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Trevor Long actually joins us in person to chat CES and challenges Gordie · The Driver's Show

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  Speaker 1: Sure, it's weird. Did you see during the week Trevor
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Long was found in a park shirtless fighting with Carl Stefanovic.
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  Speaker 2: And I did hear about that?
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  Speaker 1: Actually, I mean, Trevor Long is going to be here
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  Speaker 1: in this studio talking about what was that friggin' um
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  Speaker 1: what was that lgb Q pageant?
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  Speaker 2: He went to what's that the one you hosted? Didn't
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  Speaker 2: you do commentary for one of those?
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  Speaker 1: That was a that was the Australian Cheerleading Championships?
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  Speaker 2: That that won't be happening again. I sort of read
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  Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about that emperor.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about anyway.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was a politician.
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  Speaker 2: So the corn guy, Thank you, good music, the best
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  Speaker 2: common podcast out there. Comedy podcast again not my words,
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  Speaker 2: makes me laugh every episode and sometimes they even get
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  Speaker 2: to a car review. And then this one came through,
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  Speaker 2: which we're gonna have to Trevor about. The title is wow,
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  Speaker 2: that's terrible accurate so far this is I don't have
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  Speaker 2: a problem with that. Barry is zero one, nine seventy okay,
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  Speaker 2: very unique name, he wrote. I heard of this show recently,
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  Speaker 2: so I listened to the episode with Trevor Long. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not sure who Gordy Waters is, but it was not
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  Speaker 2: all that funny, just poor humor. I watched some of
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  Speaker 2: Paul's car reviews thank you, and they are good. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: So I assumed this would be a podcast version if that,
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  Speaker 2: but it's really not. What's this guy's name, Barry zero
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  Speaker 2: one nine seventy.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Barry. If you wanted an audio version of a
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  Speaker 1: man in a sensible pair of slacks with shoes from
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  Speaker 1: Rivers and a fucking T shirt that's a little bit
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  Speaker 1: too small, then with all due respect, go fuck yourself.
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  Speaker 2: And at the end of the show, we've got some
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  Speaker 2: emails to read out as well, because we've got a
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  Speaker 2: stack of those that I haven't really replied to you yet,
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  Speaker 2: so I've just left it for the show. So right, anyway,
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  Speaker 2: let's do some news on hopefully Treviton.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for telling us what's coming up on the show.
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  Speaker 1: You're very professional today, Paul Paolo, You're very professional.
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  Speaker 2: Racist.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm not. I love you. By the way, I'm
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  Speaker 1: starting to call you Pallo for now on.
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  Speaker 2: It's given. That's not my name, it's power, but no,
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  Speaker 2: you just pronounce it however you like.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry badly, you know I do you know how I
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  Speaker 1: found out your real name.
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  Speaker 2: Was a legal letter.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, okay, so I'm being sued, But who
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  Speaker 1: the fuck is pavl Merrek? Who's Pavlo Marrek, there must
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  Speaker 1: be a mistake.
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  Speaker 2: The backstory to that is my actual name is Pavlet,
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  Speaker 2: and the reason I use Paul is because people like
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  Speaker 2: Gordy can't pronounce it. And I went to a very
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  Speaker 2: very very very low rent public primary school and it
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  Speaker 2: was full of all right heartbreak high anyway, basically we
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  Speaker 2: all went to a low rent public school. No, no,
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  Speaker 2: this one was the type where it should have metal detectors,
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  Speaker 2: but it didn't at the time.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, get your school bag burnt, good lunchtime. There's Paul's
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  Speaker 1: Little Angela's ashes sub story. And now look at you. Now,
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  Speaker 1: So hey, let's get into some car news, because we're
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  Speaker 1: a car podcast, remember that. So this is interesting and
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  Speaker 1: I can't really don't really get the mats on this.
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  Speaker 1: You you were in the hallway and you're telling me, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: you know what's interesting that we should talk about, And
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  Speaker 1: I said, no, please tell me, and you said, use.
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  Speaker 1: Car prices are down by ten percent, but still fifty
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  Speaker 1: percent higher than they were three years ago, pretty covid.
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  Speaker 2: And I went past me that full fat coke.
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  Speaker 1: And that full fat donner and I'll get back to you.
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  Speaker 2: Let me explain this. So there's a there's a research
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  Speaker 2: firm out there called Moody's. And I was going to say, Nick,
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  Speaker 2: give my wife, but I'm not going to say that
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  Speaker 2: this Moody's, but she listened to this podcast. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: going to say the mood is. So what they've found,
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: and they've been tracking the used car price index, is
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  Speaker 2: that since COVID started, used car prices peaked roughly midway
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  Speaker 2: through last year twenty twenty two. They're now up by
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  Speaker 2: a little over fifty percent in terms of the wholesale
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  Speaker 2: price of used cars. That's on the way down now,
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  Speaker 2: So it has peaked and it's now coming back down.
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  Speaker 2: And the big advantage of that is that that has
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  Speaker 2: a flow on effect and new cars as well, because
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  Speaker 2: as interest rates go up, people start canceling new car
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  Speaker 2: orders and moving to the second hand market. The second
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  Speaker 2: hand market then becomes cheaper, but because you don't have
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  Speaker 2: as much flow on too, that.
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  Speaker 1: It almost somewhat starts to correct itself.
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  Speaker 2: Right exactly, so they reckon. There's probably still another ten
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  Speaker 2: percent to come out of it this year, but it
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  Speaker 2: will still be higher than pre COVID levels, so we
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  Speaker 2: will still be paying more, and we are seeing some
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  Speaker 2: examples out there of people paying ten grand for a
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  Speaker 2: ten year old car for their kid that's done two
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  Speaker 2: hundred thousand k's and that's just insane because ten grand
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  Speaker 2: used to buy like a low mileage Master two, which
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  Speaker 2: is a car you'd have your child in. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think that it is getting better, but it is
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  Speaker 2: still way too expensive. And my advice is be careful
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  Speaker 2: what you're buying secondhand, because a car that you're paying
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  Speaker 2: fifty percent more for now, in two or three years time,
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  Speaker 2: when this level's out, you're not going to be able
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  Speaker 2: to get that fifty percent back on what it would
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  Speaker 2: have already depreciated between now and then. So and that
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  Speaker 2: applies also to electric cars that a lot of model
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  Speaker 2: threes have been dumped on the market, and if you
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  Speaker 2: end up with one of those.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you they are not cheap enough, like
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  Speaker 1: they need to just plummet.
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  Speaker 2: Because but that's what's happening in the States. You're seeing
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  Speaker 2: the prices come out of the new teslas. That's affecting
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  Speaker 2: the second hand right yeah, well here as well, But
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  Speaker 2: the problem is the secondhand one. Some of the cheaper
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  Speaker 2: ones have sixty eighty one hundred thousand k's on them,
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  Speaker 2: and as a result of that, you're buying one now
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  Speaker 2: because you think it's a bargain. As battery technology advances,
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  Speaker 2: in two or three years time, you've got a plasma
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  Speaker 2: TV whenever ones using LED TVs that you paid too
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  Speaker 2: much for because you use car prices were up and
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  Speaker 2: the batteries next to useless compared to the new stuff
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  Speaker 2: on the market.
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  Speaker 1: So personally, because I looked into this, I looked at
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  Speaker 1: buying secondhand a secondhand ev I just I'm now well
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  Speaker 1: clear of it. I will not touch it. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: touching it because it's not worth it. Also, like we're
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  Speaker 1: starting to kind of really realize the degeneration of what
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  Speaker 1: these batteries are doing in say a Tesla after a
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  Speaker 1: couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: Like, look that I'm not so concerned about that. Some
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  Speaker 2: will degrade more than others depending on the type of
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  Speaker 2: driving and charging that you're doing. It's more just that
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  Speaker 2: you've got an outdated thing that really can't be fixed
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  Speaker 2: unless you replace the battery. That is the core thing
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  Speaker 2: that's outdated, that is where the majority of the cost is.
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  Speaker 2: And if you think about a traditional internal combustion cars,
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  Speaker 2: they have technical advances every now and then, but it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't make your vehicle I'm not gonna say obsolete, but
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  Speaker 2: far less good, you know, compared to the rest of them.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that's probably just something i'd be weary
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  Speaker 2: of on the seat can hand market. And also just
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  Speaker 2: buying yourself a lemon that's going to cost you a
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  Speaker 2: heap of money if you're paying more for it. Now,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to tip more money into it to fix it,
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  Speaker 2: and then it's going to be worth virtually nothing in
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  Speaker 2: two or three years time when you factor in all
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  Speaker 2: the money you've spent on it. So if you can
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  Speaker 2: buy a new car because you're covered by a new
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  Speaker 2: car warranty.
