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Tony Tursky - 60-64 Legends Champion | Clydesdale Champion Series · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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What is going on, everybody?
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Welcome to the Clydesdale Media Podcast.
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My name is Scott Switzer.
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I'm the Clydesdale.
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I am so honored and privileged to have with me this year's Legends 60 to 64 year old champion, Tony Tursky.
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Tony, what's going on, man?
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How much, man?
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Thanks for having me.
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It's an honor.
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My pleasure to have to be on the show, Scott.
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Yeah, it's been so fun having all the champions on.
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I'm trying to get every single one of them.
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There's a couple I'm having a hard time getting contact information with, but once I figure those out, we'll hopefully have all 14 champions on in the next couple weeks.
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Yeah, I've seen some of them on your Instagram.
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So yeah, I'm super excited about it.
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Yeah, so you've been around the sport for a long time, but I want to go even further back.
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You're a man who used to sell pizza.
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I did.
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I owned a little string of a small string line of pizza parlors out here called Stadium Pizza here in the Temecula Valley.
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But I've been I've been in pizza all my life.
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Last probably 45 years I've been doing pizza.
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But, yeah, I owned a small line of pizza parlors out here in Temecula since 1988, actually.
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So how does a kid go from being a pizza guy to a man who gets into fitness and owns a couple businesses in the fitness area?
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And that all stems from, was it healthy pizza?
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Well, I think our pizza was healthy, but like I would tell all my friends,
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My athletes in my gym eat pizza at moderation, right?
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But enjoy it.
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But I went from the pizza parlors.
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I kind of got out of pizza.
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About 10 years ago, I started selling off the pizza parlors and got into what I've always wanted to do and be a coach.
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I have a phys ed major out of Chico State.
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And I've always wanted to coach.
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That's all I've ever really loved doing.
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Even when I was in the pizza parlors running the restaurants, I felt like I was a coach.
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So I started selling them off about 10 years ago.
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And then since then, that's when I jumped into CrossFit.
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My wife introduced me to CrossFit about 11 years ago.
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I went out and got my L1 and grabbed one guy and told him I wanted to start coaching him for this thing called CrossFit.
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That one guy is still in my gym today after all those years.
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And now we have him and 215 other members in our gym.
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Wow.
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I was just listening to a podcast today where you were at 180.
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Yeah.
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And that was just a year ago.
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And now you're at 215.
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Yeah.
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Well, unfortunately, there's been a couple of gyms in the area that have closed down in our Temecula, Murrieta area.
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Yeah.
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and we had a bunch of them come on over here.
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And so we added about 30 to 40 of those members in the last actually month and a half, Scott.
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So that's great for business, right?
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New customers coming through the door, but what does that do to your infrastructure and how do you handle that?
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Well, like I tell everybody, it turned into a business instead of a hobby right away.
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So fortunately enough, I've been an entrepreneur in my own business, my own boss, if you will.
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for since 1988.
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And so it was pretty easy for me.
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Like I'm not able to train as much.
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I'm not able to do as much for myself as far as CrossFit competitions are concerned.
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Cause I literally have to run this gym, my box, like a business.
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So once those other people came in, I noticed I needed a few more bars.
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I needed some more boxes.
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I needed some more weights.
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I needed a baby changing table cause a lot of moms came over.
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And I put it all in and showed my members that I was here to do business and make this place a great place for them to be.
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So I read somewhere that your mom put you in sports as a kid and your favorite part about being in sports was being on a team.
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So does that translate to then now you're the boss of all these coaches.
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There's this huge opportunity coming through the door and that means there's opportunity for them and you.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, man.
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Um, I wrote that in my boy, you did your homework, Scott.
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I'm, I'm, I'm impressed.
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I love it.
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Um,
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I was a part of a team like when I played basketball.
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When I graduated from high school, I was like five foot three.
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I grew like six inches in college for some reason.
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But I was on the basketball team.
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There were 13 guys on the team.
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I was number 13.
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However, I was voted by the team as a team captain, actually, by the team.
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So I was pretty honored by that.
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But I was the little guy.
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I just wanted to be a part of the team because.
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Kind of felt like if I didn't have something to do, I was going to be in trouble.
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I came from a broken family.
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My mom did the best job she could.
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My dad wasn't around too much at all.
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And so I needed guidance.
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And the person that gave that to me was my high school basketball coach, a guy by the name of Tom Orlich, who was one of the top high school basketball coaches in the country.
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He still, to me, this day is a very good friend of mine after 50 plus years.
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I actually send him text messages on Father's Day and telling him, thank you very much.
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And on Christmas, he actually sent me a text this year on Christmas.
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He beat me to it.
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So I just wanted to be a part of the team.
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So did having a mentor like that in high school make you want to be a coach? 100%.
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I wanted to be just like Coach Orlitz, big time.
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I wanted to influence people.
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I wanted to lead people.
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I wanted people to believe what I was doing was the right thing.
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I couldn't have ever, like I say, I text Coach Orlitz every year and tell him thank you for the man that he kind of led me to be because I
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I mirror a lot of my coaching this day with Coach Orleach.
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So you own this affiliate.
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I went out on the website.
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You have lots of coaches with lots of credentials.
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You seem to have drank the Kool-Aid quick because you have a lot of different certifications yourself.
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Is it more fun coaching the athletes or coaching the coaches?
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Oh, the athletes.
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Oh, I love my athletes.
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It's more fun coaching the athletes.
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I love my coaches.
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My coaches all do a great job, but man, I love my athletes.
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I have a policy.
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When they walk in the door, I tell all my coaches, make sure you tell everybody hi.
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That's one of our first things you'll notice when you walk in our gym.
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Everybody says hi to you.
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And if they don't, then I let them know it.
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But I know every 215 of my members, I know their names.
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I touch base with them when they're in the gym.
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I walk around and ask questions.
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So coaching my athletes and watching what they do and their accomplishments, that's one thing.
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But getting to know them and their families and their lives, that's another thing.
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I always tell our coaches, you can coach.
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You do the best job that you possibly can out there.
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But this is a service-oriented business.
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You need to service these people as best as possible.
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Coach them, care for them, but make sure that this is your job is to be of service to these members.
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Because if you're not, we're going to lose them.
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My co-host Jamie is saying hi in the chat.
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She said, I'm here mid-zone too.
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So sorry to miss this one, Tony.
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Oh, hi, Jamie.
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So I'm going to go to a weird place.
