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My Favorite Conspiracy: CE5 (w/Connor McSpadden) · Conspiracy! The Show

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Conspiracy The Show, the world's most trusted conspiracy
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Speaker 1: dary podcast, with your hosts Adam Todd Brown and Olivia Hidar.
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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy The Show. I'm your host,
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Speaker 2: Adam Todd Brown joining me is co host. This week,
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Speaker 2: Connor is here.
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Speaker 3: Yay, what's up y'all? Putting the con in conspiracy?
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Speaker 2: God damn, right.
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Speaker 3: Back in the trap. It's good to see you, buddy.
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Speaker 2: Good to see you, man. How's it going.
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Speaker 3: It's going good. I'm excited to talk about my favorite
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Speaker 3: conspiracy today and in I think just communicating with you
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Speaker 3: about doing this episode that I had to excite, realized
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Speaker 3: and accepted that it is my favorite conspiracy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a good one. I have conflicting feelings
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Speaker 2: on Stephen Greer. Is that what we're calling this conspiracy?
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Speaker 2: Stephen Greer?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, just Stephen Greer, just Stephen Grier's whole uvra.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, he's an interesting guy. We've covered a
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Speaker 2: few of his documentaries.
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Speaker 3: As guys did Countdown to Disclosure, right, we did our timeline.
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Speaker 2: To covered Unacknowledged at one point I think me and
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Speaker 2: you covered.
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Speaker 3: I think we did because that's the twenty seventeen. One
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Speaker 3: not Acknowledged is pretty good. That's that one is mostly just,
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Speaker 3: if I recall correctly, basically just a big laundry list
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Speaker 3: of Credibler sightings, and when you look at it in
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Speaker 3: the big two hour chunk, you're kind of like, oh shit,
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Speaker 3: I mean, one of these guys has got to be
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Speaker 3: telling the truth.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I especially like these episodes because I don't have
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Speaker 2: to do much. Because this is a my favorite Conspiracy
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Speaker 2: episode where Connor is going to kind of run us
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Speaker 2: through why you not? I don't know. I don't want
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Speaker 2: to put it on you that you like, absolutely believe
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Speaker 2: everything about Steven Greer, but just tell us why it's
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Speaker 2: it's your faves.
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Speaker 3: It's gonna be challenging. I'm used to being the color
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Speaker 3: commentary guy on Conspiracy, the show where Adam spends five
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Speaker 3: minutes a complicated breakdown of geopolitical forces and entities, and
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Speaker 3: then I go, yeah, like a dog's asshole.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm gonna be the dog's asshole guy this week.
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Speaker 3: And I'm you deserve a break today, Adam. I think
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Speaker 3: you do.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
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Speaker 3: Today we're going to focus on one of his earlier
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Speaker 3: documentaries because I think it's the strangest one and has
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Speaker 3: the most shit in it that's not in all the
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Speaker 3: other ones, because, as we talked about a little bit
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Speaker 3: before we started making this episode, Stephen Greer really knows
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Speaker 3: how to make the same movie five times.
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Speaker 2: He sure does, he makes the same movie five times.
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Speaker 2: But almost every time I watch one of his movies,
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Speaker 2: I'm like, this should have maybe been two or three movies,
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Speaker 2: because yeah, he really covers a lot of ground and
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Speaker 2: does life jumping around.
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Speaker 3: I've kind of combined stuff from four of his docks,
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Speaker 3: a little bit from the serious doc, a little bit
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Speaker 3: from unacknowledged that I remember mostly close Encounters of the
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Speaker 3: fifth kind, and then his new one, The Last Century,
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Speaker 3: which is kind of just a run through of I believe.
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Speaker 3: We did an episode about like free energy devices and
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Speaker 3: guys like stan Meyer and the Earth Battery and shit
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Speaker 3: like that. But the whole Stephen Gerst story really starts, well,
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Speaker 3: it really starts when he has this cosmic consciousness experience,
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Speaker 3: but in terms of the public eye and his kind
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Speaker 3: of like notable works, it starts in two thousand and
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Speaker 3: one when he led the Disclosure Project. This was a
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Speaker 3: group of whistleblowers that testified before Congress and leaked a
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Speaker 3: bunch of you know, crazy inflammatory alien information, and right
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Speaker 3: after nine to eleven happened, and similar to Paula Poundstone
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Speaker 3: driving around drunk with those kids in her car, we
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Speaker 3: all just kind of forgot about it because nine to
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Speaker 3: eleven nine very I mean, yeah, yeah, no, no, yes,
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Speaker 3: we all forgot about nine to eleven. That's like ten
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Speaker 3: years away, I think, but it is coming when we
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Speaker 3: all forget about nine to eleven.
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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Now, in the documentaries, Greer claims after he drops Unacknowledged,
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Speaker 3: he says, well, of course, after I dropped on acknowledged,
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Speaker 3: the CIA declassified hundreds of UFO docs. Whether those two
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Speaker 3: are related, I couldn't really tell you, but it is
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Speaker 3: another one of those coincidences. And he says his thesis
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Speaker 3: there is a counter narrative being formed to subvert the
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Speaker 3: truth that includes the infamous Air Force glowing black saucer
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Speaker 3: footage released by the military. We've all seen, yes, and
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Speaker 3: I want to get into here what to me is
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Speaker 3: like the bedrock of this conspiracy and this I think
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Speaker 3: he goes into an unacknowledged and this is one of
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Speaker 3: the people that he had with him at the Disclosure
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Speaker 3: Project in Washington in two thousand and one. It's a
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Speaker 3: woman named doctor Carol Rosen who went on to found,
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Speaker 3: not found, but run Fairchild Industry is an aerospace company,
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Speaker 3: and she was the assistant of doctor Verna vanbra Oh
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Speaker 3: No for a guy named Brown, he is very, very white.
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Speaker 3: Is a Nazi, which is the whitest you can possibly be.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Now there's a great photo of Van Brown watching the
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Speaker 3: Apollo rockets take off and you can see this really
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Speaker 3: fucked up scar on his face. And I learned about
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Speaker 3: this from the Truanan podcast. Apparently back in the you know,
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Speaker 3: German boarding school days, if someone cut your face fencing,
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Speaker 3: they would stuff the wound with horse hair so it
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Speaker 3: would heal all fucked up and you'd have a big, scary,
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Speaker 3: evil James Bond villain scar really just for the purpose
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Speaker 3: of looking evil. And you can see on his face
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Speaker 3: his Nazi fencing scar as he's standing next to like
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Speaker 3: fucking the president and all this all the top ranking officials.
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Speaker 2: So to be honest, that might be the only Nazi
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Speaker 2: policy I agree with. That sounds radish.
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Speaker 3: Shit, it is cool, you get like like the uniforms.
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Speaker 3: If we just divorce it from every single other thing.
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Speaker 3: They got the aesthetics nailed. Yeah, there's a reason every
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Speaker 3: bad guy in every movie rips them off. Right now,
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Speaker 3: Wrenavan Brown, he escapes Germany, and by escapes, I mean
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Speaker 3: he's literally flown out by America. Operation paper Clip. We
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Speaker 3: want to get all the good scientists. He was a
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Speaker 3: guy who came up with the V two rocket, which,
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Speaker 3: again divorce of what it was used for is fucking amazing.
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Speaker 3: Before computers, before anything, a rocket that can go from
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Speaker 3: Germany to Winston Churchill's front front yard accurately is a
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Speaker 3: fucking amazing invention. Yeah, in nineteen forty five, it's absolutely
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Speaker 3: like I went to the China Lake Military Base and
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Speaker 3: I watched this whole documentary with my pops about how
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Speaker 3: the sidewinder whistle missile works. And there's a barometer and
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Speaker 3: a mirror and it's all analog. But it's a heat
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Speaker 3: seeking missile, you know, And it's just one of these
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Speaker 3: crazy analog inventions. He's a brilliant guy, works for NASA,
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Speaker 3: and he in the later years of his life, he's
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Speaker 3: dying of cancer. And when Carol Rossin meets him in
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Speaker 3: nineteen seventy four, and I actually pulled this whole quote
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Speaker 3: just because I think it's interesting and I wanted to
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Speaker 3: get it straight from the horse's mouth. She says, what
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Speaker 3: was most interesting to me was a repetitive sentence that
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Speaker 3: he would say to me over and over again during
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Speaker 3: the approximately four years that I had the opportunity to
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Speaker 3: work with him. He said, the strategy that was being
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Speaker 3: used to educate the publican decision makers was to use
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Speaker 3: scare tactics. That was how we identified enemy. The strategy
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Speaker 3: that weren't. Van Bront taught me was that first the
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Speaker 3: Russians are going to be considered the enemy. In fact,
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Speaker 3: to nineteen seventy four, they were the enemy. He identified enemy.
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Speaker 3: We were told they had killers, satellites, we were told
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Speaker 3: that they were coming to get us in control, that
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Speaker 3: we had commies. Then terrorists would be identified, and that
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Speaker 3: was soon the follow We know for a fact that
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Speaker 3: this happened now and we heard a lot about terrorism.
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Speaker 3: Even this writing is in the year two thousand, which
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Speaker 3: is pre dates nine to eleven, so she's calling this
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Speaker 3: before nine to eleven. I mean, you could say she's
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Speaker 3: calling it off of the ninety three Terrorist Center attacks
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Speaker 3: or the USS Arizona, but they are obviously the scapegoat
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Speaker 3: that we went to after the fucking fall of Soviet Russia.
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Speaker 3: Then he said we were going to identify the third
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Speaker 3: world crazy countries. We now call them Nations of concern.
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Speaker 3: But he said that would be the third enemy against
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Speaker 3: whom we would build space based weapons. The next enemy
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Speaker 3: was asteroids. I imagine we'll be hearing about that in
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Speaker 3: a couple months. Sure, And now at this point he
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Speaker 3: kind of chuckled the first time he said it asteroids
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Speaker 3: against asteroids, We're going to build space based weapons. And
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Speaker 3: the funniest one of all was what he called aliens extraterrestrials.
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Speaker 3: That would be the final scare. And over and over
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Speaker 3: again the four years that I knew him and was
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Speaker 3: giving speeches for him, he would bring up that last
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Speaker 3: card quote. And remember, Carrol, the last card is the
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Speaker 3: alien card. We're going to have to build space based
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Speaker 3: weapons against aliens, and all of it is a lie.
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Speaker 3: She goes on to say, wonder Van Brown actually told
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Speaker 3: me that the spin was a lie. That the premise
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Speaker 3: for space based for weaponary, the reasons that we were
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Speaker 3: going to give and the enemies that were going to
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Speaker 3: be persecuted all based on a lie. So he's basically
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Speaker 3: laying out sort of a deep state strategy for constant
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Speaker 3: global war starting in nineteen seventy four that is so
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Speaker 3: far played out completely accurately, right, And I've.
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Speaker 2: That is a thing that when the CIA did release
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Speaker 2: all those UFO files, at least the ones they had
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Speaker 2: to release as part of like Trump's last COVID bill
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Speaker 2: or whatever the hell that was, that was almost an
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Speaker 2: immediate concern among people who were following UFOs, Like after
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Speaker 2: Roswell happened. Was first it was kind of the CIA
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Speaker 2: being like, hey, is this like our enemies trying to
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Speaker 2: trick us in to doing stuff? And then almost immediately
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Speaker 2: thereafter they were like, oh wait, can we do that?
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Speaker 2: Like can we use this?
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Speaker 3: Can we be the bad guys?
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Speaker 2: Stuff? And that like people were concerned about that almost
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Speaker 2: right away was the CIA was like perpetuating this.
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Speaker 3: I actually think that the most compelling corroboration to all
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Speaker 3: this Stephen Gris stuff is stuff from our favorite website,
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Speaker 3: the CIA, DoD vault dot CoV sure, FBI dot vault
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Speaker 3: dot CoV And we'll get at some of that later,
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Speaker 3: but it was interesting to bring that up it does
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Speaker 3: kind of dovetail.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, for sure. The documentary I watched today was
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Speaker 2: Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind. Yes, and that's a
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Speaker 2: big chunk of it. Is the idea that the US
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Speaker 2: government is pushing this idea that aliens are coming in
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Speaker 2: their hostile as a means of kind of putting a
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Speaker 2: one world government in place.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's getting these black budget projects funded, you know,
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Speaker 3: as a means of saying, don't fucking look at what Lockheeds,
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Speaker 3: skunk Works and Boeing or doing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is that has to be one of
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Speaker 2: the most enduring conspiracy theories in history, like the New
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Speaker 2: like that's basically the new World Order.
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Speaker 3: It's also quite strange that it really kicks into high
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Speaker 3: gear after nuclear proliferations begins, like that's when sightings really
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Speaker 3: start to explode. And I actually heard the point made
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Speaker 3: on another podcast recently that you could attribute this whole
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Speaker 3: UFO phenomenon in America to the death of mysticism and
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Speaker 3: it's sort of taking the place of like fairies in
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Speaker 3: Ireland or Shintoism in Japan are just spirits in general,
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Speaker 3: you know, like the idea of I don't know, woo
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Speaker 3: woo stuff which I think is an interesting point. But
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Speaker 3: when you just have all these pictures and all these
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Speaker 3: people and all these witnesses and their lives are ruined
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Speaker 3: by coming forward, you have to kind of think some
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Speaker 3: of them are, at least sincerely think they saw it.
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Speaker 3: Like I do think there's something to be said for
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Speaker 3: the preponderance of all of this shit.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's a thing I bring up with people
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Speaker 2: who are like super duper skeptical, like I don't know,
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Speaker 2: like I don't know, we don't know for sure, but
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Speaker 2: oh could we? Yeah. But when like one of the
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Speaker 2: main pushbacks you get is well I'll believe it when
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Speaker 2: I see evidence of it, and it's like you have,
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Speaker 2: you just don't.
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Speaker 3: You just said that's not evidence, which is not totally
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Speaker 3: a point, right.
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Speaker 2: And now it's like the government is putting these videos
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Speaker 2: out and they're like, look, it's something for sure.
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Speaker 3: And I think that the government has firewalls and it's
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Speaker 3: even and it's like the Air Force. I think that
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Speaker 3: what the Air Force knows is not what black budget
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Speaker 3: contractors know, you know. I think they want us to
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Speaker 3: think that all that they know is what the Air
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Speaker 3: Force knows, which is kind of jackshit, Like they know,
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Speaker 3: like we've seen this shit. It's moving in ways we
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Speaker 3: can't understand. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to imagine those pilots in those videos.
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Speaker 2: It's not like once they saw that, all the secrets
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Speaker 2: the government knows about UFOs and aliens just opened up.
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Speaker 3: Yeah with them, although you did, you'd be amazed at
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Speaker 3: this that's on FBI, dot vault, dot gov. I mean,
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Speaker 3: it's it's pretty damaging. Another and while we're talking about
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Speaker 3: the military industrial complex, another thing that I just I
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Speaker 3: put in the beginning as a sort of a tent
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Speaker 3: pole of this conspiracy, something we know about very well.
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Speaker 3: But just to reiterate Eisenhower's farewell address where he warns
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Speaker 3: about this shit and the councils of government, we must
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Speaker 3: guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought,
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Speaker 3: by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous
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Speaker 3: rise of misplace least power exists and will persist. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: President of the United States nineteen fifty eight, I think.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's yeah, right around the time when like
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Speaker 2: Kennedy seemed to have those same concerns.
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, secret societies within the government. That was one
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Speaker 3: of his last speeches.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he gets assassinated, and like the government
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Speaker 2: assassinations in the sixties, I think.
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Speaker 3: Our Kennedy Kennedy ex King.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the entire progressive movement in this country
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Speaker 2: got assassinated, like all in relatively short time.
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Speaker 3: I'd like to short the great Ian Edwards who said,
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Speaker 3: here's how I know Jesse Jackson is not a great
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Speaker 3: racial leader because the guy that shot Malcolm Martin Luther
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Speaker 3: King had a clear shot at Jesse Jackson and said, no,
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Speaker 3: he's more damaging alive than that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I don't know. Stuff like that is so
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Speaker 2: important for people who are skeptical of stuff like this
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Speaker 2: to take into the team, Like our government does some shit.
