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The Late Debate | 26 September · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Late Welcome to the Late Base.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thanks to your company.
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  Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and filling in for
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  Speaker 3: Caleb Bond, who you just watched on the Paul Murray
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  Speaker 3: Live program, The Brilliant, our great mate, Joe Hilda Brand.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know who's who anymore, Caleb Bond. Then Paul
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  Speaker 4: Murray's there, and then I'm here and Caleb's there, and
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  Speaker 4: you're there, and I feel like Dorothy when she wakes
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  Speaker 4: up from.
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  Speaker 1: The dream and a Wizard of Oscess. And you were there,
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  Speaker 1: and you were there, and you were there, and you
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  Speaker 1: were there.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be fine. We're glad you were.
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  Speaker 3: With a stick around coming up, Coca Cola ban the
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  Speaker 3: names Jesus and Trump from personalized cans will show you
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  Speaker 3: that a little later. Plus, when we look at the papers,
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  Speaker 3: Treasurer Jim Chalmers arrives in China as the Chinese fire
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  Speaker 3: missiles over the Pacific Ocean, and in news that will
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  Speaker 3: excite pigeons everywhere, former Victorian Premier Dan Andrews to get
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  Speaker 3: a bronze statue. All of that when we look at
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  Speaker 3: the papers a little later. But first everyone's feeling the
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  Speaker 3: cost of living pressures, and nowhere more so than at
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  Speaker 3: your local supermarket, where a trolley of groceries will pretty
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  Speaker 3: much require a second mortgage these days. But in a
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  Speaker 3: report from consumer group Choice, they've shown that if you
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  Speaker 3: get your groceries from Eld, you can save around fifteen
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  Speaker 3: dollars on a basket of just fourteen essential items. A
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  Speaker 3: basket of fruit, milk, cheese and bread will set you
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  Speaker 3: back fifty dollars at Eld, but check out this, It'll
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  Speaker 3: be sixty six dollars at Coal, sixty eight dollars at Woolies,
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  Speaker 3: and seventy eight at IgA for the exact same items. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I say all of that to ask this question, if
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  Speaker 3: you can save that much money shopping at Eld, why
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  Speaker 3: don't more people like these?
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  Speaker 2: For instance, what's your tipmarket.
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  Speaker 5: Puts Audi because they have the cheapest.
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  Speaker 6: Really, we used to shop Cole's Woolers all the time,
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  Speaker 6: and then we've switched to Aldi just to get better value.
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  Speaker 7: Way too expensive. I shop at Aldi because you can
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  Speaker 7: save by my umbrella?
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  Speaker 8: Is Aldi always your grocer of choice? It is?
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  Speaker 6: It is?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely, it's way cheaper. I've compared prices Nladi's always
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  Speaker 7: comes out on top. So it's yeah, definitely the ones
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  Speaker 7: to go. You can't get everything there, but so you
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  Speaker 7: have to go to Coles and Woolies. But yeah, Aldi's
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  Speaker 7: the one for me.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, now I don't know what Liz and Joe do,
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  Speaker 3: but let me tell you. I refuse to shop at
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  Speaker 3: Eldie because I don't want to buy my groceries from
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  Speaker 3: what effectively seems very much like a garage sale.
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  Speaker 2: I mean literally, you can buy a piece.
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  Speaker 1: Of salamo after the special buy, so you.
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  Speaker 3: Can buy a piece of salami and a dick chair
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  Speaker 3: and they're right beside each other. I tell you true story.
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  Speaker 3: My sister Rachel, she sent her husband Josh off to
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  Speaker 3: Eldie to get some ingredients for dinner.
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  Speaker 2: And he came back with a trumpet. And I'm not
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  Speaker 2: making that. So I just Eldie does my head in.
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  Speaker 1: I can't.
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  Speaker 2: I can't figure it out.
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  Speaker 6: They have a bigger range. I mean that is perfectly normal.
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  Speaker 8: In the States.
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  Speaker 6: By the way, they're supermarkets are also kind of like
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  Speaker 6: half supermarket half km art, so it's perfectly normal.
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  Speaker 2: I can't deal with that.
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  Speaker 8: No, it's perfectly deal with that.
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  Speaker 6: Well. Obviously a lot of Australians can as per those boxes. Also,
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  Speaker 6: this is the one supermarket out of the duopoly anyway,
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  Speaker 6: outside of the duopoly rather that isn't being investigated by
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  Speaker 6: the A Triple C for ripping you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm okay with that, right spot of.
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  Speaker 6: These massive companies that are deliberately ripping you off to
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  Speaker 6: your face and you're like, I don't mind take my money.
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  Speaker 6: Another reason to shop at Aldi is that they're not
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  Speaker 6: owned like Coles and Woolworths are by black Rock, Vanguard
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  Speaker 6: and State Street. If you know, you know, those are
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  Speaker 6: the three biggest shareholders state Street of Coals, black Rock
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  Speaker 6: and Vanguard of Woolies.
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  Speaker 8: I take every.
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  Speaker 6: Opportunity not to give those flogs my money.
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  Speaker 1: What do you to? I love a bit of Aldie.
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  Speaker 4: I got suck it into the fly by scheme though,
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  Speaker 4: and I literally dropped more than six hundred dollars at
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  Speaker 4: Coals just the for you to get at home, and
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  Speaker 4: then my wife yell at me for forgetting something and
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  Speaker 4: had to go back to another Coals and spend another
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  Speaker 4: forty bucks. Admittedly all the children six hundreds had well
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  Speaker 4: the children. The children are all wearing basically Hessian sacks
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  Speaker 4: for clothes, and we had to get home.
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  Speaker 8: This is where Aldie.
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  Speaker 4: I do love Aldi, and I bought your laugh at
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  Speaker 4: the trumpet. I bought two guitars, three guitar stands, the leads,
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  Speaker 4: everything for so no, this is the thing because you
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  Speaker 4: walk in there for the salami and then go, oh
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  Speaker 4: my god, I just realized I need a deck chair.
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  Speaker 1: It's like I did it before it.
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  Speaker 8: And it's a really well price.
