Latest / Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast / The Valley Finale Recap w/ Detroiters Jaime and Garrett Plus Tommy Manzo Conviction
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- 0:05Drama, Darling, Drama, Darling Drama, Darling. Good day, everybody,
- 0:21It's drama, Darling, It's me, your bitch wife host Amy Phillips.
- 0:25Joining me today are the Detroiters that I love from the bottom of my
- 0:31heart. To recap the valley, we have Jamie Moyer, lady friend,
- 0:35your bitch friend, got my bitch friend here, and my other bitch friend
- 0:40Garrett Fuller from Detroit himself. Garrett. Hi, Hey, how are you
- 0:44guys? Yes, so excited, Garrett. I think you want to say
- 0:53something. I could see it in your face. I was gonna say,
- 0:55I'm your bitch friend from Michigan. Yes you are. It just came a
- 1:02second too late. Delay. Yeah, thanks for giving him that chance,
- 1:08because that was a good bit, Garrett. It was a good bit.
- 1:14I'm so happy that we can close this season out together and that'll be great
- 1:19to do. It's just too bad that there's no reunion, obviously, but
- 1:23to know that they will probably quickly be picking up cameras and if not,
- 1:27they're probably doing it now if they haven't already, we have that to look
- 1:32forward to. Yeah. Yeah, seemed like what they left us with,
- 1:38it kind of left us with I felt like a little bit of a reunion
- 1:41type thing at the end. You know, they tied up some some strings
- 1:45at the end where I'm like, oh, okay, so they are talking
- 1:48a little bit. You know, they gave us a little updates on cure.
- 1:49Right, You're right, like the reunion for us. That's a great
- 1:56attitude. You know, not enough positive Bravo fans out there, you know
- 2:00today, so happy that you're gonna be that voice before we get into this
- 2:07whole like freaking recap. Yeah, I have some news. Let's get into
- 2:15dish serving dish. Okay, Well, guys, I don't know if you
- 2:23saw in the news or if you were following this at all about the conviction
- 2:28of Dina Manzo's ex husband, Tommy Manzo. Did you hear this news or
- 2:34had you been following this story late last night. I've heard it late last
- 2:39night on TikTok as I laid in bed doing exactly what everyone tells you not
- 2:44to do. Oh, I cost story and it is a spicer. Well,
- 2:50let me just explain. I'm gonna read this from the New York Post.
- 2:53Ex husband of Dina Manzo was convicted Tuesday of hiring a mobster to beat
- 2:58up his former's new lover, and now he's facing more than four decades in
- 3:06prison. So federal prosecutors said that Tommy Manzo, he you know, he
- 3:13co owns the Brownstone with Caroline's husband, al al Algie Albert. And what
- 3:22ended up happening was back in twenty fifteen, Tommy Manzo hired David Canton.
- 3:32I'm sorry he hired what what's Canton? I can't I'm sorry, it's spelled
- 3:39with an iron. I don't know. It's gonna try off. Uh So,
- 3:44Tommy Manzo planned an attack on David Canton, who is Dina's now husband.
- 3:51Okay, and he allegedly recruited, uh like the mafioso from the Luchese
- 3:59crime family to do this. And in return of hiring someone to put a
- 4:03hit on his ex wife's new boyfriend who is now her husband probably wait wait,
- 4:11wait question Okay, he promised this guy a free wedding at the Brownstone.
- 4:18This is incredible. Okay, I okay, got married at the brown
- 4:25Stone, so that's awesome. Holy shit, faux show. Okay, Maggie
- 4:30is from Jersey. Shout out Maggie from Jersey. He's the guy that used
- 4:36to have like the goatee, right, Like I'm trying to picture him from
- 4:41back in the day, like nameless, faceless but probably okay, like he
- 4:46was Dina's bought, like the kid a car in the old episodes. I'm
- 4:49trying to picture him. I know, God, it's so murky, nameless,
- 4:54faceless, just dude. Okay, So I have to look him up,
- 4:57Jamie before I rudely cut you off, and I APOLOGI but my ADHD
- 5:02was not going to allow me to get through that story if I didn't continue.
- 5:05Was it a hit or a beatdown? Great question? It says attack
- 5:13in the story, so I imagine it's an attack, not a hit.
- 5:16Hit would obviously mean death, right correct. Okay, So he did in
- 5:24fact do that against David Canton, and this guy did in fact get his
- 5:30wedding. But after all of this time, they finally are onto them.
- 5:34And now he has been found guilty of committing a violent crime in aid of
- 5:41racketeering, conspiracy to commit a violent crime, serious bodily injury, and concealing
- 5:48documents related to federal investigation, so on and so forth. So yeah,
- 5:56this is going to be intense. He'll be sentenced on October fifteenth. Now,
- 6:00I don't know if you remember this, Jamie, but do you recall
- 6:01when Caroline Manzo wrote a letter like a character letter, yes and support.
- 6:10Yes, this is why her and Dina no longer speak. Yeah. Yeah,
- 6:14so Caroline wrote a letter of support of her brother in law. He's
- 6:17a good man. Blah blah blah. But also the article doesn't mention this.
- 6:21When those two guys came in and beat up Canton, they also beat
- 6:27up Dina. They hit her, thank you. Yeah, she got she
- 6:30got hurt, she got roughed up. Pretty wild stuff. And also that
- 6:36reception was attended by over three hundred people, so they really got their money's
- 6:41worth on that. Or is that what you were just looking up, chicken?
- 6:45No, that's what I remember from the video. Last night, I
- 6:46was I was only just doodling to calm myself based on the sadness of this
- 6:54family being torn asunder. But last night, when I was listening to that
- 6:57video, he said that the reception was a ten over three hundred people.
- 7:00I'm like, that's a lot of fish. I can confirm. We didn't
- 7:05go to that one because it was too big. We didn't need that space.
- 7:09It was too big, So yeah, it can fully sit three hundred
- 7:12of sat in the space. I know that square footage for sure, did
- 7:16you? So you went and took a tour of the Brownstone. I can't
- 7:19believe this. Yeah, that was one of them. But like, man,
- 7:23this whole story sounds like a Scorsese film, like it's insane. And
- 7:28then I'm like, hey, Bravo, pick up the cameras. This is
- 7:31some stuff right here. This is nuts. And then it also wild that
- 7:38two sisters married two brothers. That's so wild, Like it's when you remember
- 7:43watching the show and you're like, hey, how did it work? So
- 7:45two sisters married two brothers. And to answer your your thoughts, Garrett,
- 7:50I don't think Dina's husband was ever on camera. It was just her and
- 7:54her daughter. I feel like, yeah, I just looked him up real
- 7:57quick and I had never recognized him. Yeah, And now that you say
- 8:00that, I was like, yeah, I don't remember. I think he
- 8:01was like purposely not on like gee, I wonder why. But as soon
- 8:05as I saw her, I was like, ah, yes, you know,
- 8:09I didn't even know you could like still hire like like thugs henchmen?
- 8:16Are those thirty s thugs? Oh wait? Those are goons? Those are
- 8:22goons, and you know what's funny and I and I wish that I had
- 8:24the quote because I'm not sure what city this is. Maybe you'll remember this,
- 8:28Jamie. But apparently when they did the hit, they said to both
- 8:35David Canton and Dina that's what you get from messing with Tenafly or some some
- 8:39city in Jersey. So they literally called themselves out, you know what I
- 8:45mean, like they they yet exposed themselves. It's so and so from Tenafly.
