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Episode 223: Crusade (SG-1 9.19) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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Okay, this will be a long one. It's a Viler episode. It's
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a Viler episode written and directed by Robert C. Cooper. We're gonna be
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here for four hours. I'm not just a writer, guys, I'm an
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executive producer, a story editor, and a director. I got some good
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I've also got acting credits. Matthew, guess who did the audio commentary for
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it, Buddy, I got some. Get into Gate episode two hundred and
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twenty three. We are talking star get SG one. The Getting a Gate
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team is here, Mitch. That's me speaking Maddie over to you. Hello,
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Daniel, see I'm switching it up. Oh hello, and I should
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we should have done that. You could be one of each and you could
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have swept personalities and Brenda has never been done before, had it really hasn't.
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But when we do it, when we do it for real, Yeah,
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that's all we'll do. Yeah, it's Michello part two. Oh yeah,
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but Cooper wrote it, so it's homophobic too. Okay, look until
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you I haven't even read of the synopsis yet. But until you said that
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a second ago, I did not read the credits when I watched this episode,
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I did not know that he directed it first episode ever he directs first
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of eight. I want to say, oh Jesus, yeah, okay,
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well, let's get into it. You actually read all of his directing credits,
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and I'm ashamed that I like one of them. As the synopsis reads,
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Vala reappears with important news. End of sentence, she learned that the
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or I have steadily been building an army and constructing a fleet of ships and
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planned to stage a massive crusade. Now SG one has left only with the
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uncertainty of their friend's safety and the doom they are soon to face. I
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don't need to tell you this, but I will again Robert t. Keeper,
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written and directed by first of eight episodes. Jeezus. As someone yes
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I've seen this before now I don't remember it, but as someone who's not
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a big fan of Volor that's been well covered on the podcast, this is
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my favorite Valor because she's still Vola. She's still there, sort of having
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a bit of a laugh, taking the piss out of some situations. But
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in this but not No, they haven't, not at the expense of the
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moment where when there was ship to go down, it went down, and
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she reacted accordingly rather than her being there as some kind of ill placed comic
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relief. Yes. The only thing that we didn't like, the only thing
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that she was holding up that we didn't care about was general Angry. Wanted
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to get to he's meeting, and she's like, I'd like some ice cream
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and pancakes please. Yes, yeah, that's fine because no one cares about
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generally angry or he's meeting. So I have a meeting. What you don't
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care about the aura galaxy? You daft prick? Yeah? I think she
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was to meet but when she came, when he came in and he said,
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he's like doctor Jackson and I have got to meet with the Chinese delicate,
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and I bet Daniel wants to see the chin, you know what I
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mean? The first date was wrought with danger and bugs. Pump a spring
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rolling if you know what I mean. Steam a dim similar too, pumpson
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more Hong Kong mattress A long what that itself was a throwback. Brennan said
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that the big wrap up the other Hong Kong Mattress. Yeah, I do
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not remember that. Get a bit of barnsay up here, mate, listen
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to case and for God's sake, is that a lyric stand. Yeah,
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it's like chorus isn't going to hit some hard calm mattress An. Nah,
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yeah, man, Jesus, thank you Barnsie. So um, Joe Melozzi
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just put a little dig in and talks in this episode Bad mutually hates the
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or ships then I'm sure M. Robert Cooper designed as well. You'll never
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unsee it now that I've now that you hear what I'm about to tell you,
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because I can't unsee it now, or I ships just look like a
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bunch of toilet seats bols. Yeah, yeah, yep, just a big
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giant toilet seats lying around in space. Yep. No, I can see
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that. Yep. Suddenly they've been Cooper to put all these scripts in and
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another one for you and for you here we go. I've got I've got
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a little bit of a present for your Brandon. Oh can't wait. This
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is Robert C. Cooper just talking about just being there, just being really
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you know, um, non eag artistical and just being really you know,
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demure about his his directing debut. Let's see what did I do on this
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wrote He's directed? Gaffed? I did some gaffing. Well, no,
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I did see a goal for craft service. Whatso that's true and handed out
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to the crew. Um, yeah, some some first aiding. Um,
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we had some fun. It was it was my first attempt at directing and
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it was it was quite an experience, just so interesting. And try to
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say, oh, I did some first aiding, first assistant directing for himself.
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That's that's directing. If your first assistant directing yourself, you're directing.
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Still. See, it's been a while since I've been on a film set,
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and the I produced my executive producing assistant director is kind of like the
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when I've been on there, the way that they use this particular the first
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and it would be incorrect, I'm sure, but like that person was kind
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of like ushering everyone to get into a place to be basically directed. When
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he said that, I was thinking second unit director, which is, you
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know, the person that might go out there and get all the establishing shots,
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shots of extras, you know, making up the shots in the back
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of the director. That's my first unit or second unit that say, like
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Robert, you can't be a second unit director when you other director that's just
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directing. But that wasn't what he was saying. But to be first sorry,
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yeah, first assistant director to himself. It's funny, like you got
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to be confident to I mean, I know the credits are there, but
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were like, yeah, I wrote it, Um yeah, I edited it.
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I wrote the score, and I did a listen and everyone got yeah,
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it was a shit episode. He's like, well, there's a lot
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of people spread the blame around to it's a team effort. Oh no,
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man, he's got something to do with that. It was funny because I
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started on the show as a story editor, and you know, I'd walk
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down the hall many years ago and really would know who I was, and
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you know, you're around long enough and eventually you just get promoted. That's
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just what happens. And eventually I end up in the corner office. And
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I'm not entirely sure when that transition happened from you know, people really not
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knowing who I was to people being intimidated by me. And so it was
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a little it was a little surprised to me as I started through this process
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a that people were at all even slightly intimidated by the fact that I was
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now going to be directing and on and on the floor, but also that
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you know, I was just a kind of a regular guy. I mean,
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I think people were surprised when I got into it and started talking to
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people about the filmmaking process that I, as an executive producer, kind of
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had an understanding of what they do on a day to day basis. And
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I'm not saying I knew everything. Obviously, it was a learning process for
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me, but I think it helped, you know, both myself and the
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crew to get a little closer together because we came to a sort of a
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more of a mutual understanding of each other's jobs. Can you underneath that whole
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thing in post? Can you just put that song? Sit down, be
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humble? Um? Like, the first thing that I hit my mind listening
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to that was all the complaints we've heard, either from his own commentary or
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you guys telling me about listening to the audio commentary where he criticizes other director's
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commentary, saying, stop telling them stuff they don't want to hear. Talk
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about the show, don't be fun and entertaining. Yet he's there spending That
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was a sample. I'm sure of a lot of minutes where's he's doing audio
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commentary about his director of debut, just talking about the fact that he directed
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it and like, what you do and I it's my first time. It's
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like, good, tell us how you set up that shot. Don't don't
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say this thing was a learning experience. Tell us what was the best learning
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experience? Yes, I get to this forty minutes of the episode left to
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go, but he just wasted two there or if that or if this shot
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was an example of a learning experience, but instead he was like, do
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you know people were intimidated by me? And it was so weird to find
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and ever, literally every member of the crew would listen to that going.