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  Speaker 4: And it's a really well priced, high quality deck chair
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  Speaker 4: and it was fantastic. I'm and Coles have now started
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  Speaker 4: introducing the special buyers as well own special buyers section,
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  Speaker 4: and I actually I actually bought an outdoor fire.
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  Speaker 1: Pit from.
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  Speaker 8: But I just their target mark.
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  Speaker 4: I've been on the way home for some milk, so
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  Speaker 4: I have an absolute I have an absolute suckle.
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  Speaker 2: I think we had some vision there of some of
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  Speaker 2: the random stuff you can get.
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  Speaker 8: That's the whole purpose, right.
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  Speaker 6: You don't go to Aldi to buy a trumpet or
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  Speaker 6: a deck chair. You go there to get your groceries,
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  Speaker 6: and just like someone walking out and they know what
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  Speaker 6: they're doing, putting all the chocolate bars and the chewing
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  Speaker 6: gum and the breath mints right there at the checkout,
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  Speaker 6: So people go, oh yeah, actually, oh, grab a few
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  Speaker 6: of those.
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  Speaker 8: On my way out.
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  Speaker 6: People see the special buys and realize, look at all
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  Speaker 6: the stuff I don't need but want, and walk out
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  Speaker 6: with half of that as well.
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  Speaker 8: It's a genius marketing.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, it's.
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  Speaker 4: Even more ingenious than you think, because while some people
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  Speaker 4: might just go in there and say, oh my god,
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  Speaker 4: what's this doing here, if you get the Aldi catalog,
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  Speaker 4: it will tell you in advance what the special buys
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  Speaker 4: are going to be on any given date, and you
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  Speaker 4: will have a week's note so you can get in first,
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  Speaker 4: and you will have people like they have had. They
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  Speaker 4: had dice and vacuum cleaners for a while, and it
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  Speaker 4: was like it was like going over the top in
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  Speaker 4: the Battle of the Song. There were people just at
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  Speaker 4: the gates, at the doors, just heaving, and as soon
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  Speaker 4: as they open they just I mean shoppers that shop
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  Speaker 4: with tactical military proceisure.
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  Speaker 3: You to have totally convinced me tomorrow I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: go to Eldie get some milk, some cheese, some yogurt
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  Speaker 3: and a bass drum.
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  Speaker 8: Well, well, thank us. In fact, you can give us
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  Speaker 8: the difference.
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  Speaker 1: In our long range. They'll do it headstreamer.
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  Speaker 4: They always seem to have those for some reason. Let's
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  Speaker 4: see the dairy isle.
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  Speaker 2: Let's move on.
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  Speaker 3: The habit of indigenous activists objecting to everything because of
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  Speaker 3: its links with colonialism has come back to bite them
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  Speaker 3: and bite them hard. Back in twenty twenty two, the
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  Speaker 3: New South Wales Coalition committed to giving the New South
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  Speaker 3: Wales or Sydney Rather Museum to Indigenous folk and make
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  Speaker 3: it an Indigenous hub. But today Labour's Arts Minister John
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  Speaker 3: Graham has announced they've scraped that plan because the museum
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  Speaker 3: has been built over the top of the ruins of
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  Speaker 3: Arthur Phillips's old cottage and therefore it would be an
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  Speaker 3: inappropriate place for an indigenous hub.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I was so sure you were going to say
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  Speaker 1: Indian graveyard.
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  Speaker 3: Well that would have been inappropriate too, But indigenous activists
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  Speaker 3: are very upset about that, saying no, no, no, the links
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  Speaker 3: between the museum and colonial past are suddenly unimportant. Black rogers,
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  Speaker 3: who's a indigenous artist. He said, it's somewhat hypocritical for
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  Speaker 3: the government not to consider it when Aboriginal people have
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  Speaker 3: raised concerns about other sites and the colonial Captain Cook
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  Speaker 3: statue in Hyde Park, and the government hasn't done anything
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  Speaker 3: about that. So they're saying it's just an excuse by
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  Speaker 3: this labor government who don't want to follow through with
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  Speaker 3: this commitment to make the museum an indigenous hub. But
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  Speaker 3: the government is saying no, no, it would be inappropriate. It's
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  Speaker 3: got colonials links will have to find another venue.
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  Speaker 2: Who's right.
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  Speaker 6: I mean this has got to be a because for once,
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  Speaker 6: a site of historical significance colonial significance is saved by
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  Speaker 6: its colonial significance.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, we've got all these moves to take down
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  Speaker 8: this statue of Captain Cook and replace it.
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  Speaker 6: With something indigenous. For once, it's like, no, no, because
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  Speaker 6: it was Arthur Phillips's home base.
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  Speaker 8: We're not going to go through with this anymore.
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  Speaker 6: I just can't believe that it was a coalition government
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  Speaker 6: who agreed.
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  Speaker 8: To do this because by virtue.
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  Speaker 6: Of being Arthur Phillips's former home now Sydney's museum. It's
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  Speaker 6: a Sydney of one of the it's a museum of
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  Speaker 6: one of the greatest cities in the world, certainly the
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  Speaker 6: greatest city in our fair nation. Come on, even if
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  Speaker 6: you don't agree with that, you've got to admit we're
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  Speaker 6: the most beautiful. I mean, why wouldn't you want the
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  Speaker 6: City of Sydney Museum to remain as is and just
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  Speaker 6: promise a different indigenous hub that is indeed actually dedicated
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  Speaker 6: to being an Indigenous habit rather than ripping one to
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  Speaker 6: give the other one.
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  Speaker 4: That is exactly what the Min's Labor government is doing. Liz,
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  Speaker 4: thank you for your support, but yeah, it is. It
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  Speaker 4: is really weird. I think there is something in what
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  Speaker 4: you said about people I know are now so anxious
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  Speaker 4: and are anticipating every possible sort of angle of outrage
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  Speaker 4: coming at them that they're sort of preemptively killing off
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  Speaker 4: things that the Indigenous Committey would actually want because I
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  Speaker 4: think I know that someone's going to get upset by this.
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  Speaker 4: I think it would have been probably a nice bit
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  Speaker 4: of kind of I don't know, not harmer or pobetic justice,
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  Speaker 4: but a nice bit of sort of closure.
