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Brad Owens - Embracing Gratitude and Curiosity as a Dad · Quarterback DadCast | Intentional Fatherhood & Leadership at Home

• 0:03
  Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Riley and I'm Ryder, and this is my dad show.
• 0:12
  Speaker 3: Hey everybody, it's Casey Jaycox.
• 0:14
  Speaker 3: Welcome to the quarterback dad cast.
• 0:15
  Speaker 3: Thank you for tuning in today, and let me tell you a little bit about why I started this podcast five years ago, which is hard to believe.
• 0:21
  Speaker 3: That's how long we've been doing this thing and it's so fun.
• 0:24
  Speaker 3: But the goal of this was to help dads learn, laugh, shed some tears, but share a story, because as fathers, we all want to help prepare our kids for what's next.
• 0:33
  Speaker 3: We want to help them be better than we were.
• 0:35
  Speaker 3: We want to help them enter the professional world to thrive at each stage of their life.
• 0:39
  Speaker 3: So guests of this show are teachers, coaches, professional athletes, consultants, business owners, authors but who cares?
• 0:46
  Speaker 3: Because the most important job that each of them have is they are dads and on all these episodes they're going to share openly about failure, success, laughter, even sadness, so that we all can learn from each other.
• 0:57
  Speaker 3: So I ask you to tune in, share this episode, share a past episode, but continue to listen and support us so we can continue to keep sharing episodes of the Quarterback Dadcast.
• 1:12
  Speaker 3: Now let's get to today's episode.
• 1:14
  Speaker 3: Well, hey everybody, it's Casey Jaycox with the Quarterback Dadcast.
• 1:15
  Speaker 3: We are in season five of this amazing journey of talking to so many dads, and today we are in for another treat, a gentleman who I met through the wide world of entrepreneurship and someone who I really respect.
• 1:26
  Speaker 3: He is not only just a talented individual that came from the staffing consulting industry, but he also is an executive now at the amazing company called Assemble, where he's doing unbelievable work in the world of Salesforce, which we'll learn all about.
• 1:41
  Speaker 3: He's a Virginia Cavalier, I learned about that.
• 1:44
  Speaker 3: He might be a Guardians or Indians fan, however, you'll learn all about.
• 1:48
  Speaker 3: He's a Virginia Cavalier, I learned about that.
• 1:49
  Speaker 3: He might be a Guardians or Indians fan, however you want to say it.
• 1:51
  Speaker 3: Sorry if I offended anybody, didn't mean to.
• 1:52
  Speaker 3: But, more importantly, we're going to talk to Brad Owens, the dad, and how he's working hard to become that ultimate quarterback or leader of his household.
• 1:57
  Speaker 3: So, without further ado, mr Owens, welcome to the Quarterback Dadcast.
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: Thanks, man.
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: Congrats on five seasons.
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: That's a big deal.
• 2:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, me and Ron Burgundy, we have a lot in common.
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: We have many leather-bound books and our office smells of rich mahogany Nice.
• 2:12
  Speaker 3: Depending on which office you're in, right, yeah, well, yeah, I'm in a remote location.
• 2:16
  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm getting scoliosis how I'm interviewing but the people at home?
• 2:18
  Speaker 3: You can't see it, so don't even worry about it, I'll power through it.
• 2:21
  Speaker 3: Um, all right, brother, we always start each episode with gratitude, so tell me, what are you most grateful for as a dad today?
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: right now that I get to be able to experience my kids experiencing what they love like.
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: They are such very different kids, but watching them get to enjoy the things that they very much have created their own niche into is just absolutely thrilling for me.
• 2:46
  Speaker 2: So, from a dad's perspective, that's absolutely what I'm grateful for right now.
• 2:51
  Speaker 3: Fantastic.
• 2:51
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 2:52
  Speaker 3: We are recording in July and today is the day of actually July 3rd.
• 2:58
  Speaker 3: It's the day before 4th of July and this is my last meeting of the day.
• 3:01
  Speaker 3: I got to do a few follow-up stuff, but then this afternoon my family and I are going to go meeting of the day.
• 3:03
  Speaker 3: I got to do a few follow-ups stuff, but then this afternoon my family and I are going to go out on the river and so I'm grateful for the time we're going to spend out on the boat and just enjoy the good weather here in Eastern Washington, because my son is going off to college in the fall and this might be our last big family hurrah, maybe out here in Eastern Washington.
• 3:22
  Speaker 3: So it's just trying to enjoy those moments and I'm just grateful for I'm also grateful that our whole family exercises and we all are going to get our workout in before we go out on the river.
• 3:35
  Speaker 3: So it's like you work hard and you kind of earn the right to have maybe a few soda pops out on the river and you know, whatever, maybe a soda or two, but I'm grateful for those memories that we're going to create this afternoon.
• 3:48
  Speaker 2: That's gonna be incredible favorite times in my childhood out on the water, so I love it.
• 3:53
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 3:54
  Speaker 3: Why didn't I ever say I'm a barefoot water skier?
• 3:55
  Speaker 3: No, but do you use super glue like you're at that level?
• 4:00
  Speaker 3: I'm totally joking, I just want to see if you believe me, I do water ski and believe it or not.
• 4:06
  Speaker 3: So we have a pontoon boat and I used to water ski a lot as a kid, like slalom, you know.
• 4:11
  Speaker 3: I could go in and out of the way and put up, you know, put up a wall a little bit, and my buddies were way better than me.
• 4:16
  Speaker 3: But I'm, I would say I'm a pretty good skier.
• 4:18
  Speaker 3: And, um, my daughter, that did not believe me and she's like Dad, you're not going to be able to.
• 4:23
  Speaker 3: She's like don't hurt yourself.
• 4:24
  Speaker 3: I'm like honey, I know what I'm doing.
• 4:26
  Speaker 3: I was like I just don't know if the boat could pull me up.
• 4:28
  Speaker 3: It was like two years ago.
• 4:30
  Speaker 3: Now I think I'm going to do the knock on wood Don't get fat, Don't get hurt in my fitness goals.
• 4:49
  Speaker 2: I think I'm going to try to water ski again today and you show a little bit of athleticism your kids like damn dad.
• 4:51
  Speaker 3: You actually did that like at one point.
• 4:51
  Speaker 3: I was also your similar size and had your similar strength to weight ratio.
• 4:53
  Speaker 3: So, yes, I can do that right, exactly all right, dude.
• 4:54
  Speaker 3: So, um, bring me inside the owens huddle, um tell me about the members of the team and how you and your your bride met sure ragtag family of four?
• 5:04
  Speaker 2: um got my wife and I and then our two tiny ones um, I guess getting not so tiny by the day currently just celebrated 11th birthday.
• 5:13
  Speaker 2: My son's the oldest.
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: He celebrated his 11th birthday this past weekend.
• 5:16
  Speaker 2: And then my daughter is eight and a half, going on 19, which we'll certainly get into.
• 5:24
  Speaker 2: So let's see.
• 5:27
  Speaker 2: Wife and I met in her graduate year of college.
• 5:33
  Speaker 2: My first year post undergrad.
• 5:35
  Speaker 2: I stuck around the University of Virginia down in Charlottesville, loved the area, still love the area, which we can get back there more often.
• 5:43
  Speaker 2: But we actually lived in the exact same apartment complex.
• 5:47
  Speaker 2: Our windows looked at each other and we had no idea until after we were introduced by a mutual friend.
• 5:52
  Speaker 2: So, sitting there 50 yards away from my future wife and mother, my children had no idea for about a year and a half, um, but from then it's just been infatuation and being in each other's lives ever since.
• 6:06
  Speaker 3: So good, tell me what your son and daughter like to do and you talked about your gratitude, but what are their activities of enjoyment?
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: They are very active and therefore we are very much chauffeurs.
• 6:19
  Speaker 2: Right now my son is in competitive baseball so he started out doing all the t-ball and everything else and this kid just had the hand-eye coordination that he definitely didn't get from me and he just crushes the ball.
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: He loves playing baseball.
• 6:35
  Speaker 2: Like you mentioned, guardian stuff we sit on the couch watching every Guardians game together.
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: He is just infatuated with the thing.
• 6:41
  Speaker 2: So he loves baseball.
• 6:43
  Speaker 2: We're actually in the second game of his playoffs tonight.
• 6:47
  Speaker 2: It's a win or go home kind of playoff, so we'll see how he does.
• 6:51
  Speaker 2: He's playing the second place team as the fourth place team should be pretty fun.
• 6:56
  Speaker 2: Um, my daughter is like I'll tell you how we brought these kids up.
• 7:02
  Speaker 2: We wanted to make sure that, like we were like, ok, no gender norm stuff.
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: Like whatever our son put on a dress, go for it, man.
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: Like just explore whatever you want to explore, daughter.
• 7:11
  Speaker 2: The same way, like here's dump trucks and whatever other boy things you can think of.
• 7:14
  Speaker 2: She is so hardcore, princess ballerina, whatever you can think of, it's ridiculous.
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: So she is just straight up ballet dance constantly, all day, every day.
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: Taylor, swift is everything.
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: Um, like she is just, she is all girl.
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: But uh, she made a comment last year that she was enjoying dance so much that she said you know, I really want to live at the studio.
• 7:41
  Speaker 2: And we were like, well, funny enough, next year you're doing three classes and you'll be here three nights a week, so yep, you might.
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: It's just unreal.
• 7:50
  Speaker 3: That's funny.
• 7:50
  Speaker 3: Now does she get her dance skills from you from college days?
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: Man, I've been known to rock a Darren's dance grooves.
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: I will absolutely jump up and do that.
• 8:06
  Speaker 3: When NSYNC was big and all those dance moves were all rage, man, I'd do them.
• 8:08
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to save some of those, what you just shared, for the lightning round, which you have no idea is going to come your way.
• 8:13
  Speaker 3: But we're going to have fun with that one.
• 8:15
  Speaker 3: Um later, um, your wife tell me what she does so she is right now.
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of making her own career, Super proud of what she's doing.
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: But she started in the health research space studying a bunch of different types of cancer colon cancer and things like that in her grad degree.
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: Then she ended up on the research bench at a big hospital system up here in Cleveland Anyone who knows Cleveland will know exactly what I'm talking about.
• 8:42
  Speaker 2: Cleveland Anyone who knows Cleveland will know exactly what I'm talking about.
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: She went from being on a research desk to running a research team, to running an entire group within this organization, all centered around genetics.
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: Then she moved to complete career 180 and went into IT in the same area because she had that kind of technical aptitude while also really understanding the bench, which was really valuable.
• 9:07
  Speaker 2: And now she's here, kind of being at the forefront of all AI in this healthcare system and just kind of creating her own position, and she's just an absolute whiz way smarter than I am.
• 9:20
  Speaker 3: Wow, well, most good husbands, most good marriages, we outkick our coverage and we marry up, and sounds like you've done that.
• 9:28
  Speaker 3: Well, my man.
• 9:28
  Speaker 3: Accurate, very accurate.
• 9:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I like and this is where I like to transition into, you know, the old flex capacitor turn back time a little bit, bring me.
• 9:41
  Speaker 3: Bring me back, brad, to what was life like growing up for you and talk about the impacts that your parents had on you.
• 9:46
  Speaker 3: That now that, and as you reflect, now that you're a dad, so I would say life for me.
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: We started back in Virginia.
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: We were in.
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: It was the four of us.
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: It was my dad, mom, my brother and I.
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: We lived in a tiny little townhouse right outside the DC metro area and we just grew up in a hustler's household.
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: Dad had two jobs and a rental property.
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: Mom had a job where she was running back before Zillow became a thing, they had homes, magazines where people used to pick them up, like when they were in the grocery store, and stuff.
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: She ran the biggest one that was in the DC metro area.
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: So it was just a house of hustle.
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: Like they were always busy, always doing things, but we always had fun, like we always tell the story of remembering rolling quarters just to be able to have a pizza date night for the whole family, kind of thing, like it was.
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: They were just hustling to do whatever they possibly could.
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: Things started taking off for the publication that we had, so we were able to kind of step up lifestyle a little bit, move to a different neighborhood and move a little bit further south in Virginia.
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: Then you know that the whole publication was very much cyclical.
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: It was very much hey, everyone buys homes in the summer, nothing really happens in the winter.
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: My brother and I were always really active kids.
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: We chose soccer as our sport of choice.
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: We did soccer all the way, both of us all the way up to college.
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: So they were really invested in having us get on the best teams and have the best coaches, best training programs.
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: So they were always really busy with that stuff and we never really saw what went into the hustle to kind of keep all of that lifestyle going.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: Um, I didn't really realize until later how much work they were truly doing to keep all of this stuff going and keep it afloat and um the nights till 3am working to try and get the book out at the right time so that we could get up in the morning at six to go drive two hours to our soccer game, like it was.
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: They were hustling so hard and they shielded us from a lot of that stuff, which is incredible that they were able to do that.
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: But also I respect it so much for what they were doing.
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: Um, when we were about, when I was in my early teens, my dad decided like hey, we need to change this dynamic a little bit.
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: Like we're, we're really reliant on just us.
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: There's really no safety net.
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: This is just real hard work for us, constantly Like we should do something about this.
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: He had always had a Like, an interest in flying and always thought that it was kind of a cool thing to do.
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: So he went through, got his private pilot's license, did all of that while still working on this whole publication.
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: He needed a whole bunch of hours.
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: So he started teaching flying for a little while.
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: His best story about teaching flying was Carter Buford, the drummer for Dave Matthews band out of Charlottesville.
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: He actually taught him how to fly and got him his pilot's license.
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: So that's fun little story that he he had doing that.
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: I never got anything signed, by the way.
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: As a drummer growing up I was really upset about that, but we'll leave that, uh.
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: So he kept going in this flight, um and his flight path, uh.
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: And at one point just decided look, we could make this a huge thing.
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: I could go to a school that would train me.
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: It's an all intensive school.
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: I'd stay down there for six months to a year.
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: I learned everything I need to know, get all of my licenses and then I could be a corporate pilot and it would be huge for the family, and my brother and I are back home with my mom at this point like super active kids.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: She's still running this publication at the same time and this goes back to the how much of a hustler house, what it was they made it work.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: Both my mom and dad were like this is what's right for the family.
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: Let's do this thing.
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: So they decided, hey, we're going to live apart for a little while while you go, get all your flight licenses and everything that you need to make this thing work.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: My mom's still running the book and got two active kids that are both in sports constantly.
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: Like I still don't understand how, to this day, they continue to do that.
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: But we never wanted for anything, always had fun toys, like when, I say, we were boaters, we lived on a lake community, so we were on like the ski club, the swim team, like we were just doing doing it all.
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: Uh, never the wiser to how hard both my parents were working.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: Um, but I think that truly just going through that designed a lot of the way that I design my life now and the reasons that you know you and I are even talking at this point is because of what I had instilled from my parents of all of the hustle, all of the grit of, like, how you actually have to.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: Just no one's going to hand things to you.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: You truly have to do things for yourself because you're your biggest fan.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: Like, just you have to do it for yourself, yourself because you're your biggest fan.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: Like, just you have to do it for yourself.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: So that puts us through.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: Honestly, when I got into college, I got into college, realized that I was a teeny, tiny fish in a huge pond, but I grew up as a big fish in a small pond and I had no idea what I was facing.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: But all those tendencies that I learned from my parents the grit, the determination and like you just got to make it work, like, figure out the way and make it happen Surprise, Met my wife at the end of that.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: So it's pretty good journey.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: So what other jobs you mentioned?
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: Your dad had a couple of jobs before the publication.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: Tell me what those were.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Oh goodness, he was an accountant for a little bit.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: He was a bartender for a while.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: They had the rental property that brought in a little bit of income, like he was just doing whatever he could to keep food coming in.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: So it was very, very inspiring looking back on it, knowing what he did Like during.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: I had no idea, no clue, but looking back on it I completely respect him for all the work that he put in to keep things going.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Now are mom and dad still with us.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, my parents are on the younger end.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: So even though I'm touching 40, they're just in their mid, early 60s, so they're absolutely still kicking around.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: They've been lifelong fitness geeks and they're still kicking around constantly like they're.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: They're probably in the best shape of any of my friends parents, and every time they come around they're like hey, who's your friend?
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: I'm like, nope, that's, that's my dad.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: So, uh, it's just, it's inspiring to see where they're at.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: So good, Fitness is important, man, it's um it.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: I mean it takes the things you talked about grit, hard work, hustle, mindset, Um, but it's a choice, Yep.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: It's a lifestyle.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: It has to be a lifestyle.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: It can't just be like a trend.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're one of those families that, like we, we go on vacations, like we're still working out, and so just because we're on vacation doesn't mean we're not working out, and so it's.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: And I think once those habits fall off, or we give yourself the oh, I'll just take a couple of days off, which I think sometimes you got to do, but like I don't know, when I do that I I'm more fearful of losing the habits I love than you know then it's not doing it.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: So, as someone who's, at my stage, going to have kids, that are your kids age eventually what are the things that you guys do as family workouts?
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: I'm using air quotes like your listeners can see it.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, um, like we, so I do old man crossfit, which I've coined that phrase, which is essentially the goals are don't get fat and don't get hurt, love it.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: So it's you don't like I do like circuit type stuff, like today I did.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: I ran a 400 and then I did eight rounds of five pull-ups and 12 wall ball, which is taking like a 20 pound ball, throwing it to a target 10 feet high.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Eight rounds that then run and run a 400 dang hard.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: You know was breathing, didn't get hurt, felt good.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Um, my daughter will do like she's big into core and then she plays basketball.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: She's a shooter.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: My son's, he's gonna play golf in college, so he's like more core and strength and not like you know power, you know enjoying the power of things squad, but like enough just to stay fit and but like it's just fun sometimes to do like those types of activities Like and and all.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Since my kids have been born it's funny I had a I had a client recently take a picture of his stroller with his kid and about running and it's like you know he put on LinkedIn said something about like anybody else have strollers, like I was like.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: It totally resonated with me.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: It like brought me back to the memory of dude.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: I totally remember taking my kids on strollers with my daughter had a Prince, had a Barbie, my son had a cars and and I'd come home from work and I'd take him for running the Bob stroller and you know we'd go maybe a couple of miles but it's we I'm working out, but I'm still talking to him while they're working.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: While they're, it's kind of like you're getting some mom and dad time and so forever as it.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: When they were younger, all I kids saw was that you know, so it's, it's uh, it's fun to see them creating the habit of you know.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: And my son's at the age now obviously he's 18 or where you actually could start seeing muscles form like Ooh, I kind of like how that looks and your confidence goes up.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: And uh, my daughter, she's like fricking.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: She's only five foot four but she's jacked and pretty much six pack and toughest person in our family Um, sorry, writer, aired you out there, buddy, but she's tough than all of us.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Um, um, okay, so real quick.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: So I'm an airplane nerd, did your dev, I want to make sure I heard you right.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Did your dad ever fly people like like fall on, like corporate pilot?
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Did I hear that?
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he worked his way through a bunch of different things.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: So he worked for an airline for a little bit.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Um, you remember jet blue?
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so he flew for jet blue for a little while until things went south there.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Um realized, yeah.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: So he flew for JetBlue for a little while until things went south there, realized the money was way better in corporate America when you fly a lot less and a lot more predictably, but you make pretty good money.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: So he worked his way through and he is now one of the top pilots for Costco.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: No way, yeah, so he flies around all the buyers and the execs and they go to all the different store openings and all that stuff all across the U?
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: S, so it's pretty fun.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: I wonder if your dad has ever flown either my friends or cause I've a friend who's an executive there and I also have um a buddy of mine who I play golf with, who does a lot of work with Costco, and I think he's been on those planes before.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: If they've ever taken the jet, yeah, guarantee he's been one of those, cause he's uh, I think he's 12 years now with Costco and a lot of turnover in the pilot industry, so he he had probably seen most of them.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: How do you get that job?
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Out of curiosity, a crazy networking um down in Charlottesville when he was doing his, some of his private work and private lessons, he got introduced to everyone that was in the hangar and part of the people that were in the hangar were folks that flew out of Dulles in Northern Virginia and that's where one of the big planes at Costco's headquartered is, out of Dulles.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: So they just kind of crossed paths and he was getting that type of type rating that he needed to be able to fly that kind of plane and they were like, hey, once you get it, come talk to us.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: And history is history is what comes after that, I guess.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: That's so cool.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: What a small world.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: That's very cool.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Um, okay, you, you briefly mentioned grit.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: You briefly mentioned a few other great values, but if you had to think of a story growing up where you really learned the word grit and the value behind grit, tell me what comes to mind when I ask you that.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Instantly get a flashback.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Instantly I can see myself in this story.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: So I mentioned how I was kind of a big fish in a small pond in high school.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Academically I did pretty well.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I was what didn't really feel like a ton of work on my side.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I still got good grades and was still doing a lot on the soccer team.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: But I was in like a teeny, tiny podunk town in Virginia Like there was not a lot going on.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: So I ended up graduating in like fourth of my class Thought I was amazing, got into one of the better schools in Virginia.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I was like this is going to be great, I'm going to love this, it's going to be awesome.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: The very first day in my dorm room we all met kind of like a big wing meeting and we were all talking, just trying to get to know each other and we're all trying to compare right.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: We're like, well, what was your upbringing?
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: What did you get on the SAT, what did you do?
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: And like I started realizing real quick that I had no room to talk around these incredibly smart individuals Like they put me to absolute shame and I was like, well, you know good, like I don't want to be the.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I didn't go here because I expected to be the best person at everything.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I came here to learn and these are going to be amazing people to learn around, so this, this should be great.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Um, I was a kid who was used to getting straight A's like A's at everything, and it came easily, like maybe a little bit of studying here and there, but it just it was okay.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: My, I didn't really know what I wanted to do, so I was taking some really out there classes my first year at college and I took this one class.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: That was well known that you only get two tests, you get the midterm and you get the final, and I just was treating school just like I'd always treated school, like I was like, oh well, I'll just learn through osmosis and kind of read the book and it'll be OK.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: And then, once midterm comes, I'll be fine, get my first midterm score back and it was a 40.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: I went oh my God, I can do math.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I know what that means I need to do on the final how to even pass this class, how in the world am I even going to do this?
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: So, midterm, my very first semester at school, I'm sitting there hands like my head in my hands.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I'm bawling because I'd never been facing this before.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Like I'm going to fail my very first class ever.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I like I'm the first one in however long to go to school and my family like this is a big, freaking deal.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Like I got to do something about this.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I have never worked harder in my entire life to learn something.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: And this was ethics.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: And, oh God, what was it?
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: It was health and ethics in medicine.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Like I had this some weird thing.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Like I was going to be premed.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Like I was taking some ethics related to health care and medicine class.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I had no business being in this thing.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: So, from that midterm all the way through the end, I had never worked that hard to study and to understand everything.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: And when I say, I can flash back to the absolute moment when I was thinking to myself man, this is a lot of hard work, but this is what it takes, this is what I have to do to get this stuff done.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I there was the final coming up.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: There was two days left between that moment and when I was supposed to take the final.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I went and got a huge lunch and I shut myself in the basement of one of the libraries on grounds we don't call it campus, called grounds.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: So I shut myself in one of the basements.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I found my own little cubby.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: There was no one around, it was quiet.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: They kept it nice and cool so I know I'd stay awake.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I stayed up until I knew every single thing on that syllabus and on my um.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: I made myself like, okay, this is probably going to come up on the final kind of cheat sheet and I just ran through it and ran through it and ran through it and kept giving myself little breaks to watch little videos here and there.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: And I went out and got dinner and came back.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: But by the time I emerged from the basement, having not looked at a clock or anything else, it was four 30 in the morning, the day of the test.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: But I knew every single thing.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: So I had time enough to go back to my um apartment at the time shower, get a little bit of breakfast and go and take the test.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: And we got back our final scores and ended up getting like a final score in the class overall of an 85.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I can do math.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: 40 plus 100 divided by two, that doesn't equal 85.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: So all I can think is that there was some crazy curve in the class and I did so well on the last test that they decided that I was good enough to pass that class.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: I had never been more thrilled in my life.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Oh so good.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: That took a hell of a lot of work to get here, but, wow, that's what it's going to take and that's probably the best description I can think of of true, just determination and grit.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Besides grit, tell me what other values were important that your parents instilled in you that now you teach your kids.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: So we operate off the big three C's here.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: So every single time my kids are talking about something or complaining about something or going through something, I always bring them back to the three C's.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: We got to have curiosity, which I know you'll love.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: We got to be caring and we got to have courage.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: So if I like, for example, when we go out and we get ice cream as a family, when we go through the line, a lot of the families are ordering for their kids and you know saying what do you want, sweetie?
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: And then telling the person I'm like well, they can tell.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: So one of the earliest things I could think of for my kids is we sit them, we talk to them in line, like what do you want to get?
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: What are you going to get?
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: And then, once they get up to the front of the line, like have courage, tell them, speak up, tell them what you actually want.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: And it's those little tiny things that I always keep coming back to them and saying like we're doing this on purpose, like this is going to explode in the rest of your life and you're going to have the courage to be able to speak up for yourself and be able to get the things that you want and ask the right questions.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: So we always come back to being curious.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Be having courage and being caring of other people.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: How I love the example of ordering.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: That was one of my pet peeves.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: When I saw my buddies order for their kids, I'm like, do they not speak English?
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: And I just think it's a great way to teach manners and look them in the eye and please, and thank yous and how to articulate yourself.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: And even when they didn't want to do it, I'd say well, it sounds like you want to eat today then, because I'm not ordering for you.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: I'm like well, what kind of ice cream do you want?
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: They're like I want that one.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: I'm like then tell them, like guess you're not getting ice cream Right, exactly no, and it's like so easy.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: That might seem like a little thing but I think that little thing over time adds up to bigger shenanigans or issues that maybe you don't see yet or don't foster yet.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Well, as someone who's living in the future, I'd love to get your insight into what I should be preparing them for next Cause.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: right now it's just preteen garbage and Swifty constantly See, I'm lucky, my, I've not had to deal with too much girl drama.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Um, my, my daughter's boyfriend is the game of basketball and so she her social media, she follows everything basketball and so I've not had to deal with, like any boyfriend, jet or net stuff and but yeah, I'm sure it'll happen eventually.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: But okay, so I love, I love, I love something that's easy and simple in the three C's for dads, dads or moms or grandpas or grandmas whoever's listening like that's a great one.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Like curiosity, caring, encourage, um.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Have you had an example or a story that comes to mind where your kids have have come to you and saying hey, dad, I did the three C's at school or I I did the three C's sometime that you might want to share, that audience might find interesting, I did the three C's sometime that you might want to share that the audience might find interesting.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: So I'm not sure that the the C words are really what keeps coming back, but they definitely tell stories that I'm like, oh, it's kind of sinking in.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: There was a recent time at one of the camps that my kids are at right now.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: So they're on summer break.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: They're just doing as many camps as they could we can possibly fit them in, because wife and I are so both super busy.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: We still want them to have fun and enrichment during the summer.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: So they're in a theater camp right now.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: It's a five week theater camp and they're doing things that are totally outside of my son's comfort zone.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: But my daughter is just eating it up.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: But yet both of them are going in like very open-minded, very excited about it.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: They come home singing the songs from theater camp like they're loving it.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: So there was a day recently where my daughter was talking to me about camp as soon as she got home.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I was like hey, sweetie, how was your day?
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: She's like, well, something weird happened.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, ok, she's like, well, it wasn't weird for me, it was weird for this person and it was just it was really strange.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Like, okay, so you've got me on the hook.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Now, sweetie, tell me, tell me what's happening.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: So they were doing some sort of everyone up on stage.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: We're gonna do this one exercise and the theater the camp director talks about.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Hey, one of the biggest things that we need to get these kids over the fear of is about just being on stage.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: So everything that we do is just on stage.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Sometimes the people in the audience, sometimes they're not.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: We're just going to be on stage.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: And my daughter reacted really well to that.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: She's like great, sounds, awesome, put me up there.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: But apparently the rest of her class wasn't like that and there were a lot of people that were having some real big issues, like they didn't even want to stand on it when there's no one in the audience.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: So my daughter was talking to me about how, at the start of the camp, she had held someone's hand and help them come out on stage and she said I was being really
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: caring and really helping and I was like, oh, there's that word.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: But she had the same person that she's been helping out Apparently recently and I don't know this kid, and no one that listens is going to know.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: This kid apparently peed their pants on stage and my daughter was like, so everyone kept thinking like that was such a weird thing and so like thinking that it was a mean thing, like they were laughing and they thought it was really rude and the way that she was talking about this.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, she knows that wasn't caring, she knows that that was the wrong thing to do in that moment.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: And what my daughter said is she said so.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: At lunch we shared our snack.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I was like there you go girl Like, yeah, she had every opportunity to just lump in with what everyone else was doing and make fun of this poor girl for having a terrible time on stage, and she instead sat with her and helped share the snack.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like that's what I'm talking about.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: So it's sticking.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: It's definitely sticking.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's, it takes a reinforcement, Um, but those are that's great stories to celebrate.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Um, what I love about I gotta give your son props, dude, I mean.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: So we got a, we got a stud.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Athlete his creative side and be a little theatrical you know who we have to thank.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Um, oh my gosh, now I'm not gonna be able to come up with the name.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Uh, high school musical also did um greatest showman oh, um, then you're talking about zach efron zach efron.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: There we go.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Zach efron, yeah, we give him to think, because my son just thinks he's like the most incredible dude, he's like whoa, he's like a basketball player, but he also does that stuff like he just thinks it's real life, like high school music was real life well, it's like timberlake.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Timberlake to me would be a dude I would love to hang out with, I mean yeah agreed.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Uh, good golfer, good athlete, but crazy good singer, crazy good dancer.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: I actually saw him in concert, um, in, this was probably 10 years ago in Vegas, dude, it was unbelievable.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Two hours and 45 minutes straight, no breaks.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: He's a hell of a performer.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: I mean just the fitness to be able to do that.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: I mean I've done eight karaoke songs in a row and I was tired.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: No, right.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: No, Imagine dance moves on top.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Curiosity, caring, courage.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: How often do you remind your kids of those?
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: We could probably do more.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: But mostly when they're about to face a situation where I know it's going to come up, or when they're currently going through something, I ask them.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I'm like OK, so what are some of the C's we need to think of here?
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: So like heading into camp for the very first time, like we talked about courage, so we bring them up often.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Well, I love how you, you I don't know if you realize you did this, but you could have easily given them the answer, but you asked them a question, which you're.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: So you're teaching curiosity by being curious, which I think is the great, a great way to do it.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: And, um, I know you've probably seen that's what I do in that, my um, sales and leadership work that I do.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: That I did not mean to get into, but it's if I say it's corny, this is Brad, it's a calling, uh, but like I am obsessed with curiosity because it is such a gift, it is such a superpower that a lot of us don't slow down to think about, but it unlocks everything, everything.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Like this morning I've got a phone with a client and he's like holy shit, I had no idea we were going to talk about that, I had no idea I was going to leave thinking about this.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: I had no, I said near to die.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: But when we're curious and we ask, not the first level but second level, question what, what, and then it's amazing what happens.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: And so, not the first level, but second level, question what, what, and then it's amazing what happens.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: And so you know, I it takes, I guess, patience, which was is one of my gaps that I have to work on all the time.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: But when we're, when we can get really patient and not always rush to give the answer and ask our kids questions, we help their critical thinking skills.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: Actually, I give credit to one of my buddy's dads, hb Smith If you're listening probably not, but if he is I remember there's.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: He used to ask me questions, right, I'd go to his house sometimes for help on math Cause I was like I don't understand what the hell this is.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: I go to HB and I'll ask him a question.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: He's like what do you think?
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: I'm?
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Hb is like yeah, you do, I don't.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: That's why he says we'll figure out together, man, and like I still remember I'm 48.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: I still remember that that was like 14 years old.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: He was teaching me back then.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: So now as I'm, as I'm really curious in my mindset as a dad, business person, whatever it, I flash back on those moments of curiosity.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Um, so, with that little off my soapbox there, I said with that, can you think of a time where your parents or growing up, where you really learned the power of curiosity?
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Um, that has stuck with you.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: You know, when I was growing up, my brother and I and my dad, we were all just car obsessed.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Like we wanted just to have that cool car and see what we could do and like like build different things and assemble different parts to make the really cool stuff.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: And this is going to absolutely date me, but that's fine.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: The Fast and Furious movie the very first one came out when I was 15 and right about to enter my first car and be able to get something and, you know, put my time and effort into it and that set me on a path that was just completely next level.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Like I went full into Fast and Furious not only just cars but lifestyle and everything else.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Like I, that was what I wanted to do.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: So my dad like we could have gone out and found one of these cars and just bought the car as is, but instead my dad gave me the gift by saying let's build it, let's put it together, let's figure out what this all takes.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: He wanted me to truly know what I was getting and know how to fix things and know how to rely on myself and to not get stranded.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: And if you truly want to have a car, that's going to end up at this caliber.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Like you should have some sweat equity into it.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Let's, let's find not just the end state, let's find the sitting on a corner.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Someone forgot about a car that you can turn into what you want.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: So we truly had to go out with this exercise in curiosity.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I didn't know anything about cars, I didn't know how to buy one, find one this is before auto trader.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Like you need to know any of that stuff.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: So we would just drive laps around our city that we were in to try and find some sort of car sitting in a parking lot that someone had a for sale sign in, and we ended up finding the perfect car 1995 honda del sol.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Uh, it's a two-seater thing.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: It was incredible.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Um, removable top, like it was incredible.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: So we found it, but it was some grandma's car that had like no miles on it whatsoever.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: They barely touched it and I'm sitting there just like foaming at the mouth because I knew what this thing could turn into.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: So, like we went all through test driving.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: He taught me all about the car.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Like we had manuals for the thing.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: We were figuring out how the engine works and how to put stuff on, and we did research into parts and what would actually fit it, and all this different kind of stuff.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Fast forward two years later.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: I'm a 17 year old with a full blown Honda show car, when it's all the rage to have one of these things that gets sponsorships and all sorts of stuff from all these other big companies.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: I'm doing car shows on the weekends.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I don't have soccer because I got picked up by these sponsors that made it mandatory that if we put this on your car, we want you to be at these many shows a year.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: It was just insane.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: But all that started because he wouldn't let me just get to the final, like he wanted me to learn and be curious and to figure out how this stuff would actually go together and make it on my own.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's so cool.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: When's the last time you thought about that?
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: The tell soul Every single time I my neighbor actually has a older nineties Toyota MR2 that looks really similar.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Every time he backs that out of the garage I'm like, oh, I missed that project.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: How about the one's last time you thought about your dad teaching you that skill?
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: honestly a lot when we start like my son and I.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: We, like a month ago, had to winterize the snowblower up here in Ohio.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Lots and lots of snow, Um.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: So we had to winterize the snowblower and he was sitting around and went come on out, you're going to learn like we're going to be curious together.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: And he just asked tons of questions and I was like cool man, I will sit out here as long as you want so that you figure out every single part about how this engine works.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: It's pretty fun.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: So it's, it's funny.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: My pops wrestling slowly passed away December 29th 2021, but like he taught me so much.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: But one thing he did not teach me that I don't think he had the skill of was being handy.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: So I am like if you Google world's worst handyman and then click images, you might see my face pop up.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: My wife is crazy handy.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Her dad, bruce, level shout out to Bruce is like he's actually a pilot too is like MacGyver, like he could fix anything.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: So I think a lot of it.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: It's like you're how you were.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: It's like if you're mechanically inclined or you just tend to be more fixie or a fix-it person.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: My dad was like he was more social EQ than IQ.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: That's obviously where I am too, and so it's like I always joke I'm a great secondhand, I'll work my ass off, We'll do it.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: I just I can't.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: My brain doesn't go to seeing we're going to build this, I'm like, yeah, I'm not seeing that.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: And then once it gets built, I'm like, oh, that makes total sense.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: But you're such a doer in real life though, like do you feel like you get caught up in, like you don't get caught up in ideating you are more biased towards action, aren't you?
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, a thousand percent, I'm a do, I am like I'm such a will or won't.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: I am driven like a mother effer.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: Um, I, just to me, I'm I.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Sometimes I joke like I'd rather just outsource it and, you know, help people do their straight, like I don't have the patience to want to go fix that.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Uh but just, you know, maybe I hate to say maybe it's lazy, I don't know.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Uh, maybe it's.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: But there's some people that are like I have one buddy who's crazy handy and he's just, I joke to him, he's probably a little cheap, he just doesn't want to.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: He can, I know, he can afford it, but he'd just rather do it himself.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: And you know, to each his own.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: To me I might If I could spend, and again, it's no right or wrong, I think for me, if I have some free time, I'd rather go play golf with my son or go rebound for my daughter or go take a walk with my wife than get frustrated at a dryer and want to rip my face off and say 76 F-bombs and people think what the hell is wrong with that?
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: He's going nuts up there, sure, but Hi, this is Kathy Orton.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I'm the director of talent management at Coworks Staffing Services.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Coworks is one of the largest staffing firms in the United States, with operations in all 50 states, over 60,000 temporary field talent.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: We are devoted to the success and growth of our employees and our clients.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: We are celebrating our 50th anniversary this year and are proud to have a legacy of treating people the right way, doing the right thing, supporting our communities and putting field talent first.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Our team places candidates in administrative light, industrial, call center, distribution, third-party logistic positions with additional opportunities through our executive search, creative staffing and luxury, beauty and fragrance divisions.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Our executive search, creative staffing and luxury, beauty and fragrance divisions.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: We had the pleasure of having Casey Jaycox deliver a keynote presentation and training workshop to our sales team this year and I have to tell you it was exceptional.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Casey is funny, he is engaging and he is approachable.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: What sets Casey apart is that he really walks the walk.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: He lives what he teaches.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: He spent time with us outside of the workshop, really taking the time to get to know our people.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: He shared information about his personal life, about his family, creating the foundation for authentic relationships, one of the core elements of the strategy he teaches.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Casey left our teams feeling motivated, energized and armed with the actionable tools to transform their sales performance.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I cannot recommend Casey enough to any or any organization looking to grow and unlock their full potential.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: If you want to learn more about Cowork Staffing, please visit our website at CoworkStaffingcom.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Now let's get back to the podcast.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, if you were to, if you were to like summarize kind of what we've, what we've talked about and that that dads at home, um can, can think, can think about, like man, we, you know, you've shared some stories, we've learned some, some things about you, but like a themes of themes of topics that we've talked about, the dads can pull from this conversation to kind of apply in their own life to become a better leader, better quarterback of their home.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Tell me what comes to mind.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: You know, whether it's directly related to what we talked about or not, one of the themes that keeps coming up for my family and I here recently is it doesn't have to be good, but you got to show up the a lot of what's come from both my life and what I've been able to accomplish up to this point and what I'm continuing to try to accomplish, with watching what my wife's doing and how incredible she's doing, and watching my son's progression through baseball and like he's never been the best kid and my daughter just sticking with everything with dance.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Like you're not.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: It's not going to be perfect.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Perfect is like it's an ideal.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: It's not something that's ever going to be, because you will always find things that you can nitpick and kind of like there's a reason that people go elite quarterbacks, go watch film on Monday, right, like they.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, you can always get better, but the thing that truly does matter is showing up and putting in the work.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: So that's a lot of what keeps coming up in our family and I feel like if everyone can think about parenting in the way of look, it's not going to be perfect.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: No one has the answers, but showing up, that's going to matter.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Love it.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: That's such simple but good advice.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: My man and there's.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: I always mess this up.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: I always get to their Tom Brady or Joe Montana, but his dad, one of their dads, I should figure this out.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: But their dad asked a question.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: He said do you want to be your best or do you want to be the best?
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: And sometimes people say I want to be the best.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: I said you can't, you have no over your best.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: And that and so that's something I always talk, to try to talk to my kids about is like you know, you're like Riley, my daughter, you're.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: You're not going to shoot a hundred percent from three point go.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: And if you shoot 30%, I think that's they.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: There's a stat 30, 35%.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Since you, you're going to be a division one basketball player, three point shooter, three out of 10.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: That's not good, but over time it's really good.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: Um, you know, my son plays golf.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: That's just like it's a game of failure, right?
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Constant failure, just like baseball, constant failure.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: So if you go in with outcome based mindset of, oh I got it, like you're already losing, and so he and I talked about that yesterday on the golf course where me he played great shot, fricking 73, and he was pissed on.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, think about you just shot 73 and you had one kind of one weird hole, that kind of got off off kilter a little bit.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: And I'm like the one thing that I'm like you want to see what dad loses.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Shit is body language, or my or, or how you carry yourself.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: I usually go off the rails quickly, um, not like scary and mad, but I just like that's one of my non-negotiables, as my with my kids is like I never want, if your competitors should never see how frustrated you are or how angry you are or how happy you are, just we're going to stay humble, we're going to stay grounded, um, because once they know that they've got you, you're done, you are.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Just we're going to stay humble, we're going to stay grounded um, because once they know that they've got you, you're done, you are done.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: We can talk about that one for a while, seeing my son react to getting struck out like grinds my gears immediately yeah, I mean shit, how many, how many?
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: I mean tell them to try to be a seattle mariner fan right now.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: We are like leading the world in strikeouts right now.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: It it's so frustrating, been rough.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been, it's horrible, but it's like to those points once you can kind of clear your mind of life's about failure.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: And one of my favorite quotes that one of my mentors told me he said he said it's okay not to know every answer.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: It's just not okay not to do anything about it.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: So I think that kind of aligns along what?
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: What you're about showing up is like listen, we all got gaps, we all aren't perfect, but let's figure out ways to get a little bit better together.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: And and I think then when that, when you, when we as dads, lead that way, our kids see it that way and then hopefully they'll start leading that way, um, which I think just creates a more positive place for everybody else to live in the universe.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Look at us solving the world's problems.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: Bradley, love it.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: Tell me an area of your dad game that you know is not where you want it to be, and I'll lead my witness, mine's patience.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Tell me what's near your dad game that you know, maybe it's not where you want to be, but you're committed to working hard to become that better leader at your home.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: So maybe it's something to do with patience, but I know that my reactions to questions needs to be different.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: The if I'm trying to teach my kids to be curious and I'm in the middle of something and they ask me a question and my initial reaction is dude, that's not helpful in any way.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Um, I can.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: I saw it a couple of times.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: It absolutely broke my freaking heart when my kids come in to ask a question and they say is it okay, dad, if I, if I ask you something like Whoa, what did I do to elicit that kind of reaction, like you should always be willing and want to ask me a question.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: So I need to get better at how I um, I don't need, I will get better.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Look at you.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he do use so everybody at home.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: I taught Brad five swear words and he just caught himself and those swear words are need to, should, to want to have to, and can.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: He caught himself and he used.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: I will.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Well done.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Should to want to have to and can he caught himself and he used?
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: I will.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Well done, sir.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: So I will get better about how I respond to my kids asking questions, because I always want them to feel like dad's a safe spot, like you should feel willing and completely able to ask dad anything you ever possibly want, at any time.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Love it um, okay, I want to transition and let's let's make people aware of the wonderful work you and your team are doing at assemble.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: So if anybody uh has like assemble, like like in the band symbol, no, no assemble.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: So tell everybody at home what do you do and why should they care about what assembles about?
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: So I grew up 15 years as a recruiter.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: I was like everyone who used to recruit, just like yourself, I absolutely hated the tech that we had to use.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I never really thought like it was set up for me.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: I never really thought like it was perfect.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I always kept trying to find that next tech solution that would solve all my problems, this next ATS or this next CRM.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: It would solve everything.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: And as an industry us, as recruiters we really love to have an all-in-one system.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: We try and think that we're going to buy the biggest and the best and it's going to solve everything for us, because it's well-known to do everything.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: But what we find is that when we're using that piece of software, we're limited in a lot of different ways.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: We're limited in what we can integrate with.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: We're limited in a lot of different ways.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: We're limited in what we can integrate with.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: We're limited in the ways that we can use that software.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: We're limited in what that truly will allow us to be as a company, because we may have to go out and buy different pieces of technology that won't talk together and lead to crazy headaches later.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: So I stumbled upon Salesforce way back I say way back.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: It was only five years ago and I saw it for the first time while I was in an internal recruiting job and I went oh my gosh, this is what the recruiting industry has been missing all along.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: I knew what it could do.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: I saw the power and it immediately hit me this is what recruiting needs to do.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: So two years after that, I find myself sitting at Salesforce.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Actually got a job at the mothership.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: I was helping them build up the staffing and recruiting vertical and helping these gigantic recruiting firms um, robert, half allegiance, uh, like just all sorts of huge companies that are out there and I went Ooh, there's still something missing, like there's still a piece to this puzzle that people are trying to integrate all these different things while still getting the power out of Salesforce.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: And Salesforce was missing just that simple applicant tracking system that would allow people who are in recruiting to take advantage of everything that Salesforce has to offer.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: So, lo and behold, along comes the two co-founders of what is now Assemble Incorporated, and they were building just that.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: They were building that applicant tracking system that plugs into Salesforce.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: So all of those amazing sales features, all those amazing marketing features and customer service and everything else that you want your recruiting firm to be can get powered by Salesforce, and now you can also do your recruiting out of it.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: So it becomes just this incredible, indispensable tool for any kind of recruiting organization to run their entire business front to back on one single platform.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: And it's truly possible, because the way that the assemble applicant tracking system works is it allows people to build out a tech stack that actually works for them.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: They assemble their tech stack.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: That's where it comes from.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: So my role in all of that is to help people understand who are in the industry, what Salesforce can truly do with them and do it for them, and then help Salesforce also understand what the recruiting industry actually needs.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: So I'm kind of that go between for both, and it's my job to be that translator, and it's just incredible to help to watch every single day on both sides, help people be curious and open their eyes to what's truly possible, and it's just an incredible ride.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Love it and, um, I think you said something that I think also will help the audience at home, but they're still like, maybe they're intrigued.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: You're like, oh, I want to learn more about that, like you described, kind of like the iPhone, and when you build apps and you kind of add apps to it, like maybe share that so people can understand more too.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: So a lot of people may think that Salesforce is a tool for sales.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: It's not.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: It is so much more.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: It is the best platform with the worst possible name Because Salesforce itself.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: You can think of it like the iPhone 1, the very first iPhone that came out.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: It did okay.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: People were like, oh, this is cool, it's got a screen to do touch things.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: It doesn't have buttons that's cool.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: But what made the iPhone take off?
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: The app exchange.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: It doesn't have buttons, that's cool, but what made the iPhone take off?
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: The AppExchange, the new App Store that popped up and now you can have this one thing, be anything that you want it to be.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Well, fun, short story, the App Store.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Actually, that URL was given to Steve Jobs by Mark Benioff, the founder of Salesforce.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: So Mark Benioff gave them App Store because AppExchange what currently now is Salesforce's version of the App Store didn't exist.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: But now Salesforce has their own version of the App Store and you can load any kind of business process app that you want onto your Salesforce environment, which we, as Assemble, the App Contracting System, can just load it right in and you can be anything that you want it to be.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: We've seen companies that don't even have a sales function, but they're running their entire organization off of Salesforce because of what a powerful platform it can be.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: And when you think about integrations like oh my gosh, how am I going to integrate invoicing, or how am I going to integrate payroll, or how am I going to do marketing, that can all be done on the same system.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: So people are living in.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: I think, honestly, what is a legacy view of I just need this one app to do this one thing and not really everyone's taking advantage of this more next level platform view of I can make this thing be everything I need.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: And if people want to learn more about you, we've intrigued them.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: They're excited to connect, not only Brad as a dad, but Brad the Salesforce expert.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: Assemble, guru, tell me what's the best way people can connect with you.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: I long time ago squatted on the URL bradowenscom.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: So if you head up bradowenscom, I'm there.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: Every single thing I'm about is right there.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, and I'm assuming LinkedIn is also a place people can find you.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Yep, I think if you Google Brad Owens, it should be one of the top two things that comes up as my LinkedIn page.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: I'm quite active on there.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: Very cool.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: All right, my man, it's now time to go into the lightning round, where I ask you just completely random questions.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: I show you all the negative hits have taken too many hits in college not bong hits, but football hits.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Your job is to answer these questions as quickly as you can.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: My job is to try to get a giggle giggle out of you all right, I'm gonna sip water, so I'm ready okay, he's.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: He's stretching.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: He's doing jumping jacks everybody right now.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: His helmet is on he's.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: He just put on a jock strap.
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: That was really weird, but I'm good look, gotta be safe video.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, safety never takes a holiday.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Okay, uh, true or false?
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: Um, if backstreet boys added a sixth member of the band, you would be the person.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Hell yeah, true, okay, that's what I thought.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Um, if n sync and backstreet boys got into a cage match, who would win?
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: oh shit uh, backstreet boys, those boys are hard.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there we go.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: No pun intended.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: Uh, if I was to go into your phone right now, what would be the one song, uh, that we would, that would, that would be played.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: That you're, you're, you're a fantastic co-founder, greg Simmons would be like what you listen to.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: That.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Uh, so most recently up would have been so I DJ showers for my kids.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: So most recently up was Taylor Swift's greatest hits, and before that was Ed Sheeran's greatest hits.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: So I'm sure there's something in there that he'd be like what are you listening to?
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: There we go.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: If I was to come to your house for dinner tonight, what would we have?
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, my wife actually, during her lunch break, put in her famous turkey meatballs, so you'd be in for an absolute treat are we going?
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: pasta with the meat, the balls are we?
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: just uh, I probably won't touch the pasta because hashtag uh fitness goals.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: But um, you're welcome to it yeah see, I I exercise so I can I'm.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: So knock on wood, hope I'm not jinxing myself, but I'm.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: I pretty much I eat, not like crazy bad, but I just I don't do fast food, but I I work out to be able to have a few things like soda pops or or, just you know, pizza or burger here and there, but you feel like you earn it.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: So if I'm staying, even maybe that's not the best way of doing it, but hey, it works for me.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: Everybody sure?
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: Um, if there was to be a book written about your life, tell me the title.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Oh shit, maybe that's it.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Oh shit, that's.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: A lot of what I've gone through is like, oh, this new thing, so maybe oh shit's the title.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: We'll go with that.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: Oh shit, dot dot dot, that's it.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: That's the title.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: Okay, Now, bradley, this book is killing it.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: I I mean it's sold out everywhere, airports, everyone's buying.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: And then, all of a sudden, a friend of a friend of a friend found out about it.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: Who works at Hulu, who, then people at Netflix found out about it, and then now they're competing for it.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: Someone finally got the script.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: You are now the casting director.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: Tell me who's going to star Brad Owens in this new, critically acclaimed hit movie.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: Oh shit, dot dot dot, that's it.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: I would go back and I'd get 80s michael j fox to play him michael j fox in the 80s.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: Fantastic.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Like.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Are we talking family ties?
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: Are we talking team?
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Like it would be.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: It would be family tie style family, no teen wolf.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Maybe he'll have a a couple stints okay, um, if you were to go on a vacation right now with your wife no kids, where are we going?
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: Anywhere in the caribbean gotta be in the caribbean, okay, and last question tell me two words that describe your wife freaking incredible freaking, incredible, fantastic lightning rounds over.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: Uh, you giggled, iiggled too.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: We'll call it a tie.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: But, dude, it was so fun getting to know you better.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: I loved stories.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: I love that we don't have a script in any of these episodes.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: Everybody we use.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: As much as the three C's are important in the Owens family, I would say those three C's are important in the Jaycox family.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: But curiosity is by far the number one thing that's so important to me and I use curiosity on these podcast episodes.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: Learn more about your fantastic guests that you've had a chance to listen to.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: I want to say thank you to our sponsors.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: I want to say thank you to all the dads who have listened.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: If you've not taken time to share an episode or leave a review wherever you consume your podcast, that would be the biggest gift you can give me and this team behind it, which is me, because we're trying to keep this podcast going as long as we can, and I'm just grateful for all the dads that listen.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: And, brad, I'm grateful for you and your time and I know this is not the last time we're going to be speaking, brother, but thank you for being a guest on the Quarterback Dadcast and I appreciate your time, brother.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: Appreciate it.