Latest / Pink Shade: Reality TV with Mary Payne / 1076 - Pop and Bravo with Deanna Cheng
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- 0:14Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It's Thursday.
- 0:16Speaker 2: That means we're going to talk about pop culture and Bravo.
- 0:20Speaker 2: So I got my friend here, Deanna, changed to chat
- 0:22Speaker 2: both things.
- 0:23Speaker 3: How you doing, Deanna, very pain. It's so nice to
- 0:25Speaker 3: be with you during this holiday season, you know, touchdown.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the world is heavy at the moment.
- 0:34Speaker 1: It's heavy. It's every day we got something new, something new.
- 0:38Speaker 3: It's really crazy.
- 0:40Speaker 1: So I'm happy to.
- 0:41Speaker 2: Come on here and kind of talk about light and
- 0:43Speaker 2: aerie things like Bravo. And I got to tell you
- 0:48Speaker 2: that last night the new Vader Pump Roles was on
- 0:51Speaker 2: after I guess.
- 0:53Speaker 1: It was after Salt Lake. I guess I watched Salt.
- 0:56Speaker 2: Lake and then I was waiting for Watch What Happens Live,
- 0:59Speaker 2: and then they slapped a Vander Pump on to trick me, right,
- 1:03Speaker 2: So I was flipped it over to HGTV as I
- 1:05Speaker 2: want to do, just to touch in with some international
- 1:09Speaker 2: house centers or whatever. Yeah, and I went back to
- 1:13Speaker 2: see if Watch What Happens Live was on, and so
- 1:15Speaker 2: I got sucked into maybe like the last five minutes
- 1:17Speaker 2: of the second episode of vander Pump Rolls, and it was.
- 1:20Speaker 1: Like copy paste.
- 1:23Speaker 2: It was literally a fight at a pool party that
- 1:26Speaker 2: looked exactly like another rooftop poll that like first season
- 1:30Speaker 2: of our vander Pump you know, Stacy Jacks had done.
- 1:33Speaker 1: And I was like, what are we doing right?
- 1:35Speaker 2: Why didn't they first of all give Sir an entire makeover,
- 1:39Speaker 2: make it look like a brand new restaurant, because it's
- 1:42Speaker 2: that shit is dated, that's all, and then new outfits,
- 1:47Speaker 2: you know, so it looked like and then make then
- 1:49Speaker 2: call it vander Pump Roles second shift.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Like just something new.
- 1:56Speaker 3: Right?
- 1:57Speaker 1: Too much of the same.
- 1:58Speaker 3: I mean, I do think it smart. You know, I
- 2:01Speaker 3: will only watch the first episode. I didn't see last Nights,
- 2:04Speaker 3: but I did think it was smart that we did
- 2:07Speaker 3: a full recast, not one, you know, that felt right.
- 2:12Speaker 3: And obviously it's not going to work every time, like
- 2:14Speaker 3: New York, maybe that's not working one hundred percent, you know,
- 2:20Speaker 3: but sometimes you need connective tissue. But I think we
- 2:23Speaker 3: had just sort of bottomed out with that other group,
- 2:27Speaker 3: like we did everything we could do with them, so
- 2:30Speaker 3: it felt nice. I thought that was really smart, I imagine,
- 2:34Speaker 3: because I do think Sir is not doing that well
- 2:37Speaker 3: financially in that, so I don't know that they had
- 2:41Speaker 3: a budget to remake and redo.
- 2:46Speaker 2: It's that same bathroom that Stossa used to hotter Charnay,
- 2:49Speaker 2: you know, in the toilet tank. I mean, it's not
- 2:52Speaker 2: a not a not a new mirror, not a new
- 2:55Speaker 2: tile on the floor, like nothing.
- 2:57Speaker 3: The only thing I'll say about that is it feels
- 3:01Speaker 3: like when you've worked in a restaurant, you know, Like
- 3:05Speaker 3: I'll go back occasionally to the restaurant where I work
- 3:09Speaker 3: the longest, which is downtown in the Bonaventure Hotels Steakhouse
- 3:14Speaker 3: at the top, and it's a you know, it's a
- 3:19Speaker 3: it's a union hotel, so it's different from like others.
- 3:23Speaker 3: But there's people who've been there since the seventies literally literally, Yeah,
- 3:27Speaker 3: you know. So there's something about the consistency of a
- 3:32Speaker 3: look and that I do find true to form. It's like, yeah,
- 3:38Speaker 3: this cru is gone and in five years another crew
- 3:41Speaker 3: is like, there's something about it that makes sense to me.
- 3:46Speaker 1: I understand all of that.
- 3:48Speaker 2: I guess because I'm just such a diehard fan for
- 3:52Speaker 2: the original vander Pump roles that this is rough for me.
- 3:55Speaker 2: So I did watch the full first episode Okay, did
- 3:58Speaker 2: watch some of those people and watch what happens and
- 4:00Speaker 2: then just sort of caught the tail end of this
- 4:02Speaker 2: second episode. And unless somebody watches it and is like
- 4:06Speaker 2: you are missing out, this is amazing, then I'll touch
- 4:10Speaker 2: back in.
- 4:10Speaker 1: But otherwise I think I'm done. I've got so many.
- 4:12Speaker 2: Shows and so I gotta keep up my brain power
- 4:15Speaker 2: for listen. I don't normally watch Below Deck, but I
- 4:18Speaker 2: know we've got the below Deck coming up where the
- 4:21Speaker 2: Salt Lake City Girls were on, and I'm gonna have
- 4:23Speaker 2: to watch that whole season.
- 4:24Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I'm gonna have to. You're looking at your
- 4:28Speaker 3: future and what's on deck and what your commitments currently are,
- 4:32Speaker 3: and it's like, if you don't need to be fully committed,
- 4:37Speaker 3: then you're gonna let you just sit this one out.
- 4:40Speaker 3: And I think that's actually healthy.
- 4:43Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, I thank you, thank you for supporting
- 4:45Speaker 2: my choices. Let's talk about some Bravo news before we
- 4:50Speaker 2: get into it. So Jinshaw, she's out, free as a bird.
- 4:56Speaker 2: What thoughts about.
- 4:58Speaker 1: She came out?
- 4:59Speaker 2: We saw the you know, pictures of her coming out
- 5:01Speaker 2: in a hockey coach shaw and then we saw her
- 5:04Speaker 2: you know, of course then she had gotten herself put
- 5:06Speaker 2: together and then look, you know, was in a trench
- 5:08Speaker 2: code or whatever. I did notice that the size difference
- 5:11Speaker 2: of the lips, hmm, it comes out looked great, by
- 5:16Speaker 2: the way, looked great. Her her almost natural face looked great.
- 5:19Speaker 3: She's got a great natural face.
- 5:22Speaker 1: She had a good base to start. Yeah. So now
- 5:26Speaker 1: Andy has said over and over since.
- 5:29Speaker 3: No uncertain terms.
- 5:30Speaker 2: So when before she went in too, Now he's like,
- 5:33Speaker 2: don't ask me again, Like how many times I'm gonna
- 5:35Speaker 2: say she's not coming back?
- 5:37Speaker 1: I don't want no?
- 5:38Speaker 2: Uh uh, But what do you think is going to happen?
- 5:43Speaker 2: Will there'll be a documentary that she participates in. Will
- 5:46Speaker 2: Are we going to get her on Nightline or one
- 5:50Speaker 2: of these type shows?
- 5:50Speaker 3: Well that's interesting. Yeah, yeah, I think that, like any
- 5:56Speaker 3: reality she's definitely going to do a Trader's right. I
- 5:59Speaker 3: mean that just seems like that's happening, right.
- 6:03Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 6:04Speaker 2: I think she's got to be home for a little bit.
- 6:06Speaker 2: But you know what my understanding is, she is in
- 6:08Speaker 2: the halfway house until like August, because August twenty twenty
- 6:12Speaker 2: six was her earliest possible release date.
- 6:15Speaker 1: Okay, so they said they could let her out but
- 6:17Speaker 1: she has to be in the transitional facility.
- 6:20Speaker 3: So she's not going to be in Scotland at least
- 6:22Speaker 3: she's not doing the next season of Traders, all right,
- 6:25Speaker 3: So you know, I think that the reality world is
- 6:28Speaker 3: her oyster. And if she wants to do any of
- 6:32Speaker 3: those competition shows, I'm sure they're all probably hitting her up.
- 6:38Speaker 1: The villains.
- 6:39Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but what you know, Listen, people do change,
- 6:43Speaker 3: and she may. It would be so surprising if she
- 6:48Speaker 3: did not bite. You know. Yes, I think if it
- 6:52Speaker 3: were me, to your point, be an executive producer on
- 6:59Speaker 3: the one and only docuseries, it's going to be the
- 7:02Speaker 3: you know that you get to cultivate and yeah, and
- 7:08Speaker 3: make some money on for Hulu.
- 7:11Speaker 1: It's gotta be on Hulu. Yea.
- 7:14Speaker 2: All the holidays are here. They're not coming, they're here,
- 7:16Speaker 2: and I'm trying not to pan it because I have
- 7:18Speaker 2: a lot of last minute things to do. Luckily, I
- 7:21Speaker 2: have Wayfair to help me out. I'm hosting a Christmas
- 7:23Speaker 2: Eve party and I'm not ready, not ready. So today
- 7:27Speaker 2: I went on Wayfair and I found the absolute cutest
- 7:29Speaker 2: table decorations. You know, I love some little trees. I
- 7:32Speaker 2: got some outdoor lights while I was at it because
- 7:34Speaker 2: they have everything. They have those blow up outdoor decorations,
- 7:38Speaker 2: They have wreaths for your door. They also have fancy
- 7:40Speaker 2: ornaments that I like, and they gorgeous table linons, literally
- 7:44Speaker 2: everything from napkins to Christmas trees. And luckily, you know,
- 7:47Speaker 2: delivery is fast and free, so I don't have to
- 7:50Speaker 2: worry about that my items are coming this week, so
- 7:52Speaker 2: I'm going to be able to de stress and enjoy
- 7:54Speaker 2: the holidays with my family. And when you go on
- 7:56Speaker 2: wayfair dot com they have an entire gift guide section.
- 8:00Speaker 2: I found some great gifts for my husband's family and
- 8:02Speaker 2: some great things for my sisters and also my dogs. Yes,
- 8:06Speaker 2: Wayfair has the things for your dogs too. Last time
- 8:09Speaker 2: we went to the beach, also we had three items
- 8:11Speaker 2: delivered from Wayfair. It's like Wayfair, yes, thank you, a rug,
- 8:15Speaker 2: a bench and a light fixture.
- 8:17Speaker 1: Y'all.
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- 8:40Speaker 2: every home. So okay, well it's interesting because she hasn't,
- 8:47Speaker 2: you know, come out with I'm out and it's amazing.
- 8:50Speaker 2: You know, we haven't seen that, thank goodness. So maybe
- 8:54Speaker 2: she's hired to be our persons, like let's just tap
- 8:56Speaker 2: it down with the pep it down with a shaw,
- 8:58Speaker 2: amazing shot test all that.
- 9:00Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 9:01Speaker 3: Yeah, she's been through it, like she has been sitting
- 9:04Speaker 3: in jail, you know.
- 9:06Speaker 1: So but earned, earned, earned, beyond beyond.
- 9:14Speaker 3: And I think there's so few lines in the sand
- 9:18Speaker 3: in terms of like reality stars and redemption that shwindling,
- 9:24Speaker 3: specifically being at the helm of a scam to you know,
- 9:30Speaker 3: steal from old people. I'm comfortable with that line in
- 9:33Speaker 3: the sound of like no, you're not you're not showing
- 9:36Speaker 3: back up on Bravo.
- 9:38Speaker 2: Yeah, and I appreciate that Andy has said it from
- 9:40Speaker 2: the beginning. He's like nope, and he is like, I
- 9:43Speaker 2: really wish people would stop asking me, you know.
- 9:44Speaker 3: I know, I feel like his parents told him that,
- 9:49Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I feel like he had
- 9:51Speaker 3: a conversation with his parents.
- 9:53Speaker 2: But himself got swindled by somebody like that. Remember, shoot,
- 9:57Speaker 2: I forgot that.
- 9:58Speaker 1: He himself. I got on the phone with somebody, he
- 10:00Speaker 1: gave his information.
- 10:01Speaker 3: Yeah, my god, I forgot that. It's horrible. I mean,
- 10:05Speaker 3: you know, do you know I know someone who's like
- 10:08Speaker 3: they a lot of times they do it when there's
- 10:10Speaker 3: a death, so they'll look for the people who just
- 10:14Speaker 3: lost his spouse, who are very vulnerable and their finances
- 10:17Speaker 3: are like could be in a scary place because you know,
- 10:20Speaker 3: for yeah, they're not used to handling it, and they
- 10:23Speaker 3: go in and they yeah, I have a friend of
- 10:26Speaker 3: mine's mom was drumorined, it's horrible. It's horrific.
- 10:31Speaker 2: Well, my dad just recently they similar to the Andy
- 10:34Speaker 2: Cohen thing. They got him on the phone.
- 10:35Speaker 1: They called him.
- 10:36Speaker 2: They said they were the bank, and they had him
- 10:38Speaker 2: like pull up on his laptop and they were like, okay,
- 10:41Speaker 2: well so we're trying to get your account and so
- 10:43Speaker 2: we're seeing this. He's like no, and he's like telling
- 10:45Speaker 2: them like what's on his screen? My god, and my
- 10:48Speaker 2: mom like called my sister. It was like hysterical, like
- 10:51Speaker 2: you've got to get over here, like Dad.
- 10:53Speaker 1: Is not listening to me.
