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Ep. 299: Poppin' Heads with Evan Hafer · The MeatEater Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is me eat your podcast coming at you shirtless,
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  Speaker 1: severely bug bitten and in my case, underwear listening podcast.
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  Speaker 1: You can't predict anything presented by first, like creating proven
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  Speaker 1: versatile hunting apparel from Marino bass layers to technical outerwear
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  Speaker 1: for every hunt. First like go farther, stay longer. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're recording and catch Candle asking me and sat there
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  Speaker 1: doing this one like, uh, you know who John Lennon is, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: got shot beatles and everything. Um, you know his wife
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  Speaker 1: Yoko Ono. I don't know, you're not aware that there
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  Speaker 1: was a dude named John Lennon with a wife named
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  Speaker 1: Yoko Ono. Uh no, I am that you asked if
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  Speaker 1: id new her? That's fair? No, over and me and
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  Speaker 1: Seth are doing, um what was that? Evan? Do you
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  Speaker 1: remember what that was called? Where they wouldn't get out
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  Speaker 1: of bed, where they wouldn't get out of bed. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they did like a bed in remember yeah, you're right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: yeah right now in this hotel exactly, it's exactly the
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  Speaker 1: same John Lennon and Yoko. Yeah, and they wouldn't get
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  Speaker 1: out of bed and they did everything in bed, mean, Seth. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Joined the Day by Evan Hayford. Now you don't know this.
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  Speaker 1: Probