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The Late Debate | 1 October · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the program.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Caleb Bond with Liz Storer and filling in for
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  Speaker 3: James McPherson is Kel richards Well. The former British Prime
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  Speaker 3: Minister Boris Johnson has made a shocking claim about the
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  Speaker 3: death of the Queen. Will tell you what it is
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  Speaker 3: later in the show. Stephen Miles, Premier of Queensland, has
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  Speaker 3: backed the political trend and said he would do a
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  Speaker 3: deal with the Greens if it comes to minority government.
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  Speaker 3: And a father to be has landed himself a day
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  Speaker 3: in court after revealing the gender of his coming child.
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  Speaker 2: We'll tell you why later.
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  Speaker 3: Now we are continually told renewable energy is the cheapest
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  Speaker 3: form of energy available, and you, like me, look at
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  Speaker 3: your power bill every month and know that that is
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  Speaker 3: absolutely not the case. It costs a lot of money
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  Speaker 3: to get these things over from China, primarily to then
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  Speaker 3: put them up on pieces of land where people generally
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  Speaker 3: don't want them. But what happens when twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 3: years down the line you have to get rid of them?
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  Speaker 3: How much does it cost? Well, you now have people
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  Speaker 3: and blow and behold this reporting has come ya the ABC.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm just as shocked as you are. But you
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  Speaker 2: now have people.
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  Speaker 3: Saying that, look, we could put wind turbines up on
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  Speaker 3: our properties and they stand to gain about seven hundred
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  Speaker 3: and fifty thousand dollars in profit per turbine over the
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  Speaker 3: twenty five year lifespan.
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  Speaker 2: But what happens when we have to get rid of it?
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  Speaker 3: Because the Australian Energy Infrastructure Commissioner now estimates that decommissioning
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  Speaker 3: a single wind turbine costs six hundred thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 2: And so if you agree to have one.
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  Speaker 3: Of these wind turbines, or presumably many of these wind
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  Speaker 3: turbines on your property, you've got a hope that the
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  Speaker 3: company that pays to put them up in the first
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  Speaker 3: place is still going to be around in twenty five
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  Speaker 3: years time so they can pay to take it down.
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  Speaker 3: Otherwise you're going to be left up the creek. So
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  Speaker 3: landowners are saying, well, we need the government to step
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  Speaker 3: in here if we are possibly going to allow these
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  Speaker 3: things to be built, because hell, we don't want to
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  Speaker 3: be left with a six hundred thousand dollar bill for
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  Speaker 3: every single wind turbine that we allow to be put up.
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  Speaker 3: But presumably all of this then if it's going to
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  Speaker 3: be paid for by the government or the power companies, has.
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  Speaker 2: To be factored into what you pay.
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  Speaker 3: So, Liz, not only do we pay for the thing
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  Speaker 3: to be put up in the first place, which is
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  Speaker 3: hideously expensive, now we've got to pay for the thing
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  Speaker 3: to be decommissioned six hundred thousand dollars per pop. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know exactly how many turbines there are across
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  Speaker 3: the entire country.
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  Speaker 2: I know in.
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  Speaker 3: Victoria there's about two thousand, five hundred. I mean multiply
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  Speaker 3: that by six hundred thousand dollars a pop for every
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  Speaker 3: single one of them. We are talking about huge money
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  Speaker 3: here for the cheapest energy in the world.
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  Speaker 4: Apparently, and quite rightly, people who are being asked to
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  Speaker 4: put these up on their land saying well, hang on
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  Speaker 4: a minute, you don't have a clear decommissioning process here. Now,
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  Speaker 4: according to the math that the Australian Energy Infrastructure Commissioner
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  Speaker 4: has put out there, saying well, we'll give you if
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  Speaker 4: you're getting seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars per wind
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  Speaker 4: turbine on your property, and you may have to fit
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  Speaker 4: the bill for the six hundred thousand to decommission it,
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  Speaker 4: you'd still be making one hundred and fifty thousand per turbi, and.
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  Speaker 3: That's seven hundred and fifty k over twenty five years.
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  Speaker 3: Once you've accounted for inflation. Surely you're six hundred grands
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  Speaker 3: out the wink well.
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  Speaker 4: Who knows what you'd actually end up fitting the bill for.
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  Speaker 5: Quite rightly the good point, good point.
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  Speaker 4: But we already have ninety operating wind farms in Australia,
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  Speaker 4: three hundred in total if the summer being built, some
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  Speaker 4: are planned, they are underway, and we don't yet have
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  Speaker 4: a clear decommissioning process.
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  Speaker 6: How on earth is this supposed to happen?
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  Speaker 4: And we know from last year you may remember this
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  Speaker 4: when Nick Cada from Menzies Research Center took himself up
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  Speaker 4: to far North Queensland and discovered we already have wind
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  Speaker 4: turbine graveyards in our own country. Check this out and
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  Speaker 4: tell me how renewable you think this looks.
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  Speaker 7: Just dumped here here they are. This is renewable energy.
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  Speaker 7: By the way, remember that word renewable. There's nothing much
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  Speaker 7: renewable about these things. These are old turbine blades, quite
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  Speaker 7: short ones actually, I mean they look big but they're
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  Speaker 7: some of the early twenty meters I think, and now.
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  Speaker 1: They've worn out.
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  Speaker 7: You can see you look at the quality of it,
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  Speaker 7: there's not much life left.
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  Speaker 3: In that.
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  Speaker 6: Now.
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  Speaker 4: Those ones discovered last July had been lying there for
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  Speaker 4: eight years already, and it bears noting that the ones
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  Speaker 4: we're now building are four to.
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  Speaker 8: Five times bigger than that.
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  Speaker 4: So what kind of graveyards are we going to be
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  Speaker 4: having twenty five to thirty years from now and then
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  Speaker 4: what's the cost of Obviously we won't be able to
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  Speaker 4: just ditch them without replacing them.
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  Speaker 8: By then we will be very reliant on them.
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  Speaker 4: Indeed, I just can't believe the short sightedness of this government.
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  Speaker 9: The blades now are the length of four buses. The
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  Speaker 9: problem is the people living in Teels electorates are now
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  Speaker 9: near them, so they've got no idea how big they are.
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  Speaker 9: And they remember as kids going out to the bush
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  Speaker 9: and seeing those cute little southern cross wind mills, wind
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  Speaker 9: mills that pumped up bore water for the cattle, and
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  Speaker 9: that's they're nice.
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  Speaker 1: No they're not.
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  Speaker 9: They're an average of four hundred and fifty feet high.
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  Speaker 9: They're huge. They're like you know, multi story buildings. As
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  Speaker 9: I say, one blade fills the back of an entire
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  Speaker 9: semi trailer, so they're to get rid of it. You've
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  Speaker 9: got concrete and in the base, you've got steel in
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  Speaker 9: the town and those big blades are made out of
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  Speaker 9: fiberglass and bals of wood.
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  Speaker 1: And this is not the ball.
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  Speaker 9: The fiberglass is not particularly degradable or reusable stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And where are you.
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  Speaker 9: Going to put that graveyard that nixaw was just lying
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  Speaker 9: on the ground.
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  Speaker 1: There's going to have.
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  Speaker 9: To be a burial process for these things so they
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  Speaker 9: don't have to be put into some sort of massive
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  Speaker 9: transport delivered out to the center of Australia or somewhere
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  Speaker 9: and have a huge pitch together. Plus, don't forget, we've
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  Speaker 9: also known to dispose of the solar panels. Because the
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  Speaker 9: solar panels contain toxic waste material. They need to be
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  Speaker 9: very deep enough to be safe. The figures I looked
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  Speaker 9: at was minimum of say thirty dollars each to get
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  Speaker 9: rid of a solar panel, even a small one, and
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  Speaker 9: there will be millions of thirty dollars. They were saying,
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  Speaker 9: if you don't transport it, they can they can get
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  Speaker 9: rid of it for thirty dollars. Mind you, I went
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  Speaker 9: to an environmentalist website, so it might have been miss cheap, and.
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  Speaker 1: We are immediately I am I gift, it's in your blood.
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  Speaker 9: But the point is there are millions of them, and
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  Speaker 9: they're going to have to be buried somewhere where they'll
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  Speaker 9: be safe because they become toxic waste material. And you
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  Speaker 9: talked about the setup cost. After we've buried them and
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  Speaker 9: got rid of at the cost of six hundred thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Each, we then have to spend the money to build
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  Speaker 1: them again back out.
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  Speaker 9: So the construction costs going on now happen every twenty years.
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  Speaker 3: But I love that we complain, not we I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we obviously don't hear, but oh, we could not possibly
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  Speaker 3: have nuclear waste anywhere in this country because it's so dangerous,
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  Speaker 3: it's awful, it's bad for the environment. Yet in the
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  Speaker 3: name of the environment, we put up the wind turbines
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  Speaker 3: and the solar panels and whatever that are equally as
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  Speaker 3: bad by the time you've decommissioned them, full of heavy
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  Speaker 3: metals and all sorts of stuff that buggers up the land.
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  Speaker 3: But there's no problem with that. I want to know
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  Speaker 3: what the land looks like after they've decommissioned these wind turbines.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if you've said you can have my pad
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  Speaker 3: it to put up all these wind turbines, it's going
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  Speaker 3: to look like a minefield by the time.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I imagine that they just rebuild on the same land,
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  Speaker 4: because it makes sense. Otherwise, then you'd have to go
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  Speaker 4: through the whole process again.
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  Speaker 8: To build a new wind farm or solar farm.
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  Speaker 9: I think we should change the language. They're not farms.
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  Speaker 9: They produce nothing that we can actually buy in the supermarket.
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  Speaker 1: They should be called wind factories.
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  Speaker 9: These are the mills of Satanis, the dark mills.
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  Speaker 1: They're wind factories.
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  Speaker 2: They're not farst or bird choppers eyes.
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  Speaker 1: And they also burst into flames.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly know, because Labor told us last year, people crunch
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  Speaker 4: the numbers. They've got to erect a wind turbine every
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  Speaker 4: single day, at least one until twenty thirty in order
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  Speaker 4: to reach their goals.
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  Speaker 6: And as for solar.
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  Speaker 8: Panels, twenty two thousand a day.
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  Speaker 4: We need new solar panels in order to reach these
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  Speaker 4: twenty thirty goals that everyone has said for very good reason,
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  Speaker 4: is entirely impractical. You're never going to get there, and
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  Speaker 4: in fact, we very much hope that you don't. To
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  Speaker 4: the US now where the Carmala campaign and the Trump
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  Speaker 4: campaign are facing off regarding every single little detail, poking
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  Speaker 4: holes in each other's even Twitter posts. Now we know
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  Speaker 4: that the US has been hit by Hurricane Helene recently.
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  Speaker 4: One hundred and twenty people have lost their lives. Countless
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  Speaker 4: others are unaccounted for due to the terrible communications. They
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  Speaker 4: literally just don't have range on their phone out there
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  Speaker 4: at the moment. So the government is getting absolutely whacked
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  Speaker 4: for this, and Kamala is doing her best to make
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  Speaker 4: sure everyone knows they're at the helm, it's all under control.
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  Speaker 4: And to that end, she shared a picture of herself
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  Speaker 4: and what appears to be Air Force too. She captioned
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  Speaker 4: this saying, our administration will continue to stay in constant
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  Speaker 4: contact with state and local officials to ensure community have
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  Speaker 4: the support and resources they need. But you'll notice she's
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  Speaker 4: got the phone unplugged on the desk while having an
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  Speaker 4: ear piece in So Donald J. Trump jumped straight on
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  Speaker 4: Twitter and replied with this epithet. He said, another fake
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  Speaker 4: and stage photo from someone who has no clue what
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  Speaker 4: she is doing.
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  Speaker 6: You have to plug the cord.
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  Speaker 5: Into the phone for it to work.
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  Speaker 4: Biden and Harris abandoned Americans in Afghanistan. They have sacrificed
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  Speaker 4: Americans to an open border, and now they have left
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  Speaker 4: Americans to drown in North Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, and
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  Speaker 4: elsewhere in the South. Under this administration, Americans always come
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  Speaker 4: last because we have leaders who have no idea how
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  Speaker 4: to lead now. Biden, it bears mentioning was he stayed
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  Speaker 4: in Delaware the entire time, and while this hurricane was
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  Speaker 4: ravaging the States and copped a lot of heat for it,
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  Speaker 4: he did return to Washington to give this press address
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  Speaker 4: and again convince convince the country that not on He's
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  Speaker 4: still at the Helm and they're taking care of all
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  Speaker 4: of this.