- 10:54Speaker 2: And finally he did like hang up with them, and
- 10:57Speaker 2: then of course he had to go to the bank
- 10:58Speaker 2: and make sure that it was taken. And but it
- 11:00Speaker 2: was very similar what happened to Andy Cohen, who's thirty
- 11:02Speaker 2: years younger than my dad. And both my mom and
- 11:08Speaker 2: my mother in law both had a person call and
- 11:12Speaker 2: do that thing where they were like, this is Anna
- 11:15Speaker 2: my daughter, and I need you to help me. Like
- 11:17Speaker 2: with my mother in law Anna, it was Anna that
- 11:20Speaker 2: called who Anna was with us and we were like
- 11:24Speaker 2: she wasn't called and said she was a Disney World
- 11:26Speaker 2: and like somebody had stolen her purson. She needed money.
- 11:28Speaker 2: So and then what happened to my mother? So they
- 11:33Speaker 2: called my mother and it was Anna saying she had
- 11:36Speaker 2: been in like this car accident, and then like another
- 11:39Speaker 2: person got on the phone. I was like, I'm the lawyer.
- 11:40Speaker 2: I'm trying to help her. No, she doesn't want to
- 11:43Speaker 2: call her parents. She said you would help give the money.
- 11:45Speaker 1: Holy shit. Yeah. And then my mom called me that
- 11:48Speaker 1: day and was like, check on Anna and see if
- 11:50Speaker 1: she's in her room.
- 11:51Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm looking at her. She's in
- 11:53Speaker 2: her bed down to sleep. And my mom was like, no,
- 11:55Speaker 2: I promise you.
- 11:56Speaker 1: She just called me.
- 11:56Speaker 2: I was like, Mom, I'm looking at her, looking at
- 11:59Speaker 2: her actual face. She is asleep in her bed. It is,
- 12:03Speaker 2: you know, noon on a Saturday, or else would she be.
- 12:05Speaker 2: She's dead asleep, you know. And my mom was like yeah,
- 12:09Speaker 2: and then like completely tricked her and she get, she gets.
- 12:14Speaker 2: She didn't give any money, and my mother in law
- 12:16Speaker 2: didn't give any money. But my mother in law was hysterical.
- 12:20Speaker 2: I kept calling my husband, like, please check on Anna.
- 12:22Speaker 2: My husband's like, she is in the car with us.
- 12:25Speaker 2: We are she is not in Disneyland. She is in
- 12:28Speaker 2: the car with us. We are doing X YV like
- 12:31Speaker 2: And it's very hard for them because at the time
- 12:33Speaker 2: and now it's even worse. At the time, somehow they
- 12:36Speaker 2: had a way to make the voice sound the same,
- 12:38Speaker 2: and now it's even worse.
- 12:39Speaker 3: What they really Yeah, no, I can't imagine they chose
- 12:44Speaker 3: they got your daughter's voice.
- 12:47Speaker 1: I have no idea.
- 12:48Speaker 2: Now. My mother in law, I mean, we're in yeah,
- 12:52Speaker 2: and was beginning stages of not doing so well when
- 12:57Speaker 2: this happened to my mom. I mean, my mom was
- 12:59Speaker 2: probably only in her late seventies at the time when
- 13:03Speaker 2: this happened, and she was like, I'm telling you, and
- 13:05Speaker 2: she will say to this day I'm telling you that
- 13:07Speaker 2: was Anna's voice. I know her darks and I know
- 13:10Speaker 2: her voice. That was her voice.
- 13:11Speaker 1: I'm like, but it wasn't. She was asleep, you know.
- 13:13Speaker 3: But they could have so kind of grabbed it. There's
- 13:17Speaker 3: we all speak online, you know. They had grabbed it
- 13:20Speaker 3: and cut on Instagram, pulled a bunch of stuff and yeah,
- 13:25Speaker 3: put together.
- 13:26Speaker 2: She's like, tag this is my grandma, you know, on Instagram.
- 13:28Speaker 2: So it's crazy. So Jinshaw, No, he can't come back
- 13:31Speaker 2: on TV. AI has just major job easier. And no,
- 13:36Speaker 2: we don't. We don't want you, but we're glad that
- 13:38Speaker 2: you're out. Yeah, and maybe you can sense it. Holidays
- 13:41Speaker 2: with your kids.
- 13:43Speaker 1: Okay.
- 13:44Speaker 2: Candy and Todd's divorce, Okay, I've heard two different things now.
- 13:49Speaker 2: I have heard that he is with this person that
- 13:52Speaker 2: they were in a thrupple with and the girl is pregnant.
- 13:56Speaker 2: And then I've also heard that she is with the
- 13:58Speaker 2: girl that they were in a thrill. Wow, I feel
- 14:02Speaker 2: like the Todd thing might be more true.
- 14:05Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we've seen that picture of him with
- 14:08Speaker 3: her pregnant. Now, I don't know if that's doctored. We
- 14:13Speaker 3: can't believe anything anymore. Truly No, But that's like, yeah,
- 14:19Speaker 3: you know, that's the danger of that thrupple life, you know.
- 14:23Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta be careful and someone's going to
- 14:27Speaker 3: fall in love and it's not going to end well.
- 14:30Speaker 3: Like I don't know who thinks that they're above this stuff,
- 14:35Speaker 3: but it's just too crazy. Yeah, it's beyond like you
- 14:39Speaker 3: want to have a one off I mean, not for me,
- 14:43Speaker 3: but God blessed, but like full on thrapple where you're
- 14:46Speaker 3: having a life with another with a third person in
- 14:51Speaker 3: your relationship, get out of here.
- 14:55Speaker 2: I don't I've never heard of a case where it works,
- 14:58Speaker 2: but it never does. I've never heard of a case
- 15:00Speaker 2: like No, we've been a throuple for twelve years and
- 15:03Speaker 2: we're happy.
- 15:05Speaker 3: Okay, did you have did you watch that show on
- 15:08Speaker 3: HBO with like the there's a show, Oh god.
- 15:13Speaker 2: It's got a lot of TLC shows with the multiples
- 15:17Speaker 2: in the family.
- 15:19Speaker 3: They I don't know the name of it, but basically
- 15:23Speaker 3: we I was watching it. I was watching with two
- 15:25Speaker 3: of my friends, you know, remotely, and at the end, like,
- 15:28Speaker 3: whatever the heck happened with these people? I think one
- 15:31Speaker 3: of the guys had a lot of shady stuff going on.
- 15:33Speaker 3: They don't even end the season, it just stops. Oh,
- 15:37Speaker 3: it's like episode six and it's over.
- 15:39Speaker 1: Okay, So I think that was that TLC show.
- 15:42Speaker 3: Okay, and then they moved it over to HBO.
- 15:44Speaker 1: Because TLC Discovery HBO. It's all in the.
- 15:47Speaker 3: Okay, who give me? Do you not remember anyone from there?
- 15:51Speaker 1: No? I just remember that.
- 15:52Speaker 2: It was like, from what I recall, it was like
- 15:54Speaker 2: two couples and they had kids, and then they didn't
- 15:57Speaker 2: know the one kid was maybe the dad of somebody else,
- 16:01Speaker 2: but all this news came out that one of the
- 16:03Speaker 2: guys had done a bunch of shady stuff and all
- 16:07Speaker 2: these other kids. Yeah, that was a show that was
- 16:10Speaker 2: on TLC that they just came abruptly.
- 16:12Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I mean I started watching it with two
- 16:16Speaker 3: friends and we were like, wait, what that's it?
- 16:20Speaker 2: You know, Listen, TLC doesn't normally do that. They'll they'll
- 16:25Speaker 2: ride out a horrible character to the end, but with this,
- 16:28Speaker 2: they were like, even this is too.
- 16:30Speaker 1: Much for us.
- 16:30Speaker 3: Wow. And he was so judgmental, which also you know.
- 16:35Speaker 1: Glass houses, you know.
- 16:39Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of possible thropples, let's talk about bron Win
- 16:42Speaker 2: and Todd.
- 16:44Speaker 1: She threw it out there.
- 16:45Speaker 2: He didn't bite, And I guess she's gonna announce that
- 16:49Speaker 2: the reunion, which is probably in a couple of weeks
- 16:51Speaker 2: that they have separated.
- 16:56Speaker 1: And who could have seen it come in Vienna?
- 16:58Speaker 3: Nobody know they were perfect for each other and it
- 17:01Speaker 3: was such a loving and and just energizing relationship. I
- 17:05Speaker 3: really thought, God, one day, hopefully, you know, my relationship
- 17:09Speaker 3: can get close to that. You know, it's a man's world.
- 17:18Speaker 3: We still live in the patriarchy, you know, I I
- 17:23Speaker 3: don't know, God give her some sort of metal for
- 17:26Speaker 3: being with his farty.
- 17:31Speaker 1: Farty, goudy goutyyoudy.
- 17:33Speaker 3: Farty, stinky, grumpy, grumpy, chronic halitosis ass you know, like
- 17:42Speaker 3: I know he has chronic altosis.
- 17:45Speaker 1: I just do cherry stealing.
- 17:47Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, like just doesn't have a funny, funny bone
- 17:52Speaker 3: in his body. She's out there bending backwards, putting on costumes,
- 17:58Speaker 3: running around like a hot dog. I mean it's so
- 18:01Speaker 3: hard to watch, you know.
- 18:03Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she would do that anyway, because that's
- 18:06Speaker 2: just in her. I don't know, I don't know who
- 18:09Speaker 2: amongst us who has got a bigger collection of blow.
- 18:13Speaker 1: About this than bron Win. I mean, where does she
- 18:16Speaker 1: keep them all?
- 18:17Speaker 3: I would I'm no psychologist, but I bet you if
- 18:21Speaker 3: she was in a more balanced relationship, she would need
- 18:26Speaker 3: less costuming.
- 18:28Speaker 1: Okay, because she wouldn't feel the need to be on
- 18:31Speaker 1: all the time.
- 18:32Speaker 3: She wouldn't feel the need to do some sort of
- 18:35Speaker 3: weird presentational act to get some attention and to elicit
- 18:43Speaker 3: a response. I think a lot of that is her
- 18:46Speaker 3: trying to elicit a response from him.
- 18:49Speaker 1: Any attention is good. Attention, yeah, so good, blue yeah, y'all.
- 18:56Speaker 2: When it comes to holiday gifting, I want to give
- 18:58Speaker 2: people things they really love. Gift is my love language.
- 19:01Speaker 2: I want them to look at this present later and go, ah,
- 19:04Speaker 2: she was really thinking of me and something I would like.
- 19:07Speaker 2: You can give Mongolian cashmere sweaters, Italian wool coats. I
- 19:11Speaker 2: told you, guys, I gave my sisters in law those
- 19:14Speaker 2: cashmere blankets last year.
- 19:16Speaker 1: Perfect.
- 19:17Speaker 2: And let me tell you what I'm doing this year.
- 19:19Speaker 2: Giving my daughter two pairs of sterling silver earrings that
- 19:23Speaker 2: she wants. I'm giving my husband and my son these
- 19:27Speaker 2: gorgeous Duffel bags. They have the best gifts, you guys.
- 19:30Speaker 2: They have something for everyone. Like I said, They've got
- 19:33Speaker 2: the soft Mongolian cashmere sweaters that literally would be a
- 19:37Speaker 2: two hundred dollars sweater starting at fifty dollars. They look
- 19:40Speaker 2: like designer pieces. They've got the silk tops, they've got
- 19:43Speaker 2: the skirts. You can dress everything up. They've got leather jackets.
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- 20:38Speaker 2: Last year at the reunion when you came on, I
- 20:40Speaker 2: was like, okay, he was. He seemed normal and nice
- 20:43Speaker 2: and like, okay, yeah, I watched myself back on TV.
- 20:45Speaker 2: That's embarrassing. I don't speak to her very well. And
- 20:48Speaker 2: yes I was texting a woman and Gwen saw it
- 20:51Speaker 2: and all that's terrible. But I've also hoping getting away
- 20:54Speaker 2: from him. I don't even need to see her date
- 20:58Speaker 2: or anything. I just need to see her be sex
- 21:01Speaker 2: and the city, just like hot girl live in her
- 21:03Speaker 2: single life.
- 21:04Speaker 3: Okay, I agree. She really is is connected to Whitney.
- 21:09Speaker 3: It's interesting, even like last night when she disclosed the
- 21:14Speaker 3: fact that she's been with the female at some point
- 21:18Speaker 3: she needed Whitney to like be there with her for
- 21:21Speaker 3: that and to not take off. I'm like, oh, you know,
- 21:24Speaker 3: I think of her as a pretty strong person, so
- 21:26Speaker 3: I thought, oh, it's interesting you know that she does
- 21:29Speaker 3: need I think she sees Whitney as like her age,
- 21:32Speaker 3: and yes, you know, and she she needed her there
- 21:37Speaker 3: to kind of like deal with these birds chirping in
- 21:40Speaker 3: her face. You know.
- 21:42Speaker 1: It's funny too, because when they the two of.
- 21:44Speaker 2: Them had that sit down and they were, you know, talking,
- 21:46Speaker 2: about open marriages or you know whatever. And it was
- 21:50Speaker 2: interesting because they were talking about being married to these
- 21:52Speaker 2: older men. I'm like, okay, well, Whitney, your husband is
- 21:56Speaker 2: like ten eleven years older than you, not not like
- 22:00Speaker 2: thirty seven years older than you.
- 22:01Speaker 1: Like you know, I don't think quite a difference.
- 22:05Speaker 3: Husband is like remarkably older than her. I mean, ten
- 22:09Speaker 3: years between a man and a woman is not newsworthy.
- 22:14Speaker 3: Ten like four years between a woman and a man
- 22:17Speaker 3: is like they're going to write an article about it.
- 22:20Speaker 3: But oh, yeah, you know yeah. I'm like, all right, yeah,
- 22:25Speaker 3: I didn't know personally that you get to just open
- 22:28Speaker 3: up your relationship. It seems like they were like, well,
- 22:32Speaker 3: this is what happens when you date someone older. At
- 22:35Speaker 3: some point you get to be with others. Like wait
- 22:41Speaker 3: a minute, read the print in that one.
