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- 0:01Speaker 1: Jaguars. Did you do Jack, Jack Warris, did you know
- 0:05Speaker 1: Jaguarris Drive Time? Bryan sextext John Ashley, Jaguars Drive Time
- 0:14Speaker 1: starts right now. Hers. Yeah, the tough especially this post
- 0:20Speaker 1: one and uh yeah something you know, I gotta fund
- 0:24Speaker 1: really to win that one and then put some more
- 0:25Speaker 1: points on the board and help of off the top.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome to Jack's Drive Time. I'm Brian, I'm
- 0:32Speaker 1: still a little froggy. Then rely on you to to
- 0:34Speaker 1: talk more today. Brought to you by Jed Home Loans
- 0:38Speaker 1: Jaguars full to four and ten on the season, and
- 0:42Speaker 1: that statement of the obvious by Cody Kessler is what
- 0:46Speaker 1: we're all talking about this morning. The offense, Yeah, it's awful.
- 0:51Speaker 1: I mean, you know it's it's record well, it's had
- 0:55Speaker 1: a franchise record for you know, you know Lois net
- 0:58Speaker 1: yards passing and uh you know that's hard to do
- 1:02Speaker 1: considering brand an expansion that I couldn't get out of
- 1:08Speaker 1: its own way a lot had expansion. Offensive line, but
- 1:11Speaker 1: that's what it is right now. It's the offensive line
- 1:14Speaker 1: is in shambles. They have four players who weren't starting
- 1:20Speaker 1: Week one, and Brian, as you told me afterwards, It's
- 1:22Speaker 1: hard to tell from the press box sometime how injured
- 1:24Speaker 1: a guy is, but it appears that a j Can
- 1:27Speaker 1: is basically playing on one leg, perhaps costing himself a
- 1:31Speaker 1: little money doing so. He's going to be a free
- 1:33Speaker 1: agent in the off season, and you would hope for
- 1:36Speaker 1: his sake that teams realize that he is playing hurt. Um.
- 1:41Speaker 1: You know, at this point, I'm not sure what else
- 1:43Speaker 1: to say about it. We'll hold on because it's one
- 1:45Speaker 1: of our big things. It's a long way because it's us,
- 1:52Speaker 1: so it brings us to our Twitter pool of the
- 1:55Speaker 1: day and it's uh the Exfinity player of the game. Um,
- 2:00Speaker 1: you'll notice that all three are on special teams. Maybe
- 2:03Speaker 1: you have someone else vote, And of course we'll have
- 2:06Speaker 1: highlights and updates throughout the course of the day. Eating
- 2:09Speaker 1: in a happy hour at the end of today. But
- 2:12Speaker 1: let's jump right into it, since John is rearing and
- 2:14Speaker 1: ready to go. Big thing one is offensive. One offensive
- 2:18Speaker 1: touchdown in the last twelve quarters of Jaguars football. Like
- 2:21Speaker 1: you said, twenty net passing yards, the fewest Enfranchise history.
- 2:25Speaker 1: This offense is, no doubt in crisis mode. Coodie Kesler
- 2:28Speaker 1: isn't making excuses but said it's tough to be successful
- 2:31Speaker 1: when you have as many injuries as the offense does. Obviously,
- 2:34Speaker 1: when when when there's injuries and stuff like that, But
- 2:37Speaker 1: you know that's no excuse. Um, you know there were
- 2:39Speaker 1: there was places there I should have made, you know,
- 2:40Speaker 1: when whether it was running the ball or making some throws.
- 2:43Speaker 1: And um, those guys fought, you know, as hard as
- 2:45Speaker 1: they could. And you know, I go to battle with
- 2:46Speaker 1: them any day of the week. And UM, just very
- 2:48Speaker 1: proud of the offense, you know, for the way they
- 2:50Speaker 1: kept fighting no matter who's in there. And um, yeah,
- 2:53Speaker 1: that just comes down to me, you know, find a
- 2:55Speaker 1: way to win and helping those guys out and putting
- 2:56Speaker 1: them in the best position. Um, there's not much more
- 3:02Speaker 1: to say than that. Yeah, I mean there's not I
- 3:05Speaker 1: get that you don't have a voice, but you really
- 3:06Speaker 1: have to do a sigh. So it's fine. I mean
- 3:09Speaker 1: it's uh when you're watching this and there's a Tennessee
- 3:14Speaker 1: in the NFL, because there's a game every week, and
- 3:17Speaker 1: because there's such a build up to that game. If
- 3:20Speaker 1: you're if you're covering the NBA or baseball, you go
- 3:26Speaker 1: through stretches where you just realize that that's what the
- 3:30Speaker 1: team is. And three or four games in a row
- 3:33Speaker 1: like that, they they all look the same and you
- 3:36Speaker 1: realize that's what the team is. Well, this is what
- 3:38Speaker 1: this offense is. It's not going to change before the
- 3:41Speaker 1: end of the season. I wrote my quick thoughts for
- 3:42Speaker 1: a Jaguars dot Com this morning. Um, it's not to
- 3:45Speaker 1: get fixed to the off season. There's nothing to fix.
- 3:47Speaker 1: You're not gonna all of a sudden magically have healthy
- 3:50Speaker 1: first string offensive lineman. You've got one receiver who is
- 3:55Speaker 1: playing at an NFL level right now, and that's Dee Westbrook.
- 3:59Speaker 1: You haven't had a tight end since Week three. You've
- 4:01Speaker 1: got your backup quarterback, who I think anybody thinks is
- 4:04Speaker 1: as good as Blake Boards. But they're not going back
- 4:06Speaker 1: to blake Boards. They've made the change. So this is
- 4:09Speaker 1: what it is. You might get a couple of touchdowns
- 4:12Speaker 1: the rest of the season, but unless you get some
- 4:14Speaker 1: special teams help or some defensive help or weirdness, you're
- 4:18Speaker 1: probably gonna score fourteen points. But I'm not sure how
- 4:20Speaker 1: you're getting the fourteen except if you get five field
- 4:23Speaker 1: goals and minus wants him, Yeah, that's about it. But
- 4:27Speaker 1: if you give some new stuff for this offense the
- 4:29Speaker 1: next two weeks. It's not going to change because you
- 4:31Speaker 1: have no players on offense for to change. Well, and
- 4:33Speaker 1: what you just said, I hadn't really considered. Where was
- 4:36Speaker 1: John T. Moncrief yesterday? Right, except for the penalty. And
- 4:40Speaker 1: then Hellen Cole, who I had is my he will
- 4:43Speaker 1: he won't? He might? I thought we would see him
- 4:45Speaker 1: have at all. Right, that makes it seem so much
- 4:48Speaker 1: more desperate than I have even considered. Well, it's uh,
- 4:55Speaker 1: it's not that they're not trying to win. The coaches
- 4:58Speaker 1: the moves they're making, you say, put before net bet
- 5:00Speaker 1: On back on kickoffs, playing Dave Williams there. My first
- 5:06Speaker 1: thought on that was, well, this is what trying to
- 5:10Speaker 1: lose looks like, you know, when you're going for that
- 5:13Speaker 1: draft pick um. And that's sort of the cynic. I mean,
- 5:16Speaker 1: it's not that they're looking for something to happen. They're
- 5:20Speaker 1: looking for some answer. They're hoping Leonard breaks one. Well
- 5:22Speaker 1: until the yard running the fourth quarter, Leonard didn't give
- 5:25Speaker 1: you much reason that he was going to be that either. Right, Well,
- 5:27Speaker 1: I'm saying put him back on kickoffs, take advantage of
- 5:30Speaker 1: that speed. I did never figured that he would run
- 5:32Speaker 1: it out. I figured he was just back there catching it. Well,
- 5:35Speaker 1: you would hope you would run it. I's gotta do something.
- 5:37Speaker 1: He didn't. Though there was one he caught about four
- 5:41Speaker 1: yards deep. He could have taken it outright. Probably they
- 5:43Speaker 1: kicked away from what um it because it's the NFL,
- 5:50Speaker 1: and because we have this job, and because there's a
- 5:52Speaker 1: game every Sunday, we're gonna over analyze that. We're gonna
- 5:56Speaker 1: fret about it. They were seven points there, seven point
- 6:00Speaker 1: favorites yesterday, and we all sort of joked, well, why
- 6:03Speaker 1: would they be seven point favorites, how are they going
- 6:05Speaker 1: to score seven? Um? And that really came to fruition.
