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The Last of Us S2 EP1 Review · Ryder Lee

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  Speaker 1: At it. It's been a while. Showtime with the Cube.
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  Speaker 1: If you guys don't remember who this is across from me,
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  Speaker 1: mister rider Ley, the infamous one. He's back with us
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  Speaker 1: again as we're gonna be covering the Last of Us
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  Speaker 1: season two. He covered season one with me and so
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  Speaker 1: a rider talk to the people out there, how you
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  Speaker 1: been doing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing great, Cube doing great, and I'm excited to
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  Speaker 2: be back to talk this show with you because it
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  Speaker 2: was really fun doing the last season, and I think
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  Speaker 2: that this season is going to be another roller coaster.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna get into it. But I didn't man this.
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  Speaker 2: I did not like this episode. I'm just gonna come
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  Speaker 2: out and say it did not like it. Now, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't play the games, so I don't really exactly know
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  Speaker 2: what's coming.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, of course, of course. Now they said
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  Speaker 1: that they've taken a lot of liberties with the story
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  Speaker 1: in this particular season, so you're gonna be having some
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  Speaker 1: things move a little bit differently. I have seen because
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  Speaker 1: whenever The Last of Us comes out as it did
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  Speaker 1: the previous season, A lot of people on TikTok were
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  Speaker 1: comparing the shows scenes to the scenes in the actual
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  Speaker 1: video game itself some of the cut scenes. So it
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  Speaker 1: does seem like some of the some of the cut
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  Speaker 1: scenes were kind of similar. But from what I understand, uh,
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  Speaker 1: they're they're taking a few liberties, they're moving a few
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  Speaker 1: things around, They're gonna be adding a character or two, uh,
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  Speaker 1: to kind of flush out the story a little bit more.
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  Speaker 1: Because even though in a video game you're getting some
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  Speaker 1: story elements, you're not getting quote unquote like I would say,
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  Speaker 1: full character development per se, because most of the time
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  Speaker 1: you're playing the game, you know what I'm saying, you
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  Speaker 1: having your cut scenes that kind of moved the plot along,
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  Speaker 1: but a lot of times you're you've got some type
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  Speaker 1: of mission that you're doing. They breaking to this facility,
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  Speaker 1: getting this potion, don't get eight in the process, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean that's pretty much it.
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  Speaker 1: So so, yeah, they said they were gonna take a
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  Speaker 1: few liberties, uh with this season, and so uh, let's
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and just just let's go ahead and start
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  Speaker 1: diving into right out to get gate. We Uh, we
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  Speaker 1: start off before we ended the previous season with Allie
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  Speaker 1: and Joel.
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  Speaker 2: And they just do the stair, They just staring at
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  Speaker 2: each other, they've been staring at each other for like
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  Speaker 2: two years now, apparently, because that's been the last time
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  Speaker 2: that we've seen now there's just been out there on
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  Speaker 2: that hill, just staring at each other.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just there. You know, Uh, you're
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  Speaker 1: not lying to me, are you, Joe, I swear, and
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  Speaker 1: she knows that he's lying. I mean, come on now,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's it's pretty it's pretty damn obvious, all right,
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  Speaker 1: And so we actually jumped five years later, what dude
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  Speaker 1: so much?
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  Speaker 2: That is the thing that irks the shit out of me. Cube.
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  Speaker 2: I hate the time jumps in these types of shows
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  Speaker 2: and in movies like Period. I just do not like
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  Speaker 2: time jumps. I am not a fan of time jumps.
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  Speaker 1: The only time that I've why you're not well.
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  Speaker 2: The reason that I'm not a fan is because you
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  Speaker 2: cut out so much of the story, right, Like I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to see Joel and Ellie get to where they
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  Speaker 2: currently are, which we already know that they were in
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  Speaker 2: Wyoming because in the first season Joel went to meet
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  Speaker 2: his brother there and then this whenever they traveled back
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  Speaker 2: down to get to the facility to try and get
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  Speaker 2: the cure, right, But I wanted to see them get
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  Speaker 2: back to there. The only time that I have ever
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  Speaker 2: been okay with the time jump was in the House
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  Speaker 2: of the Dragon from season one to season two, and
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  Speaker 2: I didn't like it at first. I was like, oh
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  Speaker 2: my god, this is going to ruin this freaking show.
