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The Valley Recap plus Dish on Monica, BravoCon, Billboards and more! · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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Drama Darling. Drama Darling, Drama Darling. Hello, everybody, welcome back.
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It's Drama Darling. Happy Thursday. Today is the Valley Day. Emily
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Desis is here. Hi Ems, Hello, how are you? I'm great.
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I love your sweatshirt. Your Emily is donning a Drama Darling sweatshirt.
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Not for sale, so there's no hashtag ads here, guys. We just
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show you a product and move on. I mean maybe one day. I
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think, certainly, one day we'll get there. I'm celebrating coming up on
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a year in May, if you can believe it, of this podcast,
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and I'll be making some exciting changes and some weeks to this and the and
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the Patreon. So I'm looking forward to, you know, getting getting to
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that and sharing that. That's I'll share with you closer to the day.
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That'll be very fun. But certainly we will be selling those sweatshirts at some
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point. You know, I know you can buy this one, darlings,
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chime in, We're gonna auction off this one. Auction tell me, I
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mean, if we could donate it to the next be a match organization gala
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and see how much money they can get for that, that would be fun.
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And we could all take bets and twenty twenty dollars going on seven dollars.
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Oh, it's going down. Not a great donation for this charity.
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Okay, okay, so Emily, we do have a little bit of dish
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dish. What is with your microphone? It's like it sounds like I don't
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know, uh like sounds like that table. I'm gonna doing your own sound
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effects. Sound effects, guys, the timpany is really effective. You're so
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jealous of my sound effects. You're like, I need to do some on
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my side. This is not fair. Oh, I'm gonna get a sound
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board. I'm totally doing. Oh my god, do it. Actually,
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I would love it if you did. Are you kidding? Listeners are like,
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you know what, not so much. They're like, are these the
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changes that you're making in the new podcast more sound effects? Well, first
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off, I am loving that we're seeing that. Monica Garcia from the Real
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Housewives of Soot Lake City is on the Vile Files podcast this week. They
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released a little trailer of her on it, and she brings out the Burn
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Book, the Wah Wah Burn Book from the Reunion and apparently it looks like
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it's gonna be a banger of an episode. So well, yeah, I
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saw something who maybe queens of Bravo said, we'll all be talking about this
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as soon as it's over, like it's going to be a big one wow,
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and say some stuff. Oh, she's gonna mention it all. So
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also, I don't know why I chose to put this news second, but
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whatever, moms Coo Garcia is important. So the second piece of news is
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that there's no Bravo on in twenty twenty four. Oh, I thought you're
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about to do the airhorns. I know, okay, but because I'm we're
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both sad about that. Yeah, we're trying to be We're trying to say
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it in an excited way so we can all get ready for twenty twenty five.
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Twenty twenty five, November fourteenth through sixteen. So this is exciting.
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It gives us a year to reboot, you know, recalibrate. And I
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don't know about you, but I feel like, you know, if you've
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done it three years in a row, I think it's time to step back.
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And I think doing it every other year is a great idea, to
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be honest with you, Yeah, I think it's the heart grow fonder and
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for all the reasons that we discussed before, because of all the all the
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panels, and all the confusion that it creates for the content of the actual
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shows, because people are bringing the panel drama to shows or vice versa,
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you know what I mean. Yeah, No, I hadn't thought of it
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that way, but yeah, that makes that does I think a year off
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is good? M Yeah, I think a year off is good, you
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know, And I love it. It's going to be in Vegas. It's
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going to be back in Vegas where conventions belong, Yes, and where it
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makes a lot more sense for hotel fees and not a lot of sense in
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terms of Bravo show, but a lot of right in terms of costs.
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Look, between now and next year, it's very possible that there could be
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a release of the Real Housewives of Las Vegas. I mean, they've got
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time to film it. They've got time to fill a killer filming and edit
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together a killer trailer to drop next year, and let's just call it.
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Let's say that's what they're gonna do. Okay, I will say this is
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another this is a premiere information that you're getting right now, Right, there's
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going to be a Bravo show in Vegas, just so that makes sense that
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we're there, you know, I mean, why not? Yeah, why
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not? You know what, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, why not?
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Why not? Look, it is what it is. I'm just saying.
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Also, Bravo posted today that they have all of these billboards up in Los
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Angeles. I don't know if you saw that, but you are to tag
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them when you see a gorgeous California billboard Sunset and King's Sunset and Los Sienaga
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Sunset and San Vicente Barhum in Hollywood, Ventura and Van Nuys, Fairfax and
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Third Highland and Melrose. I mean, I know all these spots. You
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know all these spots. Yeah, those are expensive billboards, they are,
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I mean, and it keeps going Fairfax and Third I mean that's right by
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the Grove, Highland and Melrose. This is great venture. This is all
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our Bravo. That's the Bravo con money went to these billboards in LA.
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Yes, you're so right. We're not gonna do it this year. We're
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just gonna do billboards Santa Monica and Beverly Glenn, Beverly and Los Sienaga,
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Kowanga and Riverside Kowenka and Hollywood, Lincoln and Harrison. Now I don't know
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about that, and I also don't know. Oh ninety Freeway and Bologna Creek
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that's got to be over by Marina del m h. Lincoln Andrison is probably
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over there too, Yeah, is over by the I like the idea that
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it's like a scavenger hunt for the billboards and you have to like document it
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on social media. That's really smart. Is there a prize? No?