- 6:08Speaker 1: It's hard to be a seven point favorite when your
- 6:12Speaker 1: offense isn't capable of scoring seven points. And I get
- 6:16Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who I'm getting emails about
- 6:18Speaker 1: blaming people blaming Scott Malama. I don't think they should
- 6:22Speaker 1: have made the change. I thought it was an odd
- 6:24Speaker 1: change to begin with. But I don't know what else
- 6:26Speaker 1: he calls. If if you're if you can't block, if
- 6:31Speaker 1: your receivers aren't getting open, and if your quarterback is
- 6:33Speaker 1: hesitant to throw the ball when he does have time.
- 6:37Speaker 1: You can say get creative all you want, but if
- 6:40Speaker 1: you can't do the basics, well how are you going
- 6:43Speaker 1: to get creative off those basics? And it's a mess.
- 6:46Speaker 1: We could go on for an hour all week about it,
- 6:49Speaker 1: but it's bad. How many quarterbacks that are playing today
- 6:51Speaker 1: in the NFL could you imagine overcoming the offensive line
- 6:57Speaker 1: situation as it was. I mean they got no push off,
- 7:01Speaker 1: which amazing. They ran for two of course sixty eight
- 7:04Speaker 1: was Kestler scramblin, but they got no push and the stretches.
- 7:10Speaker 1: Williams actually broke off and runs in this in the
- 7:14Speaker 1: third quarter early fourth they had a couple of stretches
- 7:17Speaker 1: where they run blocked. Okay, Williams did a lot on
- 7:20Speaker 1: those two shirts. Yeah. So, but how many quarterbacks could
- 7:24Speaker 1: overcome I think there are guys who actually been getting
- 7:28Speaker 1: rid of the ball quicker Um. The book on him
- 7:33Speaker 1: is that he doesn't get the ball out quickly. Uh,
- 7:36Speaker 1: but it's it's sort of chicken and egg. It's there.
- 7:42Speaker 1: There are plays, much like with Blake, he could have
- 7:44Speaker 1: thrown it there. But there are too many plays where
- 7:47Speaker 1: you don't have the chance, where it's hard to get
- 7:50Speaker 1: the confidence to stand there and do it. Um. Again,
- 7:53Speaker 1: it's just sort of a spiraling cycle, and you didn't
- 7:55Speaker 1: know which to blame because everybody's playing bad. It seems
- 7:58Speaker 1: like when he first put us our first all defensive lineman,
- 8:01Speaker 1: just coming in general direction, tuck the ball and scramble,
- 8:03Speaker 1: not even the second look as soon as you saw
- 8:05Speaker 1: someone coming in this direction. Yeah and uh and again
- 8:09Speaker 1: there were times where he waited too long to throw
- 8:12Speaker 1: when he had time to throw. Uh. Blake was doing
- 8:15Speaker 1: the same thing at the end, So I don't know
- 8:18Speaker 1: is that an offshoot or a result of the offensive
- 8:23Speaker 1: line not giving time all year? Um. When it's this
- 8:28Speaker 1: in the NFL, because there's so many moving parts, when
- 8:31Speaker 1: it's this broken, everybody wants to say, well, it's one thing,
- 8:34Speaker 1: it's everything. Um. I saw a stat yesterday the Jaguars
- 8:39Speaker 1: lead the league in cap room on the sidelines on
- 8:42Speaker 1: injured reserve. And when you think about it, you know,
- 8:44Speaker 1: eleven billion dollars or Brandon Linder, it's like eighteen point
- 8:47Speaker 1: one or no cap that was cash. Cap room was
- 8:51Speaker 1: about uh Norwell, the story of the season's cornell yesterday
- 8:58Speaker 1: it um and again, when you talk about things like this,
- 9:04Speaker 1: people want a hundred and forty character answers of why
- 9:09Speaker 1: and what happened, and if you're wrong on one thing,
- 9:11Speaker 1: it's well, it's not this. It didn't completely break down
- 9:17Speaker 1: until the offensive line completely broke down, which was sort
- 9:21Speaker 1: of the Lender injury felt like the trigger point where
- 9:24Speaker 1: that kind of flipped. But you had Josh Wells, Corey
- 9:28Speaker 1: Grant in Austin Sperian Jenkins all got hurt against the Chiefs.
- 9:33Speaker 1: Before that, you were the ninth rated offense in the NFL.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Or you came out of that game and I rated
- 9:38Speaker 1: in the NFL with a couple of thirty one point
- 9:41Speaker 1: games and a couple of stinkers. It felt a lot
- 9:44Speaker 1: like last year's offense, where it wasn't consistent enough. It
- 9:47Speaker 1: was going to have days where it produced. Since then,
- 9:50Speaker 1: as the injuries have piled up, it wasn't completely inept
- 9:54Speaker 1: for five, six seven games there and now since the
- 9:57Speaker 1: Lender tipping point, you get more and more injured. Now
- 10:00Speaker 1: you're getting more and more it's it's unovercomable, even though
- 10:03Speaker 1: it's not a word. But no one wants to use
- 10:05Speaker 1: that as an excuse in the locker room, because of
- 10:07Speaker 1: course it is an excuse but that's the true stories
- 10:09Speaker 1: that these injuries have plagued this offense, and they know it,
- 10:12Speaker 1: but no one wants to say it. It's not really excuse,
- 10:14Speaker 1: it's a reality, right. But when it goes this, when
- 10:18Speaker 1: it goes this bad, when it goes as bad, he
- 10:21Speaker 1: can't even talk um when it goes bad. You that's
- 10:28Speaker 1: been said so much that you look for new things
- 10:31Speaker 1: to say so you get away from it. But that's
- 10:33Speaker 1: still the core of the problem, the injuries. However you
- 10:37Speaker 1: built it, however you don't like how they went about it,
- 10:43Speaker 1: it would not be to this degree without an un
- 10:48Speaker 1: usual degree of injuries. And I don't think I'm alone
- 10:51Speaker 1: in this if and it's ifs, but that's the game
- 10:53Speaker 1: we're left to play. If Rashod Green doesn't fumble in Indie,
- 10:58Speaker 1: and if you get any points in the first half
- 11:01Speaker 1: except field goals against Pittsburgh, and if you find a
- 11:05Speaker 1: way to keep your best player from getting ejected in Buffalo,
- 11:09Speaker 1: then yesterday we're talking about being on the fringes. I mean,
- 11:13Speaker 1: you had the six and seven Redskins come out and
- 11:15Speaker 1: here yesterday, and they were on the fringes, and they
- 11:17Speaker 1: were on the fringes and they played like it, by
- 11:19Speaker 1: the way, on that final series, and you're there and
- 11:22Speaker 1: the whole season doesn't seem like as big a disaster
- 11:26Speaker 1: as it does right now. This is what disaster feels like,
- 11:29Speaker 1: and this is what it feels like when you get
- 11:31Speaker 1: to the end. At one point, you looked out there
- 11:34Speaker 1: yesterday and you had A. J. Camps on the field,
- 11:37Speaker 1: and D. D. Westbrook was on the field, and and
- 11:40Speaker 1: Moncrief was on the field, and really those were the
- 11:44Speaker 1: only guys that you had any thought in week one
- 11:49Speaker 1: that you might even be watching them point well, and
- 11:51Speaker 1: you thought that can was was the week spot on
- 11:52Speaker 1: your offensive line starting the season, and Westbrook was your
- 11:55Speaker 1: third receiver at best, and Moncrief was your two. So
- 11:58Speaker 1: it wasn't even a star player. It wasn't even a
- 12:00Speaker 1: guy that we were talking about is the fourth Yeah,
- 12:04Speaker 1: which credit to him. He's he's proven himself way out
- 12:09Speaker 1: of that and has been the only feel good story
- 12:13Speaker 1: on offense. But A Marquis Moncrief and Keeling Cole were
- 12:19Speaker 1: your three. Yeah, all right, well let's move it along,
- 12:21Speaker 1: all right. Big thing too, is special special teams that
- 12:24Speaker 1: should be the storyline of the game, not this inept offense.
- 12:27Speaker 1: But we're gonna make it the storyline at this point.
- 12:29Speaker 1: All the points that the Jaguars scored our credit to
- 12:31Speaker 1: special teams. Yesterday. Mc craze block punt set up the
- 12:34Speaker 1: second quarter field goal. Obviously, Logan cook sixty three yard
- 12:37Speaker 1: punt pinned them and set up the short punt for
- 12:39Speaker 1: then d D. Westbrook to return it for the touchdown.
- 12:42Speaker 1: They were the highlight of the game. You know, um,
- 12:45Speaker 1: I can remember when Cook stepped back for that punt,
- 12:47Speaker 1: and all season long we have been waiting for that
- 12:50Speaker 1: big field flipping moment because we saw him in training
- 12:53Speaker 1: camp and in the preseason really kicked the ball. Well,
- 12:57Speaker 1: that was it right there. What you thought was, well,
- 12:59Speaker 1: here you go, it's a three three ball game at
- 13:01Speaker 1: the end of the half and the Jaguars are going
- 13:03Speaker 1: to get a shank punt off the side of his foot.
