Latest / What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie? / #321: Truth or Dare (2018)
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- 0:06Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
- 0:11Try me, I dare you. Welcome to What's your least
- 0:15favorite scary movie in the park, guys, where we talk about
- 0:18the good, about the ugly and the absurd, and all of our favorite.
- 0:21And least favorite? Scary Movie.
- 0:23Because we believe every horror movie rightfully has his fan
- 0:25base. Even if we don't always get it.
- 0:27My name is Travis My. Name is Jesse and welcome.
- 0:29This is our Patreon voted movie of the month.
- 0:33We are talking what we jokingly referred to as the bad truth or
- 0:38dare. Yeah, it's the 2018 Blumhouse 1,
- 0:42and we say that in comparison to the 2017 sci-fi one.
- 0:46Yeah, you know, it has occurred to me that this is the third
- 0:50movie titled Truth or Dare that we've covered on the show.
- 0:53Yes, because for the first time since covering it early early,
- 0:57early on in the show, we watched Truth or Die last weekend.
- 1:01Was it called truth or die? I thought it was truth or dare.
- 1:04It's truth or dare in the UKI think and truth or die here in
- 1:09the United States. OK, it was.
- 1:10Unless I've got it flipped backwards.
- 1:12It was settled truth or dare when we watched it last week.
- 1:14Yes, except for the poster, the icon, thumbnail, whatever.
- 1:18It's the truth or die. Oh, OK.
- 1:20Yeah. OK.
- 1:20So I remember us briefly talking about that.
- 1:24Either way. Either way, I got a couple of
- 1:26announcements, Travis and Dupole.
- 1:29I didn't. We are doing to be or not to be
- 1:32this weekend. We are to be on the lookout for
- 1:34that. If you are a budget here, Bubby,
- 1:36also be looking out for the February vote.
- 1:40And at some point before the end of the month, of course, we'll
- 1:43be putting up our bonus episode. We don't know exactly when or
- 1:47what we're doing yet, but that'll be there.
- 1:49Yeah, yeah, we're, we're still like 2 weeks from the end of the
- 1:52month in real life right now, so.
- 1:54There's plenty of time. We'll have it doing a little.
- 1:56Housekeeping right here. Yeah, OK, with all that said, I
- 2:01think we're ready to talk about the movie.
- 2:02Let's do it. OK, so truth or dare it released
- 2:06April 13th, 2018. We watch it on Blu-ray 'cause we
- 2:10own it. But you can rent it on YouTube,
- 2:13Google TV, Fandango, at home or Prime.
- 2:17The story was by Michael Rays and the screenplay was by
- 2:21Michael Rays, Gillian Jacobs, Chris Roach and Jeff Wadlow.
- 2:24Jeff Wadlow also directed the movie.
- 2:27Music by Matthew Morgeson. Special effects makeup by Adrian
- 2:31Moreau. Starring Lucy Hale as Olivia
- 2:34Baron, Tyler Posey as Lucas Moreno.
- 2:37Violet Bean as Marky Cameron, Hayden Zito as Brad Chang.
- 2:42Sofia Ali as Penelope Amari. I'm sorry.
- 2:46As don't you mean Penelope? Yes, absolutely, Penelope.
- 2:50I wanted to say it correctly one time.
- 2:53Yeah, it's gonna be Penelope. It's gonna be.
- 2:55Penelope the rest of the time Nolan, Gerard Funk as Tyson,
- 2:59Korean Landon like Boren as Carter AKA Sam Mian and Sam
- 3:05Lerner as Ronald Ronnie Witkowski.
- 3:08Travis, It's time for our favorite game on the show.
- 3:11Budget or bug? Ted.
- 3:14Well, this is Blumhouse. This movie doesn't necessarily
- 3:17strike me as expensive. I'm going to say it's a bug,
- 3:20Ted. That's a fair assumption to
- 3:21make. In fact, it is a 3.5 million
- 3:24budget. That's still pretty decent.
- 3:26Yeah, but that very much falls into the bug Ted category or
- 3:29arbitrary line in the sand. I'd say that's good for a
- 3:31Blumhouse. Yeah, yeah, that's fair.
- 3:34Opening Box office 41.4 million. Worldwide Gross 95.3 million.
- 3:40IMDb score 5.3 out of 10. Wow.
- 3:42OK, so it's pretty much right down the middle in all things.
- 3:45So, but is it, is it OK the box office it sounds?
- 3:47Like, yeah, you know, in the grand Blum house tradition.
- 3:50I mean, it made money. Like if it's a Blum House movie,
- 3:53it makes money by default. Yeah, it started in the green.
- 3:57OK, in 2018, I found kind of a common theme.
- 4:01The more the merrier. The more the merrier where
- 4:03you're doing ensemble horror movies.
- 4:05Oh, OK, you got a group of people together, Things happen.
- 4:08Knock them off 1 by 1 all. Right, I'm done with that.
- 4:10So the first one is Hellfest. Oh yeah, now it kind of feels
- 4:13like this too. It's like another teenage movie.
- 4:15And I think it was also done very similarly, like where they
- 4:18had the cast bonding as part of the movie production, which I'll
- 4:22talk about in a moment. OK.
- 4:24Hellfest was released September 28th, 2018.
- 4:27It had a 5.5 million budget, 18.1 million gross, and an IMDb
- 4:32score of 5.5 out of 10. Yeah, that's a pretty decent
- 4:35movie. Yeah, Unfriended, Dark Web,
- 4:38second movie. Yeah, I can't remember.
- 4:40Have we talked about that one on the show or just the first one?
- 4:43I'll. Have to consult.
- 4:47Our. I think we've done.
- 4:48I think we've done both. Yeah, we did both.
- 4:50We did both. Did we?
- 4:51I remember. Yep.
- 4:52It's just we're at over 300 episodes at this point, it's
- 4:57going to be hard to remember and especially guesting on other
- 5:01shows and. Yeah, because I remember the
- 5:02first one we had girls like us on the episode, and then the
- 5:05second one it was just you and me.
- 5:06Yes, OK. Anyway, I'm Brenda Dark Web
- 5:09released July 20th, 2018. Budget of 1,000,000 Worldwide
- 5:14gross of 16,000,000. IMDb score 6.0 out of 10.
- 5:17I'm sad that they stopped making those movies.
- 5:19I I would absolutely watch any more that they put out.
- 5:22I mean, it's just one of those movies that you can make so many
- 5:26of, yes. And like, you know, you don't
- 5:27have to have like any continuity.
- 5:31OK, final movie. We have watched this one.
- 5:33We've not talked about it on the podcast.
- 5:35OK, Headcount. Oh, headcount.
- 5:39OK, that's the creepypasta. Yeah, based off of the
- 5:42creepypasta where like a random person keeps joining their group
- 5:45but nobody can remember how many people they were supposed to
- 5:47have. Yeah, that's right.
- 5:48Yeah. Yeah, that's a pretty solid
- 5:49idea. Yeah.
- 5:51And I, it was weird. It was.
- 5:53Yeah. It went places I didn't expect
- 5:55it to go. It's a movie that I never and
- 5:57like. I wanna watch that again, but
- 5:59I'm not mad that I did. Yeah.
- 6:03It actually premiered at the Los Angeles Film Festival on
- 6:06September 24th, 2018. I don't have any type of
- 6:11financial information on it, but it does have a 5.4 out of 10 on
- 6:15IMDb. That's solid.
- 6:17I've got, I got a lot of, I got a lot of tag lines, tag lines.
- 6:23Thank you. You got a lot of, a lot of.
- 6:26I do OK. Some of these are just stupid.
- 6:31Anyone said I don't consider real tag lines OK, The producer
- 6:35of Happy Death Day and Get Out dares you to play.
- 6:36Hey you. Know it's not too bad actually.
- 6:41The truth will set them free. No.
- 6:44They are dying to play. They're playing to die.
- 6:48Oh nice. The game plays you.
- 6:53Yeah. That's a little iffy for me
- 6:56because the better version of this movie if you don't do the
- 6:59dare, the dare does you. In this one, if you don't do the
- 7:02dare, you just die. That's true.
- 7:04So yeah. The next tagline is just a
- 7:07question mark. Just a question, just, I mean
- 7:11that is on the poster. I don't think that's considered
- 7:14a tagline. I think that's just part of the
- 7:16design of the. It is under tagline.
- 7:20No, I refuse. I refuse that. 1 I believe that
- 7:23you pronounce it huh. Live or die, make your choice.
- 7:30That's. What I mean automatically?
- 7:34Kill or be killed at the end. Yeah, pretty much, yeah.
- 7:41Show or be shown. What, what, what?
- 7:49Show or be shown. I don't understand what's so
- 7:51confusing about. That I don't.
- 7:57This Friday the 13th, life and death are the choices to be
- 7:59made. OK.
- 8:03I think each castle ever had to come up with one tagline.
- 8:06That's my theory right now. I think somebody, yeah, I don't
- 8:09know what. The I've got 2 pages of
- 8:11screenshots. Oh my God, do you really?
- 8:13The terror is real. Tell the truth or die.
- 8:20Yeah, that's how the game goes. Do the dare die.
- 8:22That's also how the game goes. Refuse to play and die.
- 8:27That's a summary of how the game goes.
- 8:29I want, I want one of these to be Chadwell.
- 8:32Chad Radwell. It's not called truth or dare.
- 8:35Lie. It's called truth or dare.
- 8:37Yeah. Want to play?
- 8:42Definitely they stole. Some of these from Sol.
- 8:43They definitely did. Time to play.
- 8:46OK, did they just like run this like through a fucking thesaurus
- 8:50and try to like think of different ways to rephrase every
- 8:52single poster? They have been one of the
- 8:54earlier ChatGPT projects. Oh God.
- 8:58First you play the game, then the game plays.
- 9:00You. Uh huh, You can't win.
- 9:03You cool? No, I guess you can't really.
- 9:06I mean no. Truth, dare and die.
- 9:11Truth dare. But it's not truth or dare or
- 9:14lie. What the fuck?
- 9:17Truth, dare and die. And there's no Oxford comma,
- 9:20which I just do not abide by. Oh, I think I thought that was
- 9:24what you were saying. Attack Glenn was like, there's
- 9:26no Oxford comma. I'm like, whoa, I'm watching
- 9:28that. Movie.
- 9:29I would not watch that movie. What a what a terrifying
- 9:33concept. Who gives a fuck about an Oxford
- 9:35comma? You can't argue a Vampire
- 9:36Weekend. We both always tell the truth.
- 9:39We would do really good at this. There's.
- 9:41The window, then the wall. The game only ends when all the
- 9:45players are dead. Is that seriously a tagline?
- 9:48Yep, that's the one we're closing out on, ending with
- 9:51Bang. This is man.
- 9:55Irresponsible. It was like a roller coaster.
- 9:57It started out like, and then I'm like, whoa.
- 10:00And then it's just like, I think we peeked like the like when
- 10:04you're about to do the drop, that's when the question mark
- 10:06showed up on the. Guidelines.
- 10:08After that, it's just like, oh, OK.
- 10:11It's like that one roller coaster at Kings Island that we
- 10:14always ride and every time we're like, Oh yeah, we don't really
- 10:16like this one. Yeah.
- 10:17With the the hanging car one. Yeah, yeah, it's the bat one.
- 10:20Yeah. Yeah.
- 10:22OK, I've got a few fun facts. OK, One is actually we talked
- 10:27about it last night because we watched the unrated director's
- 10:31cut. It is a little over 31 seconds
- 10:35of extra footage. Oh.
- 10:36Boo. Yeah, it's it's really not much
- 10:39because the theatrical release was PG13.
- 10:43Basically all of the unrated cuts are just like extra blood
- 10:47and a lot of extra drinking and a more highly lit shot of Lucy
- 10:54Hale's back when she is. Having sex with.
- 10:58Tyler Posey, yeah. No.
- 10:59So they just like adjust the brightness.
- 11:00Yeah, like they dimmed it down in the PG13 so you can't see her
- 11:03shoulder blades I. Thought she was doing a body
- 11:06double for that. You never see her face.