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  Speaker 10: There's mat reports of over one hundred dead and consequence
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  Speaker 10: of the storm, and there are reports of up six
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  Speaker 10: hundred people on account for because they can't be contacted,
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  Speaker 10: God willing, they're alive, but there's no way to contact
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  Speaker 10: them again because of the lack of cell phone coverage.
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  Speaker 10: I've directed my team to provide every available resource as
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  Speaker 10: fast as possible to your communities.
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  Speaker 4: Every available recess except of course, the communications that people
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  Speaker 4: need on the ground to be able to contact each other.
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  Speaker 4: He was then asked as he left, why weren't you
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  Speaker 4: guys in Washington? Where were you guys while this hurricane
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  Speaker 4: was raging, leaving a trail of destructions to retaliate.
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  Speaker 5: I'm a hurricane is for president.
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  Speaker 2: Why weren't she and Vice President Harris Sar in Washington
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  Speaker 2: commanding this this weekend?
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  Speaker 10: I was committed, and I was on the phone for
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  Speaker 10: at least two hours yesterday and the day before as well.
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  Speaker 2: I command. It's called a telephone. It's all my security.
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  Speaker 3: It's a nonmordant populacy.
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  Speaker 6: I was delegating from Delaware. Why couldn't you.
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  Speaker 4: Tell us taking care of business from my beach house.
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  Speaker 4: Thank goodness, somebody is acting president, even if he isn't yet.
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  Speaker 4: Here's Trump on the ground in Georgia doing the actual
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  Speaker 4: work of a president in such a trauma state.
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  Speaker 11: And to the families and loved ones of those who
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  Speaker 11: have perished, with mourn alongside of you, and we grieve
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  Speaker 11: every single life so tragically lost. I'd like to now
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  Speaker 11: ask for a moment of silence and prayer, if you would,
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  Speaker 11: for those who have died.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, He's showing them up every chance, and with
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  Speaker 4: this administration, it's not hard well.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I was going to say it's unbelievable. It's
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  Speaker 3: entirely believable. Joe Biden has just totally checked out at
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  Speaker 3: the president. Oh yeah, since it was taken off in
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  Speaker 3: the candidacy, was taken off him. So there he is
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  Speaker 3: in the middle of a natural disaster at home in Delaware,
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  Speaker 3: sitting on.
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  Speaker 2: The b.
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  Speaker 9: Following the pattern of working from home in Austrica. But
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  Speaker 9: I've got to say, what Biden and Harris have done
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  Speaker 9: between them is they make Trump look really presidential. I
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  Speaker 9: mean he looked presidential. In behind him was Franklin Graham,
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  Speaker 9: the son of Billy Graham, who comes in on these
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  Speaker 9: situation because they have a rescue team and they come
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  Speaker 9: in and they help people in need. This was a
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  Speaker 9: man doing exactly what presidents do. The only person doing
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  Speaker 9: it is the only one looking like a president. Can
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  Speaker 9: we go back for a moment to that still of
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  Speaker 9: Kamala Harris on the plane. Can you find that that still?
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  Speaker 9: Put that up on the screen, because there's something else
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  Speaker 9: you need to notice.
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  Speaker 1: Ye have a look.
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  Speaker 9: Not only is the phone not connected, it's all blank paper.
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  Speaker 1: That tells what you need to know.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I reckon that ear piece is actually plugged in.
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  Speaker 3: It's just plugged into the people who are telling her
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  Speaker 3: what to say while she's on the phone. She's got
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  Speaker 3: her master's in area telling you what to do. Every
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  Speaker 3: time something like this happens, and they seem to happen
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  Speaker 3: with alarming regularity, whether it be in American politics or
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  Speaker 3: Australian politics. Of all the people who are employed particularly,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, forget about how many advisors whatever you have
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  Speaker 3: in an Australian Prime minister's office. The number of advisors
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  Speaker 3: specifically working on media who sit in the President's office
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  Speaker 3: and the Vice president's office is enormous. How does no
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  Speaker 3: one look at that photo and go, oh, hang on
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  Speaker 3: a minute, you've got a problem.
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  Speaker 1: It looks like tell you why.
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  Speaker 9: The answer is found in the answer to this question, Gayla,
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  Speaker 9: what's the difference between Kamala Harrison artificial intelligence?
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  Speaker 1: Well, she's only artificial.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to.
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  Speaker 3: Say, artificial intelligence actually has some intelligence. I mean, Trump
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  Speaker 3: might have had a point the other day when he
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  Speaker 3: suggested that she's not entirely all up there when it
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  Speaker 3: comes to these sorts of.
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  Speaker 2: Things that all right, but it's just awful to think.
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  Speaker 2: And she has said.
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  Speaker 3: Camala said, I can't go down to Georgia right now
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  Speaker 3: because it would be a distraction and I would get
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  Speaker 3: in the way of the work being done on the
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  Speaker 3: ground by the emergency. She cares, I seriously, it's not
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  Speaker 3: like I was going to say, it's quite comparable. And
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  Speaker 3: remember when Scott Morrison was over in Hawaii during bush
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  Speaker 3: fires here in this country, going back four odd years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Now will Joe Biden there?
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  Speaker 3: He is holidaying in Delaware, back home on the beach,
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  Speaker 3: while natural disasters are unravaging and unraveling, and all he
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  Speaker 3: can say is, you know what a phone is. I've
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: got the phone that we're going while we're talking about
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  Speaker 3: US politics. Of course, tomorrow will be the vice presidential
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  Speaker 3: debate between JD.
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  Speaker 2: Vance and Tim Waltz.
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  Speaker 3: You can watch it right here on Sky News from
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  Speaker 3: eleven am Australian Eastern daylight time. And I think, kel
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  Speaker 3: this is going to be a really important debate, more
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  Speaker 3: important than the debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris,
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  Speaker 3: because that just turned out to be a vanity project,
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  Speaker 3: basically for Kamala to say, well, here here, I actually am.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, Trump is staring down the barrel of
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  Speaker 3: being eighty and so there is of course the possibility,
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  Speaker 3: much like Biden, that he could carget while he's.
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  Speaker 2: In office, and in that case JD.
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  Speaker 3: Vance could potentially be the next president of the United States.
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  Speaker 3: And so he has the opportunity tomorrow to say, well,
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  Speaker 3: I am the guy not only who's got a hand
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  Speaker 3: on Trump's shoulder to keep him in line, if that's
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  Speaker 3: what you're worried about, but I am a potential future president.
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  Speaker 3: I suspect he will wipe the floor with Tim Watz
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  Speaker 3: because he is a great orator and a good debate
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  Speaker 3: and he's.
