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Western Decline and America’s moment of truth! · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  In this political Coliseum, we slay the rising beast with the fateful sword of truth that transcends hypocrisy and censorship.
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  It's time to unleash yourself from the tyrants of media propaganda on the America Out Loud Talk Radio Network.
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  This is Unleashed the Political News Out.
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  This is Unleash the Political News Hour on the America Out Loud Talk Radio Network.
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  I'm Chris Cordani, your host for this edition of the show.
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  You can find me on X at Chris Cordani1.
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  That's at Chris Cordani 1.
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  You can find us on America Outload.news and wherever you get your podcast, plus on X at Outloud News.
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  Chris Cordani here, as I said before, behind the mic.
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  A little bit later on, I'm going to bring in some of the smartest people I know.
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  I work with a uh think tank called Project Sentinel.
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  I'm their media person, their media fellow, if you will.
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  I've been working with them since uh the latter days of their previous incarnation, the London Center for Policy Research, which bore the name of the great Dr.
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  Herb London.
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  Many of you might know that he is the man behind and author of the Abraham Accords, which have been going very well for a long time until a lot of things got screwed up under the Biden era, and Iran was trying to circumvent the whole effort to bring peace to the Middle East.
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  I'm bringing in a panel from Project Sentinel, and we're going to do this more often.
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  I'm going to have some of my friends, of course, from Swiss America join us when it comes to major economic issues, and the friends from Project Sentinel to join us when it comes to a major international and national security issues.
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  So we will talk to them in just a bit.
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  And speaking of which, uh Democrats and Republicans, yes, Eric Swalwell went down.
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  Democrats and Republicans are scrambling right now because a major investigation is uh befalling on several representatives.
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  I believe 28 investigations going on.
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  I'm not a my party good your party bad kind of guy, and I never will be, because I do know there are elements within both parties that are absolutely horrid.
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  Many of them, and the Democrats, we see the evil there every day.
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  They're not even hiding behind it.
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  On the Republican side, why hasn't the uh SAVE Act been passed already?
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  Well, it's because there are just a few that want to stick around and just use voter ID and use certain other issues, saving money, uh uh taxes, everything else like that.
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  They want to use those issues as uh campaign, let's just say campaign promises that they're never going to keep when they keep running for office.
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  Again, well, that brings up the subject of term limits.
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  That's something we should be talking about during a future episode.
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  But there are 28 investigations of sex scandals.
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  It's especially in the wake of the uh Eric Swalwell resignation.
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  I want to get to Swalwell in just a bit.
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  But is he looking at 14 Democrats and 12 Republicans?
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  That's virtually right down the middle.
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  And two of these people have two investigations, it looks like.
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  Even some dead ones.
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  Al C.
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  Hastings, uh, Democrat from Florida, and I believe uh Wayne Hayes from Ohio, Democrat.
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  So there are two dead guys being investigated.
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  As a matter of fact, funny thing is, uh, Hastings died and was succeeded by Sheila Sherfilus McCormick.
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  I don't know how to pronounce that middle name.
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  She was recently hit with 25 ethics violations and stealing five million smackaroonies in federal COVID-19 relief funds.
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  Where do we get the worst of the worst people to run for office?
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  I'm gonna throw a couple theories out there.
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  I'm sure there are a lot of good intention people who come in and say, Wow, I want to do something, and they get pushed aside.
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  They get they get taken in in separate rooms by their leadership from the respective parties and say, no, no, no.
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  This is about a win for the party, not about representing your constituents.
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  There are a few holdouts out there, like there are the fettermans of the world and the massies of the world who will stop and say, no, no, no, this is about the constituents.
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  This is about the country as a whole.
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  It's not about party.
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  But those are fewer and farther between.
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  A lot of people, even with the best of intentions, come in, they start enjoying the perks, the free dinners.
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  They enjoy the the fun of the spotlight in Washington.
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  Others wind up hating it.
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  Some enjoy the let's just say not so savory perks in Washington.
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  That's where these uh sex scandals are coming from.
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  And when you're doing the whole sex scandal thing, and you're trying to uh cheat on your wife while you're in the public eye.
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  Swallow, let's not do it with a with a spy from China, and let's not do that by drugging young girls or drugging women up.
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  Bill Cosby style.
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  That's horrible.
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  It's one thing, uh, and again, it's not great, but it's one thing when it's consensual.
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  It's another thing when you're when you're when you're roofy-collating roofy colladain.
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  Some of these girls.
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  I can even see some Congress members just getting frustrated and leaving, like the Marjorie Taylor Greens of the world.
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  They're coming in thinking, I'm gonna fix these things.
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  You're elected me to make something happen.
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  And by gum, I'm gonna come through for my constituents.
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  What happens?
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  Nothing.
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  Because she realizes that even if she stands up to her own party, they'll they'll just knock her down.
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  They'll make her look foolish.
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  You get sick and tired of it.
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  If you find out you're in an ineffectual place, then you go out and try to do something effective.
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  And she's doing that, or she's trying.
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  Then you have the squad, the squad types.
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  They're pretty much man-child, man children and woman children.