- 11:08She's very tiny though. Yeah, but.
- 11:10Back is no back was tiny. Yeah, I guess that's true.
- 11:13So Wadlow was actually hired to direct after he was doing some
- 11:17some meetings with Blumhouse. They were kind of like, throwing
- 11:20around the idea of the movie. And he basically pitched the
- 11:23opening scene based on the idea of the movie.
- 11:26OK. And so he was hired, and he
- 11:28brought on his friend Chris Roach to help him and the rest
- 11:31of the writing team, like, flush out the script.
- 11:35So that's all it took to get a movie.
- 11:37I guess so we. So a girl walks into a gas
- 11:39station. Why is a guy on fire?
- 11:40Because she thinks he says dare. But the guy, it was just a big
- 11:44miscommunication. Yes.
- 11:45Right. OK, let's go from there.
- 11:46Yeah. We need a meeting with
- 11:49Blumhouse. Yeah, I know, right?
- 11:50We can. Come up with all kinds of ideas.
- 11:52Yeah. Principal photography took place
- 11:55in LA from June 7th twenty 17th to July 12th, 2017.
- 12:00That spring break montage at the beginning, this is kind of what
- 12:04I was alluding to in the similar movies from 2018.
- 12:07Yeah. So they were actually, the cast
- 12:09was just sent to Mexico with cell phones to shoot on.
- 12:13So that was just actually their like, so they actually little
- 12:16work vacation in Mexico. They filmed all of that stuff
- 12:19themselves. Yeah, that.
- 12:20That looks like a lot of fun. Yeah, and it was like it was
- 12:23early on, so it was good for them to like bond and become
- 12:25friendly and get to know each other and stuff.
- 12:27That's a good way to like, develop chemistry for a cast
- 12:29there. Yes, absolutely.
- 12:31And that's what I was saying. I think they did something very
- 12:33with Hellfest where they had them just kind of like go to a
- 12:35park, hang out. They were also like the script
- 12:39was kind of loose, similar to like Paranormal Activity.
- 12:43Yeah, where do they did a lot of improv?
- 12:44Stuff, yeah. For Hellfest or this movie?
- 12:46Hellfest OK, and then the last thing I have from this because
- 12:50oh man, I'm sorry, but a lot of the information was on TikTok
- 12:53and I just was not going to watch a lot of Tik toks about
- 12:55this. So I was just reading what bits
- 12:59of interviews I could get and the only thing that really stood
- 13:02out was an interview that Tyler Posey and Lucy Hale did with
- 13:05Screen Rant. And basically they confirmed
- 13:08that the smile was done in post and it actually is a Snapchat
- 13:11filter. Yeah, it's like.
- 13:14Oh my God, I like. I know people joke around about
- 13:16looking like a Snapchat filter but it's confirmed well.
- 13:18I mean, they even say it in the movie like it will be a Snapchat
- 13:21filter. Yeah, like, I mean, I, I
- 13:22remember like that was a Snapchat filter.
- 13:25And it was part of the reason we didn't want to go see Smile.
- 13:28A little bit, yeah. It's because of this movie.
- 13:30Yeah, You know, it actually did kind of damage that a little
- 13:34bit. Yeah, I remember, man.
- 13:36Like the movie's a little bit dated because of the the whole I
- 13:40don't really. Is Snapchat even a thing
- 13:42anymore? Sorry my brain broke for a
- 13:43second. There, you sound like Porky Pig.
- 13:53The question still stands. What question Is Snapchat still
- 13:57a thing? Do people still Snapchat I?
- 13:59Think so, I didn't re download the app when I got this phone.
- 14:03I don't have it anymore either, I barely even used it whenever
- 14:06it was a thing. Yeah.
- 14:08I know like we were the target audience for and I just didn't
- 14:10even really care about it. Yeah, I just, I don't know, I
- 14:13like sending pictures to you through text message so I can go
- 14:16back and pull up the pictures. Yeah, the same.
- 14:18Yeah, I can save them like you can save them on Snapchat, but
- 14:21like the whole thing with Snapchats, you send a picture
- 14:23and it's just gone. Yeah, you know, like dumb.
- 14:27OK, that's it. We're ready to talk.
- 14:30OK, well, let's talk good, bad, ugly and absurd.
- 14:33Yep, start with the good Travis. Travis, kick it off.
- 14:36All right, This is Travis. My name is Travis.
- 14:40I'm here with the Travis and ready.
- 14:43Travis. Travis, we call this the bad
- 14:48truth or dare. It's not necessarily a bad
- 14:50movie. It's just of the truth or dare
- 14:53movies, it's the worst one that we watch.
- 14:55No, no, no, no. It's the next, the worst one.
- 14:58Yes. The worst one is the one with
- 14:59the weird incest. Yes.
- 15:01Spoiler where I'm saving you if you watch that one.
- 15:04But then again. It's on Prime and it references
- 15:07YouTube creation group called the Truth or Dare Devils.
- 15:11Yeah, watch it if you want. Just know that there is a lot of
- 15:14incest and you aren't ever. We're ready for it, and I want
- 15:18you all to be ready for. It I don't like if we did that
- 15:21movie after we just talked about Wrong Turn 6, I don't think I'd
- 15:24be able to continue on with the. Show yeah, we didn't need to
- 15:27take a month off. Yeah, yeah.
- 15:30But no, this one, it's cheesy, Yeah.
- 15:32And it's the, you know it. I wouldn't say it's the type of
- 15:36cheese that I like, I love, but it's the type of cheese that I
- 15:39can find, like, I it's entertaining still for me.
- 15:44So like, I, I have a good enough time with it, you know, like I
- 15:46you you just don't take this movie seriously and you just
- 15:50kind of like, go in and like, turn your brain off.
- 15:51You can enjoy yourself with this.
- 15:53Yeah, it's, it's fairly straightforward too, and fairly
- 15:56well paced. Like, it doesn't waste a lot of
- 15:59time. It gets right to the whole truth
- 16:02or dare stuff. Like we get a little bit of
- 16:03partying in Mexico, but it goes from there to truth or dare.
- 16:06And pretty much as soon as they get back to campus, they're
- 16:09playing the game for the rest of the movie.
- 16:11Yeah. So at least they have that going
- 16:13and there's always something coming up throughout the entire
- 16:16movie to keep you invested. So, you know, like, it's an
- 16:20entertaining watch, but like, really, that's about as much
- 16:24good as I can say about the movie.
- 16:26So, you know, that's it. OK, I yeah, obviously this falls
- 16:31into the subgenre of things I love, which is evil games
- 16:35ripping friend groups apart. Yeah, so that's always gonna be
- 16:40fun for me. Even a good sub genre.
- 16:41Yes, it's a good sub genre. And it's one of those that even
- 16:44if it's not a great film usually, it's mostly enjoyable.
- 16:48Yeah, I think this had some interesting set pieces.
- 16:53I do like that they went to the old mission and that there was a
- 16:56little bit of lore with it. Yeah, it just kind of got.
- 17:01Yeah, yeah. And I'll get to yeah.
- 17:04It's probably some of those same feelings here in a minute.
- 17:07I think the cast all did a really good job.
- 17:09Yeah, they actually did. Because there there are a few
- 17:12lines that like, I was sitting there and I was thinking, wow,
- 17:14this had to be really awkward, like on a script.
- 17:17And they're delivering it believably.
- 17:19Yeah. Yeah.
- 17:20So I, you know, I buy that. I like there's some fun little
- 17:24like foreshadowing moments that I appreciate, like when Penelope
- 17:29threatens to stab Tyson in the eye with his pen.
- 17:34Oh yeah. And when Marky tells Olivia,
- 17:37like, touch me again, I'm breaking your hand.
- 17:40Yeah. So I think that that's like,
- 17:42just fun little, like, OK, we're thinking ahead.
- 17:44We're making the things that we do matter.
- 17:46Also anytime Penelope is on screen she's drinking and part
- 17:50of her well she doesn't necessarily die because of it
- 17:53but her dare is like related to drinking.
- 17:55Yeah, they said. Marky makes a comment of like, I
- 17:59always figured if we were gonna have an intervention, it would
- 18:01be for day drinking. Penelope.
- 18:02Yeah. Which like God, I we didn't see
- 18:06this in theaters. We saw it at home.
- 18:09What was it like in theaters? Did people even care when
- 18:12Penelope died? Cuz like most, she was cut the
- 18:15most because she was drinking the most.
- 18:18How like did they actually cut her?
- 18:21They cut a lot of her drinking. Really.
- 18:23Well, I mean, that's like her character.
- 18:25Yeah. Like did they even like did they
- 18:26reshoot the dare? They no, they didn't reshoot the
- 18:29dare. They just cut it down a lot.
- 18:31Like you don't see the bottle as much really.
- 18:34You just know that she's drinking.
- 18:36Why? And they even.
- 18:37Change a lot of her shots in that opening montage.
- 18:39They like replace a lot of her drinking shots.
- 18:42Like I don't understand what the big deal with drinking is for
- 18:45PG13. Like that just is so weird to me
- 18:49that they are that strict about that.
- 18:51But the death stuff's fine. Especially because this comes
- 18:54across as kind of after school, especially like drinking bad.
- 18:59So I don't know, it's the the fucking MPAA that I could rant
- 19:05about that for a while. I'm not going to go into it, but
- 19:09yeah, OK. What is your bad?
- 19:10OK. I guess it's just, it's a fairly
- 19:14generic movie. It's got like generic characters
- 19:18and the beats to the story are all kind of like, I mean, it's
- 19:23the same stuff basically as the Truth or Dare from the year
- 19:28before and just about any other truth or Dare movie you're going
- 19:31to do. If it involves supernatural
- 19:33stuff. The one, the British one that we
- 19:36were talking about, that's an interesting one because that's
- 19:38like a person forcing them to play truth or dare.
- 19:40I like that. You know, that's different.
- 19:42But if like this is like the same thing, like if you're going
- 19:44to do truth or dare and it's going to be supernatural, it's
- 19:46always going to be some fucking demon.
- 19:47And it's the same exact story beats as the one.
- 19:49And you're always going to find somebody who magically survived
- 19:52it yours before. Yeah, and they travel and then
- 19:54they like, you know, it's the person just like kind of like
- 19:57gives them the low down on what it is like.
- 20:00It was Heather. Heather Lincoln camp and the
- 20:04sci-fi one and this one, I don't know who it is, but it was
- 20:07basically the exact same scene. And like, I don't know, it's
- 20:14just the movie basically writes itself.
- 20:16But that's the thing, I think that this person let it write
- 20:19itself without thinking outside the box and they didn't
- 20:22necessarily do anything interesting with the idea.
- 20:25Even the dares themselves aren't the truths and dares aren't
- 20:29necessarily like that's crazy. I feel like they went more for
- 20:34like drama than they did for horror with these.
- 20:37Oh, there was like definitely some like like just basically
- 20:42like some fanfic type stuff. Like oh man, I always dare to
- 20:45sleep with your boys. Exactly.
- 20:47It's like so many of the things in this movie are just things
- 20:50like that. Like who do you really love?
- 20:52And we're like, you know, go have sex with this person.
- 20:56It's just like this is a horror movie.
- 20:58Like I'm not here for the like the the steamy like love
- 21:03triangle bullshit stuff. And that's kind of what where
- 21:06they focused a lot of that stuff.
- 21:08But even when we get some of like the like Ronnie, like get
- 21:13on the pool table and whip out your Dick, that's the dare we're
- 21:16going to get for a horror movie, you know, like it's just it
- 21:21could have been so much more interesting.
- 21:22I don't think that they really put much thought into stuff like
- 21:25this. It was just like, you know, it,
- 21:28it was just a little bit disappointing in that regard.
- 21:33I like that they tried to add like some extra story beats.
- 21:37They tried to like tie several different things together.
- 21:40But I do think sometimes the pacing suffers for that, like
- 21:44with the with Sam changing his name and that is a whole
- 21:48separate plot line. And then we've got Marky's dad
- 21:50plot line and Marky and Olivia's friendship.
