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Random Heathen Ramblings: S4, EP24 - Finding Purpose Through Fitness (feat. David Messano) · Random Heathen Ramblings

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  Hello everyone, and welcome to the Random Heathenry Ramblings
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  podcast, where we discuss all sorts of things dramatic
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  Heathenry related. My name is Jesse.
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  Heathen centric. You know what I'm saying.
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  Like they're I think a lot of folks who are die hard Recon
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  hardcore Recon Heathens would have a lot to say about.
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  What I do here, but it is random, you know, random being
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  the operative word ramblings of a heathen and sometimes my
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  heathenry branches off into other aspects of spirituality
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  and stuff. And that's what we've been
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  seeing some somewhat lately. If you've been following the
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  podcast and hearing or seeing some of who we've had on here,
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  you'll notice that, you know, we we're we're branching off a
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  little bit. We're we're reaching out a
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  little bit last time. We had Benjamin Davidson who
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  does dream readings or dream interpretations.
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  It's very possible that will be featured on one of his upcoming
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  episodes on his. I think it's the Dreamscapes,
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  but it's his, it's his YouTube channel.
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  But Dreamscapes is is the platform, not the platform.
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  What I'm trying to say the the playlist, there we go, the
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  playlist that his dream interpretations and all that are
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  on, I think. Anyway, check his stuff out.
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  Benjamin the dream wizard, Davidson.
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  But anyways, today's episode is not about Benjamin.
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  We got someone who's also not heathen coming onto the show
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  here in just a moment. His name is David Masano.
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  Believe he is a like a fitness coach.
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  He has some content out. I believe we're going to find
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  out more what his. You know where you can find him,
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  his platforms and all that. I want to say he might also have
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  a podcast. I'm going to confirm that once
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  we get him on here because if he does and you know fitness and
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  all that is, is, is your wheelhouse and you really like
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  to pick someone's brain or or or or see what other people in the
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  fitness circuits are doing. And he's going to be the one to
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  to check out. But the reason why he's going to
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  be on here today is not just about the fitness and and
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  finding you know. Help through fitness and and
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  finding ways to improve our quality of life through fitness.
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  But also his background is a bit of an interesting story and I'm
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  going to wait to elaborate more on that once he gets on here to
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  talk about his background his whole life.
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  I think he is a military veteran, younger guy, but a
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  military veteran nonetheless. He also comes from a pretty
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  large family. I want to say his.
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  Family. He is one of either 8 or 11
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  children and so yeah it was like I I read his bio and and and
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  learned a little bit about him from what information he shares
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  on on his platforms and I thought man this would be a
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  great guy to have come on here. He did reach out to me first.
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  So thank you David for reaching out to to ask about coming on
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  the show because I guess from the description of.
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  What he had seen online about you know what this podcast is
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  about. He he he had some interest in in
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  wanting to to learn a bit more about it.
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  So you know this could be a an interesting podcast, something a
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  little bit different to talk about things again not hidden
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  related but who knows. It is a heathen podcast so we
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  always somehow find a way to get there.
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  So it would be great. We'd greatly appreciate it.
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  So don't don't want to you know waste any more time or delay any
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  further. So joining me today, I'm going
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  to be welcoming in David Masano he's a fitness coach I think.
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  But yes, welcome to the show, David Masano.
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  Let's get into it. All right folks.
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  Well, like I was saying earlier on in the intro, we've got a.
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  A new kind of guest on the show today.
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  We've got David Masano, young gentleman out on the West Coast,
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  who is the the face and the inspiration, I guess behind is
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  it Vinnie Vidi, Vici, is that right?
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  Fitness? Yes.
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  All right, cool. So, David, welcome to the Random
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  Heat and Ramblings podcast. Man, thanks for joining us
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  today. Thanks for having me and thank
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  you. Absolutely.
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  So I think it would be great to just give the people that are
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  watching and listening. A little bit about yourself.
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  You and I talked a little bit before, you know something about
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  your background. But I guess let's start, if you
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  don't mind, with this, this Vinny Vidi vici, I don't know,
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  that's a Latin, if I'm remembering correctly, it means
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  something. Why don't you elaborate?
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  Explain to people. Yeah, so it's actually there's
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  two Latin quotes that really have stuck with me.
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  It's that one which means I came, I saw, I conquered.
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  I'm very adamant about that. When I do, when I do see
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  something. And I want it.
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  I'm going to conquer it. So that's like the whole meaning
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  behind the fitness part, the nutrition and the mindset.
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  The other one is cosito, ergo soon is.
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  I thought, therefore I am, which is also very clear to my heart.
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  So basically, like that's what my teaching is around.
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  Basically we go from changing up your nutrition and you're
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  working out. And sometimes we don't even
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  change and or add any type of workouts into your nutrition.
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  Because if you think of it, when people are super overweight,
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  like tons and tons of pounds on them, like 300 pounds, you think
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  they're going to want to go to the gym.
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  No. So why would you send somebody
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  to the gym when they don't want to go?
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  Why not make it easier? That's why a lot of these
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  fitness gurus are just like, I don't.
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  I think they understand what they're doing.
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  Sometimes it's don't go to the gym.
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  If you're 300 pounds, start with your nutrition and sometimes you
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  could do nutrition with them and they never even go to the gym
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  and get in better shape than most people.
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  And that's what I try to do, is try to show people how simple
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  and it can be, how simple it could be to just go to the gym.
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  My main thing too is that I show people to have fun with it.
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  I had a client, actually, my biggest result.
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  I had with the client was I had him show up at the gym and as
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  soon as he showed up the rule was he had to leave.
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  And he did that for three months and lost £45.00 because sooner
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  or later he started wanting to work out.
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  So it's all about incorporating habits, incorporating things
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  into the program of our subconscious and when you start
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  to program you can't change yourself with the same self that
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  you are. That's it's almost impossible to
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  do, It's like drug withdrawal. So you have to learn how to do
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  things that will change and alter you that you can't see.
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  And that's what a coach is for. So that's kind of what I I build
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  my things around. Like people think, oh, you need
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  to cut out this candy. You need to cut out all this bad
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  processed food and it's like, no, you don't.
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  There's a few tweaks that you need to make from that.
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  Maybe eat less of that, but you can still eat it.
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  I see. So you seem to have a pretty
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  lighthanded approach. With a strong vision in mind,
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  you know, it's not all just gung ho running their guns blazing,
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  you know, let's see how much we can lift that sort of thing.
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  Unless they want to. It all depends and I make
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  everyone take a test before I when I get on that call with
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  them, I have to really understand who I'm working with.
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  So if it's somebody that's like. I need to lose this weight
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  because I'm addicted or I need to get away from this vice and I
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  need to change. I need to make a new habit.
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  I want to try out the gym or my relationship with my family or a
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  divorce is going to happen. Or I'm going to lose my business
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  or job because I mostly work with business owners.
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  That's my main focus is I work with family, business owners
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  and. Usually it's people that are
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  overweight that don't have enough energy to actually go
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  through the day and work on their business.
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  Or people that are struggling to keep their family life
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  incorporated with their business and it's soon to be a divorce or
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  their children don't. They don't get enough time with
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  their children. And that's where my job comes in
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  is. I teach them how to incorporate
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  a little bit of gym, how to incorporate a little bit of
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  nutrition and make little tweaks to change their physique.
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  Which changes their metabolism, which changes how they feel,
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  which changes how they think about themselves when they look
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  in the mirror. And all these little domino
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  effects change who they are. And like I said, it depends on
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  who the person is. So if their why is like, oh, I
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  need to do this or I'm going to die, we start hitting it pretty
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  hard. Whereas it's like, oh, if I just
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  want to try this out, we'll hit it out and they'll see who I'm
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  about and what I'm about and then we start upping it as time
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  goes on. I like that.
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  So you kind of tailor it to the client, you know what I mean?
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  It's not a textbook, every one-size-fits-all sort of
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  approach they tailored. That's The thing is I think a
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  lot of coaches today think, oh, you need to do it my way because
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  my way worked. But that's not the point of
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  coaching. If you ever and I've had
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  multiple mentors. I'm on my third mentor now and
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  I've paid a lot of people or a lot of money to work personally
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  with experts and. That's the key to success.
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  People want to ask what the fast lane to wealth in and success.
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  It's by somebody that's already where you're at.
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  That's that's how you do it. Work with somebody that you're
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  already that's already where you're at or where you want.
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  To be. Yes, and then you'll get there a
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  lot faster. But my key thing is that I've
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  learned from all my mentors is they don't.
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  It's none of their stuff. Like they don't use any of what
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  they've done. On me, they show me what I'm
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  strong at and then they show me how to incorporate that and make
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  it a lifestyle. And that's what I show people is
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  like, we need to make this a lifestyle.
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  What's the easiest way to make this a lifestyle?
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  Okay. If we make a three to 10% change
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  within ourselves every week, what is that going to look like?
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  And we're going to make, we're going to, I'm going to ask them
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  that question. Okay.
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  What is one thing that you know you can do this week that's easy
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  and simple that will move the needle this week.
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  And I that's that's what I'm here for.
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  I'm here to guide you. I'm here to simply show you
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  that. Okay.
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  Perfect. This is how we're going to do
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  that. This is how we can achieve that
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  and all slowly. It's almost like a therapist.
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  The therapist asked you these different questions and then you
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  finally find the solution. That's what I am.
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  It's because so many, so many people thinking these these.
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  Limited mindsets like I can't get there.
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  I'm too fat, I don't know what I'm doing, things like that.
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  And then my job is to break through that barrier to let them
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  understand, no, you do know what you need to do, and this is how
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  we're going to do it. And we slowly break down those
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  barriers. Then sooner or later, 345
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  months, these people are. Peak level of fitness, that's so
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  easy to make a lifestyle. They don't go to the gym any
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  longer. I've never had a client that
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  went to the gym longer for than 35 minutes a day for five days a
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  week, sometimes only three days a week.
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  And I've never had them cut out candy, I never had them cut out
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  processed food, none of that stuff.
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  You can still eat that. We focus on one goal and one
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  goal only and we get. I give them a calorie count and
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  the only thing we focus on in that calorie count is protein.
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  So let's say I give them a 2200 calorie Macro nutrient plan and
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  then in that calorie plan you have to get 180 grams of
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  protein. Protein is not is it is not a
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  dense, calorie dense food. So let's say you eat your 180
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  grams of protein and that only took up about 1200 calories for
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  the day. You now have almost 1000
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  calories left to eat. So what can you do?
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  You just backfill that you can eat candy, but just make sure
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  you just stay in the calorie count.
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  You can eat all that unhealthy food, but make sure you get your
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  protein intake. You know what I'm saying?
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  So we don't focus on fat, we don't focus on carbs, we focus
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  on your protein and then you can backfill from there.
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  Do you think that you know being so?
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  I guess like lean. I don't say lenient because I
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  know there's structure and and I know that there's like a plan in
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  place, but. But I'm what I'm getting from
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  you is, is, you know you're not like so rigid I guess with it.
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  You know like there's again, everything's tailored to the
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  person. But do you think that when
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  people start to take control of their fitness and their Wellness
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  and their health and they start realizing that yeah, I can eat
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  some of these things. Do you think that eventually
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  like the mind kicks over and is like, but I don't need that
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  crap. I don't need that process junk I
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  can do. I can fill the those gaps.
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  I can fill that. Caloric intake with better
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  quality things versus just something to fill a space.
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  Does that happen for you with your clients and?
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  Not only so, everything that I've teach my clients is what
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  I've done. Anything that I tell my client
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  I've never, It's not something that I haven't done before.
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  So I've tried so many diets. My key thing is I go around
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  trying new diets to give the exact experience of what it's
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  truly like. This recent diet that I've been
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  on, I I'm actually working out towards something.
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  It started out as a 12 hour fast with a what was it keto?
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  So it was a 12 hour fast with keto.
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  And that's what I did. It was just keto and a 12 hour
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  fast. Very simple.
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  I had a calorie deficit. But with keto you are able to
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  retain more fat. So it's it's a lot more fat.
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  Which the way it works is truly amazing and I know a lot of
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  people hate keto, but if. You I've messed around with it.
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  Yeah, the key thing, the thing that I liked the most about it
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  was the mental. The mental clarity that I had
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  with it. I felt so mentally clear.
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  The difference though, I didn't like it at the start because it
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  was the withdrawals were were real at the start, but once you
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  get past the withdrawal part. It's it's different.
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  You start to feel good. You're mentally clear.
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  You don't and the the key thing about keto is you're trying to
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  keep control of your your insulin and glycogen levels
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  which is your energy level and basically when you have carbs it
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  usually spikes but there's ways to work around with that like
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  athletes need carbs so it's different but.
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  When you're on keto, basically you never, your insulin levels
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  are not fluctuating because you have no carbs in you.
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  So it's just really high fat and really high protein.
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  But the proteins are a lot leaner, it's more so a lot of
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  fat, which helps you just slim down.
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  And I've had the the most amazing transformation I had was
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  a lady that lost £100 in a year. Never like she went from fat to
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  skinny extremely fast. And it was.
