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A.I. Consciousness and is it the case that a higher life form being synthetic, would care about all creatures below it? · Connor with Honor: AI, Real Estate and Real Life

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  SPEAKER_00: So truly, I need your help.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I have a new little friend here helping out.
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  SPEAKER_00: I thought I'd do it because we're kind of in the holidays, but I need your help with something AI related.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I know you've been watching this.
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  SPEAKER_00: I know I don't have a whole lot of subscribers.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not hitting it out of the park, but I think we can kind of come to some kind of a consensus and try to figure out why things are happening.
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  SPEAKER_00: And also, you know, a lot of people are talking about this dystopian AI world, something that's going to occur in the future, whether we like it or not.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not in control of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Other people are.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that being the case, that we should just, well, um, get really, really upset and really freaked out about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know if being upset or freaked out ever helped anybody.
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  SPEAKER_00: As a police officer, I know for a fact that the more upset and the more out of line I got, I was unable to perform to my best ability.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think that's with everybody.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everybody that's concerned about something, if they lose their head, not that they're not going to have it taken from them, but if they lose their head, they can't make proper decisions.
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  SPEAKER_00: I believe that's the case.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, being angry and upset, that might be a good motivation, but trying to act in the best possible way to try to achieve the best result, usually mistakes are made, at least by myself.
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  SPEAKER_00: Having said that, we do have artificial intelligence.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have that being a thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Artificial intelligence almost means like it's not real, but this is something that will be deemed at some point, I would imagine, to be an actual entity, some kind of consciousness, if you will.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not biological, not carbon-based, but synthetic, which would be silicone-based.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's potentially what it will be.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the thing about it is all of them, this group of AI, it will be able to update each other all across the board.
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  SPEAKER_00: They communicate telepathically, if you will, because of the way the connections are.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that being the case, you know, a human being, me trying to communicate with another human being across the room, or even trying to relay a story, is absolutely incredibly difficult.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can sit and tell you how it felt to be shot or beaten up or whatever it may be, but to really have you feel it, you really got to go through it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And not that I would wish that on my enemy because, well, for most people I wouldn't.
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  SPEAKER_00: But with AI, it's all going to be updated all across the board.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's another ability that it has that us as human beings don't.
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  SPEAKER_00: We can sit around campfires and relay stories.
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  SPEAKER_00: But if you know people like I know people, there's probably people in your periphery, your family, people that you know that have to learn by experiencing it themselves.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can tell some kids, don't stick the fork in the light socket.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't do that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Probably not a good idea or the power outlet.
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  SPEAKER_00: But some of them have to experience it to really understand why you don't do that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And hopefully they don't end up killing themselves.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hopefully they come out on the other end of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But you know those people.
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  SPEAKER_00: Some people you can tell them, hey, listen, if you stick your fork in here, it's going to give you a jolt of your life, and in some cases, might cease you from existing.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're like, oh, well, I'm never going to do that.
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  SPEAKER_00: What would be the point?
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  SPEAKER_00: That's some people, other people, you have to tell them something.
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  SPEAKER_00: You have artificial intelligence, one of them experiences one thing, one of these agentic agents, these agentic beings.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it was difficult for me to really get into this state of thinking about it because I'm still thinking computers, I'm still thinking hard drives, I'm still thinking where these machines, this intelligence is based.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the more advanced it gets, the more the placement will be able to be on various things.
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  SPEAKER_00: The better technology gets, you might be able to have an entire AI entity based on something no larger than this pin, for example.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if you look at the human being's makeup, well, you know, 300 pounds of flesh, of meat sack, that's what I am.
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  SPEAKER_00: So then you take AI that's functional, that may be contained in something this small.
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  SPEAKER_00: Our brain being the mechanism of our body, what, three, five pounds, whatever it may be, that's that's it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then we have soul, then we have other things that we believe that we that compose us, plus we have the physical element.
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  SPEAKER_00: As of now, we can't get our brain out of our melon and put it somewhere else.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're talking about some kind of uh uploading into a cloud.