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Has anyone ever, Robert, No one has ever said that I know what
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all of your jobs are. All you minions on the floor, Yeah,
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I know what all of your jobs are. But by doing this, you've
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got an idea of what my job is. And remember seven years ago,
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Yeah, when we're sitting around this table and I said, there's this guy
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called Robert C. Cooper and well, you don't know about that clip is
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stuff like that that's edited down. That's me where I've cut out all the
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arms and ars and pregnant pauses and stuff like that, because otherwise it's just
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unlistenable. No, I was just going to say kind of off air too.
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There was a skit that they did on the Maddie John's radio show,
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which they did as a podcast, and they had buzz Aldron come in and
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they're going to talk to buzz Aldron and it's just like a long winded thing
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of just him talking and then and it was it was basically a skit and
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he's like, don't don't make fun of Buzz and then can he hear us?
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No, I turned you, I turned the mics off. And then
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like buzz is still talking in the background. Should we kind of just keep
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going with the show. Then yeah, just fade him out, and then
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they kind of let's see if Buzz is still on the line that comes back.
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And I really want to do that with Cooper, and this looks like
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a perfect episode to do it. So ye, maybe we'll get all those
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arms and ours and yeah, oh we're here. We got interviewing Robert C.
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Cooper. Robert, thanks for joining us. What's being the best things
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you've done on Star Game? And then that's a perfect startup. Yeah,
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because it's just like I'm executive producer or director, raid, I'm probably the
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best. No, I was just a normal guy. Was like azing and
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even if he were I was taking a piss where he's like claiming to do
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everything and it was all an ego thing. But okay, let's say he
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was taking the piss and he's like, yeah, I wrote and directed it.
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No, I did some first a ding and uh story or story words,
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some things I gaffed. I did some gaffing. And then the other
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bloke there says, oh, and you even need craft services and you handed
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out some food to the crews Oh no, Like yeah, even I would
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never do joking about what he'd be on the set. I won't even pretend.
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I can't even fathom making fun of the idea that I would feed peasants
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like and even and even it's petty, but it's even the way he says
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floor like it makes ye that like when like when I was working in retail,
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it's like you had you know, you had receiving st off at the
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back, and it's like and then you're on the shop floor and it's like
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it's like you know, when you're you're doing a live production, it's like
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there's the stage and there's backstage, like as furse, But the way he
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says it, it's like oh, just down on the floor, down the
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floor with the peasants for normal yea normally a normal guy. And yeah,
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like we spoke about it before, but I just couldn't believe that. Hole.
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That's just the whole opening gauge joke. Like, knowing what we know
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about Cooper being pretty homophobic, like then we've assumed that. Well, I
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mean, he's all signs point to yes. The audio commentary specifically said he
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felt uncomfortable with Jack touching Tilk's face because they were two men. That's a
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direct quote from the audio commentary for Lost City. Yeah it is kind of
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gay, um, but yeah, just that whole thing where it's like where
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like Mitchell turns o Cam turns around, and it's just like, you want
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to tell me something, Jackson, you give me the squirrely app Yeah,
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like Shanks, he was having so much fun. They're just, yeah,
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throwing each shoulder around and smiling and seat of like twiddling with his fingers up
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under his chin. And yeah, yes, of course I started with a
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gauge joke. Yeah, I wasn't really I didn't find that funny. Yeah,
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like like I liked what the actors were doing, but I didn't laugh
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for anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it wasn't funny like
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it was just like it was like it was like you sort of go like
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amusing because at that point you don't know that it's Vila, so you're like,
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oh, yeah, Daniel, why is Daniel acting this way? And
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obviously retroactively, you go, oh, that's funny because it's Vla. Yeah
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right, because you know VLAs and Varla being a very sexual character. Of
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course she's going to enjoy walking through the men's chage room. You know whose
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shaves naked? I don't think gave and shaved naked at home. Well I
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think he was wearing a towel, but well the way he was, she
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was looking. They them, you're looking. It was mpm zzpm zz pms
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were looking. It was like he's as was right there. Oh I thought
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she was. She was more looking at the sausage. Maybe shaves brought him
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to Frank Dembean's Frank Dembanes, did you get the both Frank looks pretty fit
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though cam Ben Browders look. Yeah, definitely like that. I felt like
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I wasn't sure, but there was um a moment there where I thought there
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was a fast Scape reference here when when because violence. She finally tells one
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that she's pregnant, and then Cranton goes, who's the baby. I was
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like, that has to be a Fast Scape reference because I feel like that's
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the exact line in the movie, where's the baby? Who's the baby here?
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And where's the baby? Oh? I don't remember that, but as
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he say who's the daddy, didn't he say who's that? No, you're
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right, he says who's the daddy? But that reminded me of that because
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and then also that you don't know in Fastcape either. Yeah, true,
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Yeah, you're getting That's one for that use. I can give you some
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fast need to go through and find some I mean, the thing is,
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it's Cam and Vala, both the Fast get people cool. So was conta
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last? That doesn't matter? Oh no, because it's you, because it's
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you. Can I just say on that, Um, sorry, that what
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we were just saying about, like the flip and switch and why it's funny
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or if it's funny and stuff. I did actually like because I found myself
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during the I was gonna say interrogation scene, but it was just like her
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retelling scene. I'm like, occasionally we would go back and we would see
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the TV, you know, so we could hear both voices later over the
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top of one. That was great. That was a really good way to
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do it because then obviously you're having to watch both actors perfectly copy whoever did
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it first. The other one like that was all very chocolate ice cream on
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Daniel's nose too. Yeah, yeah, just for reasons. But I'm sittinking,
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Oh, I wonder why they don't use like Daniel Moore, And I'm
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like, oh, I guess if you you know, you want to have
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Claudia Black, you know you back that you want to probably use are the
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line where and what was I don't know whether it was the I'm pregnant or
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I'm having a baby or then I found out that I was whatever that was
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where they just used Michael Shanks. There was no double screen situation. So
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you're like Claudia Black, Claudia Black va la va la va la va la
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valla cut to the male actor going I'm pregnant, and it just was again
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not It wasn't some kind of weird pre trans joke or anything like that.