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  Speaker 2: But they did it in House of Dragons so flawlessly,
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  Speaker 2: and because a lot of the characters were left the same.
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  Speaker 2: The only one that they kind of age jumped up
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  Speaker 2: was the few of the younger girls. They had their
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  Speaker 2: adult counterparts, right, But time jumps just completely ruined the
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  Speaker 2: story because we want to see we want to see
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  Speaker 2: a through plot, a through line of how like a
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  Speaker 2: congruent section of storytelling. That's the way that I like it, right.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to see jumping around and hopping around
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  Speaker 2: within the story, like I want to see everything from
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  Speaker 2: the beginning to the end. And I'm just not a
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  Speaker 2: fan of time drums. I just do not like time jumps.
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  Speaker 2: And as soon as I seen that they did they
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  Speaker 2: brought up the five years later thing on the screen,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, Oh my god, which is such a shame,
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  Speaker 2: because dude, the first season of the show was probably
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  Speaker 2: one of the best seasons of television I personally think
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  Speaker 2: that I've seen in a really long time. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it was nominated for several Emmys. I didn't win anything,
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  Speaker 2: but it was like it was at least nominated. And
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  Speaker 2: HBO just keeps banging out these bangers dude all the time,
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, yeah, I just did what did did you
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  Speaker 2: like the time jump? Did you think that that was
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  Speaker 2: the best way to serve the story or what?
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  Speaker 1: Well? Okay, so, so the main issue with the time
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  Speaker 1: jump is that you almost need to feel like it's
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  Speaker 1: believable that the characters would be five years later. Joel
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  Speaker 1: looks a little bit more aged and weathered, Ellie kind
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  Speaker 1: of looks the same, like like I know what they're saying,
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  Speaker 1: Like it's it's supposed to be five years later. You
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  Speaker 1: feel like Ellie would be a little bit more matured
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  Speaker 1: as far as physically, and she's not. So it kind
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  Speaker 1: of makes the the time jump not believable, you know.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's the way you kind of feel
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  Speaker 1: when you look at it and say, you're like, all right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I understand what you're telling me, but I
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  Speaker 1: look at the I look at the people and they
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  Speaker 1: kind of feel similar. You know, you don't you don't
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  Speaker 1: quite feel that five years And the only issue with
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  Speaker 1: the jumping uh, jumping back five years is or jumping
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  Speaker 1: forward five years, uh, is that you kind of miss
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  Speaker 1: all of the build up to why Ellie is not
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  Speaker 1: feeling Joel right now? You know what I'm saying. You
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  Speaker 1: kind of just jump right back into it and she's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I ain't feeling Joel. It's just like, which I'm assuming.
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  Speaker 1: I'm assuming that we're gonna have a flashback or two
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  Speaker 1: and we might see some some nuanced things uh later
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  Speaker 1: on in this season of what potentially caused the rift
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  Speaker 1: between Alien Joel, but it it kind of just it
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  Speaker 1: jumps off the screen. Is like, all right, you need
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  Speaker 1: to go from where they were inseparable. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, to believe now that she hates his goods
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  Speaker 1: pretty much, and so trying to trying to make that jump,
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  Speaker 1: it just feels it feels a little awkward, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It just feels a little awkward. Let's
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  Speaker 1: just say that. I mean, how you feel about what
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  Speaker 1: I just said.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that absolutely. And another thing
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  Speaker 2: that I did not like that they did is they
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  Speaker 2: took somebody that's supposed to be super bad oss, which
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  Speaker 2: is supposed to be Joel, and then they turned basically
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  Speaker 2: like pussy fighted him in a big way. And that
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  Speaker 2: is a big thing. That's a big no no that
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  Speaker 2: I don't like either, is that you take these bad
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  Speaker 2: ass characters that you've built up and then you take
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  Speaker 2: them down low to the bottom of the totem p.