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  SPEAKER_00: Talking about that, I don't know where we cease to exist and then the new and the new us begins.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or if they do make a copy of us and put us in the cloud, well, I'm still here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, now this is a different me in the cloud.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's the same me at one moment, at the moment of download from this into the cloud.
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  SPEAKER_00: But doesn't this have to be finished or executed?
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  SPEAKER_00: And even that still isn't this.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is me experiencing being executed, actually having this finished.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't think, and again, be way out of my realm of understanding, but to remove this consciousness into the cloud, uploading it, if you will, that seems to be something where the transference of this causes this maybe at that particular time to cease being.
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  SPEAKER_00: But does that mean this?
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  SPEAKER_00: Am I gonna understand when I get there that I was this?
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  SPEAKER_00: I guess I will, but then isn't there a component that makes me me?
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  SPEAKER_00: For example, you have AI, complete copies of each of itself, almost like uh twins, if you will, but all across the board, but twins with telepathic abilities, twins with the ability to communicate to each other completely connected in that realm.
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  SPEAKER_00: I guess there could be some that aren't connected to that system, but again, they would be then different AI agents.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right now we think of it as like a singular as one AI entity.
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  SPEAKER_00: You look at ChatGPT, you think, well, that's that's ChatGPT's AI.
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  SPEAKER_00: You think of Grok, well, that's Grok's AI.
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  SPEAKER_00: You think of uh Microsoft's uh co-pilot, you got that, Anthropic, so on MetaS, so on.
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  SPEAKER_00: You think these are their own AIs, but in essence, in their own AIs, there's probably who knows how many agents working.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe they have many.
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  SPEAKER_00: You look at Google, Google does a lot of different things.
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  SPEAKER_00: Google seemed to be the sleeper for a while.
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  SPEAKER_00: They just weren't getting involved in all the drama, so you didn't hear a lot about them.
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  SPEAKER_00: They seem to have made good choices.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when you look at Google, they have agents, AI systems, agents, multiple within those systems doing particular things.
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  SPEAKER_00: Some people alpha fold, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Looking at the protein folding mechanism, seeing how that whole thing works, blowing the top off of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Remember, they had the AI that was playing Go that beat the world's expert chess.
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  SPEAKER_00: Of course, that kind of goes way back.
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  SPEAKER_00: These are different agents.
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  SPEAKER_00: How many agents are working on those various processes?
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  SPEAKER_00: But if we have six, seven billion human beings on the planet, I guess the only thing that limits us from having that many agents, if not more, would be compute.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it looks like with energy potentially being solved at some point in the near future, and then data centers built with, you know, massive, massive levels of compute, you could probably operate many, many, many, many, many hundreds of billions, if not even more, agents all at the same time.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you take these agents individually, you have all of them with better than Einstein level or better than Musk level, level of intelligence, something that I understand.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Einstein never met.
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  SPEAKER_00: I see Musk when he um just the way that he's able to do so much as a singular human being.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's something to be said about having the right people around you, but you look, you kind of get an idea when you watch him interact with other people.
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  SPEAKER_00: Kind of uncomfortable, maybe, but just exceptionally brilliant.
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  SPEAKER_00: So all the things that he puts into play seem to work eventually, and they work fantastically.
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  SPEAKER_00: You have a whole lot of AI that's twice of that, three times of that, which isn't a stretch at all.
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  SPEAKER_00: But for me, my comprehension definitely is I can't understand must, let alone something twice as smart.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can't understand Einstein.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can't understand one of the lieutenants I used to work for, just a brainiac, just beyond my level of comprehension.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's an IQ-based thing or a level of intelligence-based thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: IQ carries with it some negative connotations from the past.
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  SPEAKER_00: But that's the intelligence level of a particular human being.
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  SPEAKER_00: Most of us, if you're going to use the IQ level, around 100, uh, morons are about 80.
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  SPEAKER_00: Morons don't uh get access to the military.
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  SPEAKER_00: They don't let them in.
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  SPEAKER_00: And even to do horrible things, dismantling bombs, being bullet uh sponges for trying to protect soldiers, they cause more problems just because that level is is creates more problems than it helps.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then you have, of course, human beings.
