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305: Sister Wives Recap - One on One Part 1 (S20 E16) · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: Now I have to ask you, as I do I
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  Speaker 1: try to before every recap, Hendy, do you have any
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  Speaker 1: takeaways after you watch that shit show?
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  Speaker 2: I just love how Cody was saying at the very
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  Speaker 2: beginning of the episode.
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  Speaker 3: Like, God, these tail alls are just a bunch of antagonistic,
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  Speaker 3: backstabbing bullshit, And I just really hope that we can remember,
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  Speaker 3: like the forgiveness that we've started. I just really want
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  Speaker 3: to cultivate that, make sure that it remains that way.
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  Speaker 2: Like you're the cause of it.
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  Speaker 1: As soon as you sit down in the seat, you
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  Speaker 1: are aggressive.
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  Speaker 2: I mean. And in the previous for the next tell
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  Speaker 2: alls where he starts crashing out about the affair and everything,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, dude.
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  Speaker 1: There's one person bringing the agro energy cody, and it's you.
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  Speaker 1: It's you. I have a takeaways, Well, I have three takeaways. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: try and whittle it down first and foremost, and please
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  Speaker 1: don't come for me, and let us all accept the
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  Speaker 1: idea of the concept that we can have differing opinions
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  Speaker 1: but still live peacefully in a dumpster together. Sure, so
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  Speaker 1: Janelle totally did that shit. You can't tell me Janelle
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  Speaker 1: didn't do that shit. Now I am an expert after
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  Speaker 1: all these years some planet Earth wow with body language
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  Speaker 1: and people, many years too, with body language and people.
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  Speaker 1: And I was watching her when she was answering her
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  Speaker 1: shifty little eyes, the way that she stammered, the way
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  Speaker 1: that she kind of contextualized things when she's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: my lawyer told me, like, see what you can do
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  Speaker 1: to get the deal done, and so yeah, I told
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  Speaker 1: Cody that, meaning she did initiate the conversation. She is
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  Speaker 1: the one who brought it up with Cody and said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: my lawyer is advising this, and so maybe is there
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  Speaker 1: something we can do to get this deal done. I
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  Speaker 1: one hundred believe that Janelle was a shady bitch to marry.
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  Speaker 1: Now was it justified?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe?
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, if what you're telling me is the
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  Speaker 1: reason Mary wasn't moving in the negotiations was because they
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  Speaker 1: put an NDA in front of her and she was like,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely not, I'm going to kill this deal because I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to sign that. Then I have nothing but
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  Speaker 1: respect for Mary, and Janelle should have been her ally
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  Speaker 1: in that moment.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, good point.
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  Speaker 1: I just think it was I just think I do
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  Speaker 1: think it was Janelle.
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  Speaker 2: I believe Cody, you believe that it was an actual
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  Speaker 2: backdoor deal, like a deal that they were really trying
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  Speaker 2: to put through.
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  Speaker 1: Well, as I said before, I don't think they ever
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  Speaker 1: developed it. It's not like they walk through the process.
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  Speaker 1: I do believe that Janelle probably proposed it. I think
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  Speaker 1: Cody is just diabolical enough to entertain it and think
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  Speaker 1: it over and maybe they talked about it a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: but then at the end of the day, Janelle was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, but I would prefer if we could
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  Speaker 1: work this out amicably. But I think she was definitely
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  Speaker 1: thinking about it. That's my takeaway. Second takeaway, Robin's looking rough, girl,
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  Speaker 1: Robin's looking rough. And that's the thing about demons. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm also like a demonologist, like when you allow demons
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  Speaker 1: to inhabit your body, huh. I mean you can try
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  Speaker 1: to hide it from the rest of us, but like
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  Speaker 1: we can see with our eyes. Yeah, it starts coming
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  Speaker 1: out of the pores, and you start looking like a demon.
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  Speaker 1: There was just some dark energy, yeah from her Dowdy,
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  Speaker 1: like just darker in the face, just hard or more
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  Speaker 1: angry in the face. I'm telling you that demon, I
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  Speaker 1: mean that legion.
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  Speaker 2: She's looking coming out so rough man. Like I said
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  Speaker 2: last week, she's the youngest one here and she looks horrible.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. And I'm like literally, I'm literally like focusing on
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  Speaker 1: the energy of it. But like I'm just saying, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, whoa, that's what I'm saying too. And I
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  Speaker 1: think there were some people on Facebook. I know I
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  Speaker 1: sent you. I'll put it up right here, and like
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  Speaker 1: these boomer ladies on Facebook and I'm on Facebook, so
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  Speaker 1: I'm one of them boomer ladies. But like just coming
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  Speaker 1: for Robinson, ye honey, and how she dresses and her fascione.
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  Speaker 2: Well, because it's terrible, but yes it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's not a good look.
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  Speaker 2: For it's terrible, but I love that for us.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of love it as well. And my third
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  Speaker 1: take was that, oh my god, Mary's eyes are so gorgeos.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a nice.
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  Speaker 1: Smaller that's currulyan blue, the Caribbean blue of it. Oh god,
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  Speaker 1: just gorgeous eyes.
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  Speaker 2: It helps to be free from Cody and Robin. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: then you get the life back in you.
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  Speaker 1: That is exactly right. Yeah. So those are my thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: They're not worth much, but I thought I would offer
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  Speaker 1: them now without further ado, Let's get into this week's recap.
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  Speaker 1: Have Sister Wife Season twenty, episode sixteen, one on one,
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  Speaker 1: Part one, Take it Away.
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  Speaker 2: Beach Well. We start off the episode with clips from
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  Speaker 2: everybody around the world heading to the Freakin Tell Nothing.
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  Speaker 2: We start off with Cody and Robin at their McMansion.
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  Speaker 2: They're packing up their car with all of these clothes,
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  Speaker 2: all these suitcases and stuff. I'm like, you're literally going
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  Speaker 2: to Scottsdale. It's not that fucking far from staff, but
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  Speaker 2: you got to pack up all of your clothing, your
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  Speaker 2: entire closet, basically, especially Cody, who's got to have all
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  Speaker 2: these outfit changes for some reason, because not Robin, No,
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  Speaker 2: certainly not with her little cardigans and stuff. But this
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  Speaker 2: is where Cody talks about how he hates these tell
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  Speaker 2: alls because it's just a bunch of chicken shit chit chat,
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  Speaker 2: and a bunch of backstab in and a bunch of antagonism.
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  Speaker 2: Antagonism is that a word? Yes, Okay, he just goes
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  Speaker 2: on this stupid rant about how we just you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to forgive everybody and they're trying to forgive me,
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  Speaker 2: and I want to make sure we cultivate that, we
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  Speaker 2: don't ruin that and just want everything to be good.
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  Speaker 2: I want everybody to be happy. Yeah, But I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: then sit in the same room together, m how about that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, to be a decent person and try not to
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  Speaker 1: insult people and don't be evil and cruel and narc Well.
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  Speaker 2: And if like you're so worried about everybody talking shit
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  Speaker 2: behind your back then just I don't know, we'll talk
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  Speaker 2: to each other.