- 8:52I'm at seven eight nine Brooklyn Street. You come see about me when
- 8:54you wake up. Yeah, you want to see something. Understand this.
- 8:58Three hundred people at it had a reception. That's forty dollars ahead. Anyone
- 9:01takes forty dollars times three hundred plus you gotta pay for the band. So
- 9:05I'm sorry, Diana man Zoe, but I ain't have to punch you right
- 9:09in your nose. And I know who's gonna pay for the shrimp I'm taking
- 9:13you. Have you seen the Brownstone shrimp before? They're a huge They are
- 9:18a huge fist right here. If you watch me use my fist. I
- 9:24see you at the posh fashion show at the Brownstone. It seems to me
- 9:30like these guys like they're too old to be doing this. They don't know
- 9:33what they're doing anymore. They've lost their touch for sure. Yeah, if
- 9:37you needed to hire guys to beat me up, it would be the easiest,
- 9:41like fifty bucks they ever made, because I wouldn't even I'm just like,
- 9:45I just ow all right, you don't even have to beat me up.
- 9:48We're at the age now where I'm like, if anyone shows any physical
- 9:50movement, I'm like, slow down, slow down. So I can't even
- 9:56do it properly anymore. Oh, I was washing my hair in the shower
- 10:01and I broke my back. It's like, yeah, you just can't.
- 10:05You just can't compire them to just yell at me. That would be scary.
- 10:11I can't tear that emotional. Yeah, I don't like, I'm sorry
- 10:16I yelled at you, Jamie when I tried to get through the story.
- 10:18Can we get past it? Shouldn't get past it. I'm a bit of
- 10:22an adhd myself. Well listen, well, I think we all are,
- 10:28or else we wouldn't be in this business, that's my guess. But really,
- 10:31I was calling out the Page six authors because they misinterpreted I mean you
- 10:37have to be careful. You say a hit. They said attack. Yeah.
- 10:41Oh oh, I thought in the article it said something about a hit,
- 10:43and it's like, no, they didn't. It wasn't a hit,
- 10:46right, Yeah, they don't know the mody. Page six. They biff
- 10:52it a lot. They it. Now let's move on to other news,
- 10:58and that is that there is some drama happening between Tom Sandoval's current girlfriend,
- 11:05Victoria Lee Robinson and Billy Lee. So apparently Billy Lee much story. I
- 11:15know Lee by jeans it's too much Lee. So I guess Billy Lee and
- 11:20Joe have a podcast, and so they on their podcast. You know,
- 11:28this is like there are clips from this. I'm trying to see where did
- 11:31I get Oh, you know who did a Bravo brands by Bravo actually did
- 11:35a little bullet point thing for us. Uh. That Billy Lee in this
- 11:39recap, she's not friends with Sandoval anymore. She said that he was sober
- 11:43for a while, but when she started dating Victoria, he started drinking heavily
- 11:46again, and that drugs allegedly were everywhere in the house and the house was
- 11:54a mess. Well big surprise on the mess of the house. Said that
- 11:56Tom was always depressed in Victoria call him all the time. Victoria accused Tom
- 12:01and Billy of sleeping together. Victoria wanted Arianna's stuff out of the house and
- 12:07called Logan to move her things so Tom could have the master. Well,
- 12:13let's call it primary, let's get up to date on that, and then
- 12:18Tom not being responsible, so she said they needed to do an intervention.
- 12:22And then I heard a clip where Billy Lee didn't invite victorially to the intervention,
- 12:30and so she's super pissed about that and really really mad. Billy Lee
- 12:33says it's the most dysfunctional, toxic relationship she's ever seen, and that Tom
- 12:41would go like he would be like, I'm sick all the time. I'm
- 12:43sick. I'm sick, I'm sick, and she's like, there's something wrong.
- 12:46You're not showing up for your business deals and like your businesses, your
- 12:50business stuff. And then Joe throughout this podcast, continues to interrupt billy Lee
- 12:56every time she tries to say something, and it's probably one of the most
- 13:01like she she'll be like, oh, yeah, I know this, I
- 13:03know this, I know this. Yeah yeah, oh yeah, I remember
- 13:05this. Oh wait, I didn't know that just constantly and it's it's rough.
- 13:09It's rough, full sloppy Joe getting in the conversations. Not a bit
- 13:16of additional information. Oh yeah, it's like a hype man. Yeah.
- 13:20Played to Billy Lee. She was a hype man. To Schwartz, it
- 13:26seemed too Yeah, he's the man. Okay, get away from me.
- 13:30Yeah. Oh god, I'll say that. Te'll sad. If you want
- 13:33to hear a clip of that, you can go to Bravos snark Side because
- 13:37they put up a long clip and that's where I heard it. Well,
- 13:43I think that's enough news for today because we got to get into this finale.
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- 15:00recap of the valley? Jamie? Are you talking to your kittens? They're
- 15:05both on the counter. I hate that get I put myself on pute but
- 15:11of course ignored me. I love it in the clean dishes, all right,
- 15:20well fuck it? Are you gonna do the water bottle thing? When
- 15:26they do that? Yeah? I need to do that, right? What
- 15:28do I need to get a couple of water bottles and just give them a
- 15:31little Yeah. I mean it's controversial. Some people be like, don't do
- 15:35that. It's water, but it's like it's you know, well, they're
- 15:39obsessed with water. When I was in the shower this morning, the boy,
- 15:41he's like, hello, what's this all about? Like always in my
- 15:45business, he like peeked it both sides of the curtain. I'm like,
- 15:48okay, boy, here, get out of here before air. Nasty boy,
- 15:54nasty little little peeping tom. All right, all right, all right,
- 16:00that's sort of the valley to date. We need to get into the
- 16:02business. I just like they were at Castaway first and foremost, because that's
- 16:06our go to spot for you know, a lot of group meals together.
- 16:10We've had that cauliflower and it is delicious, Garrett. Castaway is one of
- 16:15the most beautiful restaurants in the valley, and we go there for our events,
- 16:18as Amy said, and we've had the cauliflower that they were eating.
- 16:21We've eaten it. We have eaten it. And that crossover was great because
- 16:26they were even talking about Santa Clarita at Castaway. I'm familiar with Santa Clarita.
- 16:32I don't know if you are, but like Valencia. It's part of
- 16:34you know, I live in New Hall, There's Valencia. You know,
- 16:37there's all these different areas, but we won't go into that. So anyway,
- 16:41let's talk about britt BRIT's garden wall. What'd you guys think about it?
- 16:44Jackson's studio c bar that is when it fully developed into the bar.
- 16:48In my opinion, it had not truly flourished into a place of business until
- 16:55that wall was filled. Yes, it was really cute. And she was
- 17:00so nice to surprise him with his sister. Of course she does the most
- 17:03stoppful thing ever. That was so nice, so nice, what a good
- 17:08girl. And the sister was helping and the brother in law that was so
- 17:12like, this is family. It was cute as hell. And I love
- 17:15the wall. And this episode really had a lot of fun flashes of signs
- 17:21too. It was like like a shim woodman, Like they were showing a
- 17:23lot of the signs that we see every day driving around in the valley.
