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Greer and Loathing: The Great Ultimatum · Journey to the Fringe

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From the unexplained to the mundane, come join
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us on a journey to the fringe. Hello and welcome
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to Journey to the Fringe, where I am predicting
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the future, only in that I'm pretty sure Chelsea's
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doing a part two of the Richard Doty slash Stephen
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Greer episode. I call it that because we're growing
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fond of it. doty richard doty is yeah it's true
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you can't fault the man ah we're back unfortunately
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steven grier part two i'm sorry to do this to
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you guys but you're here we want you here these
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are all my opinions you have to be we did make
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it clear early on yeah yeah all our opinion Taylor
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will keep me on track. So the last episode will
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naturally lead into probably what I found to
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be the best career update. Maybe. Is he retiring?
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No, I know that would be the ultimate best one.
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Are you sitting down? I hope you are. We've been
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recording. I am sitting down. I might be giving
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you guys too much information, but I generally
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record the podcast sitting down. Collecting his
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blood and pee. For my own reasons. It's for the
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house you're building, of course. Oh, it's been
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a long night, you guys. Okay. I like how it makes
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it seem like we have running jokes when really
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we're just recording plots. Our memory's not
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that long. Sometimes there are running jokes.
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But it's hard to tell which is which sometimes.
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Now you know our secret. And that's what you
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get for staying. Okay, so here's the best one,
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I think. I don't know. I think the best one was
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probably Richard Doty so far. But this episode
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just started, I think. I don't know. Where am
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I? Rear gives a 60 -day ultimatum to the U .S.
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government. That's the next update. He sends
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this four -page letter, I guess, to Trump, maybe.
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He posts it on LinkedIn. And on his website,
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he addresses it to Trump. Is Trump on LinkedIn
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a lot? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know
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what's going on. He sends it to a whole page
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worth of Trump's cronies, I guess. I was going
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to summarize this, but fuck it. Let's just read
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the fucker. June 29, 2026. Two. I don't want
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to read all of this. President Donald J. Trump.
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JD Vance, who doesn't need to be read the Honorable
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JD Vance. No, thank you. Mark Rubio, Pete Hegsa,
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Todd Blanche, Sean Duffy. I hate myself for reading
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all of these names. Chuck Schumer, I don't know.
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Tom Cotton, Mike Rounds. Oh, just anybody. Yeah,
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no, like literally. I'm skipping people. Rick
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Crawford, Chairman, House Permanent Select Committee
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on Intelligence. Raja Krishnamurti. Tim Burchette.
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Lauren, it's everybody. It's everybody. There's
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like hundreds of people here. From Stephen M.
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Greer, MD, director of the Disclosure Project.
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Regarding planned release of further UAP UFO
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evidence. Here we go. The Disclosure Project
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is in the process of soliciting and anticipate
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we may receive dispositive evidence and proof
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regarding UAPs, UFOs, extraterrestrial intelligence,
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and covert programs related to them. We can prove
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that the legal constitutional government of the
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United States has been subverted by various agencies
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and corporations for decades and that these activities
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include large embezzlement of funds, treason,
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murder, kidnappings and abductions, human and
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child trafficking, or other crimes both in the
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United States and abroad. We have debriefed over
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800 whistleblowers over the past 35 years and
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have documented these crimes. Evidence of these
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criminal activities have been handed over to
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a confidential task force of the redacted. over
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the last three years these files and cases have
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also been provided to key members of congress
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including senate intelligence committee senate
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armed services and house oversight committee
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members as well as key white house and presidential
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advisors such as stephen miller it has been our
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conclusion since the mid -1990s see attached
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letter What attached letter? That the various
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compartmented operations within government and
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within corporate contractors for the US government
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have been run completely illegally and therefore
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have forfeited all national security law protections.
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Of course, he always talks about that. Since
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these programs themselves are illegal and unconstitutional,
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they cannot cite the National Security Act or
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any laws of the United States to further protect
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and hide evidence, information, documents or
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material. I think material is spelled wrong.
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Did he really just use our excuse and our opinion?