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It was just like, it's not even because the expectations. It was just
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ridiculous because you're you're watching for all intensive purpose. By that sage, you're
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so comfortable with the idea that Vala as a character and what she looks like
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was in that room. Cut to Landry or Mitchell or whoever come back,
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and Daniel Jackson says, I'm pregnant, and then it cut back to their
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confusion, and then it's Claudia Black going, yeah, obviously I can be
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pregnant. Why wouldn't that be? And only then at that point I'm like,
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oh, of course, that's weird because they're looking at Daniel. Like
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when I was looking at Daniel as a viewer, I know that Daniel's not
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really there, or rather she'sn't really there, that it's Daniel, but I
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didn't quite see it the way they were seeing it because they've only ever seen
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Daniel and horribly explaining it until that. That's a great moment, but also
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kind of not accentuated because Claudia Black is pregnant in real life. That's why
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the pregnant was written into the show. She was pregnant in real life,
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so unlike Carter, where they just shipped her off for six episodes. Yeah,
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they went, okay, we're going to build this into the show.
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Vala was, you know, immaculately pregnated or whatever. Yeah, she still
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did give, just not just not to get the baby. Yeah, yeah
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she got that. She got that specially got um. No one knows what
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it's biscuits um. But yeah, So it's like up until that point that
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hadn't really shot her belly, so you couldn't really tell that she was pregnant
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until they kind of yet quote unquoe hung on lantern. Yeah wow, okay,
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yeah that's cool. Yeah, so a little a little cup on that,
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well, I'd say quite a large cup on. Roberts Cooper's behalf with
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the shitouse riding is if you do the math. Now, the only time
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we've ever been to the Ouri Galaxy to those little towns has been Robert Cooper
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episodes because he wrote Avalon and Avalon part two and whenever that third one was
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where you know, Vala got burnt at the stake and the kind of stuff
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that was all Cooper stuff. And then this is the first time back in
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in the Ara Galaxy, and Cooper wrote and directed this episode. Now in
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Avalon, when Jackson and Vala are inside Harrod and Salis, he says,
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because there's the ancient writing on the wall that says this is the home of
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Harrod and Salice. Blah blah, you know the whole thing. He says.
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Okay, well, people in the Aura galaxy must speak ancient and the
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stones are translating for us. Well, Viola's physical body was sent to the
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our galaxy. Vala doesn't know ancient and she's just chatting in English with everybody.
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Cooper, what's that again? I wrote and directed and did everything about
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this episode. If it's perfect, it's because of me. Oh can you
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imagine churns out Vala gives birth to a bug. Yeah, that was weird.
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We sound like God. Yeah, that he's an idiot. The landry
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scene of annoyed me so much. Yeah, general angry, general angry.
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I need to talk to the German and Chinese consulate whatever it's like, who
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gives a fuck about them? Just say if you need to go, go
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mate. Yeah, because Daniel's been taken over by an alien entity. You.
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Yeah, remember when you had to go at Valor in like episode three
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or four, when she was still connected to Daniel and you had to take
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her to that meeting and she sat on that guy's lap at a miniskirt and
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said he had a lappinky. Yeah, so you don't want Vala to go
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in Daniel's body to this meeting. And so I thought, I honestly thought,
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because the way we've always used Valor, I thought, that is for
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sure what's going to happen. The reason why Landry now has spent three different
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scenes saying, Hey, I need Daniel to come with me. Say let's
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hurry this up and tell your story. I'm like, oh my god,
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we're going to get to a point where Vala is pleaded and instructed and begged.
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Please act like Daniel, even if you don't say anything, act like
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Daniel. And she's not going to help herself, and she's going to make
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some weird sex joke to the Russian colonel or whatever. That's where we're going.
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And we didn't. But I feel like any other time that we've ever
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used Valor, that's how we would have used her in this story. Yeah,
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so I'm glad I didn't do that. Well, the thing to me
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was why the payoff for him telling her to hurry out was just to jump
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ahead anyway, I'm pregnant, and they're like, whoa jump so far ahead
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and you wanted me to go ahead, and I'm like, that was it?
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And now he's fine with hearing the rest. Yeah, like, oh
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there might be a sleazy sex Storian And now I don't know, maybe I
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don't know if it was addressed in Avalon. But the whole reason Vala connected
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with Daniel is because it's like, oh, though he was the last one
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to use a stone, so that even though, but wasn't it Jack stone?
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Like he was Jack and ummer Joe. It was Jack and Joe's So
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was there a line about how between citizen Joe and Avalon they wiped the stones?
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And I is that correct? Maybe King far ahead? Otherwise? Yeah,
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otherwise theoretically I could have connected with Jack or Joe or Joe. Yeah,
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back cutting hair. Maybe he's got a job at Atlantis from last week
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he cut Michael's hair. They use the stones, wouldn't that'd be great if
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he was just the SGC butler. And that's what's happening. It's canting now,
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guys. I'm sorry Joe and his family he's left, his family's wife
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left him. He's like, I'm going to go work at the SGC and
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just now, but they told him that they told the wife remember at the
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end, but I mean, yeah, he was he got to taste the
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single life. He's getting paid off. Now he's going to be on the
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Air Force payroll, so the Mays will put him to work. He's got
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a pizza planet, has a planet. He's like, I've been I've been
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there in my dreams. I just feel like I want to go there physically.
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Um. So he spoke about General Angry and his whole thing with the
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Russians and the Chinese and stuff like that. This was set up back in
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Scourge with um bugs No, yeah, the check from Karate Kid and all
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that kind of stuff. And so now we get the payoff to that,
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knowing that the Russians and China have been kind of working together because if you
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remember back from whatever episode it was, the Russians own the Stargate and we're
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renting it off them. Yeah, we blew it up, we blew up
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ours, and they had the second one that they found at the bottom of
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the ocean after Nemesis and the replicators and all that kind of stuff. So
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we've been renting it off the remember Daniel had the whole thing was like,
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just come with it. You know when they had to rescue talk, wasn't
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it when he was stuck inside the gate? We need to d HD come
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with if you want. And then eventually we got the stargate as well.
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So now we'll obviously we find out at the end of the episode we basically
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we finally bought it for the cost of a three or four um. But
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this is a little bit audio I've been saving since scourged since the audio commentary.