- 13:04Speaker 1: It's going to give the redskin to the ball somewhere
- 13:06Speaker 1: near midfield. They'll get a field goal and have a
- 13:09Speaker 1: six three lead. Instead, you saw what happened right there,
- 13:13Speaker 1: great kick, field flipping kick and um and that of
- 13:18Speaker 1: course allowed Doug Marone to use his time outs and
- 13:21Speaker 1: set up the punt return. But that was one of
- 13:24Speaker 1: the best moments of the ball game, which says a
- 13:26Speaker 1: lot about it that the rookie punter came through and
- 13:28Speaker 1: shows you what he can do. But Special Teams should
- 13:30Speaker 1: have been the story, and it was my story into then.
- 13:33Speaker 1: If you guys want to read it, it's on my computer.
- 13:35Speaker 1: Special Teams. It's awesome. It's really done. And the McCray
- 13:44Speaker 1: blocked punt, which at the time felt like that was
- 13:47Speaker 1: gonna be the big player of the game. Um, we
- 13:50Speaker 1: thought last week or I did, that you were going
- 13:55Speaker 1: to need with the way this offense is playing, you
- 13:57Speaker 1: knew they were going to need this spite the points
- 14:01Speaker 1: spread and despite people thinking that they we're gonna were
- 14:04Speaker 1: so bad. You figured they were gonna need big plays
- 14:07Speaker 1: away from offense. Well they got three of them, so
- 14:11Speaker 1: it it does show you this offense is inept enough.
- 14:14Speaker 1: Two ruin what was clearly the most impactful game of
- 14:18Speaker 1: the season prospecially. You know what struck me yesterday was normally,
- 14:21Speaker 1: at this time of the season, on a team like
- 14:22Speaker 1: this that's very injured, a lot of guys who are
- 14:25Speaker 1: core Special Teams players are playing a bigger role on
- 14:28Speaker 1: offense or defense, which thins out special teams or tires
- 14:32Speaker 1: them out because guys are playing more and then having
- 14:34Speaker 1: to go right turn around and be on kickoff coverage
- 14:37Speaker 1: or punt team or whatever. And to have the special
- 14:40Speaker 1: teams playing well with the Nick de Luca who's now starting,
- 14:43Speaker 1: for instance, or Ronnie Harrison who's starting on defense. This
- 14:47Speaker 1: is a lot about what Jodic Mills has been able
- 14:50Speaker 1: to do with these guys, to have them in a
- 14:52Speaker 1: position to make plays despite the fact that they probably
- 14:54Speaker 1: shouldn't be right and still motivating them. Yeah, it should
- 14:58Speaker 1: have been a special day and it wasn't. All right,
- 15:01Speaker 1: all right, big thing three is what matters. So it
- 15:04Speaker 1: was a mixed locker room yesterday in post games. Some
- 15:06Speaker 1: guys obviously we're frustrated and upset about the loss, and
- 15:09Speaker 1: some guys seem to be joking and more positive about
- 15:12Speaker 1: the loss. Class Campbell put it into perspective for us,
- 15:15Speaker 1: it's one of those here's where things that go well
- 15:17Speaker 1: for you. But at the end of the day, you know,
- 15:19Speaker 1: we still have a lot of talent and we have
- 15:21Speaker 1: about to play for and if we can get this
- 15:23Speaker 1: thing going and get some men will going the next year.
- 15:25Speaker 1: I believe what the people we have here coaches have included,
- 15:28Speaker 1: you know, on the players. You know we can we
- 15:30Speaker 1: can still be successful. You are going forward an official alright,
- 15:33Speaker 1: So I think maybe you and I miscommunicating on this,
- 15:35Speaker 1: because what matters in terms of the topic for this
- 15:38Speaker 1: is which players yesterday? What what young players did you
- 15:42Speaker 1: see out there on the field, Um, that you can
- 15:47Speaker 1: hang your hat on, right, So Logan Cook is obviously one.
- 15:50Speaker 1: Uh T. D Westbrook is probably the best example of
- 15:54Speaker 1: a guy who we talked about in the preseason, who
- 15:58Speaker 1: you know, maybe your three, and now all of a
- 16:00Speaker 1: sudden he's got more than fifty catches, scoring a couple
- 16:03Speaker 1: of different ways, contributing on the jet sweep for the
- 16:05Speaker 1: twenty yard. So look at the roster from yesterday and
- 16:09Speaker 1: tell me which players stand out? Is Okay, we've got that,
- 16:12Speaker 1: and we've got that from yesterday. I think that's really
- 16:17Speaker 1: the case to be made about we talked about with
- 16:22Speaker 1: the offense from yesterday, D whispers the only one. Um. Now,
- 16:26Speaker 1: that doesn't mean there's nobody on your team. You've got
- 16:28Speaker 1: Cam Robinson, Andrew Norwell, Brandon Lender, guys who aren't in
- 16:32Speaker 1: the lineup. But what what happened yesterday that you can
- 16:36Speaker 1: take for I mean, I just don't sit there and say,
- 16:39Speaker 1: well d westpers the only player and people say, well,
- 16:40Speaker 1: they've got to replace ten offensive players. It's not like
- 16:43Speaker 1: there's a lot of games. No, no, I totally get that. Um.
- 16:47Speaker 1: But in terms of hanging your hat, Jalen, you know
- 16:54Speaker 1: the three cornerbacks, Uh, I think you're good. Oh they
- 16:59Speaker 1: really you very much out of that game. Uh so,
- 17:04Speaker 1: Logan Cook, out of out of that game specifically, the
- 17:07Speaker 1: defense played fine. The defense I've played as it's played
- 17:10Speaker 1: for the last couple of months, which is they played
- 17:13Speaker 1: fine and until the fourth quarter and then there's a
- 17:16Speaker 1: player two here or there, because the game should already
- 17:18Speaker 1: be gotten away that it doesn't work. So answer to
- 17:22Speaker 1: your question, I would say, and Gotway had a play
- 17:26Speaker 1: that wasn't a sack that maybe could have been so
- 17:29Speaker 1: in Gockway, Logan Cook. The secondary, Yeah, secondary gonna get
- 17:32Speaker 1: many opportunities because of the passing. But when Ronnie Harrison
- 17:35Speaker 1: went down with that injury, I thought to myself, oh,
- 17:37Speaker 1: this is the problem. If he's injured, and that shows
- 17:40Speaker 1: what the impact he's made in the past few weeks.
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- 19:31Speaker 1: to Jags Drivetime Monday Morning, presented by Jet Homelands. We
- 19:34Speaker 1: have some highlights for you, six of them, a lot
- 19:37Speaker 1: of them special scenes which shows deep dig deep but
- 19:42Speaker 1: special teams obviously was key in this game. So let's
- 19:45Speaker 1: go to the first drive of the game. Cody Kesterer
- 19:47Speaker 1: was sacked six times yesterday. He was hurting in the
- 19:50Speaker 1: locker room post game, and he'll be hurting today down
- 19:59Speaker 1: the floor. You got gern pain that it was a fumble,
- 20:03Speaker 1: that it was a redskin recovery. You take it to them.
- 20:07Speaker 1: First drive of the game just gets snailed ball, loose
- 20:12Speaker 1: defense right back out in the field. Oh um, I
- 20:19Speaker 1: did get an odd email, uh about how one of
- 20:26Speaker 1: the readers was saying that he's going to reevaluate. Hey,
- 20:29Speaker 1: it feels about the NFL because if a quarterback like
- 20:31Speaker 1: Josh Johnson can beat the Jaguars, then maybe there's a
- 20:36Speaker 1: lot of guys can come out who can come in
- 20:38Speaker 1: off the streets and win in the NFL. Josh Johnson
- 20:40Speaker 1: didn't be the jag no at all if you're looking
- 20:42Speaker 1: at it like that. He had a hundred yards passing.
- 20:46Speaker 1: He played okay in spots, so I mean he didn't
- 20:49Speaker 1: beat the Redskins, but he didn't beat the Jaguars either.
- 20:51Speaker 1: Would beat the Jaguars was that defensive front of the Redskins, which,
- 20:54Speaker 1: by the way, we knew was going to be great.