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  Speaker 2: You know. I was like a character arcers or character development.
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  Speaker 2: They did that from iron Man one and two. Tony
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  Speaker 2: Stark was just super badass, and then in the third
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  Speaker 2: one they made him not badass, right, And that's why
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  Speaker 2: I hated the third one. I did not like the
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  Speaker 2: third iron Man. It's it's a close between the second
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  Speaker 2: one and the third one. But that was the main
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  Speaker 2: reason that I did not like the third iron Man
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  Speaker 2: movie was because they took this mythical figure and then
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  Speaker 2: they dropped him down to like just being. They did
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  Speaker 2: that with Spider Man too. The first three spider Man
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  Speaker 2: Toby Maguire movies, first two Spider Man movies incredible because
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  Speaker 2: Spider Man is badass. Spider Man can do anything. Spider
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  Speaker 2: Man can save your grandma from a burning building, no problem,
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  Speaker 2: no issue, but then in the third Spider Man movie,
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  Speaker 2: they make him lose his powers and everything and he's
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  Speaker 2: having problems shooting his web and all that, and I'm like, bro, like,
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  Speaker 2: we don't want to see that shit, Like I want
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  Speaker 2: to see the characters be more badass, do more badassory.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I guess if they feel like they do that,
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  Speaker 1: then you know you have that that whole character struggle thing,
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  Speaker 1: which I guess is what they're trying to go for,
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  Speaker 1: the whole character struggle, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: So and.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I was I was looking for so Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: here's here's here's the point. Here's a place where that
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  Speaker 1: that could have worked is in the New Captain of
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  Speaker 1: America movie, all Right, Brave New World because Anthony Malkie Mackie,
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  Speaker 1: who's the Falcon, he didn't have the super Soldier syrup,
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  Speaker 1: so he could have went through moments where he didn't
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  Speaker 1: have his suit and he was kind of helpless in
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  Speaker 1: a particular fight because these people that he's fighting are
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  Speaker 1: pretty much superhuman, you know what I'm saying, And so
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  Speaker 1: that would that would build more of tension as far
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  Speaker 1: as man, Maybe I need to look into taking that
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  Speaker 1: syrum you know what I'm saying. So that would have
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  Speaker 1: been as opposed to people who have their powers. They've
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  Speaker 1: had their powers and all of a sudden, it's just like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they just lose him for a little bit. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's just kind of it's weird. Let's just say that
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  Speaker 1: it is.
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  Speaker 2: Weird, and I feel like it degrades the character and
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  Speaker 2: the character building. I mean, they didn't have to do
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  Speaker 2: that right out of the jump, Like they could have
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  Speaker 2: waited until season three, because apparently the second game is
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  Speaker 2: going to be split up in the two seasons, so
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  Speaker 2: you have the Last of Us, you know, Part one
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  Speaker 2: video game, and then you have Part two. So they're
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  Speaker 2: splitting Part two into seasons two and three, right, so
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  Speaker 2: they could have put they could have put him on
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  Speaker 2: this arc in like season three when they're getting ready
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  Speaker 2: to boot him, you know what I mean, which they
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  Speaker 2: might boot him, right, they might boot him in this season,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know, it might happen at the end
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  Speaker 2: of this season. And people were talking about this event,
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  Speaker 2: this big event that is supposed to happen in episode
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  Speaker 2: six of the season. So I don't know if that
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  Speaker 2: the event that they're talking about is going to be
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  Speaker 2: the accident of.
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  Speaker 1: Joel. You know.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, spoiler alert, if you haven't watched
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  Speaker 2: the new episode, then obviously don't continue to watch or
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  Speaker 2: listen unless you want things spoiled.
