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REGURGITATOR - The Real, The Ridiculous And The Weed With QUAN YEOMANS · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: So you guys have been flat out with your tour
• 0:01
  Speaker 1: so far.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've had a bit of a break over the
• 0:04
  Speaker 2: last few weeks and back into it again in the
• 0:07
  Speaker 2: next two I think, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So how's it going so far?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's super fun. Yeah, that's great.
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  Speaker 2: I thought we'd be destroyed because the show is like
• 0:15
  Speaker 2: the longest we've ever done. It's like an hour and
• 0:17
  Speaker 2: fifty five, I think, and then we'll.
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  Speaker 4: Actually lead up to said fifty which is the last
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  Speaker 4: time I see yourself? Yeah, and he said, like it
• 0:26
  Speaker 4: was you know over like you know, the span as
• 0:29
  Speaker 4: long as you've ever done.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, you're gonna have like an intermission.
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  Speaker 2: Or like, well, we tried in admission actually in where
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: was it at the Theater Royale? I think in Castlemone,
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  Speaker 2: and it just didn't work.
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  Speaker 3: It just didn't work.
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  Speaker 2: So we scrapped the costume change and just power through it,
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: which is surprising. I mean, yeah, I'm totally surprised people
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  Speaker 2: hang around for the whole thing, to be honest, it's
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  Speaker 2: really it's too much for me.
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  Speaker 3: It's too much for me.
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  Speaker 4: You never have enough gurd like an hour if you
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  Speaker 4: find just like that's solid, like you OG's are.
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  Speaker 2: There for the whole thing, but I have noticed that
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: no one asked for encore though these days.
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  Speaker 3: At the end of that, then they're over. I can
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  Speaker 3: go home now.
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  Speaker 4: I should do an encore of like some really obscure
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  Speaker 4: cover or something like random.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if we didn't want to get off the
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  Speaker 2: stage ourselves, I think we probably would. But I think
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: I think close to two hours is probably the most
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  Speaker 2: you'd ever want to do as as a performer. Realistically,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how bands do longer.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: I know I've got made to do like you know,
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  Speaker 4: ye three hours and sometimes even four hour like Sunday sessions.
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  Speaker 1: Oh god, it's crazy and it's yeah.
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  Speaker 4: They thought that would have like intermissions, and I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: vocal clause.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like any show that's like over an hour
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  Speaker 2: it's work that starts to feel like work to me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's too much like that when we're not that's.
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  Speaker 3: Right, We're not in it for work absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: Like I played myself like Eddie's grobhouse and cooling like
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  Speaker 4: most Sundays like yeah, and it's good. I'm just like, like,
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  Speaker 4: since something like play based or things do it this around?
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  Speaker 3: It spread out over this.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, sure, yeah, so yes, there's thirty something years of
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  Speaker 4: the Gurge.
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  Speaker 1: How many precisely I'll be celebrating for your still.
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  Speaker 4: Three.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not necessarily a birthday celebration thing. It's more
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  Speaker 2: just doing a bunch of singles that we don't normally play.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of songs that we had to
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  Speaker 2: relearn and google on the internet for the words and
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  Speaker 2: stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is you said that because I still like, oh.
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  Speaker 2: God, it's so easy to forget them right, especially if
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: you don't play them regularly.
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  Speaker 3: It's like a real chore.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, there's there was like fifty over fifty songs
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  Speaker 2: that we released as singles. There's there's just no way
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  Speaker 2: we could have played every single one of them. It
• 2:44
  Speaker 2: was impossible. It would have been like two and a
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  Speaker 2: half hours, three hour, close to three hours, So there's
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  Speaker 2: just no way. But we've kind of picked a few
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  Speaker 2: that we think that people will like and yeah, yeah, it.
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  Speaker 3: Seems to flow quite well.
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  Speaker 4: So it's good, like because I know, like all said,
• 3:00
  Speaker 4: added like extra shows to the roster and it's like
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  Speaker 4: extended and even more so, do you like mix it
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  Speaker 4: up every time?
