be wary of what it warns us about. And to like you say, keep your head on that swivel to see like, is it is it actually happening? Because we hear different things, you know, I think it was Jesus himself who said that, you know, that the final days will be like the days of Noah. Right? He refers to, he's the one who actually said that I believe in, in what does that mean? Like, yeah, they were giving in marriage and, you know, celebrating and reaping and sewing and things like that. But there were some other things that were happening in the days of Noah. That's very unique to the days of Noah, AKA the Watchers and the Nephilim, which were walking to earth in those days. So, I mean, if, if Jesus himself said it's gonna be like in the days of Noah, what was happening in the days of Noah? Maybe we need to, know the full picture and not just assume that it's just a general statement about corruption or anything like that. Pj: Yeah, yeah. So that solo was was, ⁓ feel a good preface to episode 17, which is where we decided to kind of get into the Book of V-knock there and, you know, see some of these these books that were not included in the canon anymore, ⁓ but one time ⁓ were have also ⁓ been with, you know, some of the the ⁓ scriptures ever found or written. Randy: Yeah, yeah. Yep. Gotcha. So let's see here. So in that kind of started, that kind of started off our, our mini series, if you will, on looking at different books outside of the Bible, right? So we talked about the book of Enoch as the first one and we got into it and it looks like we do have one comment. One comment from a Tyler Durden 8713. I don't know if you've seen that comment, brother, but It's some constructive feedback for us. Did you see it? Pj: Let me get there. I don't know what the ⁓ I see Randy: I'll read it. Yeah. ⁓ you want to read it? Go ahead. You read it. Pj: I know what the point of this podcast is. One doesn't even remember all the details and the other never read it. The American flag hat just wants to argue but keeps saying he doesn't even remember. Wow. So I'm guessing that would be you the American flag hat. Randy: Hahaha I guess so. Yeah. So yeah. I mean, all right. Well, thanks for the feedback at Tyler Dyrden 87 13. Like we mentioned, we said we would read you guys's comments and, and, and, uh, we, we'll definitely try to work on making sure we, uh, got better notes for the future podcasts. So that way we could argue the right points. At least he listened and is engaged. I'll take that as a win. Thanks for listening to the show. Pj: Yep. mean, I guess I'd be curious ⁓ if Tyler has read it and if he can kind of enlighten us on, you know, on some of the key points that we might have ⁓ needed to touch on. Randy: Yeah. And I would say that my response to what's the point of the show, it's exactly what we say in the intro. We're just two regular guys just having a conversation. You know, we used to have these conversations a lot before we started recording them. Now we're just recording them. If you get something out of it, then great. If not, then, you know, no hard feelings. Pj: That's right. Randy: All right, so then after the book of Enoch, we went on to the book of Jubilees, right? And so before, so I did, I did another solo on the book of Jubilees. I don't know if you had a chance to catch that one. That one just came out earlier this week, right? Pj: Yeah, I haven't watched the solo on the Book of Jubilees, but I would like to note that we did both read that one. So it was a good episode. We had fun discussing that one and some really interesting stuff in the Book of Jubilees, ⁓ Yeah. Randy: Hahaha So essentially, Tyler, I hope you check out the book of Jubilees as well, because we did actually read that one a lot more recently and had a lot more notes that were relevant. ⁓ In this episode, ⁓ the solo, it's a much shorter episode. I just kind of summarized some of my takeaways and some of my main points. And then in episode 19, we actually get into a conversation. And so episode 19 titled, The Little Genesis. is really just a conversation between the both of us kind of comparing our notes on the Book of Jubilees. Pj: Right. And that leads us to this episode 20, the big two zero. Randy: Episode 20 the big two zero. So let's see what was there any comments on any of last two? Nope, no comments at this point. Pj: So, and look, I'll be honest, ⁓ from what I can see, we do get a good bit of engagement on the shorts. People ⁓ do leave comments. ⁓ With those, I'll be honest, I'm not as ⁓ quick, I guess, to answer those