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  Speaker 1: That's a horrible word to say, All right, we are
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  Speaker 1: going to you know, we are going to have this.
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  Speaker 4: Place, which is, you know, ultimately the intersection of these
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  Speaker 4: two worlds when they first collided in seven and eighty
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  Speaker 4: eight and lived in harmony for quite some time thereafter. Incidentally,
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  Speaker 4: but you know, and we're going to have that there.
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  Speaker 4: I think you could just as easily make an argument,
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  Speaker 4: well why not preserve, you know, I preserve the Museum
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  Speaker 4: of Sydney as this sort of you know, there is
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  Speaker 4: some Indigenous stuff there, but as this kind of you know,
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  Speaker 4: exhibition of the very earliest sort of colonial settlement, and
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  Speaker 4: have the indigenous stuff somewhere else that's purpose built.
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  Speaker 1: But again, isn't the real I mean even when like I.
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  Speaker 4: Said, oh, you know, it's ironic given that we've raised
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  Speaker 4: concerns about other sites than the colonial Captain Cook statue
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  Speaker 4: in Hyde Park and the government hasn't done anything about that.
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  Speaker 4: I think it shows how confused and and sort of
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  Speaker 4: foggy this issue against But yes, we're not talking about
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  Speaker 4: like do the Aboriginal people want their hub to be
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  Speaker 4: in Hyde Park where the statue is?
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  Speaker 1: Do they want that or they want to come down.
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  Speaker 6: One particular activity polish replacement, which is which is thankfully
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  Speaker 6: what MINS.
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  Speaker 8: Has said no to here.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the difference.
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  Speaker 3: It's because they're getting something, so they don't mind the
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  Speaker 3: colonial links, whereas if it was just a colonial monument
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  Speaker 3: then they would.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think there's anything there's any suggestion that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the remains of Arthur Phillips Cottage should be demolished in
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  Speaker 4: the same way that they would want the cap Cook Statue,
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  Speaker 4: presumably torn down as people have tried to tear it down.
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  Speaker 4: So there just seems to be all this energy in
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  Speaker 4: all these weird, kind of specific and not entirely coherent
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  Speaker 4: claims instead of just getting stuff done.
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  Speaker 2: It'd be hilarious if that's right.
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  Speaker 8: That anyway, Well, Kamala Harris has fight.
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  Speaker 6: We've been talking endlessly about the fact that this woman
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  Speaker 6: needs to do more interviews. We want answers. You're running
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  Speaker 6: for the most important job in the world. Can we
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  Speaker 6: please get some straight answers. So she finally sat down
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  Speaker 6: with MSNBC's host Stephanie Ruler, and you would not believe
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  Speaker 6: the softball questions. Here's one about Kamala's time at macus.
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  Speaker 9: Your opponent almost every day seems to be talking about this.
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  Speaker 8: So I just want to ask you yes or no?
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  Speaker 8: At any point in.
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  Speaker 9: Your life have you served to all beef patties, special
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  Speaker 9: cells and Leni's cheese Take those onions on. Looking at
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  Speaker 9: Adam MacDonald's yes or no, that's it. I have okay,
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  Speaker 9: now the other job, but it was not a small
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  Speaker 9: job like I do, Rie.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, you know, oh incredible.
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  Speaker 6: That's one that she could answer really confidently. Not so
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  Speaker 6: much when Stephanie asked Kamala about so, with all these
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  Speaker 6: taxes that you intend to raise in order to fund
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  Speaker 6: all the things that you're going to pony for everyone,
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  Speaker 6: a pony for everyone's pony, what if you can't raise
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  Speaker 6: the taxes, What if you don't have the support in
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  Speaker 6: both the houses that you need in order to pull
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  Speaker 6: this off.
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  Speaker 8: Kamala should have just said I don't know. Instead, she
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  Speaker 8: said this.
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  Speaker 9: You mentioned housing before giving that extra money for a
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  Speaker 9: first home. If you can't raise corporate taxes, or if
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  Speaker 9: GOP takes control of the Senate, where do you get
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  Speaker 9: the money to do that? Do you still go forward
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  Speaker 9: those plans and borrow?
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  Speaker 10: Well, but we're going to have to read corporate taxes
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  Speaker 10: and we're gonna have to raise We're going to have
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  Speaker 10: to make sure that the biggest corporations and billionaires pay
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  Speaker 10: their fresh share.
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  Speaker 8: That's just it, lady.
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  Speaker 6: If all the polls are correct, you're looking at a
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  Speaker 6: pretty divided government.
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  Speaker 8: Even if you do make it to the White House.
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  Speaker 6: The question is what are you going to do if
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  Speaker 6: you don't have the support to raise said taxes.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, we're just going to have to do it, though,
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  Speaker 8: We're just going to have to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Look at her face.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was just terrible, terrified.
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  Speaker 4: It's like that was like, Oh my god, that's never
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  Speaker 4: occurred to me before.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean you mean? So it's always like
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  Speaker 1: she was.
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  Speaker 3: And then when she's saying, but we're just going to
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  Speaker 3: have to do it, it almost gives her time to
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  Speaker 3: remember her pre programmed lines because then she gets onto
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  Speaker 3: everyone's got to pay their fair share, and her face
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  Speaker 3: brightens up because now she's back on familiar territory and
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  Speaker 3: she just share a nauseum for about the next sixty seconds,
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  Speaker 3: hoping that the next question will yeah, which.
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  Speaker 8: Makes absolutely no sense now.
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  Speaker 6: Prior to doing this interview with Kamala, Rula had been
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  Speaker 6: very much defending her a week prior, saying, even if
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  Speaker 6: Kamala wouldn't budge in saying that Hamas should still have
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  Speaker 6: a role in the leadership in Gaza going forward.
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  Speaker 8: You're not going to vote for Trump, are you?
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  Speaker 11: It's not too much to ask Kamala say, are you
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  Speaker 11: for a Palestinian state if Hamas is going to run that.
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  Speaker 1: State, Okay, yes or no?
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  Speaker 9: And let's say you don't like her answer, Are you
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  Speaker 9: going to vote for Donald Trump?