- 20:56Speaker 1: Two first round picks the last two years, Alan who
- 20:58Speaker 1: had two sacks John Payney covered that fumble. Ryan Carrigan
- 21:01Speaker 1: was the first round pick in two thousand and ten
- 21:04Speaker 1: and had two stacks, probably should have had more. Now,
- 21:06Speaker 1: the defensive front changed the temple. I said multiple times
- 21:09Speaker 1: last week the the Jaguars. It was not the Jaguars
- 21:18Speaker 1: defense playing against the Redskins defense. The problem was the
- 21:22Speaker 1: Redskins defense was gonna be playing against the Jaguars offense,
- 21:26Speaker 1: which made the Jaguars offense had to score at some
- 21:28Speaker 1: point to get away from what was also a deficient
- 21:31Speaker 1: Redskins offense. Well, the Jaguars offense was worse, so that's
- 21:36Speaker 1: why they couldn't get away from So it wasn't the
- 21:39Speaker 1: Jaguars defense that all of a sudden had this awful game.
- 21:41Speaker 1: They gave up one drive over forty yards. It was
- 21:45Speaker 1: it was fine. You can't function offense, you know, you'd
- 21:48Speaker 1: like two two yards total of it's fine. I mean
- 21:53Speaker 1: it was fine when you can't score on offense, only
- 21:56Speaker 1: as two defense for some last all right, let's go
- 21:58Speaker 1: to the end of the second quarter. Local Cook the
- 22:00Speaker 1: best game of the season for him. He flips the
- 22:02Speaker 1: field here and changes the momentum of the game. Right now,
- 22:06Speaker 1: they just can't generate an explosive plays Logan cookless star
- 22:11Speaker 1: work boy gets off the rocket baby any facts boy,
- 22:17Speaker 1: and Quentin Meeks was so close to pulling that one
- 22:20Speaker 1: into I mean, that would have been a huge play. Yeah,
- 22:23Speaker 1: they wound up getting the touchdown anyway, from so it
- 22:26Speaker 1: probably didn't have a game flipping feel. Uh. That punt
- 22:33Speaker 1: was the equivalent of the Jets punt against the Jaguars
- 22:38Speaker 1: last year. Not in terms of timing of the game.
- 22:41Speaker 1: The Jets kid, I think, kicked it in overtime and
- 22:45Speaker 1: you know, so that won the game for him. But
- 22:47Speaker 1: it was that same kind of thing. And they've as
- 22:49Speaker 1: you said the top of the show, Brian. They've been
- 22:52Speaker 1: wanting that. That's why he went on got Logan because
- 22:54Speaker 1: Josh Norman, Josh Norman, um Brad Nortman uh couldn't do
- 22:59Speaker 1: to have he here, so they wanted that. I've had
- 23:04Speaker 1: some people email me that Logan Cooke was having a
- 23:09Speaker 1: historically bad rookie. See. I didn't think he was that bad.
- 23:13Speaker 1: He just hadn't come up big in big spots. Yesterday
- 23:15Speaker 1: finally did. It's just something you can hang your hat off. Absolutely. Yeah,
- 23:19Speaker 1: all right, let's go to the second quarter again. D
- 23:21Speaker 1: d Westbrook we talked about in August during training camp
- 23:24Speaker 1: who's gonna win that kick return job? And it's obvious
- 23:26Speaker 1: why he is the guy right now there was some
- 23:30Speaker 1: really good block and it's the returnable punt. It was indeed, well,
- 23:36Speaker 1: let's see what this return on Dudy Westbrook does. You're
- 23:40Speaker 1: called it, Ritchie. He's gotten ontoage with a blocker head
- 23:43Speaker 1: and green. He gets a block time field from another
- 23:46Speaker 1: good fun about makes Jackson see and you just went
- 23:51Speaker 1: right to it, Ashley. We watched this competition. We identified
- 23:55Speaker 1: the punt return competition in training camp as being one
- 23:58Speaker 1: of the more interesting ones because you at Jadon Mickens,
- 24:00Speaker 1: who obviously returned one last year against the Redskins for
- 24:04Speaker 1: a touchdown. I'm not Redskins Bengals for a touchdown. Um.
- 24:07Speaker 1: And this kid was the most dynamic of Jadon Mickens,
- 24:11Speaker 1: Rashad green Uh and himself. I mean he that trio,
- 24:15Speaker 1: he was the most explosive. And you finally saw it.
- 24:19Speaker 1: Although the miracle as the Taban pulled up at the
- 24:23Speaker 1: top of the float, I didn't see that. Yeah, I
- 24:26Speaker 1: think it was Taban. But at the very beginning, at
- 24:29Speaker 1: that play, a Jaguars blocker had a chance for a
- 24:35Speaker 1: block in the back right here. Every other play this
- 24:39Speaker 1: season right there, he takes him out. Well and you
- 24:44Speaker 1: come back, remember good for good for him not getting
- 24:48Speaker 1: the block in the back, because it's it's an easy
- 24:50Speaker 1: penalty to get. And I'm surprised he didn't just block.
- 24:52Speaker 1: And by the way, from from that what matters segment
- 24:54Speaker 1: at the end, Taban Bran played pretty well yesterday too,
- 24:56Speaker 1: not just there obviously, but you look at that and
- 24:58Speaker 1: you see a guy who pulled up right Remember against
- 25:01Speaker 1: the Colts when he charged the center on the field
- 25:04Speaker 1: goal attempt, he did not use his head, lost his mind, clearly,
- 25:08Speaker 1: he's making strides, lose his mind every now you get
- 25:12Speaker 1: him right now, All right, let's go fourth quarter. Josh
- 25:16Speaker 1: Johnson two weeks ago was not playing football. Finish the
- 25:18Speaker 1: game forty nine yards rushing, hundred and fifty one yards
- 25:22Speaker 1: passing this fourth quarter touchdown. He's in the league now,
- 25:27Speaker 1: Jobson scrinkle touchdown, six yard touchdown. UM, nice throw, great play.
- 25:40Speaker 1: As it was pointed out to me when I got
- 25:42Speaker 1: home by my kid yesterday, is you know that drive
- 25:45Speaker 1: that essentially was the game winning drive for it kind
- 25:47Speaker 1: of wasn't game winning, but put them in a position
- 25:49Speaker 1: to have a game winning drive. Was made possible when
- 25:51Speaker 1: to Shawn Gibson deflected the pass and they got the
- 25:55Speaker 1: crazy bounce. It is the way that's and but the
- 26:01Speaker 1: other side of that is last year the offense was
- 26:06Speaker 1: functioning well enough were that crazy bounce, but it wouldn't
- 26:11Speaker 1: have mattered. It was the end of the game. It
- 26:13Speaker 1: got the Skins the thirteen. Last year, that would have
- 26:16Speaker 1: been a thirty one a thirteen game at that point
- 26:19Speaker 1: at the end of the season when they were blowing
- 26:21Speaker 1: out the Texans and the Colts, and you know, um,
- 26:24Speaker 1: when you haven't played well enough offensively. Breaks like that
- 26:29Speaker 1: happen when you're only in the teens against the team.
- 26:34Speaker 1: Breaks like that I get the other team over the
- 26:36Speaker 1: top and getting back into it. It shouldn't have been
- 26:38Speaker 1: that close. A lot of games shouldn't have been that close, alright.
- 26:40Speaker 1: Crucial mistake for Cody Kessler in the fourth quarter ended
- 26:43Speaker 1: up potential game winning drive and set up the Redskins
- 26:46Speaker 1: game winning driveler and accepted those skins and that was
- 26:58Speaker 1: the ball game. There was no way they weren't go
- 27:00Speaker 1: go down and get um. Credit Kessler. There was pressure
- 27:04Speaker 1: coming right up the middle. He took a big hit
- 27:05Speaker 1: on that play and he stood there and threw the ball.
- 27:07Speaker 1: It's sailed on him. There were a couple of others
- 27:09Speaker 1: that sailed on him. Um. He may not have been
- 27:11Speaker 1: able to step through fully and drive the ball where
- 27:14Speaker 1: he wanted it to go. And that was the story
- 27:15Speaker 1: of the game as well, isn't it. Um? You know?
- 27:18Speaker 1: I mean, he may not be the guy, doesn't appear
- 27:20Speaker 1: to be the guy, um, but he didn't have any time,
- 27:23Speaker 1: no protection. Thirteen sacks in three games, and again, usually
- 27:28Speaker 1: when there's a big sack number like that over a
- 27:30Speaker 1: course of time, it gets blamed on the offensive line.
- 27:34Speaker 1: It's usually everything. It's usually the quarterback holding the ball.
- 27:38Speaker 1: At times, it's as quarterback running into things. It's a
- 27:44Speaker 1: it's usually a group effort when there's a high sack
- 27:47Speaker 1: number like that, and that's probably the case this time.