because, for one, a lot of that stuff is just taking a snippet, right? It's kind of like the same concept of... Randy: Right. Pj: of taking a burst out of context. know what I mean? So and then, you know, I'm aware of, ⁓ you know, the way some people, you know, kind of just like to throw out stuff just to kind of see if they can, you know, frazzle you and get under your skin or say this, that, the other. And that's OK. I'm fine with all of it. You know, that's, ⁓ you know, if you're more than welcome to express however you feel, you know, whatever. ⁓ Randy: Right. Pj: That doesn't affect my peace. But yeah, so that that is why, you know, I haven't responded to any of those comments. I do appreciate the people who are taking time, whether it's good or bad. You know, the only thing that I can say is, you know, I hope it plants a seed, ⁓ you know, hope, you know, God works it out for his good man. Yeah, so we get it. We get a ton of those men. I haven't, to be honest with you, even I haven't gone through all of them and checked. Randy: Yeah. Well, let's go through, let's go through some of them now, because I haven't spent a lot of time looking at the shorts. There's so many shorts. mean, we're our shows are hour long. So, you know, that gets broken out into dozens of shorts and the shorts are obviously going to get a lot more views and engagement. So it's a lot harder to keep up on. But I got some of them right here. So I'll start at the bottom of the list and look at one that's about a month old from at Gangsta, the mighty forty one eighty. which said, this must been in relation to our show on Christian media. It says that, that a really good, think that's a really good point. I think if a Christian production would take a risk on making a film that speaks to the sinner like Jesus did, ⁓ like Jesus did might make a, the rest of it's cut off, might make a difference in someone's life. Hey, I think that's a good comment. you know. In other words, they're basically agreeing with us that there could be some better production value in some of the Christian movies that are put out. Thanks for the feedback and the engagement. Appreciate that. ⁓ let's see, got another one here at Francisco Trujillo, 82 69 commented tongues in the church is fake. It's spoken about. It is spoken about in the Bible. This is not of God. Okay. So I know that's a lot of people's perspective. ⁓ Francisco Trujillo, ⁓ some people would argue that, ⁓ you know, tongues is real. ⁓ We definitely see tongues in the Bible as ⁓ a miraculous interpretation. I think if you're referring to the glossolalia, that one is definitely more of a debate. All right, so let's see here. ⁓ This one must have been again about Christian movies. Stephen Tucker, 2714 says, right, because that's the purpose of the Christian film. They're not trying to sneak it in. It's always put forward. I'm guessing that was probably in response to someone else. Let's see here. whatever other comments on that same thread. So it says, I'm glad I'm not the only one. I'm a Christian. I love God. I praise the Savior. I want to support all things Christian, but man, 99 % of Christian movies are so bad, terrible acting, boring story, low budget. There's a few great movies though. In response to him, Robbie7557 says we have a lot of stuff that we just don't really notice like Lord of the Rings or Chronicles of Nordea. One has very deep themes for Christianity. The other is a straight allegory. think going the other way feels weird to people. And then that's when Stephen Tucker's made his comment saying, right, because that's the purpose of the film. Pj: You Randy: And that's very similar to the conversation we were having. Pj: And look, I love this because you have three people right here sharing their hearts on Christian media basically with each other. And that's the goal to me. That's awesome. That's awesome. So appreciate those people mentioned in that comment. That's awesome. Randy: 100%. Yep, I agree. I agree. All right, so let's see what else we got here. ⁓ let's see. Hmm. Not sure what this short was about, but someone named Christopher rush 86 48 just says he ain't lying. Hey, and we're not Christopher rush. We try and we try to be honest as honest as we can. Pj: Yeah, yeah, as honest as I'm aware of being, you know what I mean? Randy: All right here, let's see here. ⁓ Okay, so this was a comment on a short titled, Babel's reversal, why tongues don't equal secret prayer. Trohasbp9ej said, or alien for that matter, or no, that was a response to his own comment. His first comment