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Speaker 3: Look at the Gulf of Tonkidens all this shit. You
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Speaker 3: know that the stuff that we know to be true
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Speaker 3: is so crazy that you must then accept the possibility
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Speaker 3: of other crazy possibilities.
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Speaker 2: Mk ultra also mk ultra remote viewing.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we're getting to get into remote viewing a
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Speaker 3: little bit here. But all of this shit they call
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Speaker 3: it WSFM within the CIA, which sends for Weird Science
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Speaker 3: and fucking Magic. Yeah, all of this woo woo stuff, And.
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Speaker 2: It's the kind of thing where people who want to
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Speaker 2: dismiss this kind of stuff like right off the bat.
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Speaker 2: A lot of times you'll hear like, well, if the
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Speaker 2: government was able to do anything with MK Ultra, we
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Speaker 2: would know. It's like, no, we wouldn't.
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Speaker 3: What makes you think that, let's give away our edge.
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Speaker 3: That's what the government loves, giving away a competitive edge.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's absolutely no way.
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Speaker 3: That's why they cut your taxes every year and we
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Speaker 3: get freer all the time.
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Speaker 2: And like, I wonder that about like the stealth bomber,
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Speaker 2: like the Arizona Lights INCIDENTA there are aspects of that
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Speaker 2: sound so much like the stealth bomber. And then the
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Speaker 2: stealth bomber like was made public two months later.
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Speaker 3: And like, look at the SR seventy one Blackbird. You
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Speaker 3: ever seen the SR seventy one Blackbird?
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Speaker 2: No, I have not. I've heard of it, but I
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Speaker 2: have not seen it.
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Speaker 3: Google it when you get a second. It looks like
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Speaker 3: something out of fucking Star Wars. It was designed in
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Speaker 3: like the late forties, early fifties, and it was in
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Speaker 3: operation until like the mid nineties. It's an incredible piece
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Speaker 3: of engineering that pops up right as soon as this
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Speaker 3: roswell shit, you know, the sighting shit, this nuclear proliferation shit,
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Speaker 3: and it's just fucking science fiction looking. And that's like,
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Speaker 3: again something that we know about. I've sat in one. Actually,
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Speaker 3: there's one in a March Air Force base in Riverside.
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Speaker 3: It's pretty cool. I also, oh, okay, let's doctor Greer
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Speaker 3: claims that this whole alien are a threat narrative is
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Speaker 3: a lie, right, This is being used to drum up
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Speaker 3: fucking all kinds of things. It's been worked on since
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Speaker 3: the fifties. But he thinks the military is sincere in
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Speaker 3: believing in a threat. It's one of these things where
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Speaker 3: when all you have is a hammer, all your problems
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Speaker 3: look like nails. When a pickpocket meets a saints, all
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Speaker 3: these es as pockets. And I kind of buy that.
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Speaker 3: I kind of buy that. Even if government, even if aliens,
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Speaker 3: as Greer claims, as we're getting out of ourselves a
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Speaker 3: little bit, are all about peace and love and harmony,
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Speaker 3: I do not think that the crew cuts in the
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Speaker 3: fucking Joint chiefs of Staff would really see it that way.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, not just that, but also they could both be
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Speaker 2: right like.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then there could be aliens that want to
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Speaker 3: fucking kill us too.
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Speaker 2: Like the tactics Stephen Greer uses to communicate with aliens,
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Speaker 2: is you know, it's a very it's kind of a
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Speaker 2: niche thing. What if it only attracts a niche type
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Speaker 2: of peace, love and alien And then meanwhile there's all
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Speaker 2: sorts of other aliens who are also hearing Stephen Greer's calls,
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Speaker 2: and they're like, fuck you, hippie.
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Speaker 3: If there wasn't this.
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Speaker 2: Down there when you got something we need.
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Speaker 3: If there wasn't this galactric treaty in place, I would
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Speaker 3: fucking strip mine the gold from your feet so goddamn fast.
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Speaker 3: As someone who is as someone who's gone way too
17:03
Speaker 3: deep on this, on something called the Gaia Channel, which
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Speaker 3: is the official Amazon channel of being insane, I recommend it.
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Speaker 3: There's alien disclosure people, some of them are in the
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Speaker 3: Greer documentaries that'll say like, the biological mammals are all
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Speaker 3: pretty chill, but the insects are the ones you gotta
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Speaker 3: worry for. They're the ones that'll fucking exterminate your planet.
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Speaker 3: And I'm kind of like, oh yeah, that kind of
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Speaker 3: that weirdly makes sense, kind of for intuitive sense, I
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Speaker 3: guess at least.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it would stand a reason that if
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Speaker 2: there are all these other life forms out there, They're
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Speaker 2: not all going to be the peace, love and kind.
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Speaker 2: I do also think some Trump aliens, you know.
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Speaker 3: There's gonna be some Trump aliens. I think that, you know,
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Speaker 3: fascism could work. There could be a fascist alien society.
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Speaker 3: But I do think I agree largely with the idea
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Speaker 3: that just looking at our own society, how tough it
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Speaker 3: would be to get to a point of hyper advanced
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Speaker 3: technology without blowing yourselves up if you didn't learn how
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Speaker 3: to chill. Somewhat, Yeah, that's true. Like that is an
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Speaker 3: interesting sort of Fermi paradox or fucking like an Overton
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Speaker 3: window kind of an argument that I find somewhat compelling, And.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that.
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Speaker 3: Guru says, this whole alien threat from the military, basically
18:13
Speaker 3: what they see this is, you know, never let a
18:16
Speaker 3: good crisis go to waste. Romy Manuel and many people
18:18
Speaker 3: before him said that or believe that that this is
18:20
Speaker 3: in the service of establishing a planetary government. Nothing would
18:23
Speaker 3: facilitate the creation of such a government like an outside presence.
18:26
Speaker 3: And not only that, Ronald Reagan gave a speech about
18:29
Speaker 3: this at the un Now Greer chalks up him letting
18:32
Speaker 3: this idea slip as Reagan's optimism or his naivete Alzheimer's.
18:38
Speaker 3: It's kind of a nice way to say. Alzheimer's right,
18:41
Speaker 3: but he said, perhaps we need some outside universal threat
18:44
Speaker 3: to make us recognize this common bond. I occasionally think
18:47
Speaker 3: how quickly our worldwide differences would vanish if we were
18:50
Speaker 3: facing an alien threat from an outside world. And yet,
18:52
Speaker 3: I ask you, is not an alien force already among us?
18:55
Speaker 3: What could be more alien to the universal aspirations of
18:57
Speaker 3: our people than a war? And the threat of war
19:00
Speaker 3: kind of a hippie thing for Ronald Reagan to say.
19:02
Speaker 2: It, sure is. I also don't know if I agree, Like,
19:07
Speaker 2: I don't know that at this point. I don't either
19:10
Speaker 2: an alien threat would be enough. It's already not like.
19:13
Speaker 3: I think that it would immediately be politicized, and.
19:16
Speaker 2: It seems like it already has been.
19:18
Speaker 3: It would be another Pete Davidson for us to argue about.
19:21
Speaker 2: Because there's already this rift between like Steven Greer and
19:27
Speaker 2: is it Luis Elizondo.
19:29
Speaker 3: Oh, I think I know you're talking about I'm not sure, But.
19:32
Speaker 2: He comes up in this documentary as one of the
19:36
Speaker 2: people who's pushing the idea that these alien crafts are
19:41
Speaker 2: possibly a threat. And I know those two have like
19:44
Speaker 2: a little bit of a rift and they kind of
19:47
Speaker 2: disagree on what this threat is about. So it's already happening,
19:50
Speaker 2: like it's already so.
19:52
Speaker 3: It's already being politicized. These are already part of it.
19:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's already an aisle that has formed in this issue.
19:58
Speaker 3: Not to be fair to Greer, I don't think he
20:00
Speaker 3: puts this Ronald Reagan quote because he agrees with him.
20:03
Speaker 3: I think he puts it in just because it's interesting
20:05
Speaker 3: world world leader talking about this, and in fact he
20:07
Speaker 3: didn't even put it in. I put it in.
20:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a weird thing for Reagan to say.
20:12
Speaker 3: He also said, and this is sampled in an excellent
20:15
Speaker 3: Jay Electronic the song Real Magic. Just on the notion
20:18
Speaker 3: of Ronald Reagan being a woo woo crystal guy, he said.
20:20
Speaker 3: Winston Churchill said the destiny of man is not measured
20:23
Speaker 3: by material computations. When great forces are on the move
20:26
Speaker 3: in the world, we learn we're spirits, not animals. And
20:29
Speaker 3: he said there's something going on in time and space
20:31
Speaker 3: and beyond time and space, which, whether we like it
20:33
Speaker 3: or not, spells duty. So Ronald Reagan was kind of
20:36
Speaker 3: into some fucking hippie shit or his brain was melting
20:40
Speaker 3: in kind of a crystal boy direction.
20:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, that a lot of that had to do with
20:45
Speaker 2: Nancy Reagan. She introduced a lot.
20:47
Speaker 3: Of chances in the White House, right.
20:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, all those weird like mystic advisors.
20:52
Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta do something when you can't get
20:54
Speaker 3: piped on the weekends anymore. Griers says major media is
20:58
Speaker 3: cooperating with the intelligence community the subliminal thread narrative. We
21:01
Speaker 3: know that this happens in all sorts of arenas, right.
21:04
Speaker 3: We know that the CIA has contacts in every newspaper
21:06
Speaker 3: and fucking TV channel and every media outlet worth its
21:10
Speaker 3: salt that is corruptible, which is most of them.
21:13
Speaker 2: That's a documented thing. Also, when talking about things operation,
21:18
Speaker 2: we model the government's done YEP product Project mocking Bird.
21:22
Speaker 3: Project Mockingbird. I think I remember we did an episode
21:24
Speaker 3: about that way back in the day. Now he brings
21:26
Speaker 3: in the guy here, Richard Dodie from the Air Force
21:29
Speaker 3: Office of Special Investigations, admitted to bringing bags of cash
21:33
Speaker 3: to national security editors to get their cooperation. Literal, just
21:36
Speaker 3: bags of cash to hey, let us know what's going on,
21:40
Speaker 3: tell us what you're publishing.
21:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, and access is such a thing too, Like a
21:45
Speaker 2: lot of these outlets are afraid if they question the government,
21:49
Speaker 2: they will lose the access they have to the government.
21:52
Speaker 2: And it's like, how do you not see how big
21:55
Speaker 2: of a conflict of interest that is.
21:57
Speaker 3: It's it's a gigantic conflict of interest, and it's why,
22:02
Speaker 3: like even England has a freer press than we do
22:04
Speaker 3: on some level, as barbaric as it is with the tabloids.
22:09
Speaker 3: At this point, the doc ger goes into what we
22:11
Speaker 3: were just talking about, the nuclear site employees who have
22:14
Speaker 3: had equipment shut down by UFO crafts. There's a lot
22:17
Speaker 3: of these cases. He didn't get through all of them specifically.
22:20
Speaker 3: I think we might have talked about some of them before,
22:22
Speaker 3: but many of these men claim they felt a presence,
22:24
Speaker 3: like a spiritual presence, urging them to not blow up
22:27
Speaker 3: the beautiful planet we live on. This is something we
22:29
Speaker 3: also hear with like the sighting in Brazil at the school.
22:32
Speaker 3: All these children were like, oh okay, the aliens were
22:35
Speaker 3: sort of telepathically telling them, like stop fucking polluting and
22:38
Speaker 3: making pop tarts and shit, you animals Yeah, that's.
22:41
Speaker 2: A weird one because that's a whole school full of.
22:44
Speaker 3: Children who forty years later, I'll say the same thing again.
22:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you have to assume every one of those
22:50
Speaker 2: kids is just a straight up liar, and what they
22:53
Speaker 2: put together, they choreographed this huge lie.
22:57
Speaker 3: It's that it's called game show or something. That documentary
23:00
Speaker 3: about this conspiracy that was like coup under wraps out
23:05
Speaker 3: a game show from the seventies, and it's sort of
23:07
Speaker 3: a proof of concept that a large group of people
23:09
Speaker 3: can be manipulated and at all lying and doing something
23:12
Speaker 3: like this. I think that's true. But like every time,
23:16
Speaker 3: every case, all of them.
23:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, it can't be all of them. There's no way.
23:20
Speaker 3: When you look at the sheer preponderance of it, it's
23:22
Speaker 3: just like it's kind of overwhelming. Now, this is a
23:25
Speaker 3: guy who just watched who just mainlined the five Greer documentaries, So.
23:30
Speaker 2: Excuse me exactly.
23:32
Speaker 3: Now. He takes a moment here to diss Tom DeLong
23:35
Speaker 3: through a little shade Tom's way. He says that to
23:37
Speaker 3: the Stars Academy, you may be familiar with their mainstream
23:40
Speaker 3: media push is part of the effort to spin the
23:43
Speaker 3: story towards the military's UFOs or a threat narrative. And
23:47
Speaker 3: I've watched a lot of the Tomb the Long stuff,
23:49
Speaker 3: and I think that's pretty close. It's he does sound
23:53
Speaker 3: like he's kind of caping for the government. He gets
23:55
Speaker 3: a lot of his info from them. They decide what
23:57
Speaker 3: they want to tell him.
23:58
Speaker 2: You gotta be careful with shit like that, like the
24:01
Speaker 2: Richard Dody come.
24:02
Speaker 3: I believe Tom DeLong thinks he's doing the right thing.
24:04
Speaker 3: I don't think he's an asshole, you know. I think
24:06
Speaker 3: he's just kind of being played or it could be
24:08
Speaker 3: being played.
24:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was Richard Dody's job with the government.
24:14
Speaker 2: We covered the Mirage Men documentary years ago. I think
24:18
Speaker 2: Laura Crawford was on that episode. I don't think you
24:21
Speaker 2: were on that, Okay, but I don't have you ever
24:23
Speaker 2: seen Mirage Men.
24:24
Speaker 3: I haven't. I've heard of it.
24:25
Speaker 2: It's about rich It's an entire documentary about Richard Dody, okay.
24:30
Speaker 2: And his entire gig with the government was if you
24:36
Speaker 2: like spotted something in the sky that you thought was
24:39
Speaker 2: a UFO, but it was actually like a government project.
24:42
Speaker 2: He would show up magically at your door and be like, hey,
24:46
Speaker 2: that really was a UFO, and let me give you
24:49
Speaker 2: some more information to back that up, and it would
24:52
Speaker 2: be information that was easily debunkible. So once that person
24:57
Speaker 2: put that information out, the government could be like, see
24:59
Speaker 2: this person a liar. You don't have to listen to them.
25:01
Speaker 2: And if it was a UFO, he'd go out and
25:04
Speaker 2: be like, don't worry about it's just a plane. We're
25:06
Speaker 2: working on swamp gas.
25:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just had a big old bag of red
25:11
Speaker 3: herrings and take a red herring. Here's a red herring.
25:13
Speaker 2: Yeah. That was his whole job, was to discredit people
25:17
Speaker 2: who saw shit in the sky.
25:20
Speaker 3: You know, it almost seems like that's the real men
25:22
Speaker 3: in black. It's the men in unremarkable suits. Yeah, just nameless, faceless.
25:28
Speaker 2: That famous. I don't know the exact quote, but Jesse
25:32
Speaker 2: Ventura talking about the meeting he had with the CIA
25:35
Speaker 2: and he's like, they look just like your neighbors, Vince McMahon,
25:40
Speaker 2: and I imagine they do.
25:42
Speaker 3: I'm sure they do. I'm sure they act like them. Yeah,
25:45
Speaker 3: it's probably fucking normal to them. By now. They're like
25:48
Speaker 3: another day of saving the country from evil aliens. You know,
25:51
Speaker 3: they'll think they're doing they think they're doing the right thing.
25:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, by spying on my neighbors.
25:56
Speaker 3: Now, with this threat narrative, Greer argues that all fascism't
25:58
Speaker 3: realize in the creation of a book man. You know,
26:01
Speaker 3: that's that's a that's a good you know, Jews in
26:04
Speaker 3: Nazi Germany, whatever polpot was about. And here's where we
26:07
Speaker 3: get to and against when we talked about before we
26:10
Speaker 3: started recording that many of the most scintillating and uh
26:14
Speaker 3: fucking sort of mic droppy, exciting moments in these in
26:19
Speaker 3: these documentaries are unsubstantiated anecdotes. But this one really gave
26:23
Speaker 3: me chills. And it's one of these things where I
26:25
Speaker 3: just want to believe it's true because it's just awesome.
26:28
Speaker 3: A member of the royal family allegedly told Greer, we
26:31
Speaker 3: need to do things so the public will accept in
26:33
Speaker 3: blood and treasure, the sacrifices needed to bring about an
26:38
Speaker 3: interplanetary warh Now, doesn't that sound like something the royal
26:43
Speaker 3: family would say?
26:44
Speaker 2: It does, especially the blood and treasure. Yeah, that's that's
26:49
Speaker 2: secret society talk.
26:51
Speaker 3: That is how you talk when you're in a banking family. Yeah,
26:54
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You stop calling it wealth
26:56
Speaker 3: or it's treasure.
26:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are strong words and yeah, you mentioned the
27:03
Speaker 2: montage here. Yeah, the music in this in general is
27:07
Speaker 2: very interesting.
27:08
Speaker 3: It is very strange. There's a killer montage of why
27:11
Speaker 3: can't we be friends? With aliens killing us in alien
27:14
Speaker 3: movies as a supposed part of the syop to make
27:17
Speaker 3: us think that they are a threat.
27:19
Speaker 2: Yeah. In the very beginning of the documentary, also, there's
27:22
Speaker 2: like that cold open that lasts for like four or
27:26
Speaker 2: five minutes, and then they cut to the credits and
27:28
Speaker 2: it sounds like the intro to Saturday Night Live. It's
27:32
Speaker 2: just upbeat sax music. Yeah, that's right happening.
27:36
Speaker 3: Now. I'll get ahead of myself a little bit here
27:38
Speaker 3: with the TV and movie stuff. The movie Close Encounters
27:41
Speaker 3: of the Third Kind dealt with telepathy, something that claims
27:44
Speaker 3: is a major facet of alien communication. And he also
27:47
Speaker 3: says that this movie got a lot of things right.
27:49
Speaker 3: There are a lot of things accurate in terms of
27:50
Speaker 3: these real world UFOs, and he claims to have some
27:54
Speaker 3: experience with And what's interesting, and I've read about this before,
27:57
Speaker 3: is a guy named j Allen Heinik, who was the
28:00
Speaker 3: head of Project blue Book, a official government alien project,
28:05
Speaker 3: opened up these files for Spielberg basically just kind of
28:07
Speaker 3: showed them some classified shit and it's like, hey, if
28:09
Speaker 3: you need some mincepoll for your movie, use this. So now,
28:11
Speaker 3: if it's in a Hollywood movie, it can't be true,
28:13
Speaker 3: right right. I've also heard the same thing about a
28:16
Speaker 3: movie called Race to Witch Mountain, which is like a
28:18
Speaker 3: family comedy featuring the Rock, which randomly just has a
28:22
Speaker 3: bunch of this alien shit kind of the same in it.
28:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do hear that as such a common defense too,
28:29
Speaker 2: where people would be like, oh, that's just a thing
28:31
Speaker 2: that was in a book, and it's like, but is
28:35
Speaker 2: the book based on the thing or yes, story people
28:38
Speaker 2: are telling based on the book like which.
28:40
Speaker 3: And also there could never be a coincidence where something
28:42
Speaker 3: in a book happens then in real life.
28:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, even the New World Order was a book
28:48
Speaker 2: by I want to say, HG wells.
28:52
Speaker 3: Oh no shit, And yeah, that's a good chicken in
28:55
Speaker 3: the egg.
28:56
Speaker 2: He wrote a book called The New World Order, And
28:59
Speaker 2: if a person's defense is oh, well, that theory just
29:03
Speaker 2: comes from that book. It's not a fiction book, like
29:07
Speaker 2: it was his thoughts on what kind of government should
29:11
Speaker 2: form in the future. And it's very similar.
29:14
Speaker 3: To people thought the wrong.
29:15
Speaker 1: HG.
29:16
Speaker 3: Wall's story was real. They thought the fucking War of
29:19
Speaker 3: the Worlds was real, when in fact, the New World
29:21
Speaker 3: Order was real.
29:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, New World Order is the real one, you know, war.
29:25
Speaker 3: The World's Maybe he was contributing to the New World
29:28
Speaker 3: Order plot, probably not back in nineteen twenty nine.
29:32
Speaker 2: Or whatever, but yeah, that's a litterarily.
29:34
Speaker 3: Anyhow, Greer claims we've successfully down to many ET crafts,
29:38
Speaker 3: and he shows some interesting footage from the Discovery Space
29:40
Speaker 3: Shuttle that shows a UFO, a little white dot, dodging
29:44
Speaker 3: a big electric current of energy at astonishing speeds that
29:48
Speaker 3: we've seen these crafts move at and the UFO did
29:51
Speaker 3: not retaliate.
29:52
Speaker 2: It's an interesting video.
29:54
Speaker 3: I've it is interesting. Yeah. Now, Greer claims if they
29:57
Speaker 3: were hostile to us, we would have known as soon
29:59
Speaker 3: as we dropped the first atomic bomb. We would have
30:01
Speaker 3: been dead immediately if they wanted us to. I think
30:03
Speaker 3: this is another good argument for peaceful aliens, is that,
30:06
Speaker 3: well they why wouldn't they kill us? Is it a treaty?
30:09
Speaker 3: Do we not have anything they want?
30:11
Speaker 1: Like?
30:12
Speaker 3: What is it? What is it? Then? Because they could clearly,
30:15
Speaker 3: very easily they could just fly these crafts through every
30:17
Speaker 3: building on Earth in a millisecond, right, if they move
30:21
Speaker 3: it infinitely fast speeds, just just warp it through the
30:24
Speaker 3: Chrysler building, you know, boom boom boom.
30:26
Speaker 2: And I mean, if they're working with the kind of
30:29
Speaker 2: technology that can get them here in the first place,
30:33
Speaker 2: there's bound to be some of that technology that's been
30:35
Speaker 2: weaponized in a way that could just destroy us in
30:39
Speaker 2: ways we can't even fathom.
30:41
Speaker 3: I mean, even if they don't have weapons, they have
30:44
Speaker 3: mining equipment or something. They could blow stuff up what
30:46
Speaker 3: they need to probably. So here we'll do a little
30:50
Speaker 3: review of what the different kinds of close encounters are.
30:53
Speaker 3: Close encounter the first kind, it's a siding with no interaction.
30:56
Speaker 3: You see a flying saucer in your backyard, you know,
30:58
Speaker 3: you get this blurry photograp of it, the only kind
31:01
Speaker 3: of photograph of UFOs that exist. Yes, close encounter. The
31:04
Speaker 3: second time, that's physical evidence, crop circles, burnt patches on
31:08
Speaker 3: the ground, wreckage, body parts. Close encounter the third kind
31:12
Speaker 3: citing of an actual flesh and blood alien being or
31:15
Speaker 3: who knows if they have flesh or blood or what,
31:17
Speaker 3: but seeing one.
31:18
Speaker 2: Yeah.
31:18
Speaker 3: Close encounter of the fourth kind was added later somewhat controversially,
31:22
Speaker 3: that's contact aboard of craft, alien abduction and doctor career.
31:26
Speaker 3: Doctor Greer claims he has invented the fifth kind close encounters,
31:29
Speaker 3: the fifth kind human initiated contact right. He claims hundreds
31:33
Speaker 3: of contact experiences with his C five group and other
31:37
Speaker 3: I would call him decentralized groups around the world. We
31:40
Speaker 3: see lots of video footage from them throughout the documentary,
31:44
Speaker 3: and he claims the ETS are worried about our safety
31:46
Speaker 3: and our ability to destroy ourselves. They're almost here to
31:49
Speaker 3: be kind of a nanny to us. They've he says
31:51
Speaker 3: that they've told him we can intercept a lot of
31:54
Speaker 3: your nuclear missiles if a nuclear war breaks out, but
31:56
Speaker 3: not all of them, you know, ye, like we can.
31:59
Speaker 3: We're here to help, is the idea. It goes on
32:02
Speaker 3: to talk about.
32:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting idea. I also would wonder why
32:08
Speaker 2: if that's the case, Like, why would the government not
32:11
Speaker 2: explore that possibility?
32:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess it doesn't serve the military
32:17
Speaker 3: industrial complex. That doesn't make more money for raytheon world peace.
32:21
Speaker 3: You know, free energy that really kind of fucks your
32:23
Speaker 3: pocket books, if you you know, are the CEO of
32:26
Speaker 3: ex on mobile. So Trump argues for dominance in space
32:29
Speaker 3: for America, an attempt to extend their hegemony to the stars.
32:32
Speaker 3: In twenty seventeen, Richard Doty even it on camera that
32:35
Speaker 3: Special ass X projects do stage alien abductions to lay
32:38
Speaker 3: the psychological groundwork for an alien war in the future. Now,
32:40
Speaker 3: this is interesting. He claims that the government has crafts
32:43
Speaker 3: that we've made that function like alien UFOs and travel
32:46
Speaker 3: at these speeds, and they have had these crafts piloted by,
32:51
Speaker 3: for lack of a more sensitive word, deformed people that
32:54
Speaker 3: they can make up to look like aliens or people,
32:56
Speaker 3: you know, for little people or something like that. Like
32:58
Speaker 3: it just strange. So it's industrial light and magic based.
33:02
Speaker 2: Yeah. His argument is basically that the military stage's alien
33:07
Speaker 2: abductions to yes further push this idea that aliens are
33:13
Speaker 2: a threat that we will have to go to war
33:14
Speaker 2: with someday.
33:16
Speaker 3: Now here we go into another one of the great
33:17
Speaker 3: unsubstantiated anecdotes that I hope is true. Gurw claims to
33:21
Speaker 3: have had a meeting with the Crown Prince of Liechtenstein,
33:24
Speaker 3: a country you forget it exists until you hear it.
33:27
Speaker 3: Right right now, This guy said that Grew's efforts were noble,
33:29
Speaker 3: but they would not be permitted. He says they met
33:31
Speaker 3: in New York City in July of nineteen ninety four,
33:33
Speaker 3: and the Crown Prince told him. In nineteen eighty nine,
33:36
Speaker 3: a group was actually trying to push for disclosure, a
33:38
Speaker 3: group that included George Bush, one Gorbachev, and Paris to Quayer,
33:43
Speaker 3: which is the UN Secretary General. Now, while they were
33:46
Speaker 3: doing this, the UN Secretary General was abducted and was
33:49
Speaker 3: told by the people on the craft that if he
33:51
Speaker 3: went through with this, every pertinent leader would be abducted
33:54
Speaker 3: and experience torture and death and what have you. He
33:58
Speaker 3: then said that we must force a planetary war to
34:01
Speaker 3: bring about the return of Christ. Yeah, a crazy prince,
34:06
Speaker 3: a crazy billionaire prince. That's what he thinks about. That's
34:10
Speaker 3: at that point, there's nothing left but traying to make
34:12
Speaker 3: Jesus come back. I believe it.
34:14
Speaker 2: Yeah. And what's terrifying about that is that's also what
34:18
Speaker 2: Reagan believed.
34:19
Speaker 3: Yeah.
34:20
Speaker 2: Reagan was a dispensationalist. He thought that we needed to
34:25
Speaker 2: bring about an apocalyptic end times war to bring Jesus back.
34:31
Speaker 2: George Bush believes it. George Bush George W. Bush for sure.
34:36
Speaker 3: And Reagan also thought we had to sell a lot
34:38
Speaker 3: of cocaine in order to do that.
34:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean, let's be honest, that was probably
34:44
Speaker 2: George H. W. Bush to contra state, for he went
34:48
Speaker 2: from director of the CIA to vice president.
34:52
Speaker 3: Kind of a Cheney before Cheney, you know.
34:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know there was that whole thing where
34:58
Speaker 2: someone shot Reagan in very MK ultra fashion. So I
35:03
Speaker 2: feel like George H. W. Bush was pulling a lot
35:05
Speaker 2: of the strings, like if he was there when this happened.
35:10
Speaker 2: I don't think we had any intent of disclosing anything.
35:14
Speaker 3: I had never thought about the Reagan I'd never thought
35:17
Speaker 3: about the Reagan assassination in terms of MK ultra. That
35:19
Speaker 3: does make too much sense, doesn't it. Well, yeah, it
35:22
Speaker 3: also sounds a lot like regular psychosis.
35:24
Speaker 2: But I did a kind of reverse version of one
35:28
Speaker 2: of these episodes where I ran the CIA tried to
35:32
Speaker 2: assassinate Reagan theory, okay, past a couple of unsuspecting victims,
35:37
Speaker 2: And I believe it, like if you look back at
35:40
Speaker 2: that point in history, that's when the Church Committee hearings
35:44
Speaker 2: are happening and the CIA is being taken to task
35:47
Speaker 2: for mk ultra and all this weird shit they were doing.
35:51
Speaker 2: Jimmy Carter comes into office and he's like, I'm going
35:53
Speaker 2: to reform the CIA, and right near the end of
35:57
Speaker 2: his first term he starts doing that. And then, as
36:00
Speaker 2: if by magic, the director of the CIA is like,
36:04
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to run for vice president.
36:06
Speaker 2: Historic had never been done before. And what happens after
36:10
Speaker 2: Reagan wins, Like a few short weeks later, someone with
36:15
Speaker 2: highly mk ultra type motives tries to shoot Reagan. And
36:19
Speaker 2: then after that, I see.
36:21
Speaker 3: It was so early into his term.
36:22
Speaker 2: You're right, Yeah, it was like almost after, like right
36:26
Speaker 2: after he was inaugurated.
36:28
Speaker 3: That's fucking interesting, Adam, this is your best work since
36:30
Speaker 3: Ace of Base was a Nazi band.
36:32
Speaker 2: I know I'm not the only one who believes this.
36:35
Speaker 2: Someone sent me an episode I want to say, of
36:38
Speaker 2: the Whitest Kids, you know, is that that's all?
36:41
Speaker 3: I fucking love the Whitest Kids, you know. It's an
36:42
Speaker 3: excellent scut show.
36:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's them who did a skit
36:47
Speaker 2: about that exact same idea that the CIA probably was
36:53
Speaker 2: behind the Reagan assassination.
36:56
Speaker 3: I guess that went over my head back when I
36:58
Speaker 3: was a fourteen year old sheeple exactly.
37:01
Speaker 2: And yeah, the CIA from there, they spent the eighties
37:04
Speaker 2: just wrecking Latin America and fucking selling cocaine in the
37:09
Speaker 2: United States freeway.
37:11
Speaker 3: George Bush, Yeah, yeah, all right. So if what Richard
37:15
Speaker 3: Dody said, this whole stage abduction of the UN Secretary General,
37:19
Speaker 3: that was our own government and they want to scare
37:21
Speaker 3: the public so they can get that sweet blood and
37:23
Speaker 3: that delicious treasure.
37:25
Speaker 2: So yeah, that makes sense. If George Bush was there
37:27
Speaker 2: that I would say that was our own government staging that.
37:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, if we had the technology, I mean totally right,
37:34
Speaker 3: I mean, if they had the option, of course I
37:36
Speaker 3: would be interested. Like Stephen Greer has to know how
37:41
Speaker 3: that technology worked, right, please tell us, Oh, zero point
37:44
Speaker 3: energy the technology used to stage the abduction. Oh, like
37:48
Speaker 3: what detractor beam is? Yeah, yeah, I actually haven't heard
37:52
Speaker 3: him really talk about that. There's a lot of I
37:55
Speaker 3: don't think he well, I think he claims to have
37:56
Speaker 3: a general idea of how this stuff works, but a
37:58
Speaker 3: lot of these documentaries focus on him trying to buy
38:01
Speaker 3: the estate of people that have come up with free
38:03
Speaker 3: energy devices and getting outbid by anonymous bidders like I'll
38:07
Speaker 3: jump ahead here a little bit to Stanley Meyer, and
38:10
Speaker 3: I think we've covered stan before. But he had a
38:13
Speaker 3: car that ran on water, and he also had a
38:16
Speaker 3: doughnut shaped toroid electromagnetic device that generated massive amounts of energy,
38:21
Speaker 3: and the patent office totally ignored him. The military industrial
38:25
Speaker 3: complex did not cane it up. On the run for
38:27
Speaker 3: his life, moving from town to town, being chased and
38:29
Speaker 3: harassed by weird government spooks, and supposedly some high up
38:33
Speaker 3: rich people told him that we love your technology. We're
38:37
Speaker 3: looking for a friendly country to debut it in, like
38:40
Speaker 3: they would go to fucking Africa and be acon and
38:43
Speaker 3: do free energy. But he was poisoned and killed at
38:46
Speaker 3: you guessed it, a cracker barrel, and his secrets died
38:49
Speaker 3: with him. Doctor Grich tried to buy his files at
38:51
Speaker 3: auction in two thousand and eight, but he was outbid
38:53
Speaker 3: by an anonymous source. Oo spooy.
38:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is weird.
38:58
Speaker 3: It's pretty weird.
39:00
Speaker 2: Like it stands to reason with all the other things
39:02
Speaker 2: we do in the name of keeping fossil fuels alive,
39:08
Speaker 2: that if technology like that surfaced, of course we would
39:11
Speaker 2: hide it.
39:12
Speaker 3: Now, this is another point in every Stephen Gray documentary.
39:15
Speaker 3: Is the petro fascists, right, and this is not like
39:19
Speaker 3: a myth or anything. The cartel of oil companies that
39:22
Speaker 3: run life on Earth. Yeah, they wouldn't want fucking free
39:25
Speaker 3: energy to come out. How do you sell someone something free?
39:29
Speaker 2: Right? That's the thing you heard with Tesla, like the
39:32
Speaker 2: last thing he was working on. Yes, we're going to
39:35
Speaker 2: get a free energy thing. There's that story about the
39:37
Speaker 2: light bulb that never burns out that I don't know
39:41
Speaker 2: where it is, but it's somewhere, like it's displayed. It's
39:43
Speaker 2: been running ever since it was installed.
39:47
Speaker 3: Is a thing. I don't know if I've heard of this.
39:49
Speaker 2: The centennial light bulb. It glows around the clock at
39:53
Speaker 2: the Livermore Pleasanton Fire Department. Ever been Nope, I don't
39:58
Speaker 2: know where that is, but yeah.
40:01
Speaker 3: It's near the cracker barrel that fucking stan Meyer died at.
40:05
Speaker 2: Oh shit, it's in California.
40:07
Speaker 3: Oh fuver, Adam. Let's let's go, dude.
40:09
Speaker 2: We absolutely should go. It's been burning since nineteen oh one,
40:15
Speaker 2: fuck me and one, almost never been turned off.
40:21
Speaker 3: That's like JFK's eternal flame.
40:23
Speaker 2: But cool, yeah, exactly.
40:25
Speaker 3: Now hearing the doc doctor Grisher is a little personal
40:27
Speaker 3: story about a colleague asked him why he didn't kill
40:29
Speaker 3: himself like his father did, who had known some of
40:32
Speaker 3: the same information, and he begins to cry, legitimately cry.
40:36
Speaker 2: It's a heavy moment.
40:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels very sincere. And he confides that he's
40:40
Speaker 3: lost many members of a team to suicide. I've seen
40:43
Speaker 3: other documentaries where he's talked about like six of the
40:45
Speaker 3: people on his team got cancer in the same month. Yeah,
40:49
Speaker 3: lost people to similar circumstances in the serious documentary that
40:52
Speaker 3: he does. I pulled this little tidbit. Will William Coleby,
40:55
Speaker 3: a CIA director, took Greer seriously and they had meetings together,
40:58
Speaker 3: and he said, when you talk about these things, there
41:01
Speaker 3: is some danger to your reputation and to your person.
41:03
Speaker 3: People do react violently to some charges. They have audio
41:06
Speaker 3: tape of him saying this. In April twenty seventh, nineteen
41:09
Speaker 3: ninety six, he died drowning in the Potomac River. His
41:12
Speaker 3: body was found nine days later. The report said, you
41:14
Speaker 3: guessed it's suicide. He had been a whistleblower on Wall
41:17
Speaker 3: Street investors in a magazine called Strategic Involvement.
41:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, William Colby is an interesting character too.
41:24
Speaker 3: Oh, you've covered him too.
41:26
Speaker 2: I haven't covered him yet. I covered a book called
41:30
Speaker 2: The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence, which is the
41:33
Speaker 2: first book the government ever went to court to try
41:36
Speaker 2: and censor.
41:37
Speaker 3: Oh that's cool.
41:38
Speaker 2: It was in the seventies, like right around the time
41:41
Speaker 2: of the Pentagon papers, and this former CIA agent just
41:46
Speaker 2: like defected, like the agency, not the country, and like
41:50
Speaker 2: went rogue and wrote this book, and they ended up
41:53
Speaker 2: making him censor a whole lot of it.
41:55
Speaker 3: But no, Wow, the stuff that's.
41:57
Speaker 2: In there is fascinating.
41:58
Speaker 3: I got it.
41:59
Speaker 2: Eventually, he eventually gets to William Colby and it's called
42:04
Speaker 2: The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence. You can probably
42:08
Speaker 2: find it on eBay for sheep. It's way way way
42:12
Speaker 2: out of.
42:12
Speaker 3: Project one of those fucking books. Yeah, hell yeah.
42:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those books that has conveniently been lost.
42:20
Speaker 3: Dude. I got a killer a cold bookstar by my house.
42:24
Speaker 3: Go to the Iliad Books in North Hollywood, by the way,
42:26
Speaker 3: it's a fucking great small business. And I got a trilogy.
42:30
Speaker 3: I got all of Robert Monroe's fucking astral projection books
42:33
Speaker 3: about him teaching the CIA how to do astral projection.
42:37
Speaker 3: Oh nice, Journeys out of the body for our journeys.
42:40
Speaker 3: I haven't read them yet, but uh, cool shit, that's amazing.
42:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to bring them back. But for a
42:47
Speaker 2: while there I was doing banned media report episodes. Oh
42:52
Speaker 2: that's great, cover stuff that has like fallen. Like that's
42:57
Speaker 2: kind of how the Jonestown started because I found this
43:01
Speaker 2: book called was Jonestown a CIA medical Experiment? And here's
43:06
Speaker 2: the thing, absolutely.
43:09
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's awesome. Another thing that kind of
43:12
Speaker 3: reeks of MK ultra, you know.
43:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what the just theory is is that
43:17
Speaker 2: Jonestown was like the field experiment version of mk ultra
43:22
Speaker 2: because up to that point it had all been done
43:24
Speaker 2: in hospital rooms and like psychologists offices. And the next
43:28
Speaker 2: step is, obviously you test it on a big group
43:32
Speaker 2: of people.
43:32
Speaker 3: All at once, real world.
43:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the thinking like even at the time, there
43:37
Speaker 2: were like actual US politicians after Jonestown, like like after
43:43
Speaker 2: everything happened, who were like, this feels like the CIA,
43:46
Speaker 2: like this.
43:47
Speaker 3: This feels it just has their fingerprints all over it,
43:51
Speaker 3: down to the kool aid.
43:52
Speaker 2: Really yeah, flavor aid.
43:55
Speaker 3: No flavor ed. That's right. God, to fucking die drinking
43:58
Speaker 3: off brand shit, you know what I mean?
44:01
Speaker 2: Man did flavor a dodge a bullet there.
44:03
Speaker 3: Like, I'm not even drink eating a poison Oreo, it's
44:06
Speaker 3: a poison Jojo from Trader Joe's.
44:09
Speaker 2: Poison high drocks. Uh yeah, all right, Hydrox sounds like
44:13
Speaker 2: poison already.
44:14
Speaker 3: It does. This to me feels like kind of the
44:16
Speaker 3: keystone to every conspiracy with this, like the petro fascists
44:20
Speaker 3: and the free energy and why hasn't like why hasn't
44:24
Speaker 3: any like he makes this point in the Lost Century,
44:26
Speaker 3: Why hasn't any new cool shit come out? Ever? Like,
44:28
Speaker 3: why haven't we gotten any new Why has it been
44:31
Speaker 3: like since nineteen forty that we fucking I mean but
44:33
Speaker 3: like an iPad little shit but nothing substantial. It's still
44:37
Speaker 3: all oil and coal and bullshit. And even the fucking
44:41
Speaker 3: Tesla's cars like that fucking there's a five year old
44:44
Speaker 3: kid with a covered face dying in the congo fucking
44:48
Speaker 3: pulling clothbelt out of the ground. Like it's not a clean,
44:51
Speaker 3: awesome alternative entirely right, So that's what kind of makes
44:54
Speaker 3: this shit so interesting to me. Another anecdote shares the
44:58
Speaker 3: French Ministry of Defense reached out to duck Were in
45:00
Speaker 3: two thousand and seven to trans senior officials in the
45:02
Speaker 3: C five protocols. They're interested. They thought he had some
45:05
Speaker 3: of the sauce they wanted a peace. During a test
45:07
Speaker 3: run in the countryside, they spotted a craft moving two
45:10
Speaker 3: thousand kilometers per hour, probably just swamp gas. It then
45:13
Speaker 3: materialized close to the group for a blurry photo which
45:16
Speaker 3: he shares in the dock, and this operation was swiftly
45:19
Speaker 3: hauled by national security state interests. They said that the
45:21
Speaker 3: evolution of consciousness is a threat to the one percent.
45:24
Speaker 3: Higher consciousness dissolves the idea of differences between humankind and
45:28
Speaker 3: the faculty for self awarenesses, a singularity which allows for
45:31
Speaker 3: a unit of state where an aliens are just another
45:33
Speaker 3: kind of people. Little culture or consciousness not foreign to
45:36
Speaker 3: us at all. So they say that they basically they're
45:39
Speaker 3: trying to keep you asleep, man.
45:41
Speaker 2: And here's the thing, Like we might laugh it up
45:45
Speaker 2: about what's being said here, especially like the idea, like
45:50
Speaker 2: what they're getting at when they're talking about a higher consciousness.
45:54
Speaker 2: A lot of it really boils down to like the
45:56
Speaker 2: secret or like the idea that you can manifest things
46:00
Speaker 2: by thinking of them, and here's the thing.
46:03
Speaker 3: Or even just that you don't have to feel like
46:04
Speaker 3: shit all the time.
46:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like we laugh it up about that, but
46:09
Speaker 2: rich people believe that shit.
46:10
Speaker 3: The Prince of Liechtenstein is trying to bring Jesus back
46:13
Speaker 3: the like there's I do something called the Course of Miracles,
46:17
Speaker 3: which is like a three hundred and sixty five day
46:19
Speaker 3: workbook for inner piece more or less. And I did
46:21
Speaker 3: it because I found out that jay Z wrapped about
46:23
Speaker 3: it and Beyonce talked about it, and I'm like, all right,
46:26
Speaker 3: it was good enough for you. I'm an if jay
46:29
Speaker 3: Z does it. Yeah, but I think that's what these
46:32
Speaker 3: people are just did. At that point in life. What
46:33
Speaker 3: do you have except interput peace to strive for once
46:36
Speaker 3: you know you're never gonna have to work a second
46:38
Speaker 3: if you don't have to.
46:40
Speaker 2: Right, And so yeah, I like I could see the
46:43
Speaker 2: one percent being like whoa, whoa, whoa whoa whoa, Like
46:46
Speaker 2: we don't we don't really want people to know that.
46:50
Speaker 2: But also then how the secret happen?
46:52
Speaker 3: Well, and then we can go back to king to
46:54
Speaker 3: Kennedy Kennedy King X, where they don't want you to
46:58
Speaker 3: know that we're people are all the same. And then
47:00
Speaker 3: if we'll have red colored blood and fucking pink colored brains. Yeah, yeah,
47:05
Speaker 3: it's patently obvious.
47:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is evidence of that.
47:08
Speaker 3: Now here's a corroboratable thing that I think is fucking fascinating.
47:11
Speaker 3: And this is another one that really sticks with me.
47:13
Speaker 3: The CEO of Lockheeds skunk Works, Ben Rich, gave a
47:16
Speaker 3: PowerPoint presentation at a college and in the last slide
47:20
Speaker 3: was a black disc zipping off into outer space, and
47:23
Speaker 3: he then closed the talk by saying, we now have
47:25
Speaker 3: the technology to take et home. He's fucking bragging about it.
47:30
Speaker 3: He's playing I'm not touching you with this shit, you know,
47:33
Speaker 3: Like this is kind of sick to me, Like, hey,
47:36
Speaker 3: we could make it so all electricity in the country
47:39
Speaker 3: is free, but fuck you.
47:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is kind of disheartening. But it it also
47:44
Speaker 2: like my most hopeful personal conspiracy theory is that it's
47:48
Speaker 2: kind of this where we have the ability to pull
47:52
Speaker 2: ourselves out of global warming. Yeah, but we're not gonna
47:55
Speaker 2: not sell all this oil first and then when it
47:59
Speaker 2: and like sure, millions, probably billions of poor people are
48:03
Speaker 2: going to die in the process, but yeah, eventually it's
48:07
Speaker 2: gonna be fine.
48:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, as soon as they'll wait till it's like
48:11
Speaker 3: the we got four days left to fix it, and
48:13
Speaker 3: they'll be like, all right, turn on the d humidifier
48:16
Speaker 3: for the earth.
48:17
Speaker 2: And I think that is one of the facets of
48:19
Speaker 2: this conspiracy. Oh yeah, And I think I've heard that
48:23
Speaker 2: from Stephen Greer that now they're kind of in a
48:26
Speaker 2: pickle in that they've had all this like free energy
48:30
Speaker 2: technology all this time, and had they deployed it back
48:34
Speaker 2: when we knew we had it, a lot of people
48:36
Speaker 2: would have not died. And so then what do you do,
48:40
Speaker 2: Like then, can you ever tell people that you that we.
48:43
Speaker 3: Had the magic solution the entire time? That's a great point.
48:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that that that really is painting yourself
48:49
Speaker 2: into a corner.
48:50
Speaker 3: Like copping to it. You you basically have to reveal,
48:53
Speaker 3: like we are the Nazis. We just moved over here
48:56
Speaker 3: after the war was done.
48:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, that's not true. We're not the Nazis.
49:02
Speaker 3: Oh, we just have all their scientists and values and
49:05
Speaker 3: strategies exactly. America is the fourth Reich baby. All right.
49:09
Speaker 3: So there's a guy in this documentary who goes up
49:12
Speaker 3: to this guy supposedly after this presentation, man named Ben.
49:16
Speaker 3: He asked him how it all worked? No not Ben,
49:18
Speaker 3: Ben is the CEO. Sorry, I'm fucking on my own notes.
49:20
Speaker 3: Sky asked Ben, does how it all works? Heyes, this
49:23
Speaker 3: guy how it works? Ben tells him how does esp work?
49:26
Speaker 3: Demand answers all points in space and time are connected,
49:29
Speaker 3: and then Ben says, that's how it works. Now Here.