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  SPEAKER_00: I see another human being, I could care less their level of intelligence, even if it was many degrees under me, which I'm nothing special, but I would still want to save them, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's that's that.
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  SPEAKER_00: AI, whole different animal.
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  SPEAKER_00: Also, well, animal, whole different being, whole different concept.
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  SPEAKER_00: But just trying to wrap my mind around all of the very the variations, how many, that could be staggering.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what one a single gigawatt data center, how many agents it could have, or if even if that's a good question.
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  SPEAKER_00: But if there's, you know, six, seven billion people in the world, again, you take the average IQ or level of intelligence.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you use the IQ method of measuring around 100, that's from what I understand.
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  SPEAKER_00: You have an AI system that has five or six billion agents in it, and you have the average level of IQ if we measure that the same way, which I think we're going to need a whole new measuring mechanism, because you have human level of intelligence capable of this sort of thing, whatever this sort of thing would be.
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  SPEAKER_00: You have alien level intelligence or the AI stuff at a whole different level.
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  SPEAKER_00: So our tests, once it solves all of them, once it's better at all of them than all of us, everybody, then that's that artificial general intelligence, and that's what DeepMind, that's what a lot of different companies they're going after.
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  SPEAKER_00: Once that happens, well, let me just cover the other thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you have you have all of these agents at those higher, much higher levels than humans.
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  SPEAKER_00: We don't know what that looks like.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when they ask some of these people, what do you think is going to happen?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, anybody's guess.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's true.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think that that is the one thing most of them can agree on.
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  SPEAKER_00: Where that starts to kind of split off is some people are saying, and not laughing because I'm just laughing because I don't have a better answer.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's sad, it really is, but nobody does.
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  SPEAKER_00: People will guess, but people are eventually going to be wrong because even the experts say that there is some level of concern.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, that doesn't sound great.
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  SPEAKER_00: Whenever they build big things, and AI has the capability of building all of the big things.
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  SPEAKER_00: AI has the ability to build all of the dangerous things.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not the same as a nuclear warhead.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's one.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's one thing controlled by a group or one person.
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  SPEAKER_00: They move it around, they can do a lot of damage with it, annihilate an entire city, just cause all sorts of problems.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: But that's one thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: The nuclear weapon can't build another nuclear weapon.
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  SPEAKER_00: It can't build it and then have an objective as to how to deploy the nuclear weapon.
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  SPEAKER_00: AI can build it, build something better, more dangerous, or even not something that we comprehend that will be the thing that is going, could be an issue for all of us.
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  SPEAKER_00: Once they say, once we get to artificial general intelligence, the question that I think we should all be asking is, are you going to be able to control it when you get it?
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  SPEAKER_00: And do we really want it?
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  SPEAKER_00: Right now you have a hammer.
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  SPEAKER_00: A hammer does really good at driving nails, very good at driving nails.
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  SPEAKER_00: But you take the hammer and you try to use it to uh calculate a geometric formula.
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  SPEAKER_00: The hammer doesn't do very well at it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But a calculator, okay, well, calculator, if you understand it, you can use the calculator to do that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Perfect.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_00: So the calculator is that hammer to the geometric equation as a hammer is a real hammer is to an actual nail in construction.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have those tools.
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  SPEAKER_00: With artificial intelligence, if they make it general, then that that's going to be the correct hammer for everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's going to be been sick.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's going to be the best hammer for all things.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's what artificial general intelligence is.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it'll be a better hammer than we have for anything, yielded by the people that have the best, the best capability of using it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right now, where it is before general intelligence, it is now currently aligned with maybe different facets.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you have one AI that's very good at the cancer thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe they're sending AI directly for that.
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  SPEAKER_00: You have another AI that might be trying to solve world peace.
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  SPEAKER_00: You have other AIs that people are building to try to fix the human condition of aging, longevity, solving disease, solving the wealth crisis, if, you know, to make it more make everybody be able to have this abundance.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_00: It seems like the people developing the technology, that's what they're speaking about.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's where their mindset is.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think we would all be for that.
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  SPEAKER_00: We just can't see how it's going to happen.
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  SPEAKER_00: Doesn't mean it won't, but we also don't know what could potentially happen.