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Yeah. He spelt material wrong, definitely. Material,
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I think. Well, yeah, he had to get this out there
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to start that 60 days. I don't blame him. Speaking,
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I'm just picturing him. Typing furiously. As
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fast as possible. This became quite clear to
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me in December of 1993 when the director of the
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CIA under President Bill Clinton assured me in
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person that neither he nor the president had
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access to these projects and in fact had been
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actively denied access. He's still bringing that
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up. Of course he is. But it's evolving now. This
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was subsequently confirmed to be the case with
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senior members of Congress, the chair of the
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Oversight Committee, Dan Burton, members of the
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Senate Intelligence Committee, such as Richard
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Bryan of Nevada, and other members of Congress.
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Furthermore, The director of the Defense Intelligence
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Agency, three -star General Patrick Hughes, and
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the head of intelligence, J2, for the Joint Chiefs
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of Staff, Admiral Tom Wilson, were also denied
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access and threatened because they inquired into
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the subject. I can't believe it. I know. The
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list of senior officials in government from the
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president on down who have been denied access,
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threatened, or otherwise blocked from any access
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access to these projects is extensive. This proves
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the illegal and unconstitutional nature of the
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programs related to UAP UFO research and technology.
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We have learned there are legitimate legal top
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secret operations attached to these illegal projects
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that are hidden within the legal ones. Any inadvertent
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release of legal top secret compartmented national
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security projects or information is the liability
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of those criminally responsible for commingling
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the criminal projects with the legal ones. We
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assume no liability for this trickery or this
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technique that has been used to hide illegal
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projects within legal operations. Our position.
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Who is our position? I think it's the disclosure
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project. Okay, because he literally just said
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this is from Stephen Greer. Yeah. And now he's
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referring to himself as a whole. I actually remember
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that about his writing. Like, it's not very,
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like, good when he actually has to write things
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down. Well, there are spelling errors and stuff
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in here. Yeah. Our position is that the very
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use of that technique to hide a criminal enterprise
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renders all attached projects liable for disclosure
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in criminal prosecution, and those who are disclosing
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that information have no legal liability whatsoever.
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All liability rests with the offending criminal
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project for jeopardizing legitimate national
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security secrets of legal projects by using this
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trickery. Therefore, unless otherwise directed
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within 60 days from the date of this letter,
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we shall proceed to solicit further hard evidence
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and release it publicly. And we are immunized
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from any persecution under national security
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laws or violations. This letter legally protects
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him. Explicit letter must be received by me.
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That's how it works, right? The loss? You gotta
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love that this is his legal observation for releasing
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the most important document ever and he couldn't
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even proofread it. Probably not important. An
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explicit letter must be received by me no later
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than August 29, 2026 in writing from an authorized
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official in the U .S. government that contradicts
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this assessment. I wonder if they could just
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say it contradicts. Yeah. Are they just going
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to say no? Or leave us alone. Yeah. If they contradict
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this assessment, we will challenge it, since
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we can prove these programs are being run criminally.
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In order to protect the constitutional government
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of the United States, this information must be
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disclosed to the public fully and truthfully,
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including the existence of man -made UAPs based
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on reversed engineering extraterrestrial vehicles.
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These man -made craft have been and are being
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used in a wide range of domestic and international
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criminal operations, including drug running,
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human trafficking, arms trade, and other criminal
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behavior. For this reason, while we agree that
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the schematics and operating plans for these
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crafts should not be disclosed... Wait, why?
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That's not fair. Their existence must be. And
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their use in criminal activities has resulted
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in their forfeiting any protections under the
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national security law. Except for that one specific
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part where I don't get the schematics. That's
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bullshit. our classification system we have been
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advised by constitutional attorneys over the
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years that this assessment and interpretation
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of the law and the constitution is correct we
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have been in contact with covert operatives working
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under non -official cover noc he calls him a
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knock Who possesses dispositive... Now I know
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what he's talking about when he was saying knock
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in some of his interviews. I didn't know what
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he was talking about. Who possesses dispositive
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evidence of biologicals, extraterrestrial bodies...
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pulse weapons that have targeted these craft
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and the existence of man -made UFOs that are
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and have been used in criminal enterprises. We
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will be asking these contacts to provide to us
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all evidence they possess and we will release
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it to the public without redactions except technical
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information that could lead to the creation of
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an operating man -made craft. He's really worried
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about people getting this UFO technology. So,
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as a result, he'll be asking for the evidence?
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Like, he... He kind of lost the plot there, didn't
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he? Like, I thought he has this and he's going
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to release it. That's what I thought, too. Maybe
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I wasn't listening because it was Stephen Carew.