- 27:49Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's go to our final highlight. Defense,
- 27:51Speaker 1: of course, had a good game, but could not stop
- 27:53Speaker 1: the Redskins on this final drive. No wind, thirty stick
- 28:00Speaker 1: charge right down the middle. That's it, that's gonna win.
- 28:09Speaker 1: Skins come from behind, and they're seven and seven. And
- 28:15Speaker 1: I don't know what the eagles victory last night in
- 28:18Speaker 1: Los Angeles meant for them. I know that the loss
- 28:21Speaker 1: in Indianapolis by the Cowboys has them still very much
- 28:24Speaker 1: alive in this thing. Yeah, they're still launch Ayes. They
- 28:26Speaker 1: need the Vikings to lose. They need to beat the Eagles.
- 28:31Speaker 1: You know, they didn't beat a very good Jaguars team,
- 28:33Speaker 1: and they've got gonna do it right. They got Josh
- 28:35Speaker 1: Johnson a quarterback, but they needed that game to stay
- 28:39Speaker 1: in it. And uh, which goes back to the old axiom.
- 28:41Speaker 1: As I was walking off the field esterday, we talked
- 28:43Speaker 1: about a teams that need to win in December generally
- 28:46Speaker 1: beat teams that don't. Ye. It's uh, it's rare when
- 28:49Speaker 1: they don't. All right, we need to break in. We
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- 30:40Speaker 1: I'll ben out of shape. Jags four in ten in Miami.
- 30:44Speaker 1: Next Sunday in Houston, the final Sunday of the season.
- 30:49Speaker 1: Uh tamper ozone snapshot. This is where you grill ozone.
- 30:54Speaker 1: Cue the music, the zone. I don't seem to like
- 31:06Speaker 1: it as much this morning. I thought we were just
- 31:10Speaker 1: going to let that play out the whole side. This
- 31:12Speaker 1: show is let it ride baby. All right? All right,
- 31:16Speaker 1: let's go to John from Ponta Vedra Beach. Has Cody
- 31:20Speaker 1: Kessler been given a sufficient opportunity to show he is
- 31:22Speaker 1: not the answer at quarterback? Yeah? I think so, but
- 31:26Speaker 1: I don't think I get that. There were fans who
- 31:33Speaker 1: I always want to see the backup quarterback, so they
- 31:36Speaker 1: want to see that, and they think, maybe this kid
- 31:40Speaker 1: that we haven't seen can be the next Curt Warner,
- 31:43Speaker 1: maybe he can be the next guy. But I never
- 31:46Speaker 1: got the impression, Brian, that that was how the organization
- 31:49Speaker 1: was thinking when they put in Cody Kessler. It was
- 31:52Speaker 1: Blake Bortles in those last couple of games before you
- 31:55Speaker 1: got benched, was really rough, wasn't doing anything. I never
- 32:00Speaker 1: got the feeling that there was a thought of, Okay,
- 32:04Speaker 1: now we're going to Cody and we're going to find
- 32:06Speaker 1: out if he's the guy. It was more we got
- 32:09Speaker 1: nothing else. We got to see if this gives us something.
- 32:11Speaker 1: He's a less expensive Chad Henny. He was smart guy,
- 32:14Speaker 1: had a good relationship with Bortles. They brought him in
- 32:17Speaker 1: to be part of the quarterback room and be a
- 32:19Speaker 1: solid guy. But at the stage I did it, you
- 32:22Speaker 1: weren't thinking he was the answer, because if that's the answer,
- 32:25Speaker 1: you don't want to have the question. Alright. That John
- 32:29Speaker 1: from Jacksonville on A John's this morning. It really feels
- 32:32Speaker 1: like the front office has said play inferior players and
- 32:34Speaker 1: if we lose, that's okay. I've never seen a team
- 32:37Speaker 1: do that for the last six games of the season.
- 32:42Speaker 1: I get I get questions every year during bad seasons. Um,
- 32:49Speaker 1: let's just play X and see what he's got. That's
- 32:54Speaker 1: what this is. You have to do that, right. They
- 32:58Speaker 1: don't everyone else. Right. You want to see And I'm
- 33:02Speaker 1: not saying that's why they're doing this in terms of
- 33:06Speaker 1: some of the guys they're playing, they're trying to find
- 33:08Speaker 1: something to give them a spark somewhere. They're hoping something works.
- 33:12Speaker 1: But for fans who want to see young guys, they
- 33:16Speaker 1: wanted to see CODYE. Kessler. You want to see Uh.
- 33:22Speaker 1: You know, if if I Chart was playing, for example,
- 33:25Speaker 1: he would probably makeing rookie mistakes. Um. That's what it
- 33:30Speaker 1: is when you're playing guys at the end of the season,
- 33:32Speaker 1: to see what they are. Uh, sometimes you're gonna see
- 33:35Speaker 1: that they're still young players trying to develop. Um. Maybe
- 33:39Speaker 1: I read that question wrong. Um, but I thought the
- 33:42Speaker 1: premise of his question was that the Jaguars were putting
- 33:44Speaker 1: guys out there instead of better players. They don't have
- 33:48Speaker 1: righter players. They're on injured reserve, right, there's no one
- 33:51Speaker 1: else to go to look at the defense. They are healthy.
- 33:55Speaker 1: Was Marcel Darius benched in favor of don't know Elienku
- 34:00Speaker 1: that would be That would be saying, hey, inferior player
- 34:04Speaker 1: in in place of Marcel Darius. That wasn't the case.
- 34:07Speaker 1: The only reason you would go to inferior player if
- 34:09Speaker 1: you were a team, would be if he were young.
- 34:13Speaker 1: I say they had put Quentin Meeks in place of
- 34:14Speaker 1: a J. Boyett, a young guy to see it, which
- 34:17Speaker 1: I think they have done it, you know, with with
- 34:19Speaker 1: Taven Brian and and smooth they've done that a little bit. Um.
- 34:24Speaker 1: I suppose you could make the case that yesterday not
- 34:26Speaker 1: playing for the third quarter in place of David Williams
- 34:29Speaker 1: was them saying inferior player in the bowl game. Let's
- 34:32Speaker 1: see what happened. But I don't know that they necessarily
- 34:35Speaker 1: think that he's inferior right now? Yeah, alright, what else
- 34:38Speaker 1: you got? Let's go to Alan from Ohio for the
- 34:40Speaker 1: last zone, different quarterbacks, same results. Can't we skip the
- 34:44Speaker 1: next game? I am so tired of watching such poor offense.
- 34:48Speaker 1: Is unreal? Oh no, I just realized we have two
- 34:50Speaker 1: more games of this. Oh the bells, the bells, bills.
- 34:54Speaker 1: I don't have to say this. I just like the end.
- 34:56Speaker 1: I don't get it my message. It is a cultural
- 34:58Speaker 1: reference that I have missed pop. I'm not sure. I
- 35:00Speaker 1: think maybe he was just freelancing a little bit. Yeah,
- 35:02Speaker 1: he was just like jazz. But it's yes, And there's
- 35:11Speaker 1: nothing more to say about the offense. There's nothing. It
- 35:13Speaker 1: is unreal is when I read that, I thought, he's right,
- 35:16Speaker 1: that's a great description. It's unreal to watch this offense
- 35:20Speaker 1: and then turn on the TV and watch well, I mean,
- 35:23Speaker 1: I understand what's going to happen if if if you
- 35:27Speaker 1: got an offense of backups and some players who perhaps
- 35:32Speaker 1: shouldn't be in the league, and if you wondered what
- 35:35Speaker 1: that would look like, you're getting a chance to see it.
- 35:38Speaker 1: The bells, the bells, the best. Did anybody wonder? Did
- 35:42Speaker 1: anybody wonder? What did it look like? If you don't
- 35:44Speaker 1: want anymore, all right, how about a couple of NFL
- 35:49Speaker 1: headlines for you, um, right out of the gate? Nick
- 35:52Speaker 1: Foles does it again last night? Seventy one yards. You
- 35:59Speaker 1: realize this, the Eagles were a seven and a half
- 36:03Speaker 1: point underdog going out there without Carson um. Sorry with
- 36:07Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. Um. They became a thirteen and a half
- 36:11Speaker 1: point underdog when Carson Wentz was ruled out and Nick
- 36:13Speaker 1: Foles goes in and it's the second largest upset of
- 36:17Speaker 1: two thousand and eighteen. Foals is going to get some
- 36:20Speaker 1: plenty this year. Well, the beer story, or as big
- 36:22Speaker 1: a story is, the Rams are coming back to Earth
- 36:25Speaker 1: and there does appear to be a formula to beat
- 36:28Speaker 1: them and hold them down. Uh, they need to figure
- 36:31Speaker 1: that out. They're now very a very good chance they
- 36:35Speaker 1: have to go through New Orleans. Uh. They when you
- 36:38Speaker 1: get the Super Bowl and and the Bears the only
- 36:40Speaker 1: game ahead of the Bears, so they might be looking
- 36:42Speaker 1: at playing in the first weekend the playoffs, which nobody
- 36:45Speaker 1: thought would happen. That's the most immediate storyline. But the
- 36:48Speaker 1: other storyline is is that Foals is going to hit
- 36:51Speaker 1: unrestricted free agency and it's going to be someone you
- 36:54Speaker 1: We're going to be talking about because people are gonna
- 36:56Speaker 1: send you ozone questions. Oh no doubt U Up. Next,
- 37:00Speaker 1: the Cowboys were shut out for the first time since
- 37:03Speaker 1: that guy was the quarterback? Can you name him? Um? Oh,
- 37:08Speaker 1: I should be able to do it. I can Locks.