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  It made me cry. It was crazy because she not.
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  That wasn't the only thing that changed.
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  Her relationship changed. She got a new job.
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  She became closer with their family.
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  And that's that's what I go for. I you're going to look good
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  either way. But when you look good and feel
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  good and think better, everything else in your life is
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  going to be better. But.
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  He thing with like I just started, I got into the
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  carnivore diet. I don't know if you know the
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  cardboard diet, it's very, very simple and it's it's based off
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  of like a northern Icelandic diet and all way back in the
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  day. So it you can have fruit.
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  The more extremist with the diet, they don't.
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  It's literally all it is is meat, salt and water.
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  That's all you can have. But that you can eat whatever
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  you want so you basically eat intuitively.
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  And the crazy thing is, you'll lose tons of weight because
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  protein keeps you fuller and you get a lot of fat.
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  Oh, you can eat butter too. So the other you need to eat
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  butter with it to get enough fat.
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  Because now you're fat. Your source of energy is coming
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  from fat. From.
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  Fat Exactly. You can eat whatever you want on
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  the diet and I lost £2.00 like I didn't have much to lose, but I
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  was 178 pounds. I lost £2.00 in two weeks.
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  And lost almost. I was 6% body fat when I
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  started. I lost another percent of body
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  fat, eating way more calories than I was actually eating on
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  the keto diet. And it was crazy to me, but I'm
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  actually, I I'm a CrossFit athlete too.
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  So I work out a lot because I compete in competitions.
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  But the main thing with with a diet, a lot of people think, oh,
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  I can do this for a month and I'm good.
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  No. Like, you kind of have to get
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  acclimated. Your body has to get acclimated.
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  Like, I put myself through a lot with these different nights to
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  show people exactly what happened.
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  Instead of just giving him this number and these different,
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  these different analytics, I show them what it's exactly like
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  and I give him real feedback. This is what happens.
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  This is how I feel. I made a lot of mess ups, like
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  when I first started the Carnivore.
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  I tried to get off of caffeine at the exact same time, which
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  was a huge mistake. You don't want to withdraw from
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  caffeine the same time you're changing your diet.
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  It. Really messed up your chemicals,
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  your hormones. I tell you, I did something one
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  time not to and I'll let you continue, but just to insert
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  something here, I did something one time.
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  It was like a total body cleanse plan.
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  It was like it was a 21 day long program.
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  And there were supplements and stuff that they you know so you
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  buy this kit. Beach body I think was the name
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  of I don't know if you ever heard of it, okay but they send
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  you like supplements and and and you know it I hated it.
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  I was I was miserable for you know two week throughout 3 weeks
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  basically I lost like £15.00 but but it wasn't sustainable and
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  that's what that's what I always get.
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  I'm like this is it. It was great I guess for just
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  like if you wanted to I don't know do like a hard reset.
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  On your body. Like, because it cuts
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  everything. Eventually it cuts everything
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  out. Like, I stopped drinking
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  alcohol, no caffeine, no other stimulants like tobacco.
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  So you know, vaping, Nothing like that.
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  I mean, I pretty much like changed my diet overnight and
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  took out all of the other extracurricular components to my
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  life, and I guess I got used to it at some point.
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  But I was like, I can't wait for this this fucking thing to be
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  over. Because it was, it was like, it
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  just. It felts like a chore, you know
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  what I mean? And I, I don't know how you've
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  encountered with people that probably come to you having done
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  other diet plans and stuff and they're like, I don't want this
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  to be another fad. Or, you know, it's just
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  something that I start overnight and you'll start one day and
• 21:03
  then, you know, a week or so later, I'm, I'm burnt out on it,
• 21:07
  right. Yeah, that's that's that's the
• 21:09
  key is a lot of these gurus now they're like do it my way and.
• 21:15
  I I joined a group and that's kind of how it is.
• 21:19
  Like, excuse my language, but they'll just say, oh, you're
• 21:22
  just being a bitch. Like, you know, it's you're not
• 21:25
  man enough or you're not disciplined enough or you don't
• 21:27
  want it bad enough. And yes, you can say that, you
• 21:30
  can say that, but realistically, is that what we're going for?
• 21:33
  Like is that what we want to be known for?
• 21:36
  Like what? You can definitely put pressure
• 21:39
  on them. There's definitely clients where
• 21:42
  it's like okay, this is what we're gonna work on this week.
• 21:45
  I always make small implementations like for example
• 21:49
  if I were get if somebody came up to me right now and they had.
• 21:56
  Like candy addiction. They drunk 6 beers a night, they
• 22:00
  drunk a six pack, they drunk tons of alcohol and barely any
• 22:05
  really healthy food and all of it was like top ramen, things
• 22:09
  like that. The first thing and they don't
• 22:12
  work out. The first thing I'm going to do
• 22:14
  is not tell them cut all the drinking out.
• 22:17
  It's it's it's slow. Withdrawals want to remember
• 22:21
  three to 10% depending on where they're at, Like, if they want
• 22:25
  to, if they say, hey, like my relationships going in the
• 22:29
  gutter and I'm about to lose my wife, I need to get in shape and
• 22:32
  stop doing this stuff. We're going to be a little more
• 22:34
  extreme. Where is there?
• 22:37
  Like, I just want to see if this will work.
• 22:39
  I heard that you know what you're doing, OK Like we're
• 22:42
  going to change what's one thing that you know that you can do?
• 22:47
  This week. That'll change for you.
• 22:49
  Okay, You drink all this alcohol.
• 22:51
  Let's just cut back a little bit and drink more water.
• 22:54
  Then by the end of the week, let's see how you feel.
• 22:57
  I want you to tell me how you feel.
• 22:59
  Oh, you feel better. Perfect.
• 23:01
  Okay, now you're sleeping better too.
• 23:03
  Oh, even better. Like now we're seeing it's it's
• 23:06
  wins. You got to you got to accumulate
• 23:09
  all these little wins. And sooner or later you're going
• 23:11
  to start thinking clear, feeling better, sleeping better, and all
• 23:15
  this little stuff. You're going to be like, oh, I
• 23:18
  don't. I don't want to go back to that
• 23:19
  other stuff. That's what happened to me when
• 23:21
  I first got into fitness and nutrition.
• 23:23
  I was addicted to weed. I wouldn't even say I don't even
• 23:26
  think you could get addicted to weed.
• 23:29
  But yeah, I was smoked a lot of weed.
• 23:31
  I drunk alcohol. These were my vices.
• 23:34
  But I love people that come to me.
• 23:38
  That have an emotional attachment to food.
• 23:41
  Why? Because that was me.
• 23:44
  And when you learn to go inside of yourself and deal with the
• 23:47
  true problem of why am I actually eating all this food,
• 23:52
  then you start to understand why like what you need to change.
• 23:57
  For me, I always had this an emotional attachment.
• 24:00
  I was bullied when I was a kid. So my biggest thing was I wanted
• 24:03
  to get big and strong so no one would ever mess with me again.
• 24:06
  And that's. I look like this big jacked 185
• 24:09
  pound dude and no one will mess with me, you know, that's that
• 24:12
  was what I wanted to go. But then when I when I'm around
• 24:15
  food that grew up so much in me that I needed to eat and eat and
• 24:20
  eat because I was just a skinny kid when I first when I was
• 24:22
  getting bullied. And then when I started packing
• 24:25
  on muscle, I had to eat and eat and eat and eat.
• 24:27
  And then I made myself feel bad that when I didn't eat because
• 24:31
  then I was going to be like, I'm getting, going to get bullied.
• 24:34
  Then it became a subconscious thing that I was unconsciously
• 24:37
  eating all this food, that whenever food was next to me, I
• 24:40
  just start munching on food and it made me a sensation of
• 24:44
  feeling better. But when you start to become
• 24:46
  conscious about these things, they get a lot easier to deal
• 24:49
  with. But it's little small
• 24:52
  implementations you change. Like when I did this carnivore
• 24:55
  diet, the first week was the hardest, but then I started
• 24:59
  incorporating just eating. Just let my body intuitively
• 25:03
  tell me when I'm full and protein makes you fuller a lot
• 25:07
  faster and I got even more shredded than I was.
• 25:11
  I'm at about 5% body fat but even more shredded than I was on
• 25:15
  a normal diet. And I feel the biggest thing is
• 25:19
  my energy levels, excuse me, are peaked like I've never felt
• 25:24
  better. And on top of that, my my
• 25:27
  performance in the gym has went up.
• 25:29
  I feel mentally clear and I love it.
• 25:32
  But the next part I'm going into what is called an OMAD.
• 25:36
  I don't know if you know it, the OMAD diet.
• 25:39
  But I don't think I've heard of that.
• 25:41
  One, it's like the last part of the diet.
• 25:43
  It's it's not extreme, but it takes a while to get used to.
• 25:50
  They a lot of, I've heard a lot of people that do these, and
• 25:52
  they most of them are monks. A lot of them are monks.
• 25:56
  But there are elite athletes that do this too.
• 26:01
  The omad diet is basically you only one meal a day, but it's a
• 26:05
  ginormous meal. Like it's yeah and you all.
• 26:09
  Your calories for the day, Yes. Oh wow.
• 26:11
  But it's it's a massive meal. Like, it's a very, very big
• 26:15
  meal. And then you fast for the rest
• 26:17
  of the day. And basically the first week
• 26:22
  I've always, from what I've known and seeing the different
• 26:25
  experts that have done it in the different most of them, like I
• 26:28
  said, are people that live in the forest, people that are
• 26:31
  monks, people that are very extreme athletes and those are
• 26:35
  the ones on this type of diet. But the OMAD diet is like it's
• 26:40
  next level. A lot of people think that or a
• 26:42
  lot of people say how they start to feel after a month of just
• 26:46
  being on it. And what it does to their body
• 26:49
  and not only their body, what they start to do to get away.
• 26:52
  Like they get away from that sensation of trying to eat food.
• 26:55
  But would I throw somebody on the OMAD diet right away?
• 26:59
  Definitely not. Like yeah, not not happening
• 27:02
  ever. Unless like of course you've
• 27:04
  practiced this because it's like it's literally like a 23 hour
• 27:08
  fast and they just gorge on food.
• 27:11
  And then you go straight back into it.
• 27:14
  And the the reason why you gorge on food at night is because you
• 27:18
  gorge on so much food that you just knock out and then go to
• 27:22
  sleep very full wake up the first the first week they say
• 27:26
  you wake up extremely hungry all the time, but it's just little
• 27:31
  little increments that you make towards success.
• 27:34
  Yeah, yeah. Trying different things and that
• 27:37
  almost sounds like. Like maybe what would have been
• 27:41
  more of a a primal way of life, You know, because if you think
• 27:45
  about just what we have access to as a, as a, you know, modern
• 27:49
  humanity, I mean, everything is so readily available.
• 27:52
  You're hungry, you can open up your fridge or open up your
• 27:55
  cabinet, your pantry, go to the store, drive through a fast food
• 27:59
  place. I mean, everything is so easily
• 28:01
  accessible. Whereas, you know, not even all
• 28:04
  that long ago, you know, the. Families had to you know, cook
• 28:09
  and prepare their meals or grow their own foods if they wanted
• 28:12
  to eat. It wasn't, it wasn't like I'm
• 28:14
  hungry. Let's just open up the the ice
• 28:16
  box or the freezer and and cook something.
• 28:18
  It was if you were hungry you had to go catch it or go pick it
• 28:21
  out of your garden or go to your root cellar where things were
• 28:24
  stored during the non growth seasons, right.
• 28:27
  The winter, the leaner months and and and prepare something,
• 28:30
  everything. You had to work for it and I
• 28:32
  think that. Now here and today in in modern
• 28:35
  times is you know a lot of people become so complacent.
• 28:37
  I mean we're all guilty of it. I'm not I'm not trying to say
• 28:39
  like I'm better than you because I've got to do the same thing
• 28:42
  you know oh I'm hungry open up the fridge see what's in there.
• 28:45
  But I've also grown up in a in a with a lifestyle that you know I
• 28:49
  I worked on a farm for over a decade.
• 28:51
  I everybody in our family or in A and and friends had gardens
• 28:57
  you know what I mean? So I grew up around the the idea
• 29:00
  of living off of the land growing raising harvesting.
• 29:04
  Your own food and it it's so enriching and it's so
• 29:07
  fulfilling, kind of like how you go when you work out, right?
• 29:10
  You're you're exerting physical effort and you feel better about
• 29:16
  the meal that you're about to eat or that you have eaten
• 29:19
  because I earned this, you know, it gives me the energy, the fuel
• 29:22
  to want to go and put it to use, you know?
• 29:25
  And that's what I like about how fitness can can overall help us.
• 29:29
  Holistically, right. It's not just how good we look
• 29:31
  or the physical things that we're capable of doing.
• 29:33
  When we embrace that, it's everything benefits.
• 29:37
  Again, you have a clearer mind you.
• 29:38
  You have a better outlook on life.