49:32
Speaker 3: Gura goes on to elaborate on his theories a little bit,
49:34
Speaker 3: and he says that any et craft scene on Earth
49:36
Speaker 3: must have faster than light travel the andromeded galaxies, however,
49:39
Speaker 3: many million light years away, would take. However, many million
49:42
Speaker 3: years they get here traveling at the speed of light,
49:44
Speaker 3: the fastest possible speed. So any communication systems they have
49:48
Speaker 3: must also travel faster than light, and he refers to
49:50
Speaker 3: this at the speed of thought. He claims that the
49:52
Speaker 3: central operating system for interestental interstellar civilizations is thought and
49:57
Speaker 3: technology that runs on thought. This is not exactly a
50:00
Speaker 3: foreign idea to not every religion, but most of them.
50:03
Speaker 3: There's quite a few of them have this universal energy concept.
50:08
Speaker 3: Chinese called the chi. I forget who calls it mana
50:10
Speaker 3: I think in Hawaii they call it prana. Some Japanese
50:13
Speaker 3: had Ki call it magic, magic with a k. If
50:17
Speaker 3: you were on the sipod forums like I was when
50:19
Speaker 3: I was twelve years old, you'd call it SI. I
50:21
Speaker 3: was an old website called Psychic Students in Pursuit of
50:23
Speaker 3: Guidance where thirteen year olds convinced themselves they could do Telekinesis.
50:28
Speaker 2: That sounds amazing?
50:30
Speaker 3: It was sick. We had a good time.
50:33
Speaker 2: Am I completely incorrect in that thought? Is sort of
50:37
Speaker 2: how those things we called hoverboards that absolutely were not hoverboards,
50:42
Speaker 2: but that like tended to catch on fire and things like.
50:46
Speaker 2: Isn't that kind of how those work? Like you just
50:48
Speaker 2: sort of think about what way you want to go.
50:50
Speaker 3: It does get to that intuitive, that level of intuitiveness.
50:54
Speaker 3: I think that's exactly what they're referring to. You could
50:57
Speaker 3: maybe say the same thing about a really well tuned
50:59
Speaker 3: up car or something like driving it around a racetrack
51:01
Speaker 3: or on a rally rally course. But this is like
51:05
Speaker 3: an interface of like your Apple TV. You just think
51:08
Speaker 3: about Barry and then bang, you're watching it.
51:10
Speaker 2: I should have tried it, but at one point, and
51:13
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, the only reason I didn't try
51:15
Speaker 2: it is it was Domino's. But they claimed for a
51:18
Speaker 2: while to have a feature in their app where you
51:20
Speaker 2: could just think about what kind of pizza you wanted
51:23
Speaker 2: to order, and it would like pop up.
51:25
Speaker 3: Oh interesting.
51:26
Speaker 2: I swear had it been like Papa John's or Pizza Hut,
51:29
Speaker 2: I would have been all in.
51:30
Speaker 3: But yeah, I can't have a Domino's.
51:32
Speaker 2: Guy, I can't even stomach Dominoes. For science.
51:34
Speaker 3: You don't like an impression of a pizza. You ate
51:38
Speaker 3: it so much, it's like a third dimensional impression of something.
51:41
Speaker 3: It's all it's not really bread, it's not really sauce.
51:44
Speaker 3: It's definitely not cheese. It looks in the Little Caesars
51:47
Speaker 3: is more of a pizza.
51:48
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, way more, way more now.
51:51
Speaker 3: Kind of getting into his universal consciousness stuff, Career talks
51:53
Speaker 3: about astronaut Edgar Mitchell, who claimed to have an expanded
51:57
Speaker 3: state of consciousness while he was in space and he
51:59
Speaker 3: later have found a consciousness research facility, and he said
52:03
Speaker 3: that one of the messages received was that UFOs wanted
52:06
Speaker 3: us and the aliens wanted us to develop this awareness.
52:08
Speaker 3: They want us to do this, And he said, I
52:11
Speaker 3: theorize that there is a spectrum of consciousness available to
52:13
Speaker 3: human beings. At one end is material consciousness. At the
52:16
Speaker 3: other hand, is what we call field consciousness, or a
52:19
Speaker 3: person is at one with the universe, perceiving the universe.
52:22
Speaker 3: Just by looking at our planet. On the way back,
52:24
Speaker 3: I saw her felt a field consciousness state. And I'm
52:27
Speaker 3: reminded here of a Nicola Tesla quote I love. If
52:29
Speaker 3: you want to find the secrets of the universe, think
52:31
Speaker 3: in terms of energy frequency and vibration. So, uh, astronauts
52:36
Speaker 3: are getting woo woo, you know, yeah, corroborating the greer dog.
52:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, and in terms of the idea that this technology
52:46
Speaker 2: might exist but is being suppressed by the governments of
52:49
Speaker 2: the world. Like it's one of those theories that answers
52:53
Speaker 2: all all of a skeptics questions, like and it's very.
52:56
Speaker 3: Interesting that this technology is kind of hidden in your
52:59
Speaker 3: own sk goal on some level according to these people.
53:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know you might ask, well, to what end, Like, well,
53:07
Speaker 2: obviously to serve the fucking oil industry, in the fossil
53:10
Speaker 2: fuel industry, like our government does so sell dodge trucks.
53:14
Speaker 3: Dude.
53:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's as simple as that. Like, of course they
53:18
Speaker 2: would hide this technology if it exists.
53:20
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no. He here brings in a guy from
53:23
Speaker 3: the Princeton Engineering Anomalies facility, guy named Adam Michael Curry
53:27
Speaker 3: claims that consciousness is not as strictly produced by the brain.
53:30
Speaker 3: It's not like a byproduct of the brain and involves
53:33
Speaker 3: the brain, but we may not be localized to our body,
53:36
Speaker 3: rather a fundamental feature of the physical world in which
53:39
Speaker 3: we live, like the brain is almost like a radio
53:41
Speaker 3: that picks up consciousness on a certain bandwidth. Yeah, and
53:45
Speaker 3: a guy named doctor Dean Raydon, who's the chief scientist
53:49
Speaker 3: at the Institute of Nodic Sciences, says the universe looks
53:51
Speaker 3: less like a big machine than a big thought. Quite interesting.
53:55
Speaker 3: Doctor Grusay's consciousness transcends the limits of time and space
53:58
Speaker 3: as an unbounded field of awareness. Doctor John Back at
54:01
Speaker 3: Princeton had people focus their awareness on a random number generator.
54:04
Speaker 3: Some of these experiments I thought were really interesting and
54:06
Speaker 3: through only conscious effort, the numbers would shift dramatically towards
54:09
Speaker 3: zero one depending on the choice of the guy focusing.
54:12
Speaker 3: A machine design that just produced zeros and ones at
54:14
Speaker 3: a certain clip responds to your attention to it. And
54:18
Speaker 3: I was reminded of something that's not in this documentary.
54:20
Speaker 3: They probably should have put it in maybe it hadn't
54:23
Speaker 3: happened yet, but someone asked the Dally Lama, does a
54:26
Speaker 3: random number generator have consciousness? And he thought about it
54:28
Speaker 3: for a second and he said, if you think it does,
54:31
Speaker 3: then it does.
54:32
Speaker 2: Yeah.
54:33
Speaker 3: Event there's another quote from doctor Boehm, who was a
54:36
Speaker 3: great physicist. In this flow, mind and matter are not
54:39
Speaker 3: separate substances. Rather they are different aspects of one whole
54:42
Speaker 3: and unbroken movement. And my favorite Erwin Schroding, the total
54:46
Speaker 3: number of minds in the universe is one. In fact,
54:48
Speaker 3: consciousness is a singularity phasing within all beings. So this
54:51
Speaker 3: is not a crazy idea to everyone in the scientific community.
54:55
Speaker 3: Is I guess what he's getting at here? This is
54:57
Speaker 3: something that people have been talking about since the Fuck
55:00
Speaker 3: Cat and a Box Guy.
55:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's like, there's just so many different versions
55:06
Speaker 2: of that idea, Like that idea that you know you
55:09
Speaker 2: can shape your reality just by thinking about it.
55:13
Speaker 3: Had like the first we thought hard enough about being
55:16
Speaker 3: conspiracy podcasters and it just happened.
55:18
Speaker 2: Just fell into our laps out of nowhere.
55:21
Speaker 3: Crazy cocaine and stripper lifestyle.
55:24
Speaker 2: Have you ever read the Science of Getting rich? No,
55:27
Speaker 2: we covered it as part of an episode about the
55:30
Speaker 2: three books that explain Donald Trump and the science of
55:34
Speaker 2: Getting Rich. Is pretty much the first version of the
55:38
Speaker 2: Secret Okay, and it's all it came out in I
55:42
Speaker 2: think nineteen ten.
55:44
Speaker 3: Kind of like thinking grow rich is very secrety. Yeah,
55:47
Speaker 3: I've read that one.
55:48
Speaker 2: And it's it's the exact same thing. It's you know,
55:52
Speaker 2: your thoughts determine what happens. But what's really fun about
55:56
Speaker 2: it is it happened like that book came out when
55:59
Speaker 2: the New Age movement was also kind of taking root
56:03
Speaker 2: in this country, and it was a point in history
56:06
Speaker 2: when we took ghosts a whole lot more seriously as
56:10
Speaker 2: a society. So there's a whole section of this book
56:13
Speaker 2: that's just like, Hey, you don't worry about ghosts. Don't
56:16
Speaker 2: spend your time bothering ghosts. They got other things to do.
56:19
Speaker 3: You a bad for money.
56:20
Speaker 2: You worry about making yourself rich. Those ghosts are going
56:23
Speaker 2: to keep you poor. That's great advice.
56:26
Speaker 3: That is awesome. They'd be like, and if Bigfoot shows up,
56:30
Speaker 3: you tell that homeless motherfucker to hit the bricks, get
56:34
Speaker 3: a job Bigfoot. Another random number Eator generator experience experiment
56:40
Speaker 3: they put a plant in the center of a room,
56:42
Speaker 3: and they had a light hanging above the plant, and
56:44
Speaker 3: the direction of the light was determined by a random
56:48
Speaker 3: number generator. It would point just move randomly around the room,
56:51
Speaker 3: and they found that as time went on, it focused
56:54
Speaker 3: on the plant the majority of the time. Despite having
56:58
Speaker 3: let's say, you know, a nine locations in a square,
57:01
Speaker 3: you know, one, you know, equidistant boxes of each other,
57:04
Speaker 3: the box that had the plan in it, number nine,
57:07
Speaker 3: number seven, whatever was where the light shone the majority
57:11
Speaker 3: of the time. Again, interesting idea that life can have
57:14
Speaker 3: some magnet to these things. Yeah, yeah, I like.
57:19
Speaker 2: The random number generator lamp that they show.
57:23
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that what you think about a color and
57:25
Speaker 3: it turns that fucking color.
57:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nuts. And also it feels like the kind
57:31
Speaker 2: of thing I'll probably end up buying on. Oh god, yeah,
57:34
Speaker 2: we're an Instagram ad like six months from now, Like
57:37
Speaker 2: that's how that technology is going to be deployed.
57:40
Speaker 3: I'd be like, I'm fucking working on my psychic powers again.
57:42
Speaker 3: I got this motherfucker green for hours.
57:45
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it'll just be a thing that lets my
57:48
Speaker 2: pet call me a bitch or something instead of doing
57:51
Speaker 2: anything good In the world.
57:53
Speaker 3: Now, Greer claims that this shit is no secret to
57:56
Speaker 3: the government, to the deep state, whatever you want to.
58:00
Speaker 3: All the claims that the biggest classified projects deal with consciousness,
58:03
Speaker 3: and since the nineteen fifties US has been fascinated with
58:06
Speaker 3: remote viewing. Now this we know is like a historical fact.
58:08
Speaker 3: There was a twenty year program at Stanford that worked
58:10
Speaker 3: to describe what the Russians of the Chinese were doing,
58:12
Speaker 3: what direction the market would move, and in fact, once
58:15
Speaker 3: for nine forecasts, nine weeks in a row, they were
58:17
Speaker 3: all correct and made one hundred and twenty grand for
58:19
Speaker 3: the project. This was an article in the New York Times.
58:22
Speaker 3: Can't believe they let that one out.
58:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, I found that really interesting. I wasn't able to
58:28
Speaker 2: find the exact article because they called it the The
58:32
Speaker 2: headline said the CIA's crystal ball. And I want to
58:34
Speaker 2: find that original article. I found some with a similar title,
58:37
Speaker 2: but I don't think.
58:38
Speaker 3: It's Oh, I'd be interested to see you too. That's
58:40
Speaker 3: the thing that kills me about watching these documentaries, as
58:42
Speaker 3: I wish there was a PDF I could just look to.
58:44
Speaker 3: I'd look through after and just read all this shit myself.
58:47
Speaker 3: Maybe there is.
58:48
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, especially with documentaries like this, there's so many
58:53
Speaker 2: things that a person would conceivably want to go out
58:58
Speaker 2: and maybe sort of fact check for themselves.
59:01
Speaker 3: Let's I would love if doctor Veer had a receipt
59:03
Speaker 3: from the dinner where he met with the Crown Prince
59:06
Speaker 3: of Liechtenstein. It's like, you know what I mean.
59:08
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, was there no picture? Not a single Just
59:11
Speaker 2: for my.
59:11
Speaker 3: Sake, when I'm talking about this stuff, going no, no, no,
59:13
Speaker 3: there's proof, there's proof. Yeah, all right here he drops
59:18
Speaker 3: an Einstein quote. Everyone who is seriously interested in the
59:20
Speaker 3: pursuit of science becomes convinced that spirit is manifest in
59:23
Speaker 3: the laws of the universe, a spirit vastly superior to man,
59:27
Speaker 3: and one in the face of which our modest powers
59:29
Speaker 3: must seem humble. Damn. What an eloquent motherfucker. Yeah, yeah,
59:34
Speaker 3: he more proof that people take this shit seriously.
59:37
Speaker 2: He knew some shit too.
59:38
Speaker 3: Now. He talks a bit about the hindu Vedas and
59:41
Speaker 3: the Buddhists, kind of describing a lot of these almost superpowers,
59:45
Speaker 3: the idea to quiet your minds and you can look
59:48
Speaker 3: into the future, see through the distance. Heal the sick,
59:50
Speaker 3: diagnose illnesses, and in the case of the the CDs,
59:54
Speaker 3: they get even more dragonball z. He talks about levitation, teleportation, bilocation, trilocation, realizing,
1:00:00
Speaker 3: de materializing, going through solid objects, precognition, telepathy, And there's
1:00:05
Speaker 3: a dea classified CIA document that actually compares the behavior
1:00:09
Speaker 3: of UFOs. This is like from like the forties or
1:00:11
Speaker 3: fifties in these terms, to the Hindu CDs to these
1:00:14
Speaker 3: powers written about in the Vedas, these ancient texts, and
1:00:17
Speaker 3: they read like something out of fucking dragon ball z. Yeah,
1:00:20
Speaker 3: the government is going, hey, dragon ball z is real.
1:00:23
Speaker 2: Uh.
1:00:24
Speaker 3: The Hindu said that these things develop spontaneously and naturally
1:00:27
Speaker 3: with higher states of consciousness, and they weren't seen as
1:00:29
Speaker 3: an exotic phenomenon. That was just a fact. It's like
1:00:32
Speaker 3: when you learn to read, you learn to walk, you
1:00:33
Speaker 3: learn to ride a bike, you learn to teleport, you know,
1:00:35
Speaker 3: it's part of your life.
1:00:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's an interesting idea.
1:00:38
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if you took all the high fruitos,
1:00:41
Speaker 3: corn syrup, porn and Instagram out of my brain if
1:00:43
Speaker 3: I could do a lot more fucking shit with it,
1:00:45
Speaker 3: you know, probably.
1:00:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the question, is like, how do you
1:00:50
Speaker 2: unlock all of that. Like there's books out there I
1:00:54
Speaker 2: know about things.
1:00:55
Speaker 3: Like this, but oh, I've looked at all of them.
1:00:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it still seems like no one I know
1:00:59
Speaker 2: has like been able to flip that into being able
1:01:02
Speaker 2: to like view things remotely.