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Since neither the Congress nor the Office of
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the President nor the Pentagon have to date released
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any substantive evidence and instead have made
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a mockery of disclosure with the UAP Science
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Advisory Council with redacted and others and
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redacted on the National Security Council staff,
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we feel we must proceed with this plan unilaterally
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in the interest of the nation. recommending that
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contacts in other countries also release herd
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evidence since the united states has failed to
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act in a meaningful way over the past last 35
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years the past last 35 years sorry i just past
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last 35 years of the Disclosure Project's effort.
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All such evidence will not be subject to review
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by Defense Office of Pre -Publication and Security
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Review, DOPSR, since the evidence in question
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is part of an ongoing transnational criminal
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organization that is currently being investigated
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by the redacted Under Racketeer Influenced and
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Corrupt Organizations Act RICO statutes. This
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is to be yelled. It's all in caps. All projects
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and operations governmental and private associated
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with the UAP UFO issue have been run illegally
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and unconstitutionally since the mid to late
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1950s. Since it is an ongoing criminal conspiracy,
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there is no statute of limitation and all evidence
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and information related to these projects can
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and will be released unless we are otherwise
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directed explicitly in writing. if we do not
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hear from you by august 29 2026 we will proceed
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with these plans sincerely dr steven i do really
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love that this is a week after this episode comes
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out director the disclosure program redacted
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my favorite part is his own redactions in this
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letter like this is his letter he redacted parts
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of it it clearly shows that somebody edited or
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at least read through and had to redact Or he
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did it himself. I don't fucking know. Yeah, I
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know. I can't imagine anyone else had a part
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in that because they missed his spelling errors.
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But, like, in theory, you wrote something and
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you had to redact it, so you technically should
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be, like, editing through, but that's not what
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happened. Oh, my God. I hate this man. That is
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great. Isn't it? He's vigorously typing that
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with two fingers, one from each hand. Oh, yeah.
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I... It doesn't seem... Like, I want to say professional,
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like a professional letter. And then he's calling
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for other releases from other countries, yet
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he's only like CC'd in, like the whole US government.
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Yeah. I'm pretty sure I actually didn't look
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at it. I think it's just big names that he knew
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he could attach to it. Yeah. Yeah, it's wonderful.
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It's not going to go anywhere. Like, it's weird
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how... how unserious he seems when you read anything
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from him but he takes himself so seriously i
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know so you think like he would never post something
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like this i don't know put together with macaroni
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and glue yeah that's almost what it seems like
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right uh he's a weird entity he seems to be and
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he talks about it in one of these interviews
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that he's Out of all the UFO people you see out
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there, like, that are, like, you know, in the
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limelight, let's take, like, George Knapp, for
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instance. George Knapp, Jeremy Corbell, those
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people you see out there, he sees himself as
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apart from them. And he considers himself blacklisted.
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And so he... He considers himself a very serious
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person, too. Yeah, he does. And I just think
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that he considers himself higher than himself.
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And he has this whole different audience. It's
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super weird. So I think that he honestly thinks
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he can say whatever. And it just keeps going
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somehow. And it does for him. Yeah. If I'm making
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sense. No, I know exactly kind of where you're
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at with that too. And it's like the same thing.
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basically over this time like yeah that letter
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was him playing the hits like that's all it was
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yeah and you know he's doing the same just putting
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a new spin on it now as we saw in the last episode
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with you know he just kind of threw out there
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the time travelers from the future with Rendlesham
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Forest. But we've seen a little bit of the new
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stuff that he was talking about in the previous
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one. The next thing he's working on is this letter.
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So we'll definitely keep an eye on that for you
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guys. I mean, we don't want too much Stephen
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Greer content all at once. And the letter comes
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like, in theory, we'll have a response. sometime
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around when this episode comes out. I don't think
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it's unfortunate that there could be a very recent
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update, but I feel like this is one of those
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things where it's just going to like get forgotten
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about. Yeah, I don't think there's going to be
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a response. And if there's not a response, it'll
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be interesting to see. He might just forget about
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it, as you've seen with other stuff. And these
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people don't seem to really follow up with it
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anyway. No, and that's exactly like him. Him
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and Alex Jones are almost on like the same level
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where they think they're very. serious people
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and like if you look into them they're jokes
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but like they just seem to lose threads but the
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audience doesn't seem to care yeah it takes that
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certain kind of audience i think and if you just
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stick to the hits you stick to the they don't
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want you to know i think you get a pretty captivated
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loyal audience yeah the only difference is between
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the two really is he pretends to be about love
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and like peace and all that while selling the
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terrifying things as opposed to alex jones just
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being about like murder and gore yeah he talks
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about prey he's seen god a lot yeah he tells
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him what time it is that's what i was looking
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for So next up. I just want to touch a little
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bit more on One of the new things that he's talking
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about, we kind of tiptoed around it and through
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it. I just want to look into it a little bit
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more. So Stephen Greer says robotic and biological
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alien replicas were used in human abduction operations.