- 21:52And then we've got to go meet sister Reyes because she's got
- 21:58to tell her story. Like there's just and then we've
- 22:01got Brad coming out to his dad and like we've got all of these
- 22:04emotional beats that are really important to the growth of these
- 22:07characters and their college age.
- 22:09So I think they're supposed to be a coming of age ish element
- 22:12to it, but like it's just it's a lot and this is a simple
- 22:19premise. And so I think it's one of those
- 22:21that I think simplicity works best with it.
- 22:23I think this person was inspired by multiple movies like I don't.
- 22:26There's definitely and it follows.
- 22:28I was about to say that. Yeah.
- 22:30Because of the guy wearing them away.
- 22:31And then they, like, track him down to try and like, And it's
- 22:34the whole thing and like, OK, like, I just wanted to get
- 22:36these, like, all these people basically infected with it that
- 22:40way. It doesn't get me, but it'll
- 22:41make its way to you eventually if it makes it through all those
- 22:44people. I mean, it's very much exactly
- 22:46like It Follows. And then also, like, we have
- 22:48this like, philosophical element, almost like a trolley
- 22:51problem. Like, would you sacrifice one
- 22:53person to save 5? So you've got that going on.
- 22:57We've got like 500 reasons why Olivia and Marky shouldn't be
- 23:02friends and like half a reason why they should be.
- 23:05And it's that they've known each other their whole life.
- 23:09It just there, there are like Olivia is into Marky's boyfriend
- 23:14and he's kind of into both of them.
- 23:16I don't know. Maybe they should enter a sister
- 23:18wife arrangement. Who knows?
- 23:20We'll never find out now. Like I just, there's, there are
- 23:25a lot of little things going on to it.
- 23:27And I think it muddies it up a little bit.
- 23:30And it almost feels like it's a distraction from like the
- 23:34simplicity of the story where sometimes if you can just lean
- 23:37into the simplicity, you can have fun with it and turn your
- 23:40brain off. And I, I'm gonna not be able to
- 23:43not compare these two, but I think that's part of where the
- 23:462017 Truth or dare succeeds is we do have like a couple of
- 23:50those relationship issues, but they pare it down, way, way
- 23:53down. Yeah, I mean, it's not like the
- 23:56center point, Yeah, really ever. It's just kind of like a thing
- 24:00like, you know, just to flush out the characters a little bit
- 24:02more. But yeah, they focus on it so
- 24:05much in this movie. Yeah.
- 24:07Yeah. It's almost like a horror
- 24:09romance. Yeah.
- 24:10In some weird way. I don't.
- 24:11Know there's just a lot going on.
- 24:13Yeah, and it isn't all necessary.
- 24:16Like take one accessory off before you leave the house kind
- 24:20of situation, OK. Well, leading into that, Maulgli
- 24:23is going with the love triangle shit.
- 24:25It's just you don't want to see that.
- 24:27And these poor people going through all that stuff don't
- 24:30like the whole dare making like the person sleep with the other
- 24:33person and you know, stuff like that.
- 24:36Harsh. Yeah, but then again, she's been
- 24:39cheating on him so many times, you know, as like she was
- 24:41getting a taste of her own medicine.
- 24:44I'm going to say Ugly is basically like all of these
- 24:47friends and the secrets they keep from each other and also
- 24:53potentially Brad's home life. They they make it sound like his
- 24:57dad is really homophobic, but then it sounds like when he came
- 24:59out like he was supportive. I don't know.
- 25:01We didn't see enough to really know.
- 25:03Like, I don't feel like we got a good resolution to that.
- 25:05Like, and I I do think it's important more to center Brad in
- 25:08that storyline than it is his dad.
- 25:10But yeah, not like him saying he felt good about.
- 25:13It my take my take from that was he was just afraid to come out.
- 25:16But when he did come out, everything went fine.
- 25:18Like he. Literally called his dad
- 25:19homophobic at one point though. Before or after coming out?
- 25:22Before, I think he was just afraid because like, whenever he
- 25:25talked to him afterwards, like you're so my son and I love you,
- 25:27you know, like that. That sounds supportive.
- 25:30It but it could also be like, I support you even though you're
- 25:33gay and I hate that. Like we don't know the full
- 25:35context of it. I guess that's fair.
- 25:37So it's just one of those like and we hear Brad's feelings on
- 25:39it and I think those are the most important parts.
- 25:41But also it's like you're introducing this storyline and
- 25:43we are not getting any kind of like a resolution to it really.
- 25:46Yeah, it was again, I was like, get more drama.
- 25:49It's a drama into this movie. Well, and they did get the actor
- 25:53from Squid Games is his dad. Really.
- 25:58That's him? No shit.
- 25:59Not the lead. Well, not the.
- 26:01Yeah, the detective dude, Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 26:04Wow. Yeah.
- 26:06I would have never known that. Yeah, I just, I was like, he
- 26:09looks familiar. And I pulled off.
- 26:10I was like, OK, that's why he looks familiar.
- 26:12Cool. OK, absurd.
- 26:15The derp faces, the derp, that's what I always refer to them as
- 26:19because just Google search derp face and yeah, that's it.
- 26:24Like it's the dumbest fucking thing.
- 26:26I don't understand why they did that.
- 26:29They saw the results and they're like, yeah, Oh yeah, that's the
- 26:34look. And this writers room seems like
- 26:36maybe it was a very hello fellow kids kind of group.
- 26:39It felt like a yeah. Like I, I feel like this is
- 26:41somebody very out of touch trying to like connect to the
- 26:44youths and you know that I mean, be like me trying to make a
- 26:47movie towards Jen Z and Jen A right now.
- 26:50I'm not going to fucking try it because I don't understand you
- 26:53guys. I'm sorry, I don't.
- 26:54We'd just be throwing 6-7 on random lines and going, does
- 26:58this work? Just do we we 6-7?
- 27:01Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't know, man.
- 27:07Yeah, It's just like terrible, terrible decision.
- 27:10Mine is sister Ray. I don't know if she's still a
- 27:14sister, but. You know she has a sister, so
- 27:16she's still a sister in there. Do we know?
- 27:18She had a sister. Was that not her sister, that?
- 27:21That was her granddaughter. Well.
- 27:25Anyway, she's writing down this story, and she's writing with a
- 27:29fat sharpie on tiny notebook papers, so it's like 20 pages
- 27:35with five words each. Yeah, what does her do?
- 27:40I don't know, but irritates the shit out of me every time we
- 27:44watch. It it's so funny, like her
- 27:46reveal of no tongue. We're like, what do you have to
- 27:48sacrifice? And she just like, opens up her
- 27:50tongue and just like does like a silent scream.
- 27:52Well, no, she writes tongue first.
- 27:55Yeah, which I think it would have been more dramatic to just
- 27:57go. But it was so overly dramatic,
- 28:00like where she, like does that little silent scream thing.
- 28:03It's just like, I was thinking about it.
- 28:05So I would be like, you know, like I would be like, I'd point
- 28:08my tongue. Oh, no, that's right here.
- 28:10Like dung. You know, like just casual
- 28:12value. Oh yeah, Carl, my tongue.
- 28:15It's been 50 years and as Get over it.
- 28:18Oh yeah, man, I've been. I've spent most of my life
- 28:20without my tongue at this point. That's my normal at this point,
- 28:23like dung gong. I wouldn't be saying these
- 28:27things, of course, because you know, no tongue.
- 28:31I'd ride in a big ass sharpie. You would write a big ass
- 28:35sharpie, but you'd be trying to actually like write a normal
- 28:38amount of words per page, so it would all just be like one big
- 28:41blur. Jesse, you know I write tiny.
- 28:44I know my tiny writing is so fucking good.
- 28:47It's so precise. Yeah.
- 28:48But you would be doing it with the big fat Sharpie and you
- 28:51would be getting frustrated that it's bleeding together, but
- 28:54you'd just be like, Oh well, fat Sharpie, no tongue, no tongue.
- 28:59What can you do? No tongue, Fat Sharpie, that's
- 29:03my life. Oh God, what are you rating?
- 29:12This I'll give this a six. Yeah, it's a fun time.
- 29:16Like I don't I I still get enjoyment watching it even
- 29:18though it's some dumb drama horror movie.
- 29:21But you know, like the Truth or Dare game itself is a fun enough
- 29:24premise to nudge it over a 5 for me.
- 29:27I'll give it a 7. So we have a 67. 6-7, yeah.
- 29:31Starting average of 6.5. 6.5 All right, let's do this.
- 29:36So we started off with a car and driving very very quickly to the
- 29:40international border. She is very twitchy at a gas
- 29:43station counter and is kind of rude to the guy who is
- 29:46rightfully afraid of her. Yeah, she seems like she's
- 29:49tweaking on. Something.
- 29:50Yes, absolutely. Yeah, like he needs to be
- 29:53grabbing for the shotgun right now.
- 29:55Yeah, and the but the clerk instead asked search with her
- 29:58dare and she says she doesn't wanna play anymore.
- 30:00But then we see her dousing a stranger with lighter fluid and
- 30:02lighter on fire. Yeah, this scene is extended in
- 30:05the version we watched. By how much?
- 30:08By all of that where we see the person on fire running out to
- 30:11the gas pumps, very ill advised reaction to being lit on fire.
- 30:16I'm just going to add. No, if I'm on fire, if you're
- 30:19killing me, I'm taking this all out.
- 30:21I'm running towards that pump. Fuck you.
- 30:24Fuck everybody who didn't, who allowed this to happen to me.
- 30:28You guys are paying the price. That's so if you ever find me at
- 30:34a gas station, don't you fucking think about it.
- 30:38That's my I'm protecting myself from any future danger by making
- 30:42this statement. OK.
- 30:44And see, we even have a gas station kill as part of a truth
- 30:47or Dare. Yeah.
- 30:47Yeah. In the 2017 Truth or Dare.
- 30:49Yeah. All right, We see Olivia
- 30:51recording a promotional video for Habitat for Humanity is an
- 30:54alternate spring break. Except Marky is gonna guilt
- 30:59tripper as her last spring break together before the
- 31:02responsibilities of adulthood. Tears apart.
- 31:05Tears apart all of her friends have agreed to do 2 weeks of
- 31:09Habitat for Humanity over the summer so that's you know a
- 31:12bunch of extra people doing twice as long as just Olivia
- 31:16doing one week and plus she Marquis already cancelled on
- 31:21behalf of Olivia saying she had shingles I will give Marquis
- 31:24this that is kind of funny that's.
- 31:25A little bit. Shingles.
- 31:26Habitat for Humanity Roofing. I get it.
- 31:29Oh God, I never even made that connection.
- 31:32She. Very much explains the joke in
- 31:34the movie. Does she?
- 31:36Yes. Wow, even that went over my
- 31:37head. No tongue fat sharpie don't.
- 31:41Understand jokes, don't let me on fire.
- 31:45We are learning a lot about you today.
- 31:46Well, I'm a simple man. I don't know.
- 31:49I don't know. It's more and more complex as we
- 31:52go. It's gonna look complicated.
- 31:55Yeah, so she's mad. But hey, it's OK.
- 31:57We're gonna. Have a montage.
- 31:58Yeah, Mexico montage. Yeah.
- 32:02How did do they all have their passports?
- 32:04I don't know if in college I would have been responsible
- 32:07enough to think about getting a passport.
- 32:08I don't know, do you need a passport to cross the border?
- 32:12I thought that was just like. AI feel like you do to leave the
- 32:16country. I, I didn't know if that was
- 32:18like a flight thing or like I, I don't know.
- 32:21I've never left the country or been on a plane.
- 32:23So that's. True.
- 32:24Yeah, we're we're the wrong people to be asking.
- 32:26Yeah, either way they go there and they party and then we now
- 32:30see them partying at a club slash bar or whatever.
- 32:34They're all doing the dance like at the end of the the Animal
- 32:41Crossing DLC. The hotel.