1:01:04
Speaker 3: I would think I would get to the point where
1:01:07
Speaker 3: I would say that the most like documented psychic power
1:01:11
Speaker 3: actually might be CE five, just based on the number
1:01:14
Speaker 3: of videos they have. I mean, you saw the docu,
1:01:17
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of videos from people around
1:01:18
Speaker 3: the world, different groups, places doctor Grip is not even
1:01:21
Speaker 3: present at. And I'll give it to you that you
1:01:23
Speaker 3: can fake all of these videos. You can go into
1:01:25
Speaker 3: Adobe after effects. But it's like they did it in
1:01:27
Speaker 3: two thousand and seven. Was some guy just was able
1:01:31
Speaker 3: to do Hollywood level and all over the world and everybody,
1:01:34
Speaker 3: you know, it's like it's they're all fake.
1:01:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. They can't all be fake. I mean,
1:01:40
Speaker 2: I know they can be, but.
1:01:41
Speaker 3: And I've read, I've been I've been interested to going
1:01:43
Speaker 3: to a C five meet up for a while, and
1:01:46
Speaker 3: I've kind of been on some of the groups or whatever,
1:01:48
Speaker 3: and you see people talking about it, and I'm just
1:01:50
Speaker 3: like some of these some of this guy's just John
1:01:51
Speaker 3: on Facebook. I don't know, I don't I'm not sure
1:01:53
Speaker 3: that he's an OP.
1:01:54
Speaker 2: Right, I'm sure he charges for those, right, because that.
1:01:58
Speaker 3: There's some of them he charges for. He do like
1:02:00
Speaker 3: retreats where you go for like three days but just
1:02:03
Speaker 3: to go to a CE five event. Like I said,
1:02:06
Speaker 3: a lot of them are decentralizers run by some dude
1:02:08
Speaker 3: named Larry, who you know likes to meditate.
1:02:11
Speaker 2: And it really it's just like everyone getting together and
1:02:14
Speaker 2: focusing their energy on making contact with an alien.
1:02:18
Speaker 3: You kind of go fishing for aliens by meditating, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:02:22
Speaker 3: And then he describes the process of bringing him to Earth,
1:02:25
Speaker 3: where you sort of connect with them and then you
1:02:28
Speaker 3: vector them. Okay, you go, okay, milky way, and in
1:02:30
Speaker 3: the Milky Way, orbiting the sun, we're on the Earth
1:02:34
Speaker 3: or in this continent or in this state, or in
1:02:36
Speaker 3: this county or in this location. And it all sounds
1:02:41
Speaker 3: like horseshit until you see these fucking glowing orbs in
1:02:43
Speaker 3: the sky doing like light shows, and you go, okay, well,
1:02:46
Speaker 3: now I don't know what the fuck to think about
1:02:48
Speaker 3: anything that's ever happened in my life.
1:02:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's this the interview with the guy who
1:02:54
Speaker 2: got his hearing back.
1:02:56
Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah, they've claimed some spontaneous healing stuff. And this
1:02:59
Speaker 3: is where, like I get a little skeptical, because Greer
1:03:02
Speaker 3: describes an experience when he's young, where he's he's taken
1:03:06
Speaker 3: onto a craft. He merges with these ets consciously, he
1:03:10
Speaker 3: connects with them, and they take them aboard his craft,
1:03:12
Speaker 3: and he says they kind of developed these protocols together.
1:03:15
Speaker 3: And this is where I go, you're kind of setting
1:03:16
Speaker 3: this may very well have happened, and you may very
1:03:19
Speaker 3: well be the guy they picked. But it does to
1:03:21
Speaker 3: me sound like a christ figure narrative. That is a
1:03:24
Speaker 3: little troubling. Now. The thing that kind of makes me
1:03:28
Speaker 3: more on the believe side is that doctor Greer always
1:03:31
Speaker 3: looks tired, and he always looks like he wished he
1:03:33
Speaker 3: didn't have to do this, and like he seems like
1:03:36
Speaker 3: he's here because of some deep moral obligation, and he
1:03:39
Speaker 3: doesn't really hawk merch. He just kind of does seminars
1:03:42
Speaker 3: and perhaps he believes them, you know, uh yeah, I
1:03:46
Speaker 3: mean he doesn't seem too shilly.
1:03:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone in this has to have their heart in
1:03:51
Speaker 2: the right place. I would hope, I would hope and
1:03:55
Speaker 2: I mean, the only way Stephen Greer wouldn't is if
1:03:59
Speaker 2: he's like actively working for the aliens, because his whole
1:04:03
Speaker 2: thing is now they're actually like, they're pretty chill, dude.
1:04:07
Speaker 3: That would be so funny if he was an op
1:04:09
Speaker 3: for the Aliens and he's like, the invasion is going great,
1:04:12
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna get all of that fucking trisomic gold
1:04:16
Speaker 3: or whatever. Yeah, monotonic gold. That's the conspiracy thing, right,
1:04:20
Speaker 3: That's that's what the monotonic gold. That's what the Onanaki's
1:04:23
Speaker 3: we're here to get or something.
1:04:24
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think I know about that.
1:04:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when you get deep into the Gaya channel
1:04:29
Speaker 3: around four in the morning, when the marijuana takes hold.
1:04:34
Speaker 3: All Right, we'll go through a little more of his
1:04:36
Speaker 3: kind of h he's so basically Doctor Grew's whole journey
1:04:40
Speaker 3: starts he has a near death experience when he's seventeen.
1:04:42
Speaker 3: He's very sick and he's just wasting away, dying, and
1:04:45
Speaker 3: he finds his one drop of human awareness merging with
1:04:48
Speaker 3: this oceanic cosmic mind and this gets him interested in meditation,
1:04:52
Speaker 3: and he argues that like a hologram, every conscious or
1:04:55
Speaker 3: living entity contains within it the multitudes of the universe.
1:04:58
Speaker 3: You know, one part of it can be used to
1:05:00
Speaker 3: recreate the whole. And he says this is available to
1:05:03
Speaker 3: us in any state of quiet. There's a Baja teaching,
1:05:06
Speaker 3: Bahai teaching. He references here Dosta reckon myself only a
1:05:09
Speaker 3: puniform when the universe with when within the the universe
1:05:13
Speaker 3: is folded.
1:05:14
Speaker 2: Hmm.
1:05:16
Speaker 3: Deep does a little ancient alien stuff here, talking about
1:05:19
Speaker 3: the Japanese, saying that their civilization was given him to
1:05:21
Speaker 3: them by people called the Doomu and what they called
1:05:24
Speaker 3: flying boats from the universe. Talks about some Sanskrit texts
1:05:27
Speaker 3: that have descriptions of flying crafts that predate any conception, notion,
1:05:31
Speaker 3: idea of an aircraft. That's the thing about this stuff too,
1:05:35
Speaker 3: It makes ancient aliens sound a little less stupid.
1:05:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, ancient aliens is a thing I'm still really skeptical about,
1:05:42
Speaker 2: just because so much of it boils down to, like
1:05:46
Speaker 2: when you really reach the end of that journey, a
1:05:49
Speaker 2: lot of it comes down to, now, these primitive fucks
1:05:52
Speaker 2: didn't figure anything out. It was time traveling arians. Yeah,
1:05:56
Speaker 2: they everything out and like it gets into the fair
1:05:59
Speaker 2: in fiction very quickly and it like that theory kind
1:06:03
Speaker 2: of originates with the Nazis, because the Nazis had that
1:06:07
Speaker 2: like Wang that was just meant to like study aryan
1:06:12
Speaker 2: influence throughout history, and they came back like, you're not
1:06:15
Speaker 2: gonna believe this. We were there for everything.
1:06:18
Speaker 3: There's a fascinating Nazi scientist that was ended up being
1:06:22
Speaker 3: another Operation paper Clip guy. And what he did is
1:06:25
Speaker 3: he went back to the like Reichstag I think it's called,
1:06:28
Speaker 3: which was like this castle the Hitler would be built
1:06:31
Speaker 3: to just chill in. And he had like a satanic laboratory,
1:06:34
Speaker 3: like an inner sanctum where fucking like Gerbels or Hitler,
1:06:40
Speaker 3: whoever would fucking let's meditate on the race soul and
1:06:43
Speaker 3: let's try to reach the ice giants like they believed
1:06:46
Speaker 3: in like fairy tales and shit. Right, but just you know,
1:06:50
Speaker 3: stuff like flying boats talking about flying boats. I mean,
1:06:54
Speaker 3: it's just weird. It's kind of weird. I don't totally
1:06:57
Speaker 3: disbelieve it, but I do think that it gets turned
1:06:59
Speaker 3: into a lot of races fan fiction for sure.
1:07:01
Speaker 2: Sure.
1:07:02
Speaker 3: All right, so if consciousness can affect things at great distances,
1:07:06
Speaker 3: what does that mean for our relationship with beings? Who
1:07:08
Speaker 3: rely on consciousness. It's like doctor John's random number generator
1:07:12
Speaker 3: experiment with surgical precision. The ETS use consciousness assisted technologies,
1:07:16
Speaker 3: the science of consciousness, and all the physics that go
1:07:18
Speaker 3: with it. He's claiming that they got this shit locked
1:07:20
Speaker 3: and dialed in way better than us. We're doing like
1:07:22
Speaker 3: the fucking little toy experiment you get from the hobby
1:07:26
Speaker 3: store with a potato battery, and they're like actually building rocket,
1:07:30
Speaker 3: you know, the flying ships and all this shit.
1:07:33
Speaker 2: Speaking of technologies, I did not realize until I watched
1:07:39
Speaker 2: this documentary that there is a CE five contact app.
1:07:43
Speaker 3: I've I've downloaded this app.
1:07:45
Speaker 2: I am on the verge of it, but it's also
1:07:48
Speaker 2: nine to ninety nine.
1:07:49
Speaker 3: I think I paid for it. Let me see if
1:07:51
Speaker 3: it's still on my phone.
1:07:52
Speaker 2: Yep, there is no free version.
1:07:54
Speaker 3: I got it. I got it. I got it right here.
1:07:56
Speaker 3: It's just a lot of uh guided medicaid meditations.
1:07:59
Speaker 2: I so, so it's like the Calm app, but for
1:08:02
Speaker 2: summoning aliens.
1:08:04
Speaker 3: Basically, I'm seeing here there's a network tab where you
1:08:06
Speaker 3: can kind of I think you.
1:08:08
Speaker 2: Can hardcore into that idea.
1:08:10
Speaker 3: I think you can find like a group we should
1:08:13
Speaker 3: go to one of these things in Joshua tree or something.
1:08:16
Speaker 3: So I think there's like you can find groups in
1:08:18
Speaker 3: your area. And he just he's got like a guide
1:08:22
Speaker 3: which tells you. It's got these sections assembling a team
1:08:25
Speaker 3: things to look for, meditation gathering equipment. We see them
1:08:28
Speaker 3: kind of signaling the craft with high powered lasers at
1:08:31
Speaker 3: certain points. They have an.
1:08:34
Speaker 2: Is what we should do? Yes, go do it ourselves.
1:08:37
Speaker 3: Oh, kind of a crew of ghostbusters. I'm a pretty
1:08:40
Speaker 3: good meditator. I've been meditating for a long time. I
1:08:42
Speaker 3: think I could definitely lead some fucking CE five.
1:08:45
Speaker 2: I'm way into it.
1:08:48
Speaker 3: There's a section called coherent Thoughts, sequencing and finally finding
1:08:52
Speaker 3: a location. That's the guide, and he's got an equipment
1:08:55
Speaker 3: list the library, which looks like meditations tones. Oh he's
1:09:00
Speaker 3: got it looks like a map of meteors and satellites,
1:09:04
Speaker 3: so you can make sure that you're not looking at
1:09:06
Speaker 3: the wrong thing.
1:09:08
Speaker 2: Oh, that makes sense.
1:09:09
Speaker 3: It's kind of thorough, you know, for any resource. This
1:09:13
Speaker 3: section electromagnetic phenomenon. They talked about measuring some of these
1:09:17
Speaker 3: things with like some of them you can see with
1:09:19
Speaker 3: night vision or you can pick up like strange emanations
1:09:22
Speaker 3: from an electromagnetic measuring device and all the way to
1:09:28
Speaker 3: full on visual contact with aliens, like the guy who
1:09:30
Speaker 3: claims to have his healing healed. They actually have a
1:09:33
Speaker 3: couple of fairly decent photos of this weird looking little
1:09:35
Speaker 3: alien dude, and he does look friendly, he looks cute.
1:09:39
Speaker 2: Looks he looks like Casper, he does.
1:09:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks like Casper while he was still alive
1:09:44
Speaker 3: and a weird, fucked up body.
1:09:45
Speaker 2: But not the German rapper.
1:09:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said. His name was Bajeet. And there's this
1:09:49
Speaker 3: guy in the group who claims he's had hearing problems
1:09:51
Speaker 3: hearing it's his whole life. And this alien showed up
1:09:54
Speaker 3: and you could hear again. Yeah, he went back to
1:09:58
Speaker 3: his room. He felt to pull the go back outside.
1:10:00
Speaker 3: He walked outside, this thing showed up and you know,
1:10:03
Speaker 3: never used the hearing aids again, which is something that
1:10:05
Speaker 3: I think takes balls to say in a documentary, like, hey,
1:10:09
Speaker 3: magic happened to me, you know, like I'm ed from Ohio.
1:10:12
Speaker 2: But yeah, and it seems like no doctor has come
1:10:16
Speaker 2: forward and been like, no, well, here's what actually happened, Like.
1:10:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, no one has been like, well, ears spontaneously healed
1:10:23
Speaker 3: themselves all the time.
1:10:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's not wearing hearing aids, so we know
1:10:27
Speaker 2: that part. Unless he was just falsely wearing hearing aids
1:10:31
Speaker 2: his whole life, just building up to that one moment.
1:10:34
Speaker 3: I can't wait. I'm gonna impress doctor Greer so bad.
1:10:37
Speaker 3: He's gonna like me so much.
1:10:38
Speaker 2: That was him in two thousand, crazy and wearing hearing
1:10:42
Speaker 2: aids for twenty years.
1:10:44
Speaker 3: And between all these different mediums of sightings they have,
1:10:47
Speaker 3: there's just like a fucking there's countless videos of these
1:10:49
Speaker 3: things throughout the documentary.
1:10:51
Speaker 2: Countless a lot of video and from all.
1:10:53
Speaker 3: Over the world. I would say, possible to fake, but difficult.
1:10:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, Like if you had the ability
1:11:00
Speaker 2: a fake a video like this, like, is that what
1:11:01
Speaker 2: you would even be doing with your time? Like you're
1:11:04
Speaker 2: just hoping to be footage in a Stephen Greer documentary,
1:11:08
Speaker 2: Like you could just go make movies and shit, like
1:11:10
Speaker 2: I get a job.
1:11:11
Speaker 3: I guess the satisfaction would be getting idiots like me
1:11:14
Speaker 3: to kind of believe in this stuff. You'd be like, yeah,
1:11:16
Speaker 3: my god, they're still buying it. Yeah that if you're
1:11:18
Speaker 3: doing that, good on you. Congratulates weird motivation, Well, you've
1:11:23
Speaker 3: got me to buy a lot of documentaries on Amazon, Like.
1:11:25
Speaker 2: Stephen Greer would kind of almost have to be a
1:11:27
Speaker 2: part of that for that to be Oh, definitely, because
1:11:31
Speaker 2: even one of the videos he shows involves him. You
1:11:34
Speaker 2: have it here in the notes where he meditated on
1:11:38
Speaker 2: the three aspects of CE five yes, which are thought, light,
1:11:43
Speaker 2: and sound. And when he was doing that, all of
1:11:46
Speaker 2: a sudden a crop circle appeared in a field near him, and.
