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Luke Thomas Gets Political *live* | UFC White House from all angles | LTGP Live Chat · Luke Thomas Gets Political (LTGP)

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Okay. All right. I think I should be
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live.
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Let me know if you can see me. I'll wait
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here. I'm doing this via a You can see
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me just mouth breathing. I'm doing this
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via a different setup than I than I will
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next time. Ne I normally use uh
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Streamyard. Normally I use Streamyard
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and then with Streamyard I um
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I'm able to like integrate the way which
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you're normally accustomed to seeing on
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my MMA channel. Uh, I don't have that
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here for you this time. We're going to
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do this one a little bit differently
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just to start. But, uh, I'm hoping
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everything sounds good. I don't know if
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it does. I'm assuming that it does, but
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let me know. I will wait here for all of
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you. Let's open this up.
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All right. How do I sound? Do I sound
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good?
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I sound okay.
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Three streams today, bet. Yes, indeed.
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How do I sound?
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I just need a Oh, sounds good. Okay,
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great. A little quiet, but I clear
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audio. I can fix that. I can fix the
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little quiet part. Let's fix that.
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Let's fix that. Okay.
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Audio seems low. It should be a little
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bit better now. How is it now? Should
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should read a little bit better now.
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Yeah. Okay. Very good. Well, welcome
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everyone. This is something of a maiden
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voyage. Now, I want to be clear about
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something. We've never had a We've This
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channel has never gone live. This is the
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very first time. Now, I've gone live a
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million times on my MMA channel and I've
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gone live a million times on my MMA
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channel and talked about things other
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than MMA. So, in some sense, this is not
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new, but it still is new. It still is
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different. It still is important. Um,
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and I just want to say this channel, I
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did not know what was going to happen
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with it. I really did not. I I kind of
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wanted to like I don't know just kind of
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like maybe throw the fishing reel out a
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little bit and was like are there fish?
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Are they going to bite it? If they buy
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it, are they any big? And it was way way
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better than I ever thought it would. I
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honestly feel like if I could lean into
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this completely, I could really take
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this thing places. Um but we have to
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start where we are and and where we've
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grown. And I just want to say thank you.
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First of all, I got I mean, I can't do
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anything else except start the show by
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saying thank you very much for helping
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to make me see that this was maybe
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something that could be something. And I
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you know, I still have to do the work to
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get it there, but it's be been because
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of the enthusiasm and it's been because
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of the
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response that I've been able to um
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I don't know, it's given me some
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comfort. It's given me some comfort. Uh,
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someone's asking, "When is the optimal
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time to mow your lawn?" When I'm not on
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the air, right? That's going to be
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that's going to be the answer literally
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no matter when I'm on the air. You know,
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there's never a time, per se. Um,
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anyway,
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thank you guys so much. Truly, I mean
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that. Truly, I from the bottom of my
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heart, I really, really, really, really,
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really mean that. Um,
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I'm I don't want to bore you with the
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details, so I will keep this extremely
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brief. And you've heard me say this
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before, so I in in the interest of not
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taking up any more of your time, I'd
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like to move on very quickly. But
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suffice to say,
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my life has basically not been the same
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since I got word that Showtime might be
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going away in April of 2023. I have
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basically not known peace since then. Uh
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but to the extent I have found some
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peace, it has often been by able being
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able to contribute content to this
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channel to talk to all of you. Uh not so
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much in this way. We're doing it for the
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first time, but
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in
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I don't know.
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My soul took me here. I don't know what
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how else to put it. my soul took me
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here. I
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watching Trump destroy the city and the
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country uh I mean yeah he turned the
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fountains on but that you know
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absolutely demolish the job market here
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and uh the economy on top of it.
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Watching him do that and then the
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country and then you know the hemisphere
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and then the world more broadly. I just
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felt like I couldn't just and then the
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UFC just deciding to cozy up to them was
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so appalling to me and honestly
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my conscience has been I don't know how
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you feel. What's that line from um Sweet
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Home Alabama? Does your conscience
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bother you? My conscience in being
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associated with all of it has been
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bothering me. Yeah. For a long time.
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Anyway, um,
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so it's been a long journey to even get
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to a point where we're having a live on
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this channel. This is not how they're
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always going to be. I don't know. I'm
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going to find a time to do it that is
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good for all of you, good for me, good
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for this channel, something I can do,
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you know, in a replicated way. Um, and,
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you know, probably distinct from my
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other live chat if we're just being
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realistic. But nevertheless, I want to
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make sure that I'm clear with you that
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like I'm going to make programming here
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and content here in ways that make sense
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for this place that is, you know,
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central to its own interests. All right.
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All right.
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Let me see something here.
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Ah, because I didn't use um Streamyard,
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I cannot put your questions on the
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screen. But let's get to some of them.
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Let's get to some of the questions and
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see what you got. Especially, you know,
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I'll I'll take them if they're not this
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way because it's the first one. But if
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you do want to put in a super chat, that
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would be super awesome. I'd be really
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really uh grateful for it. you know,
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supporting my work and uh being here for
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it already has been something that has
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blown me away and I really appreciate
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it. But if you people often ask me,
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what's a good way to support you?
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Honestly, super chats are a great way.
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That's certainly not the only way. A
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paid subscription on on um on on
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Substack is good as well, but um you
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know, beyond. So, let me know. I'm going
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to change what I see so I don't see the
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flats. Do we have any questions?
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Questions either in the super chat,
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questions not in the super chat.
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Um, let me know. Can I just tell you
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that while while we're waiting
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it has I
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I cannot believe
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um
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I cannot believe
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how little appetite there is for any
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interrogation about the you well okay I
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keep saying I can't believe but I can
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believe it but it has been a little bit
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hard for me to process the degree to
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which this is so obviously significant
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between two entities and then for that
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to be something introduced into MMA
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media coverage as some kind of a sin and
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then to watch MMA media not even try and
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chew the fat on this one is so insanely
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disappointing and dispiriting to me.
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Really quite a revealing moment if I do
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say so myself. Um
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someone's asking uh Breaking Points
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mentioned having you on to talk UFC 250.
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Is that going to happen? Yes. Crystal
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reached out to me and asked me if I
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wanted to go on. I told her yes. Um I
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have to I have to confirm a time that
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she offered uh with her producer which
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I'll which I'm waiting to hear about but
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you know they already offered a time. I
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already said like I've where are we in
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this stage? We have both verbally
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committed. You know what I mean? We've
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verbally committed it. We just have to
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lock in the final details. But she
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definitely hit me up and she definitely
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asked me and I definitely said yes. So
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we'll figure it out from there. But at
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any event, dude, to watch MMA media just
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do nothing related to this is quite
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shocking. There really isn't um any
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media that I feel like sort of like
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Kareem Zadan that is getting any of this
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right because on the MMA side, there's
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no appetite whatsoever for any
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introspection or any examination of a
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Trump angle. There's just less than
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nothing.
