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‘Tech Tuesday’ with Rich DeMuro | Millennials and Minivans · The Bill Handel Show

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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Speaker 1: six forty.
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Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty Bill Handle. It is a Tuesday
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Speaker 2: Taco Tuesday Morning, July twenty eighth. Very hot out there.
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Speaker 2: It's a shitz. It's pretty steamy as well as being
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Speaker 2: hot north of triple digit temperatures here in the Southland,
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Speaker 2: particularly the valleys and inland the Inland Empire and throughout
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Speaker 2: the country. The weather has been crazy throughout the country
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Speaker 2: with floods and tornadoes just going nuts. It is time
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Speaker 2: for our Tuesday Tech segment with Rich tomorrow website, rich
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Speaker 2: on Tech, rich on Tech dot TV, Saturday's eleven am
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Speaker 2: two pm right here on KFI at rich on Tech Instagram,
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Speaker 2: and now without further ado, which I've never understood that
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Speaker 2: without further ado, whatever the hell that means?
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Speaker 1: Rich Good morning, Hey, good morning to you. Bill. You
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Speaker 1: know what means without without you know, for their delay?
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Speaker 2: No, I understand that, I get that, But why a
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Speaker 2: do well?
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Speaker 3: Like you know how sometimes you pump me up. You're like, man,
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Speaker 3: he's got a website and he also has an email address,
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Speaker 3: and I'm.
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Speaker 1: Like, okay, thank you appreciate that.
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Speaker 2: Bill, Okay, where's the ADU part.
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Speaker 1: All right, never mind that the ADO. What does the
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Speaker 1: DO mean?
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Speaker 2: I have this exactly my point. What does a DoD do?
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Speaker 2: What does it mean?
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Speaker 1: Fuss? Fuss unnecessary? Okay, fuss commotion.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so like sometimes you know, extra fuss, like you know,
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Speaker 3: let's just get straight to it, like we haven't.
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Speaker 1: Been doing for the past minute.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So without further ado, the new Samsung foldables. I
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Speaker 2: know last time around you hadn't yet tried them, and
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Speaker 2: now you have. Tell me what you think.
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Speaker 1: Uh so, pretty good.
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Speaker 3: I will tell you this is the first time in
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Speaker 3: the seven years that I've been testing them that I
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Speaker 3: could actually wholly recommend them. So they've got three models,
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Speaker 3: as expected. You've got the Flip, which is just sort
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Speaker 3: of a you know, think old school motorol eraser. Then
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Speaker 3: you've got the fold eight, which is a brand new
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Speaker 3: form factor. It looks like a little mini passport, so
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Speaker 3: it's kind of shortened squat, but it opens up into
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Speaker 3: a nice big screen and it's lightweight, it's easy, it's cheaper,
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Speaker 3: I mean, still expensive nineteen hundred dollars, but that's the
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Speaker 3: one that's getting the most attention right now. And then
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Speaker 3: you have the standard fold a Ultra, which is, you know,
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Speaker 3: a thin kind of a narrow screen on the outside,
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Speaker 3: opens up to a big phone on the inside that's
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Speaker 3: got the best camera, it's got the best battery.
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Speaker 1: It's also a little bit heavier.
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Speaker 3: So if you want the best of the best, that's
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Speaker 3: probably Samsung's best. But for everyone else, they're all looking
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Speaker 3: at this Fold eight, which you know, again is easy
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Speaker 3: to hold, and I think that's what people like about it.
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Speaker 2: Now at nineteen hundred dollars for the second best, as
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Speaker 2: you described it, what is the best.