says, at five seconds in, why would you show the demon lamb from ours to Crowley? And then, an alien for that matter. Hey, those, a lot of those shorts are just, you know, B-roll from AI, so who knows why. It filled in with some of that stuff, but don't really have a direct answer for you. You want me to keep going, man? Or do you see any that you wanted to call out? Pj: ⁓ Yeah, I'm just following along in an order and I'm trying to see Which one this one was a reference to I guess it looks like another one apparently the Christian media one got got some good feedback I believe that this is what it's This is that Man, I don't even know B T R H a n vr Size BF one not sure how to pronounce that but anyways, he says this man is Absolutely correct. This is why the Pharisee approach of cherry picking, attacking shaman drives people away. But that's all the church does is misuse the Bible as an attack weapon. And that's not what it is for its system. I'm sorry. It's systems layout framework explanation. the pew sitters only want to gossip and attack and cherry pick and try to battle instead of explaining things about the. Systems manual to help people understand you're all turned the word of god into shaming weapon and it's sacrilege. Whoo. Sorry, that's there was Just a bunch of words. No periods. ⁓ and and man, you know, ⁓ the to whoever left this comment I Man, I I kind of kind of feel your heart and your frustration and and and don't be discouraged. I mean I you know It is something that happens, you know, and it's sad and I'll acknowledge that. But man, all we can do is give the same grace and mercy and prayer for, you know, the people who are doing it and the people it's happening to and not let the devil use that as a footstool or foothold to, you know, get us going the other way. But yeah, thanks for thanks for the comment. Randy: Yeah, I appreciate that too. And, you know, appreciate the comment. Appreciate the engagement. I think valid concerns and, know, definitely just we got to have grace for each other. Pj: I think I think you paid somebody for that. No, I think we agreed here. So this is not a paid ⁓ comment. at Farrell Hansi, 5914 said, agree. Jim Cavie is the best. ⁓ Yeah. Yeah. Randy: What's that? Jim Cavie sold the best Jesus there was. That must have been a response to our Christian media. Pj: Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, it looks like the majority of these really were so I'm glad that y'all enjoyed that episode uh and and y'all found some value in there but yeah man I mean it's it's really hard to beat Jim Cavie's portrayal of Jesus I mean you know I mean obviously I think I think I clarified in uh in that episode by saying that Jesus is actually my favorite Jesus but if anybody else who's portrayed him It's hard to beat Jim Caviesel. And ⁓ yeah, and look man, I don't know if you had heard, but from what I understand, they're working on the follow-up basically where he's going to reprise the role of Jesus about the resurrection. And I would love to see the way that they'd portray that, man. I think it would be some good stuff. So I'll be looking forward to that. Randy: I agree in terms of actors. Mm-hmm. Part two. All right, here's a not so happy comment at Sharon ports commented. This gave no information what hymns is insulting to people and what was written in the hymn that was so offensive. So I got to guess that was probably in response to our conversation or that some of the songs that we sing as worship. I don't think we should be singing because I don't feel like they're really worship songs. I don't know if we really said anything was offensive. Definitely never called out any specific hymns, but. Pj: you Randy: It was more, I think in relation to like songs that are on the radio that are maybe not worship praise and worship songs that end up getting sung in church as praise and worship songs. Pj: Or also, mean, to that point, like if there was maybe, and I don't remember exactly all of that episode, but if there was something a little bit more specific being talked about, you know, a lot of times we're not just going to name drop or, you know, try to call anybody out or cause any discord or division or even gossip to that point, you know, we'll... Randy: Right. Right. Pj: We could speak about something in general without necessarily giving you all the dirt. This is not... We're here to share our walk. We're not, you know, spilling tea. Randy: Yeah, we're not exactly we're not here to necessarily put anybody on blast or say that we don't like anything