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  They have the mentalities of children, the policies of children, your typical socialist uh college dropout type policies, or let's say fake degree type policies, or college uh great inflation degree type uh mentality and policies.
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  That's that's where they come out.
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  They're probably the least intelligent members and worst first order thinkers within Congress.
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  That's your Alexandria Ocasio Cortez's of the world, your Corey Bushes of the world, your Jamal Fire Alarm Bowmans of the World.
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  Your Rashida Talib.
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  Yeah, I know she's a lawyer.
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  A lot of these people get out with great inflation, and she's she comes off as an absolute screechy moron.
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  One of those people you want to kick off the bus for cackling all day.
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  Worse worse than Kamala Harris's cackling.
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  I'll even say some of them came in believing in their own BS.
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  Leaving in their own BS.
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  And they come out realizing, yes, even their own party's not gonna let them move forward.
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  And they come out realizing, yes, even their own party's not going to let them move forward.
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  Their socialist ideas aren't going to work.
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  Their socialist ideas aren't going to work.
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  They kind of realize that.
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  They kind of realize that.
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  But to keep things going, they're just going to mouth off.
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  But to keep things going, they're just gonna mouth off.
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  Look at Corey Booker.
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  Look at Corey Booker.
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  Cory Booker actually was a pretty good mayor of Newark.
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  Corey Booker actually was a pretty good mayor of of uh Newark.
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  Definitely better than Sharpie Sharp, who was the corrupt piece of dung they had beforehand.
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  Definitely better than Sharpie Sharp, who was the corrupt piece of dung they had beforehand.
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  Booker deserves.
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  Booker deserves what he gets for helping clean up new work.
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  Of course, it went back to heck anyway.
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  That's another story for another day.
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  But he does realize he's not going to get to be president.
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  He's not going to make it anywhere, but he does love the spotlight.
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  He turned into one of those guys who is I came in for a purpose, but he had this spotlight's great.
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  His behavior is not as criminal as uh his uh former senior senator from New Jersey.
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  And he finally didn't get off.
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  But these people still, and they know they will, they'll get away with it.
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  They'll keep being elected when they're in safe areas and safe states.
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  So you have your your uh Maxine Waters of the World.
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  You know she doesn't live in her in her district.
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  She doesn't care about her district, but she's always there and she's always safe.
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  No one's gonna challenge that woman.
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  They're afraid of her.
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  It's one of those uh glass of water districts as Nancy Pelosi said.
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  Alexandria Ocasio Cortez is a Democrat.
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  They'd vote for any Democrat who won a primary.
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  What she did was she supplanted one of the most powerful Democrats in the country, not because of her policies, no, because she was cute and she knocked on doors.
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  And people were saying, well, she knocked on the door, I got to meet her.
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  Nope.
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  This other guy never calls me back.
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  He might be third in command, but he's not calling me back.
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  I don't care about third in command.
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  We'll put our own person in there, somebody I could talk to.
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  More Congress members should learn that.
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  And I'm not a big fan of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, but I have seen long-standing legislators, both local and statewide.
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  Even again, as in Congress.
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  Lose to somebody who does the legwork and knocks on doors, regardless of policy.
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  Perhaps.
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  Perhaps we need people who do that and carry it over into Congress.
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  But unlike what we want to see, these people just go in there and they start realizing it's all a game.
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  It's all about getting elected again, and it's all about their retirement plans and their health plans.
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  That's what it is.
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  We need to stop that.
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  Term limits are the way to go.
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  Look at what you get in office now.
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  You have Chuck Schumer.
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  He's a he's a prime example and a prime poster boy for term limits.
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  What was it?
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  Feinstein that went down in the middle of a uh in the middle of her term.
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  She got really sick, and she was almost she was pushing 90.
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  Schumer's in his 80s.
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  I'm not even saying 80-year-olds shouldn't be holding office.
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  But Chuck Schumer never had principles.
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  He was the immigration standard the easiest way to track him.
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  He yammers on about how we should have closed borders and make sure that's a big deal, and we don't want people coming in here unvetted.
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  That was a big deal.
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  And even Barack Obama said this was the mid-2000s back in the back in the day.
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  But as the pendulum swung towards you're not going to get elected unless you support what the deep state tells you to support, he swings along that way.
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  The man was uh the man was a proponent of all the uh COVID regulations until the very day.
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  Joe Biden, uh, let's just say the election turned out to be given to Joe Biden after some of the well, let's just say well-documented fortifying of such, which again they admitted.
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  It was in its in time magazine.
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  The man's out there in the middle of the uh there are imposed COVID restrictions, drinking champagne out of other people of the out of a bottle other people have drunken champagne out of, telling you that we BS'd you the whole time.
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  But I want to keep my people in office.
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  I want to make sure I get my perks, and I want to make sure next time comes around I get elected.
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  That's the mentality there.
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  But if you know you're only there for maybe uh as a senator two terms and as a Congress member, maybe four to five.
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  Then you know you got to leave your mark and go and return to the uh private sector.
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  Well, if you leave your mark, you do you go down in history as a is a as a great statesman.