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  Speaker 8: No, I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to vote.
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  Speaker 9: Not running for perfect, She's running against Trump.
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  Speaker 8: We have two choices.
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  Speaker 6: Incredible, even if she says that a terrorist group should
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  Speaker 6: still rule and reign in Gaza.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, you're not going to vote for Trump?
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  Speaker 1: Are you call off the election? No one's going to
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  Speaker 1: vote for Trump. So why even have an election?
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  Speaker 3: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Why did I have an interview?
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  Speaker 6: And asked, But after this absolute bomb of an interview,
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  Speaker 6: even Stephanie Ruler changed her tune, saying, yet Kamala couldn't
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  Speaker 6: even answer how she was going to do these tax
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  Speaker 6: raisers if she didn't have the support of the houses.
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  Speaker 9: She doesn't answer the question around if the GOP is
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  Speaker 9: controlling the Senate, if she can't raise corporate taxes, where
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  Speaker 9: is she going to get the money from, you know,
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  Speaker 9: to expand the child's tax credit and do all the
• 15:34
  Speaker 9: things she wants to do, And she says, we.
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  Speaker 8: Just have to do it.
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  Speaker 6: Changed her tune real fast, didn't she so? Prior to
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  Speaker 6: the interview, she's just saying look, no matter what she says,
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  Speaker 6: basically including terrorists to still having control of that land,
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  Speaker 6: that's fine, anything but a vote for Trump.
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  Speaker 8: After the interview, she's like she.
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  Speaker 6: Couldn't even answer this basic question and admits it to
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  Speaker 6: the nation live on MSNBC. It's another one of those
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  Speaker 6: examples where these networks that endlessly shill for daily tongue
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  Speaker 6: bats for the Democrats actually end up with egg all
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  Speaker 6: over their face because they realize the person that we're
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  Speaker 6: trying to champion is not popular or intelligence.
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  Speaker 3: It's an absolutely amazing confession, isn't it by a major
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  Speaker 3: American media network that we're going to interview the presidential candidate,
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  Speaker 3: we actually don't care what she says because everyone should
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  Speaker 3: vote for her regardless. I mean, which makes a question,
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  Speaker 3: why would you watch MSNBC's interview with anybody because it's
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  Speaker 3: a predetermined outcome.
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  Speaker 4: But also, I mean, how many swinging voters or undecided
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: voters are actually watching MSNBC, Like, I don't understand how
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: krmala Harry. I mean, I think she goes there, she
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: does the softball interview, and then that gets cut up
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: and sent out to all the other media, and that's
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: how you hopefully reach.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Them through secondary sources.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: I still, again, given that it seems to have blown
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: up in this case, I still don't understand the strategy.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously she can't she can't do any media.
• 17:08
  Speaker 8: The answer basic incredibly friendly.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: Like you can't do anyone more full on than Oprah,
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: And even Oprah is calling her.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Out for not answering the questions.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: And then you've got you've got Stephanie Rule calling her out,
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: and I wonder if sort of in both like it's
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: almost like they're trying to sort of coach her. In
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: real life, it's like they're trying.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: The other thing is their own credibility as interviewers, whether
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Oprah or Stephanie's, is called into question because people watch the.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Interview and think, why didn't you ask a follow up question?
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Why do you want to push harder?
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: I reckon, but now we know it was bias in
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: the first place. But then they get defensive over that bias.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: But I also think that that is why this particular
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: host felt that it didn't matter if Karla didn't answer
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: someone else's question, but when it was her question she
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: wasn't answering, she had to call it out as a
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: fearless and fearless and impartial journal.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: When she calls it out after the event, around.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: The interview, that's right, because when you can't not acknowledge
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: it to look really stupid here and I point out
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: that she is in fact, so when it's so again,
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: these people are so so selfless that they will go
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: to the wall to defend America from Donald Trump and
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: make sure he never gets in and pump up the
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: tires of his opponent. But when it comes to their
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: own ego or their own professional reputation, suddenly they feel
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: they have to actually say call her out all of
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: a sudden. So we know now the threshold for calling
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: out Carmla Harrison An seeing the question is purely the
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: ego of the Democrat adjacent journalist who's asking her.
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: May there be a lot more of it because, like
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: you say, no swing voters are watching MSNBC, but hopefully
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: a few Kamala voters are watching and going had a minute.
• 18:44
  Speaker 8: I do not want this woman to be commander in chief.
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: Staying in the US now where New York Mayor Eric
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: Adams has been indicted by the FEDS, this is absolutely
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: unprecedented for a New Your mayor. This indictment is sealed,
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: so we actually don't know the chargers, and we do
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: know that during his tenure, most recently, the Adams administration
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: has been reeling from a series of high level resignations
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: amid at least four federal probes, and there's a lot
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: of speculation about what that entails. Adams has now taken
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: to social media after sending a video of himself addressing
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: these charges, which are yet unknown to the New York
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: Daily News court reporter who has made this available for us.
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: He is making it about his strong stance on immigration.
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: He has for over a year now been calling out
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: the state of New York, essentially saying the city is lost.
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: Here he is speaking over a year ago talking about
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: what are toll the influx of illegal immigrants into the
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: Big Apple was having on the city.
• 20:01
  Speaker 12: We getting ten thousand migrants a month. One time, we
• 20:08
  Speaker 12: were just getting Venezuela. Now we're get in Ecuador. Now
• 20:12
  Speaker 12: we get Russia speaking coming through Mexico. Now we're getting
• 20:16
  Speaker 12: Western Africa. Now we're getting people from all over the
• 20:19
  Speaker 12: globe have made their minds up that they're going to
• 20:22
  Speaker 12: come through the southern part of the border.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: And come into New York City.
• 20:27
  Speaker 12: Every community in this city is going to be impacted.
• 20:30
  Speaker 12: We had a twelve billion dollar deficit that we're going
• 20:34
  Speaker 12: to have to cut. Every service in this city is
• 20:39
  Speaker 12: going to be impacted, all of us. I said it
• 20:44
  Speaker 12: last year when we had fifteen thousand. I'm telling you
• 20:47
  Speaker 12: now with one hundred and ten thousand the city, we
• 20:51
  Speaker 12: knew we're about to lose.