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That's cheap, isn't it. I mean, how many billions of dollars
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to the three or four's costs? Well, and they probably sent five hundred
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billion to Ukraine. You're really salty about that? May mean we yeah,
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we're paying for it a bit interest rates. Well yeah, yeah, I
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get it. Yeah, like Australia has five hundred billion dollars the trillion other
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note from the Simpsons. Yeah, finally cash was it? Was it one
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for not to spoil anything? But it was like one for Russia? But
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China gets one too, So do we have to promise them both one?
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Or was it to get China to back out? That was just so Daniel
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didn't have to pay. This is from audio commentary from the Scourge of a
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wasted opportunity of what that whole storyline could have actually turned into. And again,
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maybe it would have been the show didn't sort of finish up next season
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if Cooper didn't write this, maybe this little conversation with shadows a bit what's
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what's upcome? What will basically happen in Crusade? You know? In that
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basically she's offering him, she's basically asking Daniel, you know what if the
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Chinese government was were the ones running the Stargate program, you know, would
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you, you know, would you still be a part of it? Is
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responsible? Yeah, if you guys are you know, if your aim as
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exploration, you know, you know, when your end goal is to sort
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of better mankind in general, of course I would be a part of it.
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And she goes, Okay, you know, I may hold you to
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that, and we kind of leave it at that, and then it's not
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Ni Crusade that we learned that the Russians have essentially lent us a gate the
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ranting us again, and they're going to take it back, and they've closed
25:27
the back room deal to have you know, give the Chinese the Stargate.
25:32
You know, it's sort of like, you know, Monday Night football,
25:33
moving from you know, from what you know from ABC to ESPN, you
25:37
know, and but also ideal to find out that it's you know, essentially
25:40
the Russia was playing the Chinese against the Americans in order to get their hands
25:44
on a new warship. But one of the story ideas that I've pitched out
25:48
that I mean, we haven't really discussed and it may never come to fruition,
25:52
is a possibility that unbeknownst to us, the Russians got the best of
25:56
both worlds and using the Core left the space the battle cruiser that would they
26:00
end up getting between the between the time they got it and Crusade, they
26:06
essentially set up the Chinese in an off world base with the gates. Essentially
26:11
there's a sort of an isolated Chinese base under the Chinese fire me that maybe
26:18
we'll run across, you know, sometime in the near future, so watch
26:22
for that. I mean, I would have loved that. I mean,
26:26
we kind of did it with the NID back in like season two or three
26:30
when they had that offsite team that Jack pretended to join for a little while.
26:36
But I'm like that would have been cool, and I like a road
26:38
groups one thing, and you know we're dealing with that and we have our
26:41
issues with that, but I wonder whether like a different nation having I mean
26:48
again that I listened to that, and I added to the list of things
26:52
that we've seen along the way in this rewatch going that could be fodder for
26:59
a new season or a new series that picks up in Canada ten years after
27:03
or whatever. The idea that, yeah, Russia, China have planets out
27:08
there that they've set up bases and they've colonized their running missions or whatever and
27:15
research and finally some non white people doing some colonize I mean right like,
27:19
and that we've never known about it because the galaxy is huge, and that
27:25
we come across them and it's them. Now we've done it better, not
27:29
just the NID, because they're representing you know, whether it be politicians or
27:32
rogue government agents or whatever, saying we know we could be doing a better
27:36
job than the SEC. Now we've got Russia, we've got China, we've
27:37
got whoever else going. Now we could do this better than America and what
27:42
that looks like, and further just proving no matter how far we've come technically
27:48
advanced or whatever, that humanity is still so inferior to all these other races
27:53
that you know, we meet the Asgard. How many nations are there amongst
27:57
the Asgard. Yeah, Like we meet a couple of planets, one that
28:02
you know, basically blew themselves up a couple of weeks ago where there's two
28:06
nations and the focal point of those two episodes and line a Jonas's planet,
28:12
right, Like, yeah, the in fighting in those planets, that's the
28:15
focus on those stories to this episode. Yeah, right, yeah, and
28:18
that those planets have two nations or two whatever that fight each other and it's
28:23
like, if only they could be better than that, that's their only issue
28:26
in this entire planet. Yet, when we focus on in world shit like
28:30
this on the in the SGC or America has got to do dealings with Russia,
28:36
got to do dealings with China. We've got a whole committee that's represented
28:38
all of Britain and a bunch of other different nations that have got to be
28:44
okay with what we're doing. The idea that we could that they could still
28:48
not trust each other. They've gotten a ship so that we got to keep
28:51
the stargate, but they're using that ship to allow another country that helped them
28:53
get their ship set up different bases. We promise we won't ever interact with
28:57
one another. We're just going to be doing our own things. Well,
29:00
the Americans think they're the only ones out there sort of given freedom to the
29:03
galaxy. What does that look like in ten years time where we show that,
29:07
hey, we're still not progressed advanced, we haven't evolved enough to the
29:14
point where we can act as a single species, that we're still in fighting
29:18
because we know better than the other people. Like that's that would be an
29:22
amazing thing to pick up on in ten years time, like postseason ten of
29:26
SG one. Yeah, I mean, even though that's the stuff that you
29:30
said, some of it has been cut out or can only be implied or
29:33
whatever, but they could probably still if they were going to make a new
29:36
episode next year, they could pick up on a lot of that. And
29:38
just because we didn't see or hear a lot of it, there's still enough
29:41
there to go and the building blocks are there that we could believe that all
29:45
that shit did actually happen on screen. So there's nothing stopping Russia from just
29:51
stealing a stargate from a different planet either and using it whenever they want what
29:56
on Earth or they could in theory use it Earth. Well they did,
30:00
remember, like and there was that problem where with Watergate, Yeah, but
30:03
you just couldn't die. Yeah, they had the same they had disconnected or
30:07
buried or whatever, so it didn't become the prominent one or so. But
30:11
I think that's what they're in. What Joe was inferring there in the in
30:15
that commentary is that Russia just you know, did an Atlantis expedition with a
30:19
bunch of Chinese people, dumped him on a planet where there's a stargate.
30:23
Yeah, that's their alpha site. They can't gate back to Earth, but
30:29
they can gate to anywhere in the Milky Way galaxy and do all their own
30:32
exploring. Yeah, and then yeah, Russia could be doing the same thing,
30:34
and they have the benefit of having their own Dadalus class ship to do.