- 37:10Speaker 1: Can you name him? Yell at Yes, you're right, Quincy corner. Yeah,
- 37:17Speaker 1: two thousand three. Um, to put it into perspective, Jason Witten,
- 37:21Speaker 1: who just retired, was a rookie that year. Dad didn't
- 37:24Speaker 1: even know it. They were shut out by Indie in
- 37:28Speaker 1: Indy yesterday. Uh. Not that they didn't have chances. By
- 37:31Speaker 1: the way it was spent. At two forty three games,
- 37:33Speaker 1: they had a block field goal. See if this sounds
- 37:35Speaker 1: a little bit like the Colts when they were shut
- 37:37Speaker 1: out down here. Uh, they had fourth and one at
- 37:40Speaker 1: the Colts or three yard line. Uh, and they didn't
- 37:44Speaker 1: get in. So in this day and age, just shutout
- 37:47Speaker 1: usually comes with stuff like that. That's it. They had
- 37:49Speaker 1: chances to not be shut out. Uh. And then finally
- 37:53Speaker 1: the kicking situation in Pittsburgh, Um, young man missed the
- 37:57Speaker 1: kick in the third quarter from thirty two yards. You
- 38:00Speaker 1: remember famously he missed two in their loss to the Raiders.
- 38:04Speaker 1: They brought Sean Sweezuman to coach him this week. Uh,
- 38:09Speaker 1: and he missed the third quarter, but he kicked the
- 38:11Speaker 1: forty eight yard when the game is on the line.
- 38:13Speaker 1: So good for him, Good for him, little upbeat, positive headline.
- 38:18Speaker 1: There at the end. Good for the steerers, you know,
- 38:20Speaker 1: good for the rates or you remember on our poll
- 38:22Speaker 1: last week they were the number one team that everyone
- 38:25Speaker 1: wanted to see missed the playoffs and they got a
- 38:27Speaker 1: big win yesterday, big win yesterday. All right, we'll take
- 38:29Speaker 1: a break, tip log him and is in on a
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- 41:31Speaker 1: Are you good good? I'm still in shocked from what
- 41:35Speaker 1: in particular, Well, uh, twenty yards passing. Yeah, that was
- 41:41Speaker 1: that was kind of rough. That was rough. That was
- 41:43Speaker 1: real rough. As a matter of fact, I've never seen
- 41:45Speaker 1: a game like that never, you know, John said it earlier. Um,
- 41:49Speaker 1: there's really only one receiver. I mean donte Moncrief was
- 41:52Speaker 1: nowhere to be found healing Cole. Oh, he was nowhere
- 41:55Speaker 1: to be found in the week before in Tennessee either.
- 41:57Speaker 1: I mean, the ball went in his direction a couple
- 41:59Speaker 1: of times, and I thought just was poor, poor, poor
- 42:05Speaker 1: performance that he had in Tennessee. And so you look
- 42:08Speaker 1: at the targets and I think there was a limited
- 42:10Speaker 1: number of target he had like two targets Donte Montcreef.
- 42:13Speaker 1: I think they through total four to wide receivers, three
- 42:16Speaker 1: to Westbrook and went to Montcrief. Yeah. Yeah, so there
- 42:19Speaker 1: wasn't a whole lot now And and I know you
- 42:22Speaker 1: probably haven't broken down the film yet, Jeff, but with
- 42:25Speaker 1: the sacks and I heard you on the broadcast yesterday
- 42:28Speaker 1: Cody Kessler's MMO didn't get the ball out quickly. Uh,
- 42:31Speaker 1: And in its prone to sacks? Is it both? Is
- 42:34Speaker 1: is it the line? Is it Cody? Is it just broken?
- 42:37Speaker 1: Break that down? It's probably uh. And I'll give you
- 42:42Speaker 1: a more accurate number here a little bit, but about
- 42:45Speaker 1: fifty Uh, this one that we're looking at here, which
- 42:48Speaker 1: was the first one of the ball game. If you're
- 42:50Speaker 1: Cody Kessler and you escape the pocket, you've changed the
- 42:52Speaker 1: angles for every offensive linement that there is, and so
- 42:55Speaker 1: you are responsible for now for the ball and for
- 42:58Speaker 1: your own so being in and so you've got to
- 43:01Speaker 1: be aware that a guy is going to be coming
- 43:03Speaker 1: from the backside and probably gonna be going after the ball.
- 43:06Speaker 1: He didn't have the awareness there, so that on him
- 43:09Speaker 1: after playing that position you gotta know that. You have
- 43:11Speaker 1: to know that. I mean, that's that's kind of understood.
- 43:13Speaker 1: And and this one right here that's on the offensive line,
- 43:16Speaker 1: that's Patrick Omama. So when we're seeing different different places
- 43:20Speaker 1: here if i'd say fifty fifty and but there's a
- 43:24Speaker 1: there's a there's a disturbing number with Cody Kessler. And
- 43:26Speaker 1: I think the numbers now are seventeen times that he's
- 43:29Speaker 1: been sacked, and I want to say that it's a
- 43:32Speaker 1: hundred fourteen attempts for including the Texans game when he
- 43:35Speaker 1: played second half. I'm counting everything because I mean that counts.
- 43:40Speaker 1: That's not a good number. Seventeen sacks and he's got
- 43:44Speaker 1: a hundred fourteen passing attempts. I don't think there's been
- 43:48Speaker 1: a passer in NFL history that has that kind of
- 43:51Speaker 1: sack ratio. Times he's taken off in rhyme that that
- 43:55Speaker 1: doesn't count in that equation. So, I mean, that's that's unbelievable.
- 43:58Speaker 1: So your answer to the question, and from ozone snapshot
- 44:01Speaker 1: is he's had a sufficient opportunity to prove that he's
- 44:03Speaker 1: not the starting place. We knew that from the get go.
- 44:06Speaker 1: I mean the first time I ever saw him in
- 44:08Speaker 1: mini camp, I was like, oh my gosh, they better
- 44:10Speaker 1: start looking for another guy. But he got better and
- 44:13Speaker 1: did a really good job in training camp of improving
- 44:16Speaker 1: protecting the football. Like, okay, he can probably be adequate.
- 44:20Speaker 1: My only issue was with him is this the sack
- 44:23Speaker 1: because he took sacks at a high rate, and and
- 44:26Speaker 1: even if even if you looked at his numbers when
- 44:28Speaker 1: he was with Cleveland, it was the same deal. And
- 44:31Speaker 1: so you're like, okay, well maybe that was a rookie
- 44:33Speaker 1: thing because that's when he started. Can you grow out
- 44:36Speaker 1: of that? His experience helped that. Yes, experience does help that,
- 44:39Speaker 1: but that is an issue with Cody Kestor, and that
- 44:42Speaker 1: has not changed even though it's where a couple of
- 44:44Speaker 1: years removed from those rookie stars. It almost feels like
- 44:48Speaker 1: we're wasting time even talking about the quarterback because we yes,
- 44:51Speaker 1: we all know that that's got to be addressed with
- 44:54Speaker 1: new players. Yeah, oh yeah. And I think people say, well,
- 44:58Speaker 1: what gives you the best chance to win? Well, you
- 45:02Speaker 1: wanted to, yeah, but no one likes to hear it.
- 45:04Speaker 1: But it's the truth. I don't think you want to.