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Speaker 3: Cost it starts at twenty one hundred dollars, so you're talking,
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Speaker 3: you know, the price of a laptop. But for a
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Speaker 3: lot of people, and in most of the comments I've
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Speaker 3: gotten about these phones are they are still too expensive
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Speaker 3: for the average person to really entertain them in a
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Speaker 3: big way. But you know, the early adopters that people
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Speaker 3: want to be different, that people will want something cool, unique,
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Speaker 3: This is where it's at, and twenty one hundred dollars
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Speaker 3: is really like, like I said, laptop money there. So
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Speaker 3: of course most people finance their phones. They're not paying them,
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Speaker 3: you know, straight up front, so you know, to each
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Speaker 3: his own. And of course we know that Apple is
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Speaker 3: coming out with Vultable later this year, or we think
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Speaker 3: they are, and we're expecting to bring the price to
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Speaker 3: be anywhere between twenty and twenty five hundred dollars. So
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Speaker 3: these things are not cheap due to the screen technology,
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Speaker 3: that's for sure.
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Speaker 2: Okay. So with that being said, uh, you know, we
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Speaker 2: think of two three hundred dollars for a cell phone,
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Speaker 2: and it's sort of anybody's been around for a while
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Speaker 2: that goes through your head. Uh. And the reason I think,
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Speaker 2: and tell me if I'm right on that, is because
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Speaker 2: people don't even though they're called cell phones, we're so
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Speaker 2: far away from cell phones that it's not even the
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Speaker 2: same animal.
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Speaker 3: No, I mean two three hundred dollars for a phone,
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Speaker 3: depending on the model I mean, I would say most
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Speaker 3: people are probably looking at the standard iPhone starts at
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Speaker 3: around eight hundred dollars. But I talked about this, you know,
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Speaker 3: on my radio show over the weekend, and a lot
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Speaker 3: of people are commenting on my Instagram that people are
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Speaker 3: just keeping their phones longer, like the way. They're not
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Speaker 3: even fighting back. They're just saying like, I don't need
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Speaker 3: something new, Like my phone works just fine, so why
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Speaker 3: should I pay more when this thing is either paid
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Speaker 3: off or it's very cheap, or it's almost paid off
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Speaker 3: or whatever. And I'm just going to ride this thing
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Speaker 3: to the end because it still takes good pictures, it
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Speaker 3: still works. The biggest issue people have is, you know,
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Speaker 3: the battery might start going out towards the end. But
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Speaker 3: most phones, you know, the people are keeping them for
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Speaker 3: about I think it's forty five months now, it's like
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Speaker 3: almost four years.
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Speaker 2: So how does Apple keep on growing?
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Speaker 1: Story then, because sure, this is what they did today.
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's do that.
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Speaker 3: Today they introduced this new thing called the Apple Upgrade
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Speaker 3: Program and it's basically a lease for the iPhone. So
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Speaker 3: it makes an eleven hundred dollars device thirty two dollars
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Speaker 3: a month, and that's seven hundred and sixty eight dollars
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Speaker 3: over two years. But after the two years, guess what happens.
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Speaker 3: You do not own the phone. You have to give
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Speaker 3: it back to them, or you can start a new lease,
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Speaker 3: or you can pay to keep it. But this is
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Speaker 3: how they make things cheaper. You know, the Apple Watch
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Speaker 3: is maybe twelve dollars a month for twenty four months,
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Speaker 3: thirty six months. You can you can do the laptops,
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Speaker 3: the iPads, and so we're getting into this kind of
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Speaker 3: system here where people are just leasing their Apple products
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Speaker 3: because guess what.
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Speaker 1: Twenty dollars a month, thirty dollars a.
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Speaker 3: Month sounds a heck of a lot cheaper than paying
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Speaker 3: two thousand dollars up front.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why infomercials is nineteen ninety five a month,
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Speaker 2: five easy payments. Yeah that is, that's only twenty bucks
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Speaker 2: a month then, so you can live with that, all right.
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Speaker 2: This one is I'm not confused, but I find it
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Speaker 2: kind of interesting, and that is Amazon wants to go
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Speaker 2: into the starlink business and is scheduled to launch five
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Speaker 2: thousand satellites to perform voice and tech service directly to
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Speaker 2: regular cell phones. Now, starlink has what ten thousand or
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Speaker 2: fifteen thousand satellites up in the sky, and if you
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Speaker 2: add five thousand, I mean, already there's so much junk
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Speaker 2: out there. How many can you have? And are these
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Speaker 2: the only two companies that are doing this.