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  Speaker 1: Or be the change you seek in the world. Ye, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's what you want and be that? And who said that?
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  Speaker 1: Was it last week or the week?
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  Speaker 2: Was it?
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  Speaker 1: Mary? She's like, I just want you to be the
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  Speaker 1: man that you say that you are, Like you keep
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  Speaker 1: talking about how strong you are and fair you are
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  Speaker 1: and patriarchal you are and benevolent you are. Then be that, dude, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because we're not seeing that dude.
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  Speaker 2: No, not at all. But it's just for performance and
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  Speaker 2: he just wants to pretend like, yeah, he's the good
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  Speaker 2: guy here and all these women are just coming for
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  Speaker 2: him because they hate him or something. Then we go
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  Speaker 2: over to Mary and Jen, and Jen's gonna come over
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  Speaker 2: to the tell Alls, which I do kind of appreciate. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: I think Jen did pretty well and to tell all today.
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  Speaker 2: And Jen was telling Mary that she has to be
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  Speaker 2: careful with what she says because Mary doesn't want people's
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  Speaker 2: feelings to be hurt. And now Mary says, well, until
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  Speaker 2: this week, I did care about people's feelings. But now
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  Speaker 2: whatever is kind of the implay here. So maybe we'll
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  Speaker 2: get more of Jen talking for Mary in the one
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  Speaker 2: alle like.
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  Speaker 1: Can't we just sidebar on that? Because I love Jen? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I do think we need a representative for the
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  Speaker 1: audience to say kind of what we're thinking and what
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  Speaker 1: we see, but like, why can't Mary say these things
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  Speaker 1: that she's relying upon Jen to say? It feels just
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  Speaker 1: kind of weak. It feels like you need somebody else
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  Speaker 1: to be your representative. And I really would love to
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  Speaker 1: see that energy from you, and we do get some
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  Speaker 1: of that, and Mary is speaking up for herself, but like, really,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's why Jen is there, and Mary, you
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  Speaker 1: don't need Jen. You should be saying all of this
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  Speaker 1: stuff yourself. But it's like you're scared to for some reason.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't understand it. And like she'll say little
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  Speaker 2: things like when we get to the NDA conversation later
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  Speaker 2: in this which was pretty fucking juicy, like Mary will
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  Speaker 2: talk a little bit about it. But then there was
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  Speaker 2: another scene where she said something to the effect of like, well,
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  Speaker 2: I can't show or say my reaction on nash TV.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like why, Suki said why And she's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: because you'll just bleep it out anyway, then well give
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  Speaker 1: us a version without a ton of profanity and tell
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: us how you feel. That's right, incredibly unfair thing that
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  Speaker 1: they said that they were going to dispense the largess
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  Speaker 1: of the sale of the property based on his and
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  Speaker 1: her grace, Like you don't deserve anything legally, like that
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  Speaker 1: is what they said. Like have a response to that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, But Jen has to have the response for her,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what's really annoying. But I do still appreciate
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  Speaker 2: Jen being there, yes, And I do appreciate Jen's friendship
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  Speaker 2: to Mary because it's very obvious that Jen has always
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  Speaker 2: been a real one and been really supportive to Mary.
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  Speaker 2: So I do really appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: Are we getting clout goblin a little bit? Though? Are
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  Speaker 1: we getting I love the light of television from Jen
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  Speaker 1: a little bit?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think so. Okay, I think
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  Speaker 2: she's pretty genuine, all right, But I mean she does
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  Speaker 2: want to do the podcast with Mary, and she is
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  Speaker 2: on Fridays with Friends with Mary, so maybe she's making
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  Speaker 2: some moneybe little bit.
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  Speaker 1: But also, frankly, we need her because Mary is not
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  Speaker 1: using her big girl words exactly to describe what we
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  Speaker 1: are seeing with our very own eyes exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So if we have to have a cloud Goblin to
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  Speaker 2: do that, fine, so be it. And then we go
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  Speaker 2: over to Christine and David, who are pretending that they're
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  Speaker 2: going to drive down to Arizona in.
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  Speaker 1: His side by side?
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  Speaker 2: Is that what it's called.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's what they called it, a side by side.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, why are.
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  Speaker 1: We wants to show us his toys. It's kind of cute.
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  Speaker 1: He's kind of fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do like him. He talks about how he
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  Speaker 2: wants to make sure he talks more on the tell
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  Speaker 2: Alls this time, because Christine doesn't let him talk, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, yikes, So we'll see how that goes.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen some criticism of him from saying that, like
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  Speaker 1: trying to put himself out there and speak more for
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  Speaker 1: himself but also for her, and I'm just like, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't read that at all. Oh, I thought he was
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  Speaker 1: making a joke. And I think it's fair enough because
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  Speaker 1: Christine does stomp all over him when he's talking, and
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  Speaker 1: he should have the space to tell us how he feels.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I want him to be like Jen and
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  Speaker 2: say some shit about Cody, to be savage. I want
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  Speaker 2: that really bad. We need that in these tell nothings.
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  Speaker 2: And then we go over back to Mary and Jen,
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  Speaker 2: and this is where Mary tells Jen that Cody, I
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  Speaker 2: guess tried to apologize to her again after his bullshit
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  Speaker 2: park fake apology. I guess he called Mary and said,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry for trying to make a backdoor deal with
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  Speaker 2: Janelle about Coyote Pass. And this is where Jen says,
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  Speaker 2: if he was really sorry about that, but he was
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  Speaker 2: trying to make a backdoor deal, Like, what is the
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  Speaker 2: motivation for him calling you about that? It makes it
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  Speaker 2: seem like he's trying to throw Janelle under the bus.
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  Speaker 2: And I kind of agree, but then when we get
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  Speaker 2: to the conversation about the back door deal, it does
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  Speaker 2: kind of feel like Janelle was doing some shit.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I think that Cody orchestrated throwing Janelle under the bus.
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  Speaker 1: He made it a point to talk to his lay
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  Speaker 1: mass friend in Vegas about the back door deal. He
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  Speaker 1: mentioned it several times, so he's obviously trying to put
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  Speaker 1: it on Front Street. And I think the call was
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  Speaker 1: probably to apologize because she maybe just watched it and
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  Speaker 1: or she was about to hear about it, probably and
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: so he wanted to get ahead of it. And to
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  Speaker 1: that end, when do we think this was filmed, because
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: I was checking, like the trees around Mary and Jen
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: it's there, some people are in shorts, it's looking nice weather.
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  Speaker 1: So are we talking like September October?
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: It's probably going to be in the summer or something
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: or some hot month because David was talking about how
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: it's going to be too hot right and driving into
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: Scottsdale and his little car or whatever. So yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: must be in the summertime or like six months ago,
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  Speaker 2: maybe probably.
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  Speaker 1: When this was filmed. Okay, I was just wondering, does
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  Speaker 1: anybody know it's so drop into the comments or DMR
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  Speaker 1: girl on Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let us know. And then we have Janelle who's
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  Speaker 2: heading out to the tell alls and she's like, oh,
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: I don't really care, like I don't mind doing these.