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  Speaker 1: Been preparing well.
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  Speaker 9: The way he's been preparing is using something called murder boards.
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  Speaker 1: Have you heard the expression murder boards?
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  Speaker 2: I hadn't until today. It sounds a bit concerning.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 9: It's where a panel of people sit up in front
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  Speaker 9: of him and ask him the hardest questions they can
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  Speaker 9: think of, and really grill him and throw things at him.
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  Speaker 9: Murder board is an expression born in the American Army.
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  Speaker 9: Goes back to nineteen forty four, and originally a murder
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  Speaker 9: board was any promotions board or anything like that. Because
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  Speaker 9: the soldiers hated them and they regarded them as Absolutely
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  Speaker 9: you've got.
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  Speaker 2: A promotion because the other boat got popped off.
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  Speaker 9: But anyway, but it's a lovely expression. We've now learned,
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  Speaker 9: know it's the wordsmith in me. We've learned a new expression.
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  Speaker 1: Murder board. I think it's wonderful.
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  Speaker 9: But what it means is he's actually working hard at
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  Speaker 9: being prepared and doing the really tough stuff.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: He's got a very good mind.
• 17:56
  Speaker 9: He needs to convince them that at forty he would
• 17:59
  Speaker 9: be the youngest president of the United States, even younger
• 18:01
  Speaker 9: than John F.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Kennedy.
• 18:02
  Speaker 9: So he needs to persuade them. I've got the smarts
• 18:05
  Speaker 9: to be able to do this.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: What do you expect will see tomorrow, Liz Befo.
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: It will be a blood bath.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: It ought to be a bloodbath.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: But Tim Waltz, I mean, you know, we've seen her
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: do that interview with Kamala Harris where he essentially held
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: her hand his stick.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Seems to be the whole dad thing. You know. I'm
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: just a knock about sort of lad. I don't know
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: that that's going to play well in it.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: No, especially not up against JD. Vance, because like you say,
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: he is a great orator. He's very well spoken and
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: he's no stranger to debates. So this is I genuinely
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: think we'll see JD. Vans eat Tim Waltz alive because
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Tim Waltz is like this bumbling dad like figure and JD.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Vance has been a politician for a long time now
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: and he knows his stuff. And also it's very poor
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: timing for Waltz because most and you won't hear any
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: questions about this tomorrow. I don't believe he's had some
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: concerns raised by an oversight committee regarding his ties to
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: the Chinese Communist Party, so.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: Very bad timing.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: Whistleblower allegations against him have tied him to the CCP,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: the oversight the House Oversight Committee has subpoened the Department
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: of Homeland Security after an internal employee group chat raised
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: quote serious concerns, So they're digging into that. It's making
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: headlines in the US again. There'll be softball questions tomorrow
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: night at the debate because CBS is moderating it.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: So it's Fox, isn't it.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: I think it's on Fox, so it should actually be
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: half a decent gun.
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: It is CBS, and can I say all that stuff
• 19:50
  Speaker 9: about Wolves. It could be a distraction. I think Vance
• 19:53
  Speaker 9: has got to be careful about this.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: There.
• 19:55
  Speaker 9: Wolves has told a whole lot of lies about his
• 19:57
  Speaker 9: military service, but the rank he achieved Williams in combat,
• 20:01
  Speaker 9: a whole lot of things like that, And the temptation
• 20:04
  Speaker 9: would be to go at Walsh and nail him on
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: all these lives. I think Vance has got to be
• 20:09
  Speaker 9: there nailing Harris. She's the presidential candidate. He's got to
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: keep drilling Waltz about how this woman who is clearly
• 20:17
  Speaker 9: incompetent and all she can do is giggle nicely. However,
• 20:21
  Speaker 9: how she could ever be the leader of the free
• 20:23
  Speaker 9: world and the commander in chief.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: That's what he's got to push, the Harris line.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I think. I'm not sure how I came to think
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: it was on Fox. It must have been wishful thinking.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: The Harris's campaign would never allow sure moderating.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be great to actually see them face They wouldn't.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: Friendly's just so balling their way through the entire thing
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: and causing Americans to your nationwide, no doubt to the
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: UK now where Boris Johnson's new book is set to
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: come out on October ten, so very soon.
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: Don't rush to your book shelves.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: There's so many spoilers in the headlines already you barely
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: need to read the book. You've got the best bits already. Surprisingly,
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: he's chosen.
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: This book to reveal that he believed the Queen to.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: Have bone cancer before she passed away. Now, of course
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: this has I believe rightly gotten a lot of censure
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: from people because this is something so inappropriate to reveal.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: In your memoirs.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: This is something that, if true, the Palace would have
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: taken great pains to ensure that her personal private health
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: matters were hers alone. And he decides just to drop
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: this on the world at large in a book that's
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: supposed to be about his time in the PM's chair.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I think it's frankly pathetic.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, Boris Johnson is going back to his days
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: as a journalist here, right, that's what he was before
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: he was a politician. But when you are a journalist,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: you know that certain things are off the record. I mean,
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: someone says to you, look, I'm telling you this off
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: the record, So you either don't reveal that information, or
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: there is a way to reveal that information.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Because they've told it to you.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Because they want you to reveal it without revealing what
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: the source is. It is well known that when you
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: have discussions with the firm as they call it in
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: the UK, which is the royal family, that is all
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: off the record. Boris Johnson is trying to sell books
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: here by revealing information that he has no right to reveal.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: And I can't believe that he would think he would
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: get away with it. I mean, if there is anyone
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: in the world beyond the UK that is beloved, it
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: is the Queen.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Yes. And to reveal.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Personal, private medical information about the Queen, he says he
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: you for a year before her death that she had
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: bone cancer.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I think is a low.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Act and we don't need to know and we don't want.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: To It was none of our business.
• 22:57
  Speaker 9: And we say rest in peace, we mean rest in police.
• 22:59
  Speaker 9: But he's other stuff in the book as well. He's
• 23:01
  Speaker 9: got a story in the book that he was recruited
• 23:04
  Speaker 9: by the Palace to talk to Harry to try to
• 23:07
  Speaker 9: persuade Harry not to leave the UK. So he had
• 23:10
  Speaker 9: this manly chat, you know, manu amanu with Harry. But
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: the Palace has now come out and said no, no,
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: we gave him no such commission. No such thing happened.