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Speaker 1: Well?
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Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of companies that have had
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Speaker 3: satellites in the sky for a long time. I think
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Speaker 3: starlink was the first to kind of blanket the sky
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Speaker 3: they've got looks like twenty nine satellites and counting. Obviously,
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Speaker 3: Amazon wants to do something similar and there's big money
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Speaker 3: here in the future because imagine in the success we've
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Speaker 3: already seen with Starlink, with all the airplanes, all the
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Speaker 3: airlines that are doing deals with them, and so you've
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Speaker 3: got all that coming online in the next couple of years.
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Speaker 3: So just flying is going to be so much better
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Speaker 3: when you have a high speed internet connection. And then
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Speaker 3: when you think about hikers and anyone that's anywhere in
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Speaker 3: the world. We've had satellite phones for a very long time,
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Speaker 3: but now the ability to have your regular smartphone connect
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Speaker 3: to a satellite and right now most of it is
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Speaker 3: just for data and it's not really for calling just yet.
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Speaker 3: But imagine in a couple of years, like what Amazon's
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Speaker 3: talking about, it's going to be voice calling, video calling
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Speaker 3: from anywhere in the world as long as you can
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Speaker 3: see the sky.
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Speaker 1: That's going to save a lot of lives right there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty impressive. Start making money or is it
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Speaker 2: still losing?
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Speaker 3: I think I don't know. I don't do the financial
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Speaker 3: stuff on this, but I think I know that SpaceX
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Speaker 3: just iPod, which I believe Starlink as part of SpaceX,
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Speaker 3: so I mean they yeah, but I think the stock
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Speaker 3: went down, so.
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Speaker 1: I don't really know.
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Speaker 3: I don't really follow that a bit, but I do
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Speaker 3: know that, you know, obviously, it costs a lot of
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Speaker 3: money to put these things into outer space, and I
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Speaker 3: don't think the return is there just yet. But I
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Speaker 3: think that with all these airline deals coming online in
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Speaker 3: the next couple of years, you know, they have to
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Speaker 3: install these things in every airline and it takes a
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Speaker 3: long time to put those in planes, So I think
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Speaker 3: eventually there will be a bigger return on this. But again,
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Speaker 3: just getting it out there into space is probably very,
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Speaker 3: very expensive, especially compared to something like a cellular antenna
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Speaker 3: that you can put up overnight somewhere in a city.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fascinating in the technology and how fast it
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Speaker 2: has gone, because if you look at traditional telecommunication satellites,
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Speaker 2: they're as big as a small bus, and today on
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Speaker 2: the technology as such, for example Starlink, the satellites were
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Speaker 2: as big as shoe boxes, and they can do far
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Speaker 2: more more than even ten years ago what these massive
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Speaker 2: satellites were up. And I'm sure it costs a fraction
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Speaker 2: to put those up even manufacture them. That's Elon Musk
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Speaker 2: once again the as nuts as he is, being a
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Speaker 2: complete visionary for sure. Okay, now the golf cart. Actually
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Speaker 2: it's being called a life utility vehicle. God, I love that.
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Speaker 2: What an acre well, what a description. It just it
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Speaker 2: goes crazy with this stuff. So tell me about this
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Speaker 2: that you recently profiled. This people, this piece of work.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it took a ride in this this ev.
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Speaker 1: It's called CHIP.
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Speaker 3: It's got kind of a funny little face on the front,
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Speaker 3: like these led lights on the front, so it looks
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Speaker 3: very cute, you know, and it talks to you. Although
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Speaker 3: you know a lot of this that I saw, I
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Speaker 3: mean I did take a ride in it, but it
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Speaker 3: was very pre production. Like this thing is still you know,
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Speaker 3: it's probably gonna happen, but it's definitely not like very
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Speaker 3: close for the one that I saw, let's put it
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Speaker 3: that way. But it's called CHIP. They call it a
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Speaker 3: life utility vehicle. Think golf cart, but a little bit bigger,
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Speaker 3: and it's really purpose built for short trips around town.
