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- 0:00Coming up today on Mini Tech Scroll, Google overhauls the
- 0:03search bar after 25 years, Facebook is coming for Reddit
- 0:06and the AI slot company that raised millions of dollars.
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- 1:06OK? The first story for today is
- 1:07that we need to talk about how Google search is having a
- 1:10complete overhaul. So this news actually broke last
- 1:14week, but it was after I had prepared and recorded the
- 1:16podcast, so I thought I would save it until this week so I
- 1:19could also include some of the reactions to it.
- 1:21So some of the biggest changes are coming to the Google search
- 1:25bar since 2001. At Google IO, the annual
- 1:29developer conference, it was announced that Google is leaning
- 1:32further into AI, which is honestly not really a surprise.
- 1:36But we will essentially be saying goodbye to searching
- 1:40through the blue links and websites that best match a
- 1:43search query when we search on Google, which is obviously what
- 1:46we are all used to by this point.
- 1:47So there will be 3 main changes. The 1st is that it will
- 1:52essentially normalize searching through AI mode.
- 1:55This comes off the back of Google launching AI mode last
- 1:58year in March, which has since quote surpassed 1 billion
- 2:02monthly users with queries more than doubling every quarter
- 2:05since launch, according to Google's blog.
- 2:07This has been a major win for Google because after Open AI
- 2:11released ChatGPT in 2022, there were so many concerns that AI
- 2:16startups would disrupt Google's dominance in search, and clearly
- 2:19it hasn't. In saying that Google is taking
- 2:22some cues from AI chat bots by announcing the intelligence
- 2:26search box, Which which is designed to be more quote UN
- 2:29quote intuitive and make it easier to flow into a
- 2:32conversational back and forth with AI mode when you are
- 2:36searching. And I will say that these
- 2:38changes haven't necessarily been smooth sailing so far.
- 2:42Earlier this week, I'm sure you guys may have seen some people
- 2:44talking about it online. There was a glitch within
- 2:48Google's AI search that caused the engine to misinterpret the
- 2:51word disregard as a system command.
- 2:54So it essentially went on to display the message, quote UN
- 2:58quote, understood, message disregarded instead of showing
- 3:01the dictionary definition. So things are not going so
- 3:05smoothly as of right now. The next change is how AI will
- 3:09be involved in search. So Google also announced that we
- 3:13will be entering the era of AI agents.
- 3:16I know we kind of talk about AI agents here and there, but as a
- 3:20reminder, an AI agent is a system or program that will
- 3:24autonomously perform tasks instead of a user.
- 3:27So that will involve both reasoning and actioning.
- 3:30With that, Google is introducing Gemini Spark, which is an always
- 3:34on 24/7 personal AI agent. It will operate in the
- 3:39background, aiming to keep users up to date with anything they
- 3:42deem as relevant. As the blog post reads quote,
- 3:45our agent will intelligent urgently look across everything
- 3:48on the web like blogs, news sites, and social posts, plus
- 3:51our freshest data. It will send you an intelligent
- 3:54synthesized update with the ability to take action.
- 3:57So if you're apartment hunting, you can brain dump all of the
- 3:59exact requirements you're looking for and your agent will
- 4:02continuously scan for you, notifying you when listings meet
- 4:05your needs. Another example that Google
- 4:08offered in the blog, because I do feel like it is easier to
- 4:10conceptualize this through examples, is about how agents
- 4:14will operate when it comes to booking.
- 4:16So the blog post said that you can basically ask Google to call
- 4:20a business on your behalf. And honestly, that sounds
- 4:23insane. But as a Gen.
- 4:26Z who hates phone calls, I kind of rate that.
- 4:29But also I acknowledge that this is just a form of like
- 4:31optimizing what may just be like important human interaction and
- 4:35it's probably unnecessary. These are obviously massive
- 4:38changes though, because This Is Us kind of starting to see
- 4:41Google become increasingly personalized.
- 4:44Like obviously social media has been moving in this direction
- 4:47for a while now, but when you think about Google search, it
- 4:50has remained relatively consistent.
- 4:53No matter how you use the Internet, your interests, or
- 4:55like personal preferences, when a user searches something up,
- 4:59there will be consistent and validated information that pops
- 5:03up no matter the political standpoint.
- 5:05This, as far as I understand will change to some degree with
- 5:09these updates because it will be relying on personalized
- 5:12information and connecting your apps like Gmail, Google Photos,
- 5:17and Calendar to the whole search process.
- 5:20Obviously objective information will remain the same, but it is
- 5:23something to consider when you are searching something that is
- 5:25more subjective. The last change worth noting is
- 5:28how Google is introducing agentic coding.
- 5:32So Google explains this as kind of mini apps for users where
- 5:36basically agents will have the capability to create tools for
- 5:39users for repeated tasks or searches.