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: I mean, you did say very quickly in passing. He's
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: trying to sell books, and it's fairly obvious he's trying
• 23:28
  Speaker 9: to sell books. That's what it's all about. He's not
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: being employed as a journalist anywhere. He's lost his political employment,
• 23:38
  Speaker 9: so he needs this to sell well. And he's had
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: a look at Spare and he's thought, I can do
• 23:42
  Speaker 9: as well as that. I can spill that sort of
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: stuff you know, that will sell a million copies. I'll
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: be okay, I'll be able to buy the bigger country house,
• 23:50
  Speaker 9: all that sort of thing.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: But it is the blokenose scruples.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, sorry, I am, and I say this
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: as a journalist former reported myself.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: You know, journalists and.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Titians probably rank up there with used car sales real
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: estate agents when it comes to public perception.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: But you know, does the blowcoats have no scruples to go?
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Oh look, I should probably leave that bit out of
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: the book about the queen, for heaven's sake.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I just cannot get over it.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: And he continues in this book he's crapping all over
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: everyone he can possibly find, including his replacement as prime minister,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: who of course was Rishi Sunak, and he says he
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: was basically assassinated by Rishi Sunak, which you know is
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: a bit of hyperbole.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: But again, he's got to sell books.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: I suppose, he writes in his new memoirle as I
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: read his resignation letter that Sunaki's talking about with its
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: laden phrasers, I murmured, at least internally, the dying words
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: of Julius Caesar kaisu technon, which is Latin for you
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: two child. If Caesar had twenty three stab wounds from
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: his assassins, I ended up with sixty two, in the
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: sense that a grant total of sixty ministers. Sorry, decided
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: to follow Sage and Rishi out the door. That, in
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: the end, was why I had to go. I could
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: still have built a government. I had enough straw to
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: make my bricks. I mean, the bloke can't let go.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: You've got me.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Were deposed as prime minister, make Shulak ended up replacing you,
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: and here he is trying to rewrite history.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I could have held on. I could have held on.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: He's even gone so far as to suggest that if
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: he was leading the Tories at the election a few
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: months ago, three months ago, then.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: He would have retained government. I mean, is the bloke
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: properly delusion ego. I have liked Boris Johnson for a
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: long time.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: He is alike and I was I was glad.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: When he became Prime minister.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: But I think, like a lot of conservative leaders, including
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: ones here in our country, he turned out to be
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: a squibby, signed up to every green policy he could find.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: And now he's trying to tell us, oh no, if
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: they just left me in charge, it all would have
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: been fine given.
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: And trying to blame Rishi for this.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, he literally writes of Rishi's resignation, it was
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: worse than a crime. It was a mistake both for
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: Rishi and for the.
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: Party, never mind the country.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: So now it's Rishi's fault that the country has fallen
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: into the Labor Party's hands.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: It's entirely Reshie's fault.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: If he hadn't walked out the door, the others wouldn't.
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: Rishi led the.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Charge according to this grand narrative that he's selling here,
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: and were it.
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: Not for him, he could still be Prime minister.
• 26:39
  Speaker 9: There's a very simple message that is running through all
• 26:42
  Speaker 9: of this. Boris Johnson is looking at us really seriously
• 26:45
  Speaker 9: with his serious face and saying I am important, I
• 26:48
  Speaker 9: am very important. Take me very seriously, because Boris is
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: very impressed by Boris. If Shakespeare was alive, he would
• 26:55
  Speaker 9: write a play about me.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, genuinely believe that there's probably a line about
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: it in his book. But while Boris Johnson is paying
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: out on Rishi Sunak, the polls in the UK are
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: telling us that people in England very much miss Rishi Sunak.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: Kirsama has only been PM since July, and yet in
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: three short months his popularity has plummeted. A survey by
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: think tank More in Common shows the Labor government is
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: already less light than the previous Tory one, despite taking
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: power less than three months ago. The poll of two
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: thousand and eighty adults showed that thirty one percent preferred
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: mister Sunak's government, while twenty nine percent preferred.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: The current one. It goes on.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: The Prime Minister's net approval rating with More in Common
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: has now fallen to minus twenty seven percent, down thirty
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: eight points from when.
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: Labor took office.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: It is a stark contrast to the reception that Sir
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Tony Blair received in a similar point for following his.
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: Own landslide in nineteen ninety seven, when.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: It was reported his net score was as high as
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: ninety three percent.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: Wow, how popular can you get?
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: But this has got to.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Set a record for pummeting popularity within your first three months.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 28:18
  Speaker 9: This is an embodiment of up like a up, like
• 28:21
  Speaker 9: a fire, working down like a stick in a minute.
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: It has it is an embodyment. But I think there's
• 28:26
  Speaker 9: a real reason for this, and it's because he sold himself.
• 28:30
  Speaker 9: Keir Starmer sold himself really heavily as a centrist, just
• 28:34
  Speaker 9: a bit left of center and not a lot of
• 28:36
  Speaker 9: policies and safe hands.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: That's what they're doing.
• 28:40
  Speaker 9: I mean, I have to say our own Prime Minister,
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: Anthony Albertiez, he did the same thing. I'm just a
• 28:44
  Speaker 9: bit left of center. I know I belonged to the
• 28:46
  Speaker 9: socialist left for many years, but now I'm just a
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: bit left of center and Albi and I can remember
• 28:50
  Speaker 9: Kevin Rudd. I'm just going to be a younger better
• 28:53
  Speaker 9: John Howard. Safe pair of hands, that's what they do.
• 28:56
  Speaker 9: And he did the same thing. He's in office. He's
• 28:58
  Speaker 9: now taken them to the hard left with a whole
• 29:00
  Speaker 9: lot of looney, hard left policies. That's not what they
• 29:03
  Speaker 9: voted for. That's why these sorts of numbers turn up.
• 29:06
  Speaker 9: That is the game the left of politics now plays
• 29:10
  Speaker 9: is we know no one loves the left of politics
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: except all the university students.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: No one else does.