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: Good luck fighting this corrupt justice system, Boddy. Remember these
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: are the same New York Feds that have relentlessly pursued
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: Donald Trump and will stop at nothing to bring him down.
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: And now, while the.
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: Mayor is a Democrat, it appears because he's gone against
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: their policy of essentially open borders and facilitating this massive
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: influx of illegal immigrants, he's now on the nose. If
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: you're not in the club, you're out, buddy. And essentially
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: Eric Adams is cooked here. Because his net worth is
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: around sixteen million dollars, it would be so easy for
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: this indictment to completely bankrupt him.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: This is a classic case of you've bitten the hand
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: that was feeding you. Right, he's left, but not quite
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: left enough to be left alone. And the other interesting
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: thing about this is he's turning himself in next week
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: to the FEDS. Can you imagine if he was a Republican,
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: he wouldn't get to turn himself in.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: There would have been a dawn raid by the FBI.
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: And everybody else kicked down.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Now, I think Trump was able to rock up and
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: turn himself in. That's why he got his famous mode
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: shot the face that launched a thousand votes. It is
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: just possible though that maybe this guy did do something wrong.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Is that we don't know, and I think he's accused
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: of getting campaign finance undeclared.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Or he was receiving money illegally from the Turkish government
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: in return.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Who are some pretty bad dudes, like the Turkish Duan
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: is not, you know, the nicest guy in the world.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: He's got some pretty freaky policies, pretty fundamentalists. So you know,
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: this guy could be in the pocket of some pretty
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: nasty the indeed dictators.
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: And those probes regarding potentially donations for his mayoral campaign
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: back in twenty twenty one, getting potentially these funds from
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: Turkey that began last November. So again, we don't know
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: if this indictment is related to that pro whether it's
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: something different entirely, but Adams is making this about the
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: fact that he's been a champion for the people. He
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: has been standing up for New York, and that's why
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: the Feds are after him, and he's going to fight
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: it with every fiber of his being.
• 23:11
  Speaker 13: My fellow New Yorkers, it is now my belief that
• 23:16
  Speaker 13: the federal government intends to charge me with crimes.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: If so, these charges would.
• 23:23
  Speaker 13: Be entirely false, based on lies, but they would not
• 23:29
  Speaker 13: be surprising. I always knew that if I stood my
• 23:33
  Speaker 13: ground for all of you, that I would be a target,
• 23:37
  Speaker 13: and a target I became. For months, leaks and rumors
• 23:42
  Speaker 13: have been aimed at me in an attempt to undermine
• 23:45
  Speaker 13: my credibility. I would fight these injustices with every ounce
• 23:49
  Speaker 13: of my strength.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: And my spirit is so off about that.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Crimes, it's like it's not even you know, like surely
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: you would get out on the front foot and you
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: would actually say, this is what they're coming at me for.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: It's all rubbish, it's all lies.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: That the real indictment here, though, is not on Eric Adams.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: It's on America itself.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: That we're now in a situation where when charges are
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: laid and they're political in nature, or seem to be,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: or at least that's the assumption.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: We all go straight to that point.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: And the Biden administration has created that situation where now
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: everyone's a cynic, no one takes anything at face value,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: and no one knows who to believe, which is a
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: hell of a way to run a country that's supposed
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: to be the leader of the free world.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's hard to feel sorry for Eric Adams
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: here because he was very quiet and very complicit when
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: these guys were going after Trumps. Suddenly, law Fair isn't
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: so much of a right wing conspiracy.
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: Theory, is it?
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: Because this is a democra essentially being pursued by his
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: own So is it a case of them wanting him
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: out of the way or is it a case of,
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: like you say, Joe, these these allegations of him receiving
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: money from Turkey and now having links not just from Turkey,
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: but other shall we say, unsavory countries not want to
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: be associated with the probe.
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: It seems to be growing day by day.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: And I would just know the previous grab we saw
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: where he listed all the people who were coming into
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: New York via the southern borders. He complained about the Venezuelans.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: He complained about the Ecuadorians, he complained about the Russians,
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: the Western Africans, about the Turks.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: The other thing, Eric Adams will be very suspicious. Eric
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Adams is not afraid to play the race card either,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: So if this persecution over his views on immigration doesn't work,
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: you can bet he'll say it's because I will tell
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: African American staying overseas. We talked about Kirs Starmer, the
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Prime Minister of the UK, who's having a pretty bad week,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: to be honest. Speaking at the Labor Conference the other night,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: he promised English people that he was about to take
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: control of their lives, as if that's something they really
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: were excited to hear. He also promised that he would
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: not shy away from being unpopular, and on that score
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: he's probably doing a pretty good job. But he's gotten
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: even more unpopular today after it was revealed that a
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: video he made during the pandemic urging people to stay
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: at home for your own good, for your own safety,
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: you just need to stay at home and indoors. He
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: was filming that not from his own place, but from
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: a penthouse worth eighteen million pounds owned by one of
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Labour's donors.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Now he's done.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: What every great politician would do. He's blamed his kid.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: He said, Look, it wasn't my fault. I had to
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: stay in this eighteen million dollar penthouse because my son
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: was doing his school exams and if we're in our house,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: there's me here out the front, in the middle of
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: the pandemic, and he would have been distracted. And I
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: promised my son, I will help you to focus on
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: your exams. And that's why, while you were all in
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: your homes, I had to be housed in an eighteen
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: million pound tent house.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Joe, is anyone buying this excuse? And what about his son?
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: I like kiss arm been very good for the Labor Party,
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: but it does appear to he does appear to have
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: thrown his son.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Under a bright red double decker us.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: It's just like.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: It's very frustrating.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, firstly, yes, there may well have been you know,
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: it may well have been a case for his son
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: going somewhere else and being able to study for his
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: GCSS like our HSC in Peace doesn't have to. That
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: doesn't explain why it's an eighteen million pound penthouse. Though
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: there are plenty of others.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Your exams are very important.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: Exams are very important, but they're not you know, forty
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: million Australian important, you know. Again, So it's kind of
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: it's that sort of false equivalency that politicians off and
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: do say, you know, why did you you know, why
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: did you build a house full of you know, out
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: of solid gold?