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You come from a broken family, and then you have this gym that you make sure you know everybody's name.
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Does that bring together a family for you in a different way?
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Scott, this is my family.
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My wife and I work side by side.
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Never all our life.
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We just had our 36th wedding anniversary.
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My wife and I have worked together in the pizza parlors.
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She's right next door at our health and wellness studio.
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This is...
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My family.
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I have a mom, I have a sister, I have nephews and nieces, but I spend every day with these people.
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Scott, I come in at 6.30 in the morning and I leave at 6.30 at night.
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And I'm not asking anybody to feel sorry for me because I love what I do.
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So this is my family, period.
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So in high school, when you're playing basketball for Coach Harlick, is this what you pictured in the future?
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Or did it take a couple curves and end up where it was supposed to be anyway?
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No, it took so many curves along the way.
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Because when I was in college, all I wanted to do, like I told you, was be a coach.
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I wanted to coach basketball.
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I couldn't pass this California basic educational skills test.
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It was called the CBEST.
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I couldn't pass it.
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So I had to leave school.
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I was done.
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And I went and worked for some friends for $5 an hour in the pizza business.
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And then we moved over to Temecula.
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Long story short, I just got done with the pizza.
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I just got tired of the pizza business.
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And I thought, I will never tell you I fell in love with CrossFit because I didn't.
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But I fell in love with coaching.
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I fell in love with coaching.
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being surrounded by a bunch of people that like to do some crazy stuff.
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And I was, once I got into CrossFit, I was good at it.
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I was older.
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I think my first CrossFit workout, I know what it was.
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It was Jerry, the hero rod, Jerry.
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And that was probably when I was 48, 49.
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And then I just said, I want to coach.
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I like the coaches that I was around, but I wanted to teach people what to do because I was kind of getting in the way of my other coaches when I didn't have my L1.
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I was trying to coach people when I shouldn't have been in classes.
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So I got in trouble.
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So my wife's like, you better go out and get your L1 and do it yourself.
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So I did.
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And it's funny you say that because when I was growing up, I wanted to be a sports broadcaster.
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Did I think it looked like this?
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Not at all.
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Right.
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But this is what I do, right?
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This is.
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All of it.
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Right.
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So it just, you know, at 50, I found this and it was everything I wanted it to be.
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And exactly.
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And my story is the same way.
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Like I wanted to be a high school college basketball coach, either one of the two.
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And all of a sudden I'm coaching 215 members and 16 different coaches.
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And it's exactly what I want to do.
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Exactly what I pictured.
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So you do CrossFit because your wife tells you you're going to be good at it.
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Well, I did CrossFit.
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She says she knew I could do so.
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I could do some crazy shit when I was a kid, man.
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I saw somebody walk on their hands, and so I was obsessed.
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I had to try to walk on my hands.
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Jump roping was never a problem.
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Lifting weights, I never did it, but...
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I'm a coachable guy.
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I've been in sports all my life.
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And so I picked it up pretty easy.
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And so once I jumped in, I'm a little bit obsessive compulsive when I do stuff still to this day.
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And so when I jumped into CrossFit, dude,
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I was in.
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I drank the Kool-Aid.
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I was in.
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I wanted to coach.
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I wanted to do a ring muscle-up.
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I wanted to do everything that they were doing.
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And I was good at it at the start.
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And so I had success.
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And, you know, the fun stuff, things where people were telling me I was good at it.
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People were excited for me because I could do these things.
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I could do these things that people couldn't do.
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I'll never forget my wife's like, you got to try a double under.
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I'm like, double under.
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She goes, yeah, you got to pass the rope under your feet twice.
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I'm like, that's not hard.
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So she took me outside and I did it.
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And she, she was mad at me because I could do it without even practicing.
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So, so you go from athlete to coach.
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What made you want to own a gym?
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I didn't.
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I didn't.
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I just wanted to coach people.
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And then Scott, I'm telling you, the very first person that I coached, Mike Wooten, he is still with me today at this gym 11 years later.
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And it just, I had this little small space upstairs on a second story.
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And I had like eight to 10 to 12 people.
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And then it just started getting bigger.
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I had 30 to 35 people and then like, all right, we got to get out of here because they kicked us out.
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They gave us, so I rented a space here in Murrieta, 3,600 square foot space.
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I think I had 35 or 40 people at the time.
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And it just kind of turned into a hobby.
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But I didn't have a lot of people in here.
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So it was kind of scary.
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I actually was thinking about having to close up.
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And then we've taken on three gyms in the last six years.
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And so once we took on the first one, I'm like, all right.
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I can break even now.
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And then we took up another one and like, all right, I can finally start maybe making this so I can bring a little residual income in.
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And then once we took on the third one, it's just a full blown business.
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So I just, I just built it up and it was nothing I wanted to walk away from, man.
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Nothing.
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I don't, I don't, I'll never, I'll never leave this until they kick me out of here.
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So the old field of dreams, if you build it, they will come.
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Bro, I'm not kidding you.
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I never in a million years imagined I would have 215 members and know and love every one of them.
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I know it sounds like a cliché type of story, but stop by my gym.
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You'll see.
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So you not only own the gym, but you also own Everwell Studio, which I think you referenced your wife is in right now.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And that is, it has an infrared sauna, cold plunge, contrast therapy, compression therapy, chiropractic, lash art.
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Like, I can just picture you doing some lash art.
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That's my daughter.
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That's my daughter.
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I had to give my daughter a room.
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My wife made me give my daughter a room.
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So...
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If you've been around the CrossFit space for a while, most of this makes sense.
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It's a perfect pairing to be right beside a CrossFit gym.
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Oh, it's amazing.
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We have probably 70 to 80 members in our Everwell studio.
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It's separate.
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It's a separate business from turn to CrossFit.
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You have to walk out the door walk around about 2530 feet and you can walk right into Everwell studio.
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And we have like you say we have a full time chiropractor in there.
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We have a full time massage therapist.
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We have two contrast rooms where it has infrared sauna.
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and the cold plunge we have two private rooms for that and then we have two separate tubs out front for cold plunge and we have a separate infrared sauna if you just want to do infrared sauna and we have compression therapy two chairs with a norma tech compression therapy and that thing that place is open from five o'clock in the morning till 6 30 at night our members some of our members can just come in there do it on their own they know how to turn it on they know how to cold plunge they know how to replace their towels
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Yeah, it's something that we've had.
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We're just inside of a year on that.