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This is taken from a very long and loaded interview
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where he starts out by pointing out. They're
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talking all about the new Steven Spielberg movie.
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Oh, that's all anybody's going to be talking
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about because all these guys. watch movies and
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then talk about them as if they're real i hated
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every second of this i really did doing the research
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for this episode um so for they talk about the
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new movie they talk about everything that Steven
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Spielberg did wrong in his new movie and basically
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only Steven Greer and his CE5 groups know the
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real ETs and no one else in the community has
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any idea. Kind of like what I was just talking
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about. Like, he's the one with the information.
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He's the blacklisted one because he has all the
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actual information and nobody else in the community
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does. He's the serious individual, yeah. Yeah.
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Like, you know how... Um, like people in the
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community play off each other. I just love the
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people who don't play nice with other people
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in the community because like, it's just this
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type of thing where you can play so easily off
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other people, but it's all just ad living. Yeah.
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The yes. And, and like, he's like, no, we need
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to do it this way. And if it's not, we're enemies.
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everyone else is wrong i hate everyone else listen
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to me i have it's just like cory good with his
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copywriting the blue avians like yeah why the
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fuck would you do just you know it doesn't make
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sense to me anyhow it's interesting the position
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he he's placed himself in um it's just like only
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i know the real truth and everyone else in the
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community has no idea he he's the one that founded
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the disclosure idea and now it's hijacked by
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charlatans spreading myths like david gruch um
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and oh my god during this interview everybody
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is mispronouncing everybody's names i just thought
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it was so funny they were like mixing up first
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oh it was so funny even the interviewers were
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doing it um And he wishes he could have copyrighted
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Disclosure like Corey Goode with Blue Avians.
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He didn't say the Blue Avian thing, but he did
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say he wishes that he copyrighted Disclosure.
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Which I thought was a funny thing. Oh, he seems
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like he would in a second. Yeah, I know. And
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he seems to be running with this new information
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now of the reverse engineered alien tech for
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trafficking. This is like... Other than his letter
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and the other stuff that he's on, like, this
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is the new thing. Oh, it's perfect for where
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our politics are at. Yes. Like, it is perfect.
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It is. That's what, like, it's been so much about
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catching the child sex traffickers for so long
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that, like, why not just add that to this? It
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has to be where he got a spark of inspiration
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because he says it's been happening for a long
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time, but... He must think that his followers
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don't listen to him because even I know this
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is new for him. When we covered it, he wasn't
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talking about stuff like this. And it has to
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be that. It's just like a search engine optimization
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thing. Yeah, he just, I think he might say like,
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what are people who visit my website also going
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to from there? Exactly. And so I think he's just
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grabbing a keyword and saying what. can i do
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with this and he says i've been talking about
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this forever he's not been talking about this
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forever this is a totally new theory for him
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so in this interview he oh my god it's like 17
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hours long just kidding but it feels like it
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he even says that he's working with members of
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congress that have been told not to talk about
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the reverse engineered alien technology that
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is being run in these underground trafficking
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rings So apparently all of the Congress is in
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on this. And if they talk about it to anyone
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other than Stephen Greer, their lives are in
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danger. Of course. Even he's saying David Grush,
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everybody tommed along. All these people. I do
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love how much he hates Tom DeLonge and their
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group. He hates all of them. And he's saying
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they're all the ones that are in on this like
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trafficking kind of reality because they're trying
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to hide it. So there he calls it catastrophic
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disclosure because all these people who are disclosing
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it, it's essentially who these people who are
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working. with this reverse engineered technology,
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the alien hybrids and stuff. Basically, they're
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controlling what's being disclosed so that this
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trafficking ring doesn't get disclosed. And so
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they're handpicking the UFO people to say the
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fake disclosure. But only Stephen Greer knows
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the truth. So all these other people are on the
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other side. And he's the only one smart enough
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to work through it all, of course. Yeah. So Stephen
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Greer is blacklisted because of this, because
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anyone can only talk to Stephen Greer about it
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that knows anything. But he's blacklisted. So
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Grouch, Elizondo, Bob Bigelow, they're all telling
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Congress and the president not to talk about.