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I honestly think that you know there was that thing called geo tagging, right
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remember way Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know. It seems like they
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were trying to do that here, but it just says like tag us when
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you see these billboards. So I don't know, and they all say different
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things. Bravo is my love language, watches, Bravo, Green Flag,
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Hi, Besty, Let's Bravo talk, Bravo to me, Bravo State of
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Mind. If you know, I y K, Bravo y K. If
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you don't, we got you. Look, I'm not working for free here,
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Bravo. You put these up, I better get a prize if we're
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going to be around town documenting these. I know, I feel like they
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should do some sort of raffle. Yeah, like if you can document yourself
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being catching all of these signs, then yeah, you get a seed it
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on the running, Yeah, in the running for something, or Andy will
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come to a watch What Happens Live at your home, or you get a
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free ticket to Bravo Khan in twenty twenty five or twenty twenty seven. You
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decide, Yeah, you decide that's what it is. I mean, I
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think it's super cute. What are you going to do? Oh, by
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the way, you weren't here with me yesterday as I was recapping one of
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the things that came up in the news, which was that Christina Applegate really
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came forward with her just fandom for rob and Dixon and tweeted at Andy Cohen
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that she could not believe that she was leaving and it's her favorite housewife of
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all the franchises. So can you comment on that because I am still astounded.
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I love that she's that she loves to feel like this is great for
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Robin. I love that for Robin. How are you feeling? I think
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Christina Applegate lived in Maryland for a little while. She lived in uh the
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uh Harvard, Harford County area is my as an adult, like as a
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as a Christina Applegate, like she was like living there, she had a
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house. That was what I was told a while ago. But then I
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thought, oh, maybe that's why she's such a Robin fan. But then
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I was like, well, who were who was Amy's like when when they
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left? I know who mine were, but I can get it down to
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one. I can tell you my top three, But who were who were?
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Like you the most sad of any of the Bravo shows when they left?
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You were like whoa? What? No? No? Like was there
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anybody like that for you? Oh? That is really tough because a lot
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of the time when someone does leave who I really do like, it does
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seem like it is their time to go, despite how cuckoo crazy bananas I
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feel about them, Like a Nini, it was like, how can this
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be Atlanta without Nini? However, where we were at that time, I
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agreed with her needing to leave the show because she her spirit wasn't in it,
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you know, and you can't fight that. But when Rinna left,
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I did have an issue with that because I felt like, well, you
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know, she's showing up, she's doing the work, and you guys are
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gonna be sorry. And so that one hit me hard. But the rest
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I feel like we're all they all worked. How about you? Well?
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In my top three, Niini, Lisa vander Pomp because also I remember back
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then it wasn't so common that someone would leave, like you had your pillars
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and they stuck around and right right to left. But my number one,
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and this is a shocker because I to this day, I can't tell you
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one iconic thing she did, but Carol rats Awell. I was so bombed
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when she left me. More I think because she was so safe, like
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she felt so sane to me, and I identified so much with her,
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and I just thought she was like the coolest yeah that I just liked her
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vibe on the show. She just felt so New York and like chill.
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Yeah, but like she wasn't like Derinda or something like she wasn't this crazy
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lightning rod. But yeah, Carol, Yeah, that's a good one.
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You know. Again with Lisa vander Pomp and Nini, and I would even
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say Carol, it felt like, look, you know, you're fighting against
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what's happening here, so it is time to time to go. So for
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that reason, I stand by what I said. Typically, when a housewife
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goes, even if they're an OG, even like VICKI I felt like,
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yeah, it's time for Vicky to go or Tamra. You know, those
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are the types of situations where I was like, I'm okay with it.
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And also, we're older now, we're wiser, we know that a lot
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of times these people come back or have the opportunity to come back. Yes,
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But when it comes to vander Pump, you know, because we have
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her on other shows. That's why, Yeah, I'm not worried too much
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about it, because we always like I always want Lisa vander Pump in my
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life in entertainment on some level. And I feel like, you know,
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I've gotten, I've gotten what I've wished for. So yeah, she's going
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to be available for that. But listen, reasonable Shady will keep going and
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Robin will continue to be a part of that. And I think that's great.
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And I love that Christina really stood up for Robin and that's great.
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and down. I know, I think, like because we kind of picked
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up where we left off and I'm still I thought, Okay, well,
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surely this episode Janet and Zach are going to come forward and explain how it
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got messy, right, and it did not happen. She just sat back
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and watched the bullets fly and they didn't get hit. How not just sat
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back. Janet made it worse. I feel, yes, she yeah,
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you're right, she did. Yeah, I don't think I mean Zach,
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I'm going to say Zach made it worse too, but Janet absolutely made it
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way worse. I mean, at least Zach was like, Kristin, if
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you could just go ahead and take the fall one hundred percent, and like
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I'll set up how you can take that fall and they can apologize, and
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like, you know, I just could not believe it because like at the
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end of the day, you know, words were said, words were actually
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Kristin did repeat what she heard, and nobody who actually said it is being
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held accountable and Kristin is just taking it for everybody, and they don't believe
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her, and for whatever reason, they think, they really are hanging their
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hat on that she made this all up, and like she's the only veteran
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reality star in that fight. And I think like because because Jack's I mean,
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Jacks and Brittany were kind of on the periphery, but they're not really
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in it. But Dody knows, like the cameras are gonna roll back and
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you're gonna see some shit. I am telling you what I did on camera,
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or I am telling you you know. So I don't think if I
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were them, I wouldn't be like, she's making this totally up. I
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think they've been in the web of like Jackx's lies in the Internet trolls to
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think that Dotie's a total like like idiot, and she's not. So they're
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they're just thinking, like, here's Dody being crazy Kristen, right, well,
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it was crazy. Well what was nuts is that she took that information
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and she repeated it in a moment it where it had absolutely no relevance at
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all to the topic of conversation at hand or to anything going on at all
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remotely between any of the relationships. So it was literally to misdirect what was
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coming at Kristen. She just floundered and was like dub Janet's racist, you
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know what I mean, Like that's what happened. So she she really truly
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did screw up big time. I mean like, don't don't get me wrong,
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she completely messed up. And like I mentioned last week, it was
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like you know when you when someone says don't think, don't don't say the
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word or don't think about a pink elephant. Don't think about a pink elephant.