• 29:40
  Depression doesn't affect so many people that are focused on
• 29:46
  on health and Wellness. You know, because why they're
• 29:48
  they're feeding their body. They're they're feeding this
• 29:50
  machine with quality things, with good things.
• 29:53
  And so the machine runs better every in and out, inside and
• 29:56
  out, right. And that's that.
• 29:58
  A lot of people think that fitness is to to look better.
• 30:03
  There's scientific proof that after you work out, there's
• 30:05
  serotonin, Serotonin. Really.
• 30:08
  Inside of your body. That and people do not like,
• 30:12
  listen to this. Like this is the number one
• 30:14
  thing why people actually like become gym racks.
• 30:19
  It's not because they enjoy doing it, it's the feeling
• 30:24
  they're after. Yeah, like there's a lot of
• 30:26
  people that go to the gym, like you might think they're happy.
• 30:29
  Like these people that do Iron Mans and these people that do
• 30:33
  these different crazy fleets of marathons and triathlons, That
• 30:38
  is, you have something deep you're dealing with and that's
• 30:41
  how they deal with it. And I've, I've known a lot of,
• 30:45
  like there's a lady I've, I don't remember off the top of my
• 30:48
  head what her name is, but she runs triathlons and eats
• 30:53
  whatever she wants. But I mean, you can do that when
• 30:55
  you're a triathlon runner. Like you're burning through,
• 30:58
  yeah. Yeah, she eats whatever.
• 31:00
  She drinks beer, eats what you can do that.
• 31:03
  But you look at her and she looks like a normal person.
• 31:07
  She enjoys eating, she enjoys having fun, she goes out, she
• 31:11
  enjoys life. But when you watch her work out,
• 31:14
  she has a demon inside of her, like definitely tormenting her.
• 31:19
  And that's what people don't understand like.
• 31:22
  A lot of people's lives, like, I had stopped working out for a
• 31:25
  while and I realized I couldn't hold that up.
• 31:27
  Like, you kind of get addicted to the feeling of actually
• 31:31
  working out. Because like, every day I try to
• 31:34
  put this message out there, like I will make your workout fun, I
• 31:38
  will make them interesting. You don't have to be there long.
• 31:42
  My goal is to get you in the gym, get you out of the gym,
• 31:45
  make you feel good, and you go and conquer that day.
• 31:49
  I go, I could be like having a bad mood, be in a bad mood.
• 31:53
  I go touch some weight, man, let's, let's go have a party
• 31:57
  like this is the best. Why is that serotonin chemical
• 32:01
  release in your body and it just lights you up.
• 32:05
  And that's what people don't understand.
• 32:06
  They think, oh, like these people are just working out just
• 32:09
  to look good. That's not at all true.
• 32:11
  Like byproduct of it, it's a yeah, I mean it happens, so
• 32:15
  yeah. It's like a nice, exactly.
• 32:16
  But even, like in the Viking days, like.
• 32:19
  Those people, the Romans, like the great athletes.
• 32:22
  When they worked out like that, they got addicted to it, like
• 32:25
  that was their way of getting away because you actually feel.
• 32:29
  Something I've also felt that with with doing any sort of
• 32:35
  constructive constructive behavior, constructive activity,
• 32:38
  right. Anything that that you because
• 32:42
  like let's face it there there is a mental aspect to fitness
• 32:46
  right. I mean you're you're.
• 32:49
  Calculating, you know reps you're doing things like you're
• 32:52
  counting like I'm saying like there's cognitive things going
• 32:55
  on in your mind. But anything like that, whether
• 32:58
  it's gardening, whether it's hiking any any sort of physical
• 33:01
  activity, right? Doesn't even have to be going to
• 33:03
  the gym per se, but it does it it it releases those feel good.
• 33:08
  You know that though, that your dopamine levels rise.
• 33:11
  Is that serotonin's release that you feel overall just.
• 33:14
  Better about things and I you know I've I've worked out not
• 33:17
  recently but I I used to be as a kid I was I I I had a propensity
• 33:22
  to just be a little pudgy. And my uncle at the time you
• 33:27
  know he was like come with weights with me and you know he
• 33:31
  had like a gym in his in his house and he also had a
• 33:34
  membership but we would work out in his basement and he
• 33:37
  eventually has like he had gotten to the point where he had
• 33:40
  like a full. Gym in his, in his basement.
• 33:43
  Man. Like, you know, Smith machines,
• 33:46
  you know, leg presses, benches, the everything, dumbbells, free
• 33:49
  weights, just everything. And it was like, come and do
• 33:54
  this with me. And that's when I was a kid,
• 33:55
  man. I'm like, I'm talking like 1314
• 33:57
  years old maybe. And that's what got me hooked on
• 34:01
  it and I. I I worked out like I would get
• 34:04
  up and I would go work on the farm.
• 34:05
  I'd go to my regular job, which was very physically demanding.
• 34:08
  And then I would get off work and I would go work out and I
• 34:11
  look back and I'm like I didn't even need to cuz of from all the
• 34:14
  work that I was doing on the farm or or at my job.
• 34:17
  He was all very physically at at you know, demanding work and
• 34:20
  labor. But something about going to the
• 34:23
  gym, something about going and and doing it for the fun of it.
• 34:26
  Not to create something, not to build something, but just to
• 34:30
  like, I don't know, just. Just do it, you know and it it's
• 34:34
  like it does something to you. You know I I felt really good
• 34:37
  about it in course, you know the results of which were I wasn't
• 34:42
  pledging anymore, right. I was cut.
• 34:44
  I was ripped. I could lift more weight but for
• 34:47
  my size than what the the average person would think, you
• 34:51
  know I was maybe like $1.45 at the time, you know.
• 34:54
  But I was I was I was lifting you know 3-4 times my weight.
• 34:59
  Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?
• 35:00
  And people are like, how is that little squirt able to do that?
• 35:02
  I'm like just, you know. Yeah, being that.
• 35:07
  Active. So then, OK, you you grew up on
• 35:10
  a farm. Did you guys ever eat?
• 35:12
  Did you guys eat breakfast? Yeah, actually.
• 35:16
  So it was a beef farm. So we raised beef cattle.
• 35:20
  And so I we would, I would usually get up like before the
• 35:24
  sun would come up, you know, So it was really early.
• 35:26
  I wouldn't eat, then I would go, we would go do our chores.
• 35:30
  But then we would have a midmorning, like around 8:00 or
• 35:32
  so, we would stop our chores and and then have something to eat,
• 35:36
  some some sort of breakfast, you know.
• 35:39
  And then I would come back home and and feel up for the day.
• 35:42
  I would have like a second breakfast, if you will.
• 35:45
  But there was always, yeah, there was always like something
• 35:47
  there, whether it was, you know, pancakes or whether it was, you
• 35:52
  know, some kind of whole grain something, you know, something
• 35:54
  like a like a buckwheat heavy, you know, something really.
• 35:58
  Sit. Sit heavy with you, but give you
• 35:59
  that energy. Yeah, to do all that stuff.
• 36:02
  But yeah, we did. Yeah, that was so the main
• 36:05
  reason why I crazy question. I asked it because I just like
• 36:09
  got into this understanding like I fast for a reason.
• 36:13
  I just don't. I think there's so many
• 36:17
  scientific researches, not even just scientific, but anybody
• 36:21
  that actually does fast they they start to realize what it
• 36:25
  does for you. But even at people that work out
• 36:28
  when they start to fast, if you were to do just one, I think, I
• 36:32
  think it's a 19 to 36 hour fast once a week.
• 36:37
  Your growth hormones triple and jerk that short amount of time
• 36:41
  and like that was my biggest thing.
• 36:43
  I know we had just started talking about previously right
• 36:46
  before that last topic was about the just going out and hunting
• 36:51
  for your food and getting your stuff.
• 36:53
  So there's actually people and everyone keeps going to visit
• 36:57
  them. It's it's all over YouTube, but
• 36:59
  a lot of very like the that meat eating guy, like primal guy,
• 37:05
  forget his name. Liver King.
• 37:08
  Yes, liver. Ryan Johnson went out there.
• 37:10
  Yeah. The modern day primitive tribes
• 37:12
  in like Africa or or South America and different places,
• 37:16
  yeah. And if if you see what they do
• 37:18
  like, it's literally like there was a I think his name is David
• 37:22
  Chu. I was listening to the Joe Rogan
• 37:25
  podcast and he said he had went out there to go live with them
• 37:27
  for a while and what he found out was just how simple their
• 37:32
  life was, like, they would wake up.
• 37:35
  And I'm not saying that I want to do that or any like, but if
• 37:39
  that's that's what you want to do, go try it.
• 37:40
  I love trying new things. That's my thing.
• 37:43
  I want to try it out for myself, see if it's true.
• 37:46
  But he was just talking about how simple their life was.
• 37:48
  They had the first week he went through like withdrawal, like
• 37:52
  with his electronics and just city life and things like that.
• 37:56
  And then he just came down and just like was very calm, very
• 38:00
  relaxed the second week. And all they did was just.
• 38:04
  Run to get their food all morning.
• 38:07
  They would hunt for their food, come back at night, have a
• 38:10
  celebration for the food the men caught and eat and then go to
• 38:13
  sleep and do it all over again. And it was like, man like,
• 38:17
  that's crazy. But not only that, like a lot of
• 38:21
  people that have gone out there are scientists, and not only
• 38:23
  scientists but athletes have gone out there.
• 38:26
  And they talk about the athletic performance and the the physical
• 38:30
  structure of these people and all they eat is it's meat, honey
• 38:35
  and I think fruits and that's literally like the carnivore
• 38:38
  diet. Like the carnivore diet is
• 38:40
  basically to it's animal products, but it's to replicate
• 38:44
  how it used to be back in the day.
• 38:45
  Like they they ate mostly meat because that was all that was
• 38:49
  there. And then during certain seasons
• 38:51
  of the the year you would get fruits and stuff from berries
• 38:54
  and things like that. So, but if you see these people
• 38:58
  like, they're ripped. Just the most.
• 39:02
  Ripped black people like they're massive, like the most athletic
• 39:07
  people I've ever seen. Like they're better than a lot
• 39:10
  of them. They had did like some studies
• 39:13
  on their vertical jumps and some of them have 60 just standing in
• 39:18
  place. It's almost like a 5060 inch
• 39:21
  vertical jump. On top of that, they they just
• 39:24
  climb trees like monkeys. They have different like things
• 39:28
  inside of their they have different.
• 39:30
  I forget what it was, but it's like some biomes in their body
• 39:34
  that they're able to go and grab honey from the bees and when the
• 39:38
  bees sting them, nothing. They don't feel it, yeah.
• 39:41
  And it's like they're ripped, jacked, all that stuff.
• 39:44
  And it's like, that was what really made me go in the the
• 39:47
  carnivore die, I'm like. And it I And the other thing was
• 39:51
  that I'm a big fan of Jordan Peterson.
• 39:54
  And he talked about the different things, the different
• 39:57
  health defects that I had on him.
• 39:59
  I had a few two of the biggest things, three of the biggest
• 40:04
  things that I noticed when I went on the carnivore was after
• 40:07
  the first week. I had a thief that I had been
• 40:09
  dealing with for almost a year now.
• 40:12
  And it was in my it was in my neck.
• 40:14
  It wasn't cancer or anything. It was just a cyst.
• 40:17
  That disappeared. That was the first thing I
• 40:19
  noticed. After a week.
• 40:21
  It disappeared. The other thing I had like a
• 40:24
  small back pain for years now that went away for after and
• 40:29
  I've only been on it for three weeks, but I always usually feel
• 40:32
  it during my workouts. I haven't felt nothing.
• 40:36
  On top of that, my energy and mood levels have never been
• 40:38
  better. I've never.
• 40:40
  I stopped taking caffeine after the first week.
• 40:42
  I was very acclimated to it and I didn't feel like I needed it.
• 40:46
  Do I still have it once in a while?
• 40:47
  Yeah, I I do it like once or twice a week.
• 40:51
  Kind of an enjoyable thing, yeah.
• 40:53
  Like, just for sure, Yeah. But that's like that was like
• 40:56
  the key thing is like, that's why I try it.
• 40:59
  And then even with the OMAD, that's the next level thing I
• 41:01
  want to really see and give people feedback of what it
• 41:04
  really is because. Yeah.
• 41:05
  I mean we keep having these certifications or these
• 41:07
  scientists tell us this is you shouldn't do this because of
• 41:10
  research. But I feel like until you really
• 41:13
  understanding, you try it out and I understand that some
• 41:16
  things you can't try out, you're not really going to know how it
• 41:19
  feels or what it does for your body, you know.
• 41:22
  So I that's like my main goal is I.
• 41:25
  Everything that I tell people and everything that I give to
• 41:27
  people I've experienced and try to go through with the fullest.
• 41:31
  And whenever I go on a diet I try it like even the carnivore.
• 41:35
  It should last at least six months just to get the full
• 41:38
  effect and give a good example of what it's like.