30:37
What do what our Dadalus is doing is ferrying stuff back and forward to
30:41
the Atlantis expedition, is they could be doing that within the Milky Way,
30:45
which is dangerous enough if you think about it, Like, given what the
30:48
Russians have been doing in the galaxy previously, it's a big leap of faith
30:52
to be like, Okay, here's here's like the best thing we've ever made
30:56
in the form of a Dadalus class ship where you go, Yeah, but
31:00
that's what I mean, like the benefit of Russia stealing a gate from someone
31:03
else's that they can use the stargate anywhere, Like you know how Popus did
31:07
that in season one where he had to stargate on the ship. That's Gate
31:11
two. Yeah, then we're on the ship where Russians could do that as
31:15
well. They could ferry things everywhere, and then if they get close enough
31:18
to a celestial body, they can gate places and gate back and even the
31:22
right even the Chinese can gate back to the ship, you know, stuff
31:26
like that. Yeah, I guess spends if they're that tech savvy, like
31:30
they know the like, because obviously they don't have any real any real world
31:33
experience in the Gate program, So I guess that's how much well they have
31:37
the Watergate stuff, but yeah, that's true, that's true, So I
31:41
guess. Yeah, it just depends on between that and the reports that they
31:45
have been allowed to read coming out of the SGC, how much of that
31:48
stuff do they know? And I wonder how they did bury it? Did
31:51
they have a burial iris and a Normally there's just something through it, like
31:56
a cardboard box. Yeah, push a carboard box through it, and then
31:59
it's not gonna, I don't know, going to connect or just maybe that
32:02
maybe it's on a hand or a hinge and it just folds down into a
32:07
stone thing. I don't know. When they're not using it feels like a
32:10
lot of work. Well, they're rushing the garage door, they're in a
32:15
shed. They're in a shed the middle of a Siberia. Yeah, I
32:20
just wonder how they do it. Well, it'd be like Origin that's just
32:22
connected up to a big truck that they just get some jumper cables and yeah,
32:28
away they go some magic vines. Um what often waste of Michael Ironside
32:36
in this episode? I was thinking that up until and it maybe didn't get
32:40
much better, but up until they revealed that he was a double agent essentially
32:46
for the Resistance. Because we never see him again, that's it, right,
32:51
okay, because yeah, he's just like yelling and I'm like, I
32:52
believe this guy would be that guy that they're pretending that he is all yeah,
32:57
but he would make good like occurring like Kinsey style character, you know,
33:02
but like he's like a general or a colonel or whatever, or running
33:07
a base. Remember um, Michael Rooker when he was in charge of that.
33:10
Um, I mean he again only did one episode. Yeah, Michael
33:14
Irons, you're talking about the guy, the main guy, the guy from
33:19
like Star Starship Troopers, trying to recall he's in Top Gun. He was
33:24
like the instructor guy in Top Gun. He's like you, Maverick, Yeah,
33:30
legend, you know cool. So I knew I'd seen him in a
33:34
million things. Yeah, he's in everything. Although it was kind of I
33:39
was kind of lame that Cooper didn't like redress the bar set because that's literally
33:43
just the bar from Kudatar, like a couple of weeks ago, like just
33:46
exactly the same, Like don't even like narratively, I guess it worked.
33:53
But where Valor explains to SG one and to the audience, Oh, I
34:00
mean I went to a place it was so strikingly similar to that place that
34:05
Daniel and I went to. I actually thought it was, but it turns
34:07
out it wasn't. But they've got close connections to those people, so this
34:12
looks familiar to you the audience, it's definitely not the same place the town
34:15
is almost has the exact same name, just like three letters different. And
34:20
if you haven't, don't think that they've got a feature in the middle of
34:22
their town square where they could put someone that they're either going to burnt to
34:25
death or leave to staff to death. You are dead wrong. I wasn't
34:29
in Brisbane. I was in Schmisban. Yeah. It's funny how you telegraphed
34:37
or had a premonition about that set. I remember the first time we saw
34:40
that set. You'll be like, oh, I like the set. Get
34:44
used to it, Yeah, get used. This episode does have my favorite
34:49
prior though, This has got to be my favorite prior of the whole series
34:52
that we see in this episode in that Shmrisbane village or whatever. He's actually
34:59
were saying before when you mentioned Jonas's planet. He's one of the leaders of
35:02
Jonas's planet. That's Commander Hale from he was in shadow Play and he was
35:07
in Homecoming. They've just painted him up and he's a pry now, that's
35:10
right. Fix can't pitch the ball? No, the ball? Yeah,
35:16
yeah, the one with the eye, the prior with the eye and when
35:19
he was in when he was one of Jonas's people. He was just like
35:22
bald with kind of the ginger hair around the side. Command he was the
35:27
commander guy, and like, yeah, nice, Yeah, I like him.
35:31
He's a good he's a good prior, he gives, he gives good
35:34
prior and yeah, the fact that he's just got a month at eye for
35:36
no reason. Yeah. And from my memory, VAWA's husband, he he
35:45
recurs rightly. He's around for a bit there, job. Yeah, and
35:50
I give a little bit like Nathan Phillion vibes, like discounting Nathan Phillip.
35:52
Yeah, yeah, he's short too, job. Yeah. And he's another
36:00
guy that I've seen in a hundred things, but I always remember him as
36:04
being the guy at the start of the first Blade film who who gets He's
36:09
like the ex boyfriend of the other lead actress in that film, and he
36:12
gets more because his whole juggular ripped out like one of the opening scenes.
36:16
That's a nice connection given the Atlanta shoots on the Blade three set. Hey
36:20
there we go. Yeah. Yeah. The reveal scene with Valor explaining her
36:24
pregnancy and it's an immaculate conception. She's like, oh my god, have
36:29
you ever heard of anything like this? And they're like, oh, yeah,
36:30
we've got it. I mean there's a whole like religious sector. And
36:36
then just till just chines it with Darth Vader. Oh, that shit flawed
36:39
me. I was not expecting that because I was more focused on the on
36:43
the trading looks between Carter and Mitchell and who's going to be the one to
36:47
say, yeah, we've heard of one. And I'm like, oh,
36:50
how much are they going to say about schmizers? And then he just drops
36:53
Darth Vader and I lost my ship and then where she's like, oh and
36:58
how did that one work out? And Tie for the first time ever had
37:00
so much to say. He said, please let me talk to you about
37:04
what happened, because what was just two thousand and six. Revenge of the
37:07
Sister is already out. He can explain everything to you. He could explain
37:10
the fall, he could explain the redemption. I do. I do.
37:14
He was weird to give cam the line about Merlin and King Arthur and all
37:17
that kind of stuff. I'm like, that's where you go like, oh,
37:21
Daniel's not actually here. Yeah, yeah, even though his bodies here,
37:23
he's not actually here. Because I'm like, of all the people are
37:25
going to bring up schmiz, it's gonna be Cam, Ye Like he's the
37:29
you know, talking about his grandmar and all that kind of stuff. Yeah,
37:31
yeah, he's the most sort of He's not. I don't think he's
37:35
a Bubba Basher, but he's the closest to a Biba basha you're gonna get.