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And then um on the political side, there
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is no appetite for the fights, which
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okay, fine, by itself is not the
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problem, but then there's no
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institutional knowledge of MMA. And so
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they're just completely reliant on
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what they're just told. Um, oh, the UFC
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said X, Y, and Z in a press release.
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Then they just take it as fact. There's
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really no there's really no other part
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of it that they that they go through.
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And as a consequence, it's like everyone
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is
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doing different things and they're we're
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not all having the same conversation. I
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feel like, you know, one of the things
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you can get, if I can plug it on my
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Substack I have with Kareem, you know,
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you can get a conversation between two
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people, we don't talk about the fights
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in that one. Okay, fair enough. But we
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do talk about the political implications
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and then also from a place of
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understanding MMA. We're not outsiders
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learning about MMA. We were we were
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insiders who are now, you know, I I
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guess I guess I'm not an outsider at
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this point. Um certainly Kareem is. I
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guess I'm not too far far behind.
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So
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there's just been a lot of like,
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you know, either naive on one side or
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hostility on the other. And it's it's
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created a very strange media
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environment. Let's get to some of these
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questions. Are you going to fight Ryan
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Grim? No, probably not.
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Um,
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I think he should keep the political
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questions on the other chat so so some
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other Chuds can get an opportunity to
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What the [ __ ] Oh. Oh, to hear the other
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point of view.
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How do we watch these appearances you're
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going to be making? All right. So, let's
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talk about it. Um Pablo Tori I what he
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told me we recorded on we recorded after
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the pregame preview and what he told me
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was that was going to be out on Friday.
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So I guess we're waiting for that. And
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then uh CNN I'm on at I think like 6:30
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tomorrow morning. That one's from home.
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They changed that one. That was supposed
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to be in studio. That will now be at
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home. But then the afternoon slot, um,
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they they've told me to book I don't
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think I'm going to be on the entire
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time, but to block out from 2:00 to 4:00
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p.m. tomorrow as well. And I think
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there's supposed to be some French
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newspaper that I have to talk to at
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10:00 a.m. I'm not sure what the state
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of that is.
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Uh, Luke, is it cool to ask political
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questions on your other chat as I'm a
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member there and I want to save dough?
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Yeah, sure, sure, sure. Again, I don't
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have a great system just yet. This is
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the very first one. We've got a lot of
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different, you know, things to fix in
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order to make it all work, including
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finding the right balance of what to do
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with that chat, what to do with this
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one, when to go live, when not to go
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live. When do you use communism as a
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derogatory term? What's wrong with
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Marxism in your opinion? I am not a
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scholar of Marxism. I think that most
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people who claim to have an
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understanding of it do not. To the
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extent that I have read about Marxism,
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the things that I have read in it are
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not faithfully repeated
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in the media, particularly the modern
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media environment. So I'm not going to
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sit here and give some dissertation of a
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of a dude. Understanding Marxism
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requires scholarship.
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People talk about it like they know that
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what they mean by that is um failed but
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but you know authoritarian
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uh state-run
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state organized
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kind of a situation like what what you
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imagine like 1980s propaganda of life in
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shitty Soviet satellite states to look
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like. That's what they imagine it to be.
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Uh, we got a a live chat, excuse me, a
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donation here from Christopher says, "I
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appreciate you, Luke. Thank you." Thank
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you. Thank you, sir. I appreciate you.
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Let's see. Luke, do you think there
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could ever be a time Palestine and
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Israel can reconcile? In less than 100
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years, Jews and Germans have a
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relationship with some Jews regaining
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citizenship
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in I don't know how far it goes.
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Um,
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I mean, I think that kind of time scale
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makes a lot of things possible.
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uh it's 2026. I mean consider 1926. We
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are in the roaring 20s with not even yet
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heading into the great depression. Think
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about the ways in which life was
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transformed over the following you know
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74 years to say nothing of another 26 on
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top of that. So with that in mind I
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would imagine that um yes you have to
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keep your mind open to any number of
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different possibilities again especially
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given that kind of time horizon. But
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what I would say is um I just think
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we'll get to some kind of conclusion.
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I I I I it just seems to me like force,
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maximum force is the plan. Uh
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territorial maximum force in moving even
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now above the Latani River in in
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Lebanon, destroying Beirut, destroying
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that country more generally, taking
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they've already taken parts of Syria. We
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already know what the whole greater
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Israel part as well. You know, um this
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is what they want to do. This is what
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the game is. this is what the game plan
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is. And consequently, um I think that
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some of these questions
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won't like what you're asking as a
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relevant to is there I guess what I'm
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driving at is is there even going to be
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a notion of Palestine in a 100 years? I
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don't think that's an idle question.
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I don't know the answer to that. But it
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feels to me that when you just look at
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the you ever seen these maps in the West
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Bank of the growth of Israeli uh uh
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illegal settlements and how the
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settlements are just rapidly taking over
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and how u essentially like you know you
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can identify for example Palestinian
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homes in the West Bank for a number of
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different reasons. Not least of which is
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they all have water tanks overhead
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because they don't have indoor plumbing.
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You know it's like a total Jim Crow
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scenario. It's actually worse given
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given the state of settler violence in
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these places. And then you look at what
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Gaza has been just completely turned
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into a pulp. I don't know what their
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plans are, but their plans are not to
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keep Gaza and the West Bank un under any
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kind of Palestinian control and frankly
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Palestinian identity or history or
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anything. The plan is to get rid of all
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of that. Quite quite obviously that's
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the plan. You know what I mean? All
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right, here we go. I appreciate you,
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Luke. Let's see here. Oh, let me thank
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you for that one. Thank you, sir. Do you
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think MMA turns people right? I am
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solidly left on economics but have been
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becoming more right on social issues.
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You're probably becoming more right
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because you might be around people like
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that. Um to be clear,
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what's this last one? Okay. Um does it
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turn people right? I don't I I think if
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you're if you listen if you grow up in
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or you are surrounded by any kind of
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environment that presses a certain kind
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of worldview or Jesus or presses a
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certain kind of um
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how do we say this just messaging
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ideation of a particular sort eventually
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there does tend to be something of an
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osmosis effect even sometimes
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subconsciously it can actually happen
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it's not it's not altogether impossible
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Um, and sometimes it can be deeply
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persuasive, right? All of these things
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can happen. Do I think it turns you that
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way? I think in a sense, right? So, one
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of the things that I've had to confront
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is that I mean, MMA definitely is a, you
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know, again, everyone sort of makes fun
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of me for it at this point for saying
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MMA is a right-wing sport, but what I
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mean is even in a different world, that
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would still be true. What that's not my
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complaint. My complaint has never been
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that MMA is NASCAR. Oh, it's right
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coded. Isn't that a problem? That's not
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my issue.