- 17:29Yeah, and I love how Brittany corrected Jackson. He was like, we've
- 17:32got a bar in Hollywood. He's like, now eats the violey. Someone
- 17:40told me that they don't actually own a bar. But they own a patio
- 17:42on the bar. Can someone confirm that? Is that a rumor? A
- 17:48patio on the bar? Someone said they like. Someone was like, yeah,
- 17:52I saw mine. I don't know. It was like a random Commentsone
- 17:55was like, they don't actually own the bar. They own like the giant
- 17:57patio around the bar are as like a like a pop up space they described
- 18:03it as. And I was like, is that true? I didn't know
- 18:06if you guys get by that. Remember Amy, when we went here and
- 18:08there were all those big tables, I was like, what like it is
- 18:11it is a big outdoor area, Garrett, I've not heard that by that.
- 18:17Yeah, but there is a bar outdoors on the patio. You know
- 18:21it's a covered patio. Sure. Sure. It looked amazing though for real,
- 18:25and I thought it was annoying as how when Jack's like thanked Brittany and
- 18:27it was and they're like, oh, and I'm like, fun, you
- 18:30didn't she doesn't. You don't let her in on anything, And now you're
- 18:33gonna be up on stage acting like the nice guy who can y good play,
- 18:37bro good play. He cannot, he cannot do anything right. I
- 18:41did like when his sister came in and when they were having that fight at
- 18:45the bar, like at the opening, and I just loved hearing another Midwest
- 18:48accent. She's like, I just don't understand. You guys were all fine
- 18:52me for you were friends, and I don't understand what happened, Like what
- 18:56happened? Yeah, it was funny to see girl Jack's It was awesome that
- 19:02nasally Michigan A was just exploding out and I was like, Wow, guys
- 19:10are all friends before? What do you guys have pop out here? You
- 19:12guys have pop Is this a pop up bar? Or is this a real
- 19:17bar on the patio Jack's Coming Jack Studio City Bar. I would love to
- 19:23know. I mean, I always am just wondering if they talked to the
- 19:27mom yet, Oh my god, that's what they would mention. How can
- 19:33we I've spoken of this Jack's as estranged from his mom because he blames his
- 19:41mom for not telling him how sick his dad was, and he's put all
- 19:45that blame on the mom, and so he doesn't speak to his mom.
- 19:48He didn't invite her to the wedding. And I just want to know if
- 19:52they've mended fences. They never bring it up. Holy shows, Really this
- 19:57digs deep because I haven't thought about that in a long time. You're right,
- 20:02I would wager to say he doesn't because she'd probably be at the opening.
- 20:07Yeah, I think it's in. I don't know. You know,
- 20:08you never hear about her, you know, mamma come to the visits.
- 20:15I don't know that we ever hear. Yeah, yeah, we only hear
- 20:18about Oh well, mamma wasn't there this time, which is unfortunately it comes
- 20:22to visit a lot and Britney's mom comes. Yeah, that's true, you're
- 20:26right, she does. I can't find my mamma clip. Oh well,
- 20:30I know, I was talking real slow, hoping you'd keep that. I
- 20:34was like, dang it, ma'amma clip. I don't know where it went.
- 20:38We all want it to so we're all like play it. But yeah,
- 20:48that was that sister was a good gift from Britney, and the bar
- 20:52looked spectacular. It really did make nice. Yeah. Yeah, I love
- 20:56when Schwartz came in and he's like, oh rustic, Bubba, rusty,
- 21:00no want to interrup thema, and Jackson's like, I will personally give you
- 21:04a tour. It's like, oh wow, thanks, So all right,
- 21:11well we let's just talk about first, let's talk about Jesse and Michelle okay
- 21:17and their official breakup. We find out that she broke up with Jesse officially
- 21:22three days after they wrapped filming, and then we have them and you know,
- 21:26much later on, she's coming over to pick up Isabella to take the
- 21:33child for her visitation, and he is, I know, Garrett, I
- 21:37thought of you. I was like, oh, I'm sure Garrett is just
- 21:38grinding his teeth over him, standing there in his home with his Scotch glass
- 21:44at what like ten in the morning. Yeah, and he had his loafers
- 21:48on, his pointy loafers, and his like his ankle length, you know,
- 21:52like suit pants on. And I'm just like, you're You're dressed like
- 21:56a guy no one can trust. Yeah, it's a huge wall. You're
- 22:03the last guy I would ever do business with. You look like you steal
- 22:07from orphanages your dad. So she's a villain. He is. He is
- 22:12a villain, But you know what, she's cold as ice. Oh man
- 22:18was those exchanges. I was like, we need to sign things so that
- 22:26we can get a divorce, so that I can move on and have a
- 22:32great life without someone like you who is a loser and I regret ever meeting
- 22:40you, so please won't sign it's true. And she never blinks. She
- 22:45like looks into his eyeballs when she says it. I love it. I'm
- 22:49not a one of this woman. And there was a moment. There was
- 22:55a moment at the bar opening. And I never do this, as Amy
- 22:59knows, I watched the show and I let it seep into my brain.
- 23:03I don't take notes. I took a note everyone. Twenty three ten.
- 23:08Okay, Jacks is up. Danny is standing next to Michelle and he's like,
- 23:15yay, good work, Jacks, and she goes like her ear was
- 23:22hurt by his talking, and she gives him the dirtiest look and she has
- 23:25the bitchest look on her face, and I go, oh, that's her,
- 23:29that's exactly right. I saw that too, crazy, Jamie you.
- 23:34I didn't make any notes about that, but I saw that, and I
- 23:37was like, what happened? Did he accidentally spit on her face? But
- 23:41her you know, her irritability towards him, like oh my god, my
- 23:45ear, and you're still I was like, oh, we can't hang out
- 23:49and I hate you. Yeah, that's how I felt. I was like,
- 23:53Oh, she's that bitch. That's right. She was like the way
- 23:59she looked, she didn't the cameras out of his way. She looked at
- 24:00him and then she put her hand up to her ear and he didn't even
- 24:03see it. She was just doing it because that's her. It was a
- 24:07it was a very honest moment where I was like, oh, I just
- 24:11I pinpointed it. I was like, sure, nailed it. That's such
- 24:14a great point. Those are the little moments that, like, when they
- 24:18keep filming and filming and filming, you get these moments that you don't expect,
- 24:22they don't think would be any kind of tell but it is a big
- 24:25deal. Yeah. Yeah, I mean if she was watching that back,
- 24:27I hope she was like, oh I didn't look so very nice right in
- 24:30that moment. I mean, Danny is also so lovable. He's like,
- 24:33yeah, you know, like if this is is what I mean. I
- 24:37don't like people like that. Yeah. Like if someone's celebrating a birthday at
- 24:40a table next to me at a restaurant, I'm yelling I'm happy for them,
- 24:44and I'm clapping. I'm not want to I joined into a birthday song
- 24:48like stat with the servers. I'll be like, come on, you guys
- 24:52look and then she said she would sit there and go okay, oh yeah,
- 25:00like oh yeah everyone wants or just that go away your car and drive
- 25:06awaybody check it out, check it out. Twenty three to ten. I
- 25:11can. I'm convinced that like the the area if you want to, like
- 25:17you know, TMZ is like the thirty mile zone around like Hollywood and stuff
- 25:21like that. I think like there's a radius that's not thirty miles, but
- 25:25maybe like a couple of blocks around the Chateau Marmont that is that will destroy
- 25:30your life. Like I don't think anyone in that vicinity has any kind of
- 25:33good life. I think their lives have been sold to the devil and they
- 25:37are in horrible marriages, bad divorces, terrible career choices, you know what
- 25:42I'm saying. Like, I just feel like that area of the of died
- 25:48right on the street less than a block from Chapteau Marmont, Well casey area,
- 25:53case and thank you Jamie Cason point and she's like, oh yeah,
- 25:57I live a couple you know, blocks away. That's great that she got.