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  I will venture the vast majority of people that go into office, and there are some exceptions, trust me, there are, at this point, especially when it comes to U.S.
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  Congress, get in, they're told what the deal is, and then they start going along with the rest of the game and figuring out what their 401ks are gonna look like, enjoying their premium health plans, and finding new ways just to say and do anything they want to get elected.
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  I'm Chris Cordani.
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  As you know, you can find me on Xit at Chris Cordani One.
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  That's at Chris Cordani 1.
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  I'm starting something new on the program, and uh I teased this a little bit beforehand.
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  I'm part of uh a group called a think tank called Project Sentinel, which was born from the London Center for Policy Research, named after the great Dr.
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  Herb London, the man behind the Abraham Accords.
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  Is the group has the think tank has a great history, and I'm bringing every week gentlemen and ladies from the think tank from Project Sentinel to join us to have discussions about what's going on in the world.
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  With me today is the uh are the leaders of the group, basically.
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  Tim Wilson, a former uh British intelligence officer, Lieutenant Colonel, retired.
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  Thank you, Tim.
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  I'm glad to be here, Chris.
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  I have uh distinguished fellow Dr.
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  Stephen Hatfil, who is uh been a guest on a lot of the shows I've produced, especially with Tony Schaefer and uh and Dr.
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  Corsi.
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  Thank you for being here.
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  It's an honor to have you, Dr.
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  Hatville.
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  Yes, always a pleasure.
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  And of course, uh a great Navy captain retired Pete O'Brien, who is a distinguished fellow and one of the great leaders of Project Sentinel, also with us.
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  And yes, you can hear him on pretty much a lot of things, like the Ascending Debrief with Tony Schaefer.
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  Uh Pete, thanks for being with us.
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  It's good to be here.
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  We have a lot to talk about, but I want to give our listeners a little background on Project Sentinel.
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  So, Tim, could you start us off on that?
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  Yeah, certainly.
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  Um, 20 years ago, uh Herb London, more than 20 years ago, Herb London, who was a successful businessman in New York City, um, and a philosopher, uh, and had been involved in politics, set up the London Center for Polity Policy Research, and he brought together a group of like-minded individuals um and did a lot of think tank uh brainstorming to come up with policy ideas, which he then had the connections and brought in other people who had the connections to put in front of uh various people in Congress.
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  And because of that, um Herb was quite frankly brilliant.
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  And he uh ran the center himself for just over 20 years that I'm aware of, and um it had some significant influence.
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  And as Chris mentioned earlier, Herb was certainly the architect behind the Abram Accords.
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  Um, he loved Israel, but he also loved the Middle East, and he very much wanted peace to break out there and a lot of the fighting to stop.
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  And he came up with various ways to do it, basically around the idea of self-interest.
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  Well, Herb, unfortunately died six years ago, and we miss him very much uh wrong, eight years ago, and we miss him very, very much.
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  Um, and uh but the group of us that were, if you like the core of the London policy, London Center for Policy Research, wanted to carry on.
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  And Tony Shaffer and Pete O'Brien in particular led the effort and came up with the idea of the Sentinel Project.
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  Um, the Sentinel project very quickly, the the focus is very much on uh constitutional rights.
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  And the um mission of this of the center is to counter government encroachment of constitutional rights.
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  And through advocacy, publicity, and offering of thoughtful alternative solutions.
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  Umstead of more problems, basically with an emphasis on the principles of first do no harm and beware the law of unintended consequences.
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  The other part of it is foreign policy and dealing with the various threats that there are around the world and domestically as well.
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  Pete, would you like to say something, please?
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  Well, uh, I think the the thing I really would only add before we uh get in way of the, I don't want to get in way of Chris's radio show here is that uh what we really want to stress uh and Project Sentinel is uh if you will getting back to fundamentals of uh the American movement, that the the con the independence, the the declaration of independence that led to the to the uh to the constitution there's some amazing thought.
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  It's not at all dated, although some people accuse it is it is as as current as it ever was, and what we're trying to do is bring a little bit of attention to uh to all of our rights to to not just the first amendment or the second amendment, but uh one of my my favorites, the fourth amendment, the protection of our uh essentially our right to our own information, um, our own data.
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  And so uh what Project Sentinel tries to do is simply uh keep that dialogue going.
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  Keep the discussion going about the the American experiment and and about our basic fundamental rights.
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  our basic fundamental rights and we do need to keep information out there especially information that the uh mainstream media and government tries to suppress Dr.
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  And we do need to keep information out there, especially information that the uh mainstream media and government tries to suppress.
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  Dr.
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  Hatfield, that's where you came in, especially.
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  Hatfield that's where you came in especially absolutely you're the guy who told everybody about the real harmful effects of mRNA vaccines especially the untested ones while the government tried to force everybody to use the and I know they couldn't do it with a written law but they used manipulation to force Americans to take the COVID vaccine as many as possible Dr.
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  Uh you're the guy who told everybody about the real harmful effects of mRNA vaccines, especially the untested ones, while the government tried to force everybody to use the and and I know they couldn't do it with a written law, but they used manipulation to force Americans to take.