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That's not my issue at all. I don't care
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about that. I know that might sound
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surprising to some, but I really don't.
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Like you can't some some things kind of
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one people like like guys, do you think
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my views were widely disseminated when I
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was in the Marine Corps? Do you think a
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bunch of people in the enlisted
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artillery unit I was in found my ideas
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persuasive? [ __ ] no they didn't. Of
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course not. But that doesn't like you
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know what I like that that some parts of
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the of life are just like that. The
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difference for me is how those forces
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were marshaled and then operationalized
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as a way to advance Donald Trump staying
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out of prison. That's the part to me
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that's the problem. So
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understand that even if there was a
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different lead promoter who had no
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interest in politicizing the sport in
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this way, what would ultimately happen
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is it would still be comprised by people
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of a right-wing kind of, you know,
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partisanship, maybe center right, and
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there would be more diversity of
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thought, too, I think. But you know you
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would still predominantly or at least
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you know in some kind of way lean lean
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right. The the the the issue again it is
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not that it is how taking that putting
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that into a political plan that is the
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problem. That is the that is that is the
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beginning and end of the problem. And
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because it has done that and because
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that has been offputting to some who
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disagree with it and because that has
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homogenized the fan base. You're asking
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am I turning you more? Well, now there
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is such an echo chamber of
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self-reinforcing
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elements of the right all sort of
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channeling through. I mean, how many
17:38
pro-andrew Tate manosphere things have
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you seen the last few years? Fighters
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being called on it like, "Oh, this guy
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is, you know, see the New York New
17:46
Yorker uh story on him." It's like, you
17:48
can't believe that these fighters ever
17:50
went to the Matford, but I guess you
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can. And they're like, "Oh no, he's top
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G." It's like, "Oh my god, dude, you're
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so [ __ ] lost. You're so lost." um all
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of that is kind of simmering through and
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and and among a number of other
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different influences as well. So yes,
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now being in proximity to this
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politicized homogenized thing, it could
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be rubbing off on you. Yes.
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Let's see here.
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Eric asks, "Reminining about Oh, sorry.
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No, from NN says, "What's it like to
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find this avenue of politics in sports?
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I feel like you are one of the only ones
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who covers it in MMA and one of the few
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that covers it from good faith
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perspective sports. I don't really want
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to do this. Um I don't want to be the oh
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he covers politics and sports guy. I
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don't I I know I know that's what I am
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doing. Uh I would like to be able to do
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things beyond just that particular
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nexus.
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I'd like to have be able to say beyond
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it. Uh I don't know if that is possible
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but that is the attempt. So,
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it feels weird because it's s it's such
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like there's so much media and yet
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there's such a gap at the same time.
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It's quite it's quite weird, you know?
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Uh but also, I mean, who the hell saw
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any of this coming? Like, you think when
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I got into MMA, you know, and I really
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wanted to do something with it in
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February of 2007, do you think that that
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was I thought, you know, 19 years later
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we'd be doing this? It's it's just it's
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just bonkers, you know? So, it's a very
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s it's maybe part I'm trying to point
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out is maybe part of the reason why
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there's a gap is because it is such a
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bizarre intersection
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in time.
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Reminiscing about Covington, a pioneer
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of right-wing MMA archetype, have you
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reflected on the novelty taboo that
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existed when he came up versus now? I
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mean, at first he was trying to be
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something of a wink wink. I I I I don't
19:43
know all the taxonomy of pro- wrestling,
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good guy, bad guy thing, but it looked
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to me like what he was trying to do was
19:49
get attention by triggering anyone he
19:51
could, any stuffy lib that was in the
19:55
fan base at that time while also
19:57
signaling to the other ones who like him
19:59
to rally around him. Right? In other
20:01
words, to be polarizing in the same way
20:02
you would as a political figure to get
20:04
other if you're Michael Nolles, you want
20:06
to be supported by Ben Shapiro and and
20:08
and then you also want to trigger all
20:10
the people on the left. like it was it's
20:12
the same kind of dynamic, but then
20:14
something kind of happened along the
20:15
way. The sport homogenized in a pretty
20:17
strong direction, so there was no one
20:18
left to trigger except other fans. And
20:21
then what was required of him, if you'll
20:23
notice, remember he was going out in the
20:24
colonial outfit, too. Remember, he had
20:26
the full-on like colonial Williamsburg
20:28
thing because there was no one left to
20:30
really trigger like that. You there was
20:32
no one left. And he was doing other
20:33
stuff too, like he was giving away the
20:35
plot of Star Wars and stuff like that,
20:38
which which in fairness is a scumbag
20:41
move, but also really
20:48
It's a little funny. It's a little
20:50
funny. It's a scumbag move. I'm not
20:51
defending it, but I'm sorry. Like
20:53
watching people be like, I can't believe
20:55
you [ __ ] ruined Star Wars.
21:00
Oh man, that was I got I got a little
21:02
bit of a chuckle out of that. I I have
21:04
to admit. Um
21:07
anyway,
21:09
he had to alter the gimmick because
21:11
there was no one left to trigger
21:14
and between that and inactivity and
21:16
other issues related to his professional
21:18
accomplishment, the whole thing just
21:20
kind of fizzled. And a bunch of other
21:23
people became right-wing, like vocally
21:25
right-wing without any of the thetick,
21:29
you know what I mean? Like Bryce
21:30
Mitchell or Sean Strickland, they're
21:32
like, you can say what you want about
21:33
them and there is a lot to be said, but
21:36
they do stick. Oh, sorry. Sorry. They
21:38
don't do shick. They just kind of talk
21:39
how they feel. And it made what what
21:41
what he was doing look even weirder. So
21:44
it just it just everything just kind of
21:46
fizzled. It just fizzled. He would have
21:48
had a much better show of it like in MMA
21:51
in the early 2010s or something. That
21:53
would have been a great time for him. A
21:55
great time. All right, let's see here.
21:59
Oops. Hang on.
22:03
Not supporting the White House card with
22:05
my money. All you can do as a consumer.
22:07
Hope you'll have a watch along. I will.
22:08
I'll have a watch along and I'm going to
22:10
have a post-fight show here. So, fight's
22:13
going to be over. I'm going to do a
22:14
post-fight show on the fights and then
22:16
when that's over, I'm going to be back
22:17
here and doing I mean, I might change my
22:20
mind between now and then, but the plan
22:21
for now is to then come live here. I
22:23
guess we'll see what kind of audience is
22:25
there. If not, I might do a wrap-up and
22:26
then post it later after the fact, but
22:29
um the plan is for now anyway to go live
22:32
here after the post fight show, but
22:33
we'll see how that goes. I'm pretty
22:34
tired. I haven't slept well in a while.