- 5:43This is another example that the blog gives quote often you
- 5:45aren't asking 1 of questions. You have an ongoing task you
- 5:49find yourself searching for over and over, like planning a
- 5:51wedding or managing a home move. Search can go a step further,
- 5:55building new custom dashboards or trackers that you can
- 5:57continue to come back to and make progress on, and this will
- 6:01reportedly be rolling out over the next few months.
- 6:04It's safe to say that these changes will have widespread
- 6:06impact, especially when you consider how Google pretty much
- 6:09dominates search and information gathering online.
- 6:13From the perspective of digital media slash publishes, this is
- 6:17obviously ominous because it really is the final nail in the
- 6:20coffin as far as traffic from Google goes.
- 6:23This has obviously been an issue for some time now, with Google
- 6:28directing less and less traffic to websites because of Gemini
- 6:31and other AI models, and this has been a problem for
- 6:34businesses that relied on programmatic ads and things like
- 6:38that. In response to this, I have seen
- 6:40reporting from Google's perspective contending that
- 6:43there will still be traffic between search and websites.
- 6:46They claim that the difference will be quality over quantity.
- 6:49So instead of getting millions of visitors on a website, they
- 6:53will get less traffic, but more genuinely interested consumers.
- 6:57And to me, I think that shows how Google views the Internet at
- 7:01this stage where it's all about taking action, making purchases
- 7:05as opposed to information gathering and seeking.
- 7:08And I will say the decreased emphasis on kind of information
- 7:12seeking independently where it's being allocated to AI agents
- 7:16does worry me a little bit for the future of media literacy and
- 7:19dissentment online. I was looking into the responses
- 7:23towards these changes and it does seem like many social media
- 7:26users aren't not happy, which honestly is not really a
- 7:29surprise. On Reddit, I've seen a whole
- 7:30bunch of users deciding to switch to other browsers to try
- 7:35and get away from Google with DuckDuckGo, which is an example
- 7:38I've discussed before, being one that is one of the most
- 7:41frequently mentioned. And like I said, this isn't
- 7:44really surprising because there has been growing, of course,
- 7:46among tech circles online recently, particularly how among
- 7:50youth consumers, they are less and less interested in AI.
- 7:55And this is really picked up ever since the former Google CEO
- 7:58Eric Schmidt was recently booed when he gave a university
- 8:02commencement speech, which I feel like has been hard to
- 8:04escape online recently. In a similar vein, I've also
- 8:08recently seen the announcement of the AI Resist list, which is
- 8:12billed as quote, a new project that documents examples of
- 8:16resistance to the AI empires around the world, which I think
- 8:20is just another example of this sentiment bubbling.
- 8:23I'm definitely curious to hear your thoughts because I do
- 8:25understand how some of these updates can streamline slash
- 8:29optimize the search and information gathering experience
- 8:33for the user. I'm just not sure that that's
- 8:35always a good thing. Like when you're doing research,
- 8:38sometimes falling down like a research hole is so important to
- 8:42figuring out what you want to learn and talk about.
- 8:45And these updates are not necessarily facilitated to kind
- 8:48of let that happen. And I thought how Ryan Broderick
- 8:52put it in a recent edition of garbage day kind of epitomized
- 8:56this point perfectly. Quote for the hobbyists and
- 8:58civil organizations and activists and education
- 9:01resources and the myriad of eccentric Internet weirdos out
- 9:04that traffic, even unmonitized, makes it all feel worth it.
- 9:08If Google replaces search with AI, that entire virtuous circle
- 9:12breaks down. Meta, open AI and Anthropic are
- 9:15convinced that chat interface of the new passport to the web the
- 9:18way a Gmail address, a Facebook account or an Apple ID was in
- 9:22the 20 tens. Some many of these companies
- 9:25will likely not survive the inevitable market contraction
- 9:27around AI, but we have enough proof now to definitively say
- 9:31that they are willing to cannibalize their own companies
- 9:33and their role in maintaining core features of the Internet to
- 9:36chase their dreams of AI domination.
- 9:39Let's move on to the next story. Meta is reportedly testing a
- 9:43Reddit competitor called Forum. This is a little a bit of a
- 9:46shorter story, but I thought it was interesting.
- 9:49So Meta has recently soft launched, I guess a new app
- 9:53called Forum designed specifically for Facebook
- 9:56Groups, which is arguably Facebook's only useful function
- 10:00left, I would say on the platform.
- 10:02There hasn't been an official announcement about Forum, but it
- 10:05was seemingly discovered by Matt Navarra, a well known social
- 10:10media consultant. For now, it's only available as
- 10:13an iPhone app on the US App Store.
- 10:15So it's not something I could access here in Australia, but
- 10:18everything I've read about it is from people that have.