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But it's been a dream of ours for quite some time.
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Our chiropractor, Ashley Fiala, Dr. Ashley, she does all the competitions with me.
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We travel all over the United States together, her and her daughter and her husband and my wife.
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She's our chiropractor.
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She was the one that had this dream and vision when she went to school about three years ago, and we made it happen.
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Yeah, it's unreal.
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Yeah, it makes perfect sense.
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But with seeing you, you're kind of, you're that rough and gruff kind of athletic guy.
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And then you see like the pictures of the studio and it's very not Tony-ish.
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That's my wife.
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Right.
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It doesn't need to be me.
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I don't decorate anything.
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Yeah.
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But great, great stuff there.
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Thanks, man.
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So you, you're doing this CrossFit thing.
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At what point did you say to yourself, man, I could, I could compete at some of the higher levels?
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Well, I think my first one I did was in 2011.
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And then, um,
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I noticed that – I don't know if they had a Masters.
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I can't remember what the Masters – I think it was in 2011 I might have been my first one I competed in.
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But I think I got hurt, so I couldn't post all my scores.
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And then 2012 or 13, I think I just kind of played around with it.
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I can't really recall because I made the games in 2014 was my first year.
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But I started to – I think that's when they kind of started getting like 50 to 54 instead of like –
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I can't remember what they had because I was in the 50 to 54s when I made it my first year.
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Um, but I could do all that.
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Like I said, I could do all that, the things that they were doing and I was pretty good at them.
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And so I kind of put my hat in the ring and on 2014, I thought there was no chance I would make the games and I competed at that level.
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And, um,
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Lo and behold, I qualified 11th that year.
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And man, let me tell you, when I found out I qualified, holy cow, I cried like a baby.
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I could not believe I made it because I knew it was a big deal.
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So then you go back in 2016.
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Yeah, 2015, I missed it because I couldn't snatch.
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And if you look up any of my stats, you're going to see that this guy can walk on his hands and do double unders, but I'm not a very strong overhead guy.
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Just not.
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I just don't lift a lot of weights.
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I don't push a lot of shit over my head, but I can stay...
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with it a little bit.
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So 2015, I realized I'm like, if I could have snatched 175, I would have been in the top four that year, but I couldn't.
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And so then 2016, I went and got stronger and tried to develop a little bit of strength.
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And then I made it back in 2016, but I tore my bicep tendon a week before the games
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On the rings and still went to the games, but I finished like 14th or 16th, I think.
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16th on that year.
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Yeah.
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So that brings us to the big injury.
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And that becomes a very pivotal moment in your career.
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It does.
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And you made a decision that year between 16 and 17 after that injury.
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Can you briefly tell us what that decision was?
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Yeah, that decision was, I went ahead and I used the old adage, everybody else is doing it, why can't I?
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And I started doing testosterone replacement therapy through a doctor here in Temecula Murrieta.
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And I, like I say, I knew I wasn't supposed to be doing it.
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I knew I wasn't supposed to be, I knew it was illegal.
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I knew it was something I shouldn't have been doing and competing.
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But I did it.
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And in 2017, I made it back to the games.
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And I was also prescribed what's called an estrogen blocker, an estrozole.
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And when I went to the games in 2017, I took second place that year and we got pit tested and I failed.
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the test and was banned for four years after the 2017 games.
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Never hid behind it.
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Never tried to tell anybody I didn't do it.
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Never blamed it on anybody.
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No tainted substances.
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I was told by some real close members here that get out in front of this thing, man.
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And that's what I did right away.
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So I listened to a podcast, um, with the Taylor Hooten foundation and you go into detail.
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And if anybody wants to hear the full story, please go there and listen to it.
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Uh, it's a really good podcast.
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Uh, and you go into detail about everything, but there's a couple of things I wanted to ask you about.
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And one, you, you immediately, when you tested positive, you'd sent a letter to every, all 19 of your competitors.
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Yes.
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Apologizing for what you did.
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Yep.
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What was the feedback from the competitors when they received those letters?
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From what I remember, it was a little foggy back then because it was so, my gosh, you want to talk about standing on the edge of a cliff, Scotty.
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I received probably 14 or 15 responses from them, and they were all within...
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There were kind responses.
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I didn't receive any that were of ill sayings or words.
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Everybody said that, you know, they apologized.
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They were sorry for me.
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And hopefully that I come back, you know, in a few more years when my ban is up.
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But it was what I needed to do for my therapy, if you will, is to send that out right away.
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I mean, I sent my medal.
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I sent my second place shirt to Boschhoven.
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And you sent that to him directly.
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You didn't go through CrossFit.
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No.
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You sent it to him directly so he would get it as quickly as possible.
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I actually had his phone number or his e-mail.
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And I said, hey, man, give me your address.
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I sent it out the next day.
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And it was kind of funny because CrossFit sent me an apology kind of email saying, hey, sorry to have to do this with your situation.
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I received a lot of very good support from CrossFit also.
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They were great.
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They felt terrible for me and they were very sympathetic, but
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A rule's a rule.
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But I sent that out to Boshoven and CrossFit about a week later asked for me to send the medal back to them.
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And I told him I already sent it to Boshoven.
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He already has it.
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So, yeah, Robert got it within two or three days, the medal and the shirt that I never wore.
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So –
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The one thing I do want to point out, you did TRT, and it is completely legal other than that you were a competitor.
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Yes, sir.
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And it is something that is very typical in older men.
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And you were actually suffering symptoms that are typical of low T around all this at the same time.
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Yes, all of it.
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Still, yeah, well...
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I almost said what I didn't want to say, but I still am.
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Um, yeah, cause I don't, I don't do, you can test me anytime you want.
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I'm never going to, I'm 62 going on 63 in July or next summer.
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And there are still things that, uh, that are affected, um, by that.
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Um, so, um,
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I'm okay.
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I'm doing what I can do to try to live this CrossFit life because I'm not going to do anything that put myself in jeopardy again.
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And I won't.
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So, yes, but it is legal, and I do have members that do it that don't compete because it's out there, Scott.
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I mean, I have people ask me about it a lot, and if that's for them, I recommend that they go do it because there's nothing wrong with it other than if you're going to compete at the level that I've been fortunate enough to compete at.
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Do you think there's ever a day, especially in a sport that has masters that goes all the way to 65 plus, that there can be some kind of oversight on some therapy so men can live a normal life and still compete?