in particular, you know, a specific artist or a specific song. It's just more something to think about. For me personally, if I hear songs that are played during worship, you know, during the worship portion of a of a service, I expect them to just be more about God, not about the devil, not about me, not about just like celebration. That's it's a preference thing. Pj: Bro, speaking of that, it just made me think about this. and look, you know what? I might be late to the party. This might be an old song, but it's new to me. Man, I just heard this song for the first time like a day or two ago. And, bro, I think that you would like it because I know how you like these type of songs. But it was it was actually played during worship and it was sick. It's called So Be It. Have you heard that? So. Randy: I have to hear the lyrics because I don't really memorize the names most of the time. Pj: So I got you. Well, the name of the song is called So Be It and it's featuring, ⁓ it's from Elevation Worship featuring Tiffany Hudson and Chris Brown. And it's, it's dope, bro. I don't have the lyrics. Like I said, I just heard it, but man, it's... Randy: Okay. Yeah, I think I think I'd have to hear it back. So I think I have a mention in our episode on I think it was the episode of Christian media, like even when like when me and Isabel went to the Brendan Lake and Phil Wickham concert, like I had never even heard those guys names before. And then I got there and I knew and I knew all the songs like I got there and I knew like every song and I was like, ⁓ OK, like it was that. Pj: from elevation worship when they were there too or you're talking about Phil and Brandon? Like whose name? Randy: No, I'm saying, I'm saying me and Isabelle went to the Phil Wickham and Brandon Lake concert. And when she told me she wanted to go, was like, who are these guys? never even heard of them. Pj: ⁓ wow, so you didn't realize that it was them. got it. Wow. Yeah. Randy: I didn't know, I knew all their songs, but I didn't know who these people were. I just don't really pay attention to the names or the albums or the artists. If it's good and I like it and they play it in church, then I remember the song, but yeah. Pj: I got you, I got you. That's wild. What an awesome concert to just happen upon. Of course you're going to know all the songs they sing because they're like the main two artists that they play on pretty much any Christian radio station. Randy: Right. Well, she had told me she's like, was like, well, what are they saying? And she's like, Oh, you know, a lot of the songs that they sing in church, like, you know, they come from these guys or, know, they've written them. I'm like, okay, cool. Then like, and then, you know, let's go. So we went and then, it was a pleasant surprise. I was like, Oh yeah. I was like, I knew like 90 % of the songs that they were singing had no idea who these two people were, but I knew like 90 % of the songs. Pj: Yeah, 100%. Wow. Yeah, yeah, Randy: Yeah. Pj: good. Well, look, I'll send that song to you later, man, so you can check it out and ⁓ check the lyrics. But it's it's it's dope. Randy: All right, let's, yeah, send it to me. Let's go through a few more. So let's see, I'm going to jump up to at BJ Levi 5769 commented, well, I think the words are pent for your savior. Sacrifice should mean something. If you love Jesus, go forth and sin no more. Um, well, you know, we're always going to sin. So that's, think, you know, my stance is yes, we are not going to go out and try to sin intentionally, but in my mind, you know, we talked about this. I think you could only really fully repent from not believing to believing. If you really think that your salvation is based on your ability to repent of sin, then I would say, you know, there's probably not a full understanding of the gospel there. That'd be my take on that. ⁓ at leak, no fun leak now, Nolton, Nolton seven three ⁓ three time itself is his creation. Ask yourself this, did the, did the trees in the garden of Eden have rings? How, if they were only days old. Hmm. Interesting. Did they have rings? Pj: Nolten? No, they didn't. So, well, I've heard apparently they didn't. And that was one of the things that they used to confirm what they what they found in like ⁓ where they think they found Noah's Ark. Did you hear about that? Where they're you know, it was basically like, you know, because you got to think that the rings of a tree is a ring for each year as it grows, it grows, it grows. But God just spoke these trees into existence. So like so