- 22:43Speaker 2: Isn't todd tired, isn't he's an older gentleman. I don't
- 22:48Speaker 2: know if he's how much older he is than me.
- 22:50Speaker 2: But I'm tired, and I don't need to be listen.
- 22:54Speaker 2: I barely even want to look within my house. I
- 22:56Speaker 2: don't need to be also looking elsewhere.
- 22:58Speaker 1: I'm exhausted.
- 23:00Speaker 3: Had being able to pull ass is so upsetting to me,
- 23:07Speaker 3: like I find it nauseating. You know, I will to say,
- 23:13Speaker 3: I'll look it up. Yeah, let's get down to it,
- 23:16Speaker 3: because there's nothing about him that should inspire. Like if
- 23:25Speaker 3: you're gonna tell me, okay, well he's you know, paying
- 23:28Speaker 3: women X, Y and Z for their time, Yes, you
- 23:33Speaker 3: know that one thing, Like I guess if he's like
- 23:35Speaker 3: buying them gifts, you know what I mean? But like,
- 23:39Speaker 3: what the hell like not this guy?
- 23:42Speaker 2: Okay, So she is forty and he is It says
- 23:48Speaker 2: either sixty six or sixty seven as of late twenty
- 23:51Speaker 2: twenty five, So I take it back. He is ten
- 23:54Speaker 2: years older than me, so he's really got to be tired.
- 23:56Speaker 2: And they're twenty six years apart.
- 24:00Speaker 3: So nothing sexual about him. I mean, I just.
- 24:03Speaker 2: Can't deal there's not. And then once we met her mom,
- 24:09Speaker 2: all of it made sense. Right, We're like, oh, okay,
- 24:13Speaker 2: she's trying to get this older person approval and she
- 24:18Speaker 2: doesn't have it. She doesn't have it from Muzzy, she
- 24:20Speaker 2: doesn't have it from Todd, and she needs to stand
- 24:22Speaker 2: on her own two feet and realize, you know, she's
- 24:25Speaker 2: like best friends with Christia Ciriano Fus step into that.
- 24:29Speaker 3: March around with him. That's a blast. He seems like
- 24:33Speaker 3: nothing but fun, yes and creative, brilliant. Have fun with him.
- 24:39Speaker 3: Go get some martinis, Go get some espresso martiniz with him.
- 24:43Speaker 1: Going up with Christmas Cariana. You don't need Todd Muzzy.
- 24:45Speaker 2: I really do want to know the origin of the
- 24:48Speaker 2: name Muzzy, And maybe we're going to get it on
- 24:50Speaker 2: the reunion, because I don't know if it is like
- 24:53Speaker 2: a first grandchild couldn't say whatever they were trying to
- 24:57Speaker 2: call her mema and said Muzzy. You know, cause a
- 25:00Speaker 2: lot of times you'll get this nickname the first grandchild
- 25:02Speaker 2: will come up with it.
- 25:03Speaker 1: Yeah, for the grand parent.
- 25:05Speaker 2: But Muzzy is just so close to muzzle and like
- 25:08Speaker 2: Fozzy Bear. It's just so many things it could be.
- 25:12Speaker 2: I just need to know with the origin of Muzzy.
- 25:14Speaker 3: It does work, I will tell you that much. There
- 25:17Speaker 3: she's so she's nothing but a muzzy to me, like
- 25:20Speaker 3: I you know, it's right.
- 25:23Speaker 1: She's in those like Kathy sweatshirts, like need coffee you know.
- 25:27Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, Okay, now, Real Housewife, Ultimate Girls Strip,
- 25:35Speaker 2: road Trip. I'm obsessed with it because they announced at
- 25:37Speaker 2: Bravo Kahn and gave no other information. Okay, Okay, So
- 25:41Speaker 2: I'm annoyed by this, and I'm obsessed with finding out
- 25:44Speaker 2: any kernel of information because I'm trying to figure out,
- 25:48Speaker 2: are they going to like pick up some ladies in
- 25:51Speaker 2: New York City and then drive down to like pick
- 25:55Speaker 2: up some Michelle Salahie in DC, and then where are
- 25:59Speaker 2: we going? I mean we're going, We're going over to
- 26:01Speaker 2: New Jersey. We're going to pick up Teresa. They We're
- 26:04Speaker 2: going to go to Dallas, Atlanta, and then there's a
- 26:06Speaker 2: big wide space of no ladies and then we've got
- 26:09Speaker 2: to go all the way to the west coast.
- 26:13Speaker 1: So what's happening on this week?
- 26:14Speaker 3: Do you think we're in arinder van collecting housewives across
- 26:18Speaker 3: down a coast?
- 26:19Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're. I think we're in an RV.
- 26:22Speaker 2: You got some guy that's driving it. That'll be the
- 26:25Speaker 2: comedic foil wherever. So often it'll be like, I don't
- 26:27Speaker 2: know that Ninie was pretty loud, you know, or something
- 26:31Speaker 2: like that.
- 26:32Speaker 1: And I've heard it.
- 26:33Speaker 3: They give us anything. No, it just they just gave
- 26:38Speaker 3: us a title.
- 26:39Speaker 2: Yeah, And I've asked everybody, and the most I heard
- 26:43Speaker 2: was I heard Heather McDonald talking about her show this week,
- 26:47Speaker 2: and what she had gleamed is that was going to
- 26:50Speaker 2: be a RV situation and that she also her Nieannie
- 26:54Speaker 2: isn't talks to do it, even though you know she
- 26:58Speaker 2: did fire Andy specifically Bravo.
- 27:00Speaker 1: But I guess they got over it.
- 27:01Speaker 3: They seem to have gotten over it.
- 27:03Speaker 1: I think they should get over it because I think
- 27:05Speaker 1: there's she's an icon. I think that.
- 27:10Speaker 3: Yeah. Basically, remember when she did that sit down with
- 27:13Speaker 3: with Bethany No Oh, she did a sit down on
- 27:17Speaker 3: Bethany's podcast a few years ago. I feel like two
- 27:21Speaker 3: years ago.
- 27:22Speaker 1: During the reality reconing.
- 27:24Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and I felt like Nini and it wasn't
- 27:31Speaker 3: good to see, but she had been so beaten down
- 27:38Speaker 3: by I think the man. You know, her impression is
- 27:45Speaker 3: that like there was just a don't work with Nini
- 27:50Speaker 3: blacklist kind of thing that went on. And I don't
- 27:53Speaker 3: know if that's true or it's not. Sometimes you can
- 27:55Speaker 3: get in your head about stuff and it just feels
- 27:57Speaker 3: like opportunities, you know, opportunities fall away when you're not
- 28:00Speaker 3: on these shows.
- 28:02Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 28:05Speaker 3: Relevant, and so it maybe you know, I have no
- 28:08Speaker 3: I tend to believe that there's some truth to what
- 28:11Speaker 3: she's saying. And then there's also just like you're out
- 28:14Speaker 3: of the limelight and so you know, people aren't clamoring
- 28:19Speaker 3: in the same way you know that they were so
- 28:23Speaker 3: but I got I got a real sense that she
- 28:25Speaker 3: had been so kind of beaten down slash humbled by
- 28:30Speaker 3: the experience of being let go in the way that
- 28:34Speaker 3: she was, I think. And it was sad to see
- 28:38Speaker 3: because she is, you know, one of the greats and
- 28:42Speaker 3: will always be. But I had the sense that she
- 28:48Speaker 3: was open to mending this fence, you know, and uh,
- 28:55Speaker 3: getting her life back kind of you know, it.
- 28:58Speaker 2: Would be great if it was like only Ochi's on
- 29:01Speaker 2: this road trip, like you're going to give us a
- 29:03Speaker 2: Bethany and Nini a Ramona.
- 29:06Speaker 1: A Vicky.
- 29:07Speaker 3: Bethany is not going to do it.
- 29:09Speaker 1: No, of course not.
- 29:10Speaker 3: And I'm okay with that.
- 29:11Speaker 2: I'm okay with it too, because I just enjoy her
- 29:14Speaker 2: crazy TikTok good.
- 29:18Speaker 3: It's just go through everything with her. I hate her,
- 29:21Speaker 3: and then I warm up and then I can and
- 29:23Speaker 3: he again, and then I respect her and then I
- 29:26Speaker 3: you know, it's I'm all over the map with Bethany.
- 29:30Speaker 3: At all times.
- 29:31Speaker 2: Yeah, her latest anger at Cardier was pretty entertaining. I
- 29:35Speaker 2: love when she gets real mad at a luxury bland
- 29:37Speaker 2: and then tells us how much everything costs, how many
- 29:41Speaker 2: Love bracelets she has, how many Cardier watches she has?
- 29:45Speaker 1: You know. I like when she gets like.
- 29:48Speaker 2: Really mad at a luxury brand and then she starts
- 29:50Speaker 2: quoting prices. Sure, that just gives me joy because it's
- 29:54Speaker 2: just so it is so out of my realm, you know.
- 29:58Speaker 1: That, It's just like wow, wow, Wow.
- 30:01Speaker 2: That's to me talking about like things in my office
- 30:04Speaker 2: from home guds like she's talking about Cardier.
- 30:06Speaker 3: Yeah, and the five dollars fix on her.
- 30:10Speaker 2: Bracelets or yeah. Yeah, she was like, because the bracelet
- 30:13Speaker 2: doesn't sit like this. It's like this, So I need
- 30:15Speaker 2: to get a smaller and I know what size I wear?
- 30:16Speaker 1: You know?
- 30:17Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 30:17Speaker 2: Wow, who knows what size you wear in a.
- 30:20Speaker 1: Cardia Love bracelet?
- 30:21Speaker 3: You know?
- 30:22Speaker 1: Hard to know. I'll never know.
- 30:26Speaker 2: Okay, Now Beverly Hills. So Beverly Hills has started. We've
- 30:30Speaker 2: had two episodes. I've heard mixed things. I've heard some
- 30:33Speaker 2: people like it's kind of boring, and I'm like, I
- 30:36Speaker 2: have loved every single.
- 30:37Speaker 3: Second too, every second. Well, I think that now when
- 30:42Speaker 3: you have we had two episodes.
- 30:45Speaker 4: Or three, I'm trying to think, because we definitely had two,
- 30:52Speaker 4: because we had the opening one and then we had
- 30:54Speaker 4: the painting of the penis Isi and.
- 30:55Speaker 3: Fertilla I was the second one. The penis is okay, okay, okay, great,
- 31:01Speaker 3: I've kind of merged them both in my head. But yeah,
- 31:04Speaker 3: I think that, like the reason it's really clicking this
- 31:08Speaker 3: year is that Kyle has a lighter spirit, like Kyle's
- 31:13Speaker 3: having fun again and we needed that.
- 31:17Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I agree.
- 31:21Speaker 2: What what is Mauricio on exactly white drug?
- 31:26Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 31:29Speaker 3: Oh my god? His giggle. I'm like, I will murder
- 31:34Speaker 3: you in cold blood, like I his laughing goofy ass laugh.
- 31:41Speaker 3: While talking about dating, I was like.
- 31:45Speaker 1: To his wife. To his wife, He's like, I don't know.
- 31:50Speaker 3: That her, Like I was like, I the emotions coming
- 31:55Speaker 3: up in me when I hear that her her a hearty,
- 31:58Speaker 3: her horror. I'm like, mo, you're a dead man. I
- 32:02Speaker 3: can't even look at your face.
- 32:06Speaker 1: And he's just so.
- 32:07Speaker 2: We saw him when we were in La when we
- 32:10Speaker 2: were leaving dinner at Craig's. He was coming in with
- 32:13Speaker 2: a young blonde girl.
- 32:14Speaker 3: Stop it?
- 32:17Speaker 1: Sure did I saw it with my eyes. Yes, you're dead?
- 32:22Speaker 3: What were the vibes?
- 32:25Speaker 2: So we had had dinner, and so were you with?
- 32:29Speaker 2: I was with Matt Mahr and Ingrid and we'd had
- 32:33Speaker 2: dinner and then we were just going to sit at
- 32:35Speaker 2: the bar and have a drink because, by the way,
- 32:37Speaker 2: always the worst plan. Just have your dinner and then
- 32:40Speaker 2: go home. But when you have that extra drink, you
- 32:42Speaker 2: don't feel so good the next day. Sure, but it's
- 32:45Speaker 2: a mistake I make often. So we were going to
- 32:49Speaker 2: have another drink, which we did, and Ingrid's like, Mauricio
- 32:52Speaker 2: just walked in with some blonde.
- 32:54Speaker 1: I was like, huh. So she was like, oh no,
- 32:56Speaker 1: I need to get this picture of you.
- 32:58Speaker 2: I was like okay, and then I pose so she
- 33:00Speaker 2: could get him behind me.
- 33:03Speaker 3: Do you think he knew?
- 33:04Speaker 2: No, And if he did, he was thrilled. But he's
- 33:06Speaker 2: he's he's five nine. If he's if he's.
- 33:10Speaker 3: A day okay. So so you were you wanted? I
- 33:14Speaker 3: was thinking taller. I'm not gonna lie.
- 33:16Speaker 2: I wanted taller. But you think you see Kylie looks
- 33:19Speaker 2: tall because she's tiny.
- 33:21Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, that makes sense though, I would have
- 33:23Speaker 3: had him at six feet.
- 33:25Speaker 2: No, they've got those tall daughters. But I don't know
- 33:27Speaker 2: where it came from.
- 33:28Speaker 3: Is he cute?
- 33:29Speaker 1: He was? Uh?
- 33:31Speaker 2: From what I could see, just from like the back
- 33:33Speaker 2: and then him walking and from the side, you know,
- 33:35Speaker 2: without he he seemed he seemed young and light and.
- 33:39Speaker 3: Happy, unburdened by what would say, yeah, he is unburdened
- 33:49Speaker 3: by what has been really truly.