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Or do you think that the opening up that gate is just opening up that gate too big?
27:35
That's what I think.
27:36
I think it is.
27:37
I've kind of thought to myself, because I've had this discussion a million times with people about, Tony, you didn't do anything wrong.
27:44
Yeah, I did.
27:45
I competed against people that weren't doing it.
27:48
So I did do something wrong.
27:50
I thought about it.
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If CrossFit were to say, yeah, you know, you can go ahead and do it.
27:56
I think it's opening up Pandora's box, if you will.
27:59
I just don't think that they can let that go and let that happen without having so many problems.
28:07
In the CrossFit world, I think it would be more trouble for them than it's worth, even at 60 to 65.
28:14
I mean, where does this stop?
28:17
If you're going to let people do it in the games and the competitions, where does it stop?
28:25
And now everybody's, you know, I don't want to do it because I don't have to.
28:28
Well, I know he's doing it, but he's telling me he's not.
28:31
I just think it's going to be too tough for CrossFit to do that.
28:35
And I support the fact that they don't.
28:38
So your band was up in 2021.
28:41
Yeah.
28:41
So you served your band from 18, 19, 20, and 21.
28:46
Right.
28:50
Four years.
28:51
You come back in 22 as a clean athlete.
28:55
Yes, sir.
28:59
What response did you get at your first competition back from the community, your competitors?
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When I went to the games back in 22 in Madison, I was so scared that everybody was going to know who I was.
29:18
In my age group, every single guy in my age group knew who I was and knew my past.
29:23
Nobody else did.
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And if they did, nobody said anything to me.
29:28
I did my four years.
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I never stood behind anything and tried to say I didn't do anything.
29:33
My competitors, because this was the year that there were only 10 of us, and so just about every one of my competitors, I knew them all through name, through competing against them.
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I had no problems whatsoever.
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Everybody was very supportive of me being there, and those guys are the shit, man.
29:58
Those guys are...
30:00
I love them.
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And I compete against, like, the Wilsons and the Fameries and the Akins, Shannon Akin.
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Those guys all stood right by my side and accepted me back.
30:16
It was amazing.
30:17
McCarty's, I mean, there were some guys that I knew.
30:20
Like, I'll give you an example.
30:21
You probably know the name Will Powell, right?
30:24
Yep.
30:25
Man, everybody knows Will Powell.
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One of the, I mean, the Hall of Fame of the 60 or 50 plus guys.
30:33
Been in the games.
30:34
I think he made it nine years in a row.
30:37
He was one of the guys that I remember that never responded to my email.
30:42
And so he was one of the very first guys that I walked up to and told him I was sorry.
30:48
Gave me a hug.
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And you just move on.
30:53
Yeah.
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He is a, excuse me, Will's a super religious guy.
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So it was good.
31:06
We were good.
31:08
That had, like getting those first couple hours just out of the way when you were through the games in 22 had to be such a load off.
31:20
It was, you can't even imagine.
31:23
I was so, I told my wife, I was so scared to go because it's okay if you still believe what you believe.
31:30
It's okay to believe if you think I'm still doing something, I'm okay with that.
31:34
But just, you know, be able to talk to me, be able to tell me, and I'll give you my story.
31:38
If you don't, you know, if you don't believe me and if you don't trust me, then you don't know me.
31:43
I just want to talk to you.
31:45
And just, and if you have something, I told all these people, these guys, if you have something to say,
31:50
I'm right here.
31:51
Say it to me, please, because I want you to get it off your chest.
31:54
I don't want you to think I'm a bad guy.
31:57
I don't.
31:57
And, man, I had nothing but support.
32:00
Nothing but support.
32:02
I did another podcast that's called The Master's Chatter.
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You ever heard of that, Scott?
32:09
Sure have.
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with Jen and those guys.
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And they interviewed me last year after the Masters Fitness Collective I won.
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And I had the same type of interview with them and told them the story also.
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And I know them to this day.
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Actually, I'm gonna do a podcast with them on the Masters Chatter here on their next one.
32:31
I'm super excited too.
32:33
Yeah.
32:34
So Jamie's actually asking a question and I think we left this part out.
32:39
I guess Hiller has made statements that you can do TRT and still not get flagged as long as you're not blasting it, right?
32:49
But when you tested positive, it wasn't for the testosterone.
32:52
No.
32:53
It was for the estrogen blocker.
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And estrozole, yes.
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And Jamie's so right.
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And, and you can literally do TRT because what it is, people don't know we're given a range.
33:07
All of us have a testosterone range as we get older.
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And let's say 60 to 60 or the 60 year olds have a range.
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I think it's somewhere like 225 to like 900.
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And so if you fall inside that 220 to 900 range,
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To my knowledge, CrossFit, there's nothing that really they're going to be able to do because you're not going to get flagged for anything.
33:30
The estrogen blockers are.
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Now, if you go over 900, then I believe, again, I don't want to speak out of turn.
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I've watched Hiller all the time.
33:39
If you go over 900, then they test your B sample.
33:42
And if that is also over, then you can get a pop for, what's it called?
33:51
I just had it.
33:55
Outside, sorry, I can't remember the term.
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Oh, androgynous.
34:04
Dang it, I can't remember the word.
34:06
But an outside source of testosterone.
34:10
Androgynous, that's what it is.
34:13
Yeah, I'm no good at all of that stuff.
34:15
I leave that up to Hiller and people who do all that research.
34:20
I've talked to Hiller myself about it.
34:24
But I did leave out earlier that the estrogen blocker was called what?
34:32
Anestrozole.
34:34
Anestrozole.
34:35
And that's what you tested positive for?
34:37
Yes.
34:38
Anestrozole is a hormone for women and breast cancer.
34:48
Yeah, and you fully admitted, and I wasn't leaving out like a secret for the people in the chat.
34:54
Tony has admitted this on every podcast, everything that's been put out since 2017.
35:00
So I'm not like exposing a secret here or anything.
35:05
Nope, not at all.
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And I told you when we talked earlier, you can ask me anything, my brother.
35:13
Yeah.
35:14
So I want to move on to this year's legends.
35:20
You, and I think one of the persons, Kenneth in the chat said the testosterone thing is androgynous.
35:27
Yeah.
35:28
Thank you.
35:28
That's it.
35:29
I couldn't think of it.
35:30
Androgynous.
35:32
Yeah.
35:34
You, you come to the games in 23.
35:38
You don't do as well as you did in 22, right?