• 29:16
  Speaker 9: Consequently, we've got to pretend to be something else and
• 29:20
  Speaker 9: then govern the Wobie Water government.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: That's what they're doing.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: It's possibly the greatest case of buyer's remorse I've ever
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: seen in entire life. You know, they say that the
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: people never get never get it wrong when it comes.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: To elections, but I think they've got it.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Pretty bloody wrong here by their own acknowledgment. And of
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: course Sir Kirs Starmer has not had an easy start
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: to his prime ministership, which is mostly of his own making,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: and he lost a labor m P went to the
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: cross bench on the weekend after all these allegations they're
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: not allegations. All this free stuff that he was taking
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: as Prime minister while preaching about how you know, we're
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: going to be an egalitarian government and we're standing up
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: for the working man, etc.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: He's taking donations of you know, free trips to the.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: All clothing, all sorts of stuff, thousands and thousands of
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: pounds that have come to light, and he's not taken
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: that very well.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: They're now calling him free gear Kia in the UK, and.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Then before that, of course, they were calling him two
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: tier Kia because shortly after the Prime Minister, you had
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: riots across the country after the killing of a number
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: of children, which was initially reported online as to have
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: been committed by a young refugee. He didn't turn out
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: to be refugees parents were migrants originally, but that caused
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: all of these riots across the UK, and you saw
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: the police cracking down on people who were essentially trying
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: to defend their country, saying, look, we've got a problem
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: with migration here that's been ignored for years and years
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: and years. The police cracked down on them. But meanwhile
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: the counter protests, which were just as numerous as the
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: others from Muslims getting around in the UK fighting back
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: against it, well they were just allowed.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: To let go. Essentially, it was the two tierke policing system.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: He's had a terrible run of it.
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: So far, he really has.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: And now his government has come up with this operation
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: to empty prisons of actual criminals in there doing time
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: in order to free up prison space because they're completely
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: full in the UK, so that they can put some
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: of these rioters in there.
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: Because he was.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: Gracing the headlines every day saying we will crack down
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: on these protesters with the full force of the law,
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: he meant business. The courts were then working over time
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: trying to process hundreds of protesters who had been arrested.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: There was nowhere to put them in the meantime, and
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: they are genuinely now releasing criminals before their time is
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: done in order to cram these protesters into the prisons.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: It's been an absolute shoust muzzle and I think you're
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: quite right Kelln saying he sold himself as one thing
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: and very quickly became another, because I still remember his
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: inaugural speech as Prime Minister, and he genuinely said he
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: spoke of small government. He said I want to be
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: out of your lives as much as possible. And then
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: if you were watching last week, he stood up at
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: the first Labor conference as Prime Minister and said the
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: exact opposite. He was talking about big government.
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: He was saying, we want to.
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: Be more in control of your lives.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: He used the word controlled and uncontrolled fifteen times in
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: a rather short speech, and it gave off a completely
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: completely different idea of the government. That the UK had
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: been sold and went to the polls believing what they
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: were going to get.
• 32:47
  Speaker 9: What it makes there's a very interesting figure. There's another
• 32:50
  Speaker 9: figure we haven't quoted yet from the survey. Remember he
• 32:53
  Speaker 9: won in our landslide, massive landslipe FO one hundred and
• 32:56
  Speaker 9: eleven I think out of the six hundred and thirty
• 32:58
  Speaker 9: six huge landslide, big win and that was really only
• 33:01
  Speaker 9: months ago. Effectively, this survey says now twenty one percent
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: of the people surveyed think he'll win the next election.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: One in five. Now that's a crash from a landslide.
• 33:13
  Speaker 9: And it tells me that who the Conservatives settle on
• 33:16
  Speaker 9: as their leader is now vitally important. It's got to
• 33:20
  Speaker 9: be someone good, it's got to becoming Badanock or someone
• 33:23
  Speaker 9: who was really conservative and really intelligent, really courageous and
• 33:27
  Speaker 9: really articulate.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: And because there's a.
• 33:30
  Speaker 9: Good chance this, like the Albaneze government, may turn out
• 33:34
  Speaker 9: to be a one term government.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Not impossible.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Something tells me, Liz that the British people might actually
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: prefer a sausage to be running the UK right now.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know if not everyone will get that reference.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: When Kirs Starmer was at the Labor Conference last week,
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: he famously said in his spit speech that the UK
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: called upon the Power that be for a cease firing
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Gaza and to bring the sausages home, a line that
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: will no doubt haunt him for the rest of his life,
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: and he was duly roasted online, as he should be,
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: for such a terrible slip up to the UN Assembly
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: now where a week ago they passed their new Pack
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: for the Future, which is basically a New World Order
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: by another name. You would have heard of Agenda twenty thirty.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: Many Western countries are implementing it right under our noses.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: And I bet you didn't know that. The UN just
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: went right ahead at their General Assembly and pasted it
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: without your knowledge. We don't get a say in these things,
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: but then of course.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: You hear about them for years on end.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: The Paris Accords, this treaty, this thing that you agreed
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: to at the UN, and they bashes with.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: It for years on end. This is going to be
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: no different.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: And this one is one of those multifaceted type packs
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: that will literally impact every area of anybody's life, especially
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: in the Western world, because where the ones that seem
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: to take these packs so seriously. And again, nobody got
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: a vote, nobody would even be aware that they've done this,
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: but they've just gone right ahead and implemented it.
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: This forty two page patch.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: You can read it.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: I really encourage you to do so. It's just frightening
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: how these guys operate. Nobody elected them, They just get together.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: They make decisions on behalf of all of us. And
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: here you have not only more green policies, but what
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: is literally ushering in I believe to be a new
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: world order.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Well, they're essentially saying we've got to go faster towards
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: the Paris Accords. They're coming up with rules now that
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: allow governments to share information with each other about what
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: they deem to be, you know, major crimes. Now the
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: government themselves gets to deem what is a major crime,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: and this gives them access to information that is held
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: in governments that would otherwise be secret or private. Journalists
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: across the world, including the US, have said, hang on
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: a minute, this is a threat to free speech. It
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: is a threat to the free press, and Antonio Guterres,
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: the General Secretary of the UN, said that this packed
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: kell was because the whole point of the UN was
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: in a dire straight like the UN was basically losing
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: its metal because as we know, it's failed in the
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: one job that was set up to do, which was
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: to stop global conflict. Well, there's plenty of global conflict
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: going on right now. People were saying, hang on a minute,
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: that the UN's in a bit of trouble here. So
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: they come up with a pack to say, hang on
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: to revive the UN, we actually need more power.
• 36:45
  Speaker 9: They are not doing what they were set up to do.
• 36:48
  Speaker 9: Australia's Clive Effort was involved in setting up the United Nations.