• 41:41
  But and a lot of people say ohh like you can't sustain a no carb
• 41:46
  diet like that because it's zero carbs in your diet.
• 41:49
  It's all protein and all fat and.
• 41:52
  People are like oh like there's unique carbs for energy.
• 41:56
  Beg to differ. I've I thought I was going to
• 41:59
  crash. That was my first thought is
• 42:01
  like I was going to be slumped. The first day I felt massive
• 42:05
  fatigue. The second day it all went away.
• 42:08
  And then after that I just never really felt anything.
• 42:12
  And then a lot of people say oh like your gut's going to get
• 42:15
  messed up. My blood results came back
• 42:17
  actually better than they were before I started it.
• 42:20
  And it was it was crazy just to see these little effects and
• 42:23
  being able to try out all this stuff.
• 42:25
  Yeah. You're like a walk in testimony,
• 42:27
  you know, and then you can pass on that to your clients, which I
• 42:30
  do want to mention or give you a chance to mention.
• 42:33
  You know, you're talking about all these great things that
• 42:35
  you've experienced and that you use this to help others.
• 42:39
  How do you do that? I mean, so like for people that
• 42:42
  want to, you know, follow you or I'm assuming you have a social
• 42:46
  media platform or platforms that you.
• 42:49
  Share all this stuff on or journal it.
• 42:53
  How do people get in touch with you for this, Or where can
• 42:55
  people find you? Yeah, so I'm mostly biggest on
• 43:00
  Instagram, Still building in Facebook, still building in
• 43:03
  TikTok. I run mostly everything out of
• 43:07
  Instagram though. That's where I communicate
• 43:10
  people can find all my information.
• 43:12
  All on Instagram. It's on Facebook and TikTok too.
• 43:15
  But my Instagram is David under score Masano, one of 18.
• 43:21
  My Facebook. You can just look me up as David
• 43:24
  Masano and then my TikTok is going to be cosito ergo sum.
• 43:30
  Fitness and that's what I go by on TikTok and I'll have that all
• 43:35
  given to you as well. Yeah, it's gonna be linked and
• 43:37
  stuff. You know, I always like to give
• 43:39
  my guests the chance to kind of plug their stuff.
• 43:41
  And you know, for folks listening and watching, you
• 43:44
  know, as as usual, it'll be LinkedIn, the show notes in the
• 43:48
  description. So, you know, we've been talking
• 43:51
  a lot about the what, You know what I mean, like what you do.
• 43:56
  We got into a little bit of an idea of.
• 43:58
  Of the how you know and and going through things, let's talk
• 44:02
  a bit about why. Why fitness?
• 44:06
  Why wealth or health and Wellness?
• 44:08
  What got you to this point in your life to want to pursue this
• 44:12
  as a career. Really.
• 44:15
  I mean, you you, you're taking this really seriously.
• 44:17
  You're not just casual about it. So what?
• 44:19
  But let's get into the why? What brought you there?
• 44:20
  Why? Why are you doing this?
• 44:22
  Yeah, it's it's such a such a deep question and it hits home
• 44:26
  for me because. I had started this journey when
• 44:29
  I was young. I when I was 14, I was actually
• 44:33
  a suicide attempt. I just didn't find any meaning.
• 44:37
  And I know that sounds very young and it was young, but I
• 44:41
  started to become more conscious and understanding of life.
• 44:44
  I grew up in a cult religion with a very big family, 18
• 44:48
  brothers and sisters. 18 Yeah, See, I thought it was something
• 44:52
  I I read your Bible one time, but I.
• 44:55
  Like before you came on and I'm like, I think he's a family of
• 44:58
  it's like 8 or 11. I mean 18.
• 45:00
  That's like a tribe dude. Like that's a that's a that's a
• 45:03
  clan for sure. And there there's so many I will
• 45:07
  never, ever forget. Like it was the best experience
• 45:10
  that you could possibly have. Like it's you're around so many
• 45:15
  different personalities. You're never alone.
• 45:17
  You cannot be alone. You cannot be alone to yourself.
• 45:21
  You can't keep quiet. It's there.
• 45:23
  You're going to be brought out of your shell.
• 45:25
  And that was one thing that I was thankful for being in that
• 45:30
  family is now we have each other, you know, like they know
• 45:34
  me and they know a lot about me. And a lot of what you are when
• 45:37
  you're young doesn't really leave you unless you really make
• 45:41
  a a try or or a conscious effort to make a difference of who you
• 45:46
  were and the things that were brought up in you.
• 45:49
  So one of the biggest things with that religion that I grew
• 45:51
  up in. Is it was very a lot of limiting
• 45:54
  beliefs like you can't be rich if you're rich riches are the
• 45:59
  root of all evil which totally false.
• 46:02
  If you don't believe in God or if you don't become a Christian
• 46:06
  in this religion, you'll go to this fiery depth of hell and
• 46:08
  die. They're forever being tormented.
• 46:11
  And these things lingered with me and I never when I was young
• 46:16
  I was like man, like I don't know if I want to what I wanted
• 46:20
  to do and I was battling this like.
• 46:23
  Am I going to really go to hell or can I go and experience life
• 46:26
  and make a difference because I wanted to make an impact.
• 46:29
  I knew I was a leader as a young kid.
• 46:32
  I was always the captain of the football team.
• 46:34
  I always did the best in the sports.
• 46:36
  I always gave my all, always did the best in school, straight a
• 46:40
  student. I gave everything and I always
• 46:42
  will give everything. But there comes a point where.
• 46:46
  You start to get something that'll battle with you and you
• 46:49
  have to battle with something. And at age 14, I started
• 46:51
  battling with that. I decided to keep going and
• 46:55
  there became fitness. I found a guy by the name of
• 46:59
  Nick Best and he started my passion for fitness and he went
• 47:02
  through the exact same thing. For those that don't know, Nick
• 47:06
  Best is one of the world's strongest man.
• 47:08
  He's in the Masters division, which means he's older than 50
• 47:12
  years old. Has one of these massive duties,
• 47:15
  like 300 pounds squatting, 800 pounds deadlift over £1000, that
• 47:20
  type of stuff. Big dude.
• 47:23
  I met him for the first time when I was starting high school
• 47:27
  in Las Vegas when I was 17 years old and he turned my whole world
• 47:33
  around and just the words that he said will always stick with
• 47:36
  me. He said if I can do it you can
• 47:38
  too. And when I had started this
• 47:41
  journey. I decided to give up.
• 47:43
  I was at 17 years old, I was already smoking weed and
• 47:46
  drinking like there was. I was already deep into that
• 47:49
  stuff. But I decided that if I wanted
• 47:52
  to give that stuff up and have a successful life, I would need to
• 47:56
  give up that. And the way to give that up, I
• 47:58
  would have to replace it with something else.
• 48:00
  And I replaced it with fitness. And fitness became my drug.
• 48:04
  And when I started working out all the time, I slowly started
• 48:08
  to see over time what it did for me.
• 48:11
  And I got to see some amazing fitness people.
• 48:13
  I seen Matt Martin's leases, which is another World's
• 48:16
  Strongest Man competitor in person.
• 48:19
  I got to shake his hand trained at the same Jemison.
• 48:21
  It was an amazing, amazing experience and I got to meet all
• 48:25
  these different people. See bum.
• 48:27
  I got to meet him in person. All these big fitness idols that
• 48:31
  I, I actually, my mentor is actually Wes Watson.
• 48:34
  I a lot of you guys might not know him, but he's a big guy.
• 48:38
  Came out of the penitentiary and now it's just massive 225 pound
• 48:42
  dude, just straight veins. But that's these are the people
• 48:47
  I aspire to be like. And one of the things that my
• 48:50
  mentors told me is to become the person that you admire inside
• 48:55
  and out and then give him to the world.
• 48:58
  And fitness has changed my life. He when I first met Wes Watson
• 49:01
  he had yelled at me multiple times.
• 49:04
  Like get your shit together. Like stop being a bitch like you
• 49:08
  need you have. You have this great thing inside
• 49:11
  of you and you're not giving it to the world.
• 49:14
  Like, what are you scared of? And that's what the Hero's
• 49:16
  Journey is. If anyone were to look up the
• 49:19
  Hero's Journey, there's actually a circle diagram and it goes
• 49:22
  from the the unknown to the OR the known to the unknown.
• 49:26
  And the first part of the Hero's journey is a call to adventure.
• 49:32
  And from the call to adventure you go into, you're still in the
• 49:35
  known, then you meet a mentor and then that mentor starts to
• 49:40
  take you into the unknown. And then the under unknown, you
• 49:44
  start going into trials and tribulations.
• 49:47
  If a lot of you guys read this book that it's the all it's
• 49:51
  called Is the Hero with 1000 Faces is actually the true
• 49:54
  title, A Hero with 1000 Faces. And it's by Joseph Campbell and
• 49:59
  it'll literally take you down. Into where you're at and your
• 50:04
  journey. Everyone's in a different spot.
• 50:06
  Everyone thinks they see these 22 year olds and they see these
• 50:09
  these rich people and they're like, I need to be there.
• 50:12
  But no, if you read The Hero's Journey, you'll start to
• 50:15
  understand that, oh, I'm at this point in my journey and it'll
• 50:19
  start to enlighten you. Okay, that's everything's
• 50:22
  happening exactly in this sequence.
• 50:25
  And that's kind of what he told me to read this book.
• 50:28
  And he gave me the blueprint and told me to follow it every day
• 50:32
  and that if I followed it, things would, it would work out
• 50:34
  for me because of the talents that I had and the true story
• 50:39
  that I had. But one of the things he taught
• 50:40
  me to do is to let talk from the heart.
• 50:43
  There's a gap, you know, There's people that.
• 50:47
  The gap is basically this is who you are to the outside world and
• 50:51
  this is who you are truly inside of yourself.
• 50:54
  And when you close that gap and you're able to give who you are
• 50:57
  inside of the inside of yourself to the world, then everything
• 51:01
  you say, it could be the dumbest thing you ever said.
• 51:04
  People would believe it, but because it's from here and it's
• 51:08
  aligned and there's no gap and you're not having one thing
• 51:11
  inside of yourself and another on the outside, they would
• 51:14
  believe it. Why?
• 51:15
  Because you're in tune and that that's one of the key things is.
• 51:19
  And I, I, I might sound passionate about it, but that's
• 51:22
  truly what it is. I speak from the heart and being
• 51:25
  coming from the point of of death, one of the biggest things
• 51:29
  that I learned is you have to you have to kill yourself
• 51:34
  mentally. You have to be able to kill
• 51:36
  yourself and be reborn mentally again because all those programs
• 51:41
  are running inside of yourself. You have your subconscious
• 51:44
  brain. That is your storage of all the
• 51:45
  data that you had in your life, and those things that you are
• 51:49
  emotionally attached with will stick there until you get over
• 51:52
  it. And that's what The thing is
• 51:54
  like. People think they need to
• 51:55
  overcome their thoughts. It's not overcoming the
• 51:57
  thoughts, it's overcoming the emotion.
• 51:59
  When you overcome the emotion, the thought will immediately go
• 52:02
  away because as soon as you stop giving it at that emotional
• 52:06
  attachment, it has nothing to feed off of anymore.
• 52:09
  And for me it was, it was the biggest relief.
• 52:12
  It's like lifting £1000 off of your chest and you start
• 52:16
  breathing this clear air again, you know?
• 52:18
  And that was for me, that's, that's what it was.
• 52:21
  And when I had met my mentor, he took me into the unknown.
• 52:25
  And that's where you find your journey.
• 52:29
  It's not where things are lightened when you can see the
• 52:33
  path. You're probably on somebody
• 52:35
  else's Rd. You're probably on somebody
• 52:37
  else's journey following their journey.
• 52:39
  But when you go to the darkest path and you go to the path
• 52:41
  where you can't see in front of you, that's your journey.
• 52:44
  And that's what I chose to do. And fitness has become such an
• 52:48
  inspiration. When I first started nutrition,
• 52:51
  I was mentally going through it at that point and I was 20 years
• 52:56
  old and I didn't. I was fit.
• 52:59
  I was a CrossFit athlete. I was very fit.
• 53:02
  Don't get me wrong, I was competing already and I felt
• 53:05
  really good mentally. I didn't feel really good and I
• 53:08
  always woke up, worked out, but I always felt like just fatigued
• 53:13
  and drained. After the workout I couldn't do
• 53:15
  anything. I needed a nap in the afternoon
• 53:18
  and then I started to change my nutrition and everything, my
• 53:22
  mentality about life, the way I worked and all of that stuff.
• 53:26
  So that's why I'm so passionate and I my goal.
• 53:30
  Is to become that person. And I live that person every day
• 53:34
  and I give that person to the world and that's my goal, is to
• 53:38
  become the person I totally admire inside and out and give
• 53:41
  him to the world. Yeah, you got to take care of
• 53:44
  yourself from within. You know, I I used to, I used to
• 53:50
  do martial arts training in my youth and one of the things
• 53:57
  that. Our our instructor always said
• 54:01
  was you train the mind and the body follows but and and and
• 54:07
  it's it's like well what does that even mean?