- 32:43Yeah, DJKKDJKK. Comes.
- 32:47Out they all do the same. Dance.
- 32:49Marky is over there grinding up on some random.
- 32:52Dude, and this is where we are getting some of the ruins.
- 32:55Yeah, we are, aren't we? Oh my God.
- 32:57There's a kind best friend stopping other best friend from
- 33:00hooking up with a guy when her boyfriend's literally right
- 33:03fucking there. Like right behind him.
- 33:05Yeah, right there. Yeah.
- 33:06So she, she brings her back to Lucas.
- 33:09Ronnie is also there and he's very creepy and he is making
- 33:13Olivia uncomfortable and then a stranger across the bar is like,
- 33:15hey, leave her alone. And Olivia's like, listen, there
- 33:18are some try adults back there and they're doing shots and he's
- 33:21like, I'm leaving because I always do shots.
- 33:25It's not because you told me to. I.
- 33:26Can't say no to shots, so I'm leaving.
- 33:27Not because of what you say, Yeah.
- 33:28Everybody knows I can't say no to shots.
- 33:30Yeah, big guy. Unfortunately, in this way I
- 33:33relate to Ronnie. I mean, doing shots with the try
- 33:36adults or getting in a fight with Carter, you know, I think
- 33:39I'd do the shots too. Yeah, yeah.
- 33:42I mean, Carter's not like necessarily this big guy that's
- 33:44like he seems like he can fight or anything.
- 33:46He's just. But he's also clearly ready to
- 33:49flirt with Olivia and she is ready to flirt back.
- 33:51And then we see it's closing time.
- 33:53All of her friends are like, we should go find an all night bar.
- 33:55And then he goes, well, I know a cool place to go.
- 33:58It's a bit of a hike. And everybody else immediately
- 34:00is like, hey, red flag city. We're not cool with this.
- 34:03We are all way drunker than you, Olivia.
- 34:05But we can sense that this is a bad idea.
- 34:07Don't go to a second location. Yep.
- 34:10But Olivia does. There's the Uno reverse card on
- 34:14them. They're like, hey, this is our
- 34:15last big break, you know? We have to do this before.
- 34:18Life tears us apart. The ability.
- 34:19Of life, of adulthood tears us apart.
- 34:21And so they all do a drunken hike to this abandoned mission.
- 34:27Yeah, it's just Church Place. Yeah, it's been trashed.
- 34:31There's a pot that smells really bad.
- 34:33Yeah, she's like, it's so bad that she takes a picture of her.
- 34:35She's like gonna gonna check this out later.
- 34:39This point I would think that the tongue would be more dust
- 34:42than anything unless the wax seal was really effective.
- 34:46I don't know how. Yeah, it would.
- 34:49Like if it's like if you bury people and they are just like
- 34:54skeletons after you like, open up the casket, then yeah, like
- 34:59the tongue should be completely disintegrated at this point.
- 35:01Yeah, yeah, we know that. It's been 50 years, so it's.
- 35:05Been a long. Time and maybe, maybe it's just
- 35:08Calyx. He's a trickster demon.
- 35:11That's Calyx. Yeah.
- 35:13So Ronnie also followed. He just pops up.
- 35:16I wrote in my notes, Oh yay, Ronnie's here and one of the
- 35:19characters on screen said. Tyson.
- 35:21Oh, great. Or Ronnie's here.
- 35:23Yeah, yeah, it was. It was a perfect timing.
- 35:27Yeah, so they're just like looking around and then
- 35:29everybody's like, all right, well, this is cool.
- 35:31But can I ask, did did the dude, did Carter bring the cooler with
- 35:36him or was the cooler already there?
- 35:38He didn't bring it with them, he had it ready to go.
- 35:41OK, which again, red flag city. Yeah, I thought it was already
- 35:45at the church and he just opens it up and that right there is
- 35:48especially a red flag. Yeah, No, it was already there
- 35:50because we don't see them carrying it there.
- 35:52But I have to assume that he had it set up and the ice was still
- 35:56ice, so. Yeah, bad.
- 35:58They're OK. They're drunk, I guess, and
- 36:00whatever. But OK, so they're all like,
- 36:03hey, let's. So what are we going to do?
- 36:04I don't know. And then Carter's like, I don't
- 36:05know, let's play truth or dare. So they start with Olivia, who
- 36:09picks truth aliens land, and she's got to choose between
- 36:13saving her friends or saving the entire population of Mexico.
- 36:16But everybody in that room dies and she chooses to save
- 36:18millions. She's like, come on, guys, I got
- 36:20to save a million. Huge for the plot.
- 36:22Yes, it's very important because Olivia wants to do right by the
- 36:26most number of people. Let's see, Lucas or Pinelope is
- 36:32annoyed with Ronnie who's trying to get girls to make out so he
- 36:35says how she says How about you give Tyson a 32nd lap dance?
- 36:38He doesn't even lap dance and he just shakes his butt in front of
- 36:41him. That's the most disappointing
- 36:42lap dance. Yeah, it wouldn't be.
- 36:45He's just complaining the entire time.
- 36:47Come on man. Lucas Streaks Yep, let's see,
- 36:52Marky is chooses Truth and Tyson asks if she's aware that Olivia
- 36:58is in love with Lucas. And so tensions are getting a
- 37:02little bit high. Brad.
- 37:05Brad picks truth in, asks is asked who he would make out with
- 37:08and he says Carter. Olivia dares Tyson to stop
- 37:12forging prescriptions for freshmen.
- 37:14And he's like, oh cool, that's fine.
- 37:15Now I make more money off seniors anyways.
- 37:19I like how he's just like so shitty about it.
- 37:21Pinelope is dared to make out with Olivia and then Carter
- 37:26picks truth and he was like, oh, I just targeted Olivia because
- 37:30she seemed like a pushover and she had a big group of friends.
- 37:33They asked his intentions with Olivia because they are like, oh
- 37:35you're definitely trying to get with her.
- 37:37He's like, no, I'm trying to kill y'all.
- 37:39And it's this is like a very much like it follows kind of
- 37:42like, man, I thought we were having a nice time.
- 37:45Thought you were a good guy. And he's like here at the rules.
- 37:48You don't want it to give back to you.
- 37:49You just got to play the game. It's all real.
- 37:51You got to trust me on it. Olivia gets a smile.
- 37:54Filter your jump scare. And then Marky says great way to
- 37:57end the trip. Liv blames all of this on
- 38:00Olivia, which granted. Kind of is her fault.
- 38:02It kind of is her fault, but everybody else is like a lot
- 38:05nicer about it and they're like, wow, he was being a Dick.
- 38:08Yeah, well, she's the best friend, so as she has certain
- 38:11privileges that they don't have to be a little bit more blunt
- 38:14with her about that stuff. But still, it's like shitty
- 38:18because it clearly was not what she was expecting.
- 38:22She's also mad that, you know, the whole in love with her
- 38:26boyfriend thing, so she's, you know, maybe lashing out a little
- 38:28bit harsher than normal, but whatever, We're back on campus.
- 38:32Brad is lying to his dad about his fake wine loving Canadian
- 38:35girlfriend Kimberly. She has as complex a back story
- 38:38as you do at this point. Yeah, there's four things we
- 38:41know about Kimberly. You know, yeah, there we go.
- 38:43I'm very complicated person. I can understand why he's having
- 38:46a hard time in this imaginary relationship.
- 38:48Olivia Markey haven't really spoken much since they got back.
- 38:52When she's in class, she sees truth or dare carved on the desk
- 38:56at home. She walks in and Tyson is like.
- 38:59But first there's this homeless dude that she passes by out
- 39:02front that hands her a flyer. She gives him some money.
- 39:05No, she gets mail out of their mailbox and she gives him a
- 39:07dollar. That's all there is.
- 39:09Oh, OK, well, and yeah, well, that guy comes back later.
- 39:11Yeah, the flyer, there's just a flyer in the mail.
- 39:15And it also says truth or dare. She walks in and and Tyson's
- 39:19like, hey, Penelope told me I may have gone a little bit too
- 39:22far, so I'm sorry, here is a prescription.
- 39:25And she says, really? And he's like, well, you're not
- 39:27a freshman. I thought, man, I was so
- 39:29disappointed. I thought he was going to write
- 39:31a prescription for, I'm sorry, you know, something like that.
- 39:3525 milligrams of forgiving Tyson.
- 39:38Here's a yeah, 25 seconds of hug.
- 39:43Marky is watching videos of her dad and she's sad and so she
- 39:49goes to make peace with Olivia and she's like, hey, you're my
- 39:52only family. I have left now we don't need to
- 39:54be. She says it in the most
- 39:57exposition, like dumping type of way, though.
- 39:59She's like, you know, like, you've been my very closest
- 40:02friend ever since my dad killed himself.
- 40:03And it's just like, OK. Nope, she specifically used the
- 40:06phrase took his own life. Well, it's the same thing.
- 40:10It's PG13. He don't live themselves as they
- 40:15would say on TikTok or YouTube or whatever.
- 40:18OK and these mojitos that they are drinking have the most mint
- 40:22like easily $11.00 worth of mint leaves in each glass.
- 40:26Yeah, I think they forgot any like what's in there.
- 40:28They just stuck like wolves in there.
- 40:29So many mint leaves. The next day, Olivia finds her
- 40:33car scratched outside with like, truth or dare.
- 40:36And she thinks it's Ronnie because he's standing right
- 40:38there. And she confronts him and he's
- 40:40like, dude, there's nothing on your car.
- 40:42I wish that that I wish she would have seen it gone right,
- 40:45But we don't get that scene. Instead, she walks into the
- 40:48library and she's trying to go find Marky, and then these
- 40:53people just start swarming her with all these derpy faces and
- 40:56truth or dares. So she picks truth and they ask.
- 41:01What secret are you keeping for your best friend?
- 41:04Yeah, and she said she's always, she's constantly cheating on her
- 41:07boyfriend. Nobody said you had to shout it.
- 41:10That wasn't the rule, but you could have whispered it.
- 41:12But she shouts it in a fucking library.
- 41:14Here's the thing. The problem is that we are of a
- 41:17certain age to have regularly watched the 1990s miniseries it
- 41:23and in the library we do see was it John Ritter's character?
- 41:28No, it's. No, it's Richie.
- 41:32Is it Richie? No, it's the fucking librarian.
- 41:35No, no, somebody else comes in is looking for Mike.
- 41:41As adults, yes. I can't remember.
- 41:43As he comes in and Pennywise is up there shouting at him and
- 41:47he's generally keeping a normal volume until the end of that.
- 41:51So like we know that it's possible to.
- 41:53Think there's Richie? Yeah, yeah.
- 41:54So you've got like the demon is shouting at you and you can
- 41:58still like keep your wits about you enough to not shout back.
- 42:02I I get where it came from, but yeah.
- 42:05So we've seen it happen in movies.
- 42:07So like got to give me something a little bit more to work with
- 42:11here. True, true.
- 42:12And yeah, she shouts it. And, you know, in reality,
- 42:16there's nobody swarming here. And she's just, like, shouting
- 42:19it really loudly for everybody, including Lucas to hear, who
- 42:23storms off. And Marquis follows and
- 42:25threatens to break Olivia's hand if she doesn't like go over
- 42:28here. Yeah.
- 42:30So that's what happened. Ronnie's at a bar and he's being
- 42:33a creep and then his. This is only character trait in
- 42:37this movie. We never get any normal scenes
- 42:39with this guy. It's only him like making like
- 42:41really really bad attempts. So trying to hit on women.
- 42:46Like it's almost like fuck, what's the term?
- 42:49It's not assault. I mean, I mean kind of
- 42:53harassment. Harassment.
- 42:55That's the yeah. He's basically just like
- 42:57harassing people the entire movie.
- 42:58Well it's OK cuz we have Final Destination 3 next week.
- 43:01So Frankie. Yeah.
- 43:03So this is just kind of a warm up.
- 43:05True. Frankie is 10 times worse.
- 43:07Yeah, OK. You're right.