35:42
Yeah, 22 actually took second.
35:45
And 23 took fourth.
35:46
Still a great performance.
35:48
Yeah, I was literally one and a half seconds from being on the podium.
35:56
Wow.
35:57
Yeah, it was close.
35:59
And then you come to Legends, which is...
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one of the premier masters competitions there are in the country.
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I mean, they had over 500 athletes there this year.
36:10
Um, beautiful facility.
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Um, a lot of competition.
36:16
You start off the week with a bang and then a little bit of a flutter, but then you end like a house on fire.
36:29
So go ahead.
36:30
You start with swim.
36:33
Apparently you're good at that.
36:35
I don't know why.
36:36
I mean, I'm from South Tahoe High School.
36:40
We never had a pool.
36:43
My mom would send me in summer times to my dad's in Las Vegas, and we had an apartment there, and all we did was swim.
36:49
So evidently I can swim, Scott.
36:52
In the 2022 games, they had a swim event.
36:57
Do you remember that?
36:58
The swim and ski erg?
37:00
Yep.
37:01
I took first in that.
37:03
And for some reason I can swim.
37:05
So the swimming events, I love them, but put me out on a run and I am no good.
37:11
Hence the 2023 5k.
37:15
Yeah, there you go.
37:19
So then you go to under pressure, which is a lifting event that you've admitted earlier in this podcast.
37:24
That is not your thing.
37:25
There's a clean and jerk and a snatch both overhead, not your strong suit.
37:30
no no and and and no i was and when i went to legends i was hurt i have um a torn calf torn right calf and some and shin splints to my left so i wasn't jumping i wasn't able to run and i wasn't able to lift anything hardly over my head going into that event i didn't think i would even finish the the the competition at all because how bad my calf was wow yeah
37:59
Then you go to Hell's Bells, which is the grip event where if you let go, you had to do devil's press.
38:08
Were you able to go unbroken?
38:09
I was.
38:11
And you should have seen all 20 of us were like asking these.
38:14
Because when you're 60 years old, we all talk to each other.
38:18
We don't hold secrets.
38:19
Like, hey, do you think you're going to hold on to this dumbbell, these dumbbells for the entire 240 feet?
38:24
And everybody's like, hell no, I'm not going to be able to hold on to those things.
38:28
No way.
38:30
Every single one of us held on to them.
38:33
Yeah.
38:33
Nobody wants to do that.
38:34
I went unbroken, yeah, on the whole thing.
38:37
Yep.
38:39
And you ended up taking third in that event.
38:42
Yeah, which was way better than I thought.
38:45
Way better.
38:48
So there's a little bit of your comeback.
38:50
Then the jump, which you just admitted you had a torn calf.
38:54
Yeah.
38:55
Typically healthy, would that event have gone better for you?
38:58
I would have chased down Wilson, and he knows it if he's watching this.
39:05
That right there was like my jam.
39:08
I'm not the greatest rope climber because I'm not a very tall guy.
39:13
I'm a big guy.
39:14
But that was my jam.
39:16
I mean, that double under crossover thing.
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That's everything that I love doing.
39:21
I had 60 double unders, not a problem, but I, I kept breaking up the double unders.
39:26
I had to literally do the crossovers one legged with my left leg only.
39:31
And then I like the second half, I was able to put both feet down, but yeah, I think I took ninth in that one.
39:37
So it was just a little bit of a damage control.
39:40
I think I took ninth in that one.
39:42
Right.
39:42
Do you have that?
39:44
Yeah, it was ninth.
39:45
Yeah.
39:45
And you said you did one-legged crossovers.
39:48
Shouldn't you win Spirit of the Games for that?
39:51
What's that?
39:52
Shouldn't you win Spirit of the Games for that?
39:54
Yeah, right?
39:58
Me and Roman.
39:59
Sorry.
40:01
I'm still bitter about that.
40:02
Yeah, I know.
40:03
I hear you.
40:04
I feel bad for him.
40:06
Well...
40:07
And this is way off topic, but I was there for all the Masters events.
40:12
There were Masters athletes at the end of that, on the last event.
40:16
It was jump rope, correct?
40:17
The last event of which one?
40:20
Of the games.
40:22
The last event of the games?
40:24
Or next.
40:25
One of the events, anyway.
40:26
There was jump rope.
40:28
I saw no less than five athletes going one-legged because they hurt one leg or another.
40:34
Yeah.
40:34
Oh, yeah.
40:36
And for someone to be elevated to Spirit of the Games when the Masters athletes and, hell, the Adaptive athletes, some of them only had one leg.
40:45
Right.
40:46
Just seemed a bit much.
40:49
But that's my little riff again.
40:51
Gotcha.
40:52
Gotcha.
40:55
Jamie says, I love the older groups.
40:57
They do so much.
40:58
They do share so much.
41:00
Jim, who Jim Pieper, she coaches, is always chatting.
41:05
Absolutely.
41:06
Hi, Jamie.
41:06
Man, now I know exactly who Jamie is.
41:08
Yes.
41:10
Jim Pieper is amazing.
41:12
And again, we all share everything.
41:15
Are you going to do this?
41:15
How much are you going to lift?
41:17
Like we tell each other everything.
41:21
I can't even tell you.
41:22
I'm like every time, every single one, there's Pulse Mail, all those guys out there, Wilson.
41:29
brandy lane we all just like hey what are you going to do in this one do you able to how much you're going to be able to lift can you walk on your hands can you they're all very honest so i lost you for just a brief second uh you were you mentioned some names and then that they share and then you kind of blurped out a little bit
41:53
No, I was just saying that, you know, we all ask, can you walk on your hands?
41:56
Can you swim?
41:57
And then we're all pretty honest about like what we can do.
42:01
Like, nah, I can't swim.
42:02
I'm a terrible swimmer.
42:03
Or I can only snatch like 115 or 135 or I'm hurt.
42:09
Or yeah, we all just kind of share.
42:10
Jamie's right.
42:11
We share everything.
42:14
Yeah.
42:15
And just, you know, Jamie was a champion as well.
42:17
She was 40 to 44 year old champion at legends herself.
42:21
So coaching Jim.
42:23
Yes.
42:24
Yeah.
42:25
Yeah.
42:25
Congratulations, Jamie.
42:29
And then once you finish jump, you come back Saturday morning and then you finish no lower than second on any event on the last four.
42:40
Right.
42:40
Yeah.