- 33:52Speaker 2: She went over there and was like, I'm bringing you towels,
- 33:55Speaker 2: and again he's like, again, you already brought me towel.
- 33:58Speaker 2: I don't know why I need somebody's towel. She's just like,
- 34:01Speaker 2: you have four daughters, like you need towels. So she
- 34:04Speaker 2: brings them towels and she shows them the black makeup
- 34:07Speaker 2: towels so's to not get the white one sturdy and
- 34:09Speaker 2: says these are not for all your whorees or whatever.
- 34:12Speaker 1: And he's like, that's like, why are you why are
- 34:22Speaker 1: you laughing?
- 34:23Speaker 2: You just go, oh, Kyle, I wouldn't do that, or
- 34:26Speaker 2: of course I know these are for our daughters. I'm
- 34:28Speaker 2: gonna put them in the guest room. But he's just like, oh,
- 34:31Speaker 2: portion told me.
- 34:32Speaker 1: I'm in my hae.
- 34:32Speaker 3: Face here's the thing. Ew here's what I actually feel now.
- 34:41Speaker 3: You know, remember when vander Pump had that like article
- 34:46Speaker 3: about him cheating on Kyle. The rumor is.
- 34:49Speaker 2: Oh, oh Lisa vander Pump had it and then tricked
- 34:52Speaker 2: brain to Glenville into like presuming yes, yes, yes, yes,
- 34:56Speaker 2: back in the day.
- 34:57Speaker 3: I think that he has been a ho this entire time,
- 35:02Speaker 3: and that Kyle had it in a place in her
- 35:06Speaker 3: mind right like she knew. I believe she knew things
- 35:11Speaker 3: were happening. They had an agreement of some kind in place,
- 35:15Speaker 3: don't yeah, Like they have to be random, it has
- 35:20Speaker 3: to be a one time thing, you know, whatever their
- 35:22Speaker 3: freaking deal was. So I think that's why what we're
- 35:25Speaker 3: seeing right now is so lived in mm hmm, you know,
- 35:32Speaker 3: because he is now just it's not it doesn't feel new.
- 35:39Speaker 1: No, and whatever.
- 35:40Speaker 2: It was two seasons ago when they were separating, and
- 35:44Speaker 2: you could tell she had such disdain for him when
- 35:47Speaker 2: he was talking, oh yeah, when he said like, how
- 35:50Speaker 2: many more tattoos are you going to get? Like I
- 35:52Speaker 2: don't like it, and she was like, I don't give a.
- 35:54Speaker 1: Fuck what you like. It was the anger she had.
- 35:58Speaker 2: And I think at that point, either something had been
- 36:01Speaker 2: exposed something so bad that she was like, now this
- 36:04Speaker 2: I can't forgive like this. I was going to look
- 36:06Speaker 2: the other way and don't care because we have this
- 36:09Speaker 2: life and whatever. But now whatever this is that you've done,
- 36:12Speaker 2: now I can't move past it. Correct and then yeah,
- 36:15Speaker 2: and then she heard Morgan Wade's music and DMed her
- 36:19Speaker 2: because she enjoyed the lyrics and went on a sober
- 36:23Speaker 2: journey and it all just snowballed together.
- 36:26Speaker 1: Here we are and here we are.
- 36:28Speaker 2: And at the end of the episode when she's talking
- 36:30Speaker 2: to Erica about it, and she's you know, it's obviously
- 36:34Speaker 2: planned that they're going to discuss it, and she's saying
- 36:37Speaker 2: to Erica, you know, the person that I was with
- 36:41Speaker 2: didn't want all this. But I'm like, as Jerit said
- 36:44Speaker 2: under her breath, and watch what happens live. Regarding Morgan,
- 36:48Speaker 2: she's like public figure.
- 36:49Speaker 3: Public figure, public figure who was on the show quite
- 36:52Speaker 3: a bit.
- 36:53Speaker 1: Was on the show as Kyle's friend, and she.
- 36:58Speaker 3: Was singing at the memorial of her bad friend. She
- 37:01Speaker 3: was getting tattoos with her. She was on the goddamn show.
- 37:06Speaker 2: I think that she they dated, and I think it's,
- 37:11Speaker 2: like Kyle said, she felt very strongly, and I think
- 37:13Speaker 2: sometimes that can happen, like right out of a relationship
- 37:16Speaker 2: and jump into something too fast. Man, woman, My issue
- 37:19Speaker 2: was always the age gap with them. She didn't mention that,
- 37:23Speaker 2: but for her, I just think Morgan got over it
- 37:28Speaker 2: and was like, I.
- 37:29Speaker 1: Don't want to do this.
- 37:30Speaker 3: That's what Amy Phillips said too.
- 37:32Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she Morgan is the one that was like, yeah,
- 37:34Speaker 1: this was fun, but.
- 37:35Speaker 3: Like wow, that's exactly what Amy said. I think you
- 37:38Speaker 3: guys are right.
- 37:40Speaker 1: Broke broke Call's heart right, oh man, and decided it's
- 37:44Speaker 1: not worth it.
- 37:45Speaker 2: This this getting these like middle aged women the Bravo
- 37:49Speaker 2: bands coming to me.
- 37:51Speaker 1: I don't I don't need it. That's not the fan
- 37:53Speaker 1: base I want. Yeah.
- 37:56Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like she probably thought, you know what, I've
- 37:58Speaker 3: probably squeezed all of the notoriety out of this moment.
- 38:03Speaker 3: Whether she meant to or not, whether she really understood
- 38:06Speaker 3: what it would meant, I'll give it to her. She
- 38:08Speaker 3: may not have, you know, but yeah, it's definitely a
- 38:12Speaker 3: good out to be like, you know what, I can't
- 38:17Speaker 3: do that anymore. And then yeah, yeah, it's.
- 38:21Speaker 2: Because Kyle's not going to say okay, I'll quit the
- 38:23Speaker 2: show to be with you.
- 38:25Speaker 3: No, I mean listen, it's not she has the money.
- 38:31Speaker 3: I think that Kyle. I maybe Kyle's saying this a
- 38:37Speaker 3: little bit to save face as well regarding her.
- 38:40Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be. Yeah, she just let out broke
- 38:43Speaker 1: up with me.
- 38:43Speaker 3: That's the truth, right.
- 38:45Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 38:46Speaker 3: So it's probably, like most things, a combination. But yeah,
- 38:49Speaker 3: I think you guys are onto something that it's this
- 38:52Speaker 3: was a Morgan being really ready to move on and
- 38:56Speaker 3: because she could have figured it out if she wasn't,
- 38:58Speaker 3: and she would have.
- 39:00Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 39:00Speaker 2: Now Erica said she might or might not visit Tom
- 39:04Speaker 2: in jail unclear. Oy, I mean, listen, I'm not in
- 39:09Speaker 2: that relationship. I don't know what that could be like
- 39:11Speaker 2: to be so hoodwinked by somebody or whatever whatever the
- 39:16Speaker 2: case may be. It is not the person she married.
- 39:20Speaker 2: This is an entirely different person. But you would have
- 39:22Speaker 2: been actually taking care of this person instead of being
- 39:25Speaker 2: taken care of by the state of California.
- 39:27Speaker 1: But the right move is to visit him in jail.
- 39:32Speaker 2: Just Erica doesn't always see the big picture of what
- 39:37Speaker 2: things look like, you know, like to the world, like
- 39:39Speaker 2: to the world, it's gonna look better if you go.
- 39:42Speaker 1: Visit him in jail just to say will it.
- 39:45Speaker 2: Yeah, she was married to him for like twenty years,
- 39:49Speaker 2: she should go.
- 39:50Speaker 3: And like, I don't care personally if she sees him
- 39:54Speaker 3: in jail, I don't stand in Listen. What I believe
- 40:01Speaker 3: about Erica, and I believe this down to the bottom
- 40:05Speaker 3: of my core, is that she had this opportunity to
- 40:14Speaker 3: live a lifestyle that was completely out of her all
- 40:20Speaker 3: possibility is growing up and in her life when she
- 40:23Speaker 3: was cocktailing and raising her son and met Tom. Yes,
- 40:28Speaker 3: I think she believed she deserved that life. I do
- 40:33Speaker 3: not think she gives a shit about those victims. I
- 40:38Speaker 3: really don't. I don't think she cares about anyone else
- 40:43Speaker 3: other than herself, and I think she would have done
- 40:47Speaker 3: anything to maintain her lifestyle. So whether or not she
- 40:55Speaker 3: knew exactly what was going on, No, I don't think
- 40:58Speaker 3: she knew exactly what was going on. But she's very bright,
- 41:02Speaker 3: very very astute and bright, and she listens to everything
- 41:07Speaker 3: and like, do you remember that like a season ago
- 41:10Speaker 3: where they were on vacation and she was drunk at
- 41:13Speaker 3: dinner and she was rattling off all those like historical
- 41:17Speaker 3: facts to those strangers. If you remember it like it was.
- 41:20Speaker 3: I'm it's forever ago. So but it was in that moment.
- 41:24Speaker 3: I'm like, Oh, she's whip smart and she listens to everything.
- 41:29Speaker 3: And I believe that she had a blind eye to
- 41:38Speaker 3: Tom's conduct. And I don't think she cared.
- 41:42Speaker 1: Well. I think it's like kyl ursio.
- 41:44Speaker 2: It's just sort of like, don't bring it home, don't
- 41:46Speaker 2: let me see it, don't tell me anything.
- 41:49Speaker 1: I don't want to know, right, but I know.
- 41:52Speaker 2: And I think when she left him, I something in
- 41:57Speaker 2: me says, somehow she had to have known this shit
- 41:59Speaker 2: was going out and that's why.
- 42:00Speaker 1: She left him. Oh, of course, because it did. It
- 42:03Speaker 1: did happen like several months later. It wasn't like right away.
- 42:06Speaker 2: But where she left him, she immediately started in on
- 42:09Speaker 2: always banging this judge.
- 42:10Speaker 1: And da da da da.
- 42:12Speaker 2: She started that campaign. I think you're writing that she
- 42:16Speaker 2: doesn't care about the victims at all. I think at all.
- 42:19Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.
- 42:20Speaker 2: I don't think it occurs to her that like what
- 42:23Speaker 2: he did in those I think it occurs to her
- 42:26Speaker 2: that she was embarrassed and her life had to change.
- 42:29Speaker 3: Yes, and she affected, and she's in like she has
- 42:32Speaker 3: lawsuits and all of that is.
- 42:35Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I do think she should say goodbye.
- 42:41Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not waiting on it. I think that
- 42:48Speaker 3: how are you waiting on it? Have you been waiting
- 42:50Speaker 3: on it?
- 42:51Speaker 1: No?
- 42:52Speaker 2: I just want her to say she I just want
- 42:54Speaker 2: her to say I did. I went to the prison
- 42:56Speaker 2: and I saw him. It's not good. This is not
- 42:58Speaker 2: the person I'm married. This is not the person I know.
- 43:00Speaker 2: He didn't know me. I've got the closure I needed.
- 43:03Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to remember the good times, and
- 43:06Speaker 2: I think optically for the world that would be a
- 43:09Speaker 2: good thing for her to do. But I mean the
- 43:12Speaker 2: way that she behaved after everything with downwa times, like
- 43:14Speaker 2: I don't get a fuck about anybody but me and
- 43:16Speaker 2: all that. You know, that wasn't great. So now we
- 43:20Speaker 2: need to sort of step away from that and show
- 43:24Speaker 2: that maybe you at least cared about him to say.
- 43:28Speaker 3: I mean, I personally don't think she owes him that, okay,
- 43:32Speaker 3: because what he did was disgusting and egregious. I don't
- 43:39Speaker 3: think she owes him anything in terms of a visit.
- 43:45Speaker 3: You know, I feel like things right here, but like, yeah,
- 43:52Speaker 3: I think he deserves to rot.
- 43:55Speaker 1: You're right, I changed my mind see is that easy?
- 44:00Speaker 1: It's that easy.
- 44:02Speaker 3: I think she's I think that one of the reasons
- 44:04Speaker 3: she wouldn't is also because of perception. She's just gotten
- 44:09Speaker 3: out of people coming for her. So like, I think
- 44:14Speaker 3: part of that is, like I don't even want to
- 44:16Speaker 3: touch this and stir it back up again, you know.
- 44:22Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I also don't know what she
- 44:25Speaker 3: would get out of it, because.
- 44:27Speaker 2: Well, like she said to Sudden, it's not like I'm
- 44:29Speaker 2: going to show up, but he's immediately tell me all
- 44:31Speaker 2: these answers, right, you know, he's not going to open
- 44:35Speaker 2: up and tell me why he did all these things.
- 44:37Speaker 2: You know, there's not going to be there will be
- 44:39Speaker 2: no closure.
- 44:41Speaker 3: I don't think that's a closure. And I also would
- 44:44Speaker 3: be curious as to what she knows anyway, But that's
- 44:47Speaker 3: just me. Listen, it's possible she doesn't. I just think
- 44:53Speaker 3: she has told us who she is and that's it.
- 44:57Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, let's see Erica.
- 45:02Speaker 1: Okay, listen, Jari bugs me.
- 45:04Speaker 2: She's always bugged me, and this particular episode, she bugged me,
- 45:08Speaker 2: and it was a moment where she where she shouldn't
- 45:10Speaker 2: have bugged me. It should have been a moment where
- 45:11Speaker 2: I had some empathy for her, but I didn't because
- 45:14Speaker 2: she was being She's so dramatic. Little Jagger looking at
- 45:20Speaker 2: me and I don't even recognize my child talking about Harry.
- 45:25Speaker 1: Thank you. P K was never around.
- 45:28Speaker 2: These kids' lives haven't changed massively in the fact that
- 45:32Speaker 2: that like both parents were always at home and now
- 45:36Speaker 2: one parent is just never there. It's not like a
- 45:39Speaker 2: huge and I think, like Rachel Zoe's saying with Rog,
- 45:43Speaker 2: same idea, like nothing really has changed. He thinks he
- 45:47Speaker 2: didn't help a lot before.