they were able to note that from the Randy: Mm-hmm. Sure. Pj: the wood that they found, you know, they they x-rayed like that it didn't it didn't have those properties and stuff like that. So it's pretty crazy. You know what I mean? Randy: So are you saying that Noah used wood from the Garden of Eden to build the ark? Pj: Well, no, so like it wasn't just trees in the Garden of Eden like basically, know, whenever God spoke the world into existence, it just was right. And I mean, there wasn't just trees in the Garden of Eden. You know what mean? There was everything everywhere. Right. But it was it just there just were just just it reminds me of like that old joke. Like you remember, I think whenever we were like teenagers, like, you know, how would you how would you know Adam and Eve in heaven? they wouldn't have belly buttons, you know what mean? Like whatever, you know, like that same kind of concept. But it's like, yeah, I don't know. So there's a bunch of stuff that is like that. you know, it just those things, God spoke them into existence so that they don't look like, you know, what we experience today as like a tree and the process that it has to go through and all that stuff. yeah. Randy: Sure. Yeah, I mean, on the one hand, mean, so just to lead the old friends comments, ⁓ he says, how would they have rings if they were days old? We don't even know if they were days old. I mean, we don't know how long they were in the Garden of Eden for. Yeah, for all we know, yeah, for all we know, we don't really know ⁓ exactly. I mean, I think, you know, I think in the Book of Jubilees, they did have a little bit more detail and, you know, we already established that that's not canon. But if it is to be Pj: They could have been a thousand years old because the day is a thousand years. Randy: believe there's a more specific timeframe in terms of how long they were in there. But I it wasn't days. think it was longer than days. But even still to the point, I think, you know, God could have created a fully developed tree with rings if he wanted to. It's just, you know, nobody really knows. It's all just speculation. Pj: Choo, choo choo choo. Randy: Alright, at Tripp Switch 101, he may bring them together and New Eden. I'm not sure what that was in reference to. Any, any ideas on that one? Pj: I'm not sure but I just to go back that last comment I guess was on our Kingdom of Heaven episode and I believe this one is also so these next these next oh wow I see one here I guess this David Jericho 94 95 must be friends with Tyler he said stop using drugs Randy: Okay. Stop using drugs. That's a good, good piece of advice for anyone using drugs. Pj: wait. Well, maybe. So I don't know what order did these come in. So I'm not sure if the first one was at ten or dad, it says, in my honest opinion, heaven on earth will happen when everyone adopts Matthew 25 and First Chronicles 2913 as daily behaviors. ⁓ Somebody said everything started making much more sense once I stepped out of the Christianity box and took a look around. At all the things the church says, no, you'll go to hell if you look at that. All those nagging internal questions finally got answered. Lifelong Christian here who no longer is one. I've been too many Sunday services where even though I'm a Christian, I'm told I'm probably still not making it to heaven. And I'm sorry, that that's that. R.I. Black 123. And then somebody responded to that at. Randy: Mm. Pj: A T N F N said maybe that's the problem. You listen to what different churches taught instead of the Bible. There are all sorts of heretical churches. ⁓ Somebody responded to that by saying he may bring them together a new Eden. And then David Jericho, 94, ⁓ 95 said, stop using drugs. Not sure who he's talking to, but not doing drugs is good advice. Solid advice. And again, to the other people. ⁓ who did comment here like, man, yeah, I know it's tough. I guess my main focus is we all know that it happens. We all know that the word of God gets used and abused. My biggest takeaway is I pray that people ⁓ understand that misrepresentation of God shouldn't be reflected onto God. You know what mean? He is love and he loves you even if somebody's twisting his words and trying to make it seem to the contrary, he does love you and he is for you. So that would be my response to that. Randy: Yeah. All right. It looks like one of the comments that we mentioned earlier had a response to from at Vincent media, Medina Vincent Medina five, four, three eight says the Bible says there is no sacrifice for a willful