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  Speaker 1: So you guys aren't bored and like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it's more that we're kind of
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  Speaker 2: we tend to to tweak the show as it goes
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  Speaker 2: so it gets better and better. So we're not kind
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  Speaker 2: of like there's no like lulls that are happening in
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  Speaker 2: weird places, so we have the setlist has changed a
• 3:21
  Speaker 2: little bit over the last several shows, which is good,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it's it's a it's at a good
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  Speaker 2: space now, so it'll probably stay the same for a
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: little while until we get.
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  Speaker 3: Bored of it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, true, true, So I'm propthing to see you guys
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  Speaker 4: in a ended of I think it is when you
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  Speaker 4: do a Byron curs.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeahs always a lovely thing to do up there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I do miss Brisbane from time to time. I
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: do miss the weather and I do miss the people
• 3:42
  Speaker 2: out there. It's awesome.
• 3:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we hit different that way, we're from a different ABRICU.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's cool. I really like it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, you're definitely definitely And I'm well loved and adopted.
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  Speaker 1: Queensland slashed Brisbane. I live in the border so and
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  Speaker 1: I was born in Queensland.
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  Speaker 3: So ah right, well, I was born in.
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  Speaker 2: I was born in Sydney technically, but I lived in
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: Queensland for like fourteen fifteen years.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, so taking it back to when you
• 4:04
  Speaker 4: lived in Brisbane, so you and Ben first met?
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  Speaker 1: Was it on a bus? Is that correct?
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  Speaker 2: This is kind of a bit more of a legend
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  Speaker 2: than reality. I think we can make well the real
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  Speaker 2: is funnier.
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  Speaker 3: Really. He came over to.
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  Speaker 2: My mom's place to score weed off her with the
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  Speaker 2: lead sing of my old, my very first kind of
• 4:22
  Speaker 2: punk fusion bands, Rastia, and they had a little fling
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  Speaker 2: and they were hanging out together. Yeah, they're hanging out together,
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  Speaker 2: and they were like, oh, I know mom Kwan's mom
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  Speaker 2: because she played in a band with me.
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  Speaker 3: She was like, she always has weed.
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  Speaker 2: Why don't you come over with me and we'll grab some.
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  Speaker 2: And so they got some weed off my mom and
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  Speaker 2: the upstairs, and Ben just happened to walk downstairs where
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: I was like tinkering away in the basement on a
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  Speaker 2: four track, and yeah, he heard the stuff and was like, oh,
• 4:48
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize you were You were here and this
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  Speaker 2: sounds really cool and let's maybe have a jam.
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  Speaker 3: So we got together that way.
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  Speaker 1: Really, Oh that that's that's cool.
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  Speaker 2: But we didn't look in the area. We did get
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: on the bus together at some point. He lived in Paddington.
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  Speaker 2: My mum's place was in Baden, So yeah, we to
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  Speaker 2: each other again.
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  Speaker 1: And Brisbane's it really is such a small place.
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  Speaker 4: If you get lost, just like just kick oh you're
• 5:10
  Speaker 4: going a circle and your come background and what you
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  Speaker 4: meant to.
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  Speaker 2: Be exactly exactly, And I mean back then it was
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  Speaker 2: even smaller, like we're talking maybe only a million I
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  Speaker 2: think at the time.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what it's now, but it must be closer.
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  Speaker 4: To Infrastructure has not changed, right, you know, any good
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  Speaker 4: thing for me, because I mean I can get lost
• 5:27
  Speaker 4: in one way street and it's like right, okay at
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  Speaker 4: Mandy Byron Tell for.
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  Speaker 1: A brief period and you can't get lost. It's one way,
• 5:34
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, can full of mail.
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  Speaker 3: Shree, how wow, Okay, I didn't get lost.
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: I'm but Brisbane for some reason, its just it's kind
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 5:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of does. Definitely, the core of the
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: city remains the same the same for sure. Barron Barron's
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  Speaker 2: changed quite a.
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  Speaker 4: Bit, though in my opinion than you it has because
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  Speaker 4: I drive in the barn and I think that's my
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  Speaker 4: stopping ground.
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  Speaker 1: All of my misspent is just about spending Byron Back.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, you guys.
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  Speaker 4: Play actually was inviron in Bin right right, I went.
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  Speaker 4: I think it was the beginning of twenty four. I
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  Speaker 4: think it was when you at the Beachy. Oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm breaking mind you and I drive in there now
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  Speaker 4: and I'm like, he laughs at me. I'm like, just
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  Speaker 4: under basis, where do I turn on?
• 6:12
  Speaker 2: What the hell?
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  Speaker 1: And I but driving the Barn is not.
• 6:14
  Speaker 4: The same, which is one of way for years and
• 6:17
  Speaker 4: now there's like intersections and roundabout things. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's grown immensely, Yeah it has, but I still.
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  Speaker 4: I guess the the core, like you know Johnson Street
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  Speaker 4: that the main pub is fairly well unchanged, which is nice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely, Oh I know, I know.
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  Speaker 2: I think the last time we played there was at
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  Speaker 2: the Beachy, but we had forever played at the barn
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: By Hotel, at the Northern, Yeah, the Northern great normal, right,
• 6:43
  Speaker 2: but yeah, the last one was definitely at the Beachy.
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  Speaker 3: That was cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 4: It's a different because it's changed a lot since obviously
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  Speaker 4: back in the day.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, definitely kin Cater for some you know.
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  Speaker 4: Bigger bands and I've I've seen a few bands there
• 6:54
  Speaker 4: actually yeah yeah it's blatod but actually at the back
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  Speaker 4: room on Yews Day the evening seeing Dave's are part
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  Speaker 4: of the Crystpalell collection, which is mind you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah they are, they really good.
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  Speaker 4: So they did a gig there and oh it still
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  Speaker 4: has that funky smell from like, you know, exchange in
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  Speaker 4: the back room, so you'd be quite at.
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: Home, I can guarantee.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. We listen to a bit of
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  Speaker 3: sound Garden actually lately.
• 7:22
  Speaker 4: The sound Guard that were you a slave and a
• 7:25
  Speaker 4: temple dog and you closure eyes and you think that's him?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, very tight.
• 7:32
  Speaker 4: So the recommend twenty first of fair but I think
• 7:35
  Speaker 4: they're at the Polio Hotel, so yeah, okay, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 4: it's exciting and I don't often hear a couple bands
• 7:41
  Speaker 4: are like, I mean, look, they have their plays and whatnot.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, a friend of mine players in a Talking
• 7:46
  Speaker 2: Heads come a band that went and saw the other's.
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  Speaker 1: It's like like the mainstream and like sound Garden hasn't
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  Speaker 1: really been done either, so.
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  Speaker 3: That's yeah, totally. No, it was fun. It was super fun.
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  Speaker 3: They're hard hard to nail. Like the rhythm.
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: The rhythm of Talking Heads is so so so tight
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: and so complex at the same time. It's really hard
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: to get that feel. But it was super fun night,
• 8:06
  Speaker 2: so I totally get it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Look I want to start a whole
• 8:10
  Speaker 1: cover band. I'm like, no, it needs to be like
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: needs to.
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  Speaker 3: Be, dude.
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  Speaker 2: That sound is definitely coming back, Like we played with
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: We played with a really cool all girl band of
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: male drummer in Sale recently at a community hall and
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  Speaker 2: they were awesome and they had that if they were
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: if they came out in the nineties, they would have
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: been huge because it was like really good vocalists, really
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: good guitarists, great bass player, really good drummer and it
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  Speaker 2: just had that sound.
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  Speaker 3: It's weird, really weird. It all comes around, doesn't it.
• 8:40
  Speaker 4: It does, it does, and it's like, you know, everything
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  Speaker 4: the nineties is coming back now, and you know, I
• 8:45
  Speaker 4: just think I have this discussion with the you know
• 8:46
  Speaker 4: a number of friends who are artists and musicians, and
• 8:49
  Speaker 4: it just hasn't really been proper good Aussie like cover rock,
• 8:54
  Speaker 4: Yoursells and Grinspoon and that kind of era.
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  Speaker 1: It hasn't come back around again and we're like thirsty.
• 8:58
  Speaker 3: For its, like are you Yeah?
• 9:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I started doing this OT course recently, just a diploma
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: of screenwriting in the city, and there's some young kids
• 9:07
  Speaker 2: doing it as well as slate, middle aged people and
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: older people. But I'm really like one of the I
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: think one of the boyfriends of one of the girls
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: that was doing my course was like really into oz
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: pub pub rock, and I found that really bizarre, Like
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: a nineteen year old into like old school Australian crawl,
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: angels stuff really strange to me.