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Speaker 3: So here's you know, as the founder told me, what
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Speaker 3: he noticed is a lot of people are buying golf
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Speaker 3: carts in beach cities because they're easy to get around,
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Speaker 3: you can put your surfboard on them, and they're cheap.
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Speaker 3: And the problem is he noticed, is that they're not
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Speaker 3: really that safe for families and for people to use
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Speaker 3: on American streets because they're not built with American streets
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Speaker 3: in mind.
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Speaker 1: So this is purpose built for US streets.
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Speaker 3: It's got to it sits a little bit higher, so
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Speaker 3: you know, obviously in line with sort of an suv bumper.
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Speaker 3: It's got safety like roll cages on it, so it's
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Speaker 3: much safer on city streets. Top speed twenty five miles
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Speaker 3: an hour. You can take it on streets up to
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Speaker 3: thirty five miles an hour, and the range is about
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Speaker 3: one hundred So again this is just for things around town.
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Speaker 3: Fifteen thousand bucks for the base model kind of cool.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was thinking, first of all, fifteen thousand
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Speaker 2: dollars for a golf cart or really nice one new
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Speaker 2: golf cart is not is not unusual. You can easily
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Speaker 2: spend fifteen thousand dollars. And I'm thinking, you know, what's
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Speaker 2: the difference here in Susan You be mentioned rollcage and
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Speaker 2: much safer. Yeah, that's the big fear I'm thinking of
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Speaker 2: one because my neighborhood is such as a gated neighborhood
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Speaker 2: and people zip around on golf carts all day long,
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Speaker 2: and so you know, and some golf carts are street license,
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Speaker 2: because you most golf carts are not.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 3: Well, the other thing here is that they're also pitching
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Speaker 3: like tech features so that this thing not only talks
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Speaker 3: to you, it has you know, it's got like a
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Speaker 3: nice big screen inside, but also the feature that they're
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Speaker 3: saying is going to be kind of like the nicest
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Speaker 3: part of this thing is that it can drive itself.
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Speaker 3: It can go park itself for you. Sorry, not drive
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Speaker 3: itself eventually maybe, but it can park itself. So if
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Speaker 3: you go to the golf club, you know, the clubhouse
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Speaker 3: or whatever, your little golf cart can go find a
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Speaker 3: parking spot and then come back and get you. Now,
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Speaker 3: they did not demo that for me. That is a
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Speaker 3: feature that is planned. But that is a million dollar
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Speaker 3: feature right there. In my book, I wish Tesla would
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Speaker 3: get that because to have your car drop you off
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Speaker 3: and then go find a parking spot and then come
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Speaker 3: back and get you would be pretty amazing in this town.
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Speaker 2: Is there any vehicle that does that existing.
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Speaker 1: I don't think so, not that I know of.
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Speaker 3: I mean that Tesla can park and it has the
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Speaker 3: summon mode, but it doesn't it's not fully autonomous like that.
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Speaker 1: So no, not that I know of.
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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Rich, as always a delight to have
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Speaker 2: you with us. All love the new great stuff that
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Speaker 2: you bring to the table. And once again it's this
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Speaker 2: Saturday from eleven am to two pm with Rich's show
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Speaker 2: here on KFI, rich on Tech, richon tech dot TV,
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Speaker 2: the website which is great stuff, very extensive, and his
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Speaker 2: Instagram page, your Instagram page at rich on Tech. Have
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Speaker 2: a good one. We'll catch you over the weekend.
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Speaker 1: Rich, Thank you, Bill.