- 43:10So the his unfortunate unwitting victim turns into calyx and asks
- 43:16truth or dare. And he's like dare.
- 43:19And she goes, I dare you to show everybody you're a pool cue.
- 43:24And then he gets up on the pool table and he's like, this fine
- 43:29lady is near me to show you all what I'm packing.
- 43:31And somebody in the crowd goes, it's not that big.
- 43:34And he goes to Beth and she goes Nope, someone else.
- 43:37Yeah, but she didn't like it either.
- 43:38It's just like, like, dude, you're like, you were about to
- 43:42show it to everybody. You don't have any problems with
- 43:44that. Like but now that like one
- 43:46person criticized it. Now that somebody said it's tiny
- 43:49and you're refusing, I'm more inclined to believe it's tiny.
- 43:51Yeah, like, because you know it's true.
- 43:53Just whip it out. Yeah, just flip it out.
- 43:55Just say you're a grower, you know?
- 43:58It's really cold in here. Yeah, that's what they said
- 44:00about Lucas. Yeah.
- 44:02Would it have been really cold in a mission in Mexico on spring
- 44:04break? And maybe at night.
- 44:07I feel like he's just gonna get cold at night.
- 44:08That's true. That's fair.
- 44:10OK. Anyway, he starts to walk away
- 44:14and there's like a pool cue just pointed up on its own.
- 44:19It's just no, it's a ball. He.
- 44:21Sits on the 8 ball. No, first he's walking towards
- 44:24the cue stick. Oh, I see.
- 44:26He's. Gonna And somebody turns him
- 44:27around, and when he does he slips on the pool ball and then
- 44:30breaks his neck. I like how the demon had a
- 44:33backup. Yeah.
- 44:35It's like, gonna stab us a lot. No, no.
- 44:38Yeah. OK, so back at the house, Olivia
- 44:41is trying to explain to her friends what happened and
- 44:42obviously nobody believes it. And then they all get
- 44:45notifications of Ronnie falling and breaking his neck.
- 44:50I have to assume these are people like texting them.
- 44:52Yeah, that it happened cuz this happens a lot in movies where
- 44:57some footage happens and suddenly everybody's getting the
- 45:00notification at the same time. Yeah, it could be Snapchat, I
- 45:03don't know. They make a point of that in
- 45:05this movie of it being a thing. Yeah, who knows?
- 45:08Either way, they all see him die.
- 45:11Olivia says it's the game. Yeah, and I think either before
- 45:14then or maybe after Lucas, he stormed out because he doesn't
- 45:18want to trust Olivia because Olivia apparently was trying to
- 45:21him. So he's like, fuck it, I'm out.
- 45:23He packed his bags. He's leaving.
- 45:25On his walk, he gets asked truth or dare, partially leaked
- 45:30through his earbuds and then partially through graffiti.
- 45:34Yeah, the graffiti one's kinda cool.
- 45:36And so, and then he's got a burn on his arm.
- 45:38Yeah. And he calls, which that didn't
- 45:40look like burn marks, that looked like cuts.
- 45:42Yeah, it looked like scars. As somebody who has burnt and
- 45:46cut myself on numerous occasions, I can tell you the
- 45:49difference. Yeah, yeah.
- 45:50So yeah, he calls Olivia and apparently, like he just starts.
- 45:54He he says that he's got the question too.
- 45:57And then he answers the question that he gets, which I think she
- 46:00understands what the question is because he says like something
- 46:03like every day I wish I woke up next to her instead or something
- 46:06like that. He says he wonders what it'd be
- 46:08like to wake up next year. He's like, I love Marky, but I
- 46:10do sometimes. What would it be like to be with
- 46:13Liv? Yeah.
- 46:13And then you see on the wall where the graffiti was that the
- 46:16question is now how? Do you really feel about Olivia?
- 46:19Yeah, exactly. So everybody meets up again.
- 46:22Marky's the last in, and she's still pissed, and she doesn't
- 46:26believe what they're saying, but she's next gets a text message.
- 46:31And she's like, fine, dare. And she's dared to follow
- 46:35through on her promise and break Olivia's hand.
- 46:37And she was like, you could have very easily texted me that.
- 46:40And Olivia's like, do you see a phone in my hand?
- 46:42You can schedule text messages. You can have somebody else send
- 46:45a text message. Like, it's pretty easy.
- 46:49Yeah. But either way, Olivia's very
- 46:52serious about trying to get her to break her hand.
- 46:55She's like, I'm pissed at you right now, but I'm not going to
- 46:58do this. And then Olivia Goats are on in
- 47:01the worst fucking way possible. Yeah, she's like, don't be a
- 47:04coward, like you're fucking dead or whatever like that.
- 47:07Bitch. Yeah, well, she knew what she
- 47:09had to do. It pushed the right buttons.
- 47:12It broke the hand. She saved her by doing that.
- 47:14But yeah, that's that's a harsh thing to say.
- 47:16Lucas and Brad took her to the hospital, and at the vending
- 47:18machine, Brad is asked truth or dare, and he chooses truth.
- 47:22And then all of a sudden, oh, his dad's there.
- 47:24Yeah. And he's forced to come out to
- 47:27him. So much happened so fast here.
- 47:28Who the fuck was this guy? It's just this random patient.
- 47:30It's just like. Truth.
- 47:31Or he's a dead guy. Truth or dare from a dead guy?
- 47:34Wow, that that's the sequel to this movie.
- 47:37Truth or dare from a dead guy? Yeah, yeah.
- 47:39His dad's just there. Yeah.
- 47:40And he, like, he like, comes by as like, yeah, it came out to
- 47:43him, yeah. He's like, they feel mostly OK
- 47:45about him. He's like, for the first time in
- 47:46my life, I stood up to him. Yeah.
- 47:48I'm surprised that all of that was off screen.
- 47:50Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like they introduced this.
- 47:53It's a very important piece of his character.
- 47:54And like, like I said, we're getting his feelings and
- 47:57perspective on it, and I think that's important, but I also
- 48:00just feel like we're not really getting a satisfying resolution.
- 48:03To it. We're going to do this, but
- 48:04we're not going to commit to this.
- 48:06Yeah, like that's just like the bare minimum.
- 48:08Like how gay are we allowed to be with PG13 in 2018?
- 48:15OK, has to be forced to come out by that guy.
- 48:20Fucking MPA if it's gonna be Yeah, MPA has to have that.
- 48:24OK, so. Man OK Tyson is at his Med
- 48:29school interview the next day and Lucas, Brad and Olivia
- 48:35figure out that he's next and they see Penelope and they're
- 48:39trying to find him. They go look for him but he is
- 48:42already back there in his interview doing mostly OK.
- 48:46Goes from family of doctors and he gives the most bullshit like
- 48:50soccer and. I want to help people.
- 48:52People really need help at this time right now and I'm I'm just
- 48:55here to help. I could do something
- 48:57self-serving like be a headphone manager.
- 49:00I want to can punch you. I know, but like and she's like
- 49:03even. Like other doctors where you're
- 49:05gonna have like insane student loan debts cuz it sounds like
- 49:08your family is very. Well, yeah.
- 49:10And I like how she's, like, how very noble of you.
- 49:13And he's just like smirks, like, yeah, I'm a noble guy.
- 49:16I honestly feel like she was being a little bit sarcastic and
- 49:20he didn't pick up on it. I think so.
- 49:22Very common for that type of man who thinks that they just nail
- 49:24it to not assume that a woman can have any like.
- 49:28But that's also such a bullshit answer, you know, like everybody
- 49:31can see right through that. Oh, you want to be a doctor
- 49:33because you want to have fucking money and power.
- 49:36You know, that's really all it is.
- 49:38Yeah, it's the first thing that you compare it to is being a
- 49:41hedge fund. Like that's clearly what your
- 49:44what your goal is, is for money. Yeah.
- 49:46Anyway, he leaves and everybody's relieved.
- 49:49And then the Dean says, oh, you forgot your bag.
- 49:53So he goes back in and she smile, filters, closes the door,
- 49:58locks it, and asks if he really sells prescriptions to freshmen.
- 50:05Yep. And he's like, who the fuck told
- 50:06you that? I don't do that.
- 50:07Well, at first he's like, what did they put you up to this now?
- 50:11Yeah. And then he, like, grabs his
- 50:12stuff and he starts to walk out. And then he.
- 50:16Derps his face up. He.
- 50:17Derps his face up. He freaks out.
- 50:20And he's like, why would you say that?
- 50:22Why would you say that? Who told you that?
- 50:24And I don't, I don't forge subscription prescriptions.
- 50:27And then he takes out a pen, his magic pen, his lucky pen.
- 50:32Stabs himself in the eye. Yeah.
- 50:34And then he like, bashes his face up against the wall to like
- 50:38drag. In deeper in.
- 50:39Yeah, that was a nice little touch.
- 50:41Yeah, so they all go back to the house.
- 50:45Penalope is very drunk so Marky puts her to bed and then they
- 50:49all go looking for Carter online.
- 50:52Oh, and we're just like, by the way, we all need to start
- 50:54picking truth. All we have to do is just tell
- 50:55truths. The entire time, Yeah.
- 50:56Just tell truth. Just be honest.
- 50:58We'll get through this. We'll get through this.
- 51:00And so they're Lucas, Brad and. No.
- 51:05Is Brad there? Yeah.
- 51:06OK. And Olivia are all trying to
- 51:09research Carter, but they can't find anything.
- 51:11And then Marky comes and she's like, have you googled Mexico
- 51:15truth or? I know and it's just like first
- 51:18hit video. Here's the thing though.
- 51:22She wasn't wrong. What were they doing?
- 51:25Like Google search, Carter. All right, well, surely we'll
- 51:29hit something here, right? Yeah.
- 51:31Facebook card it is so bad. It it is really bad, but also
- 51:37like man I I don't know what kind of weird shit I'd be
- 51:40Googling in this scenario. So I was thinking about, I was
- 51:43going to call this out for like one of my absurds.
- 51:46Like what She searched truth or dare in Mexico.
- 51:49Yeah, that's going to bring up a lot of stuff.
- 51:51But if you if you know how to Google Foo enough and you like
- 51:55adjust the settings, you can get like some like hits.
- 52:00And if they did something just right, they could pull up like a
- 52:04new story about you. It says truth or dare burn
- 52:06somebody in Mexico, you know, OK.
- 52:08There we go, Josh. You're a fucking grad student
- 52:11and you don't even know how to use JSTOR.
- 52:14I don't even know what JSTOR is but made me feel bad about it.
- 52:17One thing that I want to beg all directors out there, unless your
- 52:22main character is about 74 years old, please stop having people
- 52:28type in a full question with capitalization and punctuation
- 52:32into Google. Nobody does that.
- 52:34Yeah, that is weird. But like nobody does that.
- 52:36Like you wouldn't take the time to all right, let's go ahead and
- 52:39shift M exaco dude, like. My routine is I just mash
- 52:44buttons and it's like not even words but Google.
- 52:47I might figure that out. A lot of times it does a pretty
- 52:50good job, but like whenever I look at what I search like
- 52:53that's not even a word. It's.
- 52:54Not a thing, but it's weird how Google knew what I was going
- 52:57for. Sometimes it does.
- 52:58Piano up is upstairs while all that's going on and she's
- 53:01throwing up because she's sick and she wokes up in the mirror
- 53:04and her mirror reflection asks her truth or dare.
- 53:07God I wish my mirror reflection was this nice to me after
- 53:10throwing up. Dude yeah she's like hey
- 53:12beautiful. Like I need that.
- 53:14I don't need that when I'm sweaty and red eyed.
- 53:17That was nice, like the demon was kind of hitting on.
- 53:19Her, yeah. You know, maybe.
- 53:21Kayla's know she's single now. Yeah.
- 53:23She's like, I'm going to do something that I think you're
- 53:25going to be able to handle because you and me, this is
- 53:28happening. She she tries to ask for truth.