- 26:00But I love that he was like, I'm not going to sign anything.
- 26:03I want to do it my way. He's obviously going to be putting
- 26:04up a lot of red tape for her to not make it easy. They
- 26:08have a mediator and that's all they need. But he's saying that he wants
- 26:11to file separately or do something different, and I'm like, you are such
- 26:15an asshole. You're just trying to gain control, you know. Yeah,
- 26:18that's true too. I mean I'm not a huge fan of his either,
- 26:21So it's not about woman bashing her. He is. Yeah, he's not
- 26:23gonna make this easy on her. He is not. He is not.
- 26:29And I feel so bad for their little girl. I hope they can really
- 26:33try to maintain some semblance of normality around her, because she's super cute and
- 26:40they obviously love her, and Jesse shows some humanity, and she obviously said,
- 26:45you know, I'm the one who's gonna have to say I left your
- 26:47father. She knows it hurts. So they're not monsters, you know,
- 26:52but they're they're also not the greatest. It's a perfect example of two people
- 26:57who when they see each other, they just bring out the worst in each
- 27:03other, and we get to see it on screen, which is great TV.
- 27:07Put in light that would be awful, But yeah, they when they're
- 27:11into each other, you can sell. They're locking horns so hard. I'm
- 27:14just like, well, this is just so much tension between you two and
- 27:18to see them. Yeah, she despises him. I think he likes her.
- 27:23I think he It's like the end of the War of the Roses,
- 27:26you know, the War of the Roses. The whole problem with with that
- 27:30movie for their relationship is Michael Douglas liked Kathleen Turner till the bitter end.
- 27:36And then they they all I hope it's no spoilers, that's movies thirty years
- 27:38old, but they they die at the end, and they they're on the
- 27:41chandelier and the chandelier drops and they're both about to die, and he puts
- 27:45his hand on her shoulder and then with his last dying breath and she goes
- 27:51and that's how the movie ends. And that's the thing he would take.
- 27:56He would take Michelle back in an instant. He loves her and she despises
- 28:02him, and there will never you know, it will never. Those two
- 28:06will never get back together. They will have the most cantankerous, contentious relationship
- 28:10for the rest of their fucking lives. We were laughing because There was a
- 28:14moment where Jesse goes, I just want things to go be like the way
- 28:17they used to be in April twenty twenty, and me, I was like,
- 28:21in the saddest time in human history. Yeah, the saddest months he's
- 28:26ever lived as a species. You were at your happiest with her. Doesn't
- 28:33that speak to you, buddy, that your ladyship was born in a dark
- 28:36omen. Yes. Here every day people were dying by the hundreds of thousands.
- 28:41Yeah, I was on cloud nine. We were all terrified, crying,
- 28:48freaking out. Yeah, probably because no one could go anywhere, and
- 28:51he had ultimate control over her and the situation, right, and she hadn't.
- 28:56She hadn't come to like be like, oh he's an asshole? Right
- 29:00fully got there yet? Yeah? Yeah, it's just wild. There's a
- 29:06lot of narrative spinning in this episode, and she was doing it too.
- 29:10I'm finally finding my voice. I'm like, no, I feel like she's
- 29:12always been bitchy to him, Like I can't imagine. I don't see her
- 29:17being meek and demure. But the even more telling h spin comes later with
- 29:23Brittany and Jacks. Obviously, I love when she called him out, Oh,
- 29:26my god. I also do think like to the point you're making,
- 29:30which is that this was an episode of women not standing for men's bullshit,
- 29:34which was very empowering for women and for women, And like, I just
- 29:41think that it's great to see because we've seen Jesse ban asshole, I feel
- 29:45like we don't know a lot about him and what he was like behind closed
- 29:49doors in April of twenty twenty. That's beautiful. I'm trusting that he is
- 29:56like a much bigger a hole than we've even been gun to be able to
- 30:00see for her to be so disgusted by him, but like, it's very
- 30:06interesting to see two women be like I'm not taking it anymore. And that's
- 30:10that it makes you realize Like when they started this show, she clearly was
- 30:14like I'm just going to get through filming and then it's going to be over.
- 30:18Like why would they sign up for this? Yeah? I found that
- 30:22interesting. That was the part that I was like, oh, like,
- 30:25did you just use him for the season to kind of like hmm, because
- 30:30because you want to be on TV or his money I don't really know.
- 30:33Like, yeah, I thought that same thing. I was like, why
- 30:36wait so long? Because there was a theme in the show too, of
- 30:38like each woman kind of mentioned who's gone through this and like kind of broke
- 30:41away from like the toxic relationship they all kind of did of like what was
- 30:47I waiting for? Or like why did I wait so long? There was
- 30:48a few people, you know, I think Britney said it, and then
- 30:52I forget one of the other girls said it that I don't remember, but
- 30:55it was like, yeah, I don't know, why did you wait so
- 30:56long? Right? Well, I think you brought up a new point.
- 31:00It is for money, and it's for notoriety and it's for business. It's
- 31:03like, we can sell more houses if we're on a TV show. Shall
- 31:07we do this well? Our marriage and as shambles. We don't have to
- 31:10show them that we can be really good about it. It's like you know
- 31:12what I mean, It's it's conversations behind closed doors and in this town where
- 31:18you can't afford any fucking thing, any of us, It's like, oh,
- 31:22Robo wants to do a show, Let's push this under the rug a
- 31:23little bit and see if we can pull this out, Like I honestly believe
- 31:26that. And and then but the problem, this is what we love about
- 31:30the valley the three of us have talked about it. They don't understand what
- 31:34they're on and so we are actually seeing real shit happen and we're also seeing
- 31:41the fake moments. Everything is very clear on this show because they don't yet
- 31:45know how to navigate reality TV. Yeah, it makes me wonder if Jesse
- 31:49really did genuinely think they were going to get back together. I think he
- 31:53did. I do. I think he did. Okay, so you do
- 31:56think do you think he did think they were going to get back together?
- 31:59Garrett? Yes, I did, Yeah, and then it seemed like he
- 32:01was He seemed truly blindsided, like in that man. I was like,
- 32:06I was like, well, you're dumb for not seeing it coming, but
- 32:09you definitely seemed blindsided, which is sad. But yeah, so that does
- 32:14make me question her more about her intentions for doing the show, because he
- 32:17probably was like, we can do we can work through our marriage problems on
- 32:21the show, but ultimately I believe we're going to get back together, whereas
- 32:23she was like, we'll do the show, but we're not getting back together.