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  Speaker 2: And then she goes on this little tirade about how
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: she thinks Cody's apology was genuine for where he was
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: at and she's like, yeah, like it was fine and
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: like whatever, and then she mentions the back door deal.
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  Speaker 2: She knows this, Cubbard, she knows it's coming. She's like,
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  Speaker 2: I heard Cody was talking about this, and all I
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  Speaker 2: can do is defend myself because I know what was said,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not responsible for anybody's perspectives on it, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, all right, interesting, yep, I thought so
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  Speaker 2: as well. Then we get to the actual tell alls
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  Speaker 2: and we start off with like a stupid little icebreaker
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  Speaker 2: from Suki where she asks everybody with their hudden tallet.
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  Speaker 1: I can poop on command, the first one I can
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  Speaker 1: think of it. I can street fight.
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  Speaker 2: Street fight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: I can say stupid shit on the internet. My special
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  Speaker 2: talent very good.
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  Speaker 1: I see all your fins. You're on a dog posted
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  Speaker 1: thirst drops, how dare you? I'm not saying okay every
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  Speaker 1: once in a while.
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  Speaker 2: But we start off with Cody's hidden talent, which is
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  Speaker 2: that he can walk on his hands. Nobody cares. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's great. Then we have Mary who says her hidden
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  Speaker 2: talent is juggling, and Sukie's like, like juggling items, and
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  Speaker 2: Mary's like, no, juggling multiple personalities that are not my own,
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  Speaker 2: and then she laughs really hard, like that was really funny,
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  Speaker 2: Like that was hella funny.
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  Speaker 1: Hella hilarious, and Suki's like, so, like, how many personalities
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  Speaker 1: are we currently juggling? And She's like kinda go five six,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: or seven and there's five of them, yeah, plus Suki
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: and jets right. I think she's talking about everybody in
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: attendance for this tell nothing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, Mary whatever. And then we have Janelle
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: saying that she can play the piano. But then we
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: have a confession tape afterwards. She's like, I tried to
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: sit down at the piano and I remember or I
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: can't remember anything, right, I can't.
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  Speaker 1: Even not even chopsticks. And so she was front and
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  Speaker 1: lion about piano totally.
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  Speaker 2: And then we have Robin who said her special talent
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  Speaker 2: was breaking. Oh my god, this was.
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  Speaker 1: One of the best moments. This was my last episode.
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  Speaker 1: I died, like, how could you? Was she saying that
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  Speaker 1: like with no irony? Like was she saying that with
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: some seriousness? Like yeah, I used to be a breakout.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I was a big girl.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Well, Sukie asked her, are you a big girl? And
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: she's like, what a big girl? Well, I mean like
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: I used to dance and stuff. I used to get
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: on the floor and like, you know, do some moves.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Sukie's like, are there any videos? And she's like, there
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: are not going to be any videos. Cut to the
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: video so cringey, honey, that was perfection. That was a
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: thing of beauty. Thank you production.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: I loved that. And I just couldn't believe that she
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: said that, like, my special talent is breakdancing, like as
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: if she's still currently doing that.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Was she being funny? I don't know, because I couldn't
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: tell by her hard ass face, like are you serious
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: right now?
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: I'm like, are you listening to recap?
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Because are you watching our podcast because we're putting it
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: up right now. Yeah, But I was just I didn't
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I didn't know if she was serious about it. But like,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: maybe Robin actually has a sense of humor about herself.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: I don't. She knows people tease her about this, and
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: so that's why she said it.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Can demons have senses of humor?
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I think?
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: So? Yeah, Oh my god, I just thought that was hilarious.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I thought it was great.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: And then we get to Christine's special talent, which is
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: singing like snow White, and I had to play this scene, honey,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: for your daughter, who hates when people sing poorly. She's like,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: and she was like, oh my god, turn that off
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: And it's not like one version of a Disney song.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: She gave us three versions of snow White singing, and
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: it's like, stop, It's on the same level as the
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: lap dance for David. It's making me uncomfy.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Well, have you seen that rewind episode where she sings
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: at Micheltie's wedding.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Where we haven't gotten there yet? Girls, I think I
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: remember it.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: It's just as bad. Why And like Christine, why can't
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: you say my special talent is cooking? You know how
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: to make mock pudding.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: What's not hidden? We know that about her. I guess
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: my hidden talent is I can't break it down with
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: this that I would have loved.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my hidden talent is fallatio talent. David seriously, but no,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: you can sing like snow White, Okay. And then we
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: get into the actual meat of the episode. We start
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: off with the coyote pass discussion, and this is like
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: when jen actually arrives and I think David probably comes
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: in at some point, but I don't. We don't see
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: much of him yet in this episode. We start off
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: with a clip of Janelle talking to Mary over skype
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: where she makes some little joke about Robin being the
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: shy pretty wife and they're talk talking about the Coyote
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Pass deal and what's happening with it, and Janelle's trying
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: to pretend to Mary like she didn't try to do
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: this backdoor deal, and she's trying to pretend like they're
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: on the same side. And I think this is also
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: where we get a clip of when they're actually at
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Coyote Pass, when the deal happens and gets accepted, and
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Cody and Robin completely misread the situation and think that
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: they're being bitches, And what did you think about this
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: whole thing? There was a lot in this discussion.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna have to refresh my memory, but
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I thought that I loved the moment where Jen was like, well,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: what they're not saying, though, is that they made Janelle
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: and Mary wait out at Coyote Pass for an entire hour,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: like an Ethan Plath move. Honey made him wait and
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: it was cold and the weather was terrible. So they're
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: not going to be rushing right out of their cars
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: to greet you and give you hugs because you guys
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: are assholes.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: YEP.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I thought that wonderful.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: That was really great. And then we have this discussion
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: about girl games because we have a clip of Cody saying,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: like Robin doesn't do girl games, and he was referencing
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: that at Coyote Pass because he was insinuating that Janelle
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: and Mary were playing some kind of girl game by
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: waiting in their cars with the heat on while they
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: waited over an hour for Cody and Robin and the
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: realtor to show up in the freezing cold. And then
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: we have like Suki asking each one of these adults,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: what are girl games? I know, so stupid, and that
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: was annoying to me.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I was annoyed as well. I wish somebody would have
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: just said it's a term misogynists use, or women who
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: center men all the time, like Robin. So they're gonna
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: say something like girl games, and they're going to try
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: and deflect away from the games that Cody actually plays,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: which are legion. He does it all the time. But
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: it's just a way to make you feel bad for
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: being a woman, Yeah, and having some opinions, and also
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: speaking out against Robin as the shy, pretty and submissive wife,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: which is something that Janelle says to Mary when they're
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: on that Zoom call. And Janelle laughs about it when
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: she's hit up about it, and it's not a big
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: deal Mary though, Like there's something about Mary that just
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: bothers me. She's like, oh, yeah, that was the girl game,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: and I don't really approve of that. I don't really
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: like that. I'm like, okay, well, but in the flashback, though,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: you were talking about how you know, you and Janelle
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: and Christine weren't the pretty wives like you were feeding
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: into it. It's not like Janelle was doing that in
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: a vacuum, right, And is this where we get into
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: the ex Wives Club or I mean it kind of
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: hops around.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: It does hop around, but yeah, that was where Mary said,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't really want to be a part
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: of the ex Wives Club, and Janelle and Christine have
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: their friendship going and have their little thing, and I
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: don't want any part of that. And I'm just like,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: why do you gotta be bitchy? Though?