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And then you're like, I can't stop thinking about a pink elephant.
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Kristen's life has been so consumed for the past several years based on her her
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the accusations and her behavior and her racist, prejudicial behavior that happened all those
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years ago, and her cancelation. So this is in the forefront of her
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mind. She's been trying to work through it. She's trying to do the
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work. She's you know, been very remorseful. She's buried her head in
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the sand. And what's the first thing that she does to deflect. She
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brings up with one of the most delicate topics that there possibly could be,
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and then she just catapults it over and it's like, what are you doing?
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So? Oh, she does? I agree with you. She's got
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to eat so much shit for that, like, hands down, absolutely,
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Which is why Jesse is saying, why do you keep making these mistakes?
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But what he's failing to say isn't she didn't make the same mistake she made
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years ago. She didn't do anything to anybody, right, She just was
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repeating something that would hurt someone like she was hurt, and that's the irony
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of it. She goes nuclear all the time, and she still will do
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that. She's always going to go nuclear. So I guess that is what
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Jesse's point was. Okay, well that makes sense. That makes sense,
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Yeah, because that is the craziest option to take, is to hit that
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button. But and I'm not condoning any of this, but like I guess
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I kind of am saying, like Jack's, I am blaming Jack's a little
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bit. I wish Dody was a little bit further in her therapy, that
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she wouldn't fall and into the trap. But like Jacks, by doing what
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he did in terms of Luke and and the X at the Guy's Night and
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realizing that he ambushed Luke, sent Dody into orbit. And that's like she,
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I think, had no control over like what she was going to grab,
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but she was going to grab the shiniest object in her head that she
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had, right, marshmallow Man, Right, Yeah, yeah, But yeah,
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I love that you. I love that you're blaming Jack's for Kristen stirring
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up. What's funny to me? I'm gonna GOHI blame Jackson said Studio City.
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I'm gonna blame his bar. I mean, I think it's all I'm
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gonna co sign on that, you know, like as if like Kristin has
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no ability to discern what's going to come out of her mouth. But you
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know, she just she just flips, you know, a switch flips.
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And I really felt for her in the moment of like, Zach, you're
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not gonna do anything. Like he's probably been there with her for the last
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several years, watching her go through all this, and yet he's gonna let
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her take the dive for this, you know, this whole thing. I
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think he cannot believe what he is seeing in front of his eyes on camera,
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and it's just like watching his entire world, like everything is flashing before
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his eyes. He is stunned he thought this. I mean, he's not
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ever seen what a professional reality start is willing to do, not in real
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time. Not in real time, Yeah, exactly. And this is where
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it really sneaks up on you, you know, because he has watched all
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the shows, he's been around all these people, and yet still he got
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bit, you know, and like he was like, where did that even
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come from? I mean he is like, yeah, surely they're not going
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to say the one thing you can never say. Oh my god, she's
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saying it four hours into our filming of all time, of all time beginning.
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I mean it's it's insane. Yeah, you cannot mess with a veteran
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reality person, specifically on vander Pump for goals. Yeah, well now the
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Valley but yeah, and Zach's face was constantly that like huh, I mean
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he was like a cartoon care he was a meme. He I think he's
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just a meme. Like every single time he's just kind of frozen in this
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stance that you can put any kind of like phrase underneath him. I know,
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yeah, yeah, and it would work. You know, he's a
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gift. He's a gift. He's a gift, a meme. It's crazy.
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Yeah. But I also was like, okay, like, so they
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had that big explosion at the dinner. First of all, I thought that
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that they were all at that uh mansion, so that Jesse I thought he
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was hosting like an open house kind of dinner for like billionaires at this mansion
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to sell it. But then it was just like the Valley friends all having
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dinner in this mansion together. Yeah, that is his thing that he's selling.
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I didn't understand that because it was set up like it's going to be
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very sophisticated, and then it was like it's going to be a theme because
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this is where I meet these billionaires. And then I'm like, oh,
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okay, so everybody's going to be on their best behavior. But it was
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just them. I honestly left that billionaires were cooking? Were they there?
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Were? They were? They were? It was the top Chef episode in
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the kay No, I left that behind me in the last episode. So
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when you're talking, I'm like, I don't even remember the reason why they
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were where they were. Like I was like, I have no idea where
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that dinner was, and I completely forgot that had anything to do with real
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estate. So that's yeah. I mean, if they wanted to tie that
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in, they're going to have to give us a shot of a sweeping staircase
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that's floating, that's a million dollars to give us a little We're used to
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million dollar listing, We're used to buying Beverly Hills, we're used to selling
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sunset, So that did not register with me. You know, you're going
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to have to play a little harder for there. And then there was like
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the explosion, and then I thought Kristin and Luke were leaving, and then
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everybody just we're leaving. And he said back, like breakout rooms to like
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talk about what we learned at the meeting, and nothing was resolved, right
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right, Oh my god, yeah, breakout rooms. It's like, okay,
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we're gonna do one on ones now, Zach and Kristen, you come
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on outside. And that was crazy because she was like, I am so
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disappointed in you and he's like, oh me minute, you know, he's
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just gifing and meaning all over and it was nuts, but I did enjoy
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that Michelle really stood up for herself. She was like, stand up,
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like take ownership and say you're sorry and said that nobody said that and and
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but that's the thing. Kristen can't say that, correct, she you are
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correct? Thank you incorrect? Yeah, okay, yeah, Michelle is incorrect.