- 32:29Was question to actually say on camera I'm divorcing you three days later,
- 32:35Like do you respect that or not? I mean, I have a level
- 32:37of respect for that. I didn't think about that that way. I didn't
- 32:42either. I didn't either. That was a good point. Now you've stumped
- 32:45us both whatever. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe I don't
- 32:49have all the answers. Well, part of me is like, you know,
- 32:52she definitely seems to want to get her brand up a little bit and
- 32:55is using TV because she was like you know, she was sexting folks those
- 33:00with like John lovetts or whoever it was, and like that's the latest.
- 33:04That's the rumor I'm starting. I couldn't was John LOVETTZ I would ship a
- 33:08dick. That'd be amazing. That's great. Hell yeah, girl will go
- 33:15for it. Another text and this great real agent. Imagine John Lovett is
- 33:24on the Valley in season two. That would he's like, he looks like
- 33:29Randall. He actually looks a lot like Randall. Yeah, love it s
- 33:32and Randall have a similar JOWB line, bring the drama, love it.
- 33:37Oh, that would be an amazing season. But yeah, it's just like,
- 33:39so maybe she was just upping her brand and just like, hey,
- 33:43I need to be on TV for the season. Pal. I don't know.
- 33:45I do have a question about their past. Usually actors in LA only
- 33:52become real estate agents because they're not making it in the world of you know,
- 33:57acting and modeling. So my guess would be that they were both actors
- 34:01and that this is why they can do this on camera. Have you ever
- 34:06imdbat them? No? Yes, you know it's either actors or some sort
- 34:12of entertainment, you know what I mean, they definitely wanted to do something.
- 34:15I know there's been stuff in the I was just gonna say, but
- 34:20I don't know auditions. There's been auditions of other casts, you know,
- 34:25like doing other things, trying to be on screen and on something. So
- 34:29I wonder if they were out there trying to do that. Also, there
- 34:31are things as such as famous realtors now, like you can be just famous
- 34:37for being That's that's really a good point because it's not what Jamie, what
- 34:43did you discover? Oh? I just looked up the last name, and
- 34:49three hours ago, page six posted an article The Valley Star. Jesse Lally
- 34:53says he had an affair with Anna Nicole Smith, whoa what year, oh,
- 35:00twenty twenty of April with Anna Nicole Smith after meeting in two thousand and
- 35:12two for a trim Spot campaign. Oh see, he was an actor.
- 35:17He was part of a trip spot campaign. Oh my, dad's yeah,
- 35:22he's got long hair. He looks like Jacks. He kind of looks like
- 35:28Andy Cohen there. He said. They hooked up for a year or two.
- 35:34They're all they're all revolving around entertainment in some sort of way. And
- 35:37I am Cosmack. Oh my, he's the guy. Oh my god,
- 35:44a darling. Watchers and listeners look this up. Pictures of him and Nicole
- 35:50in the actual trim Spot ad holding Anna Nicole Smith on his back. He's
- 35:55the guy. I can't believe that's him. It doesn't even look like him,
- 36:00it doesn't. But they both look fucking fantastic and that amazing. Wow.
- 36:07Wow. Garrett is really impressed with that ad. I am dude,
- 36:12she was a global icon. Oh I know. I love Anna Nicole Smith
- 36:16all right, man, I loved her too. And it looks like Jesse
- 36:22Lally now has a girlfriend. Anne Michelle has a girlfriend. I'm not boyfriend.
- 36:29I want to ask her about her new boyfriend. I would love to
- 36:31meet the new boyfriend. I wonder if we will see him. I'm assuming,
- 36:36by the way, so Jax has been, you know, putting stuff
- 36:39out there. First of all, he was like, everyone needs to listen
- 36:42to my podcast this week. Hashtag just saying, and then another thing he
- 36:47put out there, hashtags aren't working that way for you anymore? Dude?
- 36:52Are those aren't driving up traffic? Go on? I don't know. Yeah,
- 36:58what are you doing? Hashtag divorce social media. That's how we know
- 37:05that he wrote that and not his social media person. Absolutely no one uses
- 37:09hashtags like that anymore, you dummy man. I love that. He also
- 37:16accused Brittany in one of his posts about He's like, maybe you should ask
- 37:22her about who she's been sleeping with for the past four months, and good
- 37:25for her. The entire world goes yay, Yeah, We're all like,
- 37:31get it, girl. We asked those questions, Jacks because we're rejoicing that
- 37:36she's with someone new bud. That's why. Because we're so happy, we
- 37:39will ask her over and over and she'll scream it from the rooftop. She's
- 37:44doing a new dude, bud. And I don't believe that anyway. Necessarily.
- 37:49I think that's what he would do. He would make up a lie,
- 37:52he he when she called him out at the end and she's like,
- 37:55you only getting help because you're doing this for the cameras. And I was
- 37:59like, yes, she's right. Why And I remember back when this first
- 38:05came up, Amy, we were on a podcast here was I can't remember
- 38:08one of the other darlings Deanna or any any Emily, but but I can't
- 38:14remember. But anyway, what we said was why did she have to leave
- 38:16the house right up? And and I love that. She was like,
- 38:21you took my safe space. You made me uproot with my kid because he
- 38:23said I'm not leaving and that is the asshole that he is. That drove
- 38:30me into a rage when I saw that. I was like, how dare
- 38:32you do that to your son? Your son like, dude, you leave,
- 38:38that's how it works. Yes, oh I thought that was And then
- 38:45Jesse, you know, didn't they say like he was at there was like
- 38:49they've mentioned two of them were like they didn't leave or something like that,
- 38:52Like I think it was Jesse. Yeah, she mentioned it. She was
- 38:55like, yeah, he wouldn't leave you. Then I'm like, yeah,
- 38:57they'll never leave, the never change. I did love that she broke the
- 39:02fourth wall and said like be real, be real, Like you know what
- 39:07I mean it's and she was like, I don't even know what to say
- 39:10in my own bedroom. That was wild. He was locked up when she
- 39:15was like, after these cameras are dropped, you're gonna rage text me and
- 39:17go blah blah blah. She gave the strategy history and you could see in
- 39:21his eyes he was like, you're doing your saying too many things right.
- 39:24And I was like, yeah, she got you. I was shocked that
- 39:27he actually was giving us a tell in his face like, oh my god,
- 39:30I can't believe she's like calling me out. She's talking about the behaviors
- 39:35behind the scenes. I love it. I love it too. It love
- 39:38it. Before we continue talking more about Jackson, Brittany, I need to
- 39:44ask you guys a really important question. Did you get night dog food for
- 39:47Malibu? Did you? I've asked you this. I probably texted you guys
- 39:53a bunch of times. Did you get the supplies you need for needs?
- 39:58I told you, did you at the night night food got the dog?
- 40:01Yes? I got the night food from my dog, of course I did.
- 40:06I ordered it from the Nighttime dog food store and it came at nighttime
- 40:10and I will feed it to my dog at nighttime. I used to sleep
- 40:16and a Smith, and I slept Smith at nighttime, so I know about
- 40:23nighttime food because I use trim Spa, which is why I have these abs
- 40:30in the first place. I don't eat at nighttime. But Malibu douts.
- 40:35Also the name, the name Malibu for a dog speaks volumes for their relationship.
- 40:40That's the worst name for a dog. Don't name it Malibu. Also,
- 40:45there was a there was one where they were like, yeah, we
- 40:49go to Italy all the time, we hang out, like they called it
- 40:51like cook preche or oh yeah something. I was like, don't say that.