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  Speaker 1: But I was going to say, you know what's interesting,
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  Speaker 1: the best deal you can get is a new car.
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  Speaker 1: Like if you're looking for a cheap car for your
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  Speaker 1: grandma or your kid or a run around town, and
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  Speaker 1: you're looking at say an MG three, right, you're paying
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  Speaker 1: like seventeen grand And let's.
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  Speaker 2: Not get out aboutselves.
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean.
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  Speaker 4: Of those?
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean I'll recommend one.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's people out there that need a car. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I don't care, I'm just using them as in grample
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  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. My point is moody, like, what's affordable is
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  Speaker 1: a brand new car over the over the second hand ones?
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  Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: The point of that is right, and that's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: I know that some cars like Arab four two year
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  Speaker 2: weight whatever, you might not want to wait for one
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  Speaker 2: of those. But if it means you buy one of
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  Speaker 2: these Chinese SUVs, you're getting a seven yu warranty. It'll
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  Speaker 2: depreciate probably a whole lot more than the Red four will.
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  Speaker 2: But ultimately you're not doing what you're going to do
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  Speaker 2: on the second hand market, which is buying a car
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  Speaker 2: that's potentially out of warranty or nearly out of warranty,
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  Speaker 2: and then you go to sell it without warranty. It's
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  Speaker 2: then not really going to be worth much. So I
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  Speaker 2: think it is just worth keeping that in mind on
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  Speaker 2: used cars. So my tuned out, Yeah, I noticed.
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  Speaker 1: I'm basically waiting for Trev to come in here because
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to wait to see who passes more gas
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  Speaker 1: mel Trev.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever been to China?
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  Speaker 1: Yes? I have?
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  Speaker 2: Interesting Where did you go?
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  Speaker 1: Did you say China or Vagina? What's your point?
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  Speaker 3: So?
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  Speaker 2: Did you know that Chinese car exports to Australia are
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  Speaker 2: up by six hundred percent over the past four years. Controversially,
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  Speaker 2: we are slapped with a lot of tariffs and other
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  Speaker 2: stuff from China, but we are buying more Chinese made
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  Speaker 2: vehicles than ever before, like a lot more, and a
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: lot of that comes down to Tesla as well. Some
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  Speaker 2: people don't know that you're Tesla's China Chinese. Matter of fact,
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  Speaker 2: we made in China. So I don't have an issue
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  Speaker 2: with it, because you know, I use a phone that's
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  Speaker 2: probably made I think iPhone's made in China. We buy
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  Speaker 2: a lot of products that are made in China. But
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  Speaker 2: I just thought it was an interesting thing. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of people don't actually think about that when they're buying
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  Speaker 2: their car, and a lot of people I love in
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: the comments they jump up and down about the you know,
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  Speaker 2: the influx of cars that are coming from China. But
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  Speaker 2: what does it actually mean and what is the problem
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  Speaker 2: with it? I guess is my question.
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  Speaker 1: Is there a problem with it?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so, but a lot of commenters seem
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  Speaker 2: to think there is.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just Daniel, he's commenting on it. What's the problem? Oh,
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: you know what, I know, I know who you're saying,
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  Speaker 1: I know you're talking about that sort of that demographic
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  Speaker 1: of people who are like, you're.
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  Speaker 4: Buying a bloody Chinese cat, They're fucking horrible. I tell
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  Speaker 4: you what else is horrible, bloody race Rand, We're going
• 11:01
  Speaker 4: to fucking cornella on that thing. It's bloody horrible. And
• 11:07
  Speaker 4: tell you what else is horrible. I've got a terrible
• 11:10
  Speaker 4: bell situation. I got it back from when I came
• 11:15
  Speaker 4: back from Vietnam. I'm so lonely, you know what. I
• 11:22
  Speaker 4: think I might comment on the Drivers Show podcast and
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: Shay how read it out again.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, that sort of people, I think so so Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I just thought it was an interesting stat The other
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  Speaker 2: thing as well, is that when your car comes from China,
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: it is cheaper to build, typically depending on where it's
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  Speaker 2: it's manufactured. And because of the amount of goods that
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: come from China, the economies of scale are there to
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  Speaker 2: ship it here for cheaper.
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  Speaker 1: And they can generally get it here quicker like a
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  Speaker 1: lot of Chinese manufacturers are delivering the goods by.
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  Speaker 2: D Yeah, and Tesla has been reducing their prices globally
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  Speaker 2: on the to as demand tapers off, and I think
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  Speaker 2: that's just showing you, there is a lot of margin
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  Speaker 2: in cars, especially these cars that are built in China,
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  Speaker 2: and that perhaps other brands have a lot to answer for.
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  Speaker 2: They've been jacking their prices up during COVID under the
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  Speaker 2: auspice of semiconductor shortages, shipping costs. It's like Quantus. Every
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: time there's some fuel price surge, they go, oh, we've
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: got to put that up. It never comes back down.
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  Speaker 2: And it's the same story here with new cars. We're
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  Speaker 2: really not seeing them reducing price as quickly as we've
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: seen them going up in price, even though market conditions
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  Speaker 2: far more favorable.
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  Speaker 1: So do you think Tesla's in a concerning place right now?
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  Speaker 1: Because I feel like there could be a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of who are on the horizon. At one point they
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  Speaker 1: kind of had the monopoly, and now a lot of
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  Speaker 1: these car companies are really sort of catching up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is something I'll be keen to ask
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  Speaker 2: Trevor if he actually comes in. But I think Tesla
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: there the current market cap of that company is four
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: hundred and eighteen billion dollars. Now Tesla really only well,
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  Speaker 2: they didn't actually make that many cars. If you look
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: at the major car brands out there, they make roughly
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: give or take a similar amount of cars to Ford
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  Speaker 2: on just one model. So Ford makes around a midion
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  Speaker 2: F one fifties a year. Tesla manufacturers around a million
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  Speaker 2: new cars a year. Yet they're valued at many multiples
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  Speaker 2: above Ford. The reason for that is it's valued as
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: a tech company because of the promise of things to
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  Speaker 2: come for Tesla in terms of autonomy and stuff. But
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: ultimately we're seeing a lot of that stuff really isn't
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  Speaker 2: working that well. At the moment. The share price is
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: rebounding a little bit, but with Elon Musk busy doing
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: other stuff at the moment, I just think that they
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  Speaker 2: really need to get their act together and get on
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  Speaker 2: with it. Their concept of having a car that looks
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: the same on the outside but is updated on the inside.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's redundant.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't think that'll work when I see so
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: many model wires out there, and in fact, I'm writing
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: a story at the moment about my model why, which
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: we'll talk about on the next episode. But they are everywhere.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: They like the new camera, and each time I see one,
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: I think, God, the thing is ugly. So I tried
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: to tell you, when you're inside it, you don't notice,
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: but when you see it, you're like, it's really not
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: a nice looking car.
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  Speaker 1: But it's like my ex girlfriend. I mean, when I
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: was inside it, I didn't notice.
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  Speaker 2: But Jesus Christ, oh, I see someone at the front door.
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  Speaker 2: Oh who's that? I don't know, but the imposing figure,
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  Speaker 2: I think that might be Trevor.
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  Speaker 3: To get him.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that's Trevor.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's my divorced accountant who has a drinking problem.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: And I think he did the tax return on the
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: bonnet of his car. It gets actually, and then he
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  Speaker 1: just he just ashed out of dart on the windscreen
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: of his car, and oh no, wait, that is Trevor.
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  Speaker 1: Come on in, Trevor.
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  Speaker 3: Have you noticed how out of focus gord he is?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually said that to him. His picture is
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: very pixelated, and that often happens with photoshop when you
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: try and sort of horizontally shrink things.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm just distracted. A note. I heard of this
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: show recently, listening to the episode with Trevor Long. I'm
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: not sure who Gordy Waters is, but not at all funny,
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: just poor humor. I watched some of Paul's reviews and
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  Speaker 3: they're good. I assume this would be a podcast version
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  Speaker 3: of that, but it's.
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  Speaker 1: Really not well played.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: That's a recent review on this show.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, getting injured, You.
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  Speaker 1: Did that really well. We actually, honestly I read that
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: and I thought this stinks of Trevor Long.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: No.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: No, I'm just going to say this right now to
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Barry one nine seven reach out FM dot com. I'll
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: send you some merchandise. Man, that's a great review.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Send your merchandise yourself, alright, I'll send him a was
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: your Christmas party? By the way? Was it was?
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  Speaker 4: It?
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Just you go out with yourself on the photo.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: You know when you're you know, just kiss your kiss
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: your hand, just really tongue right in the Handez, there
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  Speaker 3: is no one else.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Can you give us a little bit of an audio
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: description of how that would?
