Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Leading the Future of Safety Net Care Through Innovation and Community Partnerships with Deborah Visconi
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- 0:02- There's a small circle of people who truly
- 0:04- understand what it takes to lead a health
- 0:05- system right now. The decisions are enormous.
- 0:08- The variables are constantly shifting, and the stakes
- 0:11- of getting a call wrong don't stay contained.
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- 0:22- Becker's fourteenth annual CEO and CFO roundtable
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- 0:38- have easy answers.
- 0:39- Join us November second through the fifth in
- 0:41- Chicago.
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- 0:50- This is Laura Dirdo with the Becker's Healthcare
- 0:53- podcast. I'm thrilled today to be joined by
- 0:55- Deborah Lusconi, president and chief executive officer at
- 0:57- Bergen Newbridge Medical Center. Deborah, it's a pleasure
- 1:00- to have you on the podcast today. Great,
- 1:02- Lauren. It's great to be here. Thank you
- 1:03- for having me. Absolutely. Now I'm excited for
- 1:06- our discussion because and I wanna be talking
- 1:08- about some of the cool things that you've
- 1:10- been doing at Bergen Newbridge and, how you're
- 1:12- thinking about the future. But before we dive
- 1:14- in, can you tell us just a little
- 1:15- bit more about yourself and your background?
- 1:18- Sure. Well, I'm Deb Viscone, president and CEO
- 1:20- of Bergen Newbridge Medical Center, and I am
- 1:23- a lifelong health care executive and provider.
- 1:27- I started my career,
- 1:29- long ago as a phlebotomist,
- 1:31- and I grew my career up through the
- 1:33- laboratory ranks. So I'm a medical lab technologist
- 1:36- by clinical background,
- 1:38- spending the early part of my career working
- 1:40- in microbiology
- 1:41- labs
- 1:42- and, growing my career further by getting my
- 1:45- master's in health administration
- 1:47- and then growing up through the administrative ranks
- 1:51- in service,
- 1:52- to communities in New York market primarily and
- 1:55- then moved over to New Jersey market and
- 1:58- serving,
- 1:59- populations
- 2:00- across the state of New Jersey and vulnerable
- 2:03- populations today in my role as president and
- 2:05- CEO of Bergen Newbridge.
- 2:07- I, serve a very unique population,
- 2:10- the vulnerable population in Bergen County and beyond,
- 2:14- as well as individuals
- 2:15- that suffer from mental health and behavioral health
- 2:18- and addictions,
- 2:20- and a big focus on our geriatric and
- 2:22- aging population,
- 2:24- as well as individuals suffering with chronic diseases.
- 2:27- So,
- 2:28- it's been a tremendously
- 2:29- gratifying
- 2:30- journey of career,
- 2:32- starting at the literally at the bedside,
- 2:35- to where I am today as being, the
- 2:37- leader of the largest hospital in the state
- 2:39- of New Jersey.
- 2:41- I love it. Wow. I mean, I think
- 2:43- having all the those different experiences in the
- 2:45- background and and certainly,
- 2:47- those, you know,
- 2:48- that have brought you into the place you
- 2:50- are today is always helpful to understand and
- 2:53- really critical as a leader. Now could you
- 2:55- give us just a quick state of the
- 2:56- union of Bergen Newbridge Medical Center? What's going
- 2:58- well this year, and what do you focus
- 3:00- on for the rest of 2026?
- 3:03- So 2026
- 3:04- has been a year of building for the
- 3:06- future. You know? We have a lot to
- 3:08- be proud of. We opened our newly expanded
- 3:10- emergency department, which has dramatically
- 3:13- improved our ability to care for patients
- 3:15- with both medical and behavioral health needs.
- 3:18- We've also launched our employed physician enterprise named
- 3:22- One Bergen Health, which is our medical group.
- 3:24- And that that group is helping us better
- 3:26- connect care across the continuum and truly
- 3:29- reach out into the community. So our providers,
- 3:32- our doctors are able
- 3:33- to go and practice in the community, which
- 3:35- is really something that Bergen Newbridge, the team
- 3:38- here is really focused on is meeting patients
- 3:41- where they are.