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  Speaker 1: But what spoiler alert People shouldn't know like that, this
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  Speaker 1: is this is spoiler all right, that's all we do.
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  Speaker 1: We do nothing but spoiler. I mean, we don't. These
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  Speaker 1: are not any non spoiler type of breakdowns at all.
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  Speaker 1: So we're at Jackson, okay, which is the city in
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  Speaker 1: the mountains. All right, there's been Jackson Hole.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe that's the richest part of Wyoming bro super rich.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Joel has kind of became the architect
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  Speaker 1: of the city. From what we figure out, they've got
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  Speaker 1: they're accepting more refugees into Jackson, which is creating a
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  Speaker 1: strain on Jackson because they're not able to create enough
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  Speaker 1: housing and things of that nature quick enough for him.
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  Speaker 1: And so we've got that strain. We see a whole
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  Speaker 1: kind of like a tribunal as far as a government
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  Speaker 1: of Jackson itself with Tommy, his wife and some of
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  Speaker 1: the other townspeople. Uh so we're getting back to kind
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  Speaker 1: of the whole hierarchy type of deal, which is what
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  Speaker 1: I tell people all the time, Like when when when
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  Speaker 1: people tell me that, oh, let's dismantle the government, I said,
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  Speaker 1: there will be another government to take its place. And
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  Speaker 1: we see that in the last of us, like everything's
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  Speaker 1: fall apart, but there's still a power structure. Yeah. That's
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  Speaker 1: that's the way. That's the way humanity works now and
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  Speaker 1: forevermore because everybody, uh is you can't leave it to
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  Speaker 1: people to be able to sustain themselves. Let's just say that,
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  Speaker 1: all right and do the right thing.
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  Speaker 2: You can't.
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  Speaker 1: You can't just leave it to folks. Man, Some folks
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  Speaker 1: need to be led, all right, and if they're not lead,
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  Speaker 1: it's a problem. All right. You get, you get all,
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  Speaker 1: you get all kind of you get a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: non productive folks and folks who kind of don't know, uh,
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  Speaker 1: exactly what to do. And so we we see we
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  Speaker 1: see that, we see that they set up patrols uh
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  Speaker 1: to go and to uh find infected get rid of them.
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  Speaker 1: If they see any type of things that look weird,
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  Speaker 1: then they report back, uh. And we get early on
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  Speaker 1: that Ellie is extremely rebellions currently, like she's in she's
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  Speaker 1: in one hundred percent state of rebellion, like any any
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  Speaker 1: type of authority figure. She's nope, I'm doing my own thing.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought you're going to say extremely lgbt Q.
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  Speaker 1: What she is? Now look, hey, I will give it
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  Speaker 1: to him. All right. She ate po Nanny in the game. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this ain't This ain't the first time. This ain't the
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  Speaker 1: first time she she was eating Poonanni in the game. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So I A they didn't slide this in all right.
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  Speaker 1: Now with that previous season with the TD's, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if they were gay in the game
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  Speaker 1: or not, but they slip that in for a full episode. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I slid that with it on?
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  Speaker 2: It is this?
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  Speaker 1: Like is this the whole episode? It is? I mean
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  Speaker 1: as soon as.
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  Speaker 2: I started watching it, I was like thinking about thinking
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  Speaker 2: about us reviewing the last season, and I was like, man,
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  Speaker 2: when are they going to put in this gay ship?
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  Speaker 2: This gay ship is coming anytime now. As soon as
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  Speaker 2: that girl walked in to like talk with Joel, and
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  Speaker 2: then Joel basically you know, gives us the exposition that
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  Speaker 2: she's Elie's best friend, I was like, they ain't just
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  Speaker 2: as friends, but they ain't just best friends?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, you feel that tension Okay, they trying
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  Speaker 1: to create that tension early. You know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: They try to create it early on.