- 10:20According to reporting from Stevie Bunnifield for The Verge,
- 10:23he recounted his experience on the app as he writes Quote after
- 10:27logging in with my Facebook account, forum automatically
- 10:30pulled in the groups I was a part of on Facebook and
- 10:32populated my feed with posts from those groups along with
- 10:35suggestions from groups I'm not a part of.
- 10:37Similar to my Reddit feed, although without Reddit
- 10:40pseudonymity. Even though it's not exactly the
- 10:42same, it is being positioned as a Reddit like platform.
- 10:46As Matt Navarro wrote in a tweet quote, the app heavily pushes
- 10:50questions, recommendations, and real answers from real people,
- 10:54which is literally how Reddit builds itself.
- 10:56And obviously these real answers from real people are coming from
- 11:00Facebook groups, like I mentioned.
- 11:02Interestingly, though, this isn't the first time Meta has
- 11:06launched an app focusing on Facebook groups.
- 11:08Back in 2014, the company rolled out a dedicated Groups app that
- 11:13kind of aimed to make it easier for users to share content
- 11:17across groups, but it ultimately ended up closing three years
- 11:20later. But this is clearly an updated
- 11:22version that's attempting to align without current digital
- 11:25landscape, where there is of course, an AI component to forum
- 11:30which summarizes interests and conversations across Facebook
- 11:33groups. And it's also a way to help
- 11:36admins manage these communities. So I do think it's a little bit
- 11:39similar to how Reddit's AI functions when you search
- 11:42something up and results come up from different subreddits.
- 11:45Well, there obviously hasn't been an official launch.
- 11:49A Meta spokesperson did kind of confirm forums launch to both
- 11:53Matt Navara and The Verge with a statement reading quote.
- 11:56We test lots of new products publicly to see what people find
- 11:59interesting and useful to their experiences across our app.
- 12:03So very vague, not really saying much at all.
- 12:06The reason why I wanted to cover this story though is I think the
- 12:09interesting question here is why Meta would choose to launch a
- 12:13Reddit competitor. Clearly there is value in
- 12:16community based platforms. Community is the buzzword of the
- 12:19moment. And Facebook groups already have
- 12:22hundreds of millions of active users and existing communities
- 12:25that Facebook and Meta can capitalize on.
- 12:28So I guess Forum is an attempt to stream like that experience
- 12:31to some degree. The main Facebook feed has also
- 12:34literally become dominated by AI slop and ads.
- 12:37So I guess Forum may attempt to strip that back at first at
- 12:41least, which is a way to try and encourage Facebook users to
- 12:45engage with the platform and the communities that they care
- 12:47about. But if we look at recent
- 12:49reporting by The Wall Street Journal, Mark Zuckerberg said
- 12:52that Meta is actually looking to create more apps, pointing to
- 12:56the efficacy AI brings to workflow that allows them to do
- 13:00this. As the article reads, quote,
- 13:02historically we've built four or five big apps.
- 13:05We want to build a lot more apps.
- 13:06So there's a bunch of stuff that we're trying to figure out, and
- 13:09some of this we need to figure out over time, Zuckerberg said,
- 13:12referring to Chris Cox, Meta's chief product officer.
- 13:16Zuckerberg said. So like Chris and I have been
- 13:19talking about, all right, well, can we build 50 new apps?
- 13:22Like, yeah, probably, but we should probably start by doing a
- 13:24few before we just like ramp up trying to do 50 all at once.
- 13:28I don't really see the benefit of launching so many new apps,
- 13:33especially when there are kind of increasing conversations
- 13:36around whether apps will even be a thing of the future.
- 13:39We discussed this a couple weeks ago, I think, when we were
- 13:42talking about the rumours that Open AI is planning to release a
- 13:45phone in a couple of years that won't include apps.
- 13:49On top of that, we all know how difficult it is to compete with
- 13:52an existing social media platform.
- 13:55We saw that much with the launch of Threads and Twitter and how
- 13:59many people just continue to use X even though it is a hellscape.
- 14:02I guess it could also just be an attempt for Meta to kind of
- 14:06encourage people to use their products and flood the market,
- 14:09but I would be curious to hear what you guys think about this
- 14:11and whether you would use the platform.
- 14:13My last story for today is a little bit of a niche one, but I
- 14:16wanted to talk about Pulsia, the quote AI that runs your company
- 14:20while you sleep. The company was founded by a man
- 14:22named Ben, who is an engineer who was clearly very passionate
- 14:26about AI. So I went to go look at the
- 14:28Pulsia website and it urges users to quote UN quote start a
- 14:33company tonight with Pulsia being the quote first employee.
- 14:37And it essentially claims that Pulsia can action everything
- 14:41related to the business from running ads to closing deals to
- 14:45posting social media posts. And if you haven't noticed, by
- 14:48the way, Pulsia is AI slot backwards.