- 45:06Speaker 1: I don't think you want to go back to that
- 45:08Speaker 1: because you just you just don't go back to there's
- 45:10Speaker 1: no answer at this point now, and you've got two
- 45:12Speaker 1: more games of watching no answer, right, how much of
- 45:17Speaker 1: not going back to that is you know you're not
- 45:19Speaker 1: going forward with it? Of course I think you know
- 45:21Speaker 1: you're not going forward with Kessler. So what difference does
- 45:23Speaker 1: it make? How about how much of it's the other
- 45:25Speaker 1: side of it? And we talked about this with with
- 45:26Speaker 1: Blake last year. You don't want to get injured because
- 45:28Speaker 1: you don't want to be on the hook. Well, you're anyway.
- 45:31Speaker 1: You're on the hook anyway for what six and a
- 45:33Speaker 1: half million I think is what the guarantee is not
- 45:35Speaker 1: your option kind of deals. So um, but if he's injured,
- 45:40Speaker 1: tougher for another team to sign him to get it,
- 45:42Speaker 1: and that would take away you do get some So
- 45:46Speaker 1: you figured then that that figures into the equipment. I
- 45:49Speaker 1: think maybe maybe, But I think the most important thing
- 45:53Speaker 1: though is that, look, you moved on, but that that
- 45:55Speaker 1: ship is sailed to use the term, uh, and you
- 45:59Speaker 1: don't go back to it. And to be personally perfectly honest,
- 46:04Speaker 1: you don't want to go back to him. We're talking
- 46:09Speaker 1: about draft position now. I mean that's the reality. The
- 46:12Speaker 1: best chance to win is and no one likes you.
- 46:14Speaker 1: He's losing at this point, right, because you don't want
- 46:17Speaker 1: to have to fall down in the draft order, assuming
- 46:19Speaker 1: that the quarterback you like is there, and have to
- 46:21Speaker 1: spend more capital to go up to gain him if
- 46:23Speaker 1: you need, be right, or when the Bears famously traded
- 46:26Speaker 1: when they traded second round pick to go up one spot.
- 46:29Speaker 1: Of course that looks like it paid off for them
- 46:30Speaker 1: with Drew Bisky. Sure it does look and and and
- 46:34Speaker 1: it's it's the talk that no coach, no player. Fans
- 46:38Speaker 1: they don't want to hear that talk, I think, But
- 46:40Speaker 1: there's a I think there's a fan base. I think
- 46:42Speaker 1: I think the fans are a little bit more educated
- 46:44Speaker 1: nowadays where they understand that, whereas you know, maybe years
- 46:47Speaker 1: ago they didn't understand that. But after after watching history
- 46:52Speaker 1: in the National Football League, the percentage of show and
- 46:54Speaker 1: the metrics show that do you have to be in
- 46:57Speaker 1: the top of the draft. When I say the top
- 46:59Speaker 1: of the draft, you have to be in the top
- 47:00Speaker 1: ten to have an opportunity even to get to be
- 47:04Speaker 1: a in the position and draft a top guy. So
- 47:09Speaker 1: I think fans are more educated now, and that's the reality,
- 47:12Speaker 1: and you you win for losing. I hate to say that,
- 47:14Speaker 1: but and I would have never have talked about this
- 47:17Speaker 1: years ago, but I mean, that's the reality. And the
- 47:19Speaker 1: National Football League, you gotta have a guy, and until
- 47:22Speaker 1: you get a guy, you're constantly going to be looking
- 47:24Speaker 1: for a guy while you look at what they've done.
- 47:26Speaker 1: And we all saw Cleveland last year and we knew
- 47:28Speaker 1: that they had some talent, but they went and grabbed
- 47:31Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield at the top of the draft, and look
- 47:33Speaker 1: at what he's done and most of the in the
- 47:36Speaker 1: best part about about him, they didn't have to give
- 47:40Speaker 1: up any draft capital to get right there. And so
- 47:44Speaker 1: in a perfect world, you stay right where you are
- 47:46Speaker 1: and then you draft right where you are, and then
- 47:48Speaker 1: you get a quarterback. Now, the flip side to the
- 47:50Speaker 1: the losing is winning is that because when you look
- 47:53Speaker 1: at the teams around the Jaguars this year in the draft,
- 47:56Speaker 1: there's really only one other team that looks like it
- 47:59Speaker 1: might be quarterback driven, and that is the Raiders. The
- 48:03Speaker 1: night in that top bunch, you're still gonna have to
- 48:05Speaker 1: trade up at some point because you're gonna fear somebody
- 48:08Speaker 1: trading up that's it someone jumping over the top of you.
- 48:11Speaker 1: But even or somebody's gonna sell you on. Look, you know,
- 48:13Speaker 1: I got a guy, I got this and calling me
- 48:15Speaker 1: here and you know, and you can just said you
- 48:18Speaker 1: can't take a chance losing a game, so a win,
- 48:20Speaker 1: if it drops you down to like nine, it's a
- 48:22Speaker 1: lot harder to get up into that top three. But
- 48:24Speaker 1: where they are right now is they're sitting in the
- 48:26Speaker 1: fourth or fifth with two games, which is in that
- 48:28Speaker 1: spot with only the Raiders in front of them that
- 48:31Speaker 1: looked like they could take a quarterback overall first. Now
- 48:33Speaker 1: you need to stay somewhere in at four or five
- 48:37Speaker 1: if you if you want to stay where you're at,
- 48:39Speaker 1: possibly to get a guy or to even move up
- 48:41Speaker 1: a little bit to get a guy beyond quarterback and
- 48:44Speaker 1: hopefully there's a guy, yeah, you know, because history shows
- 48:50Speaker 1: there's not always a guy. And the danger they face
- 48:54Speaker 1: is you do feel like, even if there's not a guy,
- 48:57Speaker 1: they're gonna take somebody and hope he's a guy because
- 48:59Speaker 1: you have do it this guy and that's always the danger.
- 49:02Speaker 1: But that's the that's the nature of the NFL. Right Well,
- 49:05Speaker 1: we don't know what you see it although I remember
- 49:07Speaker 1: when Drubisky came out there were a lot of people
- 49:09Speaker 1: that were not sold on him. In fact, last year
- 49:11Speaker 1: people were not sold on him, and then they got
- 49:13Speaker 1: the right coach, and look at what he's been able
- 49:16Speaker 1: to do. There's still people who are quite sure well,
- 49:19Speaker 1: and the defense certainly drives the boat there. He looks
- 49:22Speaker 1: like he's tremendous performance by the Bears defense. But he
- 49:26Speaker 1: made a big throw last night that I watched and
- 49:27Speaker 1: I thought, Wow, the kids really come a long way.
- 49:29Speaker 1: And of course he's got an offensive mind from the
- 49:31Speaker 1: Andy Reid Tree. So as much as the quarterback is important,
- 49:35Speaker 1: who's the guy who's going to be developing him? Man,
- 49:37Speaker 1: that's that's that's a question here, because you don't have
- 49:41Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator. But I still believe if you've got
- 49:46Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, you can have John Osher coaching him, and
- 49:50Speaker 1: Peyton man is gonna be Peyton Manning a little know.
- 49:52Speaker 1: In fact, I did coach him for three coach. I
- 49:56Speaker 1: believe there's a little bit of that when it comes
- 49:58Speaker 1: to quarterbacks and that I but I do, but I
- 50:00Speaker 1: believe this. I believe coaching matters, but I also believe
- 50:03Speaker 1: that the player is more important than the coaching, in
- 50:06Speaker 1: my opinion, Beyond the quarterback, where else an offense? I
- 50:13Speaker 1: mean his receiver. The next place that you go is
- 50:15Speaker 1: a just weapons, just weapons, weapons, whether it be tight
- 50:19Speaker 1: end receiver, whether it be some type of quincy a
- 50:24Speaker 1: noon wall hybrid tight end slash wide receiver, running back
- 50:28Speaker 1: that's a third down back that is Darren sprowls ish
- 50:32Speaker 1: and its prime just weapons. I had a question last week,
- 50:35Speaker 1: Jeff and somebody said, would they benefit more from a
- 50:39Speaker 1: tight end or a wide receiver? I said, there and
- 50:43Speaker 1: stare the question with two or three minutes because I
- 50:44Speaker 1: didn't know the answer. I mean it, they so desperately
- 50:47Speaker 1: need both. I kind of went with wide receiver because
- 50:51Speaker 1: in this day and age, you need it. But if
- 50:53Speaker 1: they had an elite tight end, how much would that help?
- 50:55Speaker 1: I mean, you know, or even a functional tight end.
- 50:59Speaker 1: Dallas god or philadelf Eagles was second round pick. You'll
- 51:04Speaker 1: always be a little bitter love that guy, John, You
- 51:07Speaker 1: know that I liked him when the Jaguars were on
- 51:09Speaker 1: the clock. I'm like, draft the tight end. He's he's
- 51:11Speaker 1: a good blocker, he's a great receiver, he's got legitimate
- 51:14Speaker 1: deep speed and and now he's in Philadelphia with the
- 51:19Speaker 1: tight end kind of centric offense, and he's and he's solid.