42:41
So Enter Sandman, that's the bar muscle-up, clean and jerk, clean and snatch.
42:48
So, yeah, interesting story on that one.
42:52
Because, you know, we're 60.
42:55
And Bob and Joe are really, I would consider them good friends of mine.
43:02
And I can speak with them because I've been doing Legends for five years.
43:07
I've won legends three times and took second one time and didn't do anything another time.
43:13
So I've been with those guys for years.
43:16
But when that workout came out, I pulled Bob aside.
43:19
And I'm like, dude, you need to let us do muscle-ups.
43:23
And I don't know.
43:24
He didn't say he was going to change it because of me.
43:27
But I go, we need to... The sport is evolving so fast.
43:33
And us 60-year-olds need to go out there and be able to show off our skills.
43:39
We can do muscle-ups, not just chest-to-bar.
43:42
Plus, I told him...
43:44
There's such a disparity with four chest bars and then we're lifting weights that there needs to be a separator.
43:50
And this is what I talked to Bob.
43:52
Bob was like an open book.
43:54
He's like, Tony, we messed up.
43:56
No big deal.
43:58
We'll try to fix this.
43:59
Or maybe next time, he kind of said in his words,
44:04
We shit the bed.
44:05
We'll do, you know, I don't know what I can do.
44:07
Nothing I can do.
44:08
But I said, I told him, I appreciate him talking to me, but these people need to see that a 60 year old.
44:14
Can do muscle ups.
44:16
And so, yeah, as you know, if you remember the format, it was all 60 year olds were just chest to bars.
44:24
Right.
44:26
Later on that day, he did change it to the last round of bar muscle-ups.
44:30
I hope I'm not getting anybody in trouble.
44:32
I'm just being honest.
44:34
But Bob changed that.
44:35
And I don't know if it's because I talked to him or somebody else did, but we got to do bar muscle-ups.
44:43
So Jamie said, yeah, I loved how it ended with it.
44:45
Show it off if you've got it.
44:47
That's what I told Bob.
44:49
I said, Bob, we can do this.
44:51
And if I'm not mistaken, Scott, and Jamie, I'm not quite sure if you saw a 60-year-old's
44:57
I believe there were, out of the 19 guys, because one guy had to drop out, out of the 19 guys, if I'm not mistaken, Scott, there were 13 to 16 of us that could do bar muscle-ups, and I think there were more.
45:10
I think about every single guy could do a bar muscle-up.
45:15
I'll give you an example.
45:16
The guy I think that won that, because I took second in that one, Scott?
45:21
Second, yep.
45:22
Yeah, the guy that won that, if you look,
45:26
He was 64, and his name is... If you have it there, help me out.
45:34
I don't.
45:35
I wish I did.
45:36
He's 64, and he won that.
45:41
And he literally, I think he took like...
45:46
second to last in the entire competition but that was his time to shine you know he he took literally 19th place in that competition i think and yet he took a first place in that and he was so proud of that that he got to do that and take a first place and so that was kind of my example indirectly to bob was like we gotta we gotta get to show off man we can do this stuff
46:12
So a couple of things, Jamie says, I think he realized a few things that weekend and was quite open about it.
46:19
He was.
46:20
Bob and Joe are awesome, man.
46:22
They're open to hearing what we have to say.
46:25
And I was kind of speaking for all the guys.
46:29
I'm kind of a, you know, one of the veterans out there.
46:31
I've been around Legends for a long time, been around the games.
46:34
And so I took the opportunity to talk to Bob and
46:38
Yeah, Jamie's right.
46:40
It was good for us to show off.
46:42
It was fun.
46:45
Just from a personal experience, so I have a girl in Nebraska who makes the leaderboard posts on Instagram for us whenever we're at an event.
46:54
So for Legends, every event she put out, top fives for every division, even scaled, even team, like everybody got a leaderboard.
47:05
I saw it.
47:05
So many people shared that.
47:08
That had that exact case where they finished 20th for the weekend, but they won an event.
47:16
And they wanted all their friends and family to know that they had a highlight that weekend.
47:21
I'm telling you, it's a big deal.
47:24
It is.
47:25
It's a big deal.
47:26
If you take a top three in one of those events...
47:28
it's a big deal.
47:30
We're all proud of what we do and what we can do out there.
47:34
I wish I could remember this guy's name, Scott, because I know who it is.
47:36
I just can't think of his name because I want to give him a shout out.
47:39
He was a, he was a super cool guy too.
47:43
Super good guy.
47:45
So I will look it up.
47:48
Once I ask you about the next cup.
47:49
So you have another one bites the dust.
47:51
Yeah.
47:52
This is where things get a real confused in my head as to what the events were.
47:57
Okay, so another one bites the dust was I can I can help you out with it.
48:05
I remember it.
48:06
Okay, go ahead.
48:07
I'm pretty because I remember right where I was in the staging area when it happened.
48:10
I'm pretty sure that another one bites the dust was the squat cleans and handstand walks.
48:19
Yep.
48:20
Okay.
48:20
Squat cleans and handstand walks.
48:22
And, you know, there they give us some handstand walks.
48:25
I thought we should have got to walk a little further.
48:28
However, the fourth and the fifth round, they let us walk 20 feet.
48:33
And so, again, of course, I'm biased, but we're going to lift, you know, we're squat cleaning 135.
48:40
Not a heavy weight for a lot of, you know, lifters.
48:43
But for me, it's right there.
48:45
You know, it's – I think we did –
48:49
Five feet handstand walk, two squat cleans at 135, 10 foot four, 15 foot six, 20 feet eight, 20 feet 10.
49:01
That was the workout.
49:02
And so, yeah.
49:03
So, and I think that was the only one that I might've been one of the only ones that finished that.
49:09
Was I first in that one?
49:10
You were definitely first.
49:11
Yeah.
49:12
Well, it's walking on your hands.
49:13
It's what you do.
49:14
Oh, I've been doing it for 50 years.
49:19
So the name you were looking for was Brett Karihara.
49:24
He took, he, he was, he took first in that one.
49:28
Yep.
49:28
Okay.
49:29
So he wasn't in 19th place.
49:31
He wasn't in 19th place.
49:33
19th place took third.
49:35
Okay.
49:35
That was his name.
49:36
Bruce Marko.
49:38
bruce marco you guys remember that name bruce marco because he's going to be around and he is super excited about being 65 just because he gets to compete against it at 65 he told me that he goes you wait next year i'm going to be 65 i knew that i knew he had a good event that one yeah yeah he thanks he took third right behind you yep
50:01
Then you go into the last day and it's the back to back.