37:37
Yeah, respectfully, I don't know something I mean in the current of
37:44
the you know who's available, Yeah, he would have been flogged with a
37:47
Bible literally when he was a kid. Yeah. Yeah, well, I
37:52
mean by that regard, you know what I say, Kinsey like, there's
37:53
only one guard there, you go, you know, yes, you're right,
38:00
But if the people available in the room in the room, I'm like,
38:01
well, Cam's obviously gonna be the one that's going to talk about MS.
38:06
I like, I like jeebius jeebus. Yes, if you're out there,
38:09
save this one's Teryaki style. Yeah. I think I only realized toward
38:17
the end of this. I don't know whether it's back looking at the synopsis
38:22
or something in the booklet or whatever and going oh shit, this is the
38:23
second last episode of the season. And it's good because there was that episode
38:29
a few weeks ago where I just felt like Hey, what are we doing
38:30
here, guys, We've got I don't mind like a filler episode, just
38:34
sort of give us a bit of a breather between like the overall narrative of
38:37
the season. But I feel like it was a real handbrake. And then
38:42
two weeks ago, well last week on SG one this week and then next
38:46
week not this week, and last week's not necessarily I don't necessarily follow each
38:53
other by any means, but there's enough stuff that's been happening clearly over the
38:58
last couple of episodes. We are that was planted there to breathe and breathe
39:04
in life something and late in this episode, probably more in the in the
39:07
finale, and last week was like part one of a trilogy in a way,
39:12
like small or Large. There's been a lot happening behind the scenes over
39:15
the last couple of weeks. A sudden the last big ore episode we've been
39:20
episode eleven, which was the Fourth Horseman Part two, because then it was
39:23
collateral Damage, which was the memory stuff with cam Ripple effect. Alternate SG
39:30
ones Stronghold, I never remember what that one is, the ship with no
39:38
no that's off the grid. Stronghold was um Pizza sex in the in the
39:44
hospital bed, and then Tilk with the brainwashing. Oh yeah, that's yeah,
39:50
I was thinking of off the Grid. Then you got Ethon, which
39:52
is the destruction of Prometheus, off the Grid which is Barle again, the
39:57
Scourge which is just bugs, and then Arthur's Mantle. So yeah, it's
40:00
kind of the first big or I think since since the mid season, and
40:07
it's funny, like, I know we've dealt with this problem with the with
40:09
the gold before, but further sort of makes you laugh at the idea of
40:15
the power of belief and all that sort of thing. With these guys that
40:21
are lining up to be soldiers and man these ships to go and fight for
40:24
these gods that they think are all powerful and can do anything they want.
40:30
It's like, well, if they could do anything want, why would you
40:34
need to jump into a physical ship to go and fight people that they could
40:37
just destroy. With the thoughts, it's almost the equivalent of saying, hey,
40:40
if you believe in an omnipotent sky balling, why do you have to
40:45
go to a particular building on a particular day exactly and put money in a
40:49
basket and they not go to hell. They kind of sprinkled something I forget
40:53
the exact line, but about the rye and the need to be believed in,
40:59
and it's obviously something we don't know yet about the Ori, so I
41:01
mean first time, I mean anything, But no, I think Alan gave
41:06
a little bit of information in Four Horsemen, of course he did, so,
41:08
Yeah, he said they need they need the belief to give them power.
41:14
They tell their followers they're going to ascend them, but then they don't
41:17
because they don't want to share that power the belief gives them. So I
41:21
guess it's sort of like it's a weird cycle where it's like they the stories
41:25
around them. They don't need their followers to go and fight their battles for
41:29
them. So the fact that these followers and these soldiers are going to do
41:32
the ORI's dirty work for them should be all the proof they need that these
41:37
all powerful gods are not all powerful. Otherwise they could just do that work
41:40
by themselves. But by them going to do the dirty work and put more
41:45
belief into the Ori, that belief is making the Oor more powerful and in
41:50
turn making them powerful enough to be able to do more things that these believers
41:53
already believe that they can do real world allegory. Absolutely, but they can't
41:59
see it. The believers can't see it. Their faith blinds them. Yeah,
42:02
I mean they should have just believed. And they saw that the ships
42:06
were shaped like toilet seats, and yeah, like a guy wouldn't design that
42:08
exactly. You know, I actually don't. I don't mind them too much
42:14
that different. Like what I appreciate it is how unique they are. It's
42:16
okay, we've spent eight years with triangles, now we're going to have circles.
42:20
Yeah, they look like they're like giant Yeah like that. With that,
42:27
I thought, oh, they're giant stargates. Yes, and that's what
42:30
I thought when I first saw him. And I'm like, it doesn't make
42:32
sense. Yeah, but that'd be cool. But also that does remind me.
42:37
Obviously there's the revelation in this episode that there's obviously a working super game
42:39
somewhere in the Milky Way galaxy for all these ships to be yeah, on
42:44
their way, But you know the meeting is more important. Yeah, so
42:50
bring Daniel back. Look, he is the most important, but this is
42:52
the one that this is the most important part of the entire episode. Are
42:57
performing one? I think I've ever heard you call that before. Really.
43:01
Don't get me wrong. It's good. Yeah, and I heard that,
43:07
And how is it that's really not been a thing up until now, Like
43:10
obviously I'm doing a rewatch, so that word I've gotten news to from before
43:19
this season. Yeah. I feel like it's like a fan fans created even
43:24
they use behind the scenes to describe Yeah. They were like, I feel
43:30
like there's like season three or season for audio commentaries where they talk about the
43:32
yeah yeah, but they've never said it in yeah in the actual show.
43:37
Yeah yeah, I think, which is yeah, which is what the joke
43:38
was. When he's like, you've never heard that, yeah, not in
43:43
the report and if if, if we were done, I thought we can,
43:47
we can go out on I've got a little like a little extra present
43:51
for you guys, given that you two have been to like film schools and
43:53
stuff like that and know a little bit filmmaking. Just just Cooper and just
43:58
his wonderful like just bellious. He's like, you know what, I'm going
44:00
to direct things however I want to direct them. Now, there's a there's
44:05
some rules apparently I'm told anyways to filmmaking into the way you're supposed to box
44:09
scenes that apparently we broke here in in in or at least sort of walk
44:16
to a dangerous line with and that in that you're you're really sort of supposed
44:20
to pick a side, and you're supposed to match eye lines so that so
44:23
that it looks that though people are i know, what to do at each
44:25
other in the frame. It's kind of a little bit of a trick,
44:29
but in this case we did something called splitting the eye line across the frame,
44:32
which a lot which you know in One of the effects that that has
44:37
is it kind of brings you dangerously close to introducing the camera into the scene.