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  Hadfield you were i you were banned from all sorts of social media you were banned i there were there were videos that I had of you on on programs that were taken off of YouTube.
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  Luckily that doesn't happen now but uh you fought very hard to uh keep this inform get get this information out there and there's a it was a struggle yeah yeah it was and you know to emphasize what Peter said some of the activities under the Biden administration concerning mass vaccination were later found to be unconstitutional.
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  Absolutely and it they just drug it out and continued it on um and we're seeing unfortunately we're seeing the tremendous tremendous harm that this has caused which may be extended into our next generation for the mothers that were vaccinated during pregnancy let's actually push up one of the subjects we wanted to talk about I wanted to get into Iran first but one of the things we're wanted to discuss is the corruption of the UN and that falls square right on or at least we saw a lot of the UN's corruption and all these NGO organizations corruption uh when it came to the COVID vaccine and the idea to find ways to uh use the UN as sort of a governing faction uh president biden one of the major activities you were mentioning Dr.
• 22:58
  Hadville about president what president biden did during his during his uh regime if you will he tried he he signed our sovereignty over to the World Health Organization joining what 156 other countries I believe uh so when the UN decides to declare or the WHO decides to declare a medical emergency and they could do that with almost anything then we would have had to fall under their uh leadership jurisdiction if you will their dictatorship well not necessarily but the Center for disease control uh was so messed up that they would not do anything unless the UN had done it first they they were strictly followers um extreme incompetence which is not being made better by the recent selection of the new CDC director who is just as much a part of uh this outrage and robbing Americans from medical freedom um as as the Biden administration was horrendous can I jump in and just add to that I've been studying the UN and corruption there for more than 30 years they are one of the most corrupt organizations and if anybody thinks they're motivated that most of the members are motivated by anything but money you're wrong um they are uh one of the classics of what Steven is talking about there is that the the head of the world health organization is a doctor but not a doctor of medicine am I right Steve you're right that's that's perfect that's fantastic you think about it you look at the UN you look at the uh the world health organization you look uh you look at uh what's that uh unRA uh that the other the the relief organization oh and of course another uh international organization not really related to the UN uh we can count FIFA and uh and the International Olympic committee these are very uh longstanding corrupt organizations where do they where do the powers that be find the worst people and why do they allow them to get to these positions I think we've I think that we've stopped setting the standard within our own population they're perfectly good people sitting here that could probably take over some of this stuff right and do a wonderful job yeah but but unfortunately um when big money is involved big thieves get involved um you know it's just like throwing chum into the water the sharks all circle um I'm very cynical about Washington DC because a huge amount of money flows through there I'm very cynical about the UN because a huge amount of money flows through there and you try looking at the finances of the UN and I'll give you one classic example of that everybody knows about the UNICEF cat uh hand in your foreign change on airlines and in hotels put them into bags into little envelopes and see where they go millions and millions of dollars every year they don't account for it not at all not in any way shape or form you cannot find how much they collect you cannot find where it goes those sort of things are used as private slush funds for the management of the agencies.
• 26:32
  And they made us kids collect uh some of that change in boxes remember that we were kids with the little and and you know that uh did uh I'm I'm gonna dogpile here on the uh uh on what Tim just said here um there is no real uh rigorous uh accounting standard uh with the UN there's no one auditing the books and no one's gonna get punished if they find a mistake and meanwhile the system is set up um let it sort of like a country club uh when folks at the UN travel around the world they're not traveling economy class okay they're they're not they're not staying in a four-star hotel rather than a five-star hotel they're staying in the top end five-star hotels they're traveling first class they're renting big sedans they're driving night nice trucks i've been involved in in some real third world unfortunately beat up countries and bumped into the UN a number of times and uh invariably you find that the UN folks have moved into uh the largest nicest building in the in the bombard city they've got the the engineers have come in and and rehabbed the building before they've even had one friggin' building of the of the town that's been beat up and and these guys are living the life of Riley uh while the folks who are doing the hard work and the local citizens are still you know l living in the ash heap and and it never bothers the UN they they they move from they move from one rat hole to another making sure they're living in luxury while they're doing it and then they fly back to Geneva or New York and uh report to their buddies just how well things are going.
• 28:00
  Ash heap.
• 28:00
  And it never bothers the UN.
• 28:03
  They they move from they move from one rat hole to another, making sure they're living in luxury while they're doing it.
• 28:10
  And then they fly back to Geneva or New York and report to their buddies just how well things are going.
• 28:17
  And I'm again, I'm going to carry on.
• 28:17
  And I've again I'm gonna carry on who pays for all of that there you go at the end of the day um it's it's fascinating the US does not still properly track
• 28:21
  Who pays for all of that?
• 28:22
  There you go.
• 28:23
  At the end of the day, um, it's it's fascinating.
• 28:26
  The US does not still properly track how much it contributes, but it's thought to be in the order of about 19 billion dollars a year.
• 28:38
  And that's a 2024 figures.
• 28:41
  Um when I was looking at things, well, all I'll say is this the core contributions should be somewhere between two and four billion dollars a year.