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't understand that. It's kind of just mean.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: And I will say though, that Christine has gone out
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: of her way in her book in the last few
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: seasons to say that she never, ever, ever, ever wants
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: to get back together with Mary and they're never going
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: to be friends or never going to have anything, and
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: so this could be somewhat of a reaction to that,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: like probably fearing that over I don't know how many years,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: and also now in a book would hurt my feelings
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: if that were something that I was hoping for. But
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: it's clear now that Mary is giving up any hope
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: for solid relationships in this family, and I think that
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: she's also mad about it. I feel like it stings
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: for her. I feel like it's a rejection. I think
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Mary has felt so utterly rejected by all of these
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: people in this family, particularly Cody, for a variety of reasons.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: But it's just this theme now that she's carrying around
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: with her for over thirty years, and one of the
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: reactions to that could be anger, and I think we're
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: seeing some of that. But underneath that, I think is
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: just profound hurt and that makes me feel bad for her.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I totally get that. But do you think that she
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: had a part to play in that?
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Of course caused that partially? Yes, absolutely, And I think
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: that she's coming off sanctimonious, like she could play this
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: a little differently. She can say, like that really hurts me.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I did have some hope that maybe we could be
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: a family, or like we could be cordial, like we
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: could have maybe even a friendship, but it's obvious watching
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: back some of the things that people are saying that
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: that's not anything they're interested in, and now no longer
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: am I.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: It's just like unfortunate to me because you know, you
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: have so much in common now with Christine and Janelle,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: like you could have some kind of you don't have
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: to be best friends, but you could have some kind
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: of camaraderie knowing that you guys all left the same
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: narcissistic asshole and like, you guys all were victims of
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Cody's narcissistic abuse alleged and you could, I don't know,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: let some of that shit go. It kind of felt
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: to me like Mary was being snied to both Christine
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: in Janelle. Maybe it was because of Christine's book, and
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: maybe it was because of Janelle's back door deal with Cody,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: and maybe that's why we got a little bit of
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: that snipiness from her. But I'm like, why can't you
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: have that same energy then for Cody and Robin? Why
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: can't you talk about them and be snipy to them?
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Why do you need Jen to do that for you?
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: And let's not forget I feel like it's important, and
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I know that we've talked about it, certainly when we
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: covered Christine's book on Patreon, and I've mentioned it a
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: couple of times here. But like the story that Christine
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: tells about Mary embarrassing her, and I want to say,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: like twenty eighteen, so somewhat recently. I think it's around Luluoe.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: They were on some kind of cruise. Mary was invited,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: but Christine at the time was also selling Lularoe, so
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: she was invited. And the way Christine tells it, she
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: walks into the room on a cruise and she's just
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: like looking around the room seeing who's there. She does
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: not see Mary in the room. Mary, however, sees her,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: and so in this moment, Mary maybe takes that as
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: a slight like why didn't you come up to me
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: and say hello. Well, Christine was remiss, she did not
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: do that, but like later on approaches her, she thinks
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: everything's okay. According to Christine, Mary for the entire duration
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: of the cruise goes out of her way to talk
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: down to Christine, to body shame Christine, to make fun
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: of her in front of other people, and to be
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: generally a twat to Christine for no frickin' reason, And
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: so in my world that's pretty recent, like you say,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: and that for Christine probably shows Mary's true colors. And
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: you can see the edge. You can see kind of
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: that mean girl edge in Mary when she's sitting down
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: with Jen and just laughing and laughing and laughing, and like, oh,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: you're kind of laughing a little too hard. I think
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: you're trying to hurt people's feelings. I think you're kind
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: of mean. Yes, So, like there's a lot of things
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: that are true in this situation. I feel bad for Mary.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I think her be behavior is born of like actual
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: trauma totally.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, do better, yeah, like acknowledge that,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: do the shadow work, as they say, and go to
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: therapy and worthy up and figure that shit out instead
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: of just continuing to be mean. But it's so weird,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: like how Mary has this mean, bitchy energy, but then
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: she's best friends with Jen, so I'm like, wells Jen
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: mean and bitchy too.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know, she has a definite sarcastic streak at least.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: And well, you always want friends though that you can
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: kicky with, you can get down and dirty with, and
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: they have a good friendship. But I have no doubt
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: that Mary shit talks and trashes all kinds of people
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: with her friends.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: She's got to, right.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: I hope she does shit. Yeah.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: But then back to the tell. Also, we have this
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: discussion about Coyote Pass and the back door deal, and
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: this was very back and forth. It's very much a
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: he said, she said type of a thing. But basically
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Cody is putting it all on Jene Like Janelle was
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: the one that came to him and initiated the deal.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Cody was I guess, resistant to it, but then open
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: to it because he wasn't talking to Mary. And he
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: tries to shirk off a lot of the responsibility, like
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: it wasn't his idea, like he wasn't into it, like
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: it was all Janelle. He says some comments about Janelle,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: even though he's very careful to not really talk shit
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: about her, which is kind of interesting. He makes some
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: comments about how this was how it was in his
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: marriage with Janelle, that whatever she wanted she got because
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: she went up to him and was like, you need
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: to give this to me or else I guess which
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, I don't know how true that is.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Because Janelle got the short end of the stick a
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: lot of the time.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: But if we look at it from like a higher vantage,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: from the meta, we zoom out a little bit, we
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: can kind of see how maybe Janelle might have been
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: complicit and how the money moved in that family.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: And if it's true that Cody was collecting assets and
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: funneling sources out of the family account and other places,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: and Janelle was the one who was doing the bookkeeping,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: the records and the taxes, so she saw it. And
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: if we take what Christine said previously into consideration, which
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: was that whenever she needed something, she would just ask Cody.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: And that's what the wives did. I never knew about
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: the money. I didn't know how much we had, but
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: if I needed something, I asked for it. And so
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: if that's what Janelle also did, and maybe Cody gave
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: her some extra money, then what I'm saying is maybe
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Janelle was complicit. And when he starts talking about the
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: parcels of land, yeah, and how it was Janelle who said,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: we don't trust Mary. We don't want Mary's name on
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: a variety of these parcels because what is she going
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: to do with that kind of power. And then when
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Cody says, well, it was actually Janelle who called me
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: and suggested that we do some sort of backdoor deal,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Like I kind of feel I kind of feel like
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened. Now, I do I think Cody's
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: blowing it up. I think he's trying to cause division
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: between Janelle and Mary, but mostly he's trying to turn
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: people against Mary for whatever reason. But the core of
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: what he's saying I think has some veracity. That's just
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: my opinion. What do y'all think?