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Thank you. And Michelle. It's not that cut and dry, you
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know. Even when Zach approached Michelle while he was sitting next to her at
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that Scareball Center at the uh be A match gala, and he was like,
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well, I mean, while I'm here, I just have to say
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like I'm really sorry, and uh like just by you know, I guess
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I'm at fault by proxy, and like you are, Janet Messenger, Yeah
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you start, Janet started it, Okay, yeah, it what's Janet doing?
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I felt like Dodie was like, we have the votes, Zach and
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I know what's up, and we are going to tell Michelle what's going on.
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And then they got to the round table and nobody did the plan going
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into the banishment to the Now these are traders references, you guys, if
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you're not, if you're unfamiliar, yes, but it just felt like they
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both were on the same page. They had a really good logical origin story
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of how this all went down, and then like Janet's name never ever came
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up ever again, and that was that. I also think like Jax did
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say something in his confessionally He's like, yeah, Janet, she's like me.
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She likes to stir it up and talk shit and then she likes to
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sit back and like let other people deal with it. And I was like
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the silent killer, oh right, So that I was like, that's very
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interesting. Yeah, But I also think that they were all talking shit before
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the show started, like you do, and it was to never be talked
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about in the light of day, no matter what. But you know what
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I mean, like, yeah, it was like, oh republican. You
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know she's a Republican. Oh she's probably racist and homophobic. Oh yeah,
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you know, just talking the worst smack making gigantic assumptions, you know,
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not taking into account and then to have that resurface when you know when they
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probably know now they know each other well enough, they're like, oh,
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she's not like that at all or whatever. And the way you to hear
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Zach talk about his he's projecting on like what people in LA think of Republicans,
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Like I mean, then I'm like, oh, he totally said these
26:59
things because he just went to one hundred explaining that point of view, and
27:04
so I'm sure he said everything that he's that Kristin said he said, and
27:11
I was, quite frankly, I'm always surprised that the ratio of Democrats and
27:17
Republicans in LA. I am surprised how many Republicans there are here. So
27:22
I don't even think he has his fact straight. You know, I just
27:25
think that you know, you can tell by when it's time to vote it's
27:30
election year and you see the signs, and quite frankly, it is not
27:33
as you know, democratic, as perhaps he would like to think. Now,
27:38
I'm not talking about just I'm talking about the surrounding areas. I mean
27:44
Los Angeles County and proper. I'm talking about Glendale, Burbank, everyone conta.
27:51
Well, yeah, you know, an the Valley. Yeah. So
27:53
it's really like, yeah, sure, if you if you're just living in
27:56
Los Fela's and you're in who great, you know, yeah, everybody you're
28:02
going to come in contact is most likely going to be part of the Democratic
28:04
Party. But outside of that, that's like not where it ends and begins.
28:08
So that's the other thing where I just thought like, Okay, you
28:12
may be a little bit ignorant here, that's fine, But here you are
28:15
and you're spouting off this stuff when in fact you're not right there, and
28:19
then you're pulling Michelle into this and you're making assumptions about her. It just
28:25
seemed very, very messy, and it just seemed like a bunch of people
28:27
talking shit when they got drunk and the game of telephone. But there was
28:30
absolutely something to it. And in the meantime, I get Kristin giving Janet
28:36
a bye because she's pregnant, because nobody wants to handle that kind of stress.
28:41
I thought was very nice of Kristin to be like, I'm going to
28:44
pull back because you're pregnant. Yeah, yeah, it was good. That
28:48
was good. Yeah, that was I don't think Dody of a few years
28:52
ago would have done that, So that's good. When they were when it
28:56
was like the one on one and Zach's like, okay, Kristin, like,
29:00
let's have you talk to Michelle. And then Jesse I thought he was
29:04
going to just you know, I thought that jacket was going to explode.
29:07
I didn't know what was going to happen because he was so furious, and
29:11
I couldn't believe that they actually kind of came to a point of like let's
29:17
try to move forward, because I thought Jesse was gonna blow his top.
29:22
Are you talking about at the end with that Earthday banner scraps that Jesse,
29:29
that's what his jacket looked like. I was like, first of all,
29:30
Zach, that does not look like a Miami eighties coke jacket. No,
29:36
it was more of an abstract Yeah, it's like it was like here's our
29:40
leftover fabric from the Seahawks' Super Bowl. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, but
29:49
I thought that Jesse. It's weird. I think he's using these opportunities to
29:56
show his love for Michelle. I think this is where he's like really trying
30:02
to shine for her, and he is. He really does have her back,
30:06
and it is nice, but yeah, I don't think it's going to
30:08
work. Well, we know it doesn't. We know it doesn't. Remember
30:12
how going back to Jersey the first season and the finale and the table flip,
30:19
Yes, well, Joe Judaicce at that time was like you know,
30:23
oh yeah, you know it turned me on. I was like, yeah,
30:26
yeah, when she flipped the table, that was the same vibe I
30:30
got between Jesse and Michelle when she stood up and she's like, oh the
30:36
tail the chair was light, you know, and he's like he flipped the
30:38
chair. He was like. I was like, wow, if she was
30:41
like this in our life, you know, our sex life would be great.
30:44
I just thought, oh, this is so interesting, Like Joe,
30:47
you don't want to be compared to Joe Judice, you know, but for
30:52
a second there, it was nice to see them. Right, He really
30:56
did have her back. He did, but yes, he did totally right.
31:00
He was like you Nick, yeah, so sexy. But I did
31:11
like that they for a second had a little respite of kind of liking each
31:15
other because they were on the same team. Yeah again it's Kristen Doady.