• 28:51
  Voluntary contributions make up the rest, but lots of that is done by voting, and when they vote in the General Assembly, anything to do with finance, it's not uncommon for those votes to be 192 to one, with the US being the one objecting and the 192 saying, oh no, we'll get the US to pay.
• 29:14
  Yeah.
• 29:15
  That's uh that's never good either.
• 29:16
  Luckily, we're on the Security Council, which is starting to mean less and less over the last many years anyway.
• 29:21
  But we'll get into that.
• 29:22
  Um here's something.
• 29:25
  Uh you said was it 19 billion dollars goes in from the US to the UN.
• 29:30
  That's basically taxpayer money.
• 29:31
  This is something when you hear the when you hear the left say defund this or that, where's the outcry?
• 29:37
  Wait, why can't we just defund the uh the UN?
• 29:40
  Why can't we just kick them off the property that was uh it's in New York City, send them somewhere where they could uh maybe do some good, like uh go to send them to Eritrea or something like that.
• 29:50
  I would personally be happy for us to pay to move them out of New York and into somewhere like and I wouldn't be a third world place, they could go to somewhere like Dubai, where they'd be very central um with major airport facilities and major building facilities where they could be very comfortable.
• 30:11
  Might as well send them to Davos then, that's where they'd be very comfortable, right?
• 30:15
  Um would who would pay for it in Davos?
• 30:18
  But I suspect you could get a lot of people to pay for them to be in in somewhere where they complain many of the international representatives in New York City complain about having to fly to America.
• 30:31
  Okay, let's solve that.
• 30:32
  Let's make it central to Asia.
• 30:35
  No, I think they're all afraid of getting mugged now.
• 30:37
  It's uh Bandani runs the place.
• 30:40
  It should be pointed out that the idea behind uh the UN, which was the idea behind the League of Nations, was in part, and only in part, a good idea that there be a place that there be a forum for the nations of the world to regularly come together and try and talk before things all went to hell in a handbasket.
• 31:03
  And there is obviously some merit to that.
• 31:07
  The problem is uh that as with the League of Nations, League of Nations, of course, had no teeth, and then they they created the UN, and what we found was if you try to give the UN teeth, it will slide in the wrong direction.
• 31:20
  And so uh we've we wind up with this with this conundrum because deep down in our hearts we all think there should be some place where we all can talk, where we can meet before uh uh we have some kind of crisis.
• 31:34
  In fact, that was a good idea in 1945.
• 31:37
  I think one of the things that we need to recognize is the technology has changed, and now we all can talk.
• 31:44
  And maybe we just don't need the UN anymore.
• 31:47
  Save it for an international Zoom meeting.
• 31:50
  What do you think?
• 31:50
  Well, yeah, I mean it because essentially that's what the General Assembly is, and then and the UN Security Council is not much more than that.
• 31:58
  I have to say as well that having the UN in New York City proposes a threat that many people don't even think about.
• 32:05
  And that threat is that there are approximately just under 5,000 accredited diplomats there from nations all around the world.
• 32:12
  Not all of those nations are friendly.
• 32:15
  Um you've got 5,000 diplomats, some of whom are spies actively working against the US.
• 32:22
  The uh FBI has a large um New York City mission.
• 32:31
  Um, but there are only 1,100 agents in New York City, and let's put it like this.
• 32:37
  There's the U the Chinese mission to the UN alone is somewhere to a hundred between 150 and 200 strong.
• 32:45
  How many agents does it take to follow what they're up to?
• 32:49
  That's fair enough.
• 32:50
  And then think about this.
• 32:51
  The uh New York City police force is being uh is is less effective because Mamdanny just uh unhired 5,000 new cops uh as uh upon taking office.
• 33:02
  He is trying to minimize their presence across the city, and that again probably only exasperates the issue where it comes to possible uh potential spies working their way throughout the uh New York City and probably filtering to other cities from there.
• 33:17
  I'd also like to ask Steve to comment on um on the WHO and the the way the CDC work and the potential of the WHO for finding out um how let's put it like this biological work warfare research.
• 33:33
  Um the CDC uh wrong, the WHO would strike me as a very good avenue for getting people trying to find out things they shouldn't know.
• 33:44
  I'm there, Steve been a major effort under the direction of President Trump with respect to scientists conducting gain of function research.
• 33:58
  Um the program is a complete shambles, what's been put together.
• 34:04
  Uh some of the people behind it consider themselves biological treaty experts when they don't know anything, their internal medicine doctors from the Federation of American Scientists.
• 34:23
  If you want to do something like that, it is a world threat, establish an international world laboratory for this where if you want to perform that research, like the major telescopes, like the Hubble Space Telescope, you book time to come to the to the Hubble telescope and do your research program that you've submitted in ahead of time, and it's been vetted and approved.
• 34:53
  Have an international BSL4 laboratory to conduct that type of research because we do learn some useful things from that.
• 35:00
  Because we do learn some useful things from that.
• 35:03
  And sometimes some new drug opportunities for treatment.
• 35:03
  And sometimes some new drug opportunities for treatment.
• 35:07
  Right.
• 35:07
  Right.
• 35:08
  But you do it at that laboratory, or you don't do it at all.
• 35:08
  But you do it at that laboratory, or you don't do it at all.