50:04
And everybody I've talked to said, you kind of look at it and you're like, which one do I want to go all in for?
50:10
And which one do I want to like do it either tired or paced?
50:15
Did you have that same attitude or did, cause you took a first and a second.
50:20
That workout was so hard.
50:25
So if you look back on this workout, and I'm sure Bob and Joe have heard it, we squatted a lot.
50:32
We dumbbell squat cleaned, we squat cleaned, and then all of a sudden we turn around, now we've got to- Thruster.
50:41
Goblet, or goblet squat.
50:43
Oh, that too, yeah.
50:44
Right, now we have to goblet squat, and then some more squatting with thrusters.
50:50
So when they put us out on the floor,
50:54
I was in lane number 10.
50:56
Now, if you put 20 of us out there, I would be in the middle, right?
51:01
But they had one through 10 and then they started at 11 at the other end.
51:05
through 20, so nobody knew who was in first place unless the announcer said something.
51:12
Second place was clear across the floor, so I couldn't keep track of him, and he couldn't keep track of me.
51:19
It was Wilson.
51:21
However, third place was right in front of me.
51:28
I can't remember his name.
51:30
Third place was right in front of me.
51:32
Tim Haynes.
51:33
Tim Haynes.
51:34
Nobody knew who Tim Haynes was, by the way.
51:36
This guy was an amazing athlete, and nobody knew who he was.
51:41
The third day, he was in second place, Scott, and I was like, hey, you guys, who's Tim Haynes?
51:45
I asked four people, and none of them knew who Tim Haynes was.
51:48
I'm like, you guys, he's in second place, and none of us know who he is.
51:53
And he finished one point out of second for the weekend.
51:55
Yeah.
51:56
Yes.
51:56
So he was in front of me at the last workout, but he had his back to me.
52:02
So he couldn't see me, but I could see him.
52:04
So all I did the entire time was stayed with him.
52:08
That's all I did.
52:10
It was almost...
52:12
It was a fair advantage because I was in first place.
52:15
So I was, you know, I should have been able to.
52:18
But it was almost an unfair advantage to him and Wilson not to be able to see where I was.
52:23
Because all I did the whole time was watch Haynes.
52:26
And I just stayed with him.
52:27
And then in the last 30 seconds on the goblet squats, he kind of slowed down.
52:31
And I just busted out seven as fast as I could.
52:34
And he only got five.
52:35
So I beat him by two.
52:37
And right then I'm like...
52:38
I'm in pretty good shape now because I don't know what Wilson did, but Wilson was a little bit behind me.
52:44
And I thought maybe, I thought maybe I could beat Brian in that first one.
52:48
He's a little bit tall.
52:49
He's a lot taller athlete than I am.
52:51
So those, uh, those goblet squats, he had a long, long ways to go on those goblet squats.
52:59
Only go as fast as you need to.
53:01
yeah and then on the last part um again i just i went out as fast as i could i tried to again i got to watch haines in front of me i just stayed with him and it was the most awful three minutes you could even imagine and i think i got like eight burpees and he got like seven or something like that and yeah and oh here's another example of a guy look up mark anderson who won that event scott
53:32
He was literally one of two people, I think, in the entire competition that finished that workout.
53:43
Yeah, I know not many people did.
53:45
Actually, it says on the leaderboard he got capped.
53:50
Mark Anderson did?
53:50
Yeah.
53:55
Somebody finished that in our group.
54:01
He is listed as the winner with a score of 10.
54:05
Oh, okay.
54:06
Shoot.
54:07
Speaking out of turn.
54:10
But it looks like he came really close.
54:13
Oh, okay.
54:14
Dang it.
54:14
I thought he finished that thing.
54:16
Okay.
54:17
I stand corrected.
54:18
Yeah, because it was 50 thrusters, right?
54:23
Yep.
54:24
And how many – you had to finish up with burpees?
54:28
Yes.
54:30
Yeah.
54:32
20 burpees or something like that.
54:36
Yeah.
54:36
Sunday, Sunday.
54:38
Oh yeah.
54:40
I thought somebody, I thought he finished it.
54:42
Mark Anderson finished, but he finished first 67.
54:45
I can't remember.
54:46
So we got 17 burpees.
54:49
Yeah.
54:49
So it got to 17.
54:52
Yeah.
54:54
So, uh, someone in grubs group did finish, but maybe one or two all day.
55:01
All day.
55:04
I told everybody that is the darkest place I had gone to and I don't know how long.
55:11
I have not gone there.
55:14
I can't even remember the last time I went to that level where I laid on the ground and was hurting.
55:23
So you end the weekend as a champ?
55:27
Yes, sir.
55:29
What does that mean to you to win a major competition in a career where you had to sit out for a while?
55:40
And so you can only appreciate it more, right, now that you get the opportunity and you win?
55:52
It was amazing.
55:55
Last year when I competed at Legends in Tennessee, Brian Wilson took first and I took second.
56:02
He crushed it.
56:04
And then this year I got to stand up there and Wilson took second.
56:08
And it was totally cool to stand up there with this guy.
56:11
I mean, if you know Brian Wilson, this guy is a amazing athlete and just a crazy great human being.
56:19
So to know that I got him,
56:25
I was proud, but to be able to represent the 60 year olds at Legends and stand on that podium, my friend, it was an honor.
56:36
And Joe and Bob, they do a great job.
56:41
And I was very proud to represent the 60 year olds as a champion.
56:45
I'll tell you, it was a big deal for me, big deal.
56:49
So I'm going to finish up with this one big question.
56:52
And that is next year, the games are being taken over by legends.
56:58
Yeah.
57:00
Right.
57:00
You've spoken, you spoke about Bob and Joe throughout this podcast.
57:06
Are the masters in the right hands?
57:09
Oh, without a doubt.
57:12
I called this last year.
57:14
I told one of my athletes here, I said, you mark my words.
57:18
you mark my word this year that I'm making the games will be the last year of the game.
57:22
The CrossFit will have the games.
57:24
She didn't believe me and I didn't know anything.
57:27
It just seems like it was going that way.
57:30
You know, every year after the games, Scott, you could just hear us all complaining.
57:36
I mean, the CrossFit knows it.
57:38
I'm not, there's no secrets.
57:39
We all just complained about no, the coverage.