- 53:32Yeah. And she Kayla's Kayla's Penelo
- 53:36says that's not how this game. Works just keeps asking the
- 53:40question over and over again. And downstairs, Marky has gotten
- 53:42pissed again. Her and Olivia are going back
- 53:44and forth. So Marky storms out, and then
- 53:45she storms right back, and she's like, you guys need to come out
- 53:47right now. And this, I think, is probably
- 53:50the most realistic of the friendship dynamics.
- 53:52It's like, yeah, we're in the middle of a big fight.
- 53:54Bigger deal right now. Yeah, we gotta deal with this.
- 53:56So she wasn't allowed to pick truth.
- 53:58She had to pick dare. And she's gotta walk along the
- 54:01edge of the roof until she finishes the handle of vodka she
- 54:04was drinking and you still got about half the bottle to go.
- 54:07I personally I would do Mario Kart rules where you're not
- 54:12allowed to drink and drive. So go go go go go.
- 54:14Drink really fast and then finish your walking.
- 54:17Yeah, you would probably still feel it, but like, you know,
- 54:20yeah, you might be able to get it done quick enough.
- 54:21But she was already drunk and someone at.
- 54:23That that's true. She was already in a really bad
- 54:25place. So Lucas goes up to kind of like
- 54:28be around to help her. Marky and Brad go get a
- 54:32mattress, and Olivia's trying to clear a path around the outside
- 54:35of the house. Yeah, cuz she's coming up at a
- 54:36part right here where there is a gate, and it's one of those
- 54:39gates that has like little spikes on the top.
- 54:41Great for protection, not so great if a demon is trying to
- 54:45kill your friend. Yeah.
- 54:45It's something you always have to consider when you're buying a
- 54:47house. Exactly.
- 54:48Yeah. So they try to put the mattress
- 54:50over top of that, but it just like goes right through the
- 54:52mattress. Whose mattress was it?
- 54:54Whose mattress is fucked up now? It's penal wolves cuz like I
- 54:57think when she lands on it she's like, is this my bed?
- 54:59No, it's just because she's like drunk and on a mattress.
- 55:02True, but I also thought maybe it was her bed.
- 55:04Like she's the one doing this. Like she has to deal with the
- 55:06aftermath of this. Listen, I do that sober
- 55:09sometimes and I fall asleep on the couch and I wake up and I'm
- 55:11like. I like that this happens again
- 55:16where Olivia gets in the car and she tries to ram down the gate
- 55:20and it just doesn't go down. I'm liking the trend of movies
- 55:23being like, that's not a thing and we need to let people know
- 55:25that that's not a thing. Except she does get it the
- 55:28second time and maybe she like weakened it enough.
- 55:30But once your car is going a certain speed and you hit an
- 55:34object, the airbags will deploy. Not only that, you're probably
- 55:38fucking up your car. I mean, just like Texas Chainsaw
- 55:403D, whenever they run into the gate, they can't start the car
- 55:42back up. Like, they do it again
- 55:44eventually, but you're fucking it up.
- 55:46Yeah, well, she knocks it down and.
- 55:49They get the mattress on there just in time for Penelope to go
- 55:53last drop and then she passes out.
- 55:56I mean, Vin Diesel showed that it is actually possible to land
- 56:01on the car hood and not have any damage.
- 56:03They didn't even need the fucking mattress.
- 56:05You have to have the power of family and I'd say the way
- 56:07everybody came together for her in this moment was the power of
- 56:10family. Yeah, like the mattress was just
- 56:12so unnecessary. They have found Giselle online.
- 56:16Yes, the woman from the opening. Yes, the woman from the opening
- 56:20that video that they found on Google very conveniently they.
- 56:25They, I like how they're, they're trying to like, they're
- 56:28like OK, DMR on Facebook, but then Marky has all the best
- 56:31ideas too. She's like threaten her.
- 56:33Well, not first. She's like create a new account
- 56:35because we don't want this traced back to you.
- 56:37So that doesn't matter, but. Then forgot about IP addresses.
- 56:40And I like how like Olivia is typing out this really nice
- 56:43message, like, hey, can we please meet you?
- 56:45And then Marky's like, that's wrong.
- 56:47Like she starts typing. She's like, meet me, meet up
- 56:51with me. I'm playing the truth or Dare
- 56:53game. If you don't meet up with me,
- 56:55I'm going to say and outside your family's house until I'm
- 56:57dared to kill them like this. And I told Jesse like that,
- 57:00like, I don't think that I would even buy that if I got that
- 57:03online because I, I just feel like that's just something that
- 57:06like people would say in general on the Internet.
- 57:08Like that's not like that's, that's not even a threat.
- 57:11Yeah, and she has responded and is ready to meet them.
- 57:14There's a very important note that I forgot to mention as we
- 57:17were talking about piano lives there, the gutters on this
- 57:20house. Immaculate.
- 57:22Immaculate. Yeah.
- 57:23So fucking clean. I refuse to believe it because
- 57:27there's no ways that college kids are doing it.
- 57:28And if you were a landlord renting to college kids, you're
- 57:32doing the bare minimum of house upkeep.
- 57:34Yeah. Yeah.
- 57:35It just, it's one of those really unfortunate things about
- 57:38being over 30 and a homeowner and a boring old fogey that you
- 57:41notice in movies. Yeah, that's true.
- 57:44Yeah, I don't want to look at ours right now.
- 57:48And especially because we cleaned them a year ago and it
- 57:50was a whole fucking thing. Yeah, have to do it again.
- 57:52But now fall happened and leaves fell.
- 57:54All happened and it's winter, and when it's spring, we're
- 57:56gonna have to redo it again. And.
- 58:00It hurt so bad last time. It sucks.
- 58:02OK, so they go and they meet up with her and.
- 58:08She's talking about her friend Sam, who trashed the place.
- 58:10Yeah, she said. It happened at like, this church
- 58:12that they all went to. Yeah, they trashed the place.
- 58:15They I asked why Penelope wasn't allowed to choose truth, and she
- 58:20goes, oh, well, we have house rules where it's two truth and a
- 58:23dare. Yeah.
- 58:24Which I do agree with her. It does make the game more fun.
- 58:27Yeah, it does also make this situation worse.
- 58:31Yeah, like I don't blame them for making that choice because
- 58:34that's like, yeah, that's a more fun game to play if you're
- 58:37drinking with your friends. But.
- 58:39So they got the idea that they were going to pass along to
- 58:42another group of the mission. That way they would be like,
- 58:44have longer breaks between their turns and I'm like, wait, you're
- 58:48still playing? She goes, yeah, like, I'm still
- 58:50in the game. You guys were just pulled into
- 58:51the rotation. Really thought he would get more
- 58:55than just five of you guys. Yeah.
- 58:58And she. She.
- 58:59Says her name. She says Olivia when she's
- 59:01talking to her, she's like, wait, I never told you my name,
- 59:03how'd you know? And then she pulls out.
- 59:05Again, she reveals that she picked there and she was stared
- 59:09to kill Olivia and here it looked like Penelope got pulled
- 59:14in front of Olivia. Body shield.
- 59:17That's honestly like what it looked like in.
- 59:19The world. Somebody pushed her.
- 59:20Yes, something happened, she got shot, they were done trying to
- 59:25work around her drinking for the PG13 rating.
- 59:28The story was from them. If they were going to tell the
- 59:31cops anything, she was drunk. She lost her balance.
- 59:33She fell in on a bullet. Yeah.
- 59:35Like nobody shot the gun. Like she just fell on the
- 59:38bullet. That's what happens, yeah.
- 59:40And even in her death, we still have it cut down a little bit
- 59:43less blood. Yeah, they don't really seem all
- 59:46that fazed by it either. They're like, yeah, she she was
- 59:49the lowest of friendship from So Lucas and Brad are holding
- 59:58Giselle down and then because she hasn't completed her dare,
- 1:00:00she becomes Caleb, Yes, and shoots herself.
- 1:00:04So Olivia is talking to the detective about everything but
- 1:00:08leaves out the truth or dare. They did all manage to avoid
- 1:00:13telling Matt Parks they realize how to sound.
- 1:00:15They figure that the mission is a key piece of this.
- 1:00:19Olivia, Lucas and Mark are going to research the mission while
- 1:00:22Brad goes and talks to his dad. They're downstairs and her
- 1:00:26Olivia's laptop is dying. So Mark, he's like hey, your
- 1:00:30charger's upstairs in my room. So she goes up there and while
- 1:00:34she's in there the the homeless dude from out front, yeah, he is
- 1:00:40in there and asks for truth or dare.
- 1:00:42Yeah. And then he steps out and he's
- 1:00:44like, what am I doing here? And he like runs out the house
- 1:00:45and Lucas chases. Him.
- 1:00:46Yeah. Meanwhile, downstairs, they had
- 1:00:49found some stuff on the mission, and Ezrez was the only survivor
- 1:00:52of a massacre down there. And as they're looking into this
- 1:00:55a little bit more, they hear Olivia scream, run up there.
- 1:00:57Lucas ushers him out and Olivia tells Marky she was dared to
- 1:01:02sleep with Lucas and Marky's like why the fuck would she pick
- 1:01:05dare first of all, yeah right. And then she leaves the house
- 1:01:10and looks like what's wrong. She goes ask Olivia and then
- 1:01:14when he comes in she tells him that she has a huge secret and
- 1:01:17she knows that the demon is going to make her reveal it and
- 1:01:20she doesn't want to tell Marky because she says it's like the
- 1:01:22worst thing she could possibly tell her.
- 1:01:25Yeah, so then he's like, what's the dare?
- 1:01:27And then she just kisses him and she's like, oh, I'm the dare.
- 1:01:29And she's like, I'm so sorry it. Took him a little bit to like,
- 1:01:34'cause like he says, what's the dare?
- 1:01:36And she starts kissing and he's into it for a minute and then
- 1:01:38he's like, but wait, what's the dare?
- 1:01:41But I think this is really stupid.
- 1:01:42This is almost like a a dumb romance line here.
- 1:01:46But like she's like, I'm so sorry.
- 1:01:47He's like she's. Just like I I'm only doing this
- 1:01:51because of the dare, he goes. I'm.
- 1:01:52Not yeah, I'm not like, yeah, like it's just, Oh my God.
- 1:01:57Nobody in this friend group is good people, except for maybe
- 1:02:01Penelope and Brad. Penelope just got drunk, and you
- 1:02:05know what? She's a teen.
- 1:02:06I was doing the same thing at that age, Junior.
- 1:02:08Senior in college, she's of legal drinking age.
- 1:02:11And that's the time when you go wild and then you become a full
- 1:02:15adult with adult responsibilities and you stop
- 1:02:16drinking that much. Yeah.
- 1:02:17And then Brad? And Brad are the only two little
- 1:02:20people in. This Brad is just like I wanna
- 1:02:23be close to my family but I'm scared they won't accept me and
- 1:02:26it really sucks. Why did we?
- 1:02:29Why don't we get more? These two people are too normal
- 1:02:32for this movie. They don't have enough drama
- 1:02:35going on. And so we gotta have Lucy Hale
- 1:02:37and her ginormous eyes cry when Lucas mid coitus says that he's
- 1:02:42in love with Mike. This is my idea of what happened
- 1:02:46here. Like the demon was like, this is
- 1:02:47going to be so bad. Everybody's going to hate this,
- 1:02:50but they're so into it and they're having a great time.
- 1:02:52He's like, I got to kill the bus here.
- 1:02:54So he's like, all right, I'm going to dare him to reveal who
- 1:02:56he really loves. That way he can just make this
- 1:02:58super fucking awkward and kill the entire moment.
- 1:03:01You know, if this wasn't Fiji 13, he wouldn't say I'm in love
- 1:03:04with Marky, he'd say Marky Marky.
- 1:03:08He's like I had to finish before I told the truth.
- 1:03:13Man, that's one of my grocery jokes I made on the show.
- 1:03:16It's fine. Well, yeah, like it just it
- 1:03:20kills it. Like he's like, yeah, cuz he
- 1:03:23doesn't to her out of nowhere. He's like, I'm in love with
- 1:03:25Marky. And she's like, Oh, yeah, OK,
- 1:03:31OK. He's like, I'm sorry, it made me
- 1:03:34say it's like, no, that's what you actually feel though.