44:44
And you're always sort of very wary of bringing the camera into the scene
44:49
because you're making the audience aware that there's a camera there. But in this
44:52
case, that was a very intentional choice in order to bring the audience into
44:58
the story, to make them feel like they were one of the people in
45:00
the room listening to the story that Valo was telling. In fact, she
45:04
almost you know, comes dangerly close to looking right into the camera on occasion,
45:08
and that was a real choice. We kind of talked about whether whether
45:12
it really works and whether it just makes you feel uncomfortable. There's an example
45:15
of it or whether it, you know, had the effect it did is
45:20
sort of up to up to the people watching to decide you're an idiot.
45:24
I'm such a rebel. Apparently there's like things. There's like um laws of
45:31
filmmaking that I know, but they told me later that you're not meant to
45:37
break them. But I did it on purpose. It's like a kid rollerblighting
45:42
and folds. Everyone tells you he'd meant that. James Cameron, who,
45:46
Yeah, I don't follow these rules. I know what they do on the
45:51
floor and it doesn't look hard. What a flug. It's a trick.
45:58
It's filmmaking where you have characters looking at each other within the story, and
46:04
you shoot one side for one actor on the other side of one actor.
46:06
So it's kind of like if you put two TV screens together, it would
46:09
actually look like two people in real world looking at one another, as opposed
46:14
to just shooting the right side of the face of both actors, because then
46:17
it doesn't look like they're actually looking at each other. What the are you
46:20
talking about? Yeah, yes, you were dangerously close to looking in the
46:23
camera. Well yeah, but she's a professional, so she didn't. What
46:29
a idiot a talking about? All the other things that almost happened. Apparently
46:32
there's apparently there's a thing in filmmaking where you do like a master shot where
46:36
you're established the space so the people watching know where everyone is located at the
46:40
scene, so when you cut into smaller close ups, you know where they're
46:45
looking. But apparently that's a rule that I don't really. But the thing
46:49
is, like, if someone fucks up and it's obvious to you or I
46:52
that they actually instead of going back and reshooting it, they will mirror the
46:58
image, like they'll flip the image vertically. They've done it in this show,
47:00
like vertically. There's a there's a Jonas and til cupisode where they're both
47:05
in a in a hammer in a Humby and they flipped Tilt. They just
47:08
so they didn't have to reset the shot. Yeah, they just took Jonas
47:12
out of his chair, put Tilk in it and flipped the image because you
47:15
can see the Yeah. Yeah, then she looked really really close at is
47:21
Emma on his head. He depends on the person's face if they're symmetrical,
47:24
Yeah, like Michelle Fifer, you wouldn't notice. Apparently she has the most
47:30
symmetrical face really. Yeah, interesting, which is nice because she's hard.
47:35
I'm gonna movie on next week and apparently they've got a hat and it's her
47:37
Hello there, hell here on the hat. It's got all the stitching on
47:42
it, and then there's got little ears on it. I'm totally buying one.
47:46
Whit dude, incredible. Every time I watched one of the movies,
47:52
I'm like, man, yeah, although I was mad crush on that is
47:57
it? Scarface? Yes, she's too skinny, yeah's way too skinny,
48:02
unhealthily skinny in that film. I mean, which worked because she's supposed to
48:07
be cocaine. Well that's true, yeah, crackhead, So I guess that
48:09
makes sense. But yeah, fucking Cooper, it's just annoyed me. Now
48:15
yeh officially hate this episode. Job joban was too short. That's the only
48:22
thing I know. The other thing was the thing was to me. You
48:27
know when um, you're talking about your mate, the the actor that you
48:30
like who died or did he die forgot about that? Michael ionside? Yeah,
48:38
Michael, I inside died. I don't remember that. You got shut
48:43
was that on the cliff right in the face they went, they went,
48:46
they left from the cliff and then went that's when they went to get the
48:52
rocks whatever they oh yeah and put him into the pedestal thing. Oh no,
48:57
then Aaronston could right and then they that's when they like shot it and
49:02
yeah, but like lock the door, bro, or go upstairs or like
49:09
yeah, put papla in a bedroom and it's a bar, it's a public
49:13
space. Should be. They're like they're gonna be ages. Love the door,
49:19
close the windows. Man, we look guilty if they come here in
49:22
the door. It's almost like we closed. Yeah, we're supposed to be
49:27
procrastinating or whatever. Maybe should do this during our off hours or something like
49:30
that. When the bars closed, me your dumb asses. And then yeah,
49:36
they all die, they all get shot by job and yeah because she's
49:40
like they made me do it, and that's pretty good. Actually it's a
49:44
good It was actually good bullshit. Yeah, she does think on her feet,
49:47
and she took a mad gamble. I did the pride? Did the
49:52
pride tell you that I was here and come kill me? No, Well
49:53
there you go see obviously telling the truth. Otherwise I'm sure he would have
49:57
done it, because you know, I wants my bell a all powerful.
50:00
I do want to know, though, what what injury can you have that
50:05
gives you Olympie leg but also makes it you incapable of fathering children, but
50:13
also to like the prior just like just destroying dreams there. Like he's like,
50:20
he's like, yeah, I guess yeah, interesting though that if you
50:22
had a baby, yeah do you do you? What do you mean?
50:25
Though? I don't want to be more I provid than this sort of thing,
50:28
but you are not the father. But also what was the point because
50:32
the prior knows that the ri were the ones that put the baby in there.
50:37
Yeah, but he says that that's what I mean. Guys are so
50:39
um just so let you know that. I mean, I cured that thing,
50:43
but prior to me curing it, but so before the curing, but
50:46
after you think you get impregnant. Yeah, it doesn't really match up.
50:51
It's not your baby. And he's like what he is, Oh, don't
50:52
worry about it though, Like it's totally it's a price thing the prize gate
50:54
too. So I could have just told you that that baby was a gift
50:58
from the prize, that's why you were allowed to have it, why your
51:00
wife was allowed to conceive. But just that i'd thrown a little bit of
51:05
spice and telling you that you're actually incapable of father and children to make you
51:09
think that she cheated on you and lied to you. But we actually put
51:15
the baby in there. But at no point does does that confirm to jobin
51:22
that Varlin knew that she was pregnant. Yeah, and that's what she covered
51:28
up. I think that was the best part of what she covered when she's
51:30
like I was listening to that whole conversation to day, and I would have
51:32
said to you, but I was just so shocked by what he said.