- 45:48Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, I don't know about that. I think Rog
- 45:51Speaker 3: was there with it.
- 45:52Speaker 1: He was there, he was there, but I don't.
- 45:55Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is I don't think that one
- 45:57Speaker 2: day she looked at Jagger and said, and Jagger all
- 46:00Speaker 2: of a sudden is like gone into a depression because
- 46:04Speaker 2: he misses his dad. I think his dad is always
- 46:07Speaker 2: in Europe doing god knows what.
- 46:11Speaker 3: And I think this has been fot I mean months
- 46:13Speaker 3: have gone by, right, like I think, well.
- 46:16Speaker 2: That's again, and then to be like the whole thing
- 46:19Speaker 2: was Kyle, and I felt Kyle's in this situation where
- 46:22Speaker 2: she was explaining, like he just wants to go to
- 46:25Speaker 2: be with my parents. In Florida and be around a
- 46:27Speaker 2: male figure and whatever, and my parents want to take him,
- 46:29Speaker 2: and now he says no, he's coming to take.
- 46:31Speaker 1: The kids, blah blah blah. And Kyle was like, Okay.
- 46:33Speaker 2: Well, I'm just trying to think of like away in
- 46:35Speaker 2: the middle where it doesn't get to start a fight, like, yeah,
- 46:38Speaker 2: they go to Florida, but also he could come to
- 46:39Speaker 2: Florida and see them there and then if the only
- 46:41Speaker 2: season for one day, that's on him. But I felt
- 46:44Speaker 2: Kyle's point of like, try to meet in the middle
- 46:47Speaker 2: so everything is not a battle.
- 46:49Speaker 1: I know.
- 46:51Speaker 3: I agree. I think it was just for delivery. She
- 46:54Speaker 3: didn't need to say. She said something along the lines
- 46:58Speaker 3: of like I don't know if he's a bad person
- 46:59Speaker 3: or some right, Like she said something like that and
- 47:02Speaker 3: then went into it. That's what triggered her because she's
- 47:06Speaker 3: sticking up for him. Yeah, and in that moment, Deirit
- 47:12Speaker 3: didn't need that at that moment.
- 47:14Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, like I said, I could see both
- 47:17Speaker 2: sides work. But I think Durit is so overly dramatic
- 47:21Speaker 2: and cries with no tears. She just irritates me. Yeah,
- 47:25Speaker 2: she just irritates me.
- 47:27Speaker 3: And because she's Delulu and dramatic. And I do think
- 47:32Speaker 3: that she has been living the Delulu lifestyle for years.
- 47:38Speaker 3: And I think what we're seeing right now is like
- 47:40Speaker 3: the veil lifting and her looking at that person and
- 47:43Speaker 3: her life, and I think she's going through it for
- 47:46Speaker 3: real because she's been in a bubble of designer clothes
- 47:50Speaker 3: and skulls, and you know, she hasn't been dropped into
- 47:57Speaker 3: like what is you know.
- 48:01Speaker 2: I do wonder what will happen there, because you know
- 48:06Speaker 2: it's all her stuff going to go on the real real,
- 48:08Speaker 2: you know, because you know every by all accounts, everything
- 48:12Speaker 2: she does buy Israel, and she does buy off the
- 48:15Speaker 2: rack and she sings a Gucciese suit and she just.
- 48:17Speaker 3: Buys it, you know, with what money.
- 48:20Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 48:20Speaker 2: I guess maxing out every credit card you've ever had.
- 48:23Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I guess I.
- 48:24Speaker 2: Too could get a huge wardrobe, but it would take
- 48:28Speaker 2: about two days to max out my card and then
- 48:30Speaker 2: what you know.
- 48:31Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't seem like the funds are a veil,
- 48:35Speaker 3: you know, like.
- 48:36Speaker 2: Well, no, I mean he's been sued by Caesar's and
- 48:39Speaker 2: everybody else, and so yeah, that's not going to go.
- 48:44Speaker 3: Well, what Their nickname for each other.
- 48:47Speaker 2: Was Bubby Bubba, Bubby Bubba, Bubba bubba, bubby.
- 48:54Speaker 3: Going bubby, I think it's bubba, yeah, bubba. Yeah. I
- 49:00Speaker 3: was trying to remember that the other day, like what
- 49:01Speaker 3: did they call each other?
- 49:04Speaker 2: Yeah, because not to be confused with Schwartz and Katie Bubba, right,
- 49:08Speaker 2: this was more of a bubby boat of British accent
- 49:10Speaker 2: BUBBAA yeah.
- 49:13Speaker 3: I never connected the Shorts and Katie Bubba with their bubba.
- 49:16Speaker 3: Those were such different bubbas to me.
- 49:18Speaker 2: You know, once seems a little plash and one seems down
- 49:21Speaker 2: to gut her.
- 49:22Speaker 1: Yeah, which is which?
- 49:24Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 49:25Speaker 2: Okay, Now, Rachel Zoe I met her. I met her
- 49:28Speaker 2: at Bravo Con just like on the carpet, you know.
- 49:31Speaker 2: Back she it was the only time I ever stood
- 49:34Speaker 2: in line, and it was in the Viking room and
- 49:37Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I'm going to get in line,
- 49:38Speaker 2: and they started doing like four minutes. We have three minutes,
- 49:41Speaker 2: and then they're letting you know, they're going to cut
- 49:42Speaker 2: the line off, and INGERD and I were like, listen,
- 49:45Speaker 2: we was standing this line for twenty minutes. We have
- 49:47Speaker 2: we were not line standards. I cannot cut this line off.
- 49:50Speaker 2: And he's like, I got you, girl, and then she
- 49:52Speaker 2: let us get up there and then like right behind us,
- 49:54Speaker 2: they cut the line off.
- 49:56Speaker 1: Rachel Zoe.
- 49:57Speaker 2: I mean, I was like, I'm fast and fast, I'm
- 49:59Speaker 2: not going to talk or anything to love you take
- 50:00Speaker 2: a picture and run off like I'm not going to talk.
- 50:02Speaker 2: You know, I'm not going to give her my life story,
- 50:04Speaker 2: like who cares? But she did seem to be stunned, stunned.
- 50:10Speaker 3: As to what's happened in her life that you're in.
- 50:13Speaker 2: A headlight that I'm in a VIP room standing, Yeah,
- 50:16Speaker 2: people are running up to be taken, like but Nana's.
- 50:20Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well here's something I'd like to just shine
- 50:27Speaker 3: a light on. Okay, I know the pink Shads, the
- 50:34Speaker 3: bunkies as it were, are in a stude group. I
- 50:38Speaker 3: know they do their research. I know they're on these
- 50:40Speaker 3: interwebs looking around. I would like everyone to do a
- 50:46Speaker 3: bit of a deep dive on Rachel Zoe's business and
- 50:51Speaker 3: sort of how she's conducted herself in business. I participated
- 50:59Speaker 3: in that Box of Zo, but but it was called
- 51:03Speaker 3: Curator when I got to it.
- 51:05Speaker 2: Okay, box, and I feel like I also did, like
- 51:08Speaker 2: briefly and then that like wasn't worth it.
- 51:10Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I did it during the pandemic
- 51:13Speaker 3: and nothing brought me Like when that box arrived once
- 51:17Speaker 3: a month, it was everything to me, Like it was
- 51:21Speaker 3: you know, when we were starved for that box coming
- 51:26Speaker 3: with goodies was like my whole life truly. And then
- 51:32Speaker 3: everything went steeply downhill with the quality and the delivery dates,
- 51:38Speaker 3: and then they were recycling things that we'd already had
- 51:42Speaker 3: and there was no new stuff on the website. It
- 51:43Speaker 3: was bad, like it was like the end of a
- 51:46Speaker 3: season and like for the holiday season. I was counting
- 51:52Speaker 3: and so were the other people on because that's the
- 51:56Speaker 3: crazy thing about getting a box like that is you
- 51:59Speaker 3: hyper focus on these items that are coming to you.
- 52:03Speaker 3: They become important in a way that's weird, you know, Yes,
- 52:08Speaker 3: it is like it's weird. You're like, well, I need
- 52:12Speaker 3: that bag to go to this party in this part
- 52:14Speaker 3: like it's like think you are bookmarking it. Yeah so
- 52:19Speaker 3: I but I ended up bouncing because it just went down.
- 52:23Speaker 3: But then there's a girl online, she's on TikTok. She
- 52:27Speaker 3: does a lot of deep dives into business practices. Yes,
- 52:32Speaker 3: thank you, Yes I know her. Yes, yeah, and she's
- 52:35Speaker 3: taken down Bethany.
- 52:36Speaker 2: I believe she has taken down Rachel Zoe more than once.
- 52:40Speaker 3: Well she did a nice but you know, so yesterday
- 52:45Speaker 3: I saw that she's given over her company or partnered
- 52:52Speaker 3: with these guys like the Gordon Brothers or something like that. Okay,
- 52:57Speaker 3: she just posted it yesterday. Rachel Zoe brand gets snapped
- 53:00Speaker 3: up by Gordon Brothers.
- 53:02Speaker 1: The whole brand.
- 53:04Speaker 3: But let me tell you that I knew, like because
- 53:10Speaker 3: her I don't. I don't think her fashion line is
- 53:14Speaker 3: it didn't go like it's so hard to make, but
- 53:17Speaker 3: like there's no Rachel. There was like a pop up,
- 53:19Speaker 3: there was a store at the Grove at one point.
- 53:23Speaker 3: I just don't think that line was too expensive and
- 53:26Speaker 3: not relatable to people. And then her home good stuff
- 53:31Speaker 3: and her all that Rachel Zoe content, that's all branding.
- 53:35Speaker 3: So none of that's real. It's none of that's her product.
- 53:39Speaker 3: That's her licensing her name that they can slap on
- 53:43Speaker 3: and she's going, yeah, we'll do this one and this
- 53:44Speaker 3: one and this one. I don't know how much you
- 53:47Speaker 3: get for that, you know, but I can say from
- 53:50Speaker 3: this box experience, you know, she was also doing these
- 53:56Speaker 3: lavish parties with all of these stunning a white influencers
- 54:02Speaker 3: and doing these big reveals of the box, and like
- 54:07Speaker 3: the people paying for it, we're not getting theirs. So
- 54:10Speaker 3: it was just wild. But your girl, miss Lynch, has
- 54:17Speaker 3: done some really heavy dives on her, and I think
- 54:20Speaker 3: that half of the reason she's on this show is
- 54:23Speaker 3: because she is run her business into the ground.
- 54:27Speaker 1: She needs the money.
- 54:29Speaker 3: I think she needs. Yes, I think she needs the
- 54:32Speaker 3: infusion of interest the money, And I think something like
- 54:37Speaker 3: this is probably very smart because she does need the
- 54:40Speaker 3: brand to be taken over. I do think, and I
- 54:42Speaker 3: think her husband probably was helping her, although I don't know.
- 54:46Speaker 1: Well, he was the business part and she's the creative part.
- 54:48Speaker 3: Well let's blame Roger helping or hurting. I don't know.
- 54:53Speaker 2: Is he adjacent to your Bethdy I mean something like that, Yeah,
- 54:57Speaker 2: very possibly.
- 55:00Speaker 1: That is very interesting.
- 55:01Speaker 2: And I think when Meredith posted something about the Rachel
- 55:04Speaker 2: So thing, I told her I was like, oh, I
- 55:06Speaker 2: used to get that box, and she was like and
- 55:07Speaker 2: then it went to shit. I was like, yeah, I
- 55:08Speaker 2: think I remember being I can't remember it as clearly
- 55:11Speaker 2: as you can. Yeah, I can't remember getting it and
- 55:14Speaker 2: then thinking like, I think they sent me this same
- 55:16Speaker 2: stuff lot last month, and I think I also told
- 55:19Speaker 2: Meredith that I liked a fat fit fun and she
- 55:21Speaker 2: was like absolutely.
- 55:22Speaker 1: Not okay, and so I stopped. Yeah, I was like, hey,
- 55:25Speaker 1: I want to do it.
- 55:26Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd love a curated box of something to come
- 55:29Speaker 3: to me. But you know, I don't know what I
- 55:31Speaker 3: don't want to get.
- 55:32Speaker 1: I get stitch fixed.
- 55:33Speaker 3: My husband does. He's done stitch fix a handful of
- 55:36Speaker 3: times and it's been fabulous.
- 55:39Speaker 2: I can't imagine how great it would be like if
- 55:41Speaker 2: my husband got it, but he doesn't need more closed,
- 55:43Speaker 2: but he would love it too.
- 55:44Speaker 3: Yeah, Like Wing is not a big shopper, so they
- 55:47Speaker 3: have gotten him and it's more. You know, he's a
- 55:49Speaker 3: little cheap in that area, so it's been nice to have.
- 55:52Speaker 3: Like you're gonna pick things that someone sent you in
- 55:56Speaker 3: a box over going to a store and being like
- 55:59Speaker 3: that's true spensive.
- 56:00Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because sometimes you put it on and
- 56:02Speaker 2: you get it and you're like, oh, I love that
- 56:04Speaker 2: thought about that. But let's go listen of the five
- 56:06Speaker 2: things stitch Fixed sends me every month.
- 56:08Speaker 1: Generally, do generally else, generally, Oh okay.
- 56:14Speaker 2: Yeah, generally every so often, I'll keep two things and
- 56:17Speaker 2: it's fine, it's okay, you just send back four things
- 56:19Speaker 2: and then you keep the one and wow, I said,
- 56:23Speaker 2: But then you've got something and you're like, okay. I
- 56:25Speaker 2: wouldn't have thought about that, but it did. They sent
- 56:28Speaker 2: me this last one. It was like a fleecy sweatshirt
- 56:34Speaker 2: thing that was like a green that I wouldn't normally pick,
- 56:36Speaker 2: but it ended up looking good. But it had like
- 56:38Speaker 2: a big high turtleneck thing, which normally I would be like, no,
- 56:41Speaker 2: that's going to make me hot.