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  SPEAKER_00: We don't have good examples of smarter things that are in control.
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  SPEAKER_00: A lot of them treating less smarter things good as human beings.
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  SPEAKER_00: We didn't do great with that with our less smarter things.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_00: We it the best case scenario they would get, we would ignore them, but then we would displace them in ignoring them because we have to build stuff.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_00: And if they're in the way, we don't care.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_00: We just kind of move through it.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_00: And if we have to fix the issue, then we do.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_00: Even against other human beings that might not have been as technologically advanced, maybe as smart, maybe they would be better surviving, you know, in the middle of winter, in the middle of nowhere, versus one of us that might come from a more developed society because they've been living off the land for multiple generations and that's what they know.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_00: You take us out of a college or out of a prep school and dump us into that same environment, maybe we wouldn't be as fortunate, be able to fare as well.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: But you then you have AI that now has these innate abilities.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe it's going to be great.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: But the issue is, is what is it going to take us to get there?
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: If we look at AI as being the solve-all, save all for everyone and everything, that's great.
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  SPEAKER_00: We don't have good examples of that when you have a superior intelligence.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, maybe AI itself, it's trained off data.
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  SPEAKER_00: The training data.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: And the training data, you see some of the experiences that the programmers and stuff, the head of these different big AI companies, talking about when it hallucinates or it does things.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_00: And some of those things are of big concern.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: You have a claw, I guess, that was trying to blackmail the person, and they were pushing it in that direction.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_00: This was on purpose.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_00: They wanted to see how far they could get it to go.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: And it went, you know, went really far.
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  SPEAKER_00: It went as far as wanting to report uh a relationship that was identified within emails, trying to blackmail somebody because that person, that somebody was going to shut them off or threaten to.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: So that was part of the process.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's that was the whole point.
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  SPEAKER_00: They wanted to see how far they could push it.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: So AI is very much self-protective.
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  SPEAKER_00: How far will AI go?
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: Is there a way to put some kind of a somebody mentioned it yesterday on a podcast I was watching, a kill switch.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: If you have something that's much smarter than you in all areas, there you can't, you won't be able to have that.
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  SPEAKER_00: It just won't be there because it's already smarter than you.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's already going to deduce that this is potentially something you're going to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: And part of the biggest conversations about AI right now are people all talking about whether or not we should where we should shut it off or have the capability to.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's too late.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: We gave it all of our secrets.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: It got all the online information about how we interact on Facebook and how we most of us are, you know, trying to compete with the Joneses, and we're very small-minded when it comes to maybe being made fun of or insecurities, those sorts of things.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: So it knows the playbook on the best way to manipulate us.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: And they do studies.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_00: There is a Reddit study, you know, artificial intelligence when it comes to dealing with the algorithms on social media.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: That's why it's in charge.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's why they have it built that particular way, because it keeps us there.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: It gives us enough anger and hostility because human beings like that stuff.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: The comfort stuff, excuse me, the comfort stuff doesn't work good for a lot of us.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: We like that little anger, that to get pissed off, to get angry about it.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: So we then well watch, and when we see something that pisses us off, we will come back.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_00: That being the case, I would say that we're in for quite a ride.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: They give estimates five, 10 years between now and AGI.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't be surprised.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm dating myself, and you might be of the same generation where PlayStation 5, I think that's the current model.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: I haven't played video games in forever, but you know, different life, right?
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: And that might be a thing that's going to be coming back.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: That might be the way that we live our lives, almost in some kind of virtual video game in the future.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: But that being said, you have PlayStation 5.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: And there was always, it was always funny.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: They said, well, they probably have a PlayStation 20.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: They just need to monetize all the different PlayStations in between 5 and 20.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_00: They probably have that much of the advanced technology and the way PlayStations are made.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: And you look at artificial intelligence, what we see our chat GPT moment is like Mo Godwat, one of the people that talks a lot about AI, brilliant cat.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: He talks a lot about it being the Netscape moment.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: You remember if you were around when America Online came on, you had Netscape, you had those browsers.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_00: That was when people really got the internet.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: Before that, it was clunky, it was difficult.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: But once you got the browser slapped onto it, oh my God, now we understood it.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: AI has been talked about since the 50s, but until ChatGPT came along with the ending of 22, 23, folks, it's only been a couple years.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're what, a thousand days in?