31:18
They're like, Kristen's actually bringing us together. Oh my god. Anyway,
31:27
so well let's see here, Michelle. This is after the first the original
31:33
dinner and at the beginning and after Zach and Kristen talk and blah blah blah,
31:38
and now before the charity event. I'm just going back Michelle and Jesse.
31:45
They are talking and Michelle tells Jesse Kristen sent me a text and it
31:51
said your secrets are safe with me. I don't retaliate for the sake of
31:55
my mental health. And I was like, oh it, here she goes
32:02
next level, next level. I was like, bring it, Kristin doty,
32:07
She's back. Yeah, yeah, that's that was interesting to me because
32:12
Jonathan later talks about the secrets, and it's funny that like Jesse also is
32:16
like, what secret, Like everybody believes Kristen. Now, oh yeah they
32:21
are. They are right now. They don't mean Kristen when she's like saying,
32:27
I didn't say that, but they wholeheartedly are like Kristen knows something.
32:30
How do you know, well she said it, so that's Kristen Doty said
32:34
it. Yeah, she texted it like pick your pick your lanes, guys?
32:39
Does she is she lying? Is she not? But like then I
32:44
was like, that is the perfect thing that she could have ever said,
32:46
is your secrets are safe with me. It was amazing and the fact that
32:52
Michelle read it on camera was another level of why this show is so good
33:00
because we are talking this seemed to be very organic, and Michelle and Jesse
33:07
seemed very organic as two people who've never been on reality television before, Yeah,
33:12
living their lives like and pretty authentically. For Michelle to be like just
33:17
blatantly read it knowing or maybe not even thinking about it, Kristin certainly does
33:23
not expect her to read this on camera, right, No, I think
33:29
it plays perfectly into Kristen's She wouldn't expect that. Absolutely, who would ever
33:35
read their text aloud? Although it is like probably like cut to every episode,
33:42
the producers were probably like, they're filming over at Michelle and Jesse's,
33:45
Yeah, so send so maybe you could reach out to Michelle right now because
33:50
they're filming so yeah, And then the producers over Michelle and Jesse's are like,
33:54
has Kristin I think is going to text you? So oh you think
33:58
that? Oh see, I was thinking Kristin did it on her own accord,
34:02
like well you and me off camera, Like that's how I thought.
34:07
I think she knew she was going to be reading it now that I'm talking
34:12
it out loud, Yeah, we got to talk to you. I think
34:15
she did know that it would be read on camera, because that's why she
34:19
didn't elaborate. I think that's why she did keep it vague, or else
34:22
she would have said what the secret was. Yeah, and she knows too
34:25
well about reality television. She knows that anything that is said in a text
34:30
is going to be shown, if perhaps it is shown. So she protected
34:34
herself by saying, like, I mean, she made herself look good by
34:37
saying, I'm not going to retaliate, even though this is bad for my
34:44
mental health, like what I'm doing right, wouldn't you say that's what she
34:46
meant? Yeah? I think, well, I mean it was like a
34:50
thinly veiled I'm protecting you, Michelle. I mean though even though it's bad
34:54
for me, yes, even though, like I think, I mean,
35:00
I don't even know if she was I think she was basically saying like,
35:04
hey, I could make this a lot worse, but I'm not. I'll
35:07
take the heat on this one. I'm keeping your secrets for you. So
35:13
Michelle quickly get over whatever is going on and embrace Dodie again as her friend.
35:20
Yeah, you nailed it. They are threatened by a really hot giant
35:23
penis thirty two year old okay Luke? Yeah, I was like, God,
35:31
why do I feel like some giant monster is coming for me right now?
35:38
I would have said that Luke was from the eighteen forties, you know,
35:45
maybe towards the end of the gold Rush, Like that's a prospector like
35:47
that'bsolute where I'm aging, I know. I was like, I thought he
35:52
was fifty four. Yeah, well he's an old soul, it is.
36:00
Yeah. He It is wild how down he is to just have babies like
36:09
well, especially when they're having a conversation of and then where do you want
36:15
to live? Right? And they haven't had that yet, they haven't had
36:19
that conversation. And he's so locked into one space and she's so locked into
36:24
another. I mean, well, first of all, he does I like
36:31
that he called her out and he was like, you slipped up, but
36:36
you didn't plant this narrative, meaning she didn't start the storyline. So I
36:40
mean I like that he's at least saying like, hey, you know you
36:44
messed up. You shouldn't shut your mouth, but I still love your back.
36:49
And then Kristen talking about her therapy, which, by the way,
36:52
at the end, when Michelle was like, you need help, I was
36:54
like, WHOA, that's so intense to say to somebody. Yes, actually,
37:00
if Kristen said, I've been in therapy for nine years, like I
37:02
would think that Michelle would know that. I know they do. Yeah,
37:07
you need he need help, like more help than twice a week therapy.
37:12
How much can I do? And I mean Jax did say like I think
37:15
it was Jack's that's set about Christian. He was like, she needs a
37:20
new new therapist or whatever. But yeah, well yeah, I mean I
37:25
these are the moments where I'm just like really looking forward to the reunion when
37:30
everybody sees everything and they can ask more direct questions from the sources or going
37:38
just understanding the whole picture a lot better, because as a viewer at home,
37:43
I'm like pointing at nothing in my room to no, no, It's
37:47
like you know, like misconnections, and it's so frustrating. Well, we're
37:52
getting to know these people, you know, we don't know who to trust.
37:55
I mean, for all we know, because Jesse and Michelle are set,
38:00
maybe you'll throw her under the bus and be like she's racist, you
38:02
know what I mean, Like I'm kidding, I'm kidding. But it's just
38:06
like you never know. Because we're at the very beginning of the show and
38:09
we have a couple veterans on here. We've got Kristin, Jacks and Britney,
38:16
right, but we also have Zach kind of co signing Kristen's story.