- 40:55I was just like, don't call it cook tree, sir. And
- 40:59I was just like, you guys are awful, nag awful. Everyone here,
- 41:02says Capri. You're saying something else. Don't say it every Yeah,
- 41:06they just it's so pretentious. Your dog's name is Elbou. That's so basic.
- 41:12And then also Kristin the only thing we saw when Christen's like, I
- 41:15gotta get out of town, I was like, oh my god, she's
- 41:17gonna leave in the middle of this finale and we're never gonna see her again.
- 41:21Thank god. She stuck around and did a scene over at brit BRIT's
- 41:23but and we got to see that she got she's like going off to Miami
- 41:28during filming because they don't have her in any of the scenes anymore. And
- 41:30she's getting air sculpt done, which was interesting, and she's draining and Zach
- 41:35got fat on him and that was something. And then Zach has a boyfriend,
- 41:38so that's exciting. But back to back to Jackson Brittany. So we,
- 41:45like you said, Jamie, we got a lot of and Garrett when
- 41:47you said this was kind of like a reunion because we got updates on Jesse
- 41:52and Michelle obviously and where they are. And then of course Brittany and Jack's
- 41:55knowing that like after they filmed, I don't know how soon soon after that
- 42:00she like left the house. It had to have been I think it was
- 42:02four months. I want to say, wasn't it so her having to leave
- 42:08and go get an airbnb because he would not go, and then her talking
- 42:14about him. She's like, why aren't you changing? Why haven't you gotten
- 42:16to therapist? And he's like, I made an appointment and she's like,
- 42:21well when and he's like when did you make that appointment? He's like yesterday.
- 42:24She's like, oh when they picked up filming. That was insane,
- 42:29that was gold. Yeah, and then he's not gonna go. And then
- 42:32he's like, I didn't go, and you remember the reason? It was
- 42:36too far? Oh guess where it was? Malibu? Did you get the
- 42:42night food from Malibu? Imagine one day his son's like, Dad, why'd
- 42:45you? And mom? Like how the family split? I mean, like
- 42:49what happened at that crossroads all those years ago? And he's like, you
- 42:51know, I could have went to therapy, but it was just like a
- 42:52forty minute drive. You know what, Garrett, With all due respect,
- 42:57it is tough in La. I'll give that one to Jack. For sure.
- 43:00Are really far and it's a real pain in the ass to get to
- 43:01Malibu from anywhere. So you know what, I'm gonna go with Jacks on
- 43:05this one. And then to start a new family. You know, it's
- 43:08fine that family, Dude, They have these all over the place. Forty
- 43:13minutes for out of town dude. Families ain't worth that. What an asshole?
- 43:17Did you? Guys? Hear when he said the one truest thing,
- 43:22but I still know he doesn't believe it, but he goes, maybe I'm
- 43:25just not cut out for it, and he's not because of his narcissism.
- 43:30I've met men like him in the past. They don't change, Like,
- 43:34he's not cut out for family life unless he really puts some work in,
- 43:38and he's not willing to put the work in. I mean, if he
- 43:42couldn't make it work with her, she is the most genial, kind,
- 43:47easygoing person, laughing at his stupid jokes, everything, wanting a nice day
- 43:52every day, she constantly smiling. He can't make it. He yells and
- 43:57rage, texts and screams at her, and even like with Sassy, who
- 44:00I think he respected more than he respects Brittany, he still cheats like he
- 44:07just can't not be how he is. And it's really sad because he when
- 44:14he said that, I thought, gosh, I wish I could believe him
- 44:15because he's saying the truth. He probably isn't cut out for it, but
- 44:20I still don't even think he believes what he says. And he's trying to
- 44:22look sympathetic for the camera. Yeah, he was like, I need help,
- 44:27I bury my emotions, and she's like, you don't bury your emotions.
- 44:30I buy your emotions. Like you're yelling all the dad to hear that
- 44:35he's just like yelling at her constantly in front of cruise, you know.
- 44:38And in that last interview when the producer was like, you canceled the therapy
- 44:45session, He's like, yeah, I cancel all it was too far,
- 44:47right. He looks different in the face, and I look, I'm just
- 44:53saying I think you know what I'm saying, right, Are you reading between
- 44:59the lines pieces together for me? Well, he's had erratic behavior. He's
- 45:05yelling a lot. Yeah, I'm thinking that something is going on by way
- 45:08of you know, perhaps he's coping, using things to cope allegedly and maybe
- 45:14back to his old ways of you know, doing something that perhaps is not
- 45:17a good idea to do as a fan partying or something yet too hard.
- 45:22You know, these people got their fame because of a bar, and they
- 45:28are getting their demise because of a bar. Oh Dan, That is deep.
- 45:34Honestly, this is a deep episode. Everyone's got very nuanced points here.
- 45:39Damn. I want you to be the most listen to podcasts. Every
- 45:44darling, reach out to another darling. Yes, everyone needs to hear this.
- 45:49This is some good shit deep. It's so funny, you know,
- 45:52because like it was that moment where they always cut back to it where Schwartz
- 45:55is like, you're going to be living with me pretty soon, buddy boy.
- 45:59And you can see when Jackson he goes, don't say that, like
- 46:01he doesn't want it set out loud because he knows. He's like, I
- 46:05bet you yet, which is so weird to me because they act like opening
- 46:08a bar and running a bar is like being the president of the United States
- 46:13or something. It's like, dude, it's just a business. Fucking it's
- 46:15a patio bar, pop up dog like, calm down, Like, why
- 46:20is it that hard? Like I'm running a business. I'm like, yeah,
- 46:24we all run. So he's got all this other stuff and he names
- 46:29he continues to list why he's so stressed out, and I'm like, this
- 46:34is life, buddy, this is stuff. We all have these things,
- 46:37dude, we all have these things. And I love when she was like,
- 46:39I'm the I'm for the breadwinner. He doesn't like that I make money,
- 46:44and and it's just you know, she has found her voice. I
- 46:46love it. It's like a light switch finally clicked on for her. And
- 46:50there she thinks she's she thinks he's you know, in a lot of ways,
- 46:54her Michelle very similar. They're just like I married a loser. I
- 46:59have to deal with it now because of my kid, and I'll do it,
- 47:01but I would rather have my peace. And that's what they're that's the
- 47:05one thing those two definitely have in common in this moment. I you know,
- 47:09I have to hand it to Brittany. I never would have thought that
- 47:12she would be able to, you know, do this, but she has
- 47:15shown a lot of strength, and it's so impressive. It's because of the
- 47:20kids. I remember seeing you again a long time ago. Like a lot
- 47:22of times, I've seen kids bring people together when they're partners, and I've
- 47:28also seen kids cause the demise of the relationship because generally speaking, the men
- 47:35can't handle it. They don't step up, and the women say, then
- 47:37leave. Let me just handle the list on my own. It's much easier
- 47:40without us fighting. I can do this schedule, and I could do the
- 47:44pickups, and I could do all this without you in my ear talking dumb
- 47:47shit. And so the women take the kids, and you know, obviously
- 47:52mostly the men would leave and the women raise the kids. And that's what
- 47:54happens with those relationships. You know, he seems to yell a lot,
- 48:00and he's yelling at her all the time around Cruise, and that's really disturbing.