1:11:51
Speaker 3: It was three It's like a circle ninety two. And
1:11:53
Speaker 3: they've got grainy VHS footage of this. Now, did Stephen
1:11:57
Speaker 3: Greer go make a crop circle and then just pan
1:12:00
Speaker 3: camera over? I suppose he could have. I don't I
1:12:04
Speaker 3: don't know why he would do that so that the
1:12:07
Speaker 3: CIA would want to kill him, so that people would
1:12:09
Speaker 3: think he was a kook. You know his Wikipedia article
1:12:12
Speaker 3: Grey Stephen Grew's Wikipedia article. It's like this fake, lying,
1:12:15
Speaker 3: fake fake piece of shid is a fake asshole and
1:12:18
Speaker 3: he's never said the truth ever.
1:12:20
Speaker 2: My only question about like the CIA stuff is like,
1:12:23
Speaker 2: then why does he get to make these documentaries?
1:12:26
Speaker 3: Yeah? Like what to what end?
1:12:27
Speaker 2: You know, Like if the intelligence community in general, he says,
1:12:32
Speaker 2: is so like on his tail. Why does he keep
1:12:35
Speaker 2: getting away with like why hasn't he been assassinated?
1:12:38
Speaker 3: That is interesting. I guess the idea is that you
1:12:41
Speaker 3: want him to do more harm alive, Like you just
1:12:43
Speaker 3: want to sort of make him out to be a
1:12:45
Speaker 3: turd in the punch bowl. And people don't take them seriously, like, oh,
1:12:47
Speaker 3: you believe in aliens like that fucking woo wu guy
1:12:49
Speaker 3: he says they're made a magic Yeah. People that have
1:12:52
Speaker 3: never been on FBI that vault dot gov.
1:12:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that has been the tactic for a
1:12:58
Speaker 2: long long time. Is well, just any conspiracy theory just
1:13:02
Speaker 2: like the phrase alone, that's enough. Like that person's.
1:13:05
Speaker 3: Phrase is almost I would I would almost call it
1:13:07
Speaker 3: a slur.
1:13:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's accurate, especially.
1:13:11
Speaker 3: It was made up by an organization and a position
1:13:14
Speaker 3: of power to discredit under links.
1:13:16
Speaker 2: It's such an effective branding campaign.
1:13:20
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And once you're a conspiracy theory, you're associated.
1:13:23
Speaker 3: You're with Bigfoot, you're with ancient aliens, you're with all
1:13:25
Speaker 3: of it. You're in that category, you're in that section
1:13:28
Speaker 3: of the bookstore.
1:13:29
Speaker 1: You know.
1:13:29
Speaker 3: And where did I always think, like where the fuck
1:13:31
Speaker 3: did New Ideas ever start? Gravity was a goddamn conspiracy theory.
1:13:35
Speaker 3: The fucking Earth being the center of the universe? Was
1:13:39
Speaker 3: was the sun being the center? Was a conspiracy theory?
1:13:42
Speaker 3: You know, Like do we ever think outside the box anymore?
1:13:44
Speaker 3: Like it doesn't seem so Yeah.
1:13:46
Speaker 2: I mean it really at the end of the day,
1:13:48
Speaker 2: if you're one of those I don't believe conspiracy theories,
1:13:52
Speaker 2: like just whole cloth, Well, so that means you just
1:13:56
Speaker 2: like implicitly trust the government.
1:13:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, which that sounds a lotmiliar.
1:14:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that like the American government, the fourth ront. Yeah,
1:14:08
Speaker 2: like you know what we've done, right.
1:14:10
Speaker 3: Well, he goes through a few other notable CE five experiences.
1:14:14
Speaker 3: I think we've described the process enough. You chill out,
1:14:17
Speaker 3: you connect the aliens, you politely ask them to come,
1:14:21
Speaker 3: say what's up, You give them directions. It's it's like
1:14:24
Speaker 3: ordering a prostitute. Really, it's very very much sex worker.
1:14:29
Speaker 3: Excuse me, I'm sorry.
1:14:30
Speaker 2: He does mention at one point that no humans have
1:14:33
Speaker 2: ever been harmed.
1:14:35
Speaker 3: Yes, at one of these events. I mean they've had
1:14:38
Speaker 3: their healing heeled and you know, had experiences where you
1:14:42
Speaker 3: see these people and like, I don't know, it's similar
1:14:45
Speaker 3: to when doctor Gruz started crying I'm just like, I
1:14:47
Speaker 3: buy it, Like I buy that you were moved as
1:14:49
Speaker 3: fuck for some fucking reason. Like there's a video. There's
1:14:52
Speaker 3: a picture they show of like an almost an octopus
1:14:55
Speaker 3: tendril of light going into a guy's chest and they
1:14:58
Speaker 3: interview the guy, and you just go, something happened to
1:15:00
Speaker 3: that guy, you know, like he felt something. I don't
1:15:03
Speaker 3: think that was just a lens flare.
1:15:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, at some point, so many people have done this,
1:15:07
Speaker 2: it's hard to imagine that everyone is lying.
1:15:12
Speaker 3: Yeah. He describes another early session where before he vectored
1:15:15
Speaker 3: the aliens to him, he sent them over his hometown
1:15:19
Speaker 3: and this was actually caught and documented by local air
1:15:23
Speaker 3: traffic controllers talking to pilots, and he actually has the
1:15:25
Speaker 3: audio in the documentary, and insided leaked the tapes. And
1:15:28
Speaker 3: there's a guy who goes, uh, I don't believe in
1:15:31
Speaker 3: flying saucers, but I don't know what fuck this is.
1:15:33
Speaker 3: So he's interesting audio, interesting audio. I guess you could
1:15:37
Speaker 3: have faked it, but he believes that this was the
1:15:39
Speaker 3: alien showing him they could follow very specific instructions, like
1:15:42
Speaker 3: they were really connected to his awareness.
1:15:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of those things where you're right, it
1:15:47
Speaker 2: would be nice if you could just like hit his
1:15:49
Speaker 2: website and get links, yeah, to like kind of verify
1:15:53
Speaker 2: some of these things.
1:15:54
Speaker 3: I put this together kind of short notice. I should.
1:15:57
Speaker 3: I would have liked to gone through and find all
1:15:59
Speaker 3: that and see what I actually could corroborate.
1:16:02
Speaker 2: But there's in any documentary like this, there's so much
1:16:06
Speaker 2: fucking line going out and corroborating each piece is you know,
1:16:12
Speaker 2: a little more work than you should have to do
1:16:14
Speaker 2: as the viewer, And it does sometimes make me a
1:16:18
Speaker 2: little skeptical when I'm watching.
1:16:20
Speaker 3: Me too, where I'm like, is this a really good
1:16:22
Speaker 3: story I'm enjoying? Is this a story it might be told?
1:16:25
Speaker 3: A compelling story.
1:16:27
Speaker 2: There's a series of documentaries out there. The first one
1:16:30
Speaker 2: is called Sir No Face, and it's this documentary filmmaker
1:16:34
Speaker 2: from Santa Monica named Chad Kaylik, and his stuff is
1:16:39
Speaker 2: just such bullshit. And he's the type who will be like, yeah,
1:16:44
Speaker 2: we have evidence of this anyway, moving on, and it's like,
1:16:47
Speaker 2: can we see it? Can we see the evidence?
1:16:50
Speaker 3: No, it's my dead man switch. I can't release it.
1:16:53
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:16:54
Speaker 3: Good times, Good times, Gruce. Is our level of consciousness
1:16:59
Speaker 3: is proportion to our level of technology. That's why our
1:17:01
Speaker 3: technologies are primitive, violent and destructive, just like us. That
1:17:05
Speaker 3: makes sense, does make sense. He talks about Nikola Kardashev
1:17:08
Speaker 3: of the Kardashev scale. It's a scale for measuring the
1:17:10
Speaker 3: development technologically of a civilization. And he says that level
1:17:13
Speaker 3: one civilization's harness us control store all of the energy
1:17:17
Speaker 3: on the planet. This is every volcanic vent in the
1:17:20
Speaker 3: ocean floor, every fucking ray of sunshine. We have that
1:17:24
Speaker 3: much energy. And at that level it kind of implies
1:17:27
Speaker 3: what I'd always like to think of as a post
1:17:29
Speaker 3: scarcity star Trek economy, where jobs are i don't know,
1:17:33
Speaker 3: either optional or something you do for three hours a week,
1:17:36
Speaker 3: and plenty of food. There's no abundance. And he says,
1:17:40
Speaker 3: at this level, grow thinks to civilization focuses on the
1:17:42
Speaker 3: development of consciousness, and conscious breakthroughs are translated directly into
1:17:46
Speaker 3: technological breakthroughs. And I would say that the level of
1:17:49
Speaker 3: human consciousness hasn't evolved much in the last two hundred years.
1:17:54
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't seem like it.
1:17:56
Speaker 3: Warlike jingoistic, you know, eclusive capitalists, ye, greedy.
1:18:02
Speaker 2: I mean, it seems like it's getting worse. If anything.
1:18:05
Speaker 3: I think there are like some hippies and professors in weirdo.
1:18:08
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, there's there's cool people and cooler
1:18:10
Speaker 3: people getting cooler. But I think it's a very small minority.
1:18:15
Speaker 3: And I don't think anyone's going hey, like wake up
1:18:18
Speaker 3: to kindness, fucking no, live beautifully. It's like buy diet coke.
1:18:24
Speaker 3: Fuck this guy Pete Danson.
1:18:27
Speaker 2: Ror not to any real degree, and especially not with
1:18:30
Speaker 2: like politicians and things. There's like there's some progressives out there,
1:18:35
Speaker 2: and I'm interested to see what happens as their career
1:18:39
Speaker 2: goes on and if they, you know, rise to a
1:18:42
Speaker 2: little more prominent.
1:18:43
Speaker 3: Progressive like you're talking like the squad like AOC and them.
1:18:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm I'm honestly curious if if.
1:18:51
Speaker 3: They just get sucked into the machine, you know what
1:18:53
Speaker 3: I mean?
1:18:54
Speaker 2: Yeah that, or do they get assassinated, like yeah, does
1:18:58
Speaker 2: it turn into a oh what QAnon did it? Like
1:19:02
Speaker 2: it was just crazy QAnon people. Definitely not the government.
1:19:05
Speaker 2: I could see something like that transpiring where it gets
1:19:10
Speaker 2: those assassinations. Yeah, but it gets blamed on people like
1:19:14
Speaker 2: thinking like the cabal and it's like, yeah, but where
1:19:18
Speaker 2: did QAnon come from? Like like it didn't. It didn't
1:19:23
Speaker 2: grow out of the ground, like there is a government
1:19:26
Speaker 2: of some sort behind that.
1:19:28
Speaker 3: It takes a lot of juice, you know.
1:19:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's so effective, like it's basically a new religion.
1:19:36
Speaker 3: Now, oh my god, the impact it's had on our
1:19:39
Speaker 3: culture is kind of amazing. And like that you're talking
1:19:42
Speaker 3: about you saw Trump, that's Desanti's flag outside your place,
1:19:46
Speaker 3: and it like, yes, we're making fucking fan fiction flags
1:19:50
Speaker 3: because of this shit.
1:19:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. The that that is the thing I
1:19:56
Speaker 2: genuinely worry about, Like we in this country do not
1:20:01
Speaker 2: treat progressives well. As they start climbing the ladder. I
1:20:06
Speaker 2: think we don't have any use for them. They don't
1:20:08
Speaker 2: make people buy more diet coke. You know, Paul Wellstone
1:20:11
Speaker 2: is someone who I sincerely believe was assassinated, even though
1:20:15
Speaker 2: he died in a plane crash.
1:20:16
Speaker 3: But I pretend I don't know who Paul Wellstone is.
1:20:20
Speaker 2: He was a senator from Minnesota who was one of
1:20:25
Speaker 2: the only people in the Senate who was a vocal
1:20:30
Speaker 2: opponent of the Second War in Iraq and just our
1:20:35
Speaker 2: general you know plans in the Middle East.
1:20:38
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the third wave or the second wave of
1:20:41
Speaker 3: Warner Van Brown's a timeline.
1:20:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and he was, you know, politically active at
1:20:48
Speaker 2: a time when the Senate was like really close to deadlocked,
1:20:52
Speaker 2: and him dying when he did really cleared a lot
1:20:57
Speaker 2: of the opposition that Bush and Cheney would have faced.
1:21:01
Speaker 3: Oh was it coming down to one vote?
1:21:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a lot of it would have come down
1:21:04
Speaker 2: to one vote, and like there was just there was
1:21:07
Speaker 2: no one else besides Paul Wellstone who was really really
1:21:11
Speaker 2: had the courage to speak out against it, because if
1:21:13
Speaker 2: you remember at the time, people were getting like early
1:21:16
Speaker 2: two thousands canceled, yeah for criticizing.
1:21:20
Speaker 3: Anti It was an anti American to do something like that, right,
1:21:23
Speaker 3: you know, wasn't that That was a narrative.
1:21:25
Speaker 2: And the there's a book about his assassination that is
1:21:30
Speaker 2: another one of those that's very very hard to find now,
1:21:34
Speaker 2: but it makes some really compelling arguments that his plane
1:21:39
Speaker 2: was probably downed intentionally.
1:21:42
Speaker 3: The weird part was that after his plane crashed, he
1:21:44
Speaker 3: shot himself in the head twice.
1:21:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like every.
1:21:51
Speaker 3: I really am starting to think that the only reason
1:21:52
Speaker 3: Stephen Greer is alive is because they think, oh, this
1:21:54
Speaker 3: is doing more harm than good. So like his own movement.
1:21:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not, Like, I don't I don't think he's
1:22:00
Speaker 2: having much impact on public opinion.
1:22:03
Speaker 3: He is with his like he goes on the Logan
1:22:05
Speaker 3: Paul Show and stuff, but they're just like they're like,
1:22:06
Speaker 3: what do the aliens look like? They're not really like,
1:22:09
Speaker 3: I don't know, getting the message of oneness and unity.
1:22:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not on like ABC News or anything like that.
1:22:16
Speaker 3: He's on four D with Demi Lovado, a podcast I
1:22:19
Speaker 3: found out exists today that I must become a stride describer.
1:22:23
Speaker 2: Of what is what is four D?
1:22:26
Speaker 3: Well, that would be like the fourth dimension that I'm
1:22:28
Speaker 3: beyond three D.
1:22:29
Speaker 2: So she has like a paranormal.
1:22:31
Speaker 3: Podcast something like that. Like it seems just kind of
1:22:34
Speaker 3: woo woo new age spiritual, which I'm not even using
1:22:37
Speaker 3: as a slurry. I'm into all that shit. I just
1:22:39
Speaker 3: I told you earlier. I'm a student, of course, a
1:22:41
Speaker 3: student of a course of miracles. But I'll just tell
1:22:44
Speaker 3: you a funny story about the four D is Uh.
1:22:47
Speaker 3: When I was when I first got diagnosed with by
1:22:49
Speaker 3: polar disorder, I was in the mental hospital and there
1:22:51
Speaker 3: was a guy in there I've been talking to and
1:22:53
Speaker 3: this guy I won't won't say his name, but he's
1:22:55
Speaker 3: a nice guy. Uh, but he was out there, you know,
1:22:58
Speaker 3: he was fucking out there, as was I the time.
1:23:00
Speaker 3: And we're sitting in the day room watching Family Guy
1:23:03
Speaker 3: like eight o'clock and he goes, uh, hey, can you
1:23:05
Speaker 3: see five D? And I was like no, And he's like,
1:23:10
Speaker 3: ah shit, it's like right over there, can you see it?
1:23:12
Speaker 3: And I was like no. At the time, I was like, fuck,
1:23:15
Speaker 3: that sucks. I want to see five D.
1:23:18
Speaker 2: That would be fun.
1:23:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be fun. I think, uh, you know,
1:23:21
Speaker 3: we can go through this Lost Century stuff, but we're
1:23:24
Speaker 3: getting a little long here.
1:23:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we could probably because the Lost Century
1:23:29
Speaker 2: it's kind of a lot of the things we've been
1:23:31
Speaker 2: talking about, right, It's.