22:36
All right,
22:41
Mr. Fancy Dick says, "I think you
22:43
mentioned you were once a speech
22:44
writer." Yes. "Does it feel like a full
22:46
circle career moment re-entering the
22:48
political sphere?" Yes, it does. Yes, it
22:50
does. That is such a great question. It
22:52
feels insane to me. It feels insane to
22:55
me. Um I never anticipated it, never
22:58
wanted it. Um never never thought twice
23:03
about it. I don't know. It was just
23:04
strange. It was just strange. I wanted
23:08
to get as far away from it as possible
23:10
when it was in my face and I thought MMA
23:14
would be a safe refuge. Boy, the naivity
23:16
on that, huh? Can you imagine? I was
23:20
like, I just want to get away from this
23:22
completely. And then
23:26
it just tells you how politicized the
23:28
sport is, how politicized our age, I
23:30
think, generally is. Um,
23:34
and this is why it's just I mean, dude,
23:38
all these [ __ ] media people being
23:40
like, "Oh, yeah, quietly. I really like
23:42
what you're doing, man. Shut the [ __ ]
23:43
up." Like,
23:45
not watching MMA media just completely
23:48
whiff on this. I think it's radicalizing
23:51
me if I can just be honest with you. I
23:53
think it's radicalizing me to just
23:54
watch, dude. to watch this country not
23:58
punish Jan 6 properly is part of the
24:01
reason why we're here and the White
24:05
House thing the people think I'm against
24:07
the fights like the fights dude I don't
24:08
give a [ __ ] about the fight I mean
24:10
they're fights like they're I value what
24:12
they are as they mean for the fights but
24:13
I'm saying as a thing to be mad about
24:15
I'm not mad about the fights I want to
24:17
be very clear about that I'm not mad
24:18
about I'm not mad at about the fights I
24:20
am concerned about the union of these
24:22
two entities that is that is what I'm
24:25
concerned about I'm concerned about what
24:26
it means for MMA and I'm concerned about
24:28
what it means for the country and I'm
24:30
concerned about the UFC being in
24:31
relationship with and this is literally
24:34
not even debatable a guy who tried to
24:38
use a fake elector scheme to steal a
24:40
presidential election
24:43
#Kenneth Chzbro
24:47
and when the long arm of the law was
24:50
descending on this guy that is when the
24:52
UFC went to bat for him when law enfor
24:55
enforcement was catching up with him
24:56
slowly and too slow in fact but
24:58
nevertheless that's when it was and they
25:01
helped return him to power and they not
25:03
only get this as the reward they are now
25:06
inshing the UFC inside the federal
25:09
government they're signing deals with
25:11
the FBI apparently they're signing deals
25:13
with state department today they're
25:15
getting this event which I don't think
25:17
it'll necessarily be the last you think
25:18
they're going to never use this claw
25:20
again really they're going to do all
25:22
this [ __ ] and then can tear it apart and
25:25
never will you see it again. They're
25:26
going to take this thing on the road
25:28
maybe now that they've got it under
25:30
control. Take it to a more temperate
25:32
climate or, you know, Southern
25:33
California or something. I don't know,
25:34
something like that. Like, do you think
25:36
they're just going to they're going to
25:38
spend all this money to have a feat of
25:40
engineering
25:42
to just get rid of it? Well, I guess
25:44
we're done here.
25:46
You know, that seems naive. That seems
25:49
naive. I don't I don't I don't buy that.
25:52
Um, so
25:55
I don't know. I lost track of where they
25:56
were in the question. It's a full circle
25:57
moment in the political sphere. But
26:01
it's just crazy that there's this union
26:03
and I honestly I'll tell you all the
26:05
truth. If we could go back to 2019,
26:08
snap our fingers and go back and come
26:11
and then go through there's no pandemic
26:13
and the UFC doesn't politicize. If
26:15
someone says you have to give up
26:16
everything to go back there, the answer
26:17
is yes. I would. I I didn't really want
26:22
to do this. I just felt like I kind of
26:25
had to. Felt like I had no choice
26:30
and that's why I'm doing it. So, yeah.
26:37
All right. Let's see.
26:40
Uh we have the refused entries,
26:42
deportations and treatment of brownskinn
26:44
teams officials entering USA for the
26:46
World Cup done to oh what have the
26:49
refused entries, deportations and
26:50
treatment of brownkinn team/officials
26:53
entering the USA for the World Cup done
26:55
to US image worldwide. I mean on some
26:57
level it's not new because tourism is
27:01
down to the United States virtually
27:04
everywhere. I do believe that there are
27:05
some that might be a little bit up or
27:07
holding steady, but so many countries,
27:10
their overall flights from 2015 to 20 or
27:13
sorry, 2025 to 2026, they're all down.
27:15
They're all down. They're all down
27:17
relative to to what they were previously
27:20
all throughout Europe in many parts of
27:21
Latin America as well. It's all down.
27:24
Um, so that comes from these stories of
27:27
us holding people who, you know, there's
27:30
green card holder. I saw a guy who was
27:31
an Irish green card holder that there
27:33
was some kind of, you know, incredibly
27:36
minor issue he, you know, you guys have
27:38
seen these stories that there was some
27:40
easily fixable minor issue that they
27:42
used to throw someone in ICE detention.
27:43
And he was in an ICE uh detention center
27:47
calling Irish News to complain about how
27:49
much weight he'd lost. There's no food.
27:51
They're not taking care of them. Like
27:52
he's detailing these harrowing
27:54
conditions. These stories spread. the
27:57
the the the UK grandma that sits in ICE
27:59
detention for 6 weeks before being
28:01
deported. Like the nastiness with which
28:03
they did it. Don't you remember the MMA
28:04
coach who came over from Australia? I
28:07
forget his name. Subic. Subetic. Uh I
28:10
forget his I forget his last name. And
28:12
they they tried to, you know, throw him
28:13
in. Remember, they didn't some places
28:15
don't have ice detention centers, so
28:16
they just they're just borrowing open
28:18
parts of prisons to house some of these
28:20
people in. All of these stories went
28:22
back. This is merely a continuation.
28:24
It's kind of been out of the headlines
28:26
recently, right? right? We haven't
28:27
noticed it as much. It was much bigger
28:28
in the first and second, maybe even the
28:30
third quarter of 2025, maybe 2025
28:33
overall. Um, some of that has gone down.
28:35
They're a little bit quieter about it. I
28:36
think they're making some maybe some
28:38
less aggressive choices absent the World
28:41
Cup in terms of screening, although in
28:43
refugees, it's just all all but like I
28:45
think a handful quite literally a
28:47
handful of just white South Africans.
28:49
But these these these are well-known
28:51
stories and it's going to only going to
28:52
get worse. Like what's the upshot of
28:54
this? Well, all the people who tried to
28:56
come here as fans who got turned away
28:57
for some minor issue, which is common,
29:00
or had a really awful experience coming
29:02
through, but maybe got through or just
29:04
got sent back in some kind of a way.