- 1:03:36So she just storms off drama. Yeah, I mean.
- 1:03:40Like to be fair, he did say he was sleeping with her of his own
- 1:03:44volition so. Yeah, yeah, I had.
- 1:03:48This is messy. It's getting really messy now.
- 1:03:51So Marky's watching a video with her dad and then the dad gets
- 1:03:54possessed by Calyx and asks why she keeps the gun he used and
- 1:03:59she says sometimes she thinks about using it herself.
- 1:04:01And this is really dark and really sad.
- 1:04:03Yeah, and the dad's like, well, maybe you should go get it.
- 1:04:05And that's even more fucked up. So Olivia and Lucas, they're
- 1:04:10looking for Inez. She lives in Tijuana.
- 1:04:14She has not said a word in 50 years, and she writes 20 pages
- 1:04:18with five words each. Basically she was in the
- 1:04:23mission. The priest that worked there was
- 1:04:26a very bad priest and a very bad man who did bad things to the
- 1:04:29girls. One girl summoned the demon
- 1:04:31Calyx, who possessed them as they were playing a game of hide
- 1:04:34and seek, killed the priest, ripped him into a million parts.
- 1:04:38It took them a week to find his head and then the the demon
- 1:04:42didn't want to leave and the only way they could trap the
- 1:04:46demon, they couldn't stop him but they could trap him was to
- 1:04:49sacrifice. Read this incantation 7 times
- 1:04:52and make the sacrifice by their own hand.
- 1:04:54Place it in the pot with wax seal.
- 1:04:57That was the pot that was broken.
- 1:04:58This all sounds so fucking made-up like the this is so
- 1:05:03weird. Like you have to do all this and
- 1:05:04you have to do this with wax. Like just like who the fuck
- 1:05:07would know to do this? They definitely didn't have wax
- 1:05:09already. No.
- 1:05:11So the pot was broken by Sam so they're like OK he's gotta be
- 1:05:15the one to do the sacrifice if he's even still alive.
- 1:05:18And they find out that Inez was the one who had summoned Calyx
- 1:05:22cuz she's the one who had cut out her tongue.
- 1:05:24No tongue, no tongue, no tongue. Fat Sharpie.
- 1:05:29Brad's dad. Yeah, he comes to see Brad and
- 1:05:32Brad goes outside to talk to him, but he gets so all derpy is
- 1:05:38awesome. Through, through.
- 1:05:40No, it's through his walkie-talkie.
- 1:05:42Yeah, through the walkie-talkie. That's right.
- 1:05:43So Brad grabs his gun and he's like, I need you to beg for your
- 1:05:46life. And his dad is like, I
- 1:05:49understand what you're going through.
- 1:05:50I want you to know that I support you and I love you.
- 1:05:53Wrong time for this, Dad. He's like, what's this gonna
- 1:05:56prove? What kind of point are you
- 1:05:58trying to make that right now, Brad?
- 1:05:59And it's just like, dude, I am telling you, I just need you to
- 1:06:02beg. I will explain everything
- 1:06:04afterwards. Just beg for a second, please.
- 1:06:06He's like, what's I gonna do, Brad, Huh.
- 1:06:08You big man Brad. Send his partner, who had been
- 1:06:11there when Brad came out. He was like, I'm gonna let you
- 1:06:13guys talk, I'm gonna go grab the coffee.
- 1:06:16Comes back around the corner and shoots Brad.
- 1:06:21Can't even know it was Brad like.
- 1:06:24And now we've got mad, sad Brad Dad.
- 1:06:28Wow, mad sad Brad dad. And that's it.
- 1:06:32That's just the end of their entire storyline.
- 1:06:35I told Jesse it would have been funny if he started begging for
- 1:06:38him. He's like, no, please don't die,
- 1:06:39please don't die. No, I don't do anything.
- 1:06:41I beg of you. I go over his corpse.
- 1:06:45So it's just like, man, it's just one of those things like
- 1:06:49that's so frustrating. This also reminded me, by the
- 1:06:52way, of the 2017 Truth or Dare, like in the gas station.
- 1:06:55Give me a dollar. Just give me a dollar, like,
- 1:06:57yeah. Pack of gum, anything.
- 1:06:58Literally just. Give me a penny.
- 1:06:59Like I, you know, just like, whatever.
- 1:07:01Like, yeah, it was basically the exact same thing once I'm at
- 1:07:03gunpoint like that. So Olivia is dared, Olivia is
- 1:07:10asked truth or dare and she picks dare again and Lucas and
- 1:07:13Marky are like fucking really? Yeah, except this time the demon
- 1:07:17that's wised up to the whole thing is like, OK, I dare you to
- 1:07:20tell Marky the truth about what really happened between you and
- 1:07:23her dad. So she tells Marky that she was
- 1:07:26there the night her dad died. She'd come over looking for her
- 1:07:31and she wasn't there. But he was drinking and he
- 1:07:34offered her a drink and they drank a few together.
- 1:07:36So that's. Yeah.
- 1:07:37I mean, she's been like, in high school.
- 1:07:39Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:07:40He had been fired and he was stressed.
- 1:07:43And she was saying, like, it's OK, me and Marky will help you
- 1:07:45figure things out. And then he says that she's
- 1:07:49beautiful and tried to kiss her and she pushed him off and he
- 1:07:51tried multiple times. And that's bad.
- 1:07:53Yes. And then she was like, you got a
- 1:07:55sob. I'm telling Marky.
- 1:07:56And he said I would rather die than for her to find out.
- 1:07:59And she goes, well, maybe that would be better for Marky.
- 1:08:02And this is too much for Olivia to hear, or for Marky to hear.
- 1:08:06Yeah, she wants to get out of there, and I don't blame her
- 1:08:09here. Yeah, that's just so much.
- 1:08:11So that's a lot to have dropped on you all at once.
- 1:08:15Yep, they find out that the the Facebook message they'd sent
- 1:08:21Giselle was traced to their IP, and the detective's like, yeah.
- 1:08:25Like, obviously we're the, we're the cops.
- 1:08:29He's like. Yeah, you know, like this is
- 1:08:31like one O 1 bullshit, right? Here, Yeah.
- 1:08:33He's like, I'm gonna try and keep the four of you alive.
- 1:08:35And she was like, wait, who else is alive?
- 1:08:37And he says Sam Meehan, she. Pops on the picture and it's
- 1:08:42it's Carter. She asks for some water and
- 1:08:44while his back turns, she takes a picture of the file so she has
- 1:08:48his address. And then she's like, am I being
- 1:08:50detained? I'm.
- 1:08:50A sovereign citizen. So Liv finds Marky with the gun
- 1:08:54in her room, and Marky says that it wasn't Olivia's fault.
- 1:08:59Her dad had, you know, made. Multiple times.
- 1:09:02Yeah, Marky, I just, I feel so fucking bad for her.
- 1:09:05Yeah, yeah. They decide that they're going
- 1:09:09to go burst into Sam's apartment.
- 1:09:13He's covered the walls in tinfoil.
- 1:09:15Yeah, yeah, he's like. What, what kinds of things is he
- 1:09:19getting on his turns? Well, from what he's been
- 1:09:24saying, like he's not getting anything because he has nothing
- 1:09:26there to like, give it to him. I don't see how that could be
- 1:09:28possible. Like the tinfoil could RIP.
- 1:09:31He could like, like things could happen.
- 1:09:34Like we've seen Calix get into other situations.
- 1:09:38Yeah, he also can't live without ever leaving because he has to
- 1:09:42get food and things like that. This.
- 1:09:45Is the biggest spot point. I just don't believe that this
- 1:09:47is the safe haven he is presenting it to be.
- 1:09:50Yeah, it's not, no, but whatever.
- 1:09:52It's worked for him well enough. And they're like, OK, like
- 1:09:56you're coming with us. You're the only one that can
- 1:09:57solve this. He's like, why should I believe
- 1:09:59you? And they're like, well, we all
- 1:10:00want this to stop, too. And Olivia's like, plus, I got
- 1:10:03this. And he goes, oh, yeah, Olivia's
- 1:10:05not going to shoot anybody. And she says, try me, I dare
- 1:10:08you. I thought she was going to
- 1:10:10shoot. It's like, I know, prove a
- 1:10:12point. Like I will actually hit you.
- 1:10:14Yeah, that's the point. You need to prove.
- 1:10:16Yeah. OK, So they get there and she
- 1:10:18gets them to start resetting the like, incantation, mantra,
- 1:10:21whatever. And as he's doing it, the
- 1:10:23mission is shaking. Lucas is asked midway through
- 1:10:27this, and he chooses Dare. And he's got to choose between
- 1:10:32Marky and Olivia and Olivia's like, you already chose Marky.
- 1:10:35And he goes, no, I got to choose which of you to kill.
- 1:10:38He had some really flawed watching, unless something
- 1:10:41happened between like the last truth or dare and this one,
- 1:10:44because he's like, I chose dare because I didn't want you guys
- 1:10:48to have to choose dare. But Olivia chose dare last.
- 1:10:52So they had two truths to spare. So we could have chosen truth.
- 1:10:56Then then Mark, he could have chosen truth and then I get, you
- 1:11:00know, like I think they he could have like all the dude had to do
- 1:11:03is like say like two more times. I think that they had plenty of
- 1:11:06time. It was just a really dumb move
- 1:11:08on his part. In the middle of all this, the
- 1:11:11recitation is finished and this is when Olivia drops the tongue
- 1:11:14bomb. And at first he's not going to
- 1:11:17do it. And then they're like, we all
- 1:11:18want this to be over. And he goes fuck it.
- 1:11:20And so he starts cutting his tongue from the bottom.
- 1:11:23I don't know, I thought that's the method I would go.
- 1:11:27Top. Yeah, like you've got, you've
- 1:11:29got better leverage. Yeah, that way, yeah.
- 1:11:32Anyway, it doesn't matter because Lucas gets possessed
- 1:11:36because he hasn't made his kill. Marky and liver trying to stop
- 1:11:40but he kills. Marky, Sam and then himself.
- 1:11:45Yeah. He then goes and gets Sam.
- 1:11:47Yeah, stabs him in the gun, then slices his own throat.
- 1:11:50So Liv has an idea she tells Marky that she needs to pick
- 1:11:53deer and she is dared to shoot Olivia and she tells Marky to
- 1:11:59refuse. So Marky does and when the gun
- 1:12:01starts to turn Calyx is going to shoot.
- 1:12:05Liv knocks the gun to the side and she gets shot anyway.
- 1:12:08She. Was banking on that to work.
- 1:12:09That is such a risky move. And in that moment when Calyx is
- 1:12:13possessing Marky, she asks him truth or dare.
- 1:12:17He picks truth and she asks how to stop him.
- 1:12:19And he cuz he has to tell the truth.
- 1:12:21And he's like, you can't. He's like, you can't Carter.
- 1:12:23Was the only one that could have ended it.
- 1:12:25So now you just kind of like the game ends when you all die.
- 1:12:28So that's when Olivia and Marky decide that they're going to
- 1:12:33film themselves in a YouTube video and globally invite
- 1:12:38everybody into this game of truth or dare.
- 1:12:40I think this would have made more sense if they had shown
- 1:12:42that she had a following like everybody is watching this
- 1:12:45video. All we know is that she was
- 1:12:48using her YouTube for Habitat for Humanity stuff.
- 1:12:51Yeah. So the point that the Habitat
- 1:12:52for Humanity coordinator like was like waiting for your next
- 1:12:56videos. What is this coordinator person
- 1:12:58going to think of her when this pops up on her channel next?
- 1:13:03Well, she's gonna be having bigger problems than that
- 1:13:07because she's gonna be playing truth or dare.
- 1:13:09I wish we had seen a watch count at the bottom of that.
- 1:13:12That would have been cool, yeah, just to see how many people.