- 56:43Speaker 1: I don't I don't want it.
- 56:45Speaker 2: But then I put it on and I was like, well,
- 56:47Speaker 2: you this doesn't look amazing.
- 56:50Speaker 3: Damn If I don't look just startling in that looks
- 56:53Speaker 3: so cute, and this sweatshirt okay, well that is really fun.
- 56:58Speaker 2: And then I go and look and if it's like
- 57:00Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty dollars, then it's a no okay.
- 57:03Speaker 2: But if it's like a sixty eight dollars that I'm like,
- 57:05Speaker 2: all right.
- 57:07Speaker 3: Staying with, staying right here, stay right here.
- 57:10Speaker 1: Let's cute enough. So I do like that, but I do.
- 57:12Speaker 2: If Merredith is listening, I'm sorry, but I I do
- 57:16Speaker 2: think something happened. Then she says no to any box.
- 57:20Speaker 2: No boxes, no boxes, no boxes.
- 57:22Speaker 3: Oh my god, Okay bye.
- 57:25Speaker 2: Because she says that it's all like a racket and
- 57:28Speaker 2: it's a markup, and then they get old stuff and whatever.
- 57:30Speaker 2: She was very very into, especially the makeup boxes, because
- 57:33Speaker 2: there was another makeup box that came for a while
- 57:37Speaker 2: and I learned about it from my daughter and I
- 57:39Speaker 2: started getting it. It's same thing after like a few months.
- 57:42Speaker 2: You're like so exciting to get this new mascara or whatever,
- 57:45Speaker 2: and then they start sending you the same things or
- 57:47Speaker 2: you're like how many how many canners do I need?
- 57:52Speaker 1: Exactly?
- 57:52Speaker 3: You can't go through stuff like that. That's what I
- 57:56Speaker 3: did like about the Rachel Curator box of Zoe type
- 58:00Speaker 3: box is that yes, okay, so you would get a
- 58:03Speaker 3: variety of things. So you would get a facial something,
- 58:06Speaker 3: some sort of skincare and some sort of bag and
- 58:09Speaker 3: some sort of costume jewelry and some sort of other thing,
- 58:12Speaker 3: but then like how many totes can you have and
- 58:18Speaker 3: how many pretty jewelry trays are you gonna use? And
- 58:23Speaker 3: so it did get repetitive in that way. But I
- 58:26Speaker 3: thought the skincare by and large was like excellent until
- 58:31Speaker 3: it wasn't.
- 58:32Speaker 2: Yeah, and then something happened. Well, that's interesting that she
- 58:34Speaker 2: got bought.
- 58:35Speaker 3: I actually feel like this is a very good thing
- 58:41Speaker 3: for her because I think she does have a brand
- 58:45Speaker 3: name and this. I also love looking at her. I
- 58:49Speaker 3: love what she puts together. I find it, you know,
- 58:55Speaker 3: although she has like a lot of it looks similar.
- 58:58Speaker 3: I do find her style to be like interesting, Like
- 59:02Speaker 3: I like the necklaces. I like what she puts together.
- 59:05Speaker 3: And Bravo, she was in that white suit right that
- 59:09Speaker 3: just looks so expensive and like amazing. I just I'm
- 59:13Speaker 3: interested to see what she puts together on this show.
- 59:15Speaker 1: You know, I'm interested.
- 59:17Speaker 2: I liked her going to Kathy Hilton's house and being like, no, no, check, no, no,
- 59:22Speaker 2: You've got to carry this bag. I know that it's
- 59:24Speaker 2: an extra twenty seven pounds of leather. You're going to
- 59:26Speaker 2: have to carry this because this is the bag you
- 59:28Speaker 2: carry when you're.
- 59:30Speaker 3: And that's that.
- 59:31Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like I have my grocery bag that I carry.
- 59:34Speaker 3: Katy She's like, I'm Kathy Hilton.
- 59:36Speaker 2: She's like, I just carry that bag for moms, and
- 59:40Speaker 2: that's my bag. Say I pulled out of California reference Okay, okay,
- 59:47Speaker 2: so Salt Lake City. I want to talk about Meredith
- 59:51Speaker 2: crying and Greece for no reason. And I really liked that.
- 59:54Speaker 2: All the other women are like, who cares that we're
- 59:58Speaker 2: in Greece on Mother's Day? We knew we would be
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: here on Mother's Day and we all agreed to it.
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: When we agreed to do the filming, we all knew
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: it was going to be Mother's Day. We all agreed
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: to it, and I love it. The rest of them
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: are like, fuck those kids, Like who can Greece the
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: Mother's Day? They can call me. It's about me, It's
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: not about them. Is like, I'm just not going to
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: go doctor Brooks. I was like, don't you have four kids?
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: You only care about Brooks?
- 1:00:23Speaker 3: Well, there's that. I mean, I think she was in
- 1:00:26Speaker 3: such a drop you know from all I love that
- 1:00:30Speaker 3: you have that. I think it was I the one
- 1:00:34Speaker 3: who shared that with you, or do you know you
- 1:00:36Speaker 3: shared it with me? Oh yeah, yeah, I shared it
- 1:00:38Speaker 3: with you. I like me about but it's good to see.
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: And then we talked about it and then they said me.
- 1:00:43Speaker 3: And then they sent and then they sent me because
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: of your chef. Yeah, thank you, thank you. I wonder
- 1:00:49Speaker 3: if we're gonna we're not getting a box of Zo's
- 1:00:51Speaker 3: that much, I know after this, but I've opened to
- 1:00:56Speaker 3: a box if anyone want says any something. But I
- 1:01:00Speaker 3: think that call. I think she was just pummeled by
- 1:01:06Speaker 3: Heather and Company for a couple of days in a row,
- 1:01:10Speaker 3: and she just wanted to talk to her kid like.
- 1:01:13Speaker 3: So I don't know, had she'd been in better graces
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: with everyone up until that point, I don't know if
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: that call from Brooks would have been as meaningful. But
- 1:01:25Speaker 3: I think she just needed, like to touch base with
- 1:01:28Speaker 3: someone who loved her.
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 1:01:32Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I kind of understood it.
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: I didn't.
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: I didn't understand it at all. And then they're at
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: that cookie thing and the man comes over. He's like,
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: are you okay?
- 1:01:42Speaker 3: Amazing? That was amazing. He was like, I want to
- 1:01:46Speaker 3: go to Greece. A I need to go to Greece.
- 1:01:49Speaker 3: After that episode, it was.
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: Stunning, stunning. Every view was better than Oh.
- 1:01:55Speaker 3: My god, every view. The water, the food looked insane.
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: Food, and they were like I loved how Agi was like,
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: they're eating lunch and she was let's talk about dinner.
- 1:02:06Speaker 3: Yeah, it's what I wanted to talk about, like, because
- 1:02:10Speaker 3: everything looks so fresh. It looks like you're not going
- 1:02:12Speaker 3: to gain a pound. You're walking everywhere. I'm not worried
- 1:02:15Speaker 3: about like there's no pounds being gained on that trip.
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: You're you're walking away less like it's literally the Mediterranean diet.
- 1:02:22Speaker 3: Literally the Mediterranean diet.
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: Yea.
- 1:02:25Speaker 3: And the shops just looked amazing, Like I wanted to
- 1:02:29Speaker 3: be in those little white shops with the blue accents everywhere,
- 1:02:33Speaker 3: and it just was a great trip. I'm like, I'm
- 1:02:36Speaker 3: so happy to be on this trip.
- 1:02:38Speaker 2: You know, they were just on that other trip, was
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: thinking about that today.
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: They were in that island on that boat.
- 1:02:46Speaker 3: Oh my god, you're right. Yeah, that was great too, Okay,
- 1:02:49Speaker 3: And you know what, Saltic City deserves it because they
- 1:02:52Speaker 3: at one point could not get out of Salt Lake City.
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: They were like, we're going to Saint George.
- 1:02:58Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, you know what they deserve Greece, and they
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: deserve to be on that yacht because they've earned it.
- 1:03:05Speaker 3: A and B they could. They were at that Trixie motel,
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: which was bleak love tricksy to death, but you know,
- 1:03:15Speaker 3: and then they.
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: They always going by sprinter vand yeah.
- 1:03:20Speaker 3: Never, we're never going up. We're just like going over,
- 1:03:24Speaker 3: and so it was nice. It was really nice for
- 1:03:29Speaker 3: them to get up and out. So that's why it
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: was kind of hard. I think Meredith was like bumming
- 1:03:36Speaker 3: us out, and I'm like, girl, your energy is a
- 1:03:39Speaker 3: black hole. You're sucking me down into it. Please look
- 1:03:42Speaker 3: at the natural surroundings and gather yourself.
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: Well, they all kept going, none of us are going
- 1:03:47Speaker 2: to be upset. Look around. We're in Greece. And I
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: loved how light and airy Whitney has been on this trip.
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: She has been just a joy.
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: When she pretended to be a shot put and fling
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: her purse and then Heather picks up, it was like gold.
- 1:04:03Speaker 3: I was like, this is like, oh I broke it.
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: Yeah, this is amazing.
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: And I liked how Brittany, once again coming with the
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: ridiculousness is just what we need, and her saying she
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: has trademarked high body count hair even though that's not
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: even a phrase she made up or Angie made up.
- 1:04:20Speaker 3: And is that a real phrase Outside of the show.
- 1:04:24Speaker 2: I've heard high body count, this, high body count that,
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: so I'm sure high body count hair has been out.
- 1:04:29Speaker 3: There, but I think that I think that I don't
- 1:04:33Speaker 3: give that to Angree. I don't think high body count
- 1:04:35Speaker 3: hair has been out there before.
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: Okay, well she said, she goes, I didn't even make
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: it up. Oh she said that either way, it doesn't
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: matter because Britney jumped on it, and I think it
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: was like, you're just sorry you forgot to trademark it.
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: So I'm going to get those T shirts like, Okay.
- 1:04:50Speaker 3: Well, you thirsty little little menace to society.
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: I thought it was hilarious, and then I loved how
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: Whitney stood up and goes, Okay, we're gonna squash this
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: and we're not gonna talk about it anymore because look
- 1:05:05Speaker 2: where we are.
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: I'm just so happy about it. And Meredith.
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: The Britney Angie thing over high body count here did
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: lift Meredith's spirit.
- 1:05:15Speaker 3: Yeah, everyally did.
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: She got happier because now Brittany did another ridiculous thing.
- 1:05:20Speaker 3: Yes, it gave everyone a lift except for Angie. It
- 1:05:24Speaker 3: gave everyone else a lift. When Yeah, when Meredith I
- 1:05:28Speaker 3: came out in her little swimsuit cover up, sich and
- 1:05:32Speaker 3: she was ready to have a nice time in the pool.
- 1:05:34Speaker 3: I said praise you Jesus, because I couldn't take any
- 1:05:37Speaker 3: more of her sad, sack energy. I was like, I
- 1:05:41Speaker 3: get why you feel ganged up on, you have been,
- 1:05:45Speaker 3: but at this point, like can we have some fun
- 1:05:48Speaker 3: in Greece or yeah, they have a great day, even
- 1:05:51Speaker 3: Mary Cosby just oh Mary's doing great.
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: Mary, She's having a blast.
- 1:05:57Speaker 3: I'm like, who were you before? To me? Like, Mary is.
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: So like why was she like that before? And now
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: she's so different?
- 1:06:06Speaker 3: I listen. What I do think about Mary is that
- 1:06:14Speaker 3: what she says, she stands by when she's like, you
- 1:06:18Speaker 3: need to if you don't like something, say it. You
- 1:06:20Speaker 3: know you have a problem with someone, say it to
- 1:06:22Speaker 3: their face. I'm like, when Mary's not happy, she says it,
- 1:06:28Speaker 3: we are just I think that she didn't care. It
- 1:06:33Speaker 3: was also Genshaw times and her and Jen had beef.
- 1:06:37Speaker 3: I think she didn't. I think Jenshaw was probably a
- 1:06:39Speaker 3: big reason why she was not comfortable in the group,
- 1:06:43Speaker 3: and like you know, she just her husband grandfather isn't
- 1:06:48Speaker 3: there anymore, which I think lightens the load. You know,
- 1:06:51Speaker 3: it's hard to be on there with your husband grandfather
- 1:06:54Speaker 3: and like it's nice that he is off. I think
- 1:06:57Speaker 3: she's freed up by that.
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: I think he just fully lives in Florida. And she's like, great,
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: great here, yeah.
- 1:07:05Speaker 3: No problem. I mean that's a weight off your shoulders.
- 1:07:08Speaker 3: You know that she doesn't have to.
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: Like deal with him and his weirdness.
- 1:07:14Speaker 3: And be in the house and avoid him. I mean, right,
- 1:07:18Speaker 3: So I think she has genuinely taken some time to
- 1:07:21Speaker 3: settle in with the gang. But god, she is the breeziest,
- 1:07:26Speaker 3: most rational, most hilarious, Like, yeah, square face is what
- 1:07:33Speaker 3: did she say?
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: No, you're saying that, you know.
- 1:07:36Speaker 2: Or it's just like if you have a hat that
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: can wear if you can wear a bucket hat, right,
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: then you have certain kinds. Then you have bucket face.
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: You have bucket face. But but she's like, look at me,
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: look at me, look at me. Yes, bucket no, bucket yes,
- 1:07:53Speaker 2: bucket no. No, Yeah, you can't wear a bucket. She
- 1:07:56Speaker 2: was like, because my face is this, and I can't
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: wear a bucket. She can't wear a bucket?
- 1:07:59Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I didn't know this. This is hard to
- 1:08:02Speaker 3: wear a bucket. I think buckets are hard in general.