• 35:11
  And you make the penalties for doing it outside of the laboratory confinement penalties.
• 35:11
  And you make the penalties for doing it outside of the laboratory uh um confinement penalties prison.
• 35:20
  Prison.
• 35:21
  Right.
• 35:21
  Right.
• 35:23
  That's the only way you're gonna control that.
• 35:23
  That's the only way you're gonna control that.
• 35:25
  It makes it makes a lot of sense.
• 35:25
  It makes it makes a lot of sense, and I want to take a break right now.
• 35:26
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• 35:28
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• 35:28
  I do have to do that.
• 35:29
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• 35:29
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• 35:32
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  Gentlemen, uh every day it's something different as far as the Strait of Hormuz in the Middle East is concerned.
• 40:15
  Oil prices are bouncing up and down and all around.
• 40:18
  It's exciting for us as news people.
• 40:22
  It makes people with TDS nuts.
• 40:24
  That's always fun to watch, too.
• 40:27
  But Donald Trump seems to be if if you're really looking at the big picture, you peel away the surface, you get rid of the first order and the second order, you look deeper, the foreign policy is dictated.
• 40:38
  Venezuela now they're pretty much under our control.
• 40:43
  China does China no longer controls the Panama Canal.
• 40:47
  We have put inroads into Greenland, which means we now run that uh, or at least have a majority of control over that uh northern passage.
• 40:54
  Trade, maritime trade looks good for us.
• 40:56
  Oh, also Copia Port E.
• 40:58
  We have an American we have American friendly interest uh who now run the deep water port that's going to be developed in Chile.
• 41:05
  China wanted it, they can't have it.
• 41:07
  We're taking the sparse sphere of influence back and expanding it around the world.
• 41:13
  With this uh Strait of Hormuz being closed and open and closed and open, all the hectic things that are going on around there.
• 41:23
  Yes, the oil prices go up and affects us when we're driving, but let's look at the long run.
• 41:28
  The strait really affects those who need oil in Europe and in China, and unfortunately in Japan as well.
• 41:35
  We become a net exporter, you see.
• 41:38
  And things start working out quite well for us instead of the uh, let's say new world order plan to seed control or to seed power to China that we saw during the Barack Obama and uh uh Joe Biden administrations.
• 41:51
  Gentlemen, what are your thoughts on the Trump foreign policy and the way the media is going nuts about it?
• 41:57
  But really looking at the entire picture and what could happen in the next year.
• 42:00
  Year.
• 42:03
  I'm always willing to jump in.
• 42:03
  I'm always willing to jump in.
• 42:05
  Um I think that Trump has has played a very significantly uh intelligent game.
• 42:05
  Um, I think that Trump has has played a very significantly uh intelligent game.
• 42:12
  Um, I think he's taken important areas and one at a time taken steps.
• 42:12
  Um, I think he's taken important areas and one at a time taken steps on the great game, the strata the strategic look at what goes on.
• 42:20
  On the great game, the strata the strategic look at what goes on.
• 42:26
  China has a huge problem and the
• 42:26
  China has a huge problem, and that problem is energy.
• 42:32
  And their answer to it is coal-fired power stations and oil imported from places like Venezuela and the Gulf, um, and in vast quantity.
• 42:45
  Now they have deep reserves, but they're burning through them because they are incredibly oil-dependent, shipped out of the Middle East, the Gulf.
• 42:54
  Um, they they get quite a lot from Russia as well, but and they have a uh some small resources of their own.
• 43:02
  But they are incredibly oil-dependent, and um their vulnerabilities have been exposed.
• 43:10
  And there's one other um area where we're also starting to encroach, and that's the Malacca Straits.
• 43:16
  Uh, and I'll ask Pete to talk about that in a second.
• 43:18
  But I just want to say I really believe that if you look at the hurt that Trump is putting on China's import of cheap oil, um, and they China loved it when it was sanctioned oil in Iran because they can buy it cheaper from them.
• 43:34
  They loved it when we put sanctions on Venezuela because they can buy it cheaper from them.
• 43:39
  And I'm not worried about Japan because we will supply Japan, and they know that.
• 43:44
  Pete, any thoughts?
• 43:47
  Yeah, I mean, and it I agree with all of you all all what you've said, and and I would uh uh pile on that that uh Trump's uh essentially dusting off the Monroe Doctrine.
• 44:00
  Um struck me as just you know, wonderful, just about time.
• 44:05
  Someone finally did that.
• 44:06
  Um and you go to go back and uh look at China.
• 44:11
  China's a key, a key uh problem set here that that plays in all of these uh decisions.
• 44:17
  China uh, as as you noted, uh 16.4 to 16.5 million barrels of oil used uh per day, and of that about 12.4 million is imported.
• 44:29
  Um and so the idea that that uh uh you know someone's ringing the bell and saying, hey guys, pay attention, you're importing this, and who controls the sea lanes?
• 44:39
  Oh, well, we do.
• 44:40
  Uh and and so um it has to register with China that uh by the way, they're also a net importer of food, that uh without controlling the sea lanes, um they're they are uh essentially at risk.