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: So well, everyone needs somewhere to live.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but that does it didn't have to be that house,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: you know, I didn't.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Have it out.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Incidentally, I think President heard one of Turkey has a
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: gold toilet in the toilet in the presidential Palace. Everyone's
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: going to go to the bus and everyone's got to
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: go to the toilet, right, We're all human, and so
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: it's just it's just such a terrible look. I don't
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: want labor MPs going around wearing hair shirts or saying
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: that rich people are terrible. But there's a difference between
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: that and actually living high on the hog and.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: The other problem.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's just said he's going to cut money
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: was being provided to elderly Brits so they could afford heating.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: He's not going to do that.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: He's making changes to private schooling, which will affect military
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: families get discounted. Meanwhile, he's this beautiful penthouse, so.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: You forget he's selflessness. He is selflessly staying at that penthouse,
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: had no expense to give them children higher because it's
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: been given to him for free by a millionaire labor
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: law and he was.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Doing it for kids, and he was.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Doing it for the kids he's helping.
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: It also doesn't help that this is off the back
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: of revelations that he's received over sixteen thousand pounds worth
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: of other freebies in terms of work clothing, some spectacles,
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: a private dresser for his wife. So naturally there's a
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: few Brits feeling like, mate, you're really heavy on the
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: government when you're in opposition for them, living high on
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: the hog and enjoying the benefits of being in power,
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: and now you're turning out to be one of the
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: worst of the lock.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: Can I just quickly say, on the subject of the
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: sixteen thousand pounds for work clothing and glasses should have
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: gone to Specsavers.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I just had to add is sponsored by Specsavers,
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: Ladies and gentlemen to Brisbane now, where you guys must
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: be shocked to find out that a simple trip into
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: your CBD will capture your facial data and details.
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: More than four hundred times. Get this.
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: While Brisbane City Council operates three thousand, seven hundred and
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: fifty surveillance cameras, with hundreds more on all forms of
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: public transport. They say no, no, we don't use facial recognition.
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: But this is doing the dodgy on you guys, because
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: these cameras work alongside the Police Department's q face, which
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: compares live footage against a database of millions of images.
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: So they're not using facial recognition, but somebody else using
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: their over three thousand, seven hundred and fifty cameras certainly is.
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: Griffith University Senior lecturer David Tuffy said most people do
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: not realize how prevalent it is within Brisbane City Council
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: operating all those cameras. It allows for the quick identification
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: of individuals, including those with outstanding arrest warrants. Very interesting.
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: This reminds me of the time in twenty twenty two
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: where Bunnings, The Good Guys and Kmart were busted for
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: using facial recognition. Nobody out of the millions of people
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: who would frequent those stores.
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: Years and years out.
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: Now nobody's permission is asked, why do you need facial recognition?
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: Aren't security cameras enough for the purposes that all three
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: stores said, Oh, this is why we use it for,
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: you know, just for security purposes, just to make sure
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: people aren't stealing our product.
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what your.
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: Garden variety surveillance cameras are for, not facial recognition.
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: I swear this is so dodgy.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I think the.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: Bunnings and Kmart and good guys case, I think they
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: were saying that they would those problem casts shoplifters who
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: had come into the shop before, would be able to
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: be recognized.
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: Everybody else's rights before.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: But I think people would indeed be amazed by how much.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, I remember when the CCTV debate around Sydney
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: came out and now all these cct but this is
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: before facial recognition was even possible. This was decades ago that,
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: you know, and people were outraged about this, and then
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: everyone just went and everyone just got on with their lives,
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: didn't notice it, didn't care. And I feel like it
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: will be one of those things which will either be
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: just completely benign and no one will know and no
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: one will care or something really weird like kind of
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: you know, minority report style will happen and someone and
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: it could almost be cut us right, because the other
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: thing is, if you're going to have that much surveillance,
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: you kind of almost might as well, Like it's weird
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: to sort of say, oh, we're going to have all
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: this surveillance that's watching you and draw the lines of
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: facial recognition. Oh we've got the footage of the guy
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: holding up the bank.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Oh right, who is it? We don't know.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: You know how many CCTV cameras it will take to
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: finally make Brisbane safe, don't you Just a couple of
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: thousand more? And that's the argument, this is going to
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: make the place safe. Well, how's that going, Queensland? Not
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: that well, although I do think Liz, next time you're
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: in Brisbane. And I know during COVID you were a
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: big proponent of not having to wear a mask, but
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: I could see you walking through the Brisbane CBD all
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: masked up, not.
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: Because of COVID, perfect dad.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Just avoiding the facial recognition.
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: But this is always the trade off that government gives you,
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: right your privacy for the safety that we will provide
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: you get stuffed.
• 33:37
  Speaker 8: I'm not a child.
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: You want to keep me safe online, you want to
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: keep me safe on public transport, that's fine, use your CCTV.
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: You're not going to find me doing anything illegal, and
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: you will find the bad is doing something illegal, and
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: they're usually in your system.
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: Anyway.
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: That system has worked for years. So with regard to
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: what you were saying there, Joe about you know, back
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: in the day, CTV was considered also controversial, and now
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: everyone's become okay with it, I think we do need
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: to revisit those conversations as the technology gets more and
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: more sophisticated.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Night where everyone's going.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: To be microchip for their own safety, or everyone's going,
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: you know, like they're having China, everyone will have a
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: social credit that you can build up.
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: I mean, naive if we don't think there's already some
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: form of that already taking place. Why do you need
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: to gather this much data on us? If you're not
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: putting together some sort of portfolio to tell the state? Absolutely,
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: I mean they've already got everything from a fingerprint to
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: a europe.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Remember we talked about in the UK eight train stations
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: were using facial recognition. It was being passed on to
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: a psychologist to assess people's moods.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, and you can just imagine.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: The next step is where police suspects someone of coming
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: a crime and they look for the mood technology to
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: work out while he was angry at the time that
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: we used in evidence as a court of law. You
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: can see where this keeps going in your right. At
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: some point you've got to draw a line. And that's
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: as far as it goes.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: Speaking have that mood technology as Matt mood detective technology
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: as well. It's called the Daily Telegraph, and it's always angry.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Speaking of amazing technology, Mark Zuckerberg unveiled this week the
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: technology that should replace your iPhone. Everything instead will be
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: visible through a pair of high tech glasses.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Here he is showing them off, and.