- 3:43- Operationally,
- 3:44- especially proud that we've continued to improve the
- 3:47- quality here at the medical center while maintaining
- 3:50- our commitment
- 3:51- as New Jersey's largest public hospital.
- 3:54- We're we're proving here at Bergen Newbridge that
- 3:56- you can care for the most vulnerable populations
- 3:58- and still deliver exceptional
- 4:00- clinical outcomes.
- 4:02- And, you know, looking ahead,
- 4:04- our focus is, continued to continues to be
- 4:07- on execution.
- 4:08- We've laid the foundation for several transformational
- 4:11- initiatives, including our EPIC implementation. We're in the
- 4:14- middle of EPIC build. So in the first,
- 4:17- half of the year, first actually, two months
- 4:19- of the year, we will, be turning the
- 4:21- switch on EPIC.
- 4:23- We're expanding our ambulatory access,
- 4:26- strengthening our specialty service lines,
- 4:28- and continuing to build a workforce that is
- 4:31- ready for for health care's future.
- 4:33- And health care has no shortage of ideas.
- 4:36- The challenge is a disciplined execution, and that's
- 4:39- where my attention is right now.
- 4:42- I love that. I I think, you know,
- 4:43- having the execution focus,
- 4:45- really is important these days, especially as how
- 4:49- quickly health care is changing, you know, with
- 4:51- new technologies
- 4:52- and different,
- 4:54- policies and and things coming up. So definitely
- 4:56- makes a a helpful difference when you've got
- 4:59- that idea of the strategy in place and
- 5:01- then laying the foundation too,
- 5:03- is so critical. And I I know bringing
- 5:05- in Epic and and turning it on is
- 5:07- a huge group effort and team effort. So
- 5:09- how do you keep everyone focused, throughout this
- 5:11- process and really make sure that, you know,
- 5:14- you're doing everything you need to do in
- 5:16- order for adoption to,
- 5:18- happen once you you get everything,
- 5:20- accelerated and and turned on?
- 5:23- Yeah. So it's certainly about focus, keeping the
- 5:25- team focused on, you know, what our priorities
- 5:28- are. It's, a culture of accountability.
- 5:32- It's a culture of engagement because it is
- 5:34- a tremendous team effort from the bottom up
- 5:37- and all the way around. So it's really
- 5:39- communicating,
- 5:40- engaging,
- 5:41- listening
- 5:42- to the voices of the people on the
- 5:44- front lines,
- 5:45- and making sure that everyone is really rowing
- 5:48- in the same direction and that there's a
- 5:50- lot of energy around that type of leadership,
- 5:54- you know, engaging and being there, being that
- 5:56- on the ground CEO
- 5:58- where you walk and talk with the people
- 6:00- and you're in the trenches with them. So,
- 6:03- but it's a true
- 6:05- testament,
- 6:06- to the team here that we can, you
- 6:08- know, align ourselves and move forward with that,
- 6:12- really
- 6:13- spry execution that you need to to be
- 6:15- successful.
- 6:17- Absolutely. That's great advice and, you know, such
- 6:20- a a strong way to ensure the team
- 6:22- is working together and towards a common goal.
- 6:25- Now I wanted to look ahead,
- 6:28- in terms of some of the things that
- 6:30- you're paying attention to because, again, I I
- 6:32- know there's a lot happening today. So what
- 6:34- are some of the big headwinds that you're
- 6:36- keeping your eye on and preparing for as
- 6:37- you are, going through this epic implementation and,
- 6:41- really truly thinking about planning for the future?
- 6:44- Yeah.
- 6:46- I would say the biggest headwind continues to
- 6:48- be the financial pressure facing hospitals,
- 6:51- particularly safety net hospitals like ours.
- 6:54- Reimbursement
- 6:55- isn't keeping pace with the cost of delivering
- 6:58- care,
- 6:59- especially as patients are presenting with greater medical
- 7:01- complexity and social needs.
- 7:03- And at the same time, we're seeing policy
- 7:05- changes around Medicaid eligibility and coverage that create
- 7:09- uncertainty, not only for patients, but for hospitals
- 7:11- trying to plan
- 7:13- responsibly.
- 7:14- Other things,
- 7:16- that we're keeping an eye on is workforce.