• 54:09
  And and he gave some examples of like Olympic athletes who would
• 54:14
  not do any sort of physical training prior to an event or
• 54:18
  something like that. I mean they would obviously but
• 54:21
  there were times where they'd be like just sitting there relaxing
• 54:24
  by the pool or or laying in a chair and just chilling.
• 54:27
  You know, and but in their mind, they're they're going through
• 54:31
  the course, they're going through the thing that they're
• 54:34
  about to do. They're mentally lifting those
• 54:36
  weights. They're mentally skiing through
• 54:39
  those those courses, they're they're mentally doing the thing
• 54:42
  and they're preparing themselves internally.
• 54:44
  And it's been proven that you know you can, you can condition
• 54:49
  your body to a certain degree by by just the sheer willpower.
• 54:54
  Of doing it and I've talked about stuff like this on this
• 54:56
  podcast before about how powerful our minds, how we are
• 55:00
  our our actual selves. Not this not this physical shell
• 55:04
  that that people interact with on a you know on on the physical
• 55:08
  level, but what and who we truly are.
• 55:10
  We're powerful beings we we are so capable of of doing great
• 55:15
  things that it's it's it's not fully unlocked for a lot of
• 55:19
  people. You know that that that journey
• 55:21
  that you're talking about that. Going into the unknown, there's
• 55:25
  a lot of that that is very close to my heart and in my own
• 55:29
  personal practices. Because there there comes a
• 55:31
  point and I, and it resonates with me, what you were saying
• 55:35
  about being on someone else's path, if you see the path in
• 55:37
  front of you, then chances are you're following someone else's.
• 55:41
  They've already, they've already paved that way for you, right?
• 55:43
  And and and I think a lot of us, no matter what our path in in
• 55:47
  life is, whether it's you know, fitness or or spirituality or
• 55:50
  any other sort of thing, you know, whatever, we're in doing
• 55:53
  whatever, wherever we are in our journey, yeah, sure, we we need
• 55:57
  a place to start. We need a place to begin.
• 56:02
  And and really where we get to learning things is when we go
• 56:06
  off the beaten path, when we get off those exits and get lost,
• 56:10
  like purposely. You know in a way like like I I
• 56:13
  want to get lost out here and and try to find my way back and
• 56:16
  it there's a way about going it or or there's a way of going
• 56:19
  about it that's that's better than others.
• 56:21
  But sometimes people really just like careen off of the off of
• 56:26
  the path and be like well whatever's going to happen is
• 56:28
  going to happen and but they're ready for that.
• 56:30
  They they've like they've mentally prepared themselves for
• 56:33
  the unknown that that what ifs you know and they take those
• 56:37
  risks they take those chances. You know, and and without doing
• 56:41
  that, how how much are we like restricting or limiting
• 56:46
  ourselves to really unlock our true potentials?
• 56:51
  Exactly. You know, and I think that
• 56:53
  that's the key thing too, is like a lot of, I always relate a
• 56:57
  lot to fitness. Like one of the key things that
• 56:59
  I always say is that the scariest path is going to be the
• 57:02
  hardest path because. You don't.
• 57:05
  Your body's going to kick like a stallion to get you to stop.
• 57:09
  Like, oh, this is not normal, not shocking.
• 57:12
  They do. Yeah, we usually complain about
• 57:15
  life. We usually don't do this.
• 57:17
  We're usually speeding down the road or we're usually, you know,
• 57:21
  complaining and and and eating these chips or getting lost and
• 57:25
  all these video games or TV and just doing nothing in life.
• 57:28
  What are we? Why are we making a change?
• 57:31
  And then it'll it'll your mind will.
• 57:33
  Or your body mind. Not your mind, not your
• 57:36
  conscious mind. Your body mind will start to try
• 57:39
  and rear you back in to doing those old habitual habits.
• 57:43
  And dude, it's a daily battle. I don't know if you got into Joe
• 57:48
  Dispenser, if you ever got it or heard of him, that's I'm
• 57:52
  actually going to one of his his retreats next year.
• 57:58
  It's a weeklong retreat where he does it's it's a brutal retreat,
• 58:02
  but it's beautiful. He has I think 55 or 6A year.
• 58:06
  They're always booked up, but basically it's seven days long.
• 58:10
  Every day you do 3 meditations. You start out at 4:00 AM in the
• 58:14
  morning, and I think you end sometimes at 8:00 at night, but
• 58:17
  you do these meditations to basically reprogram your mind
• 58:21
  and during this whole retreat they actually have.
• 58:25
  Neurological systems like it's neuroscientist different like
• 58:31
  programs they they actually hook you up to brain monitors and
• 58:35
  they to everyone, not just one person.
• 58:37
  They they hook it up to everyone and they they show you exactly
• 58:42
  when and where your mind, your program starts to change and
• 58:47
  you'll see it like your entire brain because usually you're
• 58:51
  only using certain parts of your brain.
• 58:53
  Yeah, during the day. But during these meditations
• 58:56
  that he takes you through, he has proven science.
• 58:59
  And this, this dude is crazy. Like he's changed people's in
• 59:03
  crazy ways. But the way he does it is it's
• 59:06
  all through you. He shows you your true power.
• 59:09
  Like you were saying that everything that we need is here
• 59:12
  in the here and now, in the present moment, and that if we
• 59:15
  realize how powerful we truly are, we can heal ourselves.
• 59:19
  And that's the key thing is. During his meditations, he's
• 59:23
  healed people from cancer. Not being able to see, not being
• 59:27
  able to walk. He's made them walk again.
• 59:29
  But the key thing is that you only are able to get.
• 59:33
  So they did a research during his meditation, they had a lady
• 59:37
  with cancer actually go up there and he took her through the
• 59:41
  whole meditation. They had her hooked up to the
• 59:43
  brain scanner and during the brain scan, they actually saw
• 59:48
  her brain change. Like, it lit up like, and you,
• 59:52
  she actually had a physical reaction too.
• 59:54
  Like, you know, when people are like, they have this gasp of
• 59:57
  like something just happened. That's kind of how it was.
• 59:59
  And basically, he says it's the heart bursting open, you know,
• 1:00:03
  when you start leading a life from the heart.
• 1:00:05
  And basically they they looked at it, they saw her brain and
• 1:00:08
  they're like, he was like, well, she just did something crazy
• 1:00:11
  there. And she actually went to the
• 1:00:13
  doctors and the very next day they said they didn't know where
• 1:00:17
  her breast cancer was. And it was just gone.
• 1:00:21
  But the crazy thing about that is that she actually went back.
• 1:00:25
  And the very next day, right after she went back to the old
• 1:00:29
  programming of her mind and the doctors did another scan.
• 1:00:33
  Her cancer was back. And it was very weird how it
• 1:00:36
  happens, but that's how it happens.
• 1:00:37
  If you program your mind and then you go back to your old
• 1:00:40
  past, your your familiar past, you're starting to think from
• 1:00:45
  the same place where your cancer came from, and that's going to
• 1:00:48
  come back so. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:49
  I'm actually going to one of his retreats out and we haven't
• 1:00:52
  chose where. He has different locations.
• 1:00:54
  There's a few out of the country.
• 1:00:55
  There's a few in the country. But yeah, we're, we're trying to
• 1:00:59
  go to Cancun. That's the one we're trying to
• 1:01:00
  go to, yeah. I've been seeing a lot of things
• 1:01:03
  like this pop up in different circuits.
• 1:01:06
  You know, of course I have a very, and this isn't like I
• 1:01:11
  always say, you know, my, my, my, how I represent myself is
• 1:01:15
  not a I'm not the spokesperson for.
• 1:01:19
  Dramatic Evenry or or paganism. That as as a whole and you know
• 1:01:22
  I just do what I do the way I do it and I have you know sources
• 1:01:27
  or or or you know, I I draw my inspiration from certain root
• 1:01:31
  sources that sort of thing. But I take a very animistic
• 1:01:35
  approach to my spirituality, you know.
• 1:01:37
  So I I find commonalities and nuances across different
• 1:01:44
  different things that that I can relate with.
• 1:01:47
  But this particular thing where people are either venturing off
• 1:01:51
  out of their comfort zones or they're going to things like a
• 1:01:54
  retreat, where it's like guided, almost shamanic in a way, you
• 1:01:59
  know, guided meditations. Or you know someone who is the
• 1:02:04
  expert, someone who is the mentor that it, you know, puts
• 1:02:07
  themselves in a position to help people and and and people are
• 1:02:10
  are. Going for these things, you know
• 1:02:14
  even if it's not a retreat sort of scenario they are they are
• 1:02:17
  finding they're finding out that what people have been saying for
• 1:02:22
  so long about you know awaken your higher self and and all
• 1:02:26
  this like seemingly like woo woo type stuff like there's
• 1:02:29
  legitimacy to it all. There is there is real factual
• 1:02:34
  scientific benefits to it all and I think people are are are
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  starting to wake up to the fact that.
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  It's not just a bunch of hogwash, you know what I mean?
• 1:02:43
  It's not just some hippie dippie stuff that that someone who did
• 1:02:46
  too much shrooms or or drop too much acid or whatever had this
• 1:02:50
  revelation. Like, no, man, there's there's
• 1:02:53
  real facts behind this. There's science that backs this
• 1:02:55
  stuff up. And I'm glad to see people from
• 1:02:59
  different walks of life realizing this because the world
• 1:03:04
  needs it. Humanity needs it.
• 1:03:07
  We're hurting, you know, Humanity is hurting.
• 1:03:10
  And whether it's spirituality, whether it's health and
• 1:03:13
  Wellness, I mean it all I think has everything ties into one
• 1:03:18
  another eventually. You know, cuz like you were
• 1:03:20
  saying before, how you know you were working out and you were
• 1:03:23
  feeling a certain way, but you really didn't experience the
• 1:03:26
  full benefit of it until you looked inward and started
• 1:03:29
  feeding yourself with good things and started focusing on
• 1:03:32
  the nutrition aspects of it, you know?
• 1:03:35
  That's healing from within and manifesting that Wellness within
• 1:03:40
  first, and taking care of what's inward and allowing it to
• 1:03:43
  manifest outward and look at the benefits that come of it.
• 1:03:48
  Yeah, I think that's the key is that I actually just made a
• 1:03:51
  video about that. It's like.
• 1:03:53
  You people that keep trying to go to the gym and working out
• 1:03:57
  and I tried it like they were time.
• 1:03:58
  I tried inter minute fasting for 19/5.
• 1:04:02
  It was a 19 five so 19 hour fast, 5 hour eating.
• 1:04:06
  I tried eating healthy. I tried eating Whole Foods.
• 1:04:10
  I tried working out for 2 1/2 hours.
• 1:04:12
  I see no results. But the key difference was here.
• 1:04:18
  There was something inside of me that was bothering me and I
• 1:04:20
  didn't want to face it. But when I switched it, when I
• 1:04:24
  was able to actually look at that and change that, the diet
• 1:04:28
  that I had had no effect on it. And I started doing a diet, a
• 1:04:32
  simple diet, and it literally changed my effects.
• 1:04:35
  But there's also scientific research that when your mind and
• 1:04:38
  body are in stress, that you're able to collect fat a lot
• 1:04:42
  faster, almost three to five times faster than you are in
• 1:04:45
  homeostasis, whereas you eat like let's say you eat 500
• 1:04:49
  calories over your normal. Calorie intake and where and
• 1:04:54
  when you're in stress mode, whereas you're in homeostasis,
• 1:04:59
  you'll lose that body weight. Where when you're in a stress
• 1:05:03
  mode, you're going to get exponential.
• 1:05:06
  Yeah, you're going to start getting because your body starts
• 1:05:08
  thinking it's in a fight or flight.
• 1:05:11
  Therefore. It starts to store that, yeah.
• 1:05:13
  And then when your body's always in fight or flight stressing
• 1:05:16
  out, you start to retain all of that.
• 1:05:18
  And I experience that. I got a big chubby at one point
• 1:05:22
  and it was all emotional eating and that's I tried working out
• 1:05:27
  for hours and stuff like that and you're not going to get
• 1:05:30
  results. And that's one that's the first
• 1:05:33
  part of my face and my nutrition plan is metabolic restoration,
• 1:05:37
  whatever fat diet, whatever diet you were on.
• 1:05:41
  Crazy, because a lot of people think they go on these massive
• 1:05:44
  deficits. And that's the answer.
• 1:05:45
  No, You can keep that up for maybe a week or two, and then
• 1:05:49
  your metabolism is messed up and then it all goes bad.
• 1:05:52
  And then that's that's why we start the first phase of my
• 1:05:56
  fitness and nutrition training is metabolic restoration.
• 1:06:00
  So we figure out what's going on, what is causing this stress,
• 1:06:04
  We figure that out first. So that way when we start
• 1:06:08
  getting into the nitty gritty stuff, we have exponential
• 1:06:11
  result. That's why when I told you that
• 1:06:13
  I had a client that lost £40 in five months, that was the first
• 1:06:17
  thing we focused on. I didn't even have him start
• 1:06:20
  working out. I literally just said show up at
• 1:06:22
  the gym and leave and that's literally what he did.