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  Speaker 2: And then when they were then when they were they
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  Speaker 2: were out on the mission or whatever to find supplies
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  Speaker 2: and stuff. When they were out on patrol, and they
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  Speaker 2: were both on the horseback and her and her best
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  Speaker 2: friend were talking to each other, and then she was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: what about Cat. I thought you were going to be
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  Speaker 2: like in the cat or whatever, and she was like nah,
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  Speaker 2: And then she said, oh, well, oh you're so you're
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  Speaker 2: into somebody else. Huh. I was like, there ain't no
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  Speaker 2: way they're turning Ellie straight. They ain't gonna flip flop
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  Speaker 2: on this whole bad boy. But I thought maybe for
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  Speaker 2: a minute that they were, you know, because it seems
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  Speaker 2: to be that that kind of stuff is going by
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  Speaker 2: the wayside and people are you know, pushing that stuff
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: as much because of the Trump the Trump new Trump presidency.
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  Speaker 2: So it seems like I was like, are they really
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  Speaker 2: going to switch your character back to like the street
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  Speaker 2: like and then made you think we need to keep
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  Speaker 2: her lesbian? Well, well, whenever they were at the dance,
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: right and then that guy that was that was like
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  Speaker 2: the patrol officer or whatever. I thought, maybe, oh hey,
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  Speaker 2: this might be like I set up for Ellie, like
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  Speaker 2: turning straight, and maybe that's her interest. And then whenever
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  Speaker 2: heard she came and grabbed her and started dancing with
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  Speaker 2: I was like, nope, nope, here comes the gay ship.
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  Speaker 2: More gaze shit, more gaze ship.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, but they they recreated this kids from the video game.
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  Speaker 1: So like Elie and Dinah, they they are love interest
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  Speaker 1: in the video game. So I'm not going I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going straight just poo poo on their party on that
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  Speaker 1: they they've stayed true to what the video game was doing.
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  Speaker 2: It.
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  Speaker 1: Look, Ellie didn't even look like she could be straight.
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  Speaker 1: If they told me that, ally, like Dick, I'd be like,
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  Speaker 1: there's no way, I said, have you looked at have
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  Speaker 1: you looked at Bella Ramsey? There's nothing. There's nothing that
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  Speaker 1: makes me think that she wants penis Okay, like a
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  Speaker 1: real live one that she may want to deal there.
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  Speaker 1: She probably uses that the toys, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: but like one would real flesh on them. A dude, No,
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  Speaker 1: you can't make me believe this hell of the next.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, don't, don't, don't get me wrong. I love
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  Speaker 2: the gay shape. Put more gay ship in there. We
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: need all the ga ship. We need to make everything
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  Speaker 2: more game, more flamboyant. We needed we needed like another
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  Speaker 2: full on gay episode like we did in season one.
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  Speaker 1: No, we don't need that.
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  Speaker 2: We don't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that episode I was I was hoping I
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  Speaker 1: was gonna get somewhere with it, and I felt like
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  Speaker 1: it left me in a place too cold for tears.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I'm saying. I was there
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  Speaker 1: was that where I was like, I'm sitting there, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, was this a filler? Represent this is what
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  Speaker 1: she's like. It's like, man, I feel like this is
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  Speaker 1: a filler. Okay uh. Now we've been introduced to a
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  Speaker 1: new of the fun Guy zombie, which are the stalkers.