38:22
I believe Kristin that it was like a bad game of telephone. I believe
38:29
that she but there is something there that she heard and is repeating that is
38:36
in line with what she then said to Michelle. And honestly, Luke is
38:40
an eyewitness or an ear witness according to him. So right, anyway,
38:46
so Christen's like, I have to I've gone to therapy twice this week over
38:50
this group of people, which is a very very funny line. And then
38:52
Luke is like, oh, well, we got to get out of this
38:55
crazy town and so you can get happy and regnant and relaxed, and where
39:00
do you want to live? It's like Colorado. She's like, my work
39:05
is here, which is interesting because well, her work is there now,
39:08
you know, because this show started. But had they you know, she
39:12
could have been living in Colorado already if the show hadn't have begun. Well,
39:15
and I still maintain we talked about this. I think they could live
39:21
in both places. They could film when they need to and live in Colorado
39:23
the rest of the time. And they could probably do that until their kid
39:28
is about four and has to like lock into like some preschool situation like something
39:34
with yeah, you know, but they could live. They could do this
39:37
for a couple more years, and by four more years, well, maybe
39:39
we get a Doughty in the Mountain spin off or something in the Mountains.
39:45
Oh my god, look out here comes this big dick thirty two year old
39:50
by a really hot giant penis thirty two year old. She is so unambashedly
39:58
actual. Yeah, yeah, this is the thirty two year old giant.
40:01
And that's how I see it. I don't know, but I just see
40:05
a giant man boy come in and I don't know what's going on down there,
40:09
but it is it's intense. Yeah wow, I okay, let me
40:16
just take it down for a second and talk about Jack's and Britney and Cruise
40:23
Baby Cruise. Okay. So I felt this so hard, and any any
40:30
people out there who have our parents and have kids or have loved ones who
40:35
are kids that struggle with speech therapy or when they're this young and you are
40:38
trying to figure out what's going on because you know they're not maybe hitting their
40:44
milestones when they're quote unquote supposed to, and things are so stressful when they're
40:50
that age, and I remember going through very similar things. I feel like
40:53
all of my friends have gone and their kids have gone through similar things where
40:58
it's like you're starting to reach out and get resources and help because you're just
41:00
not sure. It is a really rough place to be in, and I
41:06
just I just want to say, don't worry. Don't worry yourself to death.
41:09
You know, time is your friend and it's great to get I love
41:15
that they're getting speech therapy and their early intervention is always key, but I
41:21
feel for parents and I always just want to say, you know, slow
41:24
your role, you know, think the best, don't think the worst,
41:29
get intervention, Get all the help and resources you need, but it may
41:32
not be the worst case scenario as you are imagining in your head. Because
41:38
that's the thing that you disagree. I disagree. I'm just kidding, absolutely
41:44
agree with you. But I was gonna say, I'm going to go so
41:49
hard on Jack's this entire season, So I just want to take a second
41:52
to say that he seems like a good dad. Yeah, you know,
41:58
so like I just want to knowledge a little bit of like, yeah,
42:02
yeah, he's got his moments. And when I was watching him, I
42:07
was like, I really feel for him. I felt for him and the
42:10
faces you know, you saw their faces, like we all saw their faces,
42:15
and that was worry, pain, love at its most raw form.
42:22
And it makes sense because like if they're dealing with the stress of you know,
42:30
their child on top of their marriage issues and those types of things,
42:36
that really does make sense a bar, opening a restaurant, which is insane,
42:42
starting a reality show, Like I can't imagine what they're going through.
42:46
Brittany just had surgery, Like there's just like, yeah, that's right,
42:50
so much going on that are that you? I mean you can say,
42:55
well, they signed up for all of it, and it's like yeah,
42:58
but they're also like trying to set up their lives financially, and they had
43:02
these opportunities, so they took them. They had, Yeah, they had
43:07
to. I thought. I saw a headline that said that Brittany was paying
43:12
the bills. And I remember during that time when they were off television and
43:16
she was doing she was just so great doing all those Jenny Craig you know,
43:21
and I was like, this is amazing because like they need the money,
43:23
and that what an incredible sponsorship to have. And she's a great person
43:29
to lean into that type of thing, and so she really had to step
43:34
up and do that and she did, and like, and I think that's
43:37
great. So I just really feel for them, and I think it's incredibly
43:43
relatable. I think this show is very relatable for couples. And I'm not
43:46
even saying like young couples, because I don't even see these people as young
43:50
couples. I think they're mid age couples, you know what I'm saying,
43:53
Like, Yeah, they're not in their thirties, okay, or are they?