• 1:06:24
  The second week we did a 12 minute workout and he's like
• 1:06:27
  that's it. And I'm like yeah, go home like
• 1:06:30
  that's all you need to do today. And then he went home and.
• 1:06:34
  He started noticing that he wasn't stressing.
• 1:06:37
  He started getting better sleep, he started drinking more water,
• 1:06:40
  cut out alcohol. The third week I didn't even
• 1:06:42
  tell him to cut out the alcohol. He chose to and then slowly but
• 1:06:46
  surely he just started making these little changes. 40 pounds
• 1:06:50
  later he went from. He was only, I think he was 5,
• 1:06:53
  he's 5 foot five and he was £185 which is like a that's massively
• 1:06:59
  overweight, but he had told me he wanted to.
• 1:07:02
  Get to 140 pounds, which I was like man, that's that's massive.
• 1:07:05
  But we'll see. And his he had a very Big Y.
• 1:07:09
  That's what it stuck with me is his Y was really big.
• 1:07:12
  So after the first week of training I saw he was dedicated
• 1:07:15
  and I was like okay, like he incorporated fasting on his own.
• 1:07:19
  He started. I just gave him the ropes.
• 1:07:22
  I was like hey like what One thing we can work on okay boom,
• 1:07:25
  let's do that. Did you do it How do you feel
• 1:07:28
  every little step and. That's what people don't
• 1:07:31
  understand is that it's changing habits and changing your
• 1:07:33
  emotions first. When you're.
• 1:07:36
  Yes, reprogramming your mind. And when you do that, I call it
• 1:07:40
  the metabolic restoration phase. Because not only are you fixing
• 1:07:43
  your mental, you're fixing your your metabolic where everything
• 1:07:47
  happens. When you fix your mind, you
• 1:07:49
  start to fix your body and your body's able to process what it
• 1:07:52
  really needs and then it stops stressing out.
• 1:07:55
  And when you stop stressing out, you're able to just let go, you
• 1:07:58
  know, and. Things just start magically
• 1:08:01
  happening, but it's always the ones that and people don't
• 1:08:05
  really believe me until they start doing this with me.
• 1:08:07
  But they're like how did how did you get him to lose that much
• 1:08:10
  weight? I just told him to show up to
• 1:08:11
  the gym and leave, that's it. Lost £40.00 but that's
• 1:08:16
  literally. Like, that's the why.
• 1:08:19
  Yeah, the why. You know, Like you're saying his
• 1:08:21
  why was strong. And I've talked about this too,
• 1:08:24
  with people, guests and friends alike, you know?
• 1:08:29
  Because I I think we as as just as a species, I mean humanity,
• 1:08:33
  we have a propensity of doing things just because like
• 1:08:39
  somebody else did it first and kind of like, you know, growing
• 1:08:41
  up in the in the environment that you grew up, you know, and
• 1:08:46
  in the environment that I grew up in, you know, everybody was
• 1:08:48
  doing things because of what somebody else told them to do
• 1:08:51
  and using fear to persuade them to do it.
• 1:08:55
  There was no, there was no free thinking.
• 1:08:59
  With people, you know what I mean?
• 1:09:01
  And they didn't have their, why Their purpose was I don't want
• 1:09:06
  to burn in hell for eternity. You know, they were it was a
• 1:09:09
  fear. You know, it was a fear of this
• 1:09:12
  mythical thing. That does it exist, does it not?
• 1:09:15
  I mean, who knows? They're they're, you know,
• 1:09:16
  everything's based off of this, this this other person's
• 1:09:21
  perspective, this other person's angle.
• 1:09:23
  And I get it. I'm not trying to bash.
• 1:09:25
  Anyone for their religious or spiritual beliefs because I have
• 1:09:27
  my own and I feel convicted in them and everybody has it and
• 1:09:30
  and that's that's perfectly fun. If it works for you then fine.
• 1:09:33
  But I guess what my my point is is do you really believe it is
• 1:09:37
  it is is why you're doing what you're doing.
• 1:09:39
  Are you purpose driven for for for the right reasons or are you
• 1:09:43
  just going through the motions because you don't want to run
• 1:09:47
  the risk of pissing off you know, this person that person.
• 1:09:52
  You know, ending up in the wrong place because of, you know what
• 1:09:55
  somebody else said if it's not, if you don't have a purpose to
• 1:09:59
  do something, you know, so many people that I've come across do
• 1:10:03
  things because again, it's it's it's in a book or somebody five,
• 1:10:06
  6-7 hundred years ago wrote about it that that's how they
• 1:10:09
  did it. And it's like, yeah, well that's
• 1:10:10
  that's what worked for them, right?
• 1:10:14
  That's why they did it. It's because they and it got
• 1:10:16
  written down or got documented. And so yeah, we have it as like
• 1:10:19
  a source but. You know they had a purpose.
• 1:10:22
  They had a reason. Why.
• 1:10:24
  Find your reason. Why?
• 1:10:25
  Find your purpose. Why are you doing XY&Z?
• 1:10:29
  And if you don't have it, then I think you're only going to get
• 1:10:31
  so far. You're not going to really reap
• 1:10:33
  the true benefits of the thing that you're trying to to
• 1:10:36
  accomplish if you don't have a strong purpose behind.
• 1:10:42
  So I have a question like for you.
• 1:10:44
  For you, I'm really interested in your beliefs.
• 1:10:47
  Actually, I. I want to hear all about it, cuz
• 1:10:50
  I've heard a lot about paganism. But what is it cuz I know you,
• 1:10:53
  you brought up Germanic and there was a little bit of
• 1:10:56
  studies that I've done with it, but I I don't know much about
• 1:10:59
  it, so you got to explain a little bit about it for for me.
• 1:11:01
  Yeah, sure. Yeah.
• 1:11:03
  So yes, Paganism is as it's an overarching term or an umbrella
• 1:11:08
  term for polytheistic spirituality, polytheistic
• 1:11:12
  religion. So whereas you know, monotheism,
• 1:11:15
  things like Christianity, Judaism, Islam.
• 1:11:19
  You know the their higher power is is singular, right?
• 1:11:22
  There is this one God in in in their beliefs.
• 1:11:25
  Whereas paganism all over the world brings about polytheistic
• 1:11:30
  beliefs, so multiple deities that make up either pantheons or
• 1:11:36
  a collective of divine beings. And Heathenry is a term that's
• 1:11:43
  that's usually used to describe the Northern European or
• 1:11:47
  Germanic. Flavor of of paganism, you know
• 1:11:52
  so where things kind of started off there probably has roots in
• 1:11:57
  in Indoeuropean you know countries and it eventually
• 1:12:05
  formulates into this or or eventually reached areas like
• 1:12:11
  Scandinavia you know so your mainland continental Germanic
• 1:12:15
  areas so where Germany is now. Used to be Saxony, England.
• 1:12:22
  Was was was Anglo, English angle, angle, angle and angle.
• 1:12:26
  And England is is what was angle and and then those.
• 1:12:29
  Those Pagan beliefs that that originated there eventually made
• 1:12:34
  their way further north into Scandinavia.
• 1:12:36
  So Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and eventually Iceland as it became
• 1:12:42
  settled. But so the the, the, the, the
• 1:12:46
  belief systems, right? Kind of have a lot of
• 1:12:49
  similarities. There are nuances that are
• 1:12:50
  shared. But your gods and goddesses of
• 1:12:54
  the Germanic peoples are figures like Odin, Thor and and and some
• 1:13:01
  others of course but like Tear Freak or and Freya Frayer.
• 1:13:07
  Like there's different gods and stuff but the those are the
• 1:13:10
  divine, like those are the sacred beings and at different
• 1:13:12
  points in time and in different areas of the world, some of
• 1:13:16
  those gods were. Focused on more than others.
• 1:13:18
  So the the Swedes particularly had a very strong affinity
• 1:13:26
  towards a God named Frayer and the nobility among the Danes and
• 1:13:33
  and and some of the other neighboring countries were were
• 1:13:37
  very they had a strong affinity to Thor.
• 1:13:43
  Because he was the the God of the people he was he is
• 1:13:46
  considered as like the protector of of earth, the protector of
• 1:13:49
  mid guard. Mid guard meeting a a place in
• 1:13:53
  the cosmos of of those belief systems.
• 1:13:57
  So, so mid guard is like this middle middle yard middle area
• 1:14:00
  and that's earth that's where humans are and then there are
• 1:14:03
  the realms that in stories are homes to different beings you
• 1:14:09
  know so Asgard is the home of the gods.
• 1:14:11
  It is is the. The yard of the the divine.
• 1:14:14
  So Asgard is where the gods dwell and Midgard is where
• 1:14:18
  humans dwell and then you have different realms that in
• 1:14:21
  throughout the stories have again are the homes of other
• 1:14:25
  spiritual and and divine beings. But at its core you know it.
• 1:14:30
  It is a very nature and and community based folkway belief
• 1:14:38
  system. So you know, things to do with
• 1:14:41
  nature and and and the earth itself and and growing things
• 1:14:46
  and being being frugal in that way.
• 1:14:48
  It's it's it's the way our ancient ancestors lived, you
• 1:14:51
  know, they lived off of the land.
• 1:14:53
  The the word itself, heathen has is is etymologically rooted back
• 1:14:58
  to old proto Germanic words that meant literally just country
• 1:15:03
  people, heath dwellers, the the heathens.
• 1:15:06
  A later on became a derogatory term, because when Christianity
• 1:15:09
  began to spread in Europe, Pagan and heathen were were turns to
• 1:15:13
  you describe those who did not adopt the belief systems of the
• 1:15:17
  Church of the Christian faith. So it became derogatory, and it
• 1:15:21
  became a a a slur, as as in a way, but etymologically like
• 1:15:26
  linguistically speaking like heathen.
• 1:15:28
  Haven is it is a word that again has its roots in in meaning that
• 1:15:32
  the people that lived in the country, the heath dwellers, the
• 1:15:34
  the the people that live outside of the normal they had they were
• 1:15:38
  villages they were village people you know what I mean they
• 1:15:40
  they were small tribes that that originated in in continental
• 1:15:47
  Germanic lands and then they eventually just migrated and
• 1:15:51
  spread and be in found in found new lands to to set up and in
• 1:15:54
  their indigenous beliefs went with them.
• 1:15:58
  So they were, you know, they were, they were simple people of
• 1:16:03
  course later on and I say later on, I mean like around the seven
• 1:16:07
  hundreds, that's when the quote UN quote Viking Age kind of
• 1:16:14
  started and it lasted till, you know about the year, well 11112
• 1:16:20
  hundred somewhere in that vicinity, right, Like it.
• 1:16:22
  So it lasted, you know, a relatively short period of time,
• 1:16:25
  about 500 years or so. But the Viking Age was when
• 1:16:29
  Christianity started to infiltrate these areas and
• 1:16:36
  people got mad about it. They're like, no, you can't
• 1:16:39
  convert us. You won't convert us.
• 1:16:41
  You know, we're going to, we're going to fight.
• 1:16:43
  And so yes, there were some definite, you know, they were
• 1:16:47
  they were there. There's definitely times when
• 1:16:49
  when people converted because it worked well for them to do so.
• 1:16:54
  That and also the kings that. Ended up you know the the the
• 1:17:00
  kings that were in power who said we're not pagans anymore,
• 1:17:03
  we're Christians and I said so I mean you got a David King says
• 1:17:07
  right. So there was there was a lot of
• 1:17:09
  that going on but there were there were definitely struggles
• 1:17:14
  and and and fights to preserve their indigenous beliefs their
• 1:17:19
  their Pagan beliefs and it and it resulted in wars and death
• 1:17:25
  and and and stuff so. You know when when people hear
• 1:17:28
  about gods like Odin and Thor and Viking Age and stuff that
• 1:17:32
  there there tends to be this people like ourselves like
• 1:17:38
  modernday pagans that are that are dramatic heathens like oh
• 1:17:41
  you're a Viking. You know people will say that
• 1:17:43
  they they they they use the term Viking to describe people that
• 1:17:46
  believe in those gods. And so the term itself Viking is
• 1:17:51
  is that was that was a time that was a time period the Viking
• 1:17:53
  age. Yes it happened with an involved
• 1:17:59
  Scandinavians and and Germanic peoples.
• 1:18:02
  But not all German descendants were Vikings, right?
• 1:18:06
  And not all Scandinavians were Vikings.
• 1:18:08
  People that did raiding and and actually sailed to other areas
• 1:18:14
  and and and founded places and then raided and pillage and
• 1:18:17
  things like they they were doing what is called Viking or they
• 1:18:22
  were the the the word is Vickinger.
• 1:18:25
  It's it's an old word that, that is you were the man, you were
• 1:18:29
  the you were the person who went to go Viking.
• 1:18:32
  So you were you're a pirate, you're a Raider.