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Speaker 2: Okay, notice I always do that, We'll catch you again
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Speaker 2: and then or hey, welcome, and then you have to
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Speaker 2: wait until someone goes, hey, nice to be here. I've
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Speaker 2: always wondered about that. Why you have to have the
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Speaker 2: appropriate response as opposed to just zipping along?
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Speaker 1: All right?
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Speaker 2: Thanks Rich. Okay, Now the story and how we deal
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Speaker 2: with Swog. Swog's actually making a comeback, which is absolutely
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Speaker 2: no fun, and there are a couple of reasons. But
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Speaker 2: first let's start with my experience growing up in the
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Speaker 2: San Friano Valley, And you know, I'm going to date myself.
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Speaker 2: But I was a young kid, late fifties when I
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Speaker 2: started living in southern California. We came in nineteen fifty seven,
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Speaker 2: and as I said, I was young, young, young, But
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Speaker 2: I remember going to school in starting in the sixties actually,
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Speaker 2: and the smog during the summer was so bad it
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Speaker 2: looked like fog and I would be in school and June,
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Speaker 2: for example, June let out around the third week of June,
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Speaker 2: and we went outside. They didn't keep you inside because
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Speaker 2: of the swag, and it actually hurt to breathe if
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Speaker 2: you took a deep breath, it actually hurt. And in
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Speaker 2: those days there were no catalytic converters. We actually had
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Speaker 2: incinerators in the backyards where we would burn the trash. Well,
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Speaker 2: that changed because of swag, and then catalytic converters came in.
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Speaker 2: That took about thirty years. By the way, there's a
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Speaker 2: lot of stuff that takes generations to undo. For example,
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Speaker 2: wood shingles on houses southern California, it was all wood shingles.
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Speaker 2: Well that became illegal and wood roofless or a roofless
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Speaker 2: about thirty years. So now there's no such thing. You
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Speaker 2: don't have virtually none. So there is a podcast Goes
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Speaker 2: that is starting in a column series called Swag, and
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Speaker 2: it looks at what happened with smog and what is
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Speaker 2: coming bad, why it's coming bad, why it's coming back badly.
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Speaker 2: And we've dealt with smog, sometimes kicking and screaming, sometimes
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Speaker 2: on the ballot box, sometimes just following regulations that policymakers,
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Speaker 2: that politicians put into place, like smog checks, carpool lanes.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes by letting science and technology do earth thing, and
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Speaker 2: we have issues with nature. For example, nineteen thirty three,
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Speaker 2: the Long Beach earthquake. There's a great video by the
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Speaker 2: way of WC. Feels in a movie and they were
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Speaker 2: filming it when it hit, when the earthquake hit, and
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Speaker 2: it's fascinating to see what happens. Anyway, that was nineteen
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Speaker 2: thirty three in Long Beach, killed one hundred people, and
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Speaker 2: that made seismic safety a requirement throughout California. And then
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Speaker 2: the quake in North ra Age sixty seven nine point
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Speaker 2: six point seven quake, seismic retrofitting became the law for
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Speaker 2: many buildings. And then we have disasters that are human.
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Speaker 2: The drought cycles that began decades ago. You remember the
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Speaker 2: water diets indoors indoors outdoors. You could only mow your
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Speaker 2: lawn every other day or every other week, or you couldn't,
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Speaker 2: and you could only wash your car once a week
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Speaker 2: or once every two weeks. And then you couldn't flush
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Speaker 2: your toilet if you peed. Remember that line, if it's yellow,
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Speaker 2: let it mellow, if it's round, flush it down. Honest
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Speaker 2: to god, that was the because we were such drought,
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Speaker 2: and we actually did. And to give you an idea
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Speaker 2: of how well we're doing in the water world, you
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Speaker 2: go back forty years ago. A million people, a million
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Speaker 2: fewer people lived in la forty years ago. So you
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Speaker 2: go from back then to now, we're still using the
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Speaker 2: same amount of water that we did forty years ago,
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Speaker 2: with an increase of fifty percent population. So we are
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Speaker 2: doing well in that regard or better. There's a Caltech
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Speaker 2: biochemist Ari hagen Schmidt called Hagen's Smog, and he proved
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Speaker 2: the connection between cars and smog. Before that, I guess
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Speaker 2: they didn't know. And he laid it out the psychology
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Speaker 2: fifty years ago and he said, the public wants clean air. Yep,
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Speaker 2: they want clean air. What they don't want to do
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Speaker 2: is go to too much trouble to create clean air.