• 44:58
  And can they control the sea lanes?
• 45:00
  Could they rest to control the sea lanes or not?
• 45:03
  Well, in fact, uh that's a harder nut to crack than it looks.
• 45:08
  Um, because uh there's a gigantic difference between controlling the sea unless and getting all your ships there and simply blocking the sea lanes, which is something that clearly we have a capacity to do.
• 45:19
  Uh I would also add that that uh uh looking at um the events in Iran.
• 45:27
  Uh anybody who has played uh in the Middle East in the last 25 years, the last 30 years has one time or another bumped up against um the various planning cycles against Iran.
• 45:39
  And uh the fact that we started this uh uh expedition into Iran, I think it was February 3rd, is that right?
• 45:47
  Yep.
• 45:47
  Yes.
• 45:48
  Um, you know, that that this has been going on now essentially 10 weeks.
• 45:53
  And um anybody who said that you can do everything you need to do in 10 weeks, um, you can't.
• 46:00
  There's that we have we've done a spectacular job between the the Navy and the Air Force and the Israeli.
• 46:07
  Didn't Trump say two weeks recently?
• 46:09
  And I think all of us know never trust anybody in the federal government who says two weeks and we're done.
• 46:15
  Well, right.
• 46:16
  I mean, you know, it two weeks is enough to get to get uh some major pain uh uh applied to the Iranians, but but to actually go and do all what we're we're talking about here, um this has been an amazing operation.
• 46:31
  And in fact, if you look at what was needed to be done to deny their nuclear power program, to deny their missile uh production capacity, to deny their missile arsenal, break break up their arsenal, and to ensure that they can't really close the strait, and they really can't uh the the goals have basically been achieved.
• 46:50
  Uh and the Navy, the US Navy now has um control of the Strait of Horror moves and the approaches of the strait, and we're blockading uh Iranian ports.
• 46:59
  So the Iranians have been constricted, the Chinese have been given a very clear message, uh, and the United States uh long term has been put in a much more favorable position uh vis the rest of the planet.
• 47:11
  It's been a it's been a spectacular operation.
• 47:14
  Yeah, and and to go further than that, I mean China six months ago there was this huge fuss over rare earths, which China does have pretty much a lock on.
• 47:26
  Well, they need oil more than they need rare earths, and we now hold something that they need much more, and Pete's exactly right as well about food.
• 47:36
  Um, China is part of the BRICS alliance, and Russia is part of that as well.
• 47:40
  So you're looking at oil from that angle, I suppose, and the BRICS alliance with all the nations or and potential nations that jump in, they could at this point possibly in the future control 72% of rare earth resources, although that can change as the US gains influence in South America.
• 47:58
  Dr.
• 47:59
  Heffer, what are your thoughts on what's going on here with this uh whole situation?
• 48:03
  Well, we need some additional sources.
• 48:07
  Australia occupies a strategic location in that part of the world.
• 48:15
  Um they have oil reserves, they're not great.
• 48:21
  But some of the areas, there's there's a base in there that has remained underdeveloped.
• 48:29
  I would think that some facilitation use of advanced technology and additional exploration be undertaken.
• 48:40
  Because that would solve a lot of problems if they could become self-sufficient in their own supply.
• 48:49
  Yep.
• 48:50
  That's fair enough.
• 48:51
  And maybe they could put some of those one foot long spiders to work and uh you know pull some of the barrels and things like that.
• 48:58
  Of course, one of the problems with that, uh Steve, you're exactly right.
• 49:00
  With that, uh, Steve, you're exactly right.
• 49:02
  But one of the problems with that is that the Australia then becomes much more um tempting a target for a regime that has military might and a lot of people.
• 49:02
  But one of the problems with that is that the Australia then becomes much more um tempting a target for a regime that has military might and a lot of people.
• 49:13
  Australia doesn't have a lot of people, it's very thinly populated, except you know, not even on the coasts.
• 49:13
  Australia doesn't have a lot of people, it's very thinly populated, except you know, not even on the coasts.
• 49:20
  A lot of the terrain's unfriendly, though, too, if you think about it for an invader.
• 49:20
  A lot of the terrain's unfriendly though, too, if you think about it for an invader.
• 49:24
  Yeah, and the Israel and the Aussie's a tough people.
• 49:24
  Yeah, and the Israel and the Aussies are tough people, I get that, but their military has also been gutted.
• 49:26
  I get that, but their military has also been gutted.
• 49:30
  Um, and they were recently, you know, circumnavigated by a Chinese squadron uh flotilla, um were basically unable even to track it properly.
• 49:42
  I believe we're supposed to give them some nuclear submarines, aren't we?
• 49:47
  That's right.
• 49:48
  And I and I and I and I would agree with with Doc here.
• 49:52
  Um, that uh uh between Indonesia and Australia, uh the two of them, there's there is more than enough um energy and and in fact uh rare earth, a whole bunch of minerals, uh the largest, I think it's the largest iron mine in the world.
• 50:08
  And and Malaysia, let's not forget that and Malaysia, yes, sir, absolutely.