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disclosure and these guys are all a part of that
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criminal organization cover -up that i was talking
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about because they've hijacked disclosure so
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what he gets into is that there has been an alien
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threat narrative being pushed but behind the
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curtain it is humans they're pushing to unite
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the world in a fascistic fear -based unity to
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convince people to have them fight them Apparently
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since 1953. So that's the reality we're currently
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living in. You would agree with that, right,
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Taylor? Of course. Yeah, yeah. That does sound
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like the state of the world. Without question.
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Yeah. He just pegged it so well from all the
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insider information he's got. So I'm going to
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again share my screen. Let me just cue this.
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I've watched so much and this is so annoying.
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Just because I've watched this. I can't get into
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too much detail on this because I'm embedded
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in the process. Why is he so sweaty? He's getting
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uglier. RICO is Racketeering Influenced Corrupt
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Organizations law that was passed in 1970 to
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take down the mafia. That is going forward very
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quickly. So the people who are in collusion with
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this treasonous operation are also been handed
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over. And this would include... a large number
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of people in the public ufo arena who are actually
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on the payroll or doing the work of this uh criminal
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organization now the reason i call it a criminal
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organization okay enough of this for right now
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don't worry we'll go back i just want to make
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a few comments there i do like that they're either
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on the payroll or just doing the bidding for
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free so like you can't prove anything because
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like even if you checked like their finances
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you wouldn't know because they're doing it for
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free yeah but the second is is he's clearly like
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whenever you're presenting from home or wherever
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when you're on a show like that you have your
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backdrop and it's very specifically picked out
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And generally people put it like in front of
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a bookcase and they have their very specific
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books behind him. And he picked like a fireplace
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mantle with like a weird statue of a kid with
27:12
a cat. And he's very sweaty. You know what my
27:19
favorite thing about, well, it's not my favorite
27:21
clip. I watched this whole interview. And first
27:24
of all, man, does this woman just like kiss his
27:28
ass the whole time. That's the only way you get
27:31
him. It's the game you play. It's true. And this
27:37
is fucking delusional. And not only just this
27:41
clip, this whole interview is delusional. Everything
27:44
that I just told you is delusional. And you know
27:47
why? Because if everyone in the government is
27:49
in on this, why is he turning shit over to the
27:53
government? He interviewed Richard Doty in the
27:56
last episode. Remember that last episode? He
27:59
interviewed Richard Doty and Richard Doty was
28:01
the one that was like, I'm in the government.
28:04
I know things. All these other people don't know
28:09
anything because I, Richard Doty, am in the government.
28:13
Richard Doty's also in the government. he's just
28:17
so out to lunch. Like he only takes people who
28:21
will say what he wants them to say. It doesn't
28:24
matter if you're Richard Doty or not, but Richard
28:27
Doty is also in the government and he's talking
28:29
about it. Like all of these people are in, in
28:32
this trafficking ring. Like it's just, doesn't
28:36
he know about Richard Doty? Yeah. But Dodie's
28:40
saying what he wants, so we don't have to worry
28:42
about that. That's true. So this goes on. Honestly,
28:45
we could just watch this whole interview and
28:47
insert our comments into it as we go. The man
28:49
doesn't shut the fuck up, in my opinion. It's
28:53
hard to pick what to talk about. So moving on,
28:56
it's still about this clip and not this clip,
29:00
but this interview. Another part of his new thing
29:02
is that hybrids are running like human trafficking,
29:05
as we've talking about. This one actually has
29:08
a different spin on it, though, in this interview
29:11
than the last ones we have seen, which I love
29:14
that it changes. Consistency is your enemy. Remember
29:17
that. But he's been saying it this whole time
29:19
for a long time. Stephen Greer. Instead of alien
29:24
knockoffs, he says in this interview that covert
29:27
programs are making these weird creatures with
29:30
alien and human DNA that have integrated circuits
29:33
in their cerebral cortex that are doing the abductions.