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  Speaker 1: Okay uh? These they actually act more like cats. That's
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  Speaker 1: what I kind of refer to the way of this
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  Speaker 1: particular fun Guy zombie responded and so they kind of
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: crept around head and then attacked. I'm not sure if
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: this type of zombie was in the game or not.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I thought we have. I thought we had looked through
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: all the zombies and I didn't see that one. But
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: what do you think about the adaptation that they did
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: there and how they're saying that kind of the the zombies,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: some of them are evolving, some of them are still
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: you know, your regular I hear noise, I run straight
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: at it. But this one was kind of tactical. How
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: do you feel about that particular instance of that that
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: particular zombie. I like it.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: I think that as a new dynamic to it because
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: now like you can't really just go out and hunt
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: them like they've kind of have been doing. Now now
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: the roles can be reversed and the humans can now
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: be hunted by these things. It doesn't have to be
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: like in a giant horde or whatever they call them
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: in the series or in the video game. I'm discussing
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: its horde because it's normally what zombie shows and TV
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: games call them, or movies or whatever, is like hordes
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: of zombies. But don't quote me on that. I don't
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: know if they're actual hordes or not. But it changes
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: up the dynamic that maybe one or two of these
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: things could like essentially take out a lot of people,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: so they all don't have to be It doesn't have
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: to be a gigantic hord anymore. It can just be
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: like a couple of them, which adds a whole other
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: layer to that. And I thought, because we've never seen
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: one that was like this, I don't think that we've
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: seen one that had the yellow like crown on it.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Did you notice that it looked like it had like
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: a yellow crown coming up out of its head and stuff.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: And I was like, Okay, this is an new kind
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: of like a rein deer. Like it was kind of
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: looking like a yellow horned rein deer or whatever. And
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I was like okay, which I figured that Ellie was
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: going to get bit, but I think that this bite
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: is going to because we haven't seen this type of
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: zombie before, so I think that this is going to
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: affect her in some kind of way. It might be
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: detrimental to her because whenever she got bit, you seen
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: the yellow like little yellow tentacles coming out of the wound.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen that or not, but
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I kept my eye on and there was like these
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: yellow tentacles coming out of the wound, and I was like, Okay,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: this is going to be problems for her. This is
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: going to create some issues for her. And then we
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: see her in the bathroom whenever she's like I thought
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: maybe she was like cutting it out, like getting out
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: the bite, but I don't think that that's what she
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: was doing. She was actually cutting the wound to make
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: it not look like a bite mark.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Right uh huh yeah, yeah, h yeah, make it look
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: like she got cut. Uh yeah, and uh it looks
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: like a will in our chat says that the stalkers
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: were in the game, so so this was like something
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: that that that is staying true to the game. When
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I seen that, I ain't gonna lie to you. When
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: she turned around and shot, I was like, okay, man,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: she knew she was behind her. And then I was like,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: what the fuck did it go? I was like, how
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: how this thing? Now that she was gonna turn around
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: and shoot like it seems hyper intelligent, you know what
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. And it kind of reminded me of I
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen Army of the Dead with
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: a Batista in it, but they actually have a hierarchy
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: of zombie in that particular film as well. So if
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: you get bit by the uh what I want to
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: call them, the alpha zombie, the one that they created,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: then you're you're a smart zombie. But if you get
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: bit by one of those zombies, then you're a dumb zombie.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: So you just like, uh, you know what I'm saying.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: So they've got like a hierarchy of zombies.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Within that smart dumb zombie.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Bro, Yeah, you're a dumb zombie. Okay, you're just not.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: And uh, the whole premise of the of the zombies
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: is just to spread the infection. That's it. I don't
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: they're not even trying to eat like that like this,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you know. It's it's uh using in zombie movies you
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: have where they are trying to feast on flesh, okay,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: and then I mean they just trying to spread the infection.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: That's it. The continue and spread of the infection until
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: everything's gone. And uh, we actually seen because I was
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: wondering about this, we actually seen where uh they had
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: attacked a grizzly bear yea and killed it. And I
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: was like, are we about to see a zombie Grizzly
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. I was like, hold on
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the second, now, y'all mighty close to that thing. I
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna jump up or not.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: You know, I would love to see a zombie Grizzly.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the zombie Grizzly, say.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Probably blow the whole budget on creating the CGI, a
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: freaking zombie Grizzly though.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yep, yep. And so uh during this time,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: you know, they see the blood trail and everything, and
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: you know, Cats the leader and she's like, hey, we
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: need to go back, we need to get people, we
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: need to inform people. And you know, Dinah and Ellie
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: obviously they've been on these type of scalps and missions before,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: and you know they're kind of in bolding. Ellie is
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: especially embolden because she knows she's immune. So she's just like, whatever,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, Ellie, you can still die. You know what
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. If they rip your throat out, like you
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: can still you still die. I mean like if if
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: fifty of them start start tearing you apart, like you're
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: gonna die. So I mean, but she's kind of emboldened
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: because she knows she's I mean, so she takes unneeded risk,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: and she's taking risk with other people who are not
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, which is gonna bite her in that ass eventually,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: and that this is gonna it's gonna bite her in
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: the ass this season, we can I can almost one
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: hundred percent guarantee that at some point in time because
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: she's taking unneeded risk when they went into that building.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Unneeded risk. Okay, you're going into an enclosed space, dark,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: you know, you don't know how many of them's in there,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Like that's that's like a risk that you don't take
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: in a situation like this. But you know, they live
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: in their best life and there what they say, some
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: live in my best life right now?