• 1:18:36
  And none of us now in the modern day are that, like, we're not
• 1:18:40
  Vikings. We don't go raiding, we don't go
• 1:18:42
  pillaging. We're not, you know, taking over
• 1:18:44
  monasteries and and stealing stuff and bringing it back to to
• 1:18:48
  our families. Those were certain specific
• 1:18:51
  people that did certain specific things.
• 1:18:54
  And yes, that thing is called to go Viking.
• 1:18:57
  So it's like to go, if I went swimming, I'm, I'm going to go
• 1:19:00
  swim. If I'm hiking, I'm going to go
• 1:19:03
  hike. Well, if I'm going to go Viking,
• 1:19:05
  then that means I'm going to go pillage and raid and do all
• 1:19:08
  these nasty things. But yeah, we're not Vikings, We
• 1:19:12
  are pagans. We're huge.
• 1:19:14
  Yeah, yeah, I love that. I was when I first started, like
• 1:19:19
  so my transition from Christianity the first time.
• 1:19:22
  It was Greek mythology, but I didn't think it was mythology.
• 1:19:26
  I actually believed in it. I mean, I of course, when my dad
• 1:19:30
  found the books, it was, yeah, they're just books, you know.
• 1:19:33
  Yeah, that was such a big. To me.
• 1:19:37
  With such a big family, I mean, so is is, you know, if I'm
• 1:19:42
  prying too much is, is all your family still where you left
• 1:19:46
  from? Likely they still believe the
• 1:19:48
  things that you. No, only only two of them.
• 1:19:52
  Only two, the 18. It had such an it had bigger
• 1:19:55
  impacts on some of the family members than it did on me.
• 1:19:58
  Some of them are like one of them in particular, two of them
• 1:20:01
  actually. They're both females and they
• 1:20:06
  had a huge impact done on them, just like they just can't let go
• 1:20:11
  of what it did to them mentally. It broke relationships like
• 1:20:17
  between them and their dad and their parents and and their mom
• 1:20:20
  too, so. Our mom and dad were so deep
• 1:20:23
  into it that it was like, what we're doing is wrong.
• 1:20:27
  And they were cast out. It was like, like they're don't
• 1:20:30
  be like them, but they actually turned out.
• 1:20:33
  The one's a lawyer, the other one's very successful as well.
• 1:20:36
  And it's like, man, like. Isn't it crazy how those belief
• 1:20:44
  styles like that, that mentality, how it can?
• 1:20:47
  Destroy something that is just so inherently wholesome family.
• 1:20:51
  I mean you know like who else do you have if you don't have
• 1:20:55
  family and and that that may sound like I just you know got
• 1:20:59
  finished watching the fast and furious whatever you got family
• 1:21:03
  you have nothing but no but what I'm like for me specifically
• 1:21:07
  like heathen heathenry and and paganism like our beliefs are
• 1:21:11
  you know your can your family like.
• 1:21:15
  The the the history of of the dramatic people and and all the
• 1:21:20
  way from pro you know before Christian times up through and
• 1:21:23
  including the Viking age is riddled with sockas and stories
• 1:21:27
  about you know who did this that thing to the other a person of
• 1:21:32
  their family and then how vengeance was enacted or they
• 1:21:34
  you know family meant something back then and you know it it it
• 1:21:39
  wasn't always your blood family that that meant the most.
• 1:21:43
  To you it was how family was perceived and how it was seen.
• 1:21:46
  So there was a lot of you know adoption and fostering that that
• 1:21:51
  took place and and once that happened man, like you were you
• 1:21:54
  were in like you were you were part of the family And when when
• 1:21:57
  things got broken when when that family structure when that when
• 1:22:00
  that family unit deteriorated it was bad.
• 1:22:04
  Like it was bad news. And I've always really like in
• 1:22:09
  in in my journeys and in my you know life and then how I've.
• 1:22:13
  Progressed, seeing how I was raised and and what I was
• 1:22:18
  brought up in like there were there were definitely things
• 1:22:20
  about it that are I would say good morally and ethnically good
• 1:22:24
  things. Again I I I grew up working on a
• 1:22:28
  farm and and and having an idea of how to live off the land, how
• 1:22:32
  to hunt, how to fish how to stay warm and dry in the woods and
• 1:22:37
  and do all these survival type things right learning those
• 1:22:40
  things. Those are great things those are
• 1:22:42
  good things and and and and how just like the religiosity of it
• 1:22:48
  is is what took over and it and it overshadowed the fundamental
• 1:22:53
  purpose of what our what that group had as a potential right.
• 1:22:58
  We could have literally been a selfsustaining you know relied
• 1:23:02
  on each other very tribal in in in its construct and the
• 1:23:07
  religiosity of it started to just.
• 1:23:11
  Peel things away there there's there's hardly anything left of
• 1:23:14
  it now. You know they're the they people
• 1:23:17
  have either died or the kids that those people had that have
• 1:23:20
  died have have gone away because they're like fuck this cuckoo
• 1:23:25
  you know stuff and and I was one of them you know I was one of
• 1:23:31
  them who who was like I'm I'm out of here guys.
• 1:23:34
  You know I'm I I left New York when I was 22.
• 1:23:39
  Yeah. 22 years old in New York. Yeah.
• 1:23:44
  So I'm originally from New York, but I moved to Tennessee almost
• 1:23:48
  20 years ago to get away from it, you know?
• 1:23:51
  So where did you guys have the farmland in New York at?
• 1:23:55
  So it's Orange County, Hudson Valley.
• 1:24:00
  Yeah, got you. Got you.
• 1:24:01
  Not quite, not quite as far up into the the Adirondacks, but
• 1:24:05
  kind of I would say like, yeah, Hudson Valley, so you know the
• 1:24:07
  lower foothills of the Catskill Mountain range.
• 1:24:10
  Yeah, yeah. I was born and raised on Long
• 1:24:13
  Island and sometimes depending on how upset I am and or how
• 1:24:18
  much I've had to drink, the the Long Island accent comes out a
• 1:24:20
  bit more. But yeah, so I'm I'm from there.
• 1:24:24
  My parents are from there. I was born there.
• 1:24:26
  My sister and I were raised there and then.
• 1:24:29
  Yeah, when I was like 12 or 13, we moved up to where my mom
• 1:24:34
  lives now. They've had that house, you
• 1:24:37
  know, or since 9796 or 97 and they've been there ever since.
• 1:24:43
  Well, my dad just passed away this year, so now it's just my
• 1:24:46
  mom and my sister that that live up there.
• 1:24:48
  But yeah, it's all right. Thanks.
• 1:24:51
  Yeah, it's it's just like seeing the, you know.
• 1:24:54
  I don't know how old you are, but over the years, like when
• 1:24:56
  you when you when you leave something and you start looking
• 1:24:58
  at it from the outside and you're like, damn, I can't
• 1:25:02
  believe I I actually at one point in time went along with
• 1:25:07
  this, yeah. Yeah, that's it sometimes, Yeah.
• 1:25:10
  No, I went through the same thing, dude.
• 1:25:11
  It was like because as a as a young kid, you don't.
• 1:25:15
  I grew up in it for 16 years and it was like.
• 1:25:19
  I didn't know, like, I was so young that I was like, ohh, this
• 1:25:21
  is in it. Your subconscious is wide open.
• 1:25:25
  So anything that comes in, you're like, ohh, this is
• 1:25:27
  amazing until you start to see like, wait a second, like, and
• 1:25:33
  then I start telling this to different people and they're
• 1:25:36
  like, you live that life like that's crazy.
• 1:25:39
  And I'm like, wait, I thought that was just normal.
• 1:25:42
  I thought everyone had that type of life.
• 1:25:44
  And then it was a cult, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:25:47
  And then you go, you look away and then you start noticing
• 1:25:51
  there now to say that there's things that weren't good about
• 1:25:55
  the way I grew up. I'd be wrong because I'm very
• 1:25:58
  out there. We were kept away from
• 1:26:00
  television and stuff like that, which made me be very more in
• 1:26:04
  tune and in touch with humanity and with other people.
• 1:26:08
  So I think that in that way, it was so, so good for me.
• 1:26:12
  But. The limiting beliefs about
• 1:26:14
  money, about being able to go out there and give myself to the
• 1:26:18
  world, and that's that's what it's about, is like becoming the
• 1:26:22
  very best version of yourself and then going and giving him to
• 1:26:25
  the world. You know, like, what is that
• 1:26:27
  person that you admire? What is he look like?
• 1:26:30
  What does he breathe? What does he talk about?
• 1:26:32
  What does he think? How does it?
• 1:26:34
  What does he enjoy Now give that person to the world.
• 1:26:38
  We weren't taught that. And just looking back, it's
• 1:26:41
  like. I try.
• 1:26:42
  The best thing I can do now is just to reprogram that and just
• 1:26:46
  also to look at the good, because gratitude is the
• 1:26:49
  highest, the highest emotion in the emotional scale.
• 1:26:53
  So always thinking on gratitude is is starting to reprogram my
• 1:26:57
  mind to think of the good and instead of thinking from field
• 1:27:01
  fear, shame, lack and all those low emotional vibrations and
• 1:27:06
  it's more so thinking in a high vibration frequency with
• 1:27:09
  gratitude and love and being conscious.
• 1:27:12
  About this stuff too. So that's like the the number
• 1:27:16
  one key. But man, I think that's yeah,
• 1:27:19
  that's crazy, man. Like growing up on a farm,
• 1:27:21
  because I've always wanted to do that.
• 1:27:23
  Like I think those are the simplest lives.
• 1:27:26
  Like I messed with a girl when I was for a little bit and she
• 1:27:30
  grew up in the South and it was all like barefoot stuff like
• 1:27:35
  like that, farming, go out fishing.
• 1:27:39
  Stuff like that. And it's the way she talked
• 1:27:42
  about it. It was just like, oh, his life
• 1:27:44
  was simple and she actually, but of course, same thing, Religion.
• 1:27:49
  It's crazy. Anything that, even whether it's
• 1:27:53
  religion or not, I think anything that has the component
• 1:27:58
  of fear added to it as as an element of control.
• 1:28:02
  Because again, you know, you're talking about things like.
• 1:28:07
  Any if it's doctrine if it's if it's somebody saying that, well
• 1:28:11
  it says it in this book, therefore it has to be this way
• 1:28:14
  or else. Right.
• 1:28:15
  The consequences are so incredibly terrifying that
• 1:28:20
  you're like I I absolutely don't want to do anything that would
• 1:28:24
  get me there. You know what I mean?
• 1:28:25
  I don't want to burn in the eternity.
• 1:28:27
  You know what I mean? Like that that's like that's
• 1:28:28
  that's frightening anything that does that and and I I think
• 1:28:31
  there are other things too that can even if it's not like a very
• 1:28:35
  popular. I don't know.
• 1:28:36
  A perversion of Christianity because that's really what it
• 1:28:39
  is. I mean I I know people.
• 1:28:40
  I have people in my life and my in my family who are as I would
• 1:28:44
  say, good Christian people. You know what I mean?
• 1:28:46
  Like they have a moral code. They they they follow their
• 1:28:50
  their doctrine and they are good people.
• 1:28:52
  And then there's others that I've known and have come across
• 1:28:54
  within my life that have been that that doctrine has been
• 1:28:58
  perverted to them and they push that perversion out and and it
• 1:29:02
  and it becomes something twisted and not.
• 1:29:05
  What it should you know was never intended to be.
• 1:29:07
  But even stuff outside of that like if you have to if you have
• 1:29:11
  to tell someone in with you know and give them an angle and use
• 1:29:15
  fear to try to make your point probably not the thing to that
• 1:29:22
  you that you know. I I wouldn't want to be.
• 1:29:24
  I've never since I've gotten into heathenry paganism right
• 1:29:27
  since I found this path. You know I've never tried to use
• 1:29:31
  this as as as a fear tactic on others.
• 1:29:34
  Not even my own, not even my own family who I walked away from
• 1:29:36
  essentially and said I'm I'm done with you guys for the time
• 1:29:39
  being cuz I can't. I can't abide it anymore.
• 1:29:41
  It doesn't doesn't make sense to me.
• 1:29:43
  It doesn't speak to me. It doesn't do anything for me.
• 1:29:45
  I once I found my my path like it wasn't like and now let me go
• 1:29:49
  back and try to convince them why they're wrong.
• 1:29:52
  Never, never, never has been a thing.
• 1:29:54
  You know, yeah, same, yeah. Like I'm finding my own piece,
• 1:29:59
  my own purpose, and I'm finding people that align with it.
• 1:30:03
  Naturally and organically and yes, there's work to be done.
• 1:30:06
  Like there are things that you know you want to be accessible.
• 1:30:09
  You want to like kind of with you.
• 1:30:10
  Like you have a vision. You you've, you've branded it.
• 1:30:13
  You've made it something that you've again.
• 1:30:15
  You you are finding the best version of you and sharing it
• 1:30:18
  with the world. I love that.
• 1:30:19
  I I, you know, and it could be anything.