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Like, my opinion is that there isn't an official backdoor deal.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I don't think Janelle was intentionally wanting Cody to sell
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: it from underneath Mary, but I do think that based
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: off of talking through their lawyers, because Janelle does talk
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: about this. She says like, at a certain point in time,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Mary stopped communicating with them, like she was only communicating
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: through her lawyer, and so it was really difficult to
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: get anything done. And then Robin was the big fat
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: rock in the way that was also causing some delays,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: which we'll get to later about the NDAs, and so
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Janelle probably was frustrated and then was like I'm just
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: gonna go to Cody and ask him, like, can we
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: just fucking can we figure something out? Like I want
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: to work some things out. Maybe her lawyer did advice,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: he like, you should try and force the sale, get
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: this done so you can get your money, because it
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: sounds like Janelle was needing the money.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Well, Cody addresses this, He's like, well, we could sit
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: on the land for ten years and it can double
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: in price, but Janelle wants a clean break. Janelle needs
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: that money, money money right now. And as we know,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: like Janelle needs a house. Janelle is the one wife
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: who's left with like literally nothing, and so of course
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: she wants to take her two hundred and fifty thousand
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: dollars or whatever it was and build a house for
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: herself out in North Carolina. So I can understand her incentive,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: which therefore makes me believe all the more that she
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: was a part of that. I think she initiated the conversation.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I think Cody was maybe entertaining it. I do wonder
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: if Robin's like, we're not going to do that, but
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: let's not do that, and or if we're going to
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: do that, let's try to give Mary a chance to
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: get her fair share, but only if she jumps through
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: this NDA hoop. Like you know, maybe she had some
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: sort of machination that she was working through.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Probably she might have had something how.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Going to use this to my utmost benefit exactly.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: I feel like Janelle at the very least was just
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: wanting to get this shit done, and nobody was moving,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: nobody was talking to each other because Mary and Cody
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: hate each other, and Mary was talking through her lawyer,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: and she probably was dealing with the NDA stuff on
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: the back end that maybe Janelle was unaware of and
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: just thought like Mary was just sitting on her act.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: She knew it, because she says Robin is the one
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: who came in at the eleventh hour with the contract,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: so she knew about it.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Maybe she knows now, but like maybe when they were
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: talking about everything in the back door deal happened, she
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: didn't know what was happening behind the scenes.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I definitely think she did. I don't think her attorneys knew.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I think she was sick of it. I think she
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: did her very best with Mary to try and get
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: her to protect herself, to do the right thing, to
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: get an attorney. We all saw what Mary did with
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Janelle's outstretched hand at that point, thing. Yeah, and so
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I would I understand Janelle's motive to be like, okay,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: like bitch, I tried, but at this point, if now
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: you're gonna hold it up and this buyer, this whole
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: contract is going to expire, then I have to do
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: what I need to do in order to get my settlement.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: And like, in that regard, okay, fair.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Admit it, though, exactly tell the truth, just say it
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: with your full chest.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: But Janelle is so passive in that way and doesn't
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: really like she doesn't really want to be the bad
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: guy in this situation. Is like I just want my
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: fucking money, and I just want to be done with
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Coyote pass And you know, in that regard, like she
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: got it, and she got what she wanted and now
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: everything's done. And so I think Janelle's kind of coming
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: to this one on one like this is all moot.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I don't give a shit about none of y'all. I'm
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: in North Carolina, I've got my flower farm, I've got
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: my money. So like you can think what you want
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: to think, Yeah, and I don't give a crap. I
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: think that's where Janelle's coming from with this, and I
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: think with Mary, like Mary should have taken what Janelle
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: had told her in that initial converse about Coyote pass seriously,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: but Mary didn't. She went running back to Cody and
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Robin with a check, honey, with a fucking check, with
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: a check. And it just goes to show that like
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Mary never really liked Janelle ever, never trusted her, never
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: trusted her ever, even after thirty years of being her
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: sister wife and everything. And you know, there's probably some
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: justification for that, I guess, but like when Mary wants
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: to talk about in this tell all like, well, now
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: I can't trust any of them at all because of this,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: It's like, well, where was your responsibility and all of
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: this too?
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: And can Janelle trust you exactly? Running back to Cody
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: and Robin exactly.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: And so there's a lot of like distrust on all parts.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: And then you have Cody who is totally using this
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: to advance his advantage and totally trying to shirk the
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: responsibility off of him, put it on all these women
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: and act like he was just I don't know, I've
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: got Janelle on my ear and blah blah blah blah, boh,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: he's ask, and.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: You know, I definitely want to please her, And like
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: when Mary calls me, I get scared, but when Janelle
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: calls me and asks for something, well then I hop
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: up and try to do it because maybe Janelle knows
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: that I loved her, and maybe I still kind of do,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: and I feel a sense of obligation. I think what
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: he's trying to say is like I want to please her.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: That to me, out of this WAG episode was wild.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: That was like such a non sequitor, Like why are
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: you throwing that in right now? Are you trying to
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: telegraph that to Janelle so she can hear what you're saying,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Because like, I don't think there is a world where
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Robin would be down for that. Uh uh. I think
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: out of all of the exes, it's Janelle that intimidates
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Robin the most. I don't think she would ever agree
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: to them rekindling their love. So it was like such
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: a weird thing to say unless it's.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Like honest, I feel like it is honest.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I think it's honest.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: I feel like it is honest because she was the
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: first one he apologized too, and it was the most
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: cordial and the most amicable, and he talked about it.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: He even mentioned it in the apology, and like Janelle
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, we had something really special.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's some truth in our pants.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, wow, I can't believe he said that
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: on a tell and then Suki doesn't call it out
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: or anything.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: No follow up question, Suki, we don't want a clarifying
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: question right at this time.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: She was pissing me off, low key in this tel
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: sitting there.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: I just like, be a person like represent the audience.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: And we've talked about this in seasons past. We've talked
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: about this in seasons past, Like you don't even watch
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: the show.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: No, Like the first time she did a tell all,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: she didn't know what the hell was going on. She
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: clearly is not a fan. She doesn't have the frame
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: of reference. Maybe she's up to snuff now, but like, still, like,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: there are so many pockets of space where you could
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: have been start of the question. I know that would
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: have been good for us to hear, but you didn't. Like,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: how do you not follow up with him saying he
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: might still love Janelle? That's a bomb, that's a huge bomb.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: And how do you not know that there's breakdancing videos
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: of Robin. How are you asking that a question? Why
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: are you asking everybody.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: About the podcast? Seriously watch the podcast, bitch.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Why are you asking about girl games to everybody and
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: then like interrupting people when they're trying to explain to
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: you what girl games are. I'm just like, Suki, you're
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: pissing me off. And we've got like three more installments.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Of this mm hmm, driving me crazy.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Anyway, back to Coyote Pass, with this backdoor deal, I
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: feel like Janelle probably didn't want to have an official