- 1:13:15But you see, it's getting like old kids, too.
- 1:13:17It ends with I think it's like a kid.
- 1:13:19Maybe not No, it's like college people.
- 1:13:21But I think you do see some like children watching the video that
- 1:13:24are having to like do this shit now.
- 1:13:25Like she's like I pick you, you know, over the world, you know,
- 1:13:29cuz of the opening parachute. Yeah, whatever that that's the
- 1:13:33movie. That's the movie, I'm bumping it
- 1:13:34down to a 6.7 or 6.5 cuz honestly like things just kind
- 1:13:38of fall apart fell apart the more we talked about it.
- 1:13:40Yeah, I mean, it's not like the soundest movie I'm keeping -6
- 1:13:44like, you know, it's got enough there to be enjoyable, but it's
- 1:13:47definitely the weakest of the truth Mr. Dare movies that we've
- 1:13:50seen, I think other than that other.
- 1:13:52That we've covered, yeah. In the show I just I think I
- 1:13:57would cut down on some of the plot lines, make it a little
- 1:14:00neater. Yeah, I mean, I would just like,
- 1:14:03just cut out the drama stuff, like, you know, like have more
- 1:14:06fun with the premise. I feel like they just kind of
- 1:14:09wasted it with what they were doing.
- 1:14:10They're like making it about the like the relationship drama
- 1:14:14bullshit. It's just like, yeah, this could
- 1:14:17have been like, like it could have been something on TV, you
- 1:14:21know, like, it could have been like an after school special
- 1:14:23from the sounds of it. But yeah, I don't know.
- 1:14:28Talia is pretty sleepy during this, and she's always truthful,
- 1:14:33and she's a daredevil. Oh, yeah.
- 1:14:35So this movie didn't scare her at all.
- 1:14:37She was like, I don't lie and I'm not afraid of anything.
- 1:14:40Was there to be afraid of? What this game?
- 1:14:42It's like try and get my tongue. It's massive.
- 1:14:45The doctors have been in there, they haven't taken the time.
- 1:14:47Yep, that's right. Took part of my job but not my
- 1:14:49tongue. Get that one.
- 1:14:52So I think Taya would probably give this a four because she
- 1:14:55snored, Yeah. OK, Zoe's ultimate warrior.
- 1:15:02I think she would pick Marky because if Zoe were to make a
- 1:15:10drink, it wouldn't like she wouldn't care about the liquid.
- 1:15:13She'd be like, throw in all the solids that I can eat, like mint
- 1:15:16leaves in the glass, you know? That's how she would enjoy her
- 1:15:19mint drink. Instead of actually drinking it,
- 1:15:22she would like to eat it instead.
- 1:15:23OK, on a scale of hoot to holler, who do you think
- 1:15:29Cordelia thought about? This is there like a middle
- 1:15:32ground between a hooler. I guess there's now huler
- 1:15:38that's. What people call Hulu that they
- 1:15:41don't. You got on that Hulu.
- 1:15:42Yeah. Hulu.
- 1:15:43Yeah, I think she is. She's a Hulu on this one right
- 1:15:49here. Yeah.
- 1:15:50Like. She was just really didn't
- 1:15:53understand our clipboards as we were trying to do notes and she
- 1:15:55was like, I want like, I wanna lay where that is.
- 1:15:58She was really upset with yours. She's like, move this.
- 1:16:02I wanna be right there. What is?
- 1:16:03This she's like I belong here and not whatever this is.
- 1:16:07She was. So mad.
- 1:16:08Like I'm Cat. You think Cat is beneath wood?
- 1:16:14Yeah, she's. She's at the point where she
- 1:16:16thinks she rules the entire house.
- 1:16:18Yeah, that's right. So Huler.
- 1:16:21Huler. All right, who'd you relate to?
- 1:16:24Is it too sad if I say I related to Marky because of the watching
- 1:16:27her watching the videos of her dad?
- 1:16:29It's a little sad, but I'll allow it.
- 1:16:32I'm going to relate to Olivia because whenever she was walking
- 1:16:36out of the hospital, she's like, well, that's another $1000 in
- 1:16:39credit card debt right there. And that has been our life with
- 1:16:42Talia. God, we opened the second Care
- 1:16:46Credit account. Yeah, we had to because of
- 1:16:49bullshit that happened. Somebody got pneumonia.
- 1:16:54She's better now. She's already full fully through
- 1:16:57her treatment medication. So yeah, don't worry about it.
- 1:17:01She's good. But we are in debt because,
- 1:17:06yeah. So that's, that's our life.
- 1:17:09But I, I really, it's so hard that I'm always like, yeah, Yep.
- 1:17:12I'm honestly happy for her that it's only $1000.
- 1:17:15Right. I know, but that was like 10
- 1:17:17years ago. That's true.
- 1:17:18Yeah. Oh, God, I know.
- 1:17:20Right. What?
- 1:17:22Would good Vin Diesel do? No.
- 1:17:24God damn it, Travis, you did it to me.
- 1:17:26What would Dom? What would Dom do, Jesse?
- 1:17:28My God, you were embarrassing. Broken me.
- 1:17:31I could never, Well I think I think Dom would have just like
- 1:17:38ran away to Brazil like he does in like fast fives.
- 1:17:44Like fuck him, leave in LA. I think he would have done
- 1:17:47exactly what they did when they were saving Peel.
- 1:17:50Hope. Like, that's just family coming
- 1:17:52together. Yeah, I think so too.
- 1:17:53Yeah. I mean, like, I think he he can
- 1:17:57do any dare and he can tell any truth.
- 1:17:59So, like, he's just playing the game forever.
- 1:18:02He has nothing to hide and he has nothing to fear.
- 1:18:05All right, This is Dom in a nutshell.
- 1:18:07Nothing. I.
- 1:18:08Had nothing to fear. What is our your tagline?
- 1:18:12Yeah, no tongue fat Sharpie. It's not truth or dare or lie.
- 1:18:18It's truth or dare or die. Yeah, inject the Chad Radwell.
- 1:18:24Yeah, OK. I like that.
- 1:18:26Gotta inject the Chad Radwell whenever you can obviously.
- 1:18:29Obviously. All right, OK, I've got 1
- 1:18:32review. OK, And even though like I said,
- 1:18:37we love to refer you to this as the bad truth or dare, I did
- 1:18:40know that we mostly are positive about it.
- 1:18:42So I got a more negative review. This is a one out of 10 on IMDb.
- 1:18:47Ignore all the people telling you this film isn't that bad or
- 1:18:50it just got hit for no reason. Truth or Dare has basically
- 1:18:53nothing going for it. Plot, direction, editing,
- 1:18:55soundtrack, script, all terrible.
- 1:18:57I will say some of the actors did an OK job despite the trash
- 1:18:59dialogue they were working with, but it certainly wasn't
- 1:19:02noteworthy. I don't.
- 1:19:03I can't even credit it's relatively short runtime because
- 1:19:06the pacing was completely off, especially the rushed ending.
- 1:19:09Normally I'd advise watching films to form your own opinion,
- 1:19:11but seriously, don't waste your time on this.
- 1:19:13OK, I didn't think the basement was too bad.
- 1:19:16Like I understand what you were saying before about like certain
- 1:19:18personal drama stuff kind of drags it down a bit.
- 1:19:21But you know, like I think like with the introduction of the
- 1:19:25truth or dare stuff and it being like consistent throughout the
- 1:19:28entire movie, there's always something that keeps coming up
- 1:19:30to keep it a little bit interesting.
- 1:19:32Yeah. So you know, like and you even
- 1:19:35said the same thing about how the actors did really good with
- 1:19:40some of the material they were given cuz.
- 1:19:42Yeah. Some of the dialogue is clunky.
- 1:19:44But especially Marky, I feel like Marky got some of the most
- 1:19:46like, yeah, this is not how a real person talks.
- 1:19:49And she made it believable. She did pretty well, yeah.
- 1:19:52Yeah. I mean, it's a pretty well acted
- 1:19:53movie. Yeah.
- 1:19:54It's interesting. Like you know it has enough to
- 1:19:57keep you invested in it. I think part of the problem too
- 1:20:01though, like on top of it feeling a very high school drama
- 1:20:03is they've got people from high school drama, isn't it?
- 1:20:07That's true, yeah. Like.
- 1:20:08Lucy Hale and Pretty Little Liars and Tyler Posey is in the
- 1:20:11new Teen Wolf show. Which one's Tyler Posey?
- 1:20:14Lucas. Lucas Yeah, OK, man, he looks
- 1:20:17like he belongs in like, the Twilight Wolf Pack.
- 1:20:20He could be a shirtless bubby. He could be, yeah.
- 1:20:24And if you wanna be a shirtless bubby?
- 1:20:25Just kidding. We.
- 1:20:26Still have. We still have user reviews to
- 1:20:29listen to but. It.
- 1:20:30Was gonna be like a really fun segue into.
- 1:20:33I like the Patreon. I thought that we were there.
- 1:20:36I thought we were done. OK, well, so here's The funny
- 1:20:41thing. We don't have any.
- 1:20:43We. Did remember to put out the call
- 1:20:44though. We did, and you know, we did
- 1:20:47have somebody who was trying to watch it and they ended up
- 1:20:52accidentally watching the wrong one.
- 1:20:54Which one did they watch? It was Michael E Howard and I
- 1:20:57asked if they ended up watching the sci-fi one and yeah, he says
- 1:21:01that he watched the sci-fi 1. So yeah.
- 1:21:03What do you think about the sci-fi one?
- 1:21:04Did you say he? Didn't say no, but his response
- 1:21:08is how are there so many? Because people like us keep
- 1:21:13watching them. Yeah, it's true.
- 1:21:15I mean, the movie premise is so simple and easy.
- 1:21:18Like it's like, you know, like like I said before, it writes
- 1:21:22itself so it's easy to pump them out.
- 1:21:24But it is a problem. And like, especially with this
- 1:21:28one being one year separated from the other one, I can
- 1:21:32understand how people would make that mistake.
- 1:21:34Absolutely. Yeah.
- 1:21:35It's and the story beats are so similar.
- 1:21:39Like you might actually get something out of watching this
- 1:21:42one, having watched that other movie and be like, I think I saw
- 1:21:44that part. Yeah, there are definitely parts
- 1:21:46where I get my wires crossed between.
- 1:21:49Them like Jesse, we're talking like some of the similarities is
- 1:21:51like the doctor characters. We have two people that are want
- 1:21:54to be doctors. We've got the gas station.
- 1:21:57Scene The robbery from the. Gunpoint thing.
- 1:21:59Two best friends who are split apart over a guy.
- 1:22:02Yeah, we have the going and finding the person that was in
- 1:22:06the original game to try and figure out how to get out of the
- 1:22:08game. And yeah, like it's very, very
- 1:22:12similar. Like it's basically the same
- 1:22:16plot and everything, just two different attempts at it.
- 1:22:18All right? But yeah.
- 1:22:21And then everybody else just hadn't seen them.
- 1:22:24So. OK.
- 1:22:25Yeah. So watch it if you want to, you
- 1:22:28know, like, it's not bad. It's entertaining.
- 1:22:31Or, you know, just listen to us talk about it and make your own
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- 1:22:34Yeah. If you want to listen to us talk
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- 1:22:39because we're going to talk about Final Destination Three,
- 1:22:41Yeah. And right now you can rent that
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- 1:22:56on my. They all left the HBO well.
- 1:23:00Yep, we've got the DVD where you can choose your own ending.
- 1:23:03So yeah, we'll talk. About that some next week.
- 1:23:06Yeah, yeah, that's fun. I like that.
- 1:23:07So yeah, I look forward to that. I'm looking forward to it.
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- 1:24:19You're not to be this weekend. Yeah.
- 1:24:20That's on. That's my pick.
- 1:24:21Jessie's pick. Yeah.
- 1:24:22Beware. All right?
- 1:24:23Until then, bye. I don't even know what that
- 1:24:46sound was. That was a big sound for a
- 1:24:52little cat. It sound like she knocked
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