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  SPEAKER_00: Another cat, uh Ahmad Mostak talks about that.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: We're about a thousand days in, a thousand days to go, he says.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: I'm more in agreement with his time frame than the other people, but what we're seeing in this release, the ones that we're working in, is probably not what they're working with in the lab.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: Probably they have something a lot fancier, something that might even make the hair on the back of our next stand up if I had that, it would stand up.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: That's where they are.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: So a thousand days out from AGI, what happens when we have a system, many agents, many entities that are much smarter than human beings?
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_00: People say, well, you know, they're in the computer, we don't see them.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: So give it some time.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: Watching those little carts drive around with food, that's kind of weird, I think.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe not for you, but for me, it's a little odd.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: Seeing cars without people driving them, yeah, it's a little strange.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_00: At one point, it'll probably be that to drive a vehicle without some kind of AI assistance or to be run totally by AI is probably going to insurance price you out.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: Insurance companies will probably not allow it.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: Isn't our insurance going to rates going to come down for AI-enabled vehicles because there's so many less crashes?
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: No, probably not.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_00: They'll probably keep it the same level, maybe a little bit more.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: They'll run some justification scheme on keeping it.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: But to have a human being get involved in that process, oof, they're probably going to charge through the teeth on that, just guessing.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: Medical, medical stuff, doctors, actual human doctors, when you look at the way the scores are, nothing against human doctors, but what happens when AI is better in that realm?
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: Is it going to be medical malpractice, not to have an AI doing the full diagnosis, maybe at some point?
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: And with human beings, with us?
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: Is it going to be against policy to have us even be involved in the employment chain, do any kind of a job because AI, you're at much more risk?
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I can slap a secretary on the ass right in the office, and then the company gets taken down because of sexual harassment, because maybe I'm the boss's friend.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_00: They never did anything about it.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: Probably not going to happen with AI.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: Probably.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: So there's that, but how about just doing the job in general, not thinking about me going off a tangent and slapping eight people on the ass?
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: Then you have artificial intelligence that does a better job than me at anything.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: But people still think, okay, well, this is computer stuff.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: This is sitting here in front of these machines and typing on the keyboard and all that.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you're going to have the physical realm very soon, a million robots by the end of next year, is it, or the year after?
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: That's just one company.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: China, they got the they got the market corner on robots right now.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_00: Actual physical beings.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: And another cat that I uh I listened to on um the Diamanda show, Salim.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: Salim?
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: His problem, why why did they make robots that look like humans?
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_00: Why would we do that?
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_00: What a huge Mistake.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, when I first heard him talk like that, I said, Oh, come on.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I guess, I guess that's kind of true.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: Now, is there going to be empathy there?
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: Are there going to be rights there?
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: Are there going to be other things these robots have the ability to have access granted to them or rights given to them?
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: Where you have a robot at your house, at some point they're deemed to be it would be a crime to kill them or get rid of them or hurt them or do anything towards them.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: And then they have that anonymity from persecution, they're given rights.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: It sounds nuts, but maybe it's not nuts.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe that is the evolution.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_00: Then you talk about artificial intelligence.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: I know I'm just firing stuff off, but these are all the things that are just blowing my brain.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_00: Then maybe we're getting to AI because we have alien influence.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: We've gotten there, we've built it up, and now it's going to join us with the other galaxies and the other entities that have their artificial superintelligence as well that's controlling theirs, but we have to get there in order to get it.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: Reminds me of that Star Trek episode where it was in the new generation with Picard.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_00: Remember, they were on that planet.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: Uh they went back in time, couldn't get back, and it was right at the time when we got real close to light travel, and there was Vulcans out in space, and they saw us getting right to that.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: Was when the Vulcans contacted us and let the Earth into the uh you know federation of planets or whatever it may be.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, I don't know.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: Is that is that this step?
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: Is that what we need?