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Speaker 2: So why is smog coming back? Well because all of
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Speaker 2: the efforts that we are making to stop smog being
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Speaker 2: halted in many certainly legally and again of course primarily
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Speaker 2: President Trump, and a lot of it has to do
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Speaker 2: with he just doesn't like California. It's that simple. Anything
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Speaker 2: California is bad, and we do We deal with swag
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Speaker 2: better than any other state, especially here in southern California.
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Speaker 2: So good bye resources. For example, nearly seventy years of
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Speaker 2: bipartisan federal waivers, there are requirements for smog or for
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Speaker 2: pollution from cars that the federal government establishes. Well, there've
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Speaker 2: been waivers that let California go beyond that and make
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Speaker 2: it more restrictive. Gone gone, that's one. So we can't
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Speaker 2: set stricter air pollution standards anymore. No long range plan
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Speaker 2: to retire diesel trucks gone, Gasoline fueled cars gone. Basically
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Speaker 2: unlimited mileage. Remember when the mileage had to be thirty
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Speaker 2: five miles per gallon across the board. Now it doesn't exist.
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Speaker 2: Now you can have as much gas mileage or as
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Speaker 2: little gas mileage as you want. And so you've got
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Speaker 2: economy standards disappearing, and so the smog is coming back. Certainly,
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Speaker 2: the legal manifestations of dealing with smog our history. So
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Speaker 2: that was technology still going on. Well, yeah, for one thing,
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Speaker 2: for example, moving to evs, and there was a mandatory
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Speaker 2: number of evs that had to be sold or limiting
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Speaker 2: the number of gas powered cars gone. You can sell
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Speaker 2: as many as you want, uh and charging and spending
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Speaker 2: money in federal benefits and getting a car for example,
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Speaker 2: subsidies gone. H. So evs are well, they're not being
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Speaker 2: bought anywhere near the number of cars that were before.
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Speaker 2: And we're talking about all these anti pollution laws that
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Speaker 2: came in in terms of plants, and we're talking about
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Speaker 2: power plants in terms of UH limiting those and making
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Speaker 2: the pollution at a minimum or creating pollution at a minimum.
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Speaker 2: Those requirements for the most part are gone. And I
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Speaker 2: don't think he's particularly anti clean air. I think he's
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Speaker 2: anti California. And if California is clean air centric, well,
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Speaker 2: all of this means that smog is coming back, and
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Speaker 2: that's no fun and it's dangerous stuff, by the way,
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Speaker 2: And today at least we have smog alerts where kids
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Speaker 2: are not being allowed outside. You know, there were years
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Speaker 2: when that didn't exist, years where there was no issue.
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Speaker 2: Now there's an issue. Okay, let me finish up with
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Speaker 2: a story about mini vans that cow they are cool again.
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Speaker 2: I mean, sales just literally fell off the edge and
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Speaker 2: now they're coming back. There's a TikTok video that shows
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Speaker 2: lounge stair lounge style chairs built in ottomans fourteen in
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Speaker 2: screen Toyota Siennas, which are the hottest car out there.