29:06
Like, they're all going to go home and
29:08
tell stories and they're going to talk
29:09
to their local news and then local news
29:11
is going to broadcast this to people.
29:13
It's only going to exacerbate the
29:15
existing collapse in the image of the
29:18
United States abroad. How could it be
29:20
anything else? How could it be? We
29:23
already It's not like we're I'm
29:24
speculating about the decline in
29:26
international travel here. I'm basing my
29:28
argument on a fact that's already been
29:30
established.
29:34
This is already where we are. Guys, did
29:36
you not see on top of that that gigantic
29:39
Wall Street Journal report more people
29:41
or not? And people think, "Oh, it's it's
29:43
all the Mexicans of illegal status." No,
29:44
no, no. It's plenty of other people.
29:48
More Americans for the first time since
29:49
the Great Depression left the United
29:51
States last year than entered
29:54
since the Great Depression. That's
29:56
almost a hundred years.
29:59
So you're asking, what's the World Cup
30:01
going to do? It's going to magnify all
30:03
of the things that the world has already
30:05
seen about us. How can we possibly look
30:07
at the world and say, "Oh, Trump is not
30:09
us. We did it twice. We did it twice. It
30:13
absolutely is us. It's not the totality
30:16
of us, but it's us. Yes, that is us. I t
30:21
I bring no joy in saying it. That's us.
30:25
This is where we are. This is who we
30:27
are.
30:30
Um, so it's going to just really
30:32
collapse stock. And then again, we've
30:34
torn out all the soft power mechanisms
30:36
that we had. I think I discussed this on
30:37
the previous chat. And we're going to
30:39
replace it with cage fighting. like what
30:41
does this meaningfully do to bolster
30:42
relations with a country for gain other
30:46
than I don't know make them compliant
30:47
with state department demands. I don't I
30:49
don't really know. I guess we'll have to
30:50
see how that all works. But this is now
30:52
no different like there's there's no
30:54
difference now between the Saudi Arabia
30:57
using their sovereign wealth fund to
30:59
riod stuff all either through
31:01
sponsorship or their own events than
31:03
what you're seeing between UFC and state
31:04
department. They are sports watching. It
31:06
is matterof fact at this point. It's not
31:08
even ambiguous.
31:12
Have you seen a more effective mayor
31:14
than Zoron in your lifetime? Uh, they
31:17
love they they love Mary and Barry here.
31:20
Will his success produce more copycats?
31:22
What we need is someone not just with a
31:25
progressive vision, not just with a
31:28
progressive vision. That is really not
31:29
the only problem. You need someone that
31:31
is committed to competency as a brand
31:36
and
31:38
proof of concept that government can be
31:40
effective. And there's a third pillar,
31:44
ethics in the business, limiting the
31:46
scope of the job where we're not there
31:48
to enrich ourselves. Uh we are not there
31:51
to um you know self aggrandise in some
31:54
kind of a way. We are there to do this
31:57
job by the book to help New Yorkers to
32:00
stay laser focused in his particular
32:01
case laser focused on workingclass
32:04
issues, improving quality of life,
32:06
finding ways to meaningfully affect
32:08
people. That's the the the brand works
32:10
for him because of that. Obviously,
32:12
there's more that goes into it,
32:13
political dealmaking, which he did with
32:14
the state to be able to afford child
32:16
care for everyone, but in general, what
32:18
he's doing are those three pillars that
32:20
I mentioned. That needs to be the brand.
32:22
That's why for me I like you know
32:25
platiner to me it's like people going to
32:26
the mat for him it's like I guess he is
32:28
better than Susan Collins he is better
32:29
than Janet Mills that is true but for me
32:32
like a really safer bet is Abdul Elsed
32:36
who has many Platin-like views is
32:39
certainly a progressive Democrat but is
32:41
an academic a proven administrator of
32:44
the state of healthcare in in Detroit.
32:47
um you know a road scholar, captain of
32:50
the wrestling team, like
32:52
that's more my thing, right? Didn't go
32:54
to Harvard, went to University of
32:55
Michigan, which is still obviously a
32:56
phenomenal public school, but just that,
32:58
a public school.
33:00
That's my kind of thing that I feel much
33:03
more comfortable with that kind of a
33:04
decision.
33:07
Let's see here.
33:09
Did you see Peter Binard's rebuttal of
33:10
Sam Harris on Israel? His refusal to
33:13
debate any critics of Israel. Finally,
33:15
Harris and Mah are taken to task. I
33:17
watched about a minute of it. I have not
33:19
finished. Sam Harris basically wrote an
33:21
article filled with as many lies,
33:25
falsehoods, obfuscations,
33:27
bizarre tangents, and just ghoulish
33:32
morality all through. This guy wants
33:34
people to take his moral reasoning
33:36
seriously. And it's weird about Gaza
33:38
because with these people like Sam, you
33:40
can't even have an ordinary conversation
33:43
about the merits. You can only have they
33:46
are unable to accept certain elements of
33:48
fact. If you sit on a jury trial, there
33:52
are things that are introduced to the
33:54
court that the both the defense and the
33:55
prosecution agree are facts of the case.
33:58
And it makes the conversation a lot
33:59
simpler because you have to consult
34:01
those as the north star as the as the as
34:03
the as the defining way in which to um
34:06
have a conversation and to make a
34:08
judgment about like but they just refuse
34:10
to have that kind of a process. They
34:11
they they there is every effort made to
34:14
have some kind of explanation here. Oh,
34:16
people is just full of anti-semitism.
34:18
And of course, anti-semitism is real.
34:20
But then you'll hear things like the
34:21
Qatar overtake of your Tik Tok feed and
34:24
it's like, guys, maybe it's the child
34:26
killing.
34:28
Maybe it's the Oh, you know what?
34:38
This book
34:41
by Adam Johnson. We're reading it
34:43
together on my Substack. Um, he's going
34:48
to be on my Substack and I'll put I'll
34:50
put the interview on this YouTube
34:51
channel afterward. He's going to be on
34:54
my Substack to do to talk about his
34:57
book. This book is incredible. Now, it's
35:00
not just incredible for how good it is
35:03
in the sense of how strong the argument
35:04
is, but
35:07
it's more than that. He makes a very
35:10
simple but very clear and important
35:13
claim. He doesn't claim that
35:18
in his opinion
35:21
major newspapers, television networks,
35:23
and other forms of large-scale corporate
35:25
media have an pro-Israel and
35:28
anti-Palestinian bias because he feels
35:30
it or because it's reputationally there
35:33
or because he saw isolated examples of
35:35
it. No, no, no. His argument is the
35:38
reason why we know it's true is because
35:41
you can empirically prove it. You can
35:44
literally take the data that shows any
35:48
number of different things that they
35:49
want to measure and how much the
35:52
disparity in that can be either
35:53
positively or negatively in favor of
35:55
Israel and against Palestine or vice
35:57
versa vice virtue in terms of good or a
35:59
bad. Like so for example,
36:02
if they look at um what was the one that
36:05
I read the other day? I thought was
36:06
really good. What's a basic one that he
36:08
starts out with? Oh god, I can't see
36:10
[ __ ]
36:14
here. Hold on.