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  Speaker 4: And seeing these eighteen year olds and knew all the
• 9:30
  Speaker 4: words to like the Angels, and I'm.
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: Like, really strange, and I'm like how, Like yeah, that's nuts,
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: isn't it Really strange? And when we are seeing like
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: younger people come to our shows as well, which are
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: like how did you find out?
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: And a lot of the time it's the parents, but
• 9:45
  Speaker 3: sometimes they just want to fall.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: They just may random playlists and we end up on
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  Speaker 3: them and they just like what is this? Yeah, it's cool.
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  Speaker 3: I like that a lot.
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  Speaker 1: It is very cool.
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  Speaker 4: And I do these interviews but a lot with your
• 9:56
  Speaker 4: artists internationally, and that's one thing we talk about is
• 9:59
  Speaker 4: these bands that are like, you know, our fan favorite.
• 10:01
  Speaker 4: It's all doing an anniversary tour and I'm loving being
• 10:03
  Speaker 4: middle aged right about. They've got this younger following and
• 10:07
  Speaker 4: it's from like Spotify and TikTok and they have these
• 10:11
  Speaker 4: they end up on the playlist like you said, and then.
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: They just go, oh, they think it's new music. They're like, oh,
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: these like slaps and I.
• 10:17
  Speaker 4: Think it was either Googoo dolls or excuse me some
• 10:22
  Speaker 4: of the random bed this huge like comeback and it's
• 10:26
  Speaker 4: from that. And one of the guys from Amblem I
• 10:31
  Speaker 4: said to me when I was doing an interview, what
• 10:33
  Speaker 4: it's really good for is like obviously, you know, like
• 10:36
  Speaker 4: Spotify hard to make money out of it, but what
• 10:38
  Speaker 4: it does do is it sets them up for like
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: their concerts and so they've got people coming where you
• 10:43
  Speaker 4: know the money is and.
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: Like live gigs have merged.
• 10:45
  Speaker 4: And that's a really cool way to look at it,
• 10:47
  Speaker 4: Like it's you know that's set up to it's just
• 10:49
  Speaker 4: different now you know it's not.
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: It's absolutely absolutely it's just different.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I feel that I've got off Spotify and
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: I tried to get the band off as well, because
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: it absolutely do not agree with any anything that is now,
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: but you're right. I mean that is definitely a way.
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: TikTok and Instagram and all that stuff they do get
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: exposed to this random random stuff, and the chaotic random
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  Speaker 2: stuff is really cool.
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  Speaker 1: Make that algorithm work for yourself.
• 11:13
  Speaker 3: I know, and even my sons who are really quite young. Yeah,
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: they play me.
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: They played me random songs from the eighties which I've
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: never heard, like album tracks from like Ultravox. I'd never
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: heard this song called Sleepwalk before. It's an awesome track,
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: and I would never have heard it if he didn't,
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: if a gamer guy had not played it or had
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: it on a playlist that he recognized. And then he
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: brings it to me, and I'm going, wow, this is
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: actually a really cool track that would have been lost
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: in the annals of time if I've edded me dug
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: up like that?
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: Really, And I guess that's the cool thing about AI,
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: the new technology.
• 11:44
  Speaker 4: It literally grabs everything from everywhere, so potentially anything you.
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: Know should be brought back again.
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: And yeah, that's true.
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: It's a wild, wild it's a world war. Believing at
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: it is twenty six has turned out to be in grace.
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're in an odd spot right now, you
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  Speaker 3: know what I think.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks Lord or whoever it is, the universe or music,
• 12:09
  Speaker 4: because it's like went doubt, just like turn to the Chunes.
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  Speaker 3: It's just exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And that's kind of what I keep doing it for,
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: you know, just to relieve the stress of the the
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: general feeling that's around us.
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: Definitely helpful.
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: Absolutely so. A few obscure questions for your pints two Playing,
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  Speaker 1: your very.
• 12:28
  Speaker 4: First album that you asked about. Yes, now, the name
• 12:32
  Speaker 4: for too Playing came from your mom.