29:36
It's like every time he like comes up with something
29:39
that's just a little bit different. So people
29:42
have these abduction experiences thinking that
29:46
these are aliens, but they're not. Here, I have
29:49
the next clip here. First watch this ad for a
29:53
heat pump. Okay. It's a little frightening when
29:58
you're the president or senior members of Congress
30:00
to let this whole story come out because some
30:03
of the things that are being done and have been
30:05
done by these illegal treasonous operations would
30:10
make Watergate and all the other scandals of
30:12
the past century look like nothing. And I think
30:15
they don't want to manage that big of a disclosure.
30:18
So they're pivoting towards this. false disclosure
30:22
where they're leaving out the atrocities that
30:26
the humans have done, you know, such as abductions
30:29
and mutilations and hybrid programs where people,
30:34
covert programs, have taken extraterrestrial
30:37
DNA and human DNA and made these weird creatures
30:40
that have integrated circuits in their cerebral
30:43
cortex that are doing the abductions. And 100
30:46
% of people who encounter those think they've
30:48
encountered an extraterrestrial biological entity
30:51
and they haven't and so there's some members
30:54
of congress that have started talking about that
30:56
because they had after i brought this up to them
30:59
they had someone but i think so much of this
31:03
is is uh you know they're wanting the public
31:07
to have this sort of kindergarten level of disclosure
31:10
and maybe it's just an attempt to acculturate
31:13
things but my concern is that they're going to
31:16
end up covering up the cover -up And they're
31:19
going to cover up the human technology, which,
31:22
let's not forget, the energy component of that
31:26
technology would give us a new civilization and
31:29
would heal Gaia, would heal the planet and eliminate
31:33
poverty in 20 years. But they're wanting to keep
31:36
all that secret because there goes $1 ,000 to
31:39
$2 ,000 trillion in oil, gas, coal, and nuclear
31:42
and public utilities. They'd all be obsolete.
31:45
People should go see our documentary. But he
31:47
specifically doesn't want us to have the schematics
31:49
for it. I'm so sick of listening to this guy.
31:56
I was going to listen to more, but I'm looking
31:59
at the time and I'm so sick of listening. So
32:02
honestly, I could just put clips all day. If
32:06
you want something stupid to listen to and check
32:08
out the whole 17 hour long interview where Stephen
32:11
Greer talks about how he's the best. Anyhow.
32:15
There's so much in them we could pick apart.
32:18
Honestly, I could go on and on and on and on,
32:21
but I don't think we want a multiple triple -parter
32:23
on this piece of shit, honestly. In my opinion.
32:27
I had to listen to way too much Stephen Greer
32:30
to prepare for this episode. I'm pretty sure
32:32
my eyes are permanently rolled back into my head
32:36
because I rolled them too much. I think we might
32:39
have to just take Stephen Greer in moderation
32:41
of two doses at a time per year. Yeah. Pretty
32:45
much. I do admire that. As you know, Stephen
32:48
Greer is outspoken about all aliens being good
32:52
aliens. I think his argument is that if they
32:55
were hostile, we would be done already. Basically,
32:58
humans are actually the really bad ones using
33:01
the alien technology to run all these like black
33:04
rings of crime, which I think is amazing. And
33:07
obviously he's inspired by the Epstein files,
33:10
but humans are perfectly capable of doing this
33:13
without. the very complicated guides of obtaining
33:16
alien bodies creating hybrids or alien knockoffs
33:20
as he so eloquently referred to them as to orchestrate
33:24
a whole child trafficking ring they do just fine
33:27
without the added complication and that my friend
33:30
is occam's razor but how are you gonna make people
33:34
keep it secret unless you're making fake human
33:38
aliens they have to keep involved Exactly! And
33:43
I know there are a lot of things wrong with what
33:45
this guy is saying, almost every single thing,
33:48
but to say aliens are good in all of this implies
33:51
that we humans are the only inherently bad guys
33:54
in the whole entire universe? Yeah, that's weirdly
33:57
always been his thing, and he sells fear, so
34:01
he really focuses on that. But it's weird - that
34:04
he sells fear but he's like but he's always preaching
34:07
love yeah yeah yeah and we have done and continue
34:11
to do very very bad things as humans and i don't
34:15
think we're particularly special in that way
34:17
i'd love to pick his brain on that have you ever
34:20
heard anyone question him actually him and carrie
34:23
cassidy get into it about she thinks aliens like
34:27
they're bad aliens and they get into an argument
34:29
about it i should yeah i can believe that actually
34:32
i always like um it's funny that we take entire
34:37
civilizations which are supposed to have more
34:40
beings than we have population wise and they're
34:43
all good yeah like exactly i've never found monoliths
34:48
to really exist and how are how are we the worst
34:52
people in the whole entire universe Like that,
34:56
that is not, that can't be a thing. I don't know
34:59
other civilizations, but it just, it can't be
35:04
right. Like if the universe is that big, it defies
35:07
all. Exactly. That there's other bads out there.