- 1:08:05Speaker 3: You know, I think I always gravitate towards a bucket
- 1:08:09Speaker 3: because they do, like it, But the truth and reality
- 1:08:12Speaker 3: of a bucket is that it's really hard to pull off.
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: I gravitate towards a bucket, but it does not look
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: good on me. And I haven't learned my lesson. I
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: keep getting them and they're not wearing them.
- 1:08:23Speaker 3: And so here we are. It's like, this is what
- 1:08:25Speaker 3: Mary's trying to communicate out. It's PSA.
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: You know, yes, yes, I listen. I'm fascinated. Now.
- 1:08:33Speaker 2: Am I going to cover that TLC documentary about her
- 1:08:36Speaker 2: and interview the director?
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: Yes, of course I.
- 1:08:38Speaker 3: Am, obviously I am it will you're a professional.
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta see all the sides of it. Yeah,
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: is it going to be great?
- 1:08:45Speaker 3: Are we going to learn that? It's just, you know, terrible.
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: I'm going to have the streamers and I'm going to
- 1:08:52Speaker 2: watch it tonight actually, and I'll I'll send you some
- 1:08:56Speaker 2: text to let you know what I've learned.
- 1:08:58Speaker 3: When the organization has been the leadership has been passed
- 1:09:04Speaker 3: down from grandmother to granddaughter, and then the leadership has
- 1:09:08Speaker 3: also passed down the congregation and the husband to the granddaughter,
- 1:09:14Speaker 3: we've got problems, like we don't even have to look
- 1:09:17Speaker 3: any further. We've got major issues going on.
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen some clips and it's like we were
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: locked in and not allowed to leave until we gave
- 1:09:27Speaker 2: certain amounts of money and things like that.
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: That's not good. So we I'm gonna watch it.
- 1:09:32Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch it with the partner of mind and
- 1:09:34Speaker 2: a love for Mary going in trus.
- 1:09:37Speaker 3: Remember that she's also a victim, that's right. Oh yeah,
- 1:09:41Speaker 3: it has to remember that she was victimized at a
- 1:09:44Speaker 3: very right How old was she when she was put
- 1:09:46Speaker 3: into this position?
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: In her twenties?
- 1:09:48Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so that's bizarre, it is, And so I
- 1:09:53Speaker 3: just want to maintain that as we have to say
- 1:09:57Speaker 3: goodbye to Mary.
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'll let you know. I'll give you. I'll
- 1:10:02Speaker 1: give you.
- 1:10:03Speaker 3: Please tell me, just give me like this, Mary still
- 1:10:05Speaker 3: with us or got to let her go?
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: Yes, right, I want to say that.
- 1:10:11Speaker 2: The only thing I have to say really quickly about
- 1:10:13Speaker 2: Potomac this week is so, I think it was about
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: two weeks ago we had Wendy's mom on talking about
- 1:10:21Speaker 2: how great it was that Wendy was so rich.
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: Look at my bag, look at my belt.
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: Wendy so rich, Wendy can do it all, Wendy can
- 1:10:27Speaker 2: buy it all that wasn't great. And then this week
- 1:10:32Speaker 2: on this latest episode, she and I want to say Todd,
- 1:10:38Speaker 2: just not Todd Eddie. Wendy and Eddie were talking about
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: how expensive the renovation is and how she's just not
- 1:10:44Speaker 2: looking at the bills because you know, once you get
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: over one hundred and fifty k, like what does it
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: really matter? And not relatable and also not great for
- 1:10:55Speaker 2: their court case.
- 1:10:57Speaker 3: Oh, very bad. Also, let's not forget that they that
- 1:11:00Speaker 3: sort of rattled me to the core was her little
- 1:11:04Speaker 3: daughter saying she had four phones.
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: I miss that.
- 1:11:09Speaker 3: Yeah. At the little party that Wendy and Giselle put together,
- 1:11:13Speaker 3: her daughter was like, I have four phones.
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: Okay three of them.
- 1:11:17Speaker 3: Fisher Price, I felt we were with like I don't
- 1:11:22Speaker 3: exactly I felt we were with phone. And I perceive
- 1:11:26Speaker 3: this of every Housewife scandal that we have engaged with,
- 1:11:30Speaker 3: and we've done a lot. We've been doing a lot
- 1:11:32Speaker 3: of heavy lifting in our time.
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: We've talked about two on this show just today.
- 1:11:37Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, this is the biggest thinker. I can't square
- 1:11:44Speaker 3: my mind around Wendy and Eddie, yeah doing this. I
- 1:11:49Speaker 3: just find them to be very good parents. I think
- 1:11:54Speaker 3: they are very reasonable people. I love them together. I
- 1:12:01Speaker 3: love Eddie. I just think that do I think? Could
- 1:12:06Speaker 3: I see like, okay, Wendy has spent too much on
- 1:12:11Speaker 3: clothing and surgeries, yes, but this I just think she's
- 1:12:18Speaker 3: too smart for like, I don't I can't get it right,
- 1:12:22Speaker 3: and I can't get it right that one of them
- 1:12:24Speaker 3: wouldn't stop the other one.
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: I can't get it right that Eddie would put things
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: in writing as a lawyer.
- 1:12:31Speaker 3: Is he a lawyer?
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: He is a lawyer.
- 1:12:35Speaker 2: To email her and say, hey, go in the closet
- 1:12:38Speaker 2: and find some other stuff to stupid.
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: He is a lawyer. She's a professor.
- 1:12:44Speaker 2: She's a public policy politics professor, and he's a lawyer.
- 1:12:48Speaker 3: Well that's the other thing, is like you're racking up
- 1:12:51Speaker 3: these bills and you seem to keep shedding jobs like
- 1:12:54Speaker 3: you don't have. You're not a professor anymore.
- 1:12:57Speaker 1: You are.
- 1:12:58Speaker 3: I don't see you on MSNBC. You. I don't know
- 1:13:01Speaker 3: what's happening with your four degrees. You keep shedding the
- 1:13:06Speaker 3: very prestigious, good paying jobs that they're not you know,
- 1:13:10Speaker 3: over the top money, but they're good money.
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: That yeah you have.
- 1:13:15Speaker 3: You know, you're a professor. So she just may have
- 1:13:19Speaker 3: lost her mind on this stuff and lost her way.
- 1:13:22Speaker 3: But it is, it confuses me to no end. I
- 1:13:26Speaker 3: can't figure it out.
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: I agree, I don't get it at all. Get it.
- 1:13:31Speaker 2: And then the other point on potomach this week that
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: I wanted to discuss was everybody just hates Stacy and
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: it's starting to get hard.
- 1:13:40Speaker 1: It's starting to get rough. Now.
- 1:13:42Speaker 2: I do know that a cab or Amy, you did
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: a little spoof on Stacy and it was great. I
- 1:13:50Speaker 2: didn't know that I needed it, but I needed it.
- 1:13:54Speaker 3: Yeah, Emily Jersus and I we were going to do
- 1:13:58Speaker 3: an auction for Amy, Like we're throwing around some ideas
- 1:14:01Speaker 3: for her products to do like interstitials in the show,
- 1:14:05Speaker 3: and I was like, why don't we do something with
- 1:14:07Speaker 3: the qvs as QBC hosts like Stacy, and so we
- 1:14:12Speaker 3: just and then Emily made those brilliant shirts that were
- 1:14:16Speaker 3: a knockoff of like Stacy's crazy Holloway. I mean, I
- 1:14:23Speaker 3: live for her QBC contract.
- 1:14:25Speaker 2: You guys just looked up Stacy Rush on QBC and yeah,
- 1:14:29Speaker 2: things will pop up and it's hilarious. Now Listen, she's
- 1:14:32Speaker 2: so different than any other QVC hosts.
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: They all do it.
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: Yeah, but she was very good at it, very good.
- 1:14:37Speaker 2: So she knows she's got a job to fall back
- 1:14:39Speaker 2: on if this falls through.
- 1:14:41Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and that's a nice job. She is great
- 1:14:47Speaker 3: at it. That is who she is at her core,
- 1:14:50Speaker 3: which is like I can sell you anything, it doesn't
- 1:14:54Speaker 3: need to be the truth. And I think that's a
- 1:14:56Speaker 3: place where she lives. It's like I will things better
- 1:15:00Speaker 3: than they are and I will sell anything and try
- 1:15:06Speaker 3: to stop me. It's like it's in her DNA. I
- 1:15:11Speaker 3: do love that Wendy loves Stacy. Stacy has brought out
- 1:15:15Speaker 3: a really cute color in Wendy. In my opinion, like
- 1:15:19Speaker 3: Wendy's more giggly and fun around Stacy because they think
- 1:15:22Speaker 3: she just gets a kick out of her.
- 1:15:25Speaker 2: But yeah, you gotta have one Ally on the show.
- 1:15:29Speaker 2: You gotta have one Ally.
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:15:31Speaker 3: I mean she's her Ally and she's stealing her idea.
- 1:15:34Speaker 3: So you know where are I.
- 1:15:39Speaker 2: I will be interested to see at the end of
- 1:15:41Speaker 2: the season when they roll Caaren out for the interview
- 1:15:45Speaker 2: with Andy. Now, we roll her out, we rolled her out,
- 1:15:48Speaker 2: and we will see, we will see. We have seen
- 1:15:53Speaker 2: rather a clip of her saying, you know, basically admitting
- 1:15:57Speaker 2: you know she had a drinking problem, which right, We've
- 1:15:59Speaker 2: been trying to get her to say for like five years.
- 1:16:03Speaker 2: Next stop, she hannova door, but like, you know, it's
- 1:16:07Speaker 2: Tama judge. Like some people might just need to admit
- 1:16:10Speaker 2: they have a little bit of Meredith Mark, Meredith Marks.
- 1:16:13Speaker 2: Now we don't know, we don't know. And another thing,
- 1:16:16Speaker 2: I wonder if Meredith was in a bad mood on
- 1:16:18Speaker 2: this trip because she's unable to reach for what normally
- 1:16:22Speaker 2: would make her feel better, because she's trying to hold
- 1:16:24Speaker 2: it together yea, and not give them any more AMMO
- 1:16:27Speaker 2: against her.
- 1:16:28Speaker 3: I think that's not wrong.
- 1:16:30Speaker 2: Yeah, she's I will tell you that that. At the
- 1:16:34Speaker 2: beginning of this season, more than once when Meredith drove
- 1:16:39Speaker 2: up more than once somebody comment, wow, Meredith, you're driving,
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: and another time like, look at you driving a car.
- 1:16:46Speaker 3: Oh I didn't catch that.
- 1:16:48Speaker 2: Some people are like, oh, it's because she's got this
- 1:16:50Speaker 2: deal with like Lexus or whatever, because she's like, oh,
- 1:16:53Speaker 2: I've got a cooler in the back, you know, for
- 1:16:55Speaker 2: my caviar. But I said to somebody, I think it
- 1:16:59Speaker 2: was Corey Carly. I said this other podcasters, I said,
- 1:17:02Speaker 2: what do you think that's about? And Carly said maybe
- 1:17:06Speaker 2: she doesn't have a license, or maybe she doesn't drive
- 1:17:09Speaker 2: because of the medication she takes, or but they really
- 1:17:14Speaker 2: acted like they've never seen her drive a vehicle.
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: So I found that interesting too. Look at you driving?
- 1:17:20Speaker 3: Look at that? Could you walk in a straight line?
- 1:17:24Speaker 3: Look at you?
- 1:17:26Speaker 2: And every episode, every episode, I can't make head door
- 1:17:29Speaker 2: tails of what she did to her face because she
- 1:17:31Speaker 2: just looks like she's fourteen years old.
- 1:17:33Speaker 3: You'll never understand it because she goes, she vacillates from
- 1:17:37Speaker 3: looking twenty one to fifty eight, you know what I mean?
- 1:17:44Speaker 3: Or but you can't. It can change within a sentence,
- 1:17:50Speaker 3: you know. I mean, her body in that freaking jean
- 1:17:54Speaker 3: skirt and white tank insane. She looked insane her But
- 1:18:00Speaker 3: then and then it's we got the filters that she'll
- 1:18:02Speaker 3: put a she will filter her life away in the
- 1:18:06Speaker 3: on Instagram. I mean, she filters her life away.
- 1:18:10Speaker 2: She makes her face a lot more circular, like tagery line.
- 1:18:15Speaker 3: Like feetus face. It is so crazy high school, yeah,
- 1:18:22Speaker 3: you know, So it's so hard. And I don't know
- 1:18:25Speaker 3: if she's filtering like on her drugs or not, because
- 1:18:29Speaker 3: it's just not regular. You know, she's not doing a
- 1:18:31Speaker 3: dusting I.
- 1:18:33Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think that I might be onto something,
- 1:18:37Speaker 2: that she might be in a bad mood because she's like,
- 1:18:40Speaker 2: I'm not going to bring my happy pills with me
- 1:18:43Speaker 2: because that got me in trouble last time.
- 1:18:46Speaker 1: I don't want to give them any more, ammo.
- 1:18:47Speaker 3: I guess yeah, she does need them.
- 1:18:52Speaker 1: You guys. Speaking of things that we do to make
- 1:18:54Speaker 1: her face look better.
- 1:18:56Speaker 2: Deanna has a wonderful podcast and substack called how to
- 1:19:00Speaker 2: Be less Old.
- 1:19:01Speaker 1: Now.
- 1:19:02Speaker 2: You can go to how to Be less Old and
- 1:19:03Speaker 2: you could find out about the latest phrases that the
- 1:19:05Speaker 2: kids are saying. You could find out about should we
- 1:19:08Speaker 2: still be wearing wide light jeans? You should find out
- 1:19:12Speaker 2: about a face laser. The other day I sent Deanna, Yeah,
- 1:19:15Speaker 2: a face laser and said do I need this? And
- 1:19:17Speaker 2: Deanna said, I don't know her, so I didn't get it.
- 1:19:22Speaker 2: You can find out everything over there, So tell everybody
- 1:19:24Speaker 2: what's happening.