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  Speaker 11: If I do say so, the most advanced glasses the
• 35:30
  Speaker 11: world has ever seen, less than one hundred grams. They
• 35:34
  Speaker 11: need wide field of view, holographic displays sharp enough to
• 35:40
  Speaker 11: pick up details where this isn't passed through. This is
• 35:46
  Speaker 11: the physical world with holograms overlaid on it.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: So you wear these glasses and your text messages will
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: literally come up in your line of sight while you're
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: still able to see the physical world as well, or
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: you can do a video call with somebody while walking
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: through a shopping center, seeing digital and physical world simultaneously.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: You could watch YouTube videos while you're doing it. And
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: the only reason it's not being released to the public
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: is because at this stage, and you saw the glasses there,
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: they're not exactly cool glasses from specsators.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Are they They're kind of bulky and not very stylish.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: But as soon as they get them smaller and more stylish,
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: they'll cost about the same as a high end laptop computer.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: And I reckon, whatever you think of the technology people
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: swap immediately from a handheld phone, just seeing things in
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: front of you, you don't get motion sickness, like.
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: We're not attached to our devices enough.
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: You've got your phone right there, You've got your Apple.
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: Watches that people can never get off.
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: You're already immediately notified of a notification. And also, how
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: are these not going to pose a risk and a
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: danger if you're walking along in a park, driving, paying
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: attention to the latest text that you've got, if you're driving,
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: I mean, I don't see how they going to meet
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: these of health and safety friendly I reckon.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: I reckon this is going to be an absolute disaster.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: I reckon that there is that there's this, and a
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: lot of people talking about it these days. But there
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: has been up until now an assumption that just because
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: we can do something that we should, or rather almost
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: that the technology is just going to happen. It's going
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: to be inevitable and we just have to find a
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: way to go with the fly. And we're seeing a
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: huge amount of pushback, for example, and social media patforms
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: say no, actually, we're just going to say screw you.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: We're going to turn it off. A lot of people
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: doing that voluntarily. We're going to ban it for kids.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: What everythink about that? And I think with these ones,
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: I mean you mentioned that Apple watches. Those watches have
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: been around. All those watches have been around for years
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: and years and years and years more.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Than a decade. Now, the takeup isn't huge.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: I mean every single person who's got a mobile phone,
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: but I don't have.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: The problems style Apple watch just don't look good.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: No, that's right.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: But I think I think people, I think I think
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: people want a level of separation, even if we're all
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: addicted to our devices. I think people balk at the
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: idea of actually being too attached to them, even just
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: physically attached to them. The watchers haven't taken off. Also,
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: remember you could get that microchip in you. There's only
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: that one weird guy.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see what happens with it. We're gonna
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: go to a break.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow,
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: including Jim Charmers arriving in China as the Chinese test
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: fire ballistic missiles.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: That's coming up in a moment.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Welcome back. Well, let's take a look at what's making
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: news tomorrow. We'll start with the Australian, where Liz Jim
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Charmers has arrived in China.
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: Yes, and there he is. We've even got some footage
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: of him arriving just for you.
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: The splash reads a Charmers offensive to embrace the Dragon.
• 38:43
  Speaker 8: Well, a lot of thought went into that.
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: Jim Chalmers has warned that further slowing in China's economic
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: growth would wreak havoc on Australia, with a drop of
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: one percentage point in Chinese GDP growth projected to inflict
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: about six billion dollars in lost A mess dick output
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: Wow well, I don't suppose that Charmers visits going to
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: be any help because he can't do much much good.
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: For ours.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Charms the taking ch Surely.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: In China, he's probably found an alibi for the poorly
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: performing Australian economy, the slow down in China.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: It's affecting us. The narrative is already there.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: It's on the front page of The Australian tomorrow for
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: him good in comparison.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: You know, at some point doesn't there have to be
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: a moratorium though, of all headline writers doing Charmers offensive
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: Like it's like it's like, I mean, I'm not having
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: to go with the eyes. I love them and as
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: soon as I get my pH D, I'm going to
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: go and work there.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Charming anyway, thank you very much.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: The producer you said next right, son of my old
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: hometown in Melbourne where I was just last weekend, and
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: my god, is like a ghost town.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: It is just terrible graffiti everywhere.
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I went to dan in my old home of
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: town and the shopping center of our Saturday afternoon. All
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: the shops except the discount ones were basically empty.
• 40:09
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: And then went up the road to south the Ara
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: very much a tale of two cities. And even in
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: Ritzy Turaq Road, the restaurants streets almost all bit empty.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: So you know, once the two Iraq tractors are starting
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: to cop it in the old windpipe that anyway, the
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: way says in case you're watching, but check out this.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: This is going to get people all hot and bothered.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Brassy Dan tribute as tunnel blows out, Daniel Andrews will
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: be immortalized in bronze. With the Allen government confirming a
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: statue is in the work works for the divisive ex
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: premier and indeed, as most people consider that the reason
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: why Melbourne and Victoria more generally is in such a
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: malays because it was the most lockdown city in the
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: world during COVID and the state current has a debt
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: of I think one hundred and ninety billion dollars. It's
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: about fifty billion more than he did a statue. But
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: all premiers, and I think it was I think it
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: was actually Dan's decision that all premiers who serve win
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: three elections.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I think it was Jeff Kennett that or was Jeff
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Kell think it was Jeff Kennett.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Jeff missed out on one.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: But he posed a certain period of time as premier,
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: you get a statue. This is too soon that Victoria
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: needs to wait until the memory of Dan Andrews.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Has faded a little bit. This is just salt in
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: the wound, isn't it. This is just Rumigan.
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: Going to be the most graffiti statue of all time.