36:16
Oh, Martin Fletcher. That was a good
36:18
one. Uh, hold on.
36:23
Let me get this one. Ah, here we go.
36:27
Where is this one?
36:31
Okay,
36:35
we'll do.
36:39
Okay.
36:42
All right. Let me just read the
36:43
beginning of this to you. Okay. Within
36:45
hours of the October 7th attack,
36:46
pro-Israel reporters, politicians, and
36:48
commentators needed to exceptionalize
36:51
Palestinian violence and create a tiered
36:53
moral system that indexed October 7th as
36:56
something morally distinct from both
36:58
Israeli violence of the past and what
37:00
would no doubt be an unprecedented
37:02
military response by Israel in addition
37:04
to the campaign to ISIS Hamas. So, one
37:08
argument that he makes in this is he
37:09
says that pro-Israeli forces or
37:11
pro-Israeli sympathies through media
37:13
exerted through different ways tried to
37:16
turn Hamas into like nihilistic jihadist
37:19
murderers, which yes, of course, they
37:21
engaged in horrible acts on October 7th,
37:23
but they're not ISIS in that way. They
37:25
are a political organization, too. They
37:27
have political demands. Yes, they
37:29
resorted to barbaric means. That is
37:31
true. But, of course, their adversary
37:32
has done that times a thousand. So
37:34
whatever you can accuse them of, Israel
37:36
would be just as guilty to the nth
37:38
degree. And so now we're back at a place
37:40
where we're having a political divide.
37:42
And there was an attempt to like the the
37:44
reason why they wanted to ISIS Hamas was
37:47
so that they could make violence against
37:48
them, wanting violence against them more
37:50
acceptable. But he continues
37:53
um the three mechanisms to achieve this
37:56
exceptionalization were one, the almost
37:58
entirely lopsided use of emotive words
38:00
to describe the killing of Israelis
38:02
versus the killing of Palestinians. So
38:04
they would call it a tragedy or a
38:05
massacre. And then when Palestinians
38:07
would be killed, then they can measure
38:08
the use of these words, right? And they
38:09
show you side by side comparisons. But
38:12
when it was when it was Palestinians
38:13
killed, there was never any of these
38:15
other descriptors. It was merely like
38:17
numeric totals, right? They would never
38:19
call it a slaughter. They would never
38:21
call it a massacre. They would never
38:22
call it, you know, that kind of a thing.
38:25
uh reflexively prefacing the majority of
38:27
statements about Palestinian civilian
38:28
deaths with claims of Palestinian war
38:31
crimes while systematically ignoring
38:33
welldocumented crimes by Israelis.
38:34
That's a very common one. And an overall
38:36
rhetorical regime that humanized
38:38
Israelis and dehumanized Palestinians.
38:40
And then he goes through and then proves
38:42
it to you by collecting data on like
38:44
10,000 news articles and like 5,000
38:47
hours of television and showing you
38:49
systematically how they often um they
38:52
call when when if there's someone 17 and
38:54
under for who's Israeli, they call them
38:56
children. If it's 17 and under, they
38:59
call them minors. And you can't find the
39:01
reverse hardly at all. And he just
39:03
documents this over and over and over.
39:05
It is empirically [ __ ] true. You can
39:10
measure it. You can literally [ __ ]
39:13
measure it. And so
39:16
all of that is to say Sam Harris just
39:19
can't reconcile with this. He cannot
39:21
reconcile with the crimes. He cannot
39:22
reconcile with the reality. And so he
39:25
has turned himself into a place where
39:26
he's like, I won't even talk to critics
39:28
because there's nothing to say. There's
39:30
nothing to say because you are not even
39:32
on planet reality. They can literally
39:35
prove media bias. And this is just the
39:38
beginning. the media bias. What is that
39:40
for? Why is this important? Because this
39:42
is the permission structure that was
39:44
created. And by the way, not just a
39:47
permission structure to start one, a
39:49
permission structure to prolong one
39:53
as some kind of
39:56
ferocious inevitability.
39:58
That that's what this is for. That's why
40:00
it's called How to Sell a Genocide. How
40:02
to make you buy it, how to make you keep
40:04
it. Yeah. Incredible [ __ ] book.
40:09
If you could hand select the next
40:11
president of the United States, who
40:12
would you pick? I don't know.
40:20
Probably Abdul sayed.
40:24
I want someone who's worked in the
40:27
public sector. I want someone that went
40:29
to public school. I want someone that
40:31
went to public college, but is like
40:33
academically smart
40:36
combined. That's what I want. I don't
40:38
want someone that went to an elite
40:39
private school and then went to Harvard
40:40
and became an academic. They have a
40:41
value in the world, but that's not who I
40:43
want. I want someone who has been among
40:46
the public all his life and was just
40:48
very exceptional and now wants to run
40:50
for like that to me and like that that
40:52
that to me is my wheelhouse right there.
40:55
Um, someone's asking about the Belfast
40:57
protests and the far-right violence that
40:58
guys like Elon Musk, Conor McGregor are
41:00
pushing. don't know nearly as much about
41:02
that as I would like to be able to
41:04
comment intelligently except to say
41:05
number one it is [ __ ] insane that
41:08
they didn't let Hassan [ __ ] go to the
41:09
UK right and Elon Musk could go and much
41:13
of this violence as I understand it can
41:15
be attributed to not just him but uh him
41:18
in particular among a series of other
41:20
actors right so Elon Musk can help torch
41:23
Belfast but we can't we're not allowed
41:26
to bring Hassan [ __ ] to the UK
41:28
absolutely insane
41:30
But I need to read more um to fully get
41:33
the weight of it. And I I I've read a
41:35
little bit, but I I have more to read.
41:37
Please stay in MMA. We need book readers
41:39
like you. I don't think MMA needs me. I
41:41
don't I know there are people in MMA who
41:44
say that, but like the industry
41:46
generally does not want me. It never
41:48
really did, but I was still able to, I
41:51
think, meaningfully contribute. But if
41:53
they're just going to be like a a a
41:55
proTrump ballwashing op uh operation
41:58
with no reflex or appetite for examining
42:01
that, I don't know where that leaves me.
42:04
Um again, we're asking about Musk here.