- 1:19:24Speaker 1: Over there right now?
- 1:19:25Speaker 3: Oh gosh, ovens such a good time. How tobe less
- 1:19:28Speaker 3: old dot substack dot com for our written content, and
- 1:19:32Speaker 3: we put our we put our podcast episodes up there.
- 1:19:36Speaker 3: Emily Foster and I we will get down to it.
- 1:19:40Speaker 3: We do the investigating. We recently did a post on
- 1:19:43Speaker 3: like the most popular songs from Spotify from the ages
- 1:19:47Speaker 3: like thirteen to eighteen, what worldwide kids are listening to? Okay,
- 1:19:52Speaker 3: because when we took a look at the list, we
- 1:19:54Speaker 3: were like, we don't know a lot of things, like
- 1:19:58Speaker 3: you know that, okay, everything, but like this is like
- 1:20:02Speaker 3: the top five artists and you know some of them,
- 1:20:06Speaker 3: of course we knew, but then a lot of songs
- 1:20:08Speaker 3: that do. So we put together an app, a teaser,
- 1:20:11Speaker 3: a sampler, pooh poop platter for people to click through listen.
- 1:20:15Speaker 3: There's just stuff that's great that like just how would
- 1:20:19Speaker 3: it get on our radar?
- 1:20:20Speaker 1: You know?
- 1:20:21Speaker 3: And so it's good to know. Did you know that?
- 1:20:26Speaker 3: Like we'll tackle. We tackled a rumor that I'm now
- 1:20:30Speaker 3: seeing out in articles about Timothy Schalla May's rapper persona.
- 1:20:38Speaker 1: I know that headline.
- 1:20:39Speaker 2: I saw a headline about that, So tell me what
- 1:20:41Speaker 2: it is because I love.
- 1:20:44Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:20:45Speaker 1: How do you say?
- 1:20:48Speaker 3: Why do you say?
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: I don't know? I think Ingrid's daughters started saying that.
- 1:20:54Speaker 3: That I fee his next rapper name, but SD kid,
- 1:20:58Speaker 3: it's like speculated and Emily I will give her credit,
- 1:21:02Speaker 3: got on this a while ago and I didn't know
- 1:21:06Speaker 3: what she was talking about at first, but then I
- 1:21:09Speaker 3: started looking into it and read her post, and I'm like,
- 1:21:11Speaker 3: oh shit, I think that is possibly Timothy Chelly h
- 1:21:17Speaker 3: moonlighting as this really popular rapper that his eyes. It's
- 1:21:26Speaker 3: s STI Kid is the name of the rappers. So
- 1:21:31Speaker 3: you know, these are the things we'll get you there
- 1:21:33Speaker 3: before these headlines hit, and you're going to feel in
- 1:21:36Speaker 3: the know. You're going to feel educated, You're going to
- 1:21:38Speaker 3: feel like, Okay, I had oh my god, I'm going
- 1:21:41Speaker 3: to read this because it was so sweet. We had
- 1:21:43Speaker 3: a new comment on our podcast, you know, little rating
- 1:21:48Speaker 3: and review you, and it said, hold on, I'm just
- 1:21:54Speaker 3: going to read it real.
- 1:21:55Speaker 1: Quick, starting a second.
- 1:22:00Speaker 3: But you know what, I think he can do it.
- 1:22:02Speaker 3: To be honest, we've.
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: Seen him wrap on sorry not live.
- 1:22:05Speaker 3: I think he's doing it so like it's already happening
- 1:22:08Speaker 3: and he's having fun.
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: Okay, good.
- 1:22:10Speaker 3: So this review said great pod. Mary Paine from Pink
- 1:22:14Speaker 3: Shade was talking about this podcast recently. Great referral. I
- 1:22:18Speaker 3: have already learned so much from these two. It is
- 1:22:21Speaker 3: wonderful to know what's going on around us and not
- 1:22:24Speaker 3: to be left out, forgotten or ignored that it is
- 1:22:27Speaker 3: from Lolo one three, four, one nine, and I just thought, God,
- 1:22:31Speaker 3: if that is not exactly what we're trying to be
- 1:22:35Speaker 3: up to. So I so appreciated that.
- 1:22:38Speaker 2: Yeah, and you guys are funny, So you're not over
- 1:22:40Speaker 2: there like being too serious about.
- 1:22:42Speaker 3: Yoh, we're having a nice time.
- 1:22:44Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great, that's great.
- 1:22:47Speaker 2: And I do like sometimes you're like, listen, this is
- 1:22:49Speaker 2: what we're told we're supposed to wear, but this is.
- 1:22:51Speaker 1: What we want to wear.
- 1:22:52Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you have.
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: And I know that.
- 1:22:57Speaker 2: Socks with Tinnis shoes is controversial, but I'm still doing it.
- 1:23:01Speaker 1: I can't wear a no show sock. I can't.
- 1:23:03Speaker 3: No, you shouldn't know. None of the kids are wearing
- 1:23:05Speaker 3: no show Mary. But okay, no, no, no, no, but.
- 1:23:08Speaker 2: I can't wear a I can't wear like what we
- 1:23:11Speaker 2: used to call back in my day, a tennis sock.
- 1:23:13Speaker 2: You can't wear You're not supposed to wear that either.
- 1:23:15Speaker 2: You're supposed to wear no socks. No, okay, Oh it's different.
- 1:23:18Speaker 3: You can't wear socks, okay, you can't wear no show socks, okay,
- 1:23:23Speaker 3: because I don't They want show, okay, they want to
- 1:23:27Speaker 3: see a sock. They think it's disgusting to have ankles presented,
- 1:23:33Speaker 3: so they don't like it. Like and you'll when you
- 1:23:37Speaker 3: look around and you look at a Halle Bieber like
- 1:23:40Speaker 3: off duty, she's gonna have a visible sock. Like they don't.
- 1:23:43Speaker 3: We are generation. We don't like that. It's not comfortable
- 1:23:47Speaker 3: to wear a no show. We just were beaten into
- 1:23:49Speaker 3: submission thinking we had to elongate the leg with a
- 1:23:52Speaker 3: no show.
- 1:23:53Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but the youths.
- 1:23:56Speaker 3: Do not like a no show. They think it's lame.
- 1:23:59Speaker 2: But don't they think they also like like a like
- 1:24:02Speaker 2: a like a chunky sock or you know, and I'm
- 1:24:05Speaker 2: still sticking with like my low rise like tennis socks
- 1:24:08Speaker 2: that just hit right above my tennis shoe and I
- 1:24:11Speaker 2: know that's not cool.
- 1:24:12Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that might be a problem. That might be
- 1:24:14Speaker 3: a problem.
- 1:24:15Speaker 1: I don't know what to do.
- 1:24:16Speaker 3: They're going to appreciate that more, I believe, rather than
- 1:24:19Speaker 3: like to see some material will probably provide them with
- 1:24:23Speaker 3: a little bit of comfort. But they don't want to
- 1:24:28Speaker 3: see like bare ankle. I just don't want to see it.
- 1:24:31Speaker 3: They don't want to see it.
- 1:24:32Speaker 1: But listen. Unlike Lisa Barlow, I have good ankles. I
- 1:24:37Speaker 1: want to show.
- 1:24:38Speaker 3: Them, okay, flex flex flex.
- 1:24:42Speaker 2: When you have only a couple of things on your
- 1:24:45Speaker 2: body at this age that you want to show in
- 1:24:47Speaker 2: your ankle is one of them.
- 1:24:48Speaker 3: I mean, listen, and if they hate our ankles when
- 1:24:52Speaker 3: they're out, I have found, you know, I have a
- 1:24:54Speaker 3: high arch. I'm in an orthotic I already, you know
- 1:24:58Speaker 3: I'm already and I don't have nice ankles, so I
- 1:25:03Speaker 3: enjoy I've leaned into a thicker sock, a pull up sock.
- 1:25:09Speaker 3: I said, thank you Jesus, and I'm out here feeling
- 1:25:12Speaker 3: dare I say quite comfortable?
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not.
- 1:25:16Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna look into I have to go look
- 1:25:19Speaker 2: more into the sock situation. These are things that I
- 1:25:23Speaker 2: think are important and that that that plagued me.
- 1:25:27Speaker 1: And this is what you talk about.
- 1:25:28Speaker 3: And the other thing is like it's okay, like teenagers
- 1:25:31Speaker 3: should not look over at us and be like you're cool,
- 1:25:34Speaker 3: Like it's not, we're not. You know, we're gonna think
- 1:25:37Speaker 3: that so we don't have to. It's the knowing. It's
- 1:25:41Speaker 3: knowing is the power. And then when you choose to
- 1:25:44Speaker 3: flaunt your ankles in front of a couple of ne'er
- 1:25:47Speaker 3: do well youngsters. And you you you feel confident to
- 1:25:52Speaker 3: say that I'm choosing my choice and I'm wagging my
- 1:25:55Speaker 3: ankles in your face and choke on it. Choke on it.
- 1:26:00Speaker 3: You know you stand in your truth?
- 1:26:04Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is what you get over there, guys.
- 1:26:07Speaker 2: And then tell everybody, of course, about your other business,
- 1:26:10Speaker 2: which is the Montage Queen.
- 1:26:12Speaker 3: Montage Queen dot com. I feel I've extended before, but
- 1:26:16Speaker 3: if I will remind anyone that if you mentioned pink shade,
- 1:26:19Speaker 3: I'm happy to give you five percent off any of
- 1:26:21Speaker 3: the the products right way down. Yeah, thank yous, Oh awesome.
- 1:26:29Speaker 3: So I do you know everything from birthdays to I
- 1:26:34Speaker 3: do traditional montages and then I do uh a package,
- 1:26:40Speaker 3: the smaller package, which is prompt related. So like if
- 1:26:44Speaker 3: you had someone you wanted to celebrate, we would customize
- 1:26:47Speaker 3: a few prompts for them and then set something up
- 1:26:50Speaker 3: for people to send in their their content and I
- 1:26:55Speaker 3: put it together and it's so special. So if you're
- 1:26:58Speaker 3: doing like a bar Mitsva bat Mitz or something along
- 1:27:01Speaker 3: those lines, I'd be more like a classic montage. And
- 1:27:04Speaker 3: then you know you or just reach out to me
- 1:27:07Speaker 3: if you have something you want to work on and
- 1:27:09Speaker 3: I'm happy to discuss.
- 1:27:11Speaker 2: But look it up because like if you ever have
- 1:27:13Speaker 2: ideas like Okay, it's so and so's fiftieth birthday, or
- 1:27:16Speaker 2: this is like something special, then go look at Diana's
- 1:27:20Speaker 2: website website, because there's all sorts of ideas there, Like, yeah,
- 1:27:23Speaker 2: somebody did for my sister's wedding, which was like thirty
- 1:27:25Speaker 2: years ago. Literally like somebody with the microphone would go
- 1:27:28Speaker 2: up and ask questions and then somebody put it all
- 1:27:31Speaker 2: together and I still.
- 1:27:32Speaker 1: Have it now. People at the wedding saying like funny things.
- 1:27:35Speaker 1: You know.
- 1:27:36Speaker 3: You don't know how many times people reach back out
- 1:27:39Speaker 3: to me and they're like, you know, I got this
- 1:27:41Speaker 3: from my mom. She watches it all the time. I mean,
- 1:27:44Speaker 3: you just nothing. We have all this content, you know,
- 1:27:48Speaker 3: but until it's put together, until you take like pictures,
- 1:27:53Speaker 3: videos and music and like put something special together, it's
- 1:27:58Speaker 3: only so meaningful because it's just sitting in a library,
- 1:28:02Speaker 3: you know. So and then the it's called the party
- 1:28:07Speaker 3: line where people submit that is also just like you're
- 1:28:13Speaker 3: sharing things right to someone that we just don't do
- 1:28:19Speaker 3: a lot in life, you know, and when you receive it,
- 1:28:22Speaker 3: it's like it's like a love bomb. Yeah yeah, yeah,
- 1:28:27Speaker 3: yeah really with a good kind good oh yeah happy
- 1:28:30Speaker 3: yes yeah, not like a.
- 1:28:31Speaker 1: Love locking like Alloi and Teresa kind.
- 1:28:34Speaker 3: Right, you know, sometimes maybe it is maybe it's too much,
- 1:28:38Speaker 3: but yeah, so twenty twenty six guys, get in so
- 1:28:44Speaker 3: I can book.
- 1:28:45Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, something else, like everybody has left their spirits
- 1:28:50Speaker 2: and their moods and.
- 1:28:51Speaker 3: Yeah things I have. I feel like I have a
- 1:28:54Speaker 3: I think I think it's fair to say I have
- 1:28:56Speaker 3: like one hundred percent satisfaction, right of course, so you know,
- 1:29:01Speaker 3: not you know what I mean, Like I will say
- 1:29:03Speaker 3: that I if you look in I'm the one that's it.
- 1:29:07Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, that's right.
- 1:29:08Speaker 2: So you guys, if you reach out to Dianna, make
- 1:29:10Speaker 2: sure to mention Pink Shange, You'll give you a little discount.
- 1:29:12Speaker 1: And that's you know, you know me, I love a bargain.
- 1:29:16Speaker 3: Some all about it, I mean.
- 1:29:19Speaker 2: Okay, So you can follow Dianna HG B l O
- 1:29:22Speaker 2: how to Be Less Old, the Montage Green and then
- 1:29:25Speaker 2: she also she's Diana M. Chang on Instagram and please
- 1:29:29Speaker 2: follow me at Pink Shade Pod and I will be
- 1:29:32Speaker 2: back guys this weekend with Kimberly for ninety Day the
- 1:29:35Speaker 2: other way, and guys.
- 1:29:38Speaker 1: Hope you're surviving the holidays. That's what I'm hoping for you.
- 1:29:41Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, bye bye.
- 1:29:44Speaker 1: This is fun.