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: I'm not doing it again.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: Do it again?
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: You missed your opportunity. Isolate the audio, work it out.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: Wow. How is your Chris?
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: He's already tech flex He's come back from his little
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: cees or whatever, some bloody some gang bang in Germany?
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: Where'd you go to Germany? That's sorry? In Berlin in
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: September right, Barcelona is mobile will Congress ces is in
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: Las Vegas.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: In Vegas. You've come back from Vegas.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: Back from Vegas.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, did you get those you know, those little hooker
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: cars on the street.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: You know they don't have them anymore. That was I
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: always that wastwhere. Now there's people walking around with big
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: thirty two inch screens on their back with a QR code.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Oh really, I'm thinking this is not Vegas. Come on,
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: but then it is Vegas because it's just more screens.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Well, can I just share very quickly one of the
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: a story about those cards. When I was there with
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: some mates. Probably she wasn't what she said she was
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: going to do it six years.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Ago, all work up with a basoline on his butt.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: One of the one of the guys I was with,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: got a bit hammered and he accepted one of the cards,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: and they said, well you'll get free entry, free drinks,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: and free transfers to the to the club club and anyway,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: We're like, okay, let's do this. And I said to
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: the guys, this will not be free. I guarantee it.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: And the limo rolled up and it was some blokes
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: old suv. We all pile into this thing and arrive
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: at the club and the guy goes, who's got my tip?
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: And I said tip. The guy told us it was free,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: and he goes, no, you need to give me a tip,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: and I said, okay, how much do I give you? Guys?
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: About one hundred dollars. I'm like, I literally could have
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: charted a private jet to get you for cheaper. Went inside,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: the drinks were not free, and the club patrons were
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: not very nice.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: That were criminals and.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Bikes at the door. You should have been a dead giveaway.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: No, Donald was not there.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: You're at the top of the stairs looking down like,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: what is that a canoe?
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Down?
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Man?
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Top it?
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: They're like, whatever you've just heard was not We just
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: heard that's been hited out.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Anyway, let's talk c Yes, Trevor Long's here, everybody in
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: the flesh, and I honestly thank you for not glassing me.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: That's a plus. I can't promise the same back.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Oh you mean smashing in the face with the bottle. Yeah,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: the day.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: There's a reason why we've got class.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: It's like going to the cricket. You can't take glass anywhere.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: No, I'm interested. BMW prior to See Yes, started doing
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of advertising on their Twitter that was
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: random stuff about a new service they were launching. Can
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: you run me through what D is or I still
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: don't understand what that's to be.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: He's a concept car. I'm going to say design. No,
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: I can't remember what it stands for, but design emotion
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: something like that. Right. Do you remember last year they
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: had a concept car that was black and white changing color.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: It was like a kindle e ink but all over
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: it and you could change the color from one. It
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: looks pretty cool, but it looked horrible within about a
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: meter and a half, it just looked terrible.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like that was the sort of car
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: that it's cool that they came up with the concept
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: and that they've sort of executed it. But you know,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: the triangles and stuff with the like, you could really sort.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Of it was a great way to get attention, which
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: is important at a show like CS. There's I always
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: describe CS as being about nine mcg's field space worth
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: of just place to walk around and show like it's
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: not empty, its exhibits all that space. It's crazy, so
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: you've got to get attention, right.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Was it like your sex bow kind of just you know.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Bigger, that's all yeah, they always want bigger. Anyways, the
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: color changing car was cool, but it was it was just,
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: you know, some sort of random car. They code it
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: so D is a proper concept car and sense that
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: it's a new new look.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I've got a bit.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Have you seen the car?
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: It looks like a Tarana.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: It looks like a modern Tarana, and I'm like, I
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: would buy this tomorrow if it was a real car
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: full stop, as a as a body design, you know,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: as a piece of automotive design. I went, geez, if
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: that is your new look, I'm all in.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Because that's the thing they look at. The moment they
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: look at the moment is a bit kind of well you.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: May know about this, but I first i'd heard it.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: They call it a Neier class, which assume means new class.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: But twenty twenty five there's a new class, which I
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: assume is a new design language and all that kind
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: of stuff. So there was two of them, there, two
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: of these Tarana looking cars.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: You reckon that looks like a Tarana.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: May get a rear court view, that side on view,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: and I think a rear court of view it made,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: and also size wise, that's a rear we need a
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: rear quarter. Come on, mate, come on, it's his first day.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: It's his first day.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: There it is.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: It's just a smaller.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: It still doesn't look like yes.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: But you don't look like you're in focus in any
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: of the images either. We can move on anyway like
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: a tech review guy.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: But that's fine.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: I'm still doing it. There's two of these cars, right.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: One of them is pure white with yellow wheels. The
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: other one is fancy color changes and it's it's cool again,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: but it's thirty two colors this time.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Now I've got to say, you know, going from red
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: to white to whatever, very cool. But then it in there,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: let's call it a three minute loop of colors that
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: we just go through. There was one where it was
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: white with like an M stripe in a blue and
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: a red stripe, and I went that that's what I do.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: I drive a blue car every day, and then i'd
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: go for the weekends. It's going to be you know,
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: I thought was cool, but still up close, not overly
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: impressive as a technology. So I think the color changing stuff,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: forget all that for a minute. You get inside it
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: and it's all about, you know, a journey, you know,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: you've got to sign up for a freaking avatar, and
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: you've got to create a cartoon that books. Like you
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: walk up to the car, it says welcome. Trevor and
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I went.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: The first person who said.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: In the room, and I'm like, I here my name,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: so and on the on the window you're standing outside
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: the car. On the window, the driver's window is your
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: cartoon avatar. It says welcome, your name and everything. So
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: it's kind of cool. And I'm thinking, is this you
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: know digital glass something. It's just projectors. There's just little
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: projectors in the anyway. So you sit down, you sit
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: in and then they've got this whole virtual experience. Now
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: what I took from it was that they want metaverse
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: and all that other bullshit that people are talking about.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: But the real technology here was the head up display.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: What's the biggest See that.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Biggest head up display I think today would probably be
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: in Murk, you know, have they have a reasonable size one.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: If you put it in front of it's like a
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: small tablet. Let's say on the screen, this is full
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: width and half height, because you're never really looking over
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: half height.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: As in over on the passenger side.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: The whole width of the dashboard is hud and half
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: the height is potentially hard and it's look they really
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: I think they stuffed up badly because they talked about
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: things like social media. No one wants to hear about
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: that it's going to ruin the concept, but that there's
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: no screens at all in this car, No dash screen,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: no infertainment screen. It's all meant to be on the window.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: They said to me, this now broad This technology will
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: be in the new class twenty twenty five BMW's I
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: don't imagine it will be as intense as this, but
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: I totally believe that they'll. They'll do the full projection.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: And the thing that I think was most impressive was
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: not just your speed looks better because it's bigger, and
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: it's not a tiny little fucking display that you can't
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: quite see if you're off angle. It's just things like navigation.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: You get that all me to reality navigation, which was
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: saying you, well, this is like drawn on the road.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Imagine you're driving along the freeway and the road it
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: looks normal through the vision, but then suddenly the road
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: becomes a blue or a yellow line which shows you
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: which exit to take, as if it's on the road
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: in front of you. It does look cool, and when
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: you can use the whole screen, it looks so much
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: better for the driver.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I reckon it'll freak people out. I don't think it's
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: for everyone.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: I don't think it is. But then, okay, think about Warnings.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: The other demo that they did before they went into
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: the metaverse and I tuned out and started to feel sick,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: was warnings. So you've got some idiot cyclist coming down
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: the right hand side from a side street. It's coming
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: into your lane. You might have senses on a car
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: now that beep a bit or something, right, this thing
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: kind of the whole bottom of the windscreen flashes red,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: you know, collision alerts, and the cyclist is highlighted by
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: a red square, and it follows them in augmented reality
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: as well, being warned like I prefer a target, but
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: that will get the going.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: But just looking for channel email again, I'm going to
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: send straight to it, throwing him under the that stuff.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: That stuff's cool.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if you can nail it, yeah, exactly, that's
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: the hard bit. And I think that you mentioned there
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: about the lanes that tech. They've started rolling that out now.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: We recently drove the EQSSUV that will actually tell you
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: which lane you're in on the freeway, which then helps
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: you dictate where the EXOD is if you then add
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: this in as well, where you actually have it overlaid
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: on the screen in front of you, it is useful information.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: My concern though, and I'm keen to get your both
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: of your views on this. Tesla was pushing hard for
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: full self driving and autonomy and that sort of stuff.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: We've seen countless videos on the Internet of it not working,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: and previously they were only manually allowing people that they
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: knew would be favorable. They let other people in and
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: then all the negative stuff started coming out. Over Christmas
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: they rolled out a free enhanced auto pilot thing for owners.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: I tested it. It was the shittest thing I've ever
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: tested to change lanes like I was at Albert Park,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Like Grand Prix was crazy. Do you think that the
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: glosses wearing off that we're seeing manufacturers kind of stepping