42:07
Event is ridiculous, but it sucks the
42:09
fighter stories are secondary. Yeah,
42:10
it's true. It's inspiring that a kid
42:13
from Montana saved up 2,000 bucks and
42:15
left home for Arizona in an old car and
42:18
never looked back and became champ
42:21
and then took money from Ramzon Kadirov
42:24
or allegedly I guess uh from his kids. I
42:28
don't want to you know I don't know how
42:30
true that is but you know it's the
42:32
presumption there anyway. All right. Uh
42:34
I feel like our current political hell
42:36
started in 2008 when Obama bailed out
42:38
the banks losing all hope. Well, it
42:40
precedes that because
42:42
Trump, sorry, what am I saying? Trump
42:44
Bush invaded. Well, first of all,
42:46
there's Bush vGore where you can make an
42:48
argument about to what extent that was a
42:50
stolen election. That's its own little I
42:51
don't want to relitigate hanging Chads,
42:54
you know, and uh and and whatnot from
42:57
various municipalities within the state
42:59
of Florida. But suffice to say, you can
43:00
make an argument about that. That's one.
43:03
And then he invaded Iraq. Like, dude,
43:05
no. It started before that. I mean, you
43:06
can even go back to Reagan, right? And
43:08
Bush the the elder Bush was political
43:11
toast after he said no new taxes. But
43:14
you know Reagan and Clinton obviously
43:15
had his own issues. But the America was
43:19
there was a lot of political acrimony
43:20
between the Republicans and you guys
43:22
remember the contract with America in
43:23
'94 and and Clinton. But um relative to
43:27
our current state there was there was a
43:29
long shutdown there too but relative to
43:31
the current state of things it felt a
43:32
lot more deal making bipartisan and in
43:35
control. I think there's data to that
43:37
effect as well.
43:40
Uh, what else we got here? Let's see.
43:43
Oops.
43:47
No question. I left MMA fandom three to
43:49
four years ago and just happy to be back
43:51
watching your live chats again. Always
43:52
appreciate your cander. Great to hear
43:54
the channel is as cathartic for you as
43:55
it is for us. Yeah, thanks man. I
43:56
appreciate that. Thanks for sticking
43:58
with me, man. Really appreciate it.
44:00
Elevate says, "Love you, buddy. Thanks
44:01
so much for this channel. We need this
44:03
now more than ever. I'd love to sponsor
44:04
this channel. one of my brands. Hit up
44:06
my guys. Hit up the email for the
44:09
channel. Would you ever have Graham
44:10
Platner on your show? Sure. I talked to
44:12
him. I mean, you know, he's another
44:14
Marine. I And he had a more
44:16
distinguished career than I did, but I I
44:17
have some questions about that tattoo
44:19
for sure. Hey, Luke. Big fan from
44:21
Australia. I often reference you in
44:22
terms of both MMA news and geopolitical
44:24
news. My friends are now saying, "Why
44:26
don't you marry him already? Let's go
44:29
[ __ ] him." So, here's me shooting my
44:31
shot. Will you marry me? Much love,
44:32
mate. I will not. I am taken for but uh
44:36
I'm flattered.
44:38
Have you read Confessions of an Economic
44:40
Hitman by John Perkins? Think you would
44:42
find it interesting? I have not. I have
44:43
not.
44:46
To your point about left-wing media
44:47
missing the boat on this event. I've
44:49
seen lib YouTubers say even Joe Rogan is
44:51
criticizing it. Yeah. No, he is not.
44:53
Yeah. Joe, listen. Joe's criticism, as I
44:56
said on the on the live chat, Joe's
44:57
criticism of the event is like the
44:59
fairest, like the fairest criticism of
45:02
the event. If you're just talking about
45:03
the sporting side of it, just the
45:04
sporting side of it, it's like it's
45:05
outside and that might mess it up. He's
45:07
right. He's right. He's right. It's not
45:11
a guarantee that it will get messed up,
45:13
but people just blowing it off because
45:16
other sports are played outside missed
45:18
the point completely. Anyway, I don't
45:20
really want to get into MMA here, but
45:23
then they're like, but the point is like
45:24
the the the lib side of it who are like
45:26
half paying attention like, oh, you
45:28
know, to your point, Joe's been really
45:31
bad mouthing this. I'm like, dude, he's
45:33
not said anything about
45:36
the thing that matters. He's only just
45:37
complaining about the outside part. And
45:39
I'm like, and then what he said is even
45:41
true. Like,
45:46
you're getting this story totally wrong.
45:48
And I'm seeing it all over the place.
45:50
It's crazy.
45:55
Uh, let's see. Oh, whoops. Hey, Luke.
45:58
What is your What is the most out there
46:01
conspiracy theory that the events of the
46:02
last four years convinced you could be
46:04
real? Keep up the great work. Um, I
46:07
think that there is to me a lot that is
46:09
unknown about the Epstein files. um in
46:12
terms of who needs to be further
46:14
investigated, prosecuted, and that some
46:16
of these events and crimes like because
46:19
there's just a glut of information,
46:20
someone to process it and then make an
46:23
account of a series of crimes, right?
46:25
Like or or you know, whatever the the
46:26
full EV evidentiary case, but you're
46:28
taking a bit of a focus. It's it's
46:30
comprehensive but within a narrow scope.
46:33
And I think we need to see some of that,
46:35
but that there could be somebody. I
46:38
mean, one of the interesting parts about
46:39
if you read Mortaza Hussein's reporting
46:41
at Dropside News is how much the
46:43
question of like, you know, was Jeffrey
46:46
Epstein an agent of the Israelis Israeli
46:48
state? And there's a lot of reason to
46:49
think that he might be. Uh, conversely,
46:52
there's also some reason to believe that
46:56
the roles were reversed in in certain
46:58
ways. um particularly with his
47:00
relationship with Ahood Barack who he
47:02
was trying to mentor um it was it was
47:05
really quite strange. So there is that
47:08
question of like what h what drives
47:09
geopolitical decision-m
47:12
uh and policy and advancement and then
47:14
the other component is like to what and
47:16
I still think this is under investigated
47:18
I mean we have a lot of information but
47:20
a lot of information has to be
47:22
synthesized into a way that is usable
47:25
and that part to me feels missing that
47:28
you know I don't know exactly how young
47:30
all of these people were but that there
47:32
was some kind of realworld elitist
47:36
child trafficking, you know, operation.
47:40
Um, that is something I would never
47:42
really have, not found impossible, but
47:45
much more unlikely than it turns out
47:47
that it uh was. Um, that shocked me. I
47:51
think it shocked h how how can it not?
47:53
How can it not, right? How can it not?
47:55
Um, so I I I you know, we don't have a
47:59
full comprehensive understanding of
48:00
exactly what's happened. Obviously,
48:02
there's a lot of information that we're
48:03
missing and synthes a a synthesis as
48:06
well, but yeah, that that part has been
48:07
insane to me.
48:11
Do your political beliefs align with
48:12
your families? They do. Yeah.
48:15
Mercifully, I don't have to fight with
48:16
my family uh at Thanksgiving. Would you
48:19
advise someone to talk about charge the
48:22
Red Hats gang? What?
48:24
In my opinion, keep it close to the
48:26
chest. If not, the rich and powerful,
48:27
use their money to keep them out of
48:29
office. by the way, they should be in
48:30
jail. I don't know what you are saying.