- 48:04And then that was disturbing to see because we get that flashback where he
- 48:07was like, act like a mom, you know, and he was holding
- 48:09Cruise and it's just like, God, don't do that in front of your
- 48:13child. And then you've got little Isabella in the room when Jesse and Michelle
- 48:17are arguing about divorce, and I'm thinking, and there's cameras and I just
- 48:22kept thinking, this is so traumatic for her. It's really hard to compartmentalize
- 48:25watching these shows when there are children involved and they're filming and they're in the
- 48:30room for this trauma, and you're like, I can't bear this because you
- 48:35know it's so bad. Divorce is so hard on kids. I mean,
- 48:38it's obviously a main issue with most people who grow up is their parents and
- 48:44their relationship. Yeah, of course, of course. Yeah, it's the
- 48:51worst thing that can happen to a kid. I'm lucky because my parents got
- 48:53divorced. But what's nice is they were friendly. But I think when like,
- 49:00if my mom or my dad would have said something mean about the other
- 49:05because they were both my heroes, that would have ended me the nicest thing
- 49:08they ever did was speak nicely about each other. Wow, if they were
- 49:13both my heroes. So if my dad and me your mom did this and
- 49:15that, I'd have been like what, like a lot of stuff about their
- 49:19marriage. I didn't even learn until I was an adult. They just always
- 49:22presented. But they were friends. You know. Found out that your dad
- 49:25opened a bar in the valley and that's it. But you know, again,
- 49:30this Jack's thing. I don't think I'll be out. I might go
- 49:31out on a limb. Hear you too, But I don't think that opening
- 49:34that bar has anything to do with this. I think this would have happened
- 49:37regardless. I think the opening of the bar actually was maybe a little bit
- 49:39fun for them, and they almost were getting along over certain things, and
- 49:45she did a lot of it and they had a lot of fun with it.
- 49:46So I don't even think that's the problem here. I think that was
- 49:50a problem in other places, but not necessarily here. Well again, like
- 49:54you know that when that clip plays and he's like you want to have more
- 49:58kids, act like a mom and so, and I'm like, there is
- 50:00so much alcohol involved in this, and I'm like, what do you guys
- 50:02do? Just get drunk at your pool and freaking get crazy like fight.
- 50:07That's insane. That's not the way you said spending your afternoons. Yeah,
- 50:12it's just weird, man, You've been telling that moment there's they're arguing next
- 50:15to a sliding door wall. That only happens when you're drunk at a pool,
- 50:20you know what I mean? That moment. I'm like, there's some
- 50:22they've been out in the sun all day, they're fucking fizzed at each other.
- 50:29I've been in a couple long enough I know when this is a drunken
- 50:31afternoon filmed with pisson vinegar. Yeah. Yeah, they're both just like drunk,
- 50:38and I'm just like, stop with this, both of you, Like,
- 50:42don't involve that because it seems like they both that also brings out the
- 50:45worst in them. Yes, I don't know. Well, he's just so
- 50:50fucking pissy all the time. Yeah pants And she said that's the other thing.
- 50:55And she said that he was at the bar all the time with like
- 50:58a hangover, and then he would come and so I was like, exactly,
- 51:01you just said it was like the bar is the demise. He can't
- 51:05even stop partying at the bar. That's your business. Why are you partying
- 51:08while you're haven't you ever seen bar rescue jacks? You want them to come
- 51:14out after that diaper changing incident. I think they're well on their way go
- 51:22into the restroom. Are we going to get into this Janet thing a little
- 51:27bit? Oh yeah, shit, okay, yeah, Zach and Janet,
- 51:30let's talk about that. Whoa? Wow was now? Wow? That was
- 51:34like a tempest that just want to know. It was like a hurricane.
- 51:37It was all kinds of storms coming together. WHOA. I couldn't exactly understand
- 51:42why Zach was upset until I realized, Yes, she did do something that
- 51:45I also hate. Don't have me on speakerphone. Yeah that should be illegal.
- 51:54Yeah, yeah, that should be illegal. It should be illegal.
- 51:59That's some Kanye and Kim with Taylor Swift type. Yeah that is. You
- 52:02don't do that, dude. You're on speakers and there was no song involved,
- 52:07so it's not even worth anything. Yeah. Yeah, we just get
- 52:10like shitty little confessionals from Janet. But like she look I first of all,
- 52:17I will say, Zach did pop off a little too early and he
- 52:22really went there way too fast, way too quick, and that that's on
- 52:27him. That's on him, and I wish I could take his side,
- 52:30but WHOA. Like my guy was, He's like, I just want to
- 52:36be at my bar having a good time, like and he's just like got
- 52:39his face contorted, insane, ready to go. I just love it his
- 52:45faces and the movie face was like, I was like, whoa, when
- 52:47he's turned up, his face can contort the things I've never seen. I
- 52:52would say, it's like it's like head neck face choreography. I don't know,
- 52:57he's got like goes up, stiff neck, comes up and chinned down.
- 53:00Here you're good, Yeah, yeah, I was. It's a he's
- 53:06got a wild just when he's mad. Yeah, so what did you make
- 53:09of that? I thought it was just insane and just you're making this all.
- 53:14It was like it was fight after a fight, and he was like,
- 53:15now you said on the couch, now you I was like, he's
- 53:20fighting with the other couch. And then Janet's husband steps up, and I
- 53:22was like, that's the first time I ever saw him get mad. He
- 53:25looked like he might have been a little tipsy too, but yeah, you
- 53:29know, he did the right he but it was kind of half assed.
- 53:31He did the right thing. By second sick enough for his wife but it
- 53:35was kind of like, don't tugged him my way. I was like,
- 53:37all right, he was real calm about it. Yeah, you know that
- 53:40that that Zach got way too hot. I think jazz And is maybe a
- 53:45little tipsy. She was real upset, but you know again, let's get
- 53:50to the underlying thing. Yeah, you you phase us out of filming.
- 53:53You're fucking with our money. That's right, you know what I mean.
- 53:55And I'm sure Kristen feels the same. And it was kind of cool to
- 54:01watch Janet get a little bit of her come up. And just when Janne
- 54:05goes I go home and cry, I'm like, do you yeah, I
- 54:07don't think so. I'm going to wait to go home and cry. It's
- 54:12like you've never shed a single tear in your life. You have no tear
- 54:15there. Unless she's really good at hiding it. I don't think she.
- 54:17I think she goes home and goes fuck damn. Most pregnant women are crying
- 54:22all the time. I don't know how she's doing. It's like having the
- 54:23reverse effect on her. Yeah, and interesting. And then Jackson is like,
- 54:29I'm going to go handle this, and she's like, hang on,
- 54:30I'm pregnant and and you know, but but she seems pretty. I mean,
- 54:37she got called to the mat in this episode, and the camera and
- 54:39the editors decided to go ahead and show it too. He showed it.
- 54:45So I appreciated that. Yeah, I appreciated that was it Zach who said,
- 54:49who said this, this is what she does and now we can watch
- 54:53it on camera, this is what she does without the cameras. Who said,
- 54:59Zach, yeah, that was deep. He called her a mean girl,
- 55:01you know, he was like this, she's got classic moves, classic
- 55:05mean girl moves. He knows, he's been around it. Yeah, and
- 55:08she really like for her to hold that again, Zach by saying, like,
- 55:14on that conversation, I was going to invite you. It's like,
- 55:16Fitch, don't do me any favors. You didn't invite me to begin with.