• 36:51
  Speaker 9: It was just after the Second World War, late nineteen forties,
• 36:54
  Speaker 9: and the purpose was exactly what you said, to stop
• 36:56
  Speaker 9: that kind of global conflict, to stop warsters. And in
• 37:00
  Speaker 9: a lot of ways they've done well. They've sent in
• 37:02
  Speaker 9: peacekeeping forces, the famous Blue Berets. And what's happening in
• 37:06
  Speaker 9: southern Leblon now is a United Nations failure because there
• 37:10
  Speaker 9: was a United Nations resolution saying Hesbela was to stay
• 37:14
  Speaker 9: north of the Latani River. That's a resolution of this organization.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: The UN.
• 37:19
  Speaker 9: And then they set in a United Nations peacekeeping force
• 37:22
  Speaker 9: of Blue Berets to patrol that area on the Israeli border,
• 37:26
  Speaker 9: on the Lebanese side, to make sure it happened. The
• 37:29
  Speaker 9: Hezbollah came back again and they just as they infiltrated
• 37:34
  Speaker 9: back again and filled that area and brought their arms
• 37:37
  Speaker 9: back in. What did the UN peacekeepers do the people
• 37:40
  Speaker 9: in the Blue berets Nothing, well, nothing at all. That
• 37:44
  Speaker 9: is a UN failure. This is a pointless US activity.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: And as we warned you right throughout COVID, once they
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: get a taste of the power that COVID gave them,
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: they will do absolutely everything they can to hang on
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: to it. And that is exactly what they're doing now.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: After the break, we'll get into the papers. Would you
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: buy power from Stephen Miles if he knocked at your door?
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly what it wants you to do.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: If he wins government again, unlikely, but he's going to
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: give it a shot.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: We'll get into that more. Welcome back.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Let's get into the papers, starting with the Mercury tomorrow
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: where it says tas own way on vape law new
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: vaping laws across most states and territories came into effect yesterday,
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: that is today, because of course it's tomorrow's paper. But
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: those rules will not apply in Tasmania and Western Australia
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: from October one. Certain e cigarette products can be brought
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: over the counter at pharmacies in other parts of Australia
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: without a prescription. But it goes on to say that
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: the Public Health Director in Tasmania is quoted saying, despite
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: changes elsewhere, Tasmania is retaining the current requirements for the
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: buying and selling of e cigarette products.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Now, these rules were just.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Sort of nonsense to begin with, because of the federal
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: government thought it would be a smart idea to ban
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: the sale of vapes altogether, which is allowed an legal
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: market to go bunter, and of course all of that
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: money ends up in the hands of organized crime games
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: that they then use to murder and rape and traffic
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: and all this sort of stuff that they do. But
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: you've got a federal law, okay. Now, surely, however bad
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: the federal law might be, it ought to be respected
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: by the states because at the very least they've said, okay,
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: you can now go into a pharmacy and I know
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: the pharmacies don't want it, but you can go into
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: a pharmacy and get a vape without a prescription, which
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: means that if you are a vapor you don't have
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: to go to a dodgy tobacconist and buy an illegal
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: vape that's come from China. That leads to money going
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: to organized crime. So these states Tasmania and Western Australia,
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: in their infinite wisdom Liz, have said, no, let's make
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: sure more money remains in the hands of organized crime
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: games because the only place you'll still be able to
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: buy a vape is in an illegal shop.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Make it make sense?
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: I can't.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: I can't make sense of any of this.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't know why they're bothering to do this
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: at all. I harghly suspect it's because they haven't been
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: able to figure out how to make as much money
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: off fates as they have off the tobacco in thestree
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: because that's still not banned, is it No, because then
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: the government would be out of pocket to the tune
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: of billions of dollars every single year. So they rather
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: like that industry, even though they own that it is
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: very detrimental to many people's health and puts a massive
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: weight on our health system.
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: But here we have a product that they still can't tell.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: Us why it is bad, and I, for the life
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: of me, still don't understand the lack of research about this,
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: because all they're trying to do now is tell predominantly
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: young people vatees are bad.
• 40:42
  Speaker 8: But there's nothing to back that up.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's a cocktail of chemicals. Okay, what are the stats,
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: Show me a pie chart, show me anything. And yet
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: they've not been able to produce that, and they're churning
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: out legislation.
• 40:55
  Speaker 9: No, no, no, no, There is a reason, and the
• 40:57
  Speaker 9: reason is it contains nicotine. Nicotine has two properties. One
• 41:01
  Speaker 9: is it's highly addictive. It hits the same parts of
• 41:04
  Speaker 9: the brain that erin hits. The other is nicotine actually
• 41:07
  Speaker 9: attacks the internal walls of the arteries. So the reason
• 41:10
  Speaker 9: why smokers often lose limbs and things like that, because
• 41:14
  Speaker 9: they have lots of blood clots, is because that's what
• 41:17
  Speaker 9: nicotine does. So they put flavorings in and various other
• 41:21
  Speaker 9: things in. But they're putting nicotine in a because it
• 41:24
  Speaker 9: gets the users halked. They want them to come back
• 41:26
  Speaker 9: and back and back and b they don't care about
• 41:28
  Speaker 9: what happens to their bodies in the meantime. So there
• 41:30
  Speaker 9: is a reason. I don't think anyone's explained it, Liz,
• 41:34
  Speaker 9: but there is a reason behind this.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: But in the UK they actually the NHS gives them
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: out for free to people. They did it off get
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: off the cigarettes right because.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: They acknowledge that it's less bad cigarets.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: But the reality is people are going to vape just
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: like people are going to smoke. But you can walk
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: into the supermarket and buy a packet of daries, no problems.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: And if you want to go and get a.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Vape which is on all the available evidence less damaging
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: to your health, they got to go and buy it
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: from a bikey or a pharmacy.
• 42:05
  Speaker 9: Can I just say that is the most attention given
• 42:07
  Speaker 9: to the Hobart Mercury for all long.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: We do. We do, and it's a lovely place, I've
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: got to tell you.
• 42:14
  Speaker 9: But on the front page of the Herald Sun tomorrow
• 42:17
  Speaker 9: in Melbourne is the story which will be on the
• 42:18
  Speaker 9: front page of a lot of newspapers today about racism
• 42:22
  Speaker 9: systemic at the ABC. The story by our own Sophie
• 42:26
  Speaker 9: Olsworth says ABC staff have been subjected to systemic racism,
• 42:30
  Speaker 9: including racial slurs, derogatory and offensive comments about their appearance,
• 42:35
  Speaker 9: stereotyping and being mistaken for someone else because of their
• 42:39
  Speaker 9: racial appearance, and explosive new reporters found, prompting an apology
• 42:44
  Speaker 9: to staff by managing director David Anderson. I spent can
• 42:49
  Speaker 9: I admit this because I'm in this company.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: It may be really bad.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: This is a safe space.