43:58
It seems like some of them are going late Okay, it's late thirties
44:01
into forties, maybe, don't you think, Yeah, yeah, I think
44:07
so. But yeah, I think they're all in their forties, late late
44:10
thirties or thirties into forties. Yeah, okay, I don't think anybody's too
44:14
much younger than that, right. So I really like the messaging here,
44:19
which is that like, look, everything's pretty fucked up, you know what
44:22
I mean, and everybody goes through these things. When Brittany and Jack's are
44:25
talking about their sex life and you just you do the math and it's like,
44:29
yeah, she had a baby and it was like bye bye, and
44:32
that's completely relatable. We related with that quite a bit. It just takes
44:38
a minute to get back on board. You know. As long as you
44:40
can get back on board and you guys are on the same page, it
44:45
can be okay. But you also have to That's why when sometimes the narrative
44:50
about like when New York, when those women are like giving when they were
44:54
giving on what's your name? Such a hard time. Now, I forget
44:57
all the New York late to the tube top? What was her? What
45:00
was her? People tank top? The taktops? Oh my gosh, right,
45:07
did we pause? It's Jessel, you guys. So it's like when
45:12
you, uh, she was very relatable. She had had twins and they
45:15
hadn't had sex in a long time. But when Aaron was like, go
45:21
home and fuck your husband, it's like and and Cy was saying the same
45:23
thing. It was kind of like, Okay, you guys they had they
45:28
did IVF, Brettan I did IVF. We were trying for so long that
45:32
you know, you have you have some misfortunate events. There's a lot to
45:37
people's stories that why they end up in that place. It's not just that
45:40
cut and dry. The point being is that getting back on board, and
45:45
that's where the rubber meets the road, you know what I mean. So
45:50
obviously Jackson Brittany are going through it. And then when you when you add
45:53
in the fact that you the changes of going from you know, hot and
45:59
heavy to marriage to having a baby, that and of itself. If you're
46:04
child and you're having concerns about them, forget it. It's you're never gonna
46:07
feel sexy. You're always going to be worried about thinking about your kid twenty
46:12
four to seven, you know, And for a lot of people it's very
46:15
difficult to compartmentalize and to put that aside for a second and work on your
46:20
marriage. And I do think there's something to that and there's something to work
46:22
on. And when you hear about Britney saying that jack isn't willing to do
46:24
marriage therapy, that's a problem because that's a problem. And also jach is
46:30
the king of compartmentalizing, So I'm like, whoa buddy, that's interest at
46:37
it? Wow? But he, I guess only in limited spaces is he
46:43
good at it? He's just good at lying. Well. When they're at
46:46
the County Fair, all the guys are talking about that very openly. And
46:52
again, like I said, I think there's a lot of people who are
46:53
going to be watching this. They're gonna be like, I relate. I
46:55
relate. I just really hope and want for the sake of our community and
47:01
the people watching the show, like if they could potentially be examples of how
47:07
to get your marriage back on track and your family together through using tools of
47:12
be it therapy or whatever, I hope that they can do that to inspire
47:17
other people because a lot of people are in that situation. Well, like,
47:22
look, maybe these aren't the best examples to look at. I learned
47:25
from Jesse and Michelle and Jackson Brittany, but like, let's look at Danny
47:30
and Nia. They're Danny and they're killing it. They're killing it. Yeah.
47:34
Oh and then another relatable well did you see the trailer for next week
47:38
about her crying? And she was like, I hat the baby blues and
47:42
like that's most part of stuff. And I'm like, this is all so
47:45
perfect for the type of people that have been following Vanner Pump rules for so
47:50
long. The next phase of this, you know, demographic, what people
47:54
can relate with. You know, we're not really all at the bar anymore.
47:58
We are home, having kids, building our family, dealing with real
48:02
life shit. And when I say they make it look easy, they are
48:06
in everything looks like chaos, But in terms of having each other's back,
48:13
they seem to do it in a really genuine way constantly and it doesn't seem
48:16
like work. Whereas Jack's always has that edge to his voice. I don't
48:22
care if Brittany's asking for him to pass her a glass of water. It's
48:27
always like this glass of water, Is this what you want? Because you
48:30
only had half a glass of water earlier, and I just think you should
48:32
drink that other glass until you start. Then you have this one, and
48:37
it's like, oh my god, yeah, and that's kind of what Michelle
48:42
says. Jesse does too. And then you see Danny and Nia and it's
48:45
like night day yeah mm hm, oh my god. When when Brittany and
48:52
Danny were setting up that romantic evening for Luke, that was so weird.
48:58
I will never set up have a fuck bed for any of my friends putting
49:04
that out there. I don't care how hot I guess I have. You
49:12
have to say, you've got to for the giant. Also hauling that huge
49:16
massage table around, I'm like, what the what is stop? This is
49:22
so weird and gross. Also they are very busy, like Danny has twins
49:29
and a toddler. Yeah, and he's working and he's breastfeeding. Danny is
49:35
feeding, he's breastfeeding. And Brittany, I mean, she's got a million
49:39
things going on, Like how dare you? I just cat it late?
49:45
Did the dog eat those rose pedals as that would like to sick? I
49:49
was like, yeah, actually it's probably exactly what yeah, yeah, Or
49:52
the wax that were the open flames that you just then left for a camera
49:58
guide to film and that and Shepherd to just tear through the apartment and the
50:01
massage oil. God, knows what else was out. I mean, poor
50:07
Jill. That was the dog. Yes, I know. No, not
50:12
you, Jill, not that Jill. No, Jill, not you the
50:15
dog. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I didn't know what you're talking about.
50:19
The dog. I needn't know. Yeah, uh yeah that. Kristen
50:24
Luke went over to Soulmate, which is next to Sexy Unique Restaurant. I
50:34
wonder if I actually know where that place is. I've never been because it's
50:38
like, if I'm going over there, I'm going to go to Tom Thomas,
50:42
sir. So there used to be a Mexican restaurant right there, so
50:45
I'm a little bit confused. Yeah, it must have moved. Well,
50:49
yeah, I think you're right. I totally forgot about that. That was
50:52
a Mexican restaurant. It was really good and I have eaten there. And
50:55
if you recall, oh god, was its no Sheena's boyfriend at the time,
51:07
Valletta. I want to say he slept with the hostess there or something
51:10
like that. This is all like very deep cut. Oh yeah, yeah,
51:16
okay, I remember this, yes, a little just getting into something
51:20
for you there. But were they Soulmates? I guess, Matt, Yeah,
51:28
I guess not. It's just a it's just a joke that needed a
51:31
drum line. There we go. So all right, then what happens?