- 7:18- That remains an evolving challenge.
- 7:20- While hiring has improved compared to a few
- 7:22- years ago, today's workforce has different expectations. People
- 7:26- want flexibility,
- 7:27- purpose, opportunities to grow, and leaders who invest
- 7:30- in them. So, we really we really do
- 7:33- invest in people at multiple levels, and so
- 7:36- making sure that we
- 7:38- support our workforce
- 7:40- is something that we keep a a really
- 7:42- close eye on.
- 7:43- And to me, you know, my philosophy has
- 7:45- always been that we can't simply react to
- 7:48- the pressures.
- 7:49- We have to redesign how we deliver care
- 7:52- and leverage technology
- 7:54- intelligently
- 7:55- and continue finding partnerships that improve outcomes while
- 7:58- controlling costs.
- 8:00- Absolutely. Oh, that makes so much sense. And,
- 8:03- you know, especially when you're talking about the
- 8:05- reimbursement and and policy changes, I think that's
- 8:08- something so many health system leaders and executives
- 8:11- are trying to plan around and figure out
- 8:13- how they're going to navigate,
- 8:16- some of those those challenges. So,
- 8:19- I think, you know, being proactive instead of
- 8:22- reactive is,
- 8:23- a great way to do that. And when
- 8:25- you think about care redesign, what does that
- 8:27- mean or look like for you?
- 8:29- How are you,
- 8:30- going about that process, and what can we
- 8:33- expect as you make that redesign in the
- 8:35- future?
- 8:36- You know, it's it's really thinking about the
- 8:39- place of a hospital or a health care
- 8:42- provider
- 8:43- in the community,
- 8:45- really
- 8:46- looking outwardly.
- 8:48- You know, historically,
- 8:49- health care has been centered around the hospitals,
- 8:53- and and the future is centering around the
- 8:55- patient.
- 8:56- And that you know, as I mentioned earlier,
- 8:58- that means expanding access into the communities, build
- 9:00- building those stronger ambulatory networks,
- 9:03- integrating behavioral health and primary care. That's something
- 9:06- we
- 9:06- really,
- 9:08- we really excel at here at Bergen Newbridge.
- 9:10- That is, you know, one of our pillars
- 9:11- of strength is integration, true integration,
- 9:15- using technology to connect patients wherever they are,
- 9:18- and addressing those social factors that influence health.
- 9:21- Right? Because health starts outside of the hospital.
- 9:24- Right? It's in the community.
- 9:26- And so for us, that means continuing to
- 9:28- build our physician enterprise, growing our specialty services,
- 9:32- creating a truly connected system of care, which
- 9:35- is where our epic
- 9:37- platform will really be helpful to us because
- 9:40- we wanna extend beyond the the walls of
- 9:42- the campus.
- 9:43- And we can't think of ourselves as buildings
- 9:45- anymore. Now we have to think of ourselves
- 9:47- as a health
- 9:49- system that exists to serve the people where
- 9:52- they are
- 9:53- and truly listening to the voices of our
- 9:55- community. What do they need from us
- 9:58- to be able to be that beacon of
- 10:00- health, hope, and healing that they deserve?
- 10:05- I love it. I I I love that
- 10:07- kind of, focus on the patient, the community,
- 10:09- and and being able to take in that,
- 10:12- feedback and and then help realize what the
- 10:16- community needs. And to that point, what are
- 10:18- some of the best opportunities for growth in
- 10:20- the next two to three years?
- 10:22- Yeah. I do I think it's gonna be
- 10:23- the ambulatory sector. I think it's gonna be
- 10:25- linkages to partners that can help us address
- 10:29- some of the social determinants of health
- 10:31- that lead to people,
- 10:33- not being healthy.
- 10:35- It's really,
- 10:36- working with physicians and
- 10:39- other types of professionals, whether it's, you know,
- 10:42- the social workers or your dietitians,
- 10:46- you know, your nurse practitioners,
- 10:49- really being that community
- 10:52- connector and providing that service
- 10:55- outside of the walls of the hospital and
- 10:57- and really focusing on keeping people healthier
- 11:01- and connecting them to care more effect effectively.
- 11:05- Absolutely.