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: backdoor deal, but she was probably fed up with everybody
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: stalling it and then Robin stalling it with her NDA bullshit,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: and she just told Cody, well, you could force the sale,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: and Cody's like, well, yeah, I do have the power
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: for that, but luckily it didn't go through. Then you
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: have Cody and Robin, well, Cody mainly talking about how
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Coyote passed with Mary She's only getting paid out of
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: him and Robin's good graces, and that she should be
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: grateful basically that she's getting any money at all, which
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: is so fucked up. And we didn't have that scene
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: in the season, did we. I feel like that was
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: edited out and then we're seeing it for the first
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: time in the tell all because it was a flashback
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: of Cody in his talking head saying that Mary's only
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: getting paid from Robin and I's good.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Gh right, I was thinking he said that to Suki,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: But that wasn't the clip.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: It was reatching.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't remember that when I watched it. I thought, oh,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: maybe it was during my surgery recovery when I was
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: like in a narcotic hage.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: I don't think so, maybe it was and I forgot
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: about it, But I'm like, I feel like that was
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: the first time we've seen that clip, so I don't know. Diabolical,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: absolutely diabolical, And we have Jen reacting for Mary for it,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: and I'm just like, Mary, can you please just be
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: a person and just say how you really feel about
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: all of it? Why are you worried about hurting anybody's
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: feelings here? If you don't trust anybody, you don't like
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: anybody on this set besides Jen, why don't you.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Just you have nothing to lose. Yeah, I don't really know.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Maybe she trusts Jen to say it more articulately than
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: she's able to in the moment, but like Jen coming
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: in and just being like, how dare you? Yeah, who
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: do you think you are? And I'm very curious to
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: know exactly how much money Mary paid into Coyote Pass.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I know that in the previews we're going to actually
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: be talking about the money that Mary put into Robin's
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: house and Janelle put into Robin's house, which I trust
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: they didn't get back. I think that was probably part
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: of the contract that Robin put in front of Mary,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: which killed the deal, because Janelle was talking about how
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Robin and Cody wanted them not to talk about not
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: just Coyote Pass, it sounded like not to talk about
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: any of their interactions business wise, and she wanted a
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: hold harmless clause. I forget what that is. Yeah, these
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: back in insurance, but like that was very interesting to me.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: So I think she doesn't want them talking about having
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: paid into the first McMansion and also the Coyote pasted.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: She doesn't want the numbers to be revealed. Uh, but
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I think we're actually gonna get to some of these
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: numbers in other one on one installments, I at least hope.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: So I fucking can't wait. We better get into that
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: because that's where the juicy t is and that's what
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: all of the recappers have been talking about, all of
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: us have been talking about for literal years. Show us
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: the coinss, talk about the coins. And even with Coyote
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Pass and them selling all of the parcels, like in
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: my opinion, it still wasn't even fairer because Robin got
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: a portion of it every week. Well because it's bs.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: And if they would have split it up three ways, right, yeah, Cody, Robin,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Mary and then Janelle, it would have been more fair
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: and more equal. But Cody Robin still ended up with
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: a bigger portion from Coyote Pass than Mary and Janelle.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: And that's just.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Because they're counted as individuals and not a married couple.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: And in theory, maybe Robin paid in on the deposit
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I know what for Coyote Pass. I don't know, she
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: saw some of her auntsy dolls can't see in village.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Maybe in order to put a down payment on her
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: parcel of land. We don't believe that.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: No, okay, not at all. But anyway, where was I
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: going with that? The coins? So yeah, maybe it was
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: in the NDA. So it was revealed in this episode
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: that Robin was the one that introduced in the eleventh hour,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: in the eleventh hour when the deal was about to expire,
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: and it ultimately did expire because of Robin's bs because
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: she sent out to Mary and I'm assuming she sent
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: it to Janelle told Janelle have to sign the NDA.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: And my question again, did she sign.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: The Maybe that dumb bitch signed an Indiana.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Because she talked about getting all of the paperwork done
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: and it was just Mary who in the end refused
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: to sign the paperwork and so the deal didn't go through.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I think Janelle signed a dumb ndia.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: She's so stupid, and so I think.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Her moon is in Capricorn. I was just looking at really,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I thought, there's so much Capricorn and Earth energy among
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: all of these adults.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: These are some dumb ass I forget.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I'm speaking totally. Can we just pause it for a
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: second second, go look. So I did find some speculation
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: about her moon sign, and I'm not sure where the
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: conversation was. I don't know if Janelle ever said it
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: outright or if people on Reddit are just going crazy
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: like we do. But people speculate that her moon is
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Virgo or Capricorn girl sun sign Taurus.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, some dumb ass earth energy over here.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I just I don't really understand because to me, like
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Capricorns are all about their money. Oh they are, and yeah,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: they know how to organize money. They know how to
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: typically generate money. It's like, but Janelle seems kind of
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: stupid a little bit about money, buying the fifth will, yeah,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: and like a lot of the choices that she has made,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: it has just been a little bit wonky. So I
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: just try to well better. Moon.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: The shadow side of Capricorn would be like bad with
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: financi chaotic with money, because a good Capricorn would be
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: super into their four oh one k's and they got
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: their investments and they're making all that money.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: She's got an a price. She's worried about her estate.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: So anyway, so maybe that's some of the motivation around
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: why Janelle is making the choices that she's making, because
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: she's very anxious.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah money, and look that's fair, like protect your bag.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: And you should have been smarter with your financial investments
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: and your financial endeavors while you were married to Cody,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: and then now you're not, and now it's not working
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: out for you. And now you look at Robin and
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: her big old McMansion and wondering you're living with your kids,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: and like, I'm not dogging on that, because I think
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: that's great that she has children that will take her
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: in and she'll she gets to do this farm thing
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: with Maddie and Caleb, and she's doing that and that's awesome.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: But like, Janelle was objectively dumb with her financial decisions,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: and so yeah, I don't blame her for trying to
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: force the sale with Coyote Pass because nobody else was
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: willing to sell it. But then you have Robin coming
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: into play wanting Mary to sign an NDA, and maybe
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: allegedly Janelle signed that NDA too because she just wanted
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: to sell everything and be done with it. But Mary,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: this is where she comes in clutch. She was a
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: g and she's like, I'm never signing something that you're
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: going to make me be silenced and not talk about shit.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: She doesn't go into the details of what this NDA
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: was forcing her to do, but it's implied that Robin
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: didn't want her to talk about a bunch of shit.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Why are we attributing it just to Robin though, I mean,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Cody's not like in a vacuum. Robin's not consulting a
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: lawyer to get this NDA drawn up without Cody right there.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: So it's got to be Cody's idea and her idea
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: as well. It's not just her that's acting as this obstacle.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: And I really resent that she's trying to frame it though,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: that she wanted to stop the entire process because she
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: needed it to be fair for Mary and so everybody
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: got their fair share. No, you stopped the process that
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: you could bind Mary to some sort of fucked up NDA.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: And furthermore, production, why are we allowing Cody and Robin
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: to pull out NDAs to silent other cast members about
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: acted storylines happening within a season? Well why would you
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: allow that? Right?