1:23:32
Speaker 3: A lot of patents getting squashed. It's people getting labeled
1:23:35
Speaker 3: with what he calls crazy inventor syndrome, where they make
1:23:38
Speaker 3: them out to be a kook and they never want
1:23:40
Speaker 3: to fucking make their He's trying to get these people
1:23:43
Speaker 3: to make their patents public or make their inventions public,
1:23:45
Speaker 3: but they're like, no, I'm going to be rich, and
1:23:47
Speaker 3: they all die before they're going to be rich. Spoiler alert.
1:23:49
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of these different cases. It's a
1:23:51
Speaker 3: very interesting documentary. It's and similar to when you see
1:23:54
Speaker 3: the preponderance of CE five footage from all these events
1:23:56
Speaker 3: all around the world, when you see just this deluge
1:23:59
Speaker 3: of like people that like, you know, newspaper articles about
1:24:02
Speaker 3: fucking toroids that produce thousands of killo wats with no
1:24:05
Speaker 3: power and a light bulb that you put in nine
1:24:07
Speaker 3: kilo watch and you get out one hundred kilowats and
1:24:09
Speaker 3: a car that runs on water and something you hook
1:24:11
Speaker 3: up to your cabin air filter and your fucking CRV
1:24:13
Speaker 3: that gives it forty four miles per gallon better. It's
1:24:17
Speaker 3: it's all you're like, Okay, one of these fuckers had
1:24:19
Speaker 3: to have something that worked, like one of these fucking
1:24:21
Speaker 3: crackpot devices actually did something. And yeah, absolutely, they argue
1:24:27
Speaker 3: that it's an anti free market, you know. He says
1:24:30
Speaker 3: that there's one hundred years goes in site some of
1:24:33
Speaker 3: these like government docs and inventions and stuff to date
1:24:37
Speaker 3: back to like before nineteen twenty. So he argues that
1:24:40
Speaker 3: it's been over one hundred years of technology that's been
1:24:43
Speaker 3: lost or innovation that we've essentially been cheated out of
1:24:46
Speaker 3: as a public.
1:24:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it I mean they're right that it's that
1:24:51
Speaker 2: kind of goes against the idea of the free market,
1:24:53
Speaker 2: but also that's the free market at work, Like, yeah,
1:24:57
Speaker 2: the free market's not gonna embrace something that they can't
1:25:00
Speaker 2: make money.
1:25:02
Speaker 3: No, everybody except you wants it to fail, you know exactly.
1:25:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be that would be a very alienating
1:25:09
Speaker 2: position to be in.
1:25:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank god I never invented free energy. I don't
1:25:14
Speaker 3: want I don't want to be killed by the men
1:25:16
Speaker 3: in black.
1:25:17
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, no, shit, I would love.
1:25:19
Speaker 3: To see the fucking Indiana Jones warehouse where all this
1:25:21
Speaker 3: stuff is. And he's like, oh, here's the hoverboard that
1:25:24
Speaker 3: you're never going to ride.
1:25:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, Harry Reid kind of implies that that warehouse exists.
1:25:29
Speaker 3: Harry Reid is weirdly lit with this shit, isn't he.
1:25:32
Speaker 3: That's right.
1:25:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's way tied in to all of this stuff.
1:25:36
Speaker 3: I guess, Senator from the ved. I mean, he'd have
1:25:38
Speaker 3: to know about Area fifty one adjacent maybe on some level.
1:25:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was when the first UFO videos started coming
1:25:46
Speaker 2: out in twenty seventeen, that first wave of Navy videos.
1:25:51
Speaker 2: In that New York Times article which this documentary basically
1:25:54
Speaker 2: implies the New York Times is a wing of the CIA,
1:25:58
Speaker 2: and like.
1:25:59
Speaker 3: No, yeah, it's not hard to do.
1:26:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, no way. And Harry Reid is all over that
1:26:06
Speaker 2: article and at one point he talks about there being
1:26:09
Speaker 2: this facility where a bunch of stuff is stored, and
1:26:12
Speaker 2: he says something along the lines of if anyone tells
1:26:16
Speaker 2: you that we know where the things in that facility
1:26:19
Speaker 2: came from, they are lying to you.
1:26:22
Speaker 3: Oh interesting. I think always of Tesla because he's he's
1:26:26
Speaker 3: a guy that I think we've all kind of accepted
1:26:28
Speaker 3: new more than anyone has ever known about this, Like
1:26:32
Speaker 3: he was just kind of tapped into this the source
1:26:34
Speaker 3: or on some level. And he had this over unity system.
1:26:38
Speaker 3: An overunity system that's the idea that you get more
1:26:40
Speaker 3: energy out of something than you put in. Free energy
1:26:43
Speaker 3: devices suggests there's a limitless supply of viusable energy always
1:26:46
Speaker 3: coming into reality because in empty space, these tiny particles
1:26:49
Speaker 3: phasing in and out of existence, and in that is
1:26:52
Speaker 3: a source of energy. And it was a giant power
1:26:55
Speaker 3: that he supposedly had in resonance with the whole earth.
1:26:59
Speaker 3: And he said that anywhere you were on Earth you
1:27:00
Speaker 3: could draw energy from this tower. It was you could
1:27:03
Speaker 3: tap into it, and he brought it to JP Morgan,
1:27:06
Speaker 3: who was immediately, oh, thank you so much. I'm gonna
1:27:08
Speaker 3: fucking shut this down right now. Yeah, And when he died,
1:27:12
Speaker 3: all of his papers were confiscated by the manager of
1:27:14
Speaker 3: the hotel on some government spooks. So you have to wonder.
1:27:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've heard that that version of the Tesla
1:27:21
Speaker 2: story a bunch.
1:27:23
Speaker 3: Is there another one?
1:27:25
Speaker 2: No, I just like, that's just a thing I know
1:27:29
Speaker 2: about Tesla, that he had these ideas that well, he said.
1:27:33
Speaker 3: He could make a death ray that would fucking it's
1:27:35
Speaker 3: range would be limited only by the curvature of the Earth,
1:27:38
Speaker 3: you know, like shit like that.
1:27:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nuts, And I believe him.
1:27:42
Speaker 3: No, he was. Also he was. I believe he was.
1:27:44
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, he was married to a pigeon, and
1:27:46
Speaker 3: I believe him. Yeah he was a pigeon. Not technically,
1:27:51
Speaker 3: but you know what I mean, on the comedic level.
1:27:54
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, yeah, I mean it stands to reason that
1:27:59
Speaker 2: there have to be other energy sources out there than
1:28:02
Speaker 2: fucking coal. Well, even like.
1:28:04
Speaker 3: I've always since I was in like high school, I've
1:28:06
Speaker 3: been like, why don't we use more nuclear energy? Just
1:28:08
Speaker 3: fucking pick a spot in Arizona and put the toxic
1:28:12
Speaker 3: waste there and it's practically free. Like it's kind of incredible. Uh.
1:28:15
Speaker 3: And we even shut all that shit down. That shit
1:28:18
Speaker 3: was too fucking harmful to coal and fucking and the
1:28:22
Speaker 3: shale in fracking and crude oil and all of it. Yeah,
1:28:26
Speaker 3: I mean, I hasn't been a new nuclear reactor in
1:28:28
Speaker 3: this country since like nineteen seventy, Yeah, which is crazy.
1:28:30
Speaker 3: Homer Simpson is working on ancient equipment.
1:28:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you look up our biggest nuclear disaster in
1:28:38
Speaker 2: this country, three Mile Island. Also Hooter's Best wings sauce
1:28:43
Speaker 2: right a million miles?
1:28:45
Speaker 3: Is that really a Hooter's wing sauce?
1:28:47
Speaker 2: It sure is that fucking ribs.
1:28:49
Speaker 3: That's like the nine to eleven potato wedges, like.
1:28:52
Speaker 2: Well they did also for a long time. Still after
1:28:56
Speaker 2: nine to eleven they had nine to one one wings.
1:29:00
Speaker 2: And I feel like this, I feel like the Unpopular
1:29:03
Speaker 2: Opinion Podcast might have played a role in those going away,
1:29:07
Speaker 2: because we made a big deal out of how fun
1:29:09
Speaker 2: it was to go to Hooters and order the nine
1:29:12
Speaker 2: to one to one wings but call them nine to
1:29:14
Speaker 2: eleven wings.
1:29:14
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's very very fun.
1:29:17
Speaker 2: And see if your your waitress by the end starts
1:29:21
Speaker 2: also calling them nine to eleven wings, and if she does,
1:29:24
Speaker 2: you win.
1:29:25
Speaker 3: I went to Ireland and I'm in Dublin looking at
1:29:27
Speaker 3: like the memorial of the of the car bombings with
1:29:29
Speaker 3: the IRA and all that fucking the troubles or whatever,
1:29:32
Speaker 3: and I'm like, we have a drink named after them,
1:29:35
Speaker 3: like flowers in the ground. The woman crying, did you
1:29:39
Speaker 3: see the murals? H Oh no, I don't think so are.
1:29:43
Speaker 2: Those I think those are in northern I did.
1:29:45
Speaker 3: Go to Northern Ireland, Ireland. Yeah, those intents boot liquors
1:29:50
Speaker 3: very intense.
1:29:51
Speaker 2: So yeah, what else do we have?
1:29:55
Speaker 3: Do we have anything else we can go through some
1:29:58
Speaker 3: of these free energy cases? Is uh? But I don't know.
1:30:03
Speaker 3: I think we're good.
1:30:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think we did it. Like, yeah,
1:30:07
Speaker 2: I guess my thoughts on Stephen Greer like I want
1:30:11
Speaker 2: I want to believe he has his heart in the
1:30:14
Speaker 2: right place. Yeah, but I also kind of feel like
1:30:18
Speaker 2: there's room in this for a version of events where
1:30:22
Speaker 2: everyone is the government, including Oh yeah.
1:30:24
Speaker 3: Step That's That's what I worry about the most, because
1:30:28
Speaker 3: this is that Stephen Greer is the guy designed to
1:30:30
Speaker 3: keep the people actually asking questions. Oh okay, like you
1:30:33
Speaker 3: to keep us with give us a little toy to playcados.
1:30:36
Speaker 2: Right, and all it's gonna take is him doing like
1:30:40
Speaker 2: one of those CE five things where an alien shows
1:30:43
Speaker 2: up and like smacks the shit out of somebody, and
1:30:45
Speaker 2: then he's gonna be like, well, I'm wrong, They're right,
1:30:49
Speaker 2: all these aliens are a problem.
1:30:50
Speaker 3: Or what if he's like, hey, uh Cia, Yeah, the
1:30:54
Speaker 3: guys in Brazil, we've been meditating for about twenty five minutes,
1:30:56
Speaker 3: so you got a five minute warning to do this
1:30:58
Speaker 3: like a maneuver. Yeah, and keep these fucking hippies, you know,
1:31:02
Speaker 3: in the dark. Yeah. I would say, like I said
1:31:05
Speaker 3: I said to you overtext them. I'm about eighty five
1:31:07
Speaker 3: percent ninety percent in, which is a very high percentage
1:31:11
Speaker 3: for me to be in on a conspiracy theory. I
1:31:13
Speaker 3: don't even even as an Elvis truther. I think I
1:31:16
Speaker 3: topped out at eighty percent. Yeah, believing Elvis is still
1:31:19
Speaker 3: alive something that's really confirmable and concrete.
1:31:23
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, did you say one hundred and eighty percent?
1:31:26
Speaker 2: Because That's where I'm at. Not necessarily be still being alive, yes,
1:31:32
Speaker 2: but he necessarily died.
1:31:35
Speaker 3: There's also work with the Dea.
1:31:37
Speaker 2: There's also a very hard to find book about that
1:31:39
Speaker 2: out there. Fuck about Elvis's.
1:31:42
Speaker 3: I've become a big band book collector. We got this
1:31:45
Speaker 3: is all good stuff to know. I got a copy
1:31:47
Speaker 3: of Woody Allen's Without Feathers in my bathroom.
1:31:49
Speaker 2: Really yeah, yeah, I have. One of the things I
1:31:56
Speaker 2: bought for the Banded Media Report series that I never
1:31:59
Speaker 2: got into is a book called The River, a Journey
1:32:03
Speaker 2: to the Origin of aids. Ooh, and it is one
1:32:08
Speaker 2: of the problems.
1:32:09
Speaker 3: It's like a biography of the monkey that bit the guy.
1:32:11
Speaker 2: It's like eight hundred pages long.
1:32:13
Speaker 3: Oh fuck, very long, and so you might have to
1:32:16
Speaker 3: waste the whole week to find out it sucks.
1:32:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. It's an interesting book. It got a lot
1:32:22
Speaker 2: of attention and acclaim at first, and then people took
1:32:26
Speaker 2: issue with like one detail the guy got wrong, and
1:32:30
Speaker 2: Rolling Stone magazine came out and was like, ah, we
1:32:32
Speaker 2: shouldn't have given this any attention. I'm sorry, and people
1:32:36
Speaker 2: gave up on the idea.
1:32:37
Speaker 3: On the kind of band. I don't know if these
1:32:39
Speaker 3: books are really banned. They're just sort of laughable, I suppose,
1:32:42
Speaker 3: or laughed at. But uh, just about everything that Doctor
1:32:45
Speaker 3: grew says also lines up with channeled texts from the seventies.
1:32:50
Speaker 3: The Seth material by Jane Roberts. Oh yeah, the Law
1:32:54
Speaker 3: of One of channeled by Raw and that was I know,
1:32:58
Speaker 3: I don't know as much about the Seth MI shield,
1:32:59
Speaker 3: but I know the Love of One was channeled under
1:33:02
Speaker 3: like I guess we can might call laboratory or university conditions.
1:33:05
Speaker 3: And I think Seth material was too.
1:33:08
Speaker 2: I think we covered Seth on pretty scary.
1:33:11
Speaker 3: Yes, Seth is interesting Raw, it's interesting. Course of Miracles
1:33:14
Speaker 3: two is you know, reflects a lot of this ship
1:33:18
Speaker 3: that uh Greer talks about. So there's a weird corroboration
1:33:23
Speaker 3: from you know, like I said, those channeled books. That
1:33:25
Speaker 3: is very woo woo and spiritual and odd.
1:33:28
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we'll have to cover all that shit.
1:33:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would love to do a fucking do a
1:33:33
Speaker 3: do a Raw episode or a Love of One episode,
1:33:36
Speaker 3: even a Course of Miracle episode. Of Course of Miracles
1:33:38
Speaker 3: is fucking weird.
1:33:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know anything about that. I would definitely
1:33:41
Speaker 2: cover that on a pod.
1:33:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, cool, cool man, But uh yeah.
1:33:45
Speaker 2: We should probably wrap it up. We're pushing two hours here.
1:33:49
Speaker 2: Connor thank you so much.
1:33:51
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. I gotta plug something. My
1:33:52
Speaker 3: comedy special Live and Tu soon is dropping on my
1:33:55
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1:34:00
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1:34:03
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1:34:06
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1:34:09
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1:34:11
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1:34:14
Speaker 3: Check it out. All the Conspiracy the Show heads that
1:34:17
Speaker 3: have been dming me weird shit over the years. I
1:34:19
Speaker 3: love you and that comes out when that's out August first. Sorry,
1:34:23
Speaker 3: very nice.
1:34:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking forward to that, thanks too. I don't
1:34:27
Speaker 2: really have it. There's so much going on with the network.
1:34:30
Speaker 2: I don't It seems like Conspiracy the Show is the
1:34:33
Speaker 2: only thing that hasn't really changed that much, but lots
1:34:36
Speaker 2: of things in flux up in the air with the network,
1:34:39
Speaker 2: So I don't really have anything to plug right now.
1:34:42
Speaker 2: If I do, I'll drop an ad in for it
1:34:44
Speaker 2: or something. Let's get the fuck out of here, Connor.
1:34:47
Speaker 3: Say goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, everybody.
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