sinner. The Bible actually doesn't say that in Hebrews. It says that if you continue to send, there is no more sacrifice for sin. That's not saying there's no sacrifice for a willful sinner. What it's saying is there has been one sacrifice and there aren't going to be any more sacrifices. The sacrificial system has gone away. Pj: And that was actually in response. So we've talked about a hundred times on this podcast, is context is important. That was actually in response to the fact that after what Jesus did, ⁓ people got away from, the Jewish people got away from doing animal sacrifices, right? Because it was no longer necessary. And then they started getting in trouble more with the Romans. Randy: Mm-hmm Pj: Because the Romans had accepted the way that they did things, sacrifice and animals, burn, they accepted that. But they didn't accept this new radical way of them following Jesus and Christianity in this way. And so some of them were like, you know what, we're going to go back to sacrifice and animals again, because we didn't have as many problems with the Romans. And basically, that's whenever this is being said, like, no, no, no, no, no, you can't, there is no more sin. There is no more sacrifice for sin. Randy: Yeah. Yeah, there is no more sacrifice for sins. Yeah. Pj: Jesus has paid it. Contextually, that's what that's referring Randy: Yeah. And I'm sure he's referring to the Hebrews. It has to be that's I mean, if it's not, us know if there's another passage, if if if that is what you're referring to as Hebrews, just know that, you know, the context we're sharing now is relevant. So and you know, like you just said, man, it's like, you know, it's the meaning there is is very situational to the day and time that they were living in, not just making a general statement, you know, because a lot of people misinterpret Hebrews. And they read some of those statements to say, ⁓ my gosh, it's talking to Christians. If I'm a Christian and I continue to sin, I'm going to lose my salvation. And there are churches who teach that. And that's unfortunate because that's not at all what, what that, what that passage is about along the same vein. It looks like we got a message, a comment from Crick hard WC, Crick hardwick sounds like or something. Pj: Or C. Richard. C. Richard WC. Randy: Crick are like, ⁓ my gosh, see Richard. Yeah, Crick, Critchard, Critchard. Yeah, okay. So the Great Commission is for apostles only in the Mark of Gospel, or in the Gospel of Mark, disciples also needed to be equipped with powers which none of us have. The Great Commission ended when the last apostle died, and with that, no one has the authority to do water baptism or baptism of the Holy Spirit, and hence all spiritual gifts are extinct. Now we are under the grace gospel that Jesus revealed to Paul where believers are added to the body of Christ automatically by God himself. The mystery God revealed to Paul come at quite a late stage of Paul's commission as apostle of Gentiles. So I know that this is a cessationalism ⁓ argument that a lot of people have taken that essentially the gifts of the Holy Spirit have ended. ⁓ with the ministry of the apostles. I know that that's something that a lot of people ⁓ believe. You and I haven't really got into that conversation. However, I would say that the second half of the comment here, we are under the grace gospel. I definitely believe that the gospel is all about grace and that we don't emphasize the grace message enough. And that's something that the church I think could do a better job of is emphasizing that it's grace that saves us, it's grace that sustains us. At no point do we add anything to the sacrifice of Jesus. Thoughts there, brother? Pj: Yeah, no, just, I mean, I personally, I would disagree with ⁓ that no one has the authority to do water baptism or baptism of the Holy Spirit. Since all spiritual gifts are extinct, I don't necessarily hold that position. yeah, ⁓ hey, mean, that's one of those things. And I think that that kind of thinking is how you get such a... Randy: Yeah. Pj: a radical response from the other side where they make it such a focal point because some people are like, oh, that doesn't happen anymore. That's extinct. I don't know. But hey, you know, that's between you and the good Lord, man. Randy: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. And, uh, you know, I know that there's lots of people, especially in other parts of the world, outside of the United States, who would definitely disagree with the gifts of the spirit being, you know, uh, not, not