35:10
It defies all things. I could go on and on about
35:15
this. Those are just two major things that stood
35:18
out to me glaringly. I have to call it somewhere.
35:21
I'm sick of talking about this guy. Sick of looking
35:24
at this guy. Fair enough. But I found a really
35:26
good Reddit comment I quite enjoyed. I'd like
35:29
to just read from one of his posts. This is from
35:32
user Funkpolice91. And he says, Greer is a straight
35:37
up disinfo agent for the forces that be. A plant.
35:41
First off, the guy looks like he's wearing a
35:43
skin suit. He does. Totally weird reptilian motherfucker.
35:50
Second, that shit he does. For example, he held
35:54
his own debrief at the same time as when Grouch
35:56
first came forward to Congress. You don't have
35:59
to be very smart in order to see that his debrief
36:02
convention, whatever the fuck it was, was held
36:05
as a way to make the UFO community look absolutely
36:07
special needs. Lastly, everyone that I respect
36:12
in the UFO world completely distances themselves
36:15
from Greer. They don't talk about it, but most
36:18
know that the guy is fucking weird, batshit insane,
36:20
and he's probably made to look us all insane.
36:23
A lot of what Greer says, I do believe a lot
36:25
of it is true, and what pisses me off even more
36:28
because the average person is going to dismiss
36:30
everything that Greer says is crazy, and that
36:32
is absolutely what a disinformation psyop is
36:35
meant to do, poison everything by injecting a
36:38
couple insane ideas into it. Well, Richard Doty,
36:41
tell me, why the hell should anyone believe the
36:43
word of a snake, a disinformation agent who devoted
36:46
his time to drive an innocent man insane? Quote,
36:49
I quit the black ops groups, guys. I'm not lying
36:51
anymore. End quote. Cry me a river, bitch. I
36:54
am suspicious of anyone who hangs out with Greer.
36:57
That's the end of his quote. Counterpoint. If
37:01
he was a disinformation agent, why the hell would
37:04
he talk to Doty? You think you'd want to keep
37:05
them distant? I don't know. Like, there's something
37:09
so... There almost seems like there would be
37:13
a cockiness where they would think that they
37:15
could work together. And they're like, it'll
37:18
be okay because everyone talks to Dodie. I don't
37:21
know. I don't know. I just think there's a realm
37:23
out there where... Like, yeah, touche on your
37:26
point. Yes, absolutely. But I just think there
37:29
is a world out there where they might think it's
37:30
okay. Also, they're not that good at what they
37:32
do, I guess. No, neither of them are good at
37:35
what they do. But yeah, and one more thing I
37:39
want to add that I just remembered was in that
37:41
interview, Stephen Greer is dropping names all
37:45
over the place, especially when he's talking
37:47
about that Steven Spielberg movie. He knows Steven
37:51
Spielberg's son and his son wants to give him
37:54
information. Then he was talking about some Count
37:57
Dracula and that's totally not what it is. some
38:01
royalty guy over in Europe who's paying the government
38:05
about these UFOs and trying to keep it a secret,
38:09
but he's talking to Greer about it too. So I
38:12
don't know. The story's fucking wild. Check out
38:14
the link. Probably don't. I wouldn't if I were
38:16
you. I did not enjoy any of it. That's my episode.
38:21
Awesome. Well, thank you for that, Chelsea. You're
38:23
welcome. I'm always just curious what he's up
38:25
to, and I know you had to, like, that's the Colesnose.
38:27
There's other things out there I know, too, that
38:29
we could have covered. Oh, there's lots that
38:30
I could go on. We'll give those a different time.
38:32
For now, I have been Taylor, here with Chelsea.
38:35
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