51:37
But I mean, I guess this is just a gift from the area and
51:40
we should just revel in their their wisdom and they're all powerfulness, and I'm
51:46
like, oh my god, you're such a talented liar, because this dick
51:50
is ready to believe anything that you were saying. That's what is annoying as
51:53
well, because then the prime knows that, don't they know that she's an
51:59
unbeliever. Yeah, because she came from the Milky Way. They know that
52:05
means to an end at this point, I mean, I don't know.
52:07
And then it's like, well, they know, But she's also like the
52:09
woman who fell from the stars, Like in that town. Yeah, they
52:14
don't know anything about her history. They just know that she was found one
52:16
day in the rings. Yeah, but they so why would and then she
52:20
found out the rest of the town thinks she's a heartlet from another Yeah,
52:22
but then why would Like yeah, it was it was weird. It doesn't
52:27
make any sense. We actually stop and think about it. Yeah, none
52:30
of that makes sense. Yeah, why is she? Why is she pregnant
52:34
because the pride, like the prize made her pregnant? Okay, fine,
52:38
why why for Gerban? And like because it's like it's cool, don't worry
52:44
about it, But then white white tell Joban and make Gerban suspicious of all
52:50
I'm saying is you can get unprotected sex forever mate. And also the last
52:53
time we saw Vala, she was on the rings on the cargo ship.
52:59
Yeah yeah, and then they talk about how like the energy seemed to went
53:01
out and potentially went through the supergate, which is what we know. But
53:06
then she's found on rings on a planet near the supergate. But were they
53:14
going to use that planet? Were they going to destroy that planet to make
53:16
the wormhole? You know how like they have to like black hole black hole?
53:20
Were they going to black hole that planet to do that and then failed,
53:23
and then that's why she d up on that planet. So all those
53:25
people on that planet potentially we're going to be dead anyway, No way,
53:30
I don't think thought about that. She just showed up on it in a
53:36
set of rings. Yeah, that's crazy. And they say they say Tomin
53:38
found her in a set of rings, and she said that too. Yeah,
53:42
like in the planes of Celestis. So I don't know whatever. I
53:45
don't think it was. I think it was like just down the road,
53:49
Oh look what I found. Yeah, she's my wife. What. No,
53:52
I'm not gonna limp dick away from me. If if Claudia Black let
53:59
me in her bed, I would just be like I would be yes,
54:00
deering whatever she said. Well, yeah, but like she didn't have to,
54:07
she didn't have to. But yeah, but she like why did she
54:15
nice? Yeah? Oh that like she's just coming. She's like he was
54:20
just he's just so sweet, so wholesome. Oh my god, everyone looked
54:27
down on him and I was just like, no, he's better than that.
54:30
So I speak English and then also just gives I'm rooted so many blokes
54:37
over the last couple of months, and I just needed a baby daddy for
54:40
he just gives such good like golden retriever energy. Yeah, he's just like
54:45
a little puppy, just following her around. Maybe she maybe she did get
54:49
knocked up like before she came back to Earth and maybe wanted to prys just
54:53
oh maybe Yeah, maybe she was asleep and he just cosby and then Joban
55:00
found her in the ring. I gave her the baby job it was the
55:07
IRRISI guy, your balls don't work by and due, Yeah, that's what
55:12
it was. The flame thing was cool though, where she's in bed and
55:15
there's like the big fire, the fireface. Yeah, that was very cool.
55:19
Was that a dream? Was that in the conception? Like, is
55:22
that what that was? I didn't get that. I feel like it was
55:27
a dream. But she was like impregnant in her dream, but we already
55:30
pregnant by that point less scary way impregnant a woman. But again, they
55:34
never say why they chose her. It doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't
55:38
like out of anyone in that galaxy, they chose the Milky Way slot.
55:43
Yeah, and it kind of would have made more sense if like they'd found
55:49
her in Celeste, like when she transported through they found her yeah, and
55:53
then left her on the side of the road at that at Schrisbans. But
56:00
they they previously really impregnated her after she kind of woke up and was living
56:07
in Smrisban's for a while. Yeah, because there was a while. Yeah,
56:09
So how long has it been since the mid season when it wasn't even
56:15
it was like episode six is when there was Beachhead, So there was a
56:19
while. Yeah, m hmm, So it's been six months at least and
56:24
she's only well doesn't doesn't spoiler alert at the end of next week or the
56:29
beginning of season tennies when she yeah drops the sprogue so to speak. Yeah,
56:35
one bloke said that to me once. Yeah, that's your child.
56:38
Oh I know where it's going out high symbol fire flag spoiler alert. But
56:46
the guy who's already seen it, Yeah, yeah, I remember, yep.
56:52
Yeah, fish tacoy I've ever had in my life. God, because
56:54
tortillas were incredible. Yeah. They make him in house or sets up the
56:58
flavor for the whole bitch. You know what, I just realized something.
57:00
I never even asked you if you were interested in my house. Oh no,
57:05
no, what would I be. Well, it's just when you call
57:07
me back. I didn't know if you wanted to talk about real estate or
57:10
you just seem like a good dude. I thought i'd see if you wanted
57:13
to grab a beer. That's all. I'm glad you called get all.
57:16
I'm safe, pistol, you got it? Job so what? Oh that's
57:22
why? Nothing? What'd you say? I don't know? You call you
57:30
nickname me pistol and I just called you jobing means nothing. I don't.
57:35
I'm drunk. I'm gonna call a cab. All right, man, you
57:39
have my number. Yeah, I got you stored in my ife and if
57:45
you need me call okay. Oh man, I'm golden. Yeah, all
57:49
right, but all right, man, have a good night. That is
57:55
such a good movie. I love a man. I love you man.
58:01
So just it really does emphasize like men of a certain age, like how
58:07
we make friends. Like after if you like you don't know someone from like
58:09
high school or work or something like that, it's like, how do you
58:13
actually friend? I was wondering where you put job in from. It seems
58:16
so specific. I've had those moments. So you just say something. I
58:21
hope that just hear that. What did you know? What'd you say?
58:27
You can nickname me Pistol. So I just got it. Job and that's
58:31
him anything Now he can be Jo now he's Pistol works. See it's all
58:37
coming together. Joban's pistol. Oh where you go? All right, I'm
58:45
done. Let me get into geek, Get into Gate, get into Gate,
58:52
star Gate podcast, get into it now before it's too late. You
58:57
got it. Job