• 50:13
  And on top of that, uh, you know, just the right amount of submarines and uh uh cruise missiles and uh uh the like, it would be very difficult for the Chinese to move south.
• 50:29
  They could, it it can be done, but like the Japanese 80 years ago, that's gonna be a hard nut to crack.
• 50:38
  Uh and uh I agree.
• 50:40
  I'm just saying that the strategic temptation becomes greater if Australian oil becomes available.
• 50:48
  Well, and and this this could happen if you think about it.
• 50:52
  Like China's not gonna make too many brash uh or or rash moves while Donald Trump is president.
• 50:58
  That's it's just not going to happen because they they have no idea what he's going to do to respond.
• 51:02
  But they were any idea.
• 51:04
  Right, but they were able to flex their muscles, and listen, let's not mainly economic, but they were able to flex their muscles around the South China Sea and its so-called sphere of influence when Joe Biden and Barack Obama were presidents.
• 51:17
  They're likely biting their time until the next election, hoping a weaker president, a weaker potential, let's just say China-friendly president, uh communist-friendly president, if you will, takes over.
• 51:30
  The the entire deep state in Washington, DC is abiding their time.
• 51:37
  Until they can get things back to normal.
• 51:40
  And and of course, that entire deep state is China friendly.
• 51:43
  Uh oh, yes, um, yeah, yeah.
• 51:47
  Who went who had the gun behind Tucker Carlson's head when he was talking about ceding power to China?
• 51:52
  It it uh well, you know, there's an interesting piece to this, though.
• 51:55
  There was a study done by I think some folks in Japan a couple of years ago that suggests it wasn't even a couple years, last year, I think, that suggests that in fact the Chinese population collapse, which has been predicted for a couple of years now, in fact, has already taken place, and that the Chinese population is in contraction, and it's and it still has a good deal of way to go before it hits bottom.
• 52:25
  And um that that raises some fascinating uh thoughts in my mind.
• 52:31
  First off, is that they may be uh, you know, on the long, the long descent, uh, you know, the train, the train ride down the mountain.
• 52:40
  Um, but uh uh it also raises the question of assuming obviously that the folks in Beijing know that this is taking place.
• 52:50
  Do they do they decide that it's time to take a risk because they've got nothing to lose?
• 52:56
  Yep.
• 52:58
  Good question.
• 52:58
  The the tyrants playbook is always a concern, and the Torrents playbook is when you're in trouble domestically, throw a war.
• 53:06
  Right.
• 53:08
  Something that's yeah, Dr.
• 53:12
  Dr.
• 53:12
  Heffel.
• 53:13
  Something that's perplexed me is why we have not had a very pronounced effort to make friends with India.
• 53:25
  It's a technologically developed nation.
• 53:29
  They I think they're almost ready to have more people than China has.
• 53:33
  They have more, they've already passed at this point.
• 53:36
  Did they pass it?
• 53:37
  Even even including the official Chinese number, yeah.
• 53:40
  Yeah, uh, their manufacturing.
• 53:44
  Uh old school.
• 53:47
  You take a big huge differential from a truck end that's cracked and broken, and and they fix it.
• 53:53
  They weld it and they fix it back, and it goes back on the road.
• 53:57
  Tremendously resourceful people.
• 53:59
  Well, why are we not making them friends?
• 54:03
  Are we or are we not?
• 54:04
  Um think about this.
• 54:06
  The the H Donald Trump has been very pro-H1B visas, generally with people coming out of uh India, the Central Asia area, but generally they uh very very smart people coming from there.
• 54:19
  Obviously, they'll come to this country and send money back to their economy.
• 54:23
  That's what's going to happen.
• 54:24
  That's why uh a lot of the American taxpayers, the American tech people are a little upset about this.
• 54:28
  We are becoming their friends.
• 54:29
  And then Modi has that Modi is right in the middle here between China and the US as well, because he's part of BRICS.
• 54:35
  They're they're in they're involved in the de dollarization movement, but he knows the value of the friendship with the US and the US money that comes in through the uh tech geniuses that and then the uh and the companies that build uh factories and centers and and and call centers in India as well.
• 54:50
  But they they need us as much as they need China, which is an interesting that makes that makes this a more interesting question, Dr.
• 54:55
  Hatfield.
• 54:56
  Yeah.
• 54:57
  Well, I I would but I I would suggest too um geez, I'm trying to try to drag up who who first wrote this.
• 55:07
  Uh I I think in fact it might have been Mahan, but that that the long-term the long-term sort of geostrategic uh uh solution for China, uh and that they need uh essentially they need more room, they need more terrain, they need more food uh and more natural resources.
• 55:29
  Their real expansion is not north, it's south.
• 55:32
  If you know, no one no one Siberia is just too hard a nut to crack.
• 55:37
  You can draw stuff out of there, but it is a it is a very unpleasant place.
• 55:40
  Snowcome.
• 55:41
  But last time last time they tried to expand south was with Vietnam.
• 55:46
  Right.
• 55:47
  And they had the crap kicked out of them.
• 55:49
  Right, right.
• 55:50
  And and arguably that has been the driving, the driving lesson behind their attempt to modernize their army and air force.
• 55:58
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