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, because it's one thing if it's like about
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: this private sale of coyote baths, but like if it's
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: really about shit that we could talk about on the show.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Which we are talking about on the show, right, I
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: don't know how many times I saw, how many times
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I saw like the four parcels and all the names
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: on the parcels, and we saw Mary tendering a check,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: And we've had multiple conversations about Coyote Pass and the
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: sale thereof, and so now you're going to allow Cody
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: and Robin to bind these people under an NDA. I mean,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: that's just wild to me. And again we know that
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: they tried to do that with the kids, with Peydon
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: and with some of the adult children, trying to get
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: TLC to bind the kids under some kind of an
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: NDA so that they can't go out and have patreons
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: and talk about their experience on the show. Like, why
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: are we doing this TLC? That doesn't make any sense
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: That's a great point, though, like why would TLC even
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: allow them to have that kind of a power? Wild
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: to me. But that's where we have it, so we have.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Robin allegedly was the one that brought out the NDA.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Mary said, fuck you, I'm not going to sign that,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: and so she ultimately didn't. The deal ended up expiring
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: according to Janelle, but thank god that the people who
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: wanted to buy it renewed the deal and so that
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: they were able to finalize everything without Mary having to
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: sign to sign an NDA. Mary does kind of talk
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: about it a little bit that if she would have
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: signed it, she would not have been able to talk
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: about or react to the sale of Coyote Pass. She
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: would not have been able to argue for her fair
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: share of anything, which is crazy. This is where we
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: have the discussion about the division of parcels and how
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Christine said it was always unfair from the jump, like,
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: don't understand why it was even divided this way to
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: begin with. And then was it Cody was the one
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: that said Janelle was the one, yes, that told him
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: that Mary shouldn't be on her own parcel because we
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: can't trust her.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I believe it.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, I believe it. Why do you think they
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: don't trust her with stuff like that?
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I remember Mary talking about how Cody
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: and Robin sat her down to go over her Lula
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Roe money and wondering whether they were getting their fair
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: share of her Lula Roau revenue. Does everybody remember when
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: she mentioned that? So maybe there was to general distrust
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: of Mary, but like that's her money. Obviously she can
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: do whatever she wants to do with the lul row
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: funds that she generates. They felt entitled to it. I
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: don't know, but I forget who said it. Maybe it
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: was Jen, maybe it was Mary, but like this is
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: why we have Maybe it was Christine. This is why
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: we have problems because nobody trusts anybody. There's all these
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: side conversations that are taking place undermining some other key player,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: and so nobody knows what's going on, and it's unfair
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: on its face.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: It's so objectively unfair, And it was just interesting to
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: me that that was dropped that they were worried about
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Mary having like enough financial power and Coyote pass. But
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: then you have Cody and Robin having all of the power,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: and Robin's names are on everything. So I'm like, huh,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: make it makes sense. Why is Mary the one that
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: we don't trust?
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: And why would Janelle be okay with trusting Robin exact
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: names on multiple plots, but not Mary.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: And then you have Janelle talking some shit about Robin,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: which I did appreciate in this tell all. I mean,
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: she talks about how Robin is submissive and shy and pretty,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: and we have that whole discussion about that, which was
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: so stupid. But she said something that I thought was
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: very poignant, that you have to give power to get power,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: and that's what she thinks Robin has been doing. And
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: then we have Robin saying like, well, I'm not submissive,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: and Cody's saying Robin's not submissive because she's got a
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: spine of concrete and steel, Like whatever the fuck that means.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Shut up, yeah, stupid, stop defending your bitch wife.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: But like Janelle's saying that I thought was really great.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: And then we have jen echoing the sentiment by saying
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: that she does think that Robin is submissive because that's
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: what Cody wants, and Mary says the same thing, like
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Cody wants a wife that doesn't stand up for herself
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: and doesn't fight, which I think is kind of funny
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: because I'm like, I feel like that's all Robin's doing
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: is standing up for what she gets, Like she gets
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: the big house, she gets all the money, she gets
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: her share of Coyote Pass for some reason.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: But she's doing it manipulative, which is what Janelle's referencing
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: by saying, you have to give some power to get
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: some power. So she knows what she's doing, whereas Mary
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: just couldn't help herself. She would have these unregulated emotions
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: and blow up at Cody, and so now Cody is
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: very wary of her, and maybe Janelle is just a
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: different animal. She's very direct, I want this, you need
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: to be doing this, and if you don't. I'm going
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: to go out and do it myself. Then Christine's just crazy. Yeahs,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: but Robin knows how to finesse it.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: She appears submissive, but it's not, which is what I
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: think Janelle is saying.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: That makes sense. Yeah, and this whole discussion, I just
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: kept thinking, like, man, Christine was the smart one getting
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: the fuck out of there and not having to deal
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: with Cody Pass. Like I've said on this pod many
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: times before that I thought it was kind of stupid
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: that she just kind of gave up her her person
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: and you know, didn't care about the proceeds or whatever.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: But now I'm looking at all of this and all
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: of the arguments back and forth, I'm like, damn, Christine,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: you did the right thing.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Just Oh, it would have totally not given up my parcel.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: I would have been like, whatever, you guys, sell it.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Let me know. I can wait twenty fucking years. But
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: you need my name on that on that contract. You
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: need my name. Yes, if her name is on one parcel,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: then that parcel cannot be sold unless they compel the
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: sale or unless she agrees to the sales, So they
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: would have to go through Shenanigans to get her to agree.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: That's what I would do, And I'd be like, run
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: me my money one dollars two hundred thousand dollars. If
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: I've got some money on the table, I'm not leaving
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: it there, I'm taking it with me. So that's what
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: I would have done. She had all of the power
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: in that moment because his name was not on her
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: deed for her house, and her name was on the
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: deed for that lands. She did not have to do it.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: But I understand not wanting the headache, but like, I
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: would have just talked to my lawyer, talk to my man.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, talk to my hoose if you want to.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: If you want to sell this parcel, because my name's
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: on it, you can't sell it without me.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I feel like that's what Mary was trying to do,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Like talk to my lawyers. But then you have Janelle
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: and Cody having this weird backdoor conversation about forcing the sale.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, could could Christine have had any power
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: with Coyote Pass if Cody could have just forced it?