• 42:53
  Speaker 9: I actually worked for the ABC for twenty five years.
• 42:57
  Speaker 9: It was a younger KEL and it was a long
• 42:59
  Speaker 9: time ago, was quite a different ABC, and we worked
• 43:04
  Speaker 9: with people from all racists and everyone were just mate.
• 43:07
  Speaker 9: I think the reason they've got this report is they
• 43:10
  Speaker 9: went to a racist organization and said find racism, and
• 43:13
  Speaker 9: blow and behold they found racism.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: That's their job when they do the server.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Why would the abacy want to find it?
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Because stupid? They're stupid on you know.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: They say, don't ask a question unless you.
• 43:24
  Speaker 9: Know they've decided how far can we go down stupid street?
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Well haven't got far enough.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: But doesn't it prove once again that the great virtuous
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: ABC is not as virtuous as we all think that is.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, I've made this argument for so long, and
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: they did a survey as well on sexism and misogyny
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: in whatever it is back in July and came back
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: and found that people were being sexually harassed all over
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: the shop. Moreever, I've made this argument before about quote
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: unquote male feminists that men who say they are feminists
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: usually turn out to be the most misogynistic of all
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: because they have this sort of patronizing view about women,
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: and they get really upset when women don't ignore that.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: They say that they're famous, and it's exactly the same here.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: They're like, we're the most white people in the world.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: We think everyone of every race is great. In fact,
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: we want to put you up on a pedestal. And
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: then when a black person walks into the newsroom and says,
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: hang on a minute, you've just.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Got that story entirely wrong.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: While you're a this, you're that what they don't like
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: being talked down to.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: You would have thought by now after the previous survey
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: that you referred to, which found a quarter of the
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: employees at the National Broadcaster said that they'd experienced bullying
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: at work. Thirteen percent of them said they'd been sexually
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: harassed over the last two years. See can you shall
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: find ABC. If you keep doing these internal surveys, especially
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: amongst the type of people that they.
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: Would be employing, you're.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: Going to find a heck of a lot of what
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: you're looking for. To the front page of the Courier,
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: Mail Now Exclusive Premiere promises you publicly owned energy retailers
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: People's Power. The splash reads state would compete against itself.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: A re elected labor government would set up a state
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: owned electricity retailer to effectively compete against itself in a
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: bid to make power bills cheaper. Premier Stephen Miles will
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: use the second full day of the election campaign to
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: unveil plans for the new statewide retailer tasks with taking
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: on publicly owned Ergon in the regions. It's simple people
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: before profits, mister Miles said, that's my guarantee to Queenslanders.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: The guy talks as if you're not responsible for the
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: extortionate power prices in Queensland.
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: He's like, I'm gonna fix it. You created it.
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: This is the state that's got the worst power prices
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: in the country.
• 45:54
  Speaker 9: And also it's the state that owns ERGON. I know,
• 45:57
  Speaker 9: why doesn't he just call up the forward of Ergon
• 46:00
  Speaker 9: say we own you, we are the boss.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: You reduce the prices.
• 46:04
  Speaker 9: Why is he setting up another organization? It makes no
• 46:07
  Speaker 9: sense whatsoever.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: It's an answer in search of a problem, isn't it.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Of course the problem is Stephen Miles, and we won't
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: have time to get to it. But he is saying
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: on the front of the Olds tomorrow, but if he
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: ends up in minority.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: He do a deal with the Greens.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: He's about the only labor leader who's ever said it.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: And well, let's see how that goes for him.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: After the break.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Paris Fashion Week is currently on and you know me,
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: I like my fashion, as do we all hear on
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: the late debate.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Well, this isn't quite to that taste. We'll show you
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: that after this.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: Now, of course, you can catch me at every fashion
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: show in town. It is exactly the place you would
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: expect to find me. And I was thinking about going
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: to Paris this year for fashion week, because why the
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: hell not? Kel I thought you were going to join me,
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: but you pulled out at the last minute because you
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: saw what was going to be on show.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I've got a reason.
• 46:55
  Speaker 9: My wife has got a really good taste and dresses
• 46:57
  Speaker 9: exceptionally well and I showed her some of thee have
• 47:00
  Speaker 9: a look at this. This is what's happening at the
• 47:02
  Speaker 9: Paris Fashion Show this year, and you won't see it
• 47:05
  Speaker 9: on the course o at. Mainly, it'd be really nice
• 47:17
  Speaker 9: if you'd come back with a clever comment. But all
• 47:19
  Speaker 9: you could do when you see that is laugh. You've
• 47:20
  Speaker 9: got to say to yourself, are these people who are
• 47:22
  Speaker 9: half witch? Or are they unhinged? Or possibly are they both?
• 47:26
  Speaker 9: This is not clothing.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: Anyone in the audience keep a straight face, That's what
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: I want to know.
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: I mean, this is Paris Fashion Week.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: Everyone travels from around the world to witness the esteemed
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: heights of fashion and that's what they're met with. But
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: before we leave you tonight, quickly to Melbourne where a
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: gender reveal given a very very let's say unique version.
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: A dad decided to take.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: It into his own hands to let everyone know what
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: he was having and climb behind the wheel and get.
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: A massive burnout. Check this out.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: If you live in carm Down's in Melbourne, you're probably
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: familiar with those roadmarks now. But who was reported to
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: the police who have now charged him for this?
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Oh MEI on the road. What do you think is
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: going to happen?
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: You go and do big burnouts with big blue smoke,
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: So no one's going to take any notice of that. Ay,
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: and it's filmed and ends up online as if he.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Wasn't going to end up in front of the coppers.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: But I got to say he got what he deserved.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: That is karma coming for that blow.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: Because as far as I'm concerned, Kell, these gender reveals
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: are so crings.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they should be left in the bin.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:57
  Speaker 9: I come from a generation that never did that sort
• 48:59
  Speaker 9: of thing. I mean, it was meant to be a
• 49:00
  Speaker 9: surprise for all the friends and relatives. Gender reveals are nonsense,
• 49:04
  Speaker 9: And this is going to be a boy. He'll grow
• 49:06
  Speaker 9: up to be that sort of driver.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: And that's not good luck to him when he goes
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: to get e license. That's it from us tonight. App
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Nix's the riad of handing joke with that