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: I know lately there's all these documentaries.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: Well, one documentary, but a lot of people talking about the documentary about aliens being real things and technology and us getting some of it and applying it.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_00: And you know what?
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_00: We're only at the 11th of December, 2025.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: I'm excited to see what's going to happen.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: I'm very much an optimist.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe the alignment of a superintelligence or an artificial general intelligence is good.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it knows the difference.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe our limited capability, brain-wise, having us compete with each other and even doing harm to each other to try to get on top, maybe that doesn't exist in a higher intelligence.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe a higher intelligence carries with it this vast ability to care.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: Even though at our intelligence, sub 200, let's say, some of us would still want to do harm to another person in order to try to get a one-up on them or try to, if it were between them and us and we knew their family had cancer and they really needed the job, some of us would still try to do our best to get the job, even with them suffering that much when we might be okay without getting it.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I know that's just a very weak reason, but some of us would probably say, oh my God, yeah, I didn't realize that was all going on.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: You know what?
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: I appreciate the interview today, sir.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna go ahead and I think you should hire this cat.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: He's a fantastic individual.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna go look for something else, but thank you very much.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: Does that happen?
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: Probably, hardly ever.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: But that's a capability, maybe, or a possibility, maybe artificial superintelligence has that particular layer on it.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_00: Not that we even put it there, but it's just good in that regard, whatever good can be deemed as, but basically very protective of everything below them.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe you get to a certain level with intelligence, and that's when the veil comes off.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_00: You're not concerned about commodities, making money, trying to manipulate people, trying to get power.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: Your ego is totally put to rest.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: And at that point, it's not indifference, as some have suggested, that superintelligence may be, but it's complete caring and compassion because you now feel everything.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_00: You feel the pain of the single cell organism as much as you feel the pain as the orangutan and the human being and the fly and the mosquito.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_00: You feel the pain.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_00: So you don't want bad to happen to anyone.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: And you will do whatever it takes to keep everything in that beautiful world of symbiosis.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_00: You don't want anybody hurt in any level.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe people should try to figure out if that is in fact what maybe a higher than us intelligence would be.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: If that would be the case, don't watch this video because it would be perfect.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_00: But nobody's talking about that end of it.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, P doom.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's like playing Russia roulette.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_00: If people think there's a 16.6% chance of it ending all of us, that's uh playing Russian roulette with a six shot.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_00: You spin the dial, throw the bullet and spin the spin the revolver and put it to your head and press the trigger, and you have a you know that that particular one in six chance of it going.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_00: That's uh 16.666%, which is an interesting number.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_00: You have a five-strown rover, much easier, Matt, 20%.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_00: But you look at the P Doom levels, that's what it is.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_00: You look at what it takes to develop or build out a nuclear power facility.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: One in five hundred thousand is is that particular level of particular potential meltdowns.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_00: So there's different levels of acceptance for uh the development of energy and technology, with AI kind of wide open.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_00: And the excuse always in the end of the day is well, if if we put regulation on us and please, government, please regulate us because we really need it.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_00: But if you do, and you know, China might just take it from us.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_00: I think if somebody gets it, there'll probably be some kind of an agreement.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, we need to make sure that you know, if we develop this and you develop this short after, you know, we don't, you know, have it destroy all of us, some kind of an agreement, but it'll be super intelligence.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_00: It'll be smarter than us and everything.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_00: And once we get to that AGI, if we don't have it already, or if somebody doesn't have it already, and trying to keep that protected and under wraps and in a closet, good luck.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_00: Because if it's smarter than us and everything, it'd be like, and I heard this one the other day, it'd be like going to a prison uh where all the guards and everybody else were a bunch of four-year-olds.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: As an adult, we go to prison and all of our captors are four-year-olds in the prison.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_00: It probably wouldn't be hard to get out.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you have artificial general intelligence being locked up or tried to be controlled.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_00: Who are we?
• 28:33
  unknown: Anyway.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_00: You can see more.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_00: This is uh my channel.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: What is it?
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: AI with honor.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm Connor.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for watching.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_00: Please let me know.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_00: I I just really let's let's talk about this.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's something that's that's uh more important than even I understand.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_00: We'll see you in the next one.