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I think that I was just confused by the beginning
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: the opening of this because again it was Joel and Ollie.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: We picked up from the last season. Because again I
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: haven't played the game, so I'm not aware of the
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: things that happen in the future. Who all these characters are.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: So I'm just basing it off of what I'm seeing
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: on TVs. So don't come at me, right. So, but
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: this Abbey character that's there, apparently she's really important in
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: the game.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: But I thought it's extremely important.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: But but was she in the last season? Did we
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: see her in this season?
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: But her No, her dad was part of the Firefly,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: so he was he was the surgeon that Joe keealed.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: So how are we supposed to put that together, just that.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: They're standing at the grave, so you just the same.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: It's kind of it's kind of assumption this. So this
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: is taken into account that most people who watch it
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: already kind of know the underlying story. Let's say that.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Let's just say that, Yeah, I was just confused because
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: they were all standing there and I knew that I
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: had to do with the hospital and everything in the
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: firefly stuff. But we've never seen these people before. We
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: don't know who they are, so just there and I'm like, Okay, well,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: it'd been nice to have a little bit of a
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: run up to this, like give us, give us a
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: flashback or some shit. I don't know, but it just
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: felt like.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe when Joel and Ellie are getting away, like
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: a few minutes later, like they come up and like
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: you could have seen that last season and they'd be like,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: the hell's going on? You know what I'm saying, Like
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: they see people dead out there and they go running
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: inside and you can see see the moment of pain
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: and Abby and we may and we may see the
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: see that this season in a potential flashback, but they
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: didn't give it to us early. But uh, there was
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: one thing they was saying with Abby in the game,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: she's like a butcher, like she's like, you know, like
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: stout and this girl is a little bit more petite
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: in nature. And what I'll say to that is.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: That they should have got General war Tagler for that
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: role then.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: But it's it's hard to find people who are going
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: to be a good at acting that's gonna also be
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: like swollen up. You know what I'm saying, thinking.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Of the wrong person. What's the girl from started Jenna Krano,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking of.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: And look it's I'm just I'm saying this with the
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: utmost respect. But she's kind of fat, now, you know
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like she ain't built no more. She's
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: just like fat. Didn't mean that, yeah, which wouldn't mean that,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: you know, still wouldn't you know if I was a
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: single man, you know, take a peek at it, you
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But she, uh, she put some
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: weight on, okay, and quite a bit. They want a
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: little bit. It was a lot. And I was like,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: that's not the Gina Corno. I've seen her on what
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: was it, Pat pat Patrick Patrick? Yeah, Yeah, I seen her.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I've seen her on one of his uh, one of
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: his podcasts, and I was like, man.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Who's dad? You look for me?
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: And I was like, is Gina Corano? I was like, so,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: let me pull up old food And I said, damn, girt,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: is she from like a year ago seeing you on
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: The Man the Lawyer? What happened? She got fired from
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Disney on that had a spiral. Uh, some people have
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: issues with feet, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, she's
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: doing She's not doing the mixed martial arts anymore, so
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean that that could that could be
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: potentially affecting there. But of course, you know, we go
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: through the stalkers, We get through that, they get back,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: they tell the council, Hey, these things are smart. They
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: moved different. It tried to hide it, ambush me. And
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: they're like, well what you talking about? You know what
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. They're like, man, she lined, and they were like, man,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think she lined. Tommy didn't think she was lying.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: And so we go back. We go back over to
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Joel and he's in therapy. Okay, how did you feel
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: about Joel being in therapy with Gail?