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: There's going to be the unveiling and from that day
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: onward it's going to have a different face. That'll be
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: clown faces painted on it. There will be ridiculous hat.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: The only person happy about the Dan Andrews statue is
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Captain Cook because you would finally get a break.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Tasmania.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: The Mercury Paper is talking about poker machines. It's on
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: the cards, reads the headline, pokey reform is coming to
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: the Apple ale or. The Tasmanian government remains committed to
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: retrofitting the state's twenty two hundred poker machines with pre
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: commitment card technology, despite ongoing resistance from the hospitality industry.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: A parliamentary committee has heard so this is a I mean,
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: there's different views on what we should do about problem gambling.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Poker machines are a particular issue. I'm not a gambler,
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: so I couldn't care either way. But I don't see
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: what the problem is with prepaid cards. Yeah, to protect
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: people from themselves.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: So if you're a gambler, if you're a problem gamber,
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: say right, I'm not going I don't want to spend
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: more than fifty bucks on the pokes tonight or whatever.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: And you have your card and that's programmed in. And
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: even when you get that Russia blood to your head
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: and you've lost forty nine to ninety nine, you think, oh.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: I can get it all back.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: It stops you from doing that and you have to
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: go outside and go home, maybe have a little sleep,
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: you know, take the misses out for a parmi and
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: think twice about it. So I think it's good, sensible, moderate.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: And because you had the prepaid card, you can afford
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: the party exactly there are and your wife stays with you.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: Oh well, look at clubs around the country. Their prices
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: are so affordably. If could afford the parmy even without.
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: The pre paid wins around to the front page of
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: the Courier. Mound Now Brisbane coach pays ultimate.
• 43:21
  Speaker 8: Price after season's failure. Bronc shock.
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: Is it really after such a failure, Is it really
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: such a shock?
• 43:28
  Speaker 8: Kevy gone?
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: Kevin Walters is set to leave the Brisbane Broncos coaching job.
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: It can be revealed Walters has severed ties with the
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: Broncos immediately following a club wide review in the wake
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: of Brisbane's shock free fall to finish twelfth this season.
• 43:45
  Speaker 8: Where have they normally finished?
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Well, this is the point. Last year they made the
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Grand Final. He took the team over a few years
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: ago and the team was an absolute disaster. He got
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: them to a Grand Final which they just lost, and
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: then this year because they didn't perform so well, he's
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: out the door.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: So lately.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: What the players have done not that much, evidently.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Kevin Balter's performance over the years.
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: He's asking me this because I literally said, I can't
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: intro this story. I don't know the first thing about
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: this bloke called the Broncos.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people are saying that, you know.
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: Yes, what an illustrious career he has had.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Joe, Let's go to the Gold Coast Bulletin. They're leading
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: with what the el minister billionaire wants A Scanlon step
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: in overstalled project. Billionaire developer Bob l has demanded State
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Housing Minister Megan Scanlon intervene on his four thousand home
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: Cumraate development. Now, this development has been approved by the council,
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: it's been approved by the state government, but it's stalled
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: awaiting federal environmental approvals. I thought, we're in the middle
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: of a housing crisis, and the federal government keeps saying
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: we're doing everything to address this and fix this, and
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: they rattle off all the money they've committed on all
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: the programs that they have entitled, and yet here we've
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: got a four thousand home development. It's all been approved,
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: but the federal governments still haven't signed off on it environmental.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: It's the exact reversal of what the normal problem is.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: So usually, you know, the federal government sets a housing
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: target and the states say, right, we're going to implement
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: this housing target and put them there, and we say,
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: there's absolutely no way, not in my backyard, we're not
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: going to do it. And now it's the council saying yes,
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: and the state government's saying yes, and then the Fed's going, actually,
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: there might be a you know, green and golden bell
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: frog there somewhere, which is just.
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: Ridiculous because they are completely failing with regard to their
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: own target that supposedly kicked off in July.
• 45:42
  Speaker 8: None of us can tell you'd think.
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: They'd be gagging at this opportunity. Just sign off on it.
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: You've got a developer, he's raring to go.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, we're going to go to a break when we
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: come back. Coca Cola.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: Ban the names Jesus and Trump from personalized cans, will show.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: You in just a moment, welcome back. Now.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: This is an incredible story. Coca Cola is have got
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: these personalized cans, but they're not for everybody.
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: Apparently, no video has recently gone viral pointing out the
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: fact that these guys won't allow the word Trump or
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: Jesus to be put on their personalized cans. Everyone's wondering
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: what the heck Coca Cola.
• 46:22
  Speaker 8: Check out this.
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: Video illustrating someone trying to use Jesus or Trump, but
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: he can use every other person under the sun.
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: You can put Allah loves you, or you be even
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: let me sing yourself, me lets you track it out,
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: Buddha loves you.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: But that even take in the word Jesus. We cannot
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: allow this text when the camp.
• 47:12
  Speaker 8: Are you surprised? Are you really surprised?
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: Well, you won't be surprised any longer when I tell
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: you that the three biggest stakeholders in Coca Cola are
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: Black Rock, Vanguard, and State Street. These guys take every
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: opportunity to push their agenda. They do nothing to hide it.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be them like that?
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: There would be a program that would be in there
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: say any words that could potentially like that would actively
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: sort of flag words that were no go zones to
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: cause controversy.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: And obviously forgot.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: To put in Allah and Buddha and everything, but decided
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: that was, oh yeah, just it could be the.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Other way around.
• 47:48
  Speaker 8: I'm sure.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Inuating so no, I reckon that they would have.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: There would have been someone who said, it's like in
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: the iPhone, you know, when you do predictive text and
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: it won't let you swear, which is very unfair to ducks,
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: by the what.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: But they forgot to put in Trump as well, that's.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: Right, would have they would have put in those words
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: We're going to make sure for our brand management, we're
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: not going to allow any of these controversial words. And
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: they would have put in Trump. They would have put
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: in Jesus. They would have put in all those ones
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: on the band, but other people were forgot to put it.
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: We're illustrating. It allows you to put Satan, it allows
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: you to demons names. Is perfectly executive.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: We're saying, oh, we can't have anything religious.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Every other religious figure there you go go figure.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: All right, well that's it from us, but stick around.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: Coming up in just a moment is the reader pend