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: No, If they were going to force the sale on Mary,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: what that means is that they would probably have to
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: get some judge to order the sale of that one parcel,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: for which she would only have gotten thirty three percent.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: I see.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: So, but what she's saying is like, but y'all know
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: that I paid in twenty five percent for all four.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: So what she's like saying is I have a lawyer,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: and we can argue that I paid you that check
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: you cashed it. We can argue that I contributed it,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: and we can take this all the way to fucking court. Yeah,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: or you can try to compel the sale and we
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: can see what happened. So she was just ready to fight, yeah,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: which is what she needed to do.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Fair. Yeah, And I mean there could have been a
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: world where Christine, you know, could have done that and everything.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: But I feel like she looked at this whole situation
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: and was like.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: I just need these wives to fight. I need one
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: of these wives or one of these kids to fucking
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: take it to court and fight.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Sue them for everything. Go back through all the ledgers
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: and everything, count all of your coins, get all the receipts,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: and sue Cody and Robin for all their bullshit, because
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: how are they How are you guys okay with them
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: being in a two point one million dollar mansion that
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: was funded primarily through all of your guys's fucking checks, so.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Relaxed about it. I don't understand why aren't you in
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: a feminine rage? Why they stole all your money in
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: all of the assets, they funneled it into their trust
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: funds and into their I mean, Maddie is more pissed
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: off than Janelle is.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Yep, there's got to be some weird legal loophole, shenanigans,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: or some bullshit that is preventing them from suing them
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: for all of.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Yes, because when they turned over the money for the
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: first McMansion from the proceeds of the sale of the
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: homes in Las Vegas, they tendered those funds to Robin
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: and Cody as a legal gift, so they actually can't
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: do it. They could try and make a case you
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: can sue anybody for anything, but they would probably never prevail.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: But also I think Robin doesn't want them to talk
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: about it, which is why it's beautiful that they're gonna
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: talk about it in this towel.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Have the preview for the next installments and they look
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: pretty fucking juicy. So we have Robin saying Janelle is
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: calling her last minute contract a power play because she
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: got caught backstabbing Mary. So she's saying it's a contract.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: We all know it's an NDA to try and silence Mary.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: She's trying to subvert it, and she's trying to put
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: it back on Janelle because she got caught backstabbing Mary.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, but you still wanted to force a contract
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: onto Mary. So we got to talk about that. We're
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: gonna press her on that, Soue Kanya. Then we have
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Mary saying she thinks Robin should have told her about
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: what was happening, because at the very least that would
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: have been respectful. But we all know Robin is not respectful.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't betray my husband to tell his ex wife
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: that there was something going on that he was dabbling in.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: You're on the side of Robin in that regard.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: I just I understand that a wife would not tell
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: an ex wife, especially one who has a problem with me.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't like betray my husband to tell her that
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: he's thinking about taking a roundabout way to sell this property.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't personally. I would stand with my man personally.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: If he was gonna take a roundabout way to sell
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: it from the ex wife. That's not fair, and I
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: stand by it. Then we have Robin saying she didn't
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: trust Mary enough to tell her what was going on,
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: and Suki asks why, and Robin goes, are you serious?
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: Are you serious? Right now? Yeah?
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: I'm serious. Answer the question with your words.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: She's not going to.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: It's a deflecting tactic.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Totally.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, really, I'm going to tell you what girl games are?
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: You don't know what fair?
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Thank god? Okay, we have David saying that he thinks
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Cody crossed the bro code when he mentioned that he
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: did love Christine.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: This is so stupid. Are you serious? David's shut up? Why?
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Because that's so dumb. I mean, obviously he's saying that
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: I said this shit on TV about not loving you,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: and that was wrong. I did love you, and I
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: want to say that on TV. I want to clear
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: the record. That's nothing about a bro code, that's nothing
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: about disrespecting you. It's okay if her ex husband loved
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: her at a period of time, you shouldn't be threatened
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: by that. That's just such a weird thing to me
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: for David to be upset about.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I kind of was like, yeah, David,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: because I mean, if Cody's coming over and being like Christine,
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: I actually did love you, and David's right there, but
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's not a place for her.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: No, we still be saying it for her, for his
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: for his kids with her, I guess, and to rehab
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: his image. Yeah, but I just I don't think he
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: was doing it to like make an advance on Christine.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Well, no, because he's disgusted by Christine. But still I
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: feel like David's trying to prove to Christine like your mine.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: It's probably like a thing like that, like him being
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: possessive over Christine. You're my woman, not Cody's woman.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: No more.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: Then we have Jen saying Cody forgets how much time
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: they actually spent together, because I guess this is like
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: probably in reference to Cody, not like Jen, or Cody
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: saying that Jen doesn't really know him at all, and
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Jen's like, no, we spent a lot of time together.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Bro. It almost felt like a threat a little bit,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: like I was actually around for a lot. You want
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: to know how much you want to know what I saw.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: See and that's what I want. If it's going to
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: be a threat, then to start talking some shit deliver
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: on it please, And then the last thing we see
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: in the preview is Cody thinking Jen had some influence
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: over Mary leaving the family. Suki asks Jen whether she
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: told Mary to take the money and run and like
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: basically implied, you know, did you tell Mary to leave?
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: And Jen actually says she regrets not telling Mary to
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: leave sooner, and she kind of chokes up a little bit,
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: which I'm just like, hmm, interesting. I thought Jen was
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: telling Mary the whole time, leave this mofo, but apparently
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: she wasn't.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Well, what did you think of the first installment of
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: the one on ones? Did you think like we're gonna
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: get some stuff that's good.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like it was better than previous
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: one on ones that we've had. It's still very annoying
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: to have this like back and forth, he said, She
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: said thing, it's still still so fucking stupid that we're
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: doing these separately. But I do think there was some
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: juicy shit, and I do think that the next couple
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: tell alls are going to be pretty juicy too. If
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: we're going to talk about coins, if we're gonna call
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: out Robin for her bullshit with the NDAs.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: And the Catfish and the fucking because we've never talked
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: about that.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: No, we have not.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: We've talked about the Catfish, of course, I mean we've
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: we've gone over that endlessly, and then there's these side
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: conversations on the internet that we're all talking about. But like,
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: they've never talked about Robin's potential participation in the catfish.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Mary brings it up, I know, which I'm like, yes.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: Like I want to know what's going to be said
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: about that, So I am excited.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: And Cody crashing out about it, Like, I'm still surprised
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: that you're having such a fucking reaction about it. It's
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: been fucking fifteen years or something.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Because his wife is being caught out.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what it is.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: But I'm like, Cody, I thought you didn't want there
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: to be any animosity.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Why are you screaming at soub Kanya again this year
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: on the couch? Exactly?
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: You're weirdo oh and speaking. I forgot to mention Christinea
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: and David at the very beginning had said that they
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: want to see if Cody's behavior has changed, and they
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: want to see that from him on these tell alls.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: So like we'll see what happens, but it seems like
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: we're not going to get that in these tell alls.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Like Cody's changed behavior for the better, Yeah, I mean
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: I think we're seeing a little bit of it. I
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: think that he's not as volatile and he's not as
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: absolutely insane in his villain era as he was for
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: the last couple of years, but like it's still in there.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: He's crashed now of course about the cat, Yeah, talk
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: about a narcissistic injury. Totally, It's still alive in him
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: and that I love to see it.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: I love to say it.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: She was sucking on a banana in aub because you
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: fail as a husband.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, you shouldn't have been so distant.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Right, Well, is there anything else that we should say
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: to these beautiful raccoons before we get up on out
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: of here, Beatrice?
• 59:08
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• 59:17
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• 59:19
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• 59:20
  Speaker 1: We will be back next week to continue our conversation
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: around Sister Wives. And also we are going to be
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: starting our coverage of Suddenly Amish, a new show which
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: I'm very excited about. But it premieres tonight and we
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: record on this night, and so we're going to be
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: one week late in our coverage of Suddenly Amish until
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Sister Wives Season twenty concludes, and then we'll catch up
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: and then we'll all go through it together. Yeah, and
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: we'll probably resume our Sister Wives rewives, oh for sure,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: because we're in season six seven, so.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: We get we're getting close to the catfish's getting closer
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: to the catfish.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: We can to get to the catfish anyway, So stay
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: tuned for all of that until next time. Please do
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: not forget. So we have nothing but love for you
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: And peace and night