- 55:20And then what is the real story. Did she send Jacks to tell
- 55:23them that they're not invited? Because as sure as heck, sounds like it,
- 55:27because at this point, I'm kind of believing Jack's over her. Yeah,
- 55:30I think she did, and and I think that she you know,
- 55:34I understand she's trying to remain calm. She is pregnant, and I appreciate
- 55:37that she does have to be careful, you know, she doesn't want to
- 55:39pop off or anything. But I do think that she also got called out
- 55:45and she didn't like that. Yeah, the jig was up. And then
- 55:49Kristen was like, this is all her, But what I do You don't
- 55:52remember in the episode when Christin was like, I misspoke, my words got
- 55:55jobbed. Oh my god, what are you? I can't believe I didn't
- 56:00even write that down. I missspoke or whatever. She said. She's like,
- 56:06I said, she's had a boyfriend for a year. What I met
- 56:07was a year ago. She sent a picture to someone. I'm like,
- 56:09that's a huge misspoke. I mean, that really did flush the toilet on
- 56:15some of her validity right there, because I thought, oh god, no,
- 56:19wonder like they kind of close her off because that's for crazy talk,
- 56:23Like that's nuts. That was a mistake. We're all waiting for the reveal
- 56:28of Michelle to have this boyfriend, you know, I mean, at least
- 56:30I was. I mean, I was expecting more to come out of that
- 56:34and it didn't. Know. It just turns out she fucking hates Jesse.
- 56:37But you know, but there was a hilarious part with Luke in the bar
- 56:40to where like they were Luke over here, and he goes, no,
- 56:44no, I got to keep christening to my eye line and I died at
- 56:46it. I was like, when you have to treat your spouse like a
- 56:50wolf, like a like a fairal cat that you got to keep in your
- 56:57eye line in case they run off like a while toddler or something. Dude,
- 57:00think about that, But think about are any of the other husbands having
- 57:05to keep people in their eye lines, in their eyelights. It's always hunting
- 57:09season for Luke, you know, he's got to make sure he's got something
- 57:14there. He's not vishing, he's hunting. That's right, hunting gathering,
- 57:20that's what he does. All right, Well, is there anything else?
- 57:23Gosh? And I feel like I should ask you guys one more time?
- 57:27Do you did you get Malibu's food? Yes, trying to tell you I
- 57:39wanted to know, And then she's like, can we make a list?
- 57:44It's very simple. All of a sudden, he's got some long island accent.
- 57:49He's like, we've got contracts ones that, uh, we don't have
- 57:52anymore missions that we split when not doing anymore. I was like, who
- 58:00are you? And she was like, just tell people we don't work together
- 58:06and that will be the end. Everyone understands. And he's just like,
- 58:07whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, I gotta get a lawyer to
- 58:10talk that over. It's like, Bud, this is over. She's not
- 58:15coming back. She doesn't even want to be your business partner. Jesse,
- 58:21Oh lord, I love it, light love it. What a season?
- 58:25What a what a what a finale. The whole time I'm watching the finale,
- 58:30I'm like, this is such good TV. It's just keeps going,
- 58:34every second filled with just good TV. And I send my sincere love to
- 58:40all of them. And in many ways, I think there was a lot
- 58:44of you know, hard moments. And I'm gonna move out to that house.
- 58:51Did they do you think they've made a decision on that Santa Clarita home
- 58:54with the twins. I don't know, like they she's still debating back and
- 58:59forth. I don't know. I hope you run into them. That's why
- 59:00I bringe out, God, I really do. Valencia is so close to
- 59:04me, and I mean I'm gonna I imagine they'll probably be at Whole Foods.
- 59:07I'll try and track them down. I mean, you've put the whole
- 59:09area on the map, so you know, you kind of run it all.
- 59:13I think you should run for city council Women of Santa Claria. Thank
- 59:16you very much. I have one more question for y'all. It was on
- 59:21my mind. Oh yeah, do you why do we think, now that
- 59:24we've seen the finale, why do we think they cabachhed the reunion? Is
- 59:28it because it's too sad? Is it because it's too contentious? Is it
- 59:32because the show is so good that they don't want a reunion to further fracture
- 59:37things. They want us all to retreat, not let them know, not
- 59:42let them have the grid of a reunion, so we could get back to
- 59:44filming sooner. These are all thoughts that were on my mind. I think
- 59:46those are all great points. I honestly my first thought. Now I'm kind
- 59:52of going with what you're saying, But my first thought was because this was
- 59:55such a new show, they didn't have it in the budget to have any
- 59:59reunions. So because they didn't know how I was going to do, I
- 1:00:01don't think they realized that it was going to pop off like it did,
- 1:00:06and so one would think once it was popping off and they happened very early
- 1:00:09in the season where people were nuts about it that they would have included a
- 1:00:14reunion and just tacked it on, but perhaps with programming and all that stuff,
- 1:00:17it was too late. These shows often not have reunions. Some of
- 1:00:23the other shows you do, like just Below Deck happens Below Deck has like
- 1:00:27Watch what Happens Live reunion, so they're really shoved into like that. Those
- 1:00:30are on Zoom. But before like Southern Charm, didn't have reunions for a
- 1:00:36little while. Those were in the clubhouse as a Watch what Happens Live episode,
- 1:00:39And the only recent thing that's happened was obviously New York had canceled their
- 1:00:45reunion when that was during the during COVID, But Jersey has now canceled their
- 1:00:51reunion, as you know. I can't wait to figure out what that's about.
- 1:00:54Jersey is also so good right now. Well, Andy, he did
- 1:01:00speak to it and said that, and you said you said that that checks
- 1:01:02out. Which is it that the finale is actually like so epic that there
- 1:01:09is no need for a reunion and that's why. So about what's her name?
- 1:01:15I hate to do this. I know we're trying to wind up,
- 1:01:16but what's the name of the gal who's married to Fuda Rachel Rachel. The
- 1:01:21way she talked to Teresa at that brunch was inconceivable. I love that no
- 1:01:28one steps to the queen like that bitch. I was like whoa, Yeah,
- 1:01:34that was like whoa. I loved it. I was like, this
- 1:01:37is we need more of this, and I love that. Teresa's like all
- 1:01:40right, and then Delores is like that's gonna fester. Yeah. In twenty
- 1:01:45four the first this is the word in the first forty eight hours, the
- 1:01:50first forty eight and you're going to get the rest sleep with one eye open,
- 1:01:52you know. It's like it's so good. Yeah, that was so
- 1:01:57good and it's been fire yep. Well, thank you Valley for a great
- 1:02:00frin. I love when Jamie does her sign offs to like the production,
- 1:02:05to the people, to the characters. I love the truck, you know,
- 1:02:08in the truck and behind the scenes. Like Jamie is a director,
- 1:02:14she's an actor, she's a writer, like you know, she knows all
- 1:02:16facets of production. So this is like her way of sending it up.
- 1:02:20You know, she's sending it up. And I love it. When they
- 1:02:22finished the parade on Thanksgiving, you gotta give, like yeah, we just
- 1:02:25want to thank everyone. They were amazing this year though, the editors everyone
- 1:02:31making Jacks look like an idiot. So everybody followed jam Detroit on Instagram and
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