57:43
And, and I'm, I was there.
57:45
It's not that they were doing anything wrong, but,
57:49
You know, we weren't the show, that's for sure.
57:52
So I think this year with Bob and Joe, you know, this is going to, we're going to be the show.
57:57
We're going to be, you know, we're going to be the ones that people are there to see.
58:00
I think they have their hands full.
58:03
Oh boy.
58:04
And I know CrossFit's going to help them in some way as I've been, what I've been told.
58:10
But I like the field.
58:12
I wasn't a big proponent of the, of the, of the larger fields that,
58:18
but I'm kind of coming around on it.
58:22
I think 20 guys in our category, I think that's high, but I think you're still going to get 20 good guys out there.
58:33
It's not going to be like 10.
58:35
It's really hard to make 10, and it's not going to be obviously as hard, if you will, to make 20, but...
58:41
I like the format.
58:43
I think Joe and Bob, I don't know where it's going to be.
58:45
I wish we would know.
58:47
I mean, so we can set up some facilities and find out what we need to do, right?
58:56
And that's the only part right now that I'm a little bit cloudy about and would tell Bob and Joe, we need an announcement.
59:04
We need to know where we're going.
59:05
We need a date so we can start taking care of our...
59:11
some of our things that we need to do in case we make it.
59:16
Speaking to both of them, I think they want to make an announcement more than anything, but they just can't.
59:24
Oh, I got you.
59:26
See, and that makes sense.
59:27
That totally makes sense.
59:28
I'm sure there's something going on that I don't know.
59:31
Yeah.
59:32
I honestly believe at this point, they don't, they don't have a signed contract with a location.
59:38
Oh, I got you.
59:39
I've not been told that.
59:41
That's just the feeling I get.
59:45
There's just little I's and T's that need finished up before it's finalized.
59:51
So you can't make the announcement until there's a signed deal.
59:54
Yeah, well, that makes sense, Scott.
59:56
I mean, you're way more privy to this information or any information than I am.
1:00:02
That's just my guess.
1:00:04
I really liked...
1:00:07
the venue we were just at, I really did.
1:00:10
I enjoyed that venue at ASU a ton.
1:00:14
And I'd love to go back there.
1:00:17
And I don't know where it's going to be, though, or dates.
1:00:21
I don't think it's going to be there.
1:00:23
I know Legends, December Legends is going back there again.
1:00:29
So you'll get to go back there then.
1:00:33
But I think my only advice about ASU was make sure the finish line is away from the chaos.
1:00:43
as a spectator and someone covering the sport, there were too many times where like you were on that upper, upper playing field and it ended like at the windows and that's where everybody was.
1:00:57
And you couldn't tell who finished first, second or third.
1:01:00
Yeah.
1:01:02
If you finish coming out of the chaos, then the spectator sees who's first, who's second, who's third.
1:01:09
And it makes, it makes it more compelling watching.
1:01:12
Yeah, totally.
1:01:14
Well, in the same event, the last event, Sunday, Bloody Sunday, nobody knew anything.
1:01:22
Nobody knew anything, and that's where it was kind of tough because that floor layout, and I would tell Bob and Joe if they were standing here, that floor layout, nobody knew who was what.
1:01:34
And that's the one thing that the games does better than anybody.
1:01:39
You always see a finish line.
1:01:42
Yeah.
1:01:43
Oh, I got you.
1:01:43
Yeah.
1:01:44
You know what I mean?
1:01:44
You always in there, someone that you have to run through it.
1:01:48
Yeah.
1:01:48
To get to it.
1:01:49
Right.
1:01:49
Cause you're running away from wherever the chaos is on the field.
1:01:53
Yeah.
1:01:53
I got you.
1:01:54
Yeah.
1:01:54
I know exactly what you're talking about.
1:01:57
Yeah.
1:01:57
I mean, there were a few things there.
1:01:58
They were really space orientation.
1:02:01
There was a little bit tough for them with, with this biggest field as they had.
1:02:06
You put 20 people on that top section up there doing squat cleans and handstand walks.
1:02:14
That was tight.
1:02:17
It was.
1:02:19
There were moments I'm sitting there with my camera going, we're going to have a traffic accident on the 95 here.
1:02:24
Yeah, those squat cleans for some of those, I mean, some of those ladies, those squat cleans in the 45 to 49 age group,
1:02:32
um that was 155 they had because that's where my athlete Ashley Fiala she took sixth um she um she said that I think there were like nine or six to nine women that couldn't even do 155 and so but they were trying right and that's pretty tough if you fail and and yeah and fall back and fall backwards right
1:02:58
Yeah, that 155 was heavy for some athletes.
1:03:04
You know, I'm close with Jamie.
1:03:05
I was watching her compete.
1:03:07
That's heavy for her.
1:03:08
She can do it, but that's going to be where she slows down.
1:03:14
Yep.
1:03:16
Same thing with my athlete.
1:03:17
She did well on it because she can walk on her hands.
1:03:19
She's a total gymnast.
1:03:21
She went unbroken the whole way on her hands.
1:03:24
But that 155, that was heavy.
1:03:25
Yeah.
1:03:29
Tony, it has been more than a pleasure today.
1:03:33
You are one of my favorite guests of all time.
1:03:36
I just love like chatting with you and we're going to have to have you back on again and again.
1:03:41
I appreciate it, man.
1:03:44
I, I love the CrossFit community.
1:03:47
I, I,
1:03:49
I love what I do.
1:03:51
And when I, I mean, I brag to everybody.
1:03:55
I'm like, I'm going to do a podcast with Clydesdale media.
1:03:59
And I am so excited to be on this show.
1:04:02
I, you know, I went and did my homework and looked at what you did.
1:04:05
And thank you for letting me share my story again.
1:04:09
It's a big deal to me, man.
1:04:12
I just, this is what I love to do.
1:04:15
Yeah.
1:04:16
Well, good luck on next season.
1:04:18
We'll be in touch.
1:04:19
I have your contact information now.
1:04:21
And we'll make sure to get you back on here in the coming months as we get into the CrossFit game season.
1:04:26
All right, brother.
1:04:27
Shout out to you and your fan base and all your followers.
1:04:31
And I can't tell you how much I appreciate the opportunity, Scott.
1:04:36
Well, thank you.
1:04:36
And everybody in the chat, thank you for being here.
1:04:38
We love you all.
1:04:39
We will see you next time on the Clydesdale Media Podcast.