applying today. Cause I mean, there are, I haven't personally seen it, but I've heard tons of stories from missionaries and other folks who have said that, yes, they've seen people healed. They've seen people raised from the dead. They've seen the miraculous interpretation of tongues. It's happened to them. So, I mean, I could only go off of the testimony that has been shared to me. I don't have any stories that I could share firsthand, but I just know that there would be people who strongly disagree with that based on their firsthand experience. ⁓ I'm not one of them, so I can't really comment. All right, where are we at? Pj: I guess the next one in this line looks like this is in the same, I'm guessing the Kingdom of Heaven episode. Again, I don't know which one of these came first. ⁓ It says, let's see, 500 BC, heaven wasn't a thing yet. It was paradise and it had a void that separated it from hell. When Jesus said, I go to prepare a place for you. ⁓ He wasn't kidding lol and Somebody said not a reward just home Andrew Brooks 2001 said not a reward just home and The other comment was from truck stop cowboy truck stop coal 5639 Randy: Hey, while you're out there trucking, we got 20 episodes to listen to. Make sure you hit them all. Truck stop cowboy. Thanks for, thanks for the engagement. Pj: That's right. Thanks for the comments for sure. ⁓ Randy: Alright, let's see, I'm kind of lost. So if you got the next one, go ahead. I'm kind of, I kind of just been scrolling through. We got more than we're going to be able to get to in this episode. That's for sure. Pj: So Yeah, so this looks like ⁓ somebody was responding to heaven part two and they said this is ⁓ Tom Austin 7332 said Jesus was a Greek name. The Romans changed his name to distance it from the Jews ⁓ at Hannah. B R 8756 says names are different in different ⁓ languages. That's not new. and at nicky v 38 19 says saying the name of jesus isn't a magic spell it has power because of the person you are invoking this is very low iq stuff okay well Randy: Well, I didn't know we took any IQ tests, but now we know where we stand on the IQ test. Very low IQ. All right. And I think it was me who said that it's, well, I don't know if I said magic spell, but I said, I don't believe in the whole Christian voodoo thing. And we didn't really get into that too much. was a very short piece of our conversation, but of course this was a short that they were replying to. Pj: Not, not doing good. Not doing good. Randy: All cool. Let's see here. What else we got? ⁓ At Nigrood. Or is that, yeah, NIGRUD9522. It's freedom, it's learning, it's adventure, but most importantly, it's pure love. That was in response to is heaven actually boring, which was the name of the short. And then at 336 Mexico says, heaven sounds boring to those who reject God. Yeah, I mean, I could see how heaven might be boring to people who are, you know, dead set on following their own will and, you know, doing what they want to do versus, you know, serving others and, you know, living according to God's will. Pj: Yeah. ⁓ so look, here we go, I want to say I don't remember what episode it was where I finally... I finally went into the whole, hello Lucifer, morning star thing. So, ⁓ so this says ⁓ at Scott, ⁓ hyphen PW seven WC says, isn't looser also referred to as the morning star? And then at a Ms dash WN six R H says, hello Jesus and the serpent all told the truth. This is ⁓ Randy: Mm-hmm. Pj: This is what they are all reference to the light to as I guess it meant as supposed to be as the light bringers. Yahweh the God of the Bible in the Old Testament, a testament was the evil one. Read the Bible and you will see who the real devil, who the real who the real devil. Jesus never asked for sacrifice. Yahweh demands sacrifices in blood because he's the devil. Jesus. Randy: Wow. Pj: Jesus says to the people that worship Yahweh, you don't know me or my father. So see, like, again, I think I touched on this, man, like how people get these distorted views of the roles of who's who, man, you know, off the simplest little miscues, man, it's dangerous. Just a little bit of information can go a long way. Randy: Yeah, well, well, well, there, mean, there is this whole like, you know, a cult viewpoint that basically, you know, this MSW in six are whatever, whoever this person is, is basically voicing, which basically says that, you know, Yahweh is the bad guy of the story and Lucifer, you know, the devil Satan, whatever his real name is, is the good guy. And that's something that Christians should