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  Speaker 1: Is that great?
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: No, my mom's god to me is it's actually a
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: Thaire word.
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  Speaker 2: Because we recorded a record in Thailand, just outside of
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: Bangkok in a really strange studio that was all owned
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: by a massive Thai band that like sold fifty million
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: records some ridiculous amount in Thailand and they had this
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: studio complex set up. So we recorded that record there,
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: which is a great experience and only over three weeks
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: I think. But we like the sound of two plug
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: and a means jukebox in Thai.
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  Speaker 4: So that's kind of sitting to where you guys are
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  Speaker 4: jukeboxing now, Yeah, exactly.
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: Your excellent and so regurgitated where did it come from?
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: And why I need to know? That's that's a meat question.
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  Speaker 2: I think we were in that headspace where we've, like
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: we've talked about when you get to a certain kind
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: of level of understanding of music or whatever art form
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: it is, you realize that you're always standing on the
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: on the shoulders of giants, right, Nothing comes from nowhere.
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: You're always being fed influencers and using those influences in
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: your own way.
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  Speaker 1: And that's every note's already been played before. That's what
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: I always say.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And I always say that our particular sound
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: came from us trying to ape our heroes and just
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: doing doing a really bad job of it. And that's
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: where your individual sound comes from. You try and emulate
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Prince, or you try and emulate Hendrix
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: or whatever, and you come up with this weird version
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: of it, which is all the minds that you're working
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: with at the time. So the drummer that we worked with,
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: Martin and Ben and whoever we're working with, it's all
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: those influences coming from us trying to emulate our heroes,
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: and we come up with our own sound that way,
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: And so that's how it regurgitated out.
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: It was just kind of cool.
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: That's it's pretty understanding how it's like, you know, because
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: you guys are obviously known as you're being a parody,
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: the Kings of piss Tapers, I like to pull it
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: and yeah, so it's always your lyrics and music itself.
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: If it takes the time to listen to it, it's funny,
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: but it's smart funny, and I've always I've really always
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: admired that. That sh.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: That's very kind of you to say.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: I'm actually always amazed at how people don't listen to lyrics,
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: like they just maybe they leave it for a long
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: time and then they get to it, or maybe they
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: just ignore it completely and just go for the vibe
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: of the song or whatever. I'm always amazed by that
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: because for me, the lyrics are always important to me.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: I always listen to lyrics, and if the lyrics are crap,
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: even if it's a great pop song or whatever, I'm
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: kind of it's a weak part of the song for me,
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: whereas other people just don't care.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: It's really strange.
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there are some odd combinations of lyrics and
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: it's just like that just seven makes sense, and so yeah,
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: it means like if I don't like get it like
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: in that sense, it's it's hard to then I guess.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: Bob songs that just doesn't Yeah, yeah, for me, it's
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: a big obviously, lyrics.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: Are yea words you know, words are kind of important.
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: So it's more powerful than the sword. It's where I
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: always say, it's you know, you can like maths and
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: like writing, you can later teaching math there's no device
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: that will speak right for you. So being able to
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: articulate yourself and speak I know right.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: During part of this course, I've been looking.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: I looked into some AI stuff to see what it
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: was like, and my god, the writing part is so bad.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: It's so bad, Like it's terrible. You ask you're trying
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: to ask you to write a scene or rewrite a
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: scene or something like. It just messes it up every time.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: It's such a slot. And then being a.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: Journal like I was, I was taught like old school tradition,
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: you know, like yeah, yeah, yeah, totally your five golden
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: your five five w's and the h you know who
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: what way were in white?
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: How?
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: You know, that's that's essential in the first part. And
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: then like to go on and not not try and
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: be you know, one way or another, not offense to
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: her either.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: And it's it's.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: Delicate, you know, yeah, it's human. It's a human exploit.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: But you just see so much for journalism now, and
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: I think it's because you know, there's no like race
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: to the type of deadline anymore. It's like who can
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: get uploaded the quickest online, So people journals who are
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: subbing their own stuff that it really shouldn't be.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: It's hard to do like anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah, And
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: it's just the quality and it's.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: I know, it's hard, it's really hard.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: So therefore I take my writing to music and write
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: my own lyrics exactly it out there.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: And I think it's important to take the time. I mean,
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: there's a reason they call it a work of art, right,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: You've got to put the work in. If you're not
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: putting the work in and people see it like that's why,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: that's why AIS looks like slop because there's no work,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: there's no there's no heuristic of work in the in
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: the piece, then it's not an artwork.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: It's not.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: I mean you can take bits and pieces of any
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: can joy inspiration and whatnot, and just like that fresh idea.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: So which alignment?