- 14:51So that was definitely a choice for a name of a company.
- 14:56As far as the background and intentions behind Pulsia, the
- 15:00About page, which is authored by Ben, reads quote.
- 15:03I wanted to build companies that could run themselves.
- 15:06It was almost impossible because the dream was so big.
- 15:09When I finally broke away from the idea of building products
- 15:12manually and used AI, I thought, well, now I may have a little
- 15:16bit of a chance. On the website as well, you can
- 15:20see what Pulsia is allegedly doing in real time for the
- 15:25companies that it manages. So this may involve finishing
- 15:28tasks, writing emails, and posting on socials.
- 15:32And I did look into some of the companies it claims to operate.
- 15:36And I will say I couldn't find much of an online presence,
- 15:39which kind of made me question this whole thing.
- 15:41But more on that in a minute. So Pulsia is actually making the
- 15:44rounds right now on LinkedIn and X for a couple of reasons.
- 15:49First, it is because the company recently raised $30 million at a
- 15:53$250 million valuation. And this was the announcement
- 15:58that was posted by Ben on X quote, Pulcia just raised $30
- 16:01million at a $250 million valuation, approaching a 10
- 16:05million annual run rate. One founder plus AI0 employees.
- 16:10Pulcia runs companies autonomously.
- 16:13It also ran its own fundraising. I just showed up for the
- 16:16signatures and at the time of researching this story, that
- 16:20announcement had over 5.6 million views on X.
- 16:23And according to Ben, the money came from a slew of investors,
- 16:27including Angel investors as well as venture capital firms.
- 16:30But polls here is also going viral beyond just the financials
- 16:35of the company. The second thing, and perhaps
- 16:37more interesting, is because people are questioning its
- 16:40legitimacy. If you look on Reddit, LinkedIn,
- 16:43and X, so many people are questioning the validity of the
- 16:45company and whether it's a scam or not and if it's claiming to
- 16:48do what it says it is doing. On the R/AI agent subreddit,
- 16:52this has become a lively topic of conversation.
- 16:55So a lot of this speculation comes from the fact that the
- 16:58company's name is literally AI Slop backwards, which honestly
- 17:02makes the whole company feel SUS.
- 17:04As one Reddit user wrote quote. It seems to be doing a good job
- 17:08of trolling the butts though. Lots of thoughtful responses
- 17:11from accounts I can now block, which is honestly real.
- 17:14That's how I go through the Internet these days.
- 17:16Aside from that, other users are noting the shift in how the
- 17:20industry is responding to the story and talking about it and
- 17:23how it marks just how much tech has changed.
- 17:28As one user wrote on Reddit quote, it's funny that the
- 17:30industry moved from increased productivity to never hire again
- 17:34in less than a year just to get customer attention.
- 17:37I think this is an interesting part of the conversation because
- 17:40a couple years ago Sam Altman told Alexis Ohanian, who was the
- 17:44Co founder of Reddit, that he feels like a one person billion
- 17:48dollar company is on the horizon thanks to AI.
- 17:51Obviously, Pulsia is not that company, but it is an example of
- 17:55one that is kind of getting close.
- 17:56And I feel like we can see it getting close as well with the
- 18:00rise of agentic AI with Google, as I've already spoken about at
- 18:03length today with this prediction.
- 18:05I do think it's worth thinking about what AI quote, UN quote,
- 18:08employees actually offer in terms of their value, like not
- 18:12just on a company level, but also for society at large.
- 18:16Because if this is the direction that the world is moving in,
- 18:19there are going to be many pain points economically in that
- 18:21process. And we've actually already seen
- 18:23this on a social media level with Malt Book, the social media
- 18:28platform for AI agents. TechCrunch actually covered this
- 18:32phenomenon a while ago, so I thought I would read a quote
- 18:35from the article. Quote.
- 18:37With the right type of company and the right execution, it's
- 18:40difficult to see how AI won't nudge dollar figures north as
- 18:43the headcount head South. But in all likelihood, it will
- 18:46just come down to whether there is a desire for one person to
- 18:49build a loan with enough entrepreneurial knowledge to
- 18:52embed a strong, defensible business model that someone else
- 18:55can't just replicate at the drop of a hat.
- 18:57But whether the society will be ready to handle this is an
- 19:00entirely different question. I'm definitely curious to hear
- 19:03what you guys think about Pulsia and this whole conversation at
- 19:06large. So let me know.
- 19:08OK, Well, that brings us to the end of Mini Tech Scroll for
- 19:11today. I really hope you guys enjoyed.
- 19:13Lauren will speak to you guys tomorrow for a regular mini
- 19:16scroll episode. And thanks for listening.
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