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Speaker 2: One guy has eighteen cup holders in it, but y'all's
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Speaker 2: still thirsty, because that's what minivans do. It was considered
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Speaker 2: a dead segment, grew twenty one percent in twenty twenty five,
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Speaker 2: almost four hundred thousand units, and the Toyota Sienna is
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Speaker 2: the fastest selling car on the market right now. Sales
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Speaker 2: increase thirty five twenty twenty five the Sienna. In May,
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Speaker 2: the Chrysler and Dodge CEO Matt mcclear declared the minivan
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Speaker 2: is seeing a resurgence. It was invented by Chrysler. Leiahcoca
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Speaker 2: came out with the minivan. Now that Millennia's millennials have
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Speaker 2: reached parenting age. They're not just discovering the practical features
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Speaker 2: of minivans, like seats that don't just slide backwards and forwards,
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Speaker 2: but side side. Those are kind of neat and in
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Speaker 2: some cases they face each other. They're really good. Sliding
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Speaker 2: doors make it easier to shuffle kids around. It's for
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Speaker 2: people hauling, and this is ivan. Drury, who is Edmonds,
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Speaker 2: said there's really no better vehicle for people hauling at
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Speaker 2: cargo capacity, hauling people and cargo. But in the end,
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Speaker 2: it's about money. And it used to be soccer mom
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Speaker 2: is what people think of them, but you know today
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Speaker 2: it's beyond that. I really like it. Well, I had
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Speaker 2: a minivan when my kids were small. We had a
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Speaker 2: minivan because it's just easier, a lot easier in cargo
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Speaker 2: space and putting in the you know, the kids seats
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Speaker 2: and all that. And one of the most memorable this
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Speaker 2: is actually the most memorable moment in my VENI my
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Speaker 2: mini van, my mini van history. My daughters had just
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Speaker 2: learned how to deal with the way windows, the electric windows,
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Speaker 2: and my daughter Barbara loved the electric windows going up
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Speaker 2: and down. I let her do it because that's fairly
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Speaker 2: safe and benign. She's buckled in And we got off
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Speaker 2: the freeway one day and there was a guy who
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Speaker 2: had a sign up, you know, the cardboard sign will
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Speaker 2: work for food. So Barbara, she must have been five
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Speaker 2: or six years old, rolls down the window and yells
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Speaker 2: at him get a job. Now, at that point, what
23:34
Speaker 2: I did is I gave it the arm pump and
23:37
Speaker 2: I said, that's my daughter. That is a chip off
23:43
Speaker 2: the apple off the old tree. But the point is
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Speaker 2: they were great, and I love them, and they're cheaper.
23:51
Speaker 2: By the way, SUVs. SUVs are a fortune relative to minivans,
23:56
Speaker 2: and so the uncoolness of any mini vans has now
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Speaker 2: gone the other way, and they are not they are
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Speaker 2: just cool. The average price for a minivan just this
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Speaker 2: June was forty eight forty nine thousand dollars. The average
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Speaker 2: cost of new cars was fifty thousand dollars, so it's
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Speaker 2: pretty close. But if you look at a full size suv,
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Speaker 2: I mean, now we're talking sixty seventy thousand dollars for
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Speaker 2: a full size suv.
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Speaker 1: I've never paid thirty thousand for a car.
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Speaker 2: I understand that. Well, that's just who you are, now,
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Speaker 2: I get it.
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Speaker 1: Holy smokes.
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Speaker 2: I have aide that's one of the things that I've
24:37
Speaker 2: paid way too much money for is a car. So
24:39
Speaker 2: I'm buying probably my last car coming up, and I
24:43
Speaker 2: am looking at cars that are off least three years
24:47
Speaker 2: old or older. That's and that's what I'm buying, you know.
24:52
Speaker 2: And that's a guy plan on running image of the ground,
24:56
Speaker 2: you know, because I've been that's one of my stupid
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Speaker 2: errors financial. I'm pretty good with my money. I am
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Speaker 2: pretty good saver, live under my means as you do, Neil.
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Speaker 2: And just having been real bright about cars you have,
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Speaker 2: you know, you've been much smart. I've only had one
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Speaker 2: new car my entire life.
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Speaker 1: That was my very first purchased car. But other than that,
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Speaker 1: I've never bought a new car.
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Speaker 2: Okay, we're done, guys. Tomorrow's Jim Keeney. As always on
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