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: Why do I use quite regularly and it's great for that,
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: but yeah, you just go or bang copy paste like
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's it's worse. Yeah, it's even lazier,
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: and it's agree, it's more noticeable.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: And it's really interesting how many of the young people
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: that I see in my course and just out there
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: that don't like it, they don't like AI, which is
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: really surprising. I thought that more people like embracing the
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: technology because they're young, but they really are against it,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: which is really cool to see.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: Takes away certain autonomy for ourselves and that's right, you know,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: it's like the muscle that you would.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Keep working out at.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you're if you're producing a piece of
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: work and you put the work into it, you can
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: connect with it, right, But if you're not putting the
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: work in there's no connection. For the artists, so not
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: really doing art, you're just like pressing buttons. It's boring, nis, yeah, exactly,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: it's weird.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, as I said, like you guys are
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: the thes and parody and whatnot, And so I guess
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: the question is like, if you guys were you know,
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: today to reproduce what you were doing back then, and
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: I mean in the world that were everything's remix of all,
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: everything's amimeable. Would you say that your early work is
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: prophetic or more just annoyingly accurate?
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: I don't really know.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's really interesting that when you become a
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: band that's been around for thirty years, you play that
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: you play that music over and over and over again. Right,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: You're playing the music that you wrote when you were
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: twenty two or twenty three. So it is quite bizarre.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: It's a weird experience and a weird relationship to have
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: with your older self. Yeah, I feel like a poor
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: as much energy into lyrics now as I did then.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: But you have a different kind of approach when you're younger,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: and you care less out the audience in a lot
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: of ways. When you when you develop success, the problem
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: is often that you start thinking about your audience.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, and it's a big mistake.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: It is I was listening to and actually put me
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: onto Grubin's the creative that. Oh yeah, that's one of
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: the things that he said is that.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: When you're producing art, audiences comes last. It doesn't matter.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, that's right.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: But yeah, like you say, when you're doing it, it's
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: hard to not be conscious and like you know, aware
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: of that to a degree it makes it.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: And when I listen to my old staff and I
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: look at the structures of the songs, I think, how
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: the hell did I come up with those structures? Like
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: songs like ipis Alone and Iffy's Simplicity. The chords are
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: really really not they don't they're not obvious, and they're
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: really strange.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys have a different way of like making music.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think that's when you're young.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: You just kind of experiment a lot more and you
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: care less about the outcome, and therefore it's more original
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: and really strange and unique. Whereas you get a little
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: older and you start taking fewer risks, and that's where
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: the music kind of starts get a little bit staid,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: a little bit boring times. So I mean, if you can,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I mean some artists can do it, like you know,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: David Bowie, people who reinvent themselves constantly do it. For
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: that reason, I think, to not not get into that
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: comfort zone, comfort zone where you're not really testing yourself
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: and pushing boundaries and stuff. So yeah, if you want
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: a long career, it's definitely important to do that for.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Sure, to like re meet yourself.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: I guess you guys are, you know, still doing your
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: thing and adapting, and you guys have adapted to you know,
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: be able to.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Do we have.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: We have a very kind of a very solid core moral,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: ethical core to the band and that comes through everything
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: we do.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, and the music still has that.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: But like I said, when you're younger, you're just kind
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: of a little bit more rough around the edges and
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: you take a few more risks, and that's why the
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: music tends to have that vibrancy that often disappears as
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: you get older.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, And I guess you know, there's
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: that of the old adage of like not knowing what
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: you are until afterwards. You know that clientsight looking back,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: but yeah, totally you know understanding and you know in
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: your twenty three you definitely zero.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Then again, that's right.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I think, you know sometimes I think now in my
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: mid forties and I have a birthday last week page
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: of forty sixteen days. That's nice back, and I go,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I think give.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Less of a fuck now, Dan and a lot of
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: sense as well. But it's taking that liberty and having