- 11:07- I think that makes a ton of sense
- 11:08- and being able to have more of those
- 11:11- touch points throughout the community, the ambulatory
- 11:13- care, and then anything to the
- 11:15- addressing some of those social determinants, will
- 11:19- really
- 11:20- dovetail into everything that you talked about on
- 11:22- your strategy and and keeping the community front
- 11:25- and center. Do you see any of those
- 11:26- social determinants changing, or a lot of them,
- 11:29- continuing to be the same as they've always
- 11:31- been in in, you know, looking for,
- 11:33- some new solutions in order to make a
- 11:35- difference?
- 11:37- Yeah. I mean, you know, we see a
- 11:39- lot of
- 11:41- food insecurity.
- 11:43- We see a lot of transportation issues.
- 11:47- We see housing issues. I think those would
- 11:51- be the top three.
- 11:53- And I think, again, as as a hospital
- 11:55- provider, I feel it's our responsibility to be
- 11:58- able to
- 11:59- connect individuals
- 12:01- to resources or programs
- 12:03- that will help,
- 12:04- address some of those issues for them, including
- 12:07- like, we can do we do our own
- 12:09- food program here,
- 12:11- and, you know, connecting people
- 12:13- to services, resources, and sometimes giving them
- 12:17- gift cards to a supermarket or having them
- 12:20- leave here with nonperishable
- 12:22- food items they can take home with them.
- 12:25- But but the the the the key is
- 12:27- really addressing those issues when you first meet
- 12:30- the patient at the front door, you know,
- 12:32- and finding out what what some of their,
- 12:34- needs are beyond the medical need.
- 12:37- Absolutely. I I love that.
- 12:40- Really, it's so important and inspiring to think
- 12:42- about how you're supporting the community in that
- 12:45- way. Now before we wrap up here, I
- 12:46- wanted to ask you about leadership.
- 12:48- Who do you admire as a leader, really,
- 12:50- from any industry and why?
- 12:53- That's a toughie.
- 12:55- I'm gonna say Satya Nadella,
- 12:58- CEO of Microsoft.
- 13:00- And I
- 13:01- I I admire
- 13:02- him because
- 13:04- he's demonstrated that transformational leadership isn't about having
- 13:07- all the answers,
- 13:08- but it's about creating a culture where people
- 13:10- can innovate, learn, and thrive.
- 13:14- When he became CEO, he shifted Microsoft from
- 13:16- a culture that often rewarded being the smartest
- 13:18- person in the room to somebody that built
- 13:21- around curiosity, collaboration, and continuous learning,
- 13:24- and that cultural transformation
- 13:26- ultimately fueled business transformation.
- 13:29- And, you know, for me, it's it's that
- 13:31- emphasis on empathy, continuous learning, and long term
- 13:35- thinking
- 13:36- in leadership that resonates with me. You know,
- 13:39- health care, we're sort of in the same
- 13:41- place as technology right now. Everything's changing rapidly.
- 13:44- Patient expectations are evolving. Workforce is changing.
- 13:48- And the organizations that will succeed won't necessarily
- 13:51- be the ones with the biggest budgets or
- 13:52- the biggest buildings,
- 13:54- but they'll be the ones that build cultures
- 13:56- where people embrace change,
- 13:58- challenge old assumptions, and and stay relentlessly focused
- 14:02- on the people that they serve
- 14:04- and building that trust.
- 14:06- And that's the culture I I build I
- 14:08- bring here and I'm trying to build every
- 14:10- single day.
- 14:12- That that thank you so much for joining
- 14:13- us on the podcast today. This has been
- 14:15- such a fun conversation. Really amazing to hear
- 14:18- what you're doing at Bergen Newbridge Medical Center.
- 14:20- I look forward to seeing you as well
- 14:22- at our CEO CFO roundtable coming up here
- 14:24- in November. I know you'll be, speaking on
- 14:27- a panel and digging deeper into some of
- 14:29- these themes as well as,
- 14:30- sharing and interacting with peers. So looking forward
- 14:33- to seeing you there. Yes. Likewise, Lauren. Thank
- 14:35- you for having me. It was a lovely
- 14:37- time. Thank you.