48:34
Uh I don't know what that means. Maybe
48:37
you already said it, but what channels
48:39
uh will have you featured on this week?
48:41
Except Pablo Tori, that is. Um
48:45
did I skip a bunch? No, I think I got
48:47
them. Uh let's see. Oh my god, the list
48:49
is endless. Okay.
48:52
Um, I was on Irish Independent, El Pais,
48:55
Wall Street Journal, um, CNN on Monday.
48:59
Um, so that's already I did some giant
49:02
British YouTuber. Um, she had a lot of
49:05
subs. I forget her name. Uh, you have to
49:07
forgive me. Um, I did CBC, I did Slate.
49:13
Uh, previously I had done, by the way,
49:16
because it was kind of a bit earlier,
49:17
but not too long ago, I did Bull Work,
49:19
but you're asking this week. I did uh
49:21
NewsHour with PBS. I did um
49:26
God, I'm trying to remember all of them.
49:28
What did I do today? Oh, I did another
49:30
CBC show today. Um, and then tomorrow
49:34
morning CNN, tomorrow afternoon CNN,
49:37
French f some French newspaper tomorrow.
49:40
And then, uh, I got some stuff on
49:42
Saturday. It's a little small. Oh, I did
49:44
like I did a I did a uh I did a NPR
49:46
station in in um in Northern California.
49:50
Um,
49:51
what else did I do? Uh, oh, and I have,
49:54
let's see, I have Breaking Points on
49:55
Monday. I have uh I might have MSNBC on
49:59
Monday. I've got CNN in the morning. I
50:02
got CNN in the afternoon.
50:05
I've got uh the Crooked Media reached
50:07
out to me. That's the um that's the
50:09
Obama boys. They reached out to me. Um
50:12
Vanity Fair reached out to me. So yeah.
50:16
Um there's a lot. News Nation reached
50:19
out. I turned them down because I they
50:20
wanted me to get up at like 4 in the 5
50:22
in the morning for it and I was like,
50:23
"Yeah, no. I'm not like no, I'm just not
50:25
going to do that."
50:26
Uh, if Dems ever get majority power
50:28
again, they should impeach and convict
50:30
Trump and Vance then put the speaker of
50:33
the house in as president.
50:37
Uh,
50:39
oh, you mean if they take Oh, so then
50:41
they would Okay. Yeah, that I
50:44
that seems like a bit of a long shot. I
50:46
think I do like the part the part about
50:48
the dude, like one of the things that
50:50
absolutely has to happen. I'm not doing
50:52
2008 again. Someone's going to jail for
50:54
this for all of the many crimes that we
50:57
know. I mean, you guys remember
50:58
Signalgate alone? Remember that?
50:59
Remember the original Pete Hexath
51:01
controversy? Signalgate. I think people
51:03
have memory hold that. That's a small
51:05
one relative to some of the other
51:06
things. But part of the reason why we
51:08
are here with Trump is because we
51:09
refused to put him in prison when we had
51:10
the chance and now all of that is gone.
51:13
But the crimes did happen and he should
51:15
be in prison. And that isn't even just
51:17
the fact that he stole a president or
51:19
tried to steal a presidential election,
51:20
nearly get his vice president killed
51:21
with a fake elector scheme, but it goes
51:23
well beyond that as well. In any event,
51:26
it is this unwillingness to
51:27
unwillingness to punish elites. It is
51:29
this unwillingness to punish negative
51:31
political actors. It is this
51:33
unwillingness to face the fact that the
51:36
only way for governments like this to
51:37
sustain credibility to sustain uh
51:41
themselves to to make progress forward.
51:45
The only way to do that is you must rid
51:48
the cancer from the political element
51:50
when the time comes and when the time
51:52
comes for a change in power eradicating
51:55
the scourge that is MAGA from the
51:57
government and from the country in terms
51:59
of uh minimizing the amount of power
52:01
that they have through of course all
52:04
legal means but minimizing it. This is
52:06
this is the number one goal. This has to
52:09
be and for those who the bleeding edge
52:11
of it who've been committing crimes they
52:12
need to go to jail. Yeah. all of them.
52:16
So that is my view.
52:19
Uh was John McCain right?
52:22
Well,
52:25
he was right at the time
52:27
and I interviewed him in 2018. It's on
52:30
MMA Fighting. You can still see the
52:32
interview. I think I I think I saw it
52:34
like a couple years ago. I think it was
52:36
still up. I interviewed John McCain
52:38
then. And in that interview, he said, "I
52:41
am satisfied with the way that the MMA
52:45
world and UFC had cleaned up its act."
52:46
He meant like with health and safety,
52:48
you know, um, and of course, this is
52:51
pre, you know, insane right-wing turn.
52:56
So, he was like, I'm satisfied with it.
52:58
Because I was I interviewed him. I was
53:00
there for an announcement about the
53:02
Cleveland Clinic brain study and McCain
53:04
was there and he spoke about it and all
53:06
the efforts that all the promoters were
53:08
in doing it and I was asked him you know
53:10
famously you called it human [ __ ]
53:11
fighting and now look at it how how do
53:13
you feel about it? He was like I'm
53:14
satisfied. I'm satisfied with the
53:15
changes that they've made. So in a sense
53:16
he was right both times you know.
53:19
Uh does this mean we can complain about
53:21
MMA talk in the LTGP chat the way the
53:23
Chuds complain about politics in the
53:26
other chat? Thanks for getting this one
53:28
started. Um,
53:30
if you don't want to talk about the MMA
53:32
talk, then just don't talk about the MMA
53:34
talk. You know what I mean? How about
53:35
that? All right, I'm going to call this
53:38
a day. This is my third broadcast. So,
53:41
let me just set this up one more time.
53:44
Number one, I have this interview with
53:45
Kareem Zadon on Substack. It's available
53:47
to all. Everyone can go get it. Number
53:48
one. Number two, the live chat I just
53:50
had. Number three is this one. I'm going
53:52
to have some kind of tape study thing on
53:55
my uh on my Substack. So stay tuned for
53:59
that. But Friday, so what am I saying?
54:01
Friday, Jesus. Sunday night on my MMA
54:03
channel, fullc card watch along and then
54:06
postfight show and then I'll have post
54:07
fight either live show or postfight
54:09
reflections here thereafter strictly on
54:10
the political lens. We're going to break
54:12
down every political angle of the whole
54:15
thing. Okay? So it's going to be [ __ ]
54:17
great. I can't wait to have the freedom
54:20
to lean into that discussion. All right,
54:22
thank you all so much. I really
54:24
appreciate it. I'm out of here and um
54:27
we'll get this going more regularly,
54:29
especially now that this event is upon
54:32
us. If you're going to go, be safe, have
54:34
fun, and I'll talk to you soon. Bye all.