- 51:22Speaker 1: He's really good. I mean, and if and if he
- 51:24Speaker 1: was the man, if he was zach Ertz and for
- 51:26Speaker 1: another team, I mean, he would be tremendous. I have
- 51:29Speaker 1: this vision of Jeff watching both the Eagles with just
- 51:32Speaker 1: a little tear, and he does a great job blocking
- 51:38Speaker 1: to We were talking about things you could take away
- 51:40Speaker 1: from yesterday's game, and it's all players, right, and who
- 51:42Speaker 1: you can build around. Obviously, Ded Westbrook has evolved into
- 51:45Speaker 1: more than just the fourth run wide receiver. He's really good.
- 51:48Speaker 1: We thought he was gonna be. First of all, I
- 51:50Speaker 1: think I appreciate him because the week before Tennessee he
- 51:53Speaker 1: got whacked three times. He got whacked, and he's tough
- 51:56Speaker 1: as nails. So I give him a lot of respect
- 51:59Speaker 1: because those are the type of players that you want
- 52:01Speaker 1: to have on your football team, that are tough, that
- 52:03Speaker 1: are willing to go across the middle and take a
- 52:05Speaker 1: hit sometimes. And I don't want him to take too
- 52:07Speaker 1: many hits. But and he's explosive. The part return was awesome.
- 52:12Speaker 1: I mean, did he have great blocking on it? Did
- 52:15Speaker 1: anybody see great blocking? Well, what we saw was David
- 52:19Speaker 1: Brian pull off of what would have been a block
- 52:20Speaker 1: on the back that was bulldoze bulldozer. It was hard
- 52:26Speaker 1: to see on the angle we had. Yeah, he actually
- 52:30Speaker 1: did a really good job pulling off it. Still kind
- 52:32Speaker 1: of nudge him a little bit defensively. We called Tavian
- 52:38Speaker 1: Brian's name a bunch yesterday. Uh yeah, he did. Okay,
- 52:42Speaker 1: the one play that he made it was a sack,
- 52:45Speaker 1: was a good play. He's still got to show more
- 52:48Speaker 1: instinctual performance. I think it's a good term because he
- 52:53Speaker 1: kicks the crap out of people as far as the
- 52:55Speaker 1: guards or tackles that he goes against, because he's just
- 52:59Speaker 1: he is a supreme uh physical strong human being. But now, okay,
- 53:06Speaker 1: now that you've kicked this, but that's not the end game.
- 53:09Speaker 1: The end game is make a tackle, make a sack,
- 53:12Speaker 1: disrupt the play instead of kicking that guy's butt. And
- 53:16Speaker 1: so he needs to take the next step. Can he
- 53:18Speaker 1: make make the next step? I think so? I hope.
- 53:22Speaker 1: So first round pick. Is he a three technique because
- 53:26Speaker 1: here's my opinion on this, because I hear people say
- 53:29Speaker 1: that all the time. Well, he's you know, he's more
- 53:30Speaker 1: of a three technique than he is a defensive and
- 53:32Speaker 1: left playing a five and a three. What's the difference.
- 53:34Speaker 1: It's the same thing. It's an outside shade of offensive lineman.
- 53:39Speaker 1: If you can play a five and you can play three.
- 53:42Speaker 1: If you can play three, you can play five, especially
- 53:45Speaker 1: when you're six ft three six ft four pounds. Now,
- 53:50Speaker 1: if you're a defensive end two d fifty five pounds,
- 53:54Speaker 1: playing a five and playing the three is a little
- 53:56Speaker 1: different because you got a little bit more leeway. And
- 54:00Speaker 1: that doesn't get his noisy, so to speak. And there
- 54:02Speaker 1: as a three technical way to put it. And uh so,
- 54:05Speaker 1: David Bryan should be able to play a five or three.
- 54:07Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. The one thing though, that I'm starting
- 54:10Speaker 1: to see with him that I like is that I'm
- 54:12Speaker 1: starting to see the get off. And that's what I
- 54:14Speaker 1: think he did very well at Florida was that he
- 54:17Speaker 1: was off the ball quick. As soon as that ball
- 54:19Speaker 1: moved just a little bit, he was up the field.
- 54:22Speaker 1: And he's a penetrator and that's how he can be
- 54:24Speaker 1: more disruptive, and he does that more. He has he
- 54:27Speaker 1: has better get off as a three technique. I don't
- 54:29Speaker 1: know why it should be the same as a five.
- 54:31Speaker 1: That's progress for him because early in the season you
- 54:33Speaker 1: weren't sure about that part. No. I thought he was
- 54:36Speaker 1: taking up space certainly in the season, and now he's
- 54:38Speaker 1: actually shown up. So that's good. He's getting better and
- 54:41Speaker 1: he's about it. But Logan Cook finally saw a field
- 54:43Speaker 1: flipping play for bomb kick bomb kick like that, Uh,
- 54:47Speaker 1: that's the one you. That's the one you when you
- 54:50Speaker 1: when you go, okay, we need one and you get
- 54:52Speaker 1: one fantastic punt. And I think there's there's hope for
- 54:57Speaker 1: him in the future because he's got some flexibility. Yesterday
- 55:01Speaker 1: we saw him handle the kickoff duties obviously, and that
- 55:05Speaker 1: that helped, and he did a good job with that
- 55:07Speaker 1: his uh punts and the one that he did out
- 55:10Speaker 1: of the ends on which I was always kind of
- 55:12Speaker 1: concerned about with him, is that he takes a lot
- 55:13Speaker 1: of steps when he's getting ready to punt. That one
- 55:16Speaker 1: was a one step one step for was it sixty
- 55:18Speaker 1: three sixty three yards? I mean wow, so uh that
- 55:23Speaker 1: was pretty good. Um uh. The other young guys in
- 55:27Speaker 1: the game, I thought Wilson did pretty good or is
- 55:30Speaker 1: that Uh, yeah, Wilson I thought did a good job
- 55:33Speaker 1: until he got hurt and I like him. Yeah, I
- 55:36Speaker 1: like him. I thought he was pretty strong telling Smith
- 55:39Speaker 1: again kind of disappointed me in that game a little bit.
- 55:42Speaker 1: That's two weeks in a row that. Uh, I don't
- 55:45Speaker 1: know what's going on with him. It's not the physical
- 55:46Speaker 1: element with Telln is not quite as good this year.
- 55:49Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that's it. Maybe that's it because you go
- 55:53Speaker 1: back to the Philadelphia Eagles game in London and you
- 55:56Speaker 1: could see that he was not wanting to get involved
- 55:58Speaker 1: with some plays because I mean, you could tell that
- 56:00Speaker 1: it was obvious in that game and it's not as
- 56:03Speaker 1: obvious now, or it's not obvious at all. But is
- 56:06Speaker 1: that still a factor and how he's playing because he's not.
- 56:10Speaker 1: He's not putting his head and playing the game downhill
- 56:14Speaker 1: like Telvin com play and being really aggressive with avoiding blocks,
- 56:17Speaker 1: but doing it in a in a physical, on the
- 56:19Speaker 1: edge kind of way, whereas now he's kind of running
- 56:22Speaker 1: around it and not being right on the edge of
- 56:25Speaker 1: a player. All right, all um, you joined us next
- 56:32Speaker 1: Monday because next Tuesday's Christmas Day. Yeah, yeah, I can't wait.
- 56:36Speaker 1: Holidays are awesome. Yeah, we we we actually had it.
- 56:42Speaker 1: We had a fun moment in the game yesterday, and uh,
- 56:46Speaker 1: the Redskins have a tight end named Sprinkle, and so
- 56:51Speaker 1: leave it to Basel going, I like sprinkle, and I said, yeah,
- 56:54Speaker 1: especially during the holidays. I really like sprinkles on cookies.
- 56:57Speaker 1: And he goes, I like sprinkles on donuts. It's like
- 57:01Speaker 1: the perfect holiday name. The tight end for the Redskin Sprinkles.
- 57:05Speaker 1: Your name, Tony Sprinkles. That's a good nickname for him, Sprinkles,
- 57:09Speaker 1: And it begins Jeff. Thanks to much, Jeff, Thanks Ashlyn
- 57:12Speaker 1: and John and Joe and Stone cold working on a
- 57:15Speaker 1: Monday morning. Appreciate y'all. We're back tomorrow. Don't forget Happy
- 57:18Speaker 1: Hour four o'clock this afternoon with JP and crew. Have
- 57:21Speaker 1: a great day.