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Well, I thought that it would make more sense, but
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: we didn't find out the exact scenario of why he's
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: doing that or what the problem is between him Relei,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: which was going to be flushed out leader in this season.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: But did we see last season Joel killing her husband?
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: No, So I don't understand what we're gonna Yeah, we're
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: gonna see a flashback of that from what I understand
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: because they've casted her husband. So it's just I don't know.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: It introduced a lot of stuff early that you like,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: hold on, did I miss up? Because I thought I
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: miss something to this entire episode.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what is going on? Did I do? I
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: need to go back and rewatch the entire first season,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: but I have a really good memory, and I'm like
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: thinking that I'm crazy or something. I'm like, did I
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: see any of this ship that they're talking about? And
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: we didn't?
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I ain't gonna lie that mess me up.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Like I was like, Eugene, I said, hold on, who's
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: this woman? I was like, because you know, we are
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: taking a couple of years in between the makings of
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: these seasons, which is absolutely acidine. It's the dumbest thing
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: ever Harry to fuck up. You know what, I'm saying, well,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: my goodness, they used to bang out thirty episodes in
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: the season, and you know, in seven months you had
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: the next season.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, it was like one at least
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: one a year at the least yeah. Yeah.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I mean you'd be right back to the next count
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: the year you have another season.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: So it's just like, man, come on, y'all, hear you well,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: some of them are even longer. Dude, Handmates to Hell
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: waited three years until the new season and it just
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: dropped last week with three episodes. Uh, Stranger Things is
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: going to be three years since the last season. So
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: it's not getting any better. It's just getting worse. I
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: think the only thing that was going to be expedited is,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: excuse me, the Fallout series on Amazon. Apparently they're trying
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: to push that to be like a almost like a
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: yearly season. But that's what they should be doing with
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: all of it. I mean, waiting two years is just
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: completely ridiculous. It's dumb. Like Yellowjackets new season premiered I
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: don't know, ten weeks ago or whatever, and I had
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: forgotten everything up until that point, like the first two seasons.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Was the media. Yeah, I mean you've consumed other things,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: so you're just like, I mean, what it so hold on,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: let me try to refresh myself and you can't. Like
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: it's just like you're like, damn, man, you feel like
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: you And then especially when they introduced stuff that you
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: haven't seen and like it's legit, like you haven't seen
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: it like that, that makes it even more weird, you know,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: because now you're like, oh shit, I missed something last season,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: but you didn't, so it's got it's got your little confused.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: You're like, damn, but uh but yeah.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking through the entire thing. I
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: was like, what is going I'm like confused. During the
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: entire first episode, I'm like, what is going on with
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: this thing?
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Like everything that you killed my husband and I hate you.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I was like news the moments. And then then it
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: makes you think.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Then it makes you think that Ellie is actually mad
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Joel for something that we had seen, for not letting.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Her go through with the cure or whatever.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: But I don't. I don't think that that's it. I
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: don't think that that's what she had him for, but
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: we haven't seen it.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's just the first episode started out weird,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: like it started out weird, like Joel. Joel's trying to
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: he's trying to deal with the fact that Allie kind
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: of didn't want to want much to do with him.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Now Allie's just you know, being rambuctious what they say,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: she's just being a being a teenager.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Uh. And then.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: You know, we've got Abby who pops up on the scene,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: and if you don't really know what's going on there,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: you're just like, oh, okay, we got to go find y'all.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh all right. So it's like it's like
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: a whole it's like a whole lot of stuff where
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: you just like, I feel like I missed something. That's
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: what you feel like.