• 1:30:21
  Finding the best version of yourself and then don't be
• 1:30:23
  selfish about it. Don't.
• 1:30:26
  Keep it from people. Share people, you know, because
• 1:30:29
  that people, people need that man.
• 1:30:31
  Like I said before, the world needs healing.
• 1:30:34
  The world needs visionaries and and people with good wholesome
• 1:30:40
  visions and and purpose and it it you know, if you can't find a
• 1:30:45
  way then make a way is what I've always said like if you know
• 1:30:49
  find someone that can be a mentor for you or or at the very
• 1:30:52
  least you know guide you. Suggestions.
• 1:30:57
  And if you can or if it's a little bit tough, man, and then
• 1:30:59
  get out there and do it yourself.
• 1:31:00
  Like, start doing the thing, Start putting in the work.
• 1:31:05
  It's better to try and fail than to never try at all.
• 1:31:08
  And that's so true. And I think one of the biggest
• 1:31:12
  things people hold on to is material things is we're so
• 1:31:17
  stuck on. I need this and this and this to
• 1:31:20
  get to where I wanna be, but yeah.
• 1:31:23
  You can be where you want to be in here 1st and everything else
• 1:31:27
  will come. Like a lot of people say, I
• 1:31:29
  can't be rich without having money.
• 1:31:31
  Like I don't have money to do that.
• 1:31:33
  I don't have a good job. I don't have an education.
• 1:31:35
  But yeah, if you look at all the billionaires and millionaires of
• 1:31:38
  the world, who were they? At one point, they had no money.
• 1:31:42
  Like most of them went into debt.
• 1:31:45
  And that's the thing like I try to teach people.
• 1:31:49
  Stop being afraid to chase your dreams if you.
• 1:31:52
  If you're thinking you can't go to a mastermind or you can't
• 1:31:56
  hire a mentor because you don't have enough money, go broke for
• 1:32:00
  it. Why?
• 1:32:00
  Because that person has the exact thing that you're looking
• 1:32:03
  for and they're going to teach you how to get it.
• 1:32:06
  And that's the whole point. Like, find somebody.
• 1:32:09
  Like, everyone's had a coach. Like Jordan had a coach.
• 1:32:13
  Kobe Bryant had a coach. All these like Alexander Great,
• 1:32:17
  The Great had a coach. And he was all these people were
• 1:32:21
  coached by great people. But if you think that if you're
• 1:32:24
  constantly saying and letting money constantly restrict your
• 1:32:27
  life, you're always going to have that mentality and it's
• 1:32:30
  never your life is never going to come to you.
• 1:32:32
  Like for me, like I would rather spend, my goal is to one day
• 1:32:37
  spend $250,000 on personal growth.
• 1:32:42
  Because why? Why would I spend that much
• 1:32:44
  money on personal growth? Because that and probably even
• 1:32:47
  more, probably millions. Because I know that that is the
• 1:32:51
  one thing that can make me more money and make me give me more
• 1:32:54
  time, give me happiness is hiring people that already know
• 1:32:58
  where I want to be and learning exactly from them.
• 1:33:02
  Like one of the coaches that I like to listen to.
• 1:33:05
  He had talked about basically saying he said that basically he
• 1:33:10
  wanted to learn how to do Facebook ads and the way he did
• 1:33:14
  it is he found somebody that knew how to do it.
• 1:33:16
  He asked him how much he makes in a month.
• 1:33:19
  And or no, he asked him how much he would charge him for an hour,
• 1:33:23
  a week or hourly to to train him one-on-one.
• 1:33:26
  That he had to train him that this guy that was asking for the
• 1:33:30
  help had to do all the work, that the other the teacher
• 1:33:33
  couldn't do any of the work, he had to do all the hands on work
• 1:33:36
  and that he would pay him for whatever he wanted.
• 1:33:38
  So the guy said $750 a week or an hour, all charging.
• 1:33:42
  He was like, fine, I don't care. Within a month he learned how to
• 1:33:45
  do it, made millions of dollars off of it.
• 1:33:48
  And that's what people don't understand, is when you learn
• 1:33:50
  from the best, you learn the little tweaks and stuff.
• 1:33:53
  But I I also learned is that you can't buy courses, go and get
• 1:33:57
  hands on like feedback from these people.
• 1:34:00
  Don't be. Spend the extra money to get
• 1:34:02
  personal training from people, whether it's fitness, whether
• 1:34:05
  it's cooking, whether it's any of this stuff.
• 1:34:08
  Go and get hands on and you'll learn.
• 1:34:10
  Like don't be. I have one of my mentors.
• 1:34:13
  He was 60 years old and he didn't find what he loved and
• 1:34:16
  didn't make his first million until he was 55.
• 1:34:20
  After 55 years of searching, he did everything.
• 1:34:23
  He finally did it and it was like, what part of the what is
• 1:34:28
  too long, what is too short, you know?
• 1:34:31
  Don't. Be afraid.
• 1:34:32
  Yeah. Don't be afraid to embark on
• 1:34:33
  this journey. It's dark, it's lonesome, but
• 1:34:36
  it's worth it. Yeah, man, as long as we got, as
• 1:34:40
  long as we're upright, as I say long as we're upright breathe in
• 1:34:42
  air, Yes. I mean, you got the ability.
• 1:34:45
  There's nothing stopping us except ourselves.
• 1:34:48
  Exactly, exactly. And we always over exaggerate
• 1:34:52
  the situation cuz usually whenever I'm not in a good mood
• 1:34:55
  and I'm like man, I wanna give up but then you just go to sleep
• 1:34:59
  or you do, you just keep going and then you wake up the next
• 1:35:01
  morning and you're like let's do it again.
• 1:35:04
  When you have a blueprint to follow every day, and that's my
• 1:35:06
  other thing is like, I give people programmings that they
• 1:35:09
  can follow every day. So it's very simple and easy to
• 1:35:12
  achieve their goals. You just wake up, you knock
• 1:35:15
  those out, notice, like my thing is try and get us all my stuff
• 1:35:20
  done as soon as possible. The sooner I can just relax, you
• 1:35:23
  know? And that's what I do.
• 1:35:25
  You don't want to just kill yourself, you want to be in it
• 1:35:28
  for the long run, however long it's going to take 1015 years,
• 1:35:32
  so don't. Put so much pressure on doing so
• 1:35:37
  much in a day where you can so much more in 5-10 years, because
• 1:35:42
  that's minimal. It's going to take one to three
• 1:35:44
  years to do some of the things that you really want to do.
• 1:35:47
  Well, it takes, was it? Say they take it takes 10 years
• 1:35:49
  to be an overnight success. Yes, You know, Yes, it's a
• 1:35:53
  marathon, not a Sprint. Understand it's like like if you
• 1:35:56
  look at the story of the bamboo, how how long does it take for a
• 1:35:59
  bamboo to grow once it's in the floor?
• 1:36:02
  I think it takes almost eight months.
• 1:36:04
  You don't see anything and then within three weeks it's it's at
• 1:36:07
  its highest point. Like that's what people don't
• 1:36:10
  understand. And it was, I think it's a lot
• 1:36:13
  longer for the growing point, like it's underground, it's a
• 1:36:16
  lot longer, but that's what people don't understand is like
• 1:36:19
  you have to put in the time, you have to put in the and let it,
• 1:36:22
  let it grow because you can't just go after it and just think
• 1:36:27
  that oh, within a month I'll be rich.
• 1:36:29
  That's not how it works if you're willing.
• 1:36:32
  To put in five years and not see it a dime.
• 1:36:35
  You'll win the person that enjoys the walk instead of the.
• 1:36:39
  Destination. Yep.
• 1:36:43
  I've said that for the longest too.
• 1:36:44
  You know where it's about the journey.
• 1:36:48
  It ain't about the the destination.
• 1:36:50
  Because again, you're not going to, you're not going to find
• 1:36:53
  those nooks. You're not going to find those
• 1:36:55
  goat paths, those rabbit holes. You're not going to find those
• 1:36:59
  those deep and dark places to explore if you're just.
• 1:37:01
  Haul an ass rushing through, trying to get to the end.
• 1:37:05
  You're going to miss so much along the way that you could
• 1:37:06
  have benefited from. So that's life.
• 1:37:10
  No matter what you do, whether it's trying to pursue wealth,
• 1:37:13
  whether it's fitness, whether it's your, you know,
• 1:37:16
  spirituality. I mean anything it it it takes
• 1:37:20
  time and nurturing and organic. You know so much of what I I
• 1:37:28
  follow is. Is community based and it's but
• 1:37:32
  that's the thing that's lost nowadays.
• 1:37:33
  Like people at large, just they don't have the same sense of
• 1:37:37
  community as we once did. And trying to force that only
• 1:37:42
  ends up with it. It doesn't take hold, the roots
• 1:37:46
  don't sink in and then it be it just, it fizzles out, you know.
• 1:37:49
  So you got to be in it for the long haul.
• 1:37:51
  You got to be ready to put in the work in the time, the effort
• 1:37:54
  to nurture it along its way. And see its growth as it happens
• 1:37:58
  organically. Yes.
• 1:37:59
  Feed it. Yes, Nurture it.
• 1:38:00
  Make sure that if anything pops up that needs to be trimmed out
• 1:38:03
  or or or cleaned up along the way that you're taking care of
• 1:38:06
  it. But let it grow, man.
• 1:38:08
  Like let let the roots sink in. Let it take hold, let it
• 1:38:11
  blossom, let it die along the way.
• 1:38:13
  I mean there's there's all of these like metaphysical things
• 1:38:16
  that you can add to the to the growth dynamic.
• 1:38:19
  You know what I mean? Like it's it's we see it around
• 1:38:22
  us everywhere. It's we're part of it.
• 1:38:24
  We're part of that experience. So what we apply that that
• 1:38:29
  energy to is is it's gonna, it's gonna be an extension of us and
• 1:38:34
  our whole experience so. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:38:37
  Yeah. But this has been great, man.
• 1:38:39
  I'm gonna actually gonna wrap it up here, if you don't mind,
• 1:38:41
  just, you know, stick around so I can, you know, bid you a
• 1:38:46
  farewell. But yeah, everybody that's
• 1:38:48
  that's listening and watching today.
• 1:38:49
  David Masano, right? Yes, right.
• 1:38:53
  But yeah, David Masano. I mentioned, I don't know real
• 1:38:56
  quick before, I don't know, want to speak out of turn because did
• 1:38:58
  you, did you serve in the military?
• 1:39:00
  I did serve. That's a whole other story.
• 1:39:03
  Yeah, I didn't want to. If that's a whole other story
• 1:39:06
  and stuff, then I don't want to get too deep into it.
• 1:39:08
  But I do want to say thank you for your service and I'm I'm
• 1:39:13
  sure that it had a part in everything.
• 1:39:16
  You know, you're welcome to say something really briefly if you
• 1:39:19
  want about it before we wrap up, so.
• 1:39:22
  That that's what put me. It gave me the discipline in the
• 1:39:24
  mindset and the grit to be to be chasing this and be able to be
• 1:39:28
  strong enough to give this to the world.
• 1:39:31
  So you had that, that formal training to get to put you in a
• 1:39:35
  position to to apply it in the civilian sector in their
• 1:39:39
  civilian life. And that's great.
• 1:39:41
  I'm glad to hear you have had an experience, you know, from your
• 1:39:46
  childhood through your youth. Such a life potentially
• 1:39:50
  lifechanging experience, you know battling with really dark
• 1:39:52
  things that you wanted to end it.
• 1:39:54
  You push through. You found a place to to apply
• 1:39:59
  yourself in. You also went to the extent of
• 1:40:03
  you know, serving your country and and that experience really
• 1:40:06
  helped amplify your ability to apply yourself and and do these
• 1:40:10
  things. And now here you are in in the
• 1:40:13
  West Coast of the United States helping other people.
• 1:40:16
  And and and helping people I guess maybe across the world
• 1:40:19
  too. I mean I don't know how far your
• 1:40:21
  client clientele bases but the sky is the limit.
• 1:40:23
  I I feel like you've got that vision to to to to get out of
• 1:40:27
  your own backyard and and really help people and it's it's been
• 1:40:31
  exciting to hear the passion that you shared with us today
• 1:40:35
  and I appreciate that. Of course, thank you so much for
• 1:40:38
  letting me share. That's my goal is to get it out
• 1:40:41
  there as far and wide as possible, because I know it's
• 1:40:43
  going to reach many hearts. And I know that there's people
• 1:40:46
  in the audience that I tend to attract.
• 1:40:51
  There's always people looking for ways to just get through
• 1:40:56
  life, you know, and find ways of getting through life in the best
• 1:41:01
  way possible. So for anybody out here
• 1:41:03
  listening and watching, that is touched by what David's been
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• 1:41:34
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• 1:41:36
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  fickle algorithm gods so and graciously demand of us.
• 1:41:56
  And until we talk to each other again, may the gods continue to
• 1:42:00
  notice you and may your ancestors smile upon you.
• 1:42:03
  And thank you, David for being on here today.