51:38
But oh, Jason and Janet? Okay, so Janet is planning this charity
51:43
event. I didn't know she was part of planning it in the past.
51:46
I've you know, obviously didn't know these characters. But Jared lips Comb,
51:52
they call him Jared lips he's a makeup artist and he's a wonderful person.
51:55
I met him before. He's so so kind, so sweet, and anyway,
52:00
so this is a charity event for you know, donating I don't know
52:10
themselves. Sorry, no, some cells. I couldn't. I'm sorry I
52:13
couldn't. I was like, what is it? It's done? Yeah,
52:15
So you're right. It was clear there was something else that was unclear about
52:20
the charity event, and I can't remember what it was. I was like,
52:22
wait what, but yeah, go on. Yeah, And so I
52:27
didn't realize they were such good friends and so that's, you know, really
52:31
nice. He he was diagnosed with acute my Lloyd leukemia at thirty one years
52:39
old. So and he was able to get a match. And I remember
52:45
when he had that surgery and he's just been in and out and you know,
52:46
dealing with his illness, and so it was really great to see them
52:52
all come together for this cause didn't know that Janet had something to do with
52:55
it, but it saved his life, right, I think that, Yes,
53:00
that was clear to me. I remember being unclear about Janet and planning
53:06
the event. I was thinking, like, I would have liked to have
53:09
seen more of that. I wasn't sure why we didn't see more of that,
53:14
right, because that seems like it would have been a pretty good storyline
53:16
for Janet. But we just cut all that out and went straight there.
53:21
But maybe there wasn't enough there. I don't think there's enough time. Yeah.
53:23
Yeah, it seems like there's a lot of people on this cast,
53:29
so they have to really like have some tea edits. Yeah, I agree,
53:34
but it just felt I guess that was like I then thought like,
53:37
okay, this is the second time. I myself thought, okay, so
53:44
then we're gonna see Jesse then push, we're gonna see Jesse in action like
53:47
selling this house, or we're gonna see Janet in action planning this event.
53:51
Yeah, totally, Yes, we didn't see either thing. Yes, absolutely,
53:54
I completely anticipated that too, and we didn't see it. Yeah,
53:58
yeah, it's strange, strange, Okay, I'm okay with it. Though
54:05
I didn't need it. I realize, Yeah, it's fine. Some of
54:09
that can get really boring. So that's that's all right. They raised three
54:13
hundred and twenty thousand dollars. That was I did out of money, Yeah,
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and I appreciate it. On the ride over, the questioning about like
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how much are we going to spend? Yeah, and I thought that was
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good. And that's Brittany did say I'm spending my money and Jackson's like,
54:28
no, we it's like our kid needs this and this. Yeah. Yeah,
54:32
so it was good. I thought it was very real. Yeah,
54:36
it was very real. It was. And the dog getting sick is real
54:39
too. I mean, I don't know. Do you think that Luke just
54:43
wanted to sit it out, like, because if he's starting to sit stuff
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out this early, we got a problem. No, we don't have a
54:49
problem. Every time he shows up he gives one hundred percent. Even though
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it's Luke one hundred, it's a lukewarm, it's still one hundred for Luke.
54:58
It's Luke. Sorry, I'm fine with it. A really hot giant
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penis thirty two year old be it's lukewarm. He's not boring to me,
55:07
like I no, I think he's doing great. Yeah, so if he
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wants to sit one out, I'm fine with it. Okay. Oh god,
55:15
Kristin she is. That was rough. It was so awkward to watch.
55:20
I just like, really need to get over this, and we just
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I want to move on to other things. I want to know what secrets
55:27
that Kristin is talking about that Michelle has. Yeah, yeah, I don't
55:32
know what that is. I don't even know if if yeah, well,
55:37
like it's funny because I believe her on the other stuff, but on the
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secrets, I'm thinking like maybe a game it's a game move, yes exactly.
55:49
I don't know if there really is much there, or she's just like,
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no, you know, like anything you've ever shared with me, you
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know, right, oh you know, you know when we've been drinking and
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you've said some things yeah, yeah, like what did I say? You
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know? Yeah? Or or it's probably just all the times that Michelle has
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talked so much shit about Jesse. That's and it's like Michelle's like, those
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aren't secrets. I just told him a lot of that this morning at breakfast
56:19
like that is Actually you're probably right. I bet that's it. Yeah about
56:23
Jesse, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that has to be. Yeah,
56:28
that's it because she wouldn't want that out there because she would want to be
56:34
controlling. Michelle would be wanting to control the message because of her kid and
56:37
stuff. So I could see, Yeah, that's it that you figured it
56:40
out. All right, Well it's no secret. So I mean unless like
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Michelle has secretly filed for divorce and Jesse doesn't even know it yet. Now
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that would be explosive. I bet it's the sex stuff. I bet it's
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I bet it's exactly what you're talking. Shelle has like let doty know that,
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like shit's not perfect and they're going through it and probably has kept her
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up to speed on a semi regular basis on that, and that's what it
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is. Yep. Yeah, absolutely, all right, we figured it out.
57:16
Excellent. Anything else, it's over. We're at hagis no I think
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yeah, I think that's well, I mean, yeah, excited for next
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week. Yeah, all right, well you guys, thank you so much
57:31
for listening. Obviously, join me over on the Patreon Patreon dot com slash
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drama Darling. We are doing Summer House tomorrow as well as a bonus episode
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of vander pum Villa, and the following week, the bonus episode will be
57:45
Top Chef. I'll be vacillating between the two and it's going to be super
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fun. And thank you so much for listening, and Emily, have a
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fabulous day. I'm going to do that my guys. Drama, Darling Drama,
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