be aware of that there is actually that perspective out there that exists. I mean, there are plenty of arguments that theologians could, you know, use to dismantle this argument very easily. But the one that I always like to go with is, know, if, if, know, your, if your, you know, and I'm, I'm assuming this is a man who wrote this, I don't know, but I would say if your wife was murdered and the judge just let the murderer off the hook. What would you say about that judge? You would say he's a bad judge, right? But because the sin has to be paid for. It has to be paid for. So yes, Yahweh is a God of justice and he demands justice for the sins of this world. Now the good news is he also ⁓ paid that price for that justice himself because he knew none of us could ever do it. So to say that he's the bad guy because he... Pj: That's right. Randy: demands a sacrifice and demands blood. No, the Bible says that the life of the animal, the life of the being is in their blood. So, you know, in order for the sacrifice to be meaningful, there had to be blood spilled and it couldn't just be anyone's blood. I mean, you know, we could get into a long conversation just on this, but you know, this is an argument that's out there that exists and it just, it's a twisting of scripture. Pj: I would just say to the point of ⁓ where you say Jesus never asked for sacrifice, ⁓ I would say, well, he did. He told us to pick up our cross, you know what I mean? And basically, you know, die to our old selves. So those are sacrifice things, know, ⁓ crucified to flesh. But I think as far as if you're talking about, has he asked for blood? No, because he gave his. So, I mean, and he willingly gave it. Randy: Yeah. Pj: for Yahweh, his father. But yeah, thank you for the engagement and I'll be praying for some maybe some healing and that God will reveal himself to you ⁓ in a deeper way so that you could experience his love and see that he's not the bad guy. yeah, good deal. Randy: Alright so know we still got a lot more comments on the shorts man but I think we're pretty much at our time. What do you think? Pj: Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty good, man. know, we've kind of, know, ⁓ everybody who's left comments, we do appreciate you. We wish we could read them all. And and look, you know, ⁓ you know, if we have mentioned your comment and, you know, we didn't necessarily agree not coming at you. I mean, this this is part of the conversation, man. We can we can talk about it and ⁓ agree to disagree or respectfully disagree, ⁓ you know, and and that's part of. part of what this is about. we either way, we do appreciate the engagement. We appreciate, you know, listening. We appreciate your time and, you know, your thoughts. Yeah. Randy: Yeah, totally agree. Appreciate everyone's engagement. A lot of engagement on the shorts. We'd like to see more comments on the full episodes, but in general, just, you know, thank you for taking the time to actually let us know what you're thinking out there. Cause this is this helpful feedback for us as we, you know, hit a major milestone in this show hitting the 20th episode. And we are continuing forward. You know, this will help us to get better for the next 20 and also just to let us know that, people are actually listening good or bad. You got some thoughts, you have some takeaways and we appreciate you letting us know. Pj: Yep, and to all of you out there who have been with us since episode one, thank y'all. We really appreciate it. It's such a blessing. ⁓ If you're new and you've only caught a couple of them, obviously, like we've said here, we've got 20 out there for you to check out. And big shout out, because I do know at least a few people who ⁓ have legitimately watched every episode. And not just me, but... But other people and man, I just love you all for that. Appreciate that a lot means means a lot. Randy: We might have to see if some of those folks want to be on with us and ⁓ engage a little bit more. Maybe we can include them as a guest and get their thoughts. That'd be, that'd be nice to, to add occasionally. I don't know. What do think? Pj: Yeah, yeah, I can I can reach out and see if that's something that they'd be they'd be open to so every good stuff Randy: You never know. You never know what to expect here on the walk talk faith in motion podcast. But with that, I think that just about does it for this episode. So thank you guys so much for following the show. And before you go, please let us know what you think in the comments below. God bless. Pj: God bless.