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: back a little from that hands off driving in and
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: around the city. I think maybe highways that all work
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: in the future, But do you reckon there will be
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: a future where you can get into a car and
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: it will confidently drive around a school zone and not
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: run into something that shouldn't run into.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: The first CSO went to was twenty twelve, and I
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: remember going to Lexus and all these There was a
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: lot more car companies there back then, but there was
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: a lot of talk of autonomy, and I remember I
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: think it was a guy a Lexis was saying, we're
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: still fifteen years away, you know, trying to put a
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: damper on it. I don't remember anyone talking about it
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: this year. Now there's a lot of companies Slidar and
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: all that stuff on the floor trying to sell it.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: But it's not like Mercedes wor BMW from you know what.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I can remember just you know, sitting in cars and
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: looking at stuff. We're really talking about autonomy. They're talking
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: more about the experience, Yes, exactly, we're talking more about
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: the experience. I mean the best example of that is Ford.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: By twenty twenty one will be selling the mass productiononymous vehicles.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I wrote in Detroit it was sick, but it.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Never happened, and it only worked in that one little Yeah, exactly.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know what Gord are you are fair? You
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: have thought? Do you think it's coming.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I think we are a long way off from this,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: a long way. I think it's also a lot to
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: do with social kind of change as well. I think
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: this is going to take a lot of convincing to people.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: The augmented reality stuff. I just think it's going a
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: bit too overboard. I get some of it in my
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: car a little bit, and I just get it turned off.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: My question is when does the driver's feel of the
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: car going to change? Because that will happen, and that's
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: going to happen over time, because right now, a lot
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: of it's intuition, do you know what I mean? And
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff is kind of taking over.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: I think that and this is the bubble we live in,
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: you way more than us. But you don't realize how
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: much of that already exists in a car. You know,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: you get people buy a car today, they think adaptive
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: cruise controls amazing to a lot of people. Right The
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: fact that your car will slow when it approaches other
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: cars on.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: A freeway, that shit's still amazing to people. Right.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: So we are so far off the reality of people
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: finding a good lane keepersystant you know, you think about
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: you buy a cheap car with lankkeep assists. It's bumper,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: it's bumper Bowler.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: And you end up switching it off, and you switch
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: it off because you think it's crap, So then you assume.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: And that's the mentality problem that Tesla and everyone's god is.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: They think it's going to be horrible, autonomous and just
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: not a great feeling. But I think if you look
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: at I think it's OUDI they're sell in Europe, they
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: sell you know, it might be a eight S eight
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: or something like that has a freeway or auto barn
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: or autonomous driving, which they back, so they but sign
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: off on it.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Get this. So I went to Germany to test that out.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I was at the passenger seat of this car. They
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: called it traffic jam Assist, and it was designed to
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: work only up to sixty but it was hands off,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: eyes off, level three and they were going to release
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: it with a eight, and all of a sudden they
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: stopped it. Oh really wouldn't because they had that issue
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: where they had to back it and they were originally
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: going to. And then there was a whole bunch of
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: calamity with lawyers.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: We all know the lawyers can be problematic.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: They've no children. Do we bring up your employers or.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: They're not my employment. I'm self employed.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, wow, you're associates.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that I don't know. I just
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: don't love the eye. And I also I don't consent
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: to being on the road when some dickhead and his
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Tesla has got full self driving.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: In America, it's my biggest fear because you're passing someone
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: on the road. Because we pretty much always have a
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: car when we're in America, especially for seous we're there
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: for twelve thirty days. We're driving around and be escalade
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: or something, right, and you drive past tesla and I
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: always look in are they one hand on, one finger on?
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: And what are you looking for?
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Thelbums? You want more than a finger? Right?
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Well, there was that a bit of a three finger man.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Full fist if you like wow, I mean you've got
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: to keep the weight on the steering wheel. If you
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: don't keep the weight on the steering wheel, if.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: We lose Trevor in this building, we just have to
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: follow the yellow drop road. That's all we need to do.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: I think that the challenge is see here's what I
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: want to see. One of my favorite cars I ever
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: owned was a BMW three zero before I had a
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: family and kids and couldn't afford it. Let alone could
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: fit them right. I loved it for its drive, it's
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: technology and everything, but I want a BMW that has
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: things like the augmented navigation once if you're tortured, because
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: this is the big problem I handover of a new car.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: How long are they spending with people. It's like you
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: need the team to take you on a drive for
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: an hour before you get it. Given the key warnings,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: I think anything safety is awesome and I think that
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: the good companies, and I'm suggesting Tesla's not one of them,
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: ben W, Mercedes, Audi, they're the companies that I look
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: to and go. Man, their warnings are amazing, and I
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: want that. I want more warnings. I want more help
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: as a driver because we all stumble at times, get
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: distracted or whatever it is. So if it's a windscreen
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: going red, you know, literally flashing at me, that makes
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: me throttle off, or it does it automatically, if it's
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: highlighting something bad, even if it's just just subtly because
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: it's a pedestrian on the side of the road, things
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: like that, Oh just say, you know, we think that
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: pedestrian is going to walk out.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: That's correctly right.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I'd love to know if there's ever been a study
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: of like the past ten years with the tech that's
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: now in cars, because arguably we're driving the safest cars
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: we've ever driven. I wonder if there is the road
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: told to see.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: The problem number of cars, number of people. It's really
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: hard to get that data. But I think where I
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: have admiration is someone like Volva. You know, their commitment
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: to essentially I can't remember the number of the day,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: but it's no deaths in a new Volvo from let's
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: say twenty twenty six or something like that. They they
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: believe their cars are going to be not just safe
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: enough because Volvos have always been a level of safe, right,
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: but smart enough to help stop things from happening that
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: are happening. That's awesome. Let's talk about that more than
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: some bloke with cameras on a car creating autonomy. I
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: just think that's the story.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. And that's a thing with
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Tesla now they've moved away from any other sensus aside
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: from camera, and that is the biggest rookie era because
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: you can never have too many senses in my opinion,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: And if you had a radar on a car, why
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: would you not use that as redundancy that if a
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: camera detects like my car phantom breaks, if it detects
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: an overpass that it slams the brakes on for and
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: the radar says, hey, there's actually nothing there. You can
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: use those systems to learn.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: But now there, father, isn't there an ex ninety or
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: something that has like light on the top of the windscreen,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: radar in the front, and then cameras and it's like, yeah, cool,
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: give me everything and you make a judgment on what
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: you're seeing because that's what I.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: But just cameras really so stupid. The amount of times
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: we're driving in winter where you'll get a camera fog
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: up and warnings about this camera isn't working anymore. I
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: mean it's it just shows you that it's still not
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: there yet.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: How old was the article? Was it only recently you
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: published an article about your Why Yeah, we mentioned we're
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: gonna we're.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Gonna chat about this in our next episode, But my god,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: they went to town on me. And I've just never
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: buy one. No, And this is why I kind of
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: want to sell one, because I'm just sick of the
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Karens and all the other so it has to have
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: to come.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: In and nominally Jason, but okay, go on, but yeah,
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: those people.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: In my case it's Barry.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Daniel.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Daniel, Dan, you'll drop off.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, See Daniel, you know you're in a bit of
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: strife when even Trevor saying, go fuck yourself, Daniel.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: That's what I wrote down. I didn't want you to
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: say it, Jesus.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Aside from BMW other interesting car stuff at c Yes,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: you mentioned there weren't as many car brands there is.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: There's still an overtone with some of the other companies,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Like we're talking newer versions of Apple Car Play, Android
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Order as well rolling out. Do you see periphery stuff increasing.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Heaps of periphery stuff. Google was big talking about in
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: the next version of Andrew Orto. I didn't go deep
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: into it because iteration of that shit happens every six months.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: It's hard to keep track of. But Google has a
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: big presence there, kind of overarching the show, trying to
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: make sure, like Amazon, they're there because everything can have Amazon.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: They want it to be seen that way what used
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: to be. Have you been to see this haven't you
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: No never Okay, used to be what was called the
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: North Wall.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Which Tom which is very similar.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: But like I remember there being already being w C
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: because everyone is there. Now you get these kind of
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: overarching brands like Ram was there because they had this,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: they had their electric Weirdly, it showed up on the
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: third day of the show. The first two days of
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: the show empty, so I think they announced it in
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: the middle of the show and brought it there. It
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: was so weird that it.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Wasn't basically there. Yep.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: It literally was wheeled in one night in the middle
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: of its four day show. The fourth day is half like
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: a half day. They wielded in on the night.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Story That sounds like me handing in an assignment. I'm
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: just going to slip this in the teachers and no
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: one notices was the same.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: They had some freaky cool Persia might have been Persia
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: had this freaky cool looking card. They brought it in
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: the middle of the show. But you know a lot
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: of concepts, something called light speed or something that's an
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: electric solar thing. But the problem is, because you have
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: this lack of big brand and big stalls, big big exhibits,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: you end up with a lot of stuff that's affiliated
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: with cars, like light, our senses and you can nav
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: and all this kind of stuff that isn't really easy
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: to You can't just walk by and go what is this?
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: You've got to spend two hours. I'm like, man, I've
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: got things to do with We're not going to I'm
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: going to talk to gaudio. If I can't disseminate it
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: in thirty seconds, he's never going to get it right. Facts,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: that's true. So I think that's a challenge for it.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: But I actually think it's that's a pandemic thing. I
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: think that last year Mercedes was going to be there
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: and they literally abandoned like a week out. Their floor
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: space was just empty, which was twenty five thirty percent
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: or so. Last year was very weird. LG was the same,
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Like you're talking the two biggest companies world, Elgie and Samsung.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Last year Sampsung went all out. LG they you know
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: that kind a basketball court style would had that and
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: that was it. QR codes to scan fucking.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Really, that's the marketing chip, just chucking some vapor on
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: the floor and they were going, what are we going
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: to do?
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Anyway? So this year had Mercedes, you had BMW, but
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: there was there was a few American brands, vin Fast,
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: that a Vietnamese mob what's the Faraday? Weren't there in
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: the big way. The car was there on a stand,
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: but it wasn't there in a big way. You know.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: There was no overarching kind of theme or talk or
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: anything like that which there has been before. If there
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: was a theme, it was electric because there was the
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: RAM and there was a deep plug in hybrid.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I think yeah, they launched the Avenger or whatever.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: And then Avenger. Yeah, Avenger, it's an X Men movie,
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Captain America. Was there a driver? Yeah, I've never seen
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: the movies, so I wouldn't.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: It's a good gear from Trevor. Should put that in
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: the promo.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: But you know what with I've been to Seema a
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: few times. I love Seema. I think Seema is.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Just sorry even last what's this semens? What's what this
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: has to go?
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: There? Always?
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: No, I'm serious, I've got no idea.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Just imagine he didn't.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know the Special Equipment Manufacturers Association. It's basically so.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: There's people listening to this that they don't know about
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: your bloody festivals that you go to.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, can we just get I mean, what's the process
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: on Instagram? Is that how they follow your Instagram? Can
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: look seriously send us a dm is is a DMS open.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: On sladm's trails the drivers show.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Everyone knows what SEMA is chimp.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's in Vegas. Wow, So another huge setup.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: And this was the same thing last year. I was
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: watching SEEMA on Instagram. A lot of people didn't want
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: to attend because they imposed mask and vaccine mandates and
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: a lot of the Americans who follow this type.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Of stuff, that is your non mask.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, that is like, that's basically tru That's a trumpally,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: So over those.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Fucking cars, it's a Trump rally.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: But this was back in form last year. Sorry, the
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: year before that, yeah, twenty twenty two, this was back
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: in form, So I'm curious and CS is back on
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: the way up now.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: And it was so if they normally have one hundred
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: and sixty thousand people at c it was one hundred
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: and ten thousand this year. Yep, that was sixty last year.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah right, because again last year had had to be
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: double vacks. She had to be proved negative. It was
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: horrible plus year getting into an out of America. We
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: had to get tests as well. It was nightmares. So
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: this year was easy.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Is all this stuff back to normal? You think, like
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: the tech world in terms of all the hold ups
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: and stuff we've had. Yeah, all these guys came out
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: with concepts everything.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: I feel like from July last year, we were back
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: to normal, Like that's when my travel went back to normal.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Launches went back to normal, Apple went back to normal. Samsung.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Samsung actually hasn't had a physical tech event. They've only
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: had kind of big elaborate briefings, whereas I don't know
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: when you're putting this out, but next week in San
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Francisco having a proper venue event, so there'll be thousands
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: of people again. So I feel like they're back to normal.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: CS just needs it, just needs next year. So twenty
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: twenty four CS I think will be epic. I think
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: it'll be solid. I think I think your Audi's and
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: your other brands that weren't there this year will go. Actually,
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: BMW Mercedes did really well this year because.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: They had some show it looked sick because they got
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: attentions no longer happening. So it's events like SEEMA and
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: CES where they can do crazy shit at SEEMA and
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: then CS is all about tech and the future exactly
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: because every car has tech.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Right, That's the how I fell into this driving a
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: car thing because every because car companies like, can you
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: talk about this infertainment? I'm like whatever, And so every
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: car has tech, whether it's the safety tech or the
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: driver tech or whatever. And that's why I see this
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: is a great place to be because they get to
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: expose themselves like you and you would see this the
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: kind of people that get invited to things. You're like,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: who's this fucking bloke and he's an Instagram influencer. It's me,
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: yeah exactly, And people are.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Like there, I am there, I am rocket up and
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: everyone's like, yeah, that guy.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: You know what Paul does just saying because he does
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: what I do when they ring up? And so do
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: you want to come to wherever for you thing? I say,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: can you make sure I'm in the not in the
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: lifestyle cycle?
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: What does that even mean?
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: They have different when they have a car launch. They
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: do normally six days, two days for a bunch of
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: influences and ship and then two days for edge car
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: people like me, and then two days for actual car people.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Like Paul, they'll invite you to the first two days
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: meet it, the second two days he.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Doesn't even go to the first two days.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I didn't get invited for.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: I'm just letting you know, thanks for getting close. You're
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: getting close. So I think that I think that the
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: benefit of CS for brands is the exposure outside of motory. Yeah,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: I didn't mate. I'd never heard of the Mercedes Ben's
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: eqxx before, and I'm like, oh shit, this thing. This
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: was announced actually last CS, but they didn't have it there, right,
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: it was just a because they didn't ever stand it
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: was just announced and so to bring that thing in
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: and made it was a beautiful stand, you know, mirrors
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: and fucking fancy ship. It looked cool. It was it
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: was your Instagram for the day because it looked amazing
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: to get pictures there. So that's what you want, is
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: you want people equ x X is what we're looking
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: for some help on the Google. The people were two
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: x's well English, it is no, It's like it looked
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: unbelievable on the show. For people were looking at that thing.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: This is sick. And they've got two of them right,
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: one of them is a static show car.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: And the other one is drivable.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: They said a world record in the drivable one. I
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: actually didn't notice this year as well. They had a
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: lot of your supercar blondie style influences. My fraind Yeah,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: she'd been going to a few of those previously, but
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: now it was an explosion of influences that they were
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: really trying to hype up the year.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Well, and I'll tell you right now, they they wanted more.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: So what they had planned was there's a private racetrack
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: at a I don't know resort or something about an
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: hour out of town, and they had planned to do
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: a drive day for two days before the show opened,
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: but they couldn't get battery. The battery was stuck in
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: customs or something, so it was all canceled. It was
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: on the Wednesday of the show. I was Mitch driving
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: like six I was meant to drive the fucking thing
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: at six am, and they rang the night before game.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: We just didn't get clearance on the battery. So in
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: the end they because there's two of them, one of
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: them on the show floor, the other one they just
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: drove from a hotel across the road. They took you
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: on a run around the run around the strip. And
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Have you seen it not in person, but it looks
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: bloody amazing pictures. A look at the butt of it,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: though it's all ero. That's an aston Martin though EVC Yeah,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: got that sort of wow.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: That is the most insulting thing you could ever say
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: to a Mercedes is.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: Good you nerd.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: As soon as the bloody phone goes.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: All I've got another radio interview, so we're going to
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: have to another.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Get inside that and the infotainment, because you think a
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: concept car is going to be just ship right, this
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: thing has this, you know, Mercedes has that one screen,
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: one screen, separate screen. This is one legit screen and
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: as you swipe it the whole thing it's made, it's
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: more beautiful and an operating system than Apple and Apple
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: do good.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Though I do wonder because the idea of it sounds great,
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: and when I actually tested the hyperscreen in that EQ
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: S s U V, it can be laggy. And I
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: wonder whether these concept cars they just throw like a process, large,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: process larger, and then the production car comes out like
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: the Ford Ranger. That infotainment system is so laggy. If
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: you catch napping and they just don't have enough grunt.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: I've never seen a screen like it was the most
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: I said to the bloke, I'm sorry you're going to
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: talk about this car is beautiful and everything, but that
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: screen is fucking amazing.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that looks cool.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: This thing is measuring the wind. They measure the wind
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: impact into the front of the car so that they.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Can from you the wind from It's just like it
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't real I have a four and twenty, I reckon
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I can get that up to one hundred, one hundred.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: And ten real time coalfisions of drag calculated. When you
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: put the diffuser out, it shows up and the changes man.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Over a fucking screen.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, if there wasn't a drive there or a rub
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: one out, mate, it was unbelievable.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: It probably has a button for that. Tiler'll just jerke
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: you off.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Can you explain to listeners One of the criticisms we
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: often get when we go to a car launch overseas
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: is that manufacturers are in our pockets and I'm putting
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: a video together at the moment to explain how the
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: industry works and how we earn money and all that
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: sort of stuff.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Fuck let me, Yeah, this is going to be an
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: expose a definate right it is.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: The problem is people.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: Excerning millions and he's going to put out a fucking
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: video about that.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: The problem is people are people who aren't in the
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: industry don't understand that when events like this go on,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: they want all of the media to come there to
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: report on this and instead of Samsung going to five
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: hundred countries around the world with the same stuff, it
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: just wouldn't work. So is it the same in the
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: tech industry where this sort of event is funded by
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: a brand and then you're expected to.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: So to be clear, see US is very different from
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: I got invited to see us by Intel in twenty twelve,
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: this thing's amazing, And then in October of twenty twenty twelve,
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: for the next year, I'm thinking, who's invited me?
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Not inviotyed me.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: I was really doing not much back then, so I
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: was like kind of coming up and I'm like, I
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: want to go. I gotta go. So I just rang
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: a couple of companies and said, can you sponsor me
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: and just ask for a couple of grand to pay
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: for my air fits And ever since then I've just
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: done that. So even now I take four people because
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: I just I don't want to be beholden. When I
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: say beholden, I don't mean what we say. I don't
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: give No one ever tells me what to say. I
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: don't want to have to go to a fucking dinner.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: I don't want so see percent I get like sponsors
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: like so this year Samsung, LG, High Sense, TCL, BMW
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: all come in. They pay a bit of money funds
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: all my airfare is accommodation and everything.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: So we're good.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: There is a light thing where you have to obviously
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: cover their gear, right.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: What I the clear documentation is you're what you're paying
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: for is me. We will definitely cover your event. We
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: will definitely attend your booth. We will definitely give you
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: editorial coverage full stop. Doesn't say it's going to be
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: positive and negative. It's just we're gonna cover you.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, Yeah, that's it.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Three things. That's it. Nothing else. If you've got a
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: dinner on it works beautiful. Next week Samsung's holding it.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: A sipulated dinner.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: No, I don't want to go to dinners. I fucking
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: hate going to gennis It's the worst thing in the
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: world because I've got to sit with people I have
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: who don't like me most of the time, and I
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: probably don't like them as well. So I hate seven
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: course three people we talked about before we start a recording.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: I don't want to sit with them at dinner.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Now, if you listen to our bonus episode, we're going
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: to go through all those names.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: And I'd be happy to help you know what you're
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: talking about. But so because I've been beaten up on
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Media watch about it too. In fact, last August I
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: got on Meetia Watch Good Times, Happy Days, Paul Barry
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: got you on Media or whatever?
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: The fucking host, Yes, the one who talks like he's
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: from the nineteen tieties, and Trevor Long was called rubbing
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: one out and the Mercedes double it.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: I'm in New York City, I'm on the Today Show
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: Sky and he's a bunch of places and on my
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: website everwhere talking about a new folding phone. Right here
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: it is, and they go, you didn't disclose that Samsung
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: sent you there, And I just write, who the fuck
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: did you think sent me here?
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly like am I going to dip into my
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: own pod to New York? That's like, are you fucking
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: kidding me?
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Honestly, that's what people would think though.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: But that's the problem. Idiots. They're like, they assume that
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: that's how it works. And it's like, we could not
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: employ thirty people full time if you.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Were then paying for trips around the.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: World and these things for us. A car launch overseas,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: we might be only there for a day. You're expected
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: to land and drive a car immediately. If I'm sitting
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: in economy with my knees around my ears, I'm not
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: going to be able to sit there and do anything.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: So and when people always go on about business class,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, it's literally in the name business class.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I'm going full business and it allows me to drive
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: the car and get straight back home. I don't want
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: to spend a.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: Minute objective most see and again, I bet you this
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: is the same in murdering. There's a bunch of tech
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: journals who will extend their stay. They'll stay for extra
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: nights if they're in New York. I've got a family,
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: I've got three kids. My wife hates that I have
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: this job. She will kill me if she found out
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: I was fucking lazing around somewhere. Right, it's I leave
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: on Sunday. I get back on Friday morning because my
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: kid plays baseball on Saturday. If I'm not there, I
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: am divorced. So I could stay in San Francisco for
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: another week. Sweet and no dramas. But I'm in and
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: out as quick as I can. And where it's business class,
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: I take business class sometime because I like to bring
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: a camera with me to shoot some shit. Sometimes I
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: compromise and trying to fly premium. We fly economy whenever
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: I'm paying because I'm not an idiot. I'm saving money
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: wherever I can, but only for where it's an individual company, Apple, Samsung, whoever.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: If they've got an event, I ain't paying for myself
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: to get there.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's crazy to the peace would assume that
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: you love the brand so much that you would do that.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: It actually blows.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: Me away, you know. Then the obvious other thing, and
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: you kind of alluded to it in a joking, I think,
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: but you know, what do you pay to say about them? Look,
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not a negative guy. I don't do a lot
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: of negative gear. Right, I'm not gonna get on the
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: Today's I say this is a ship phone because you
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: know what, every car, every phone has an audience, even
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: a one hundred and ninety dollars smartphone, while we everyone
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: in this room would think it is shit. Ye for
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: a mum, single mum battling to get her seven year
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: seven kid a phone that's the fucking perfect phone, and.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: They want to feel good about it, It's right, you know.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: They want to know what its features are and what
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: it's going to do, and maybe a little bit of
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: what it can't, you know, And that's as simple as that.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: A car review and a phone review very similar in
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: the sense that every car is incremently better than the
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: than the last. And that's what it's all about today.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: And it's I think it's the same story in tech
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: genuinely today there is not a car out there that
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: I would say this is not It's exactly right.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: We're not going back to the eighties here. You know
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: where some cars were shipped. There's some cars were dangerous, right. Phones.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: You know, Samsung had some phones that exploded. They weren't
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: actually bad phones, they just had a real fuck up
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: with the technology, and you know what, they fixed it,
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: They recall it, and they've come back super strong. Why
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: would I bag Samsung because they had burning phones six
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: years ago that hasn't happened, since it's an unbelievable story.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: You know, people use that analogy to talk about Tesla
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: because Tesla don't fly people everywhere. Well they do, they
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: have taken some people around, but you know, well.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: They also people don't know this, but Tesla sack their
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: PR team globally except in Australia. They still retain people
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: who do PR on the side. They still run a
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: press fleet, which we don't pay for. There was no
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: way I would pay to review their cars ever, and
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: that press fleet comes with free charging. Like I think
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: that people, and it's especially those Tesla people who think
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: were on the take from big media. I'm like, fucking
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: not a chance. It's it is literally your review.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: But again, and we're digging a different rabbit hole. But
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't think I've ever had a Tesla
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: for more than three days, yep, you know, because that's
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: the way they roll. I'm like, you know, it'd be
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: a whole lot better for me if I could have
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: a car for a week or two or do a
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: long term.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Those problem is you'd end up with a negative ish
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: story like I have because.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: You because you'd actually just cover the ship, you know,
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: so look, I don't care about it anymore. I don't
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: kill people say it's the same, mate, it's the same.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: When I'll do a segment on the Today Show where
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about mobile phone deals, I'll tell here's a
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: couple other than he's coging with this, and someone will
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: go on to it and go, fucking add for Cogan?
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Is it?
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: I'm like, if it is, who's pain?
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Like where's my cash? Like?
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Like? Where is my cash in this situation?
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: There's no benefit.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Sorry about that comment.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: I knew it was, but so many fake accounts.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Between me and your Barry, I swear it wasn't me.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: I'm dead set.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: Hey, Barry, if you're stuck with the show, I'm sending
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: you merch mats just because it was funny.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: It's funny, it was funny.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: You're a good man. Carve them up, mate, calm or
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: who's paying? It's paying to listen to this. I say
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: that to people all the time about whether it's my
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: website of podcasts. I don't.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: I try.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: I make a spelling mistake, which I make a lot of.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: They're right to me. I'll go whatever.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: I'll send you a refund.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll send you a full fucking refund, buy a
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: PayPal of nothing.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: See in case you've just joined. As we're talking Trevor's
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Zingers on The Driver's Show, two things before you go,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: what is what's the most impressive tech that you reckon
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: is coming out there? Doesn't correlate it or.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Not outside of things we talked about because they were
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: very very cool, the benw thing specifically, Yeah, I did
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: see some glasses from TCL which look just like they
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: actually look like your glasses.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: There they are the TCL glasses.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not, and they project in front of your vision.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: Now that's all cool, like think of Google glass from
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: twenty twelve. But they actually demonstrate that there's a woman's
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: that's not me wearing them, but it's a different set.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: A few images down there's actually strolls just right, but
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: it's not those ones. These are different ones.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: A guy, Yeah, oh my god, put on the glasses
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: that you were in.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Put them on. Put them on?
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: Why anyway? Hello welcome? No, so this woman so lovely
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: lady from TCL speaking Mandarin or Cantons, I don't know,
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: but I tapped aside went into this menu that said
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: translation tapped it loud, crowded into a hall of exhibitors,
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: and this woman's speaking to me and Mandarin and it's
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: fucking appearing in English in front of me with a
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: three second delay. I'm telling you it was.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: That's cool.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Mind blowing. So what you those ones there are, they're
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: like you put them on and it's like one hundred
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: inch screen in front of you. So it's like a
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: good way to watch Netflix if you're lying in bed,
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: you just get one hundred inch.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: So this had some sort of phone connectivity.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: This was this was it was built in or built in.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: That's cool, very very cool.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: So that that shit's cool. And I think that you'll
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: see a lot more foldable phones issue. I think Google
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: will come out with a fireable phone.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: Do you think about foldable phones? Because I get the thing,
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: but I just don't. I don't know what purpose like.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: And I also think this is the dumbest shit I've
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: ever seen.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: Camera barba ship Oh yeah, apple thumber bumps are annoying
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: and yeah, foling phone. So I don't like the open
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: up ones that open up like a book. They're too
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: big and they're just huge in your pocket. I like
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: the flip if I could flip this shut and put
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: it in my pocket right now.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: I think the flip's a great idea. Yeah, I mean
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: it's good that they've made a comeback screen protection.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Like it's in your pocket, and it's particular the thickness
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: of a typical iPhone that you then follow.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: The current the current Samsung flip is close to double
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: but it doesn't feel like that in your pocket. Plus
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: you can throw it in your bag with less concern
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: because your screen. You're not worried about your screen anymore.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: So as good as the long ways are, they still scratch.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: If I have set of keys in there, it's still
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: scratch me.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: You're mad not having a screen protector on that thing.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: This is the thing my last phone.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Also, I was with you when you took that case off.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: I had all moves of stuff on it, and I realized,
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: I'm paying twenty bucks a month if I drop it all.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: Just fuck. I'm not talking about how.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Much you pay, but this is the thing, this is.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: How loaded he is, but so much fucking money. You're
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: still paying two hundred dollars a month for your mobile
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: phone fucking plan.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I stopped that. That was a scam because.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: They it was a solid argument and had.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: At one point was it a Telstra thing? Were you
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: in Telstra at the time.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Because we were traveling a lot and it came with
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: you Global roaming included Telstra. Then goes, oh, you we're
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: deleting that, but it's still one hundred and ninety five
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: dollars a month. I said, fuck that.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: If you want to go back on Telstra, go to
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: Boost me.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but that's the thing I ended up
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: on Telstra because why did I ended up on Telstra? Well?
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Boost didn't do roaming. There was some issue with roaming.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: They do now it's not that cheap. But now that
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: these have a duel sin, I've discovered im and all
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: this other stuff. You didn't just enable it overseas and
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: it works fine. But anyway, once it is out of contract,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: I'll get rid of it because it's Telstra just just
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: as bad as office in terms of customer service and stuff. There.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: We're going to wrap this up. Tell me something interesting,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Tell something, Saucy, something saucy, Tell me something saucy. You're
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: chatting up chicks in the metaverse. What are you doing?
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: No, mate?
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine I'm the most boring human you'll ever meet. Mate,
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: This is the most fun I've had for fucking a month.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: You're kidding, I believe that. I imagine like Trey picking
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: up chicks in the metaverse? How would that sound?
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Do you Yahoo?
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: You really scan my hard drift? Babe?
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: Do you it meant to be funny with him?
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: I'm never sure.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I think I just you think I just downloaded on
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: my belly button.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Does the radio station nowhere here? He just got a
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: key from upstairs.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: So because you're actually on the radio, ain't it?
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Do you accept three and a half inch floppies?
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: I prefer five and a quarter.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: By the way, that primo shot.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: No, it's not that one. It's your kiss one, oh,
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: which is really hard talk about me coming into the room.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Hello, Yeah, look, I've put on a few, haven't we
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: all put on a few that was actually taken, that
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: was taken before I was married and before the child. Yeah,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: with the child's two and a half for the court case,
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: so two and.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: A half, you've got like another six years before that
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: gets good.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: It's good, It's fine. I don't mind. But yeah, I'm
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: proper fat now.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: I wasn't concerned it your coke selection earlier that wasn't.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: How does Paul's wife let him do all the ship
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: that he gets money? Talks about it if my wife,
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: if my wife had that credit cards you can give
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: a where.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: He walks in the door and it's like a bas
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: lumin movie. There's confetti and he just like where those
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: couples makes it ray dancing on a pile.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: How much money did you? I'm thinking, just more simple.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: Have you seen the TikTok where the guy's got like
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: a dart and he bursts a balloon and that it
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: just just gell and ship all over this woman every
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: time she walks in the house.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: What do you want?
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking, Paul's just just shooting money. It's just braining
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: money as she walks in the door.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: My wife listens to this, wait to see what she thinks.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: She really she said to me, Gord, he's really funny.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, he's jokes to me.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're not you're not picking up chicks in
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: the metaverse.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: You're traveled at home?
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Yes? What else? What else do we need to know?
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: You need to know that I have a radio interview
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: that can I take TV probably like ten.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: Minutes who's that rating nice? Someone else there?
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Brook Courts the brook Court brook is nice at that
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: time and not no she Brooks's yeah, she's on the No,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: she's just used to do.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: A TV so that we were involved in as well,
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: which was mentioned earlier.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Are you guys giving each other like?
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: Look she is lovely? Yeah, she's very just had a again,
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: second baby. This mate married not dead.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Wow, Tram is going to get in so much trouble.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: I'm refreshingly surprised at trev Well, yeah, you've surprised him.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: I'm refreshing refreshingly surprised, just like you can pull this
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: ship together.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: Well, there you go.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: I'm happy that I don't need to be.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Don't expect your name on the poster anytime soon, because
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: one we couldn't fit.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Also, there'd be legal issues again.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: God, can you imagine if we send Fairfax our new
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: new promotion? In fact, you know what Trevor Long hangs
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: out on The Driver's Show, I'm going to send that
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: to it.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: I wake up with the Driver's Show.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Do you know what we should do for Primo for this.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: Hang on stop? Just for the record, before I agreed
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: to this, I didn't know about all that shit?
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: Neither did we finally and do you know what.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Anyway, Look, I'm actually going to hold back. I am
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: going to hold back. I am I am surprised. Did
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: you rock up? Did I hear this right? Did you
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: rock up to a an Elton John show and show
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: your ass?
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: What was that?
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: Dribbling and loose the skin is?
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: I thought it was working.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a bulldog getting chogked by a
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: yo yo stream.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: Can I just say I that Molly a while ago.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: He's a really nice guy and I just feel very
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: sad for the situation.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, me too.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Way to bring the episode down.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah we should go back to fighting in a park
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: with our shirts off.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Jesus listen. Just the final thing I'll say is listeners
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: think there was some fucking feud going on. I don't
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: even know what was going on.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: What are you talking about, Michael Clark about I'm talking
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: about you.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: It was Carl Stephan and Trevorlong was there as well.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: He rooted the.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Great publicity definitely did. And it was over dinner. It
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  Speaker 1: was between main courses.
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  Speaker 3: I think that might have gone too far.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Is the dinner?
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: Just for the edit, there is a lot of editing required.
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  Speaker 1: No, there is very much not. I'm looking over at
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  Speaker 1: our social media guy. This fucking goes on YouTube as
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: it happens, all right, thank it on YouTube? Yes? And
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: you porn you know?
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: Can I just say this is the kind of content
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: the reason I am happy to come because this is
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: the kind of content the world needs. Not boring fucking
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: sitting around reading through ship it's boring. Have you listened
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: to other podcasts?
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: They're boring.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: I listened to one of yours ones. I agree.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. I've moved on from that. But no,
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  Speaker 3: I think I think it's good what you're doing. Keep
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  Speaker 3: it up, thanks man, I'll be here when you're actually writing.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: Well, we are writing well. We're the biggest automotive podcast
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: in Australia.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: Did you not know that we're about to do a
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  Speaker 2: go fundme for our next legal challenge.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to use that. I'm going to use that
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  Speaker 1: as our promo photo.
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  Speaker 3: I've got a better one from CS No, no, no, no,
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: You've got just just last thing before we get because's
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  Speaker 3: going to just search dice in Zone Dyson like the
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  Speaker 3: fan company, dice in Zone just right e f TM. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I sure, am for Mary Champ. That's me there have
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: a look at that. If that's not a promo photo,
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: know what is?
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: I prefer the son? Are you? What are you doing there?
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Like what? It's like an oculus, but you're eating a chicks.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: Headphones? It's headphones and there's no ass headphones that purify
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  Speaker 3: the air.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Are they genuinely serious?
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: It was announced on April the first last year. I
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: thought it was so stupid, and I tell you it
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: wasn't It's real and I listened to them. They great headphones.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't fucking understand why you would want them
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: unless you lived in the New York subway.
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  Speaker 1: Around the expo, like your doctor to doc, I was
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: born of it. That's from Batman. You know I was
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  Speaker 1: born of it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: It's a bang from Batman. From Batman?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: Does your wife think you're funny?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: I was born? I think I think I talk on
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: behalf of everyone and you're making is uncomfortable. Can you
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: please leave?
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: All right? Thank you Trevor for action a pleasure.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Thank you for coming in, Baddy than before we go,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: we got to read emails.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, and also if you do want to send us
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: an email for us to read out on the show.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Contact at the Drivers Show dot com today you not
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: just something else. It's the Driver's Show.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: The Drivershow dot com dot you. That's the only website
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: we've got, so always using the driver Show dot com
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: dot you, the Drivershow dot com dot you on Instagram too.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: You can dm us. Is that what they say? I
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: don't know you're a child? Is that what they say?
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: So let's run through and also, please leave us a
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: rating whichever platform you listen to this on. Please. I
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: know that you don't think it means much, but please
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: just go in there and just write something nice and
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: leave a five star rating or a thumbs up or whatever.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: It'll help us get promoted. So first email so from
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Neil and he wrote, Hi, guys, just wanted to pass
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: on that this is a great podcast. Paul is always
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: knowledgeable and that was it on all things cars, and
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Gordy is just a clown. Hey. I really want to
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: say something bad about Gordy so he can pay out
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: on me every episode like Daniel, But I can't.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: What did he just call me?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: He said, can't? Did he?
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: Yes? Okay? He then wrote, even my wife enjoyed listening
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: to a few episodes on a re road trip. No surprise,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: Paul's a hit with the mums. I'm only human.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: That's so good.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: You are the Center's picks Neil, and he wrote to
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: keep up the podcast. It's a great entertaining addition to
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: my feed. As Gordy would say, fuck you, Daniel gold Bust. Yeah,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: he had a serious question though, He wrote as an aside,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: I have a twenty twenty two Kisserato GT. What are
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: your opinions on this? I personally love the car, although
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: I would love a Stinger. I'm just not on Gordy
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: money to afford one.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I reckon the Kisarato GT is
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: a great car. I think it's good. It's a furry,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: fiery little car.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: It's good.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Well you've driven that. How does it compet to your Stinger?
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Oh it doesn't.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: But like, what similarities could you draw? Because I thought
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: we actually have a YouTube review going live of the
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: Serato GT. And for the amount of money you pay
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: for that, it was one of the most enjoyable cars
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: I've driven around the proving ground. It was so fast
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: and so fun. Didn't love the ride, didn't love the
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: tyn Or it was a bit excessive. Stinger, on the
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: other hand, is a bit more of a GT cruiser, right, Yeah, comfortable, Yeah.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: It's a proper GT car. I think the Serrato is.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: I just think it's great. It's bang for your Bucket's brilliant.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: It is a front wheel drive, yep, so there's that
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: which is a bit but I think it's great. I
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: think it's got everything if you can. For me, it
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: just felt a bit small and cramped. I wouldn't have
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: it as a family car, but I think everything is there.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: It's well appointed, the tech is excellent. It looks really
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: good from the front at least anyway. I don't know.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Paul always thinks the rides a bit stiff, but Paul
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: has a bad case of hemorrhoids.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: And there is a cream that I'm using for that.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: There is, can I say, actually as well with Serato GT,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: they just move the cel Toss with a similar engine
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: to this to a torque converter. Serato GT is currently
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: a Jewel clutch and I found the torqu converter excellent
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: in the celt Toss. The only thing I didn't really
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: like about that drive train in the Serato was low
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: speed with jewel clutch. I'd love to see if they
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: changed to a talk converter as well. It would really
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: be quite a sort and if they had an adaptive damping,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: they would actually have what I would deem a very
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: warm hatch. So I think it is on the warmer
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: side of warm, on the hotter side of warm.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: What does that mean?
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: Who knows anyway?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Anyway? Yeah, great car, Thank you for their email.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: Love it. Here's another good one, this one quick thing.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: If he does want a bay Stinger, I think he
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: can buy mine because it's currently for I think you
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: can also pick up a really reasonable one with good
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: K's for about fifty grand. At the moment, they are
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: discontinuing them, and I wonder if that will up the price.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think I think they'll I think they'll go
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: all right, Yeah.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: I think so as well. Email from Michael titled Dealer
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Delivery Fee. Now this was a good email because he
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: had a really good question in here, and and it
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: was one I had to do a bit of research on.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: So I wrote, Hi, Paul and Gordy, glad you're back.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: Was wondering why you stopped podcasting given the show was
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: so entertaining and moderately informative. So he wrote, Paul, you
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: mentioned in the December show that if you pay more
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: than two thousand dollars dellary delivery, you're being ripped off.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: I guess I'm being ripped off good, because I'm paying
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: thirty five hundred for my Genesis GV seventy. No, it's
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: not the three point five twin Turbo. Given that Genesis
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: don't have dealerships and I have to deal directly with
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: the manufacturer, I guess this is a sneaky way for
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: Young Day of increasing their vehicle margins and still appearing
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: to offer good value pricing, as reviewers only tend to
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: report on the price before on roads. I'll be interested
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: to see what special fanfare I receive when I collect
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: my GV seventy in mid jan So if you are
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: listening to this, give us a yell and let us
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: know how it went for the three point five k
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: dealer delivery. But I suspect it will be underwhelming given
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: the customer service so far. Really enjoy the podcast. It
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: would be great if you could increase the frequency to
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: weekly episodes. I've also unsubscribed from another podcast that I
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: won't mention, but you can use your imagination. Now, I
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: should clarify that when I was talking about Dilly delivery
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: in the December show, that was strictly in relation to
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: for dealar delivery. It wasn't other brands. Other brands will
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: charge much more and in the cases in the case
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: of Genesis, no, you're not getting ripped off. I had
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: a look at the Genesis website and I think their
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: deal of delivery was around three grand, so they probably
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: are rating a little bit of mayo to that, just
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: a tiny bit. But you're not getting ripped off in
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: the grand scheme of things.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: They might be able to negotiate that day.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Right, Well, I just think it's a bit expensive, to
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: be honest, because thirty five hundred they really.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: Don't they deliver this car like to the.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, that's my other question as well. Are you
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: getting a home delivery or are you picking it up
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: from one of their dealers or a yun day dealer
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: even do let us know? But yeah, in short, you're
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: not getting totally ripped off. It is just a little expensive.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: Let us know how the delivery went and whether you
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: thought there was value in that. There might be some
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: process behind the scenes. That is much bigger than a.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Forward perhaps and generally also too, because it's a genesis
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: it you're not getting you're not taking delivery of the
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: young day they like they could have, as you said,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: different processes on getting this car ready for delivery.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but let's let's see, because that's a lot of money.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: That's what five percent of the car's price potentially or
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: even slightly less than that. There's a shitload of money.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: So yeah, get in touch with us, Michael, if you
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: hear this and we're still listening, please and let us
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: know how it all went, because we're very keen to
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: find out.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, five stars. Leave a nice comment. We'll see you
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: next week. God, it's hot in here.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: It is. What the hell is It's like you've got
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: an interrogation light on or something. I have a bickroom
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: podcast
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: So I do not want to see you're downward dog
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: like that would just be Oh God,