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: more conscious awareness of why I give less.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Of a funk, not just be careless and like you know,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: absolutely native courage is what I used to call it
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: in my twenties.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, that's exactly what you know.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I could do so much more now that I have
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: that wisdom.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: But oh, look, you know, when you when you're touring
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: a band for as long as we have, you don't
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I kind of missed that creative kind of spark that
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: you have with people that you you have friction with
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: in the studio, and it does create a competitive kind
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: of edge and gives you those unique pathways to really
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: fight for. But honestly, touring with people you do not
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: get along with or have that kind of competitive edge
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: to them is a nightmare. And now it's way easier
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: to tour with my band because they're more like a family,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: is none of this kind of infighting.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: It's much easier, it's easy going, it's.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Lovely together forever. And Sarah like, what a great addition.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: She's she's she's really great and she was always there right, Yeah,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: she's perfect for the band.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: So we're very lucky to have found her.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: And yeah, i'd much I'd take it over over having
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: that creative spark to be honest, any day, because it's just.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Like being in a bad marriage with four other people.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: If you can get it to the point where it's
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: a good marriage and everything's working, you know you've got
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: your set for a long time.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that's that's the against longevity is,
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: you know, accepting differences and not that massive you know, creative.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: We have togo to some degree to do what we do,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: know when to leave it behind and when to take
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: it on.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: As it gets easier when you get older. I think
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: it's really hard to spot that when you're young. I mean,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I've recently spoke to Martin after not seeing him for
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: twenty years.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: I accidentally ran into him.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard that story before, but
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I literally bumped into him on the street in Melbourne
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: after not seeing him for twenty years, not speaking for
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: twenty five, sorry, not seeing him for twenty five, not
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: speaking for twenty and the last time we spoke he
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: kind of We had a nice conversation, but then he
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: threatened to assue me at the end. Of the conversation,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, bye, it sounds he was just random,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: randomly on the street in Melbourne and we had a
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: long conversation. The next day I met him for coffee
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: and yeah, it was like speaking to a completely different person.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: You know, we're like old guys. Now, we've been through
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: a lot, and it was nice to be able to catch.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Up and just talk about the other days, like your
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: soul self.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Right now, I could probably too with him again and
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: it would be fine. But back then it was hard,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Like it was really hard for everyone, for him as well.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: I'm sure, you know, dealing with you some of the
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: you know, it sounds very similar to another band that
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: I know they had. They caught people and they had
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: differences and again come back, it's like friends Suils Just.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, you sold your rights, you know, well in the
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: back again, I've got what you need. It's gonna costume.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, egos are hard like you to step away from.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: But it's really nice if you can reconnect with someone
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: with a much older it's really a lovely experience.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, yeah so yourself.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Actually, you guys were actually one of the first bands
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: I've ever seen, Yes, and it was here locally at
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: the High School of the Football fields, right. Yeah. It
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: was a dd you are an underade AIDS concept and
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: that was in spite the way it played. And I
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: was at the very front, like against like the water barriers,
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: and you guys are playing and the crowd just like
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: and little old me just like true and I think
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: you stopped the show so like security dragged me out
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: and I got like taken away, but I'm like best.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Fig that's it was. It was like, you know, it
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: certainly didn't know me, and now I'm just like, yeah,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: that always like it hurts.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: I've seen the Cosmic Psychos last week and which was
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: really cool.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: It was like so much chests thrown and beer in
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: like one's face. It was crazy. And I was just
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: back because no, my eye I have to like, you know,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: do media and I'm in the hit whatnot.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: It was nice because Chris was there and I'm another
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: photophs was there, so I'm like, just enjoy the show.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: This is really cool.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: So I was just a back bit from the Circle
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: of Death in front of me and I'm like, oh,
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: I saw. I'm like trying to like just go no,
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: it's okay. This is normal, and then thinking about going,
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: it's how did I survived? I was in the think
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: of it now, I'm like, get away from.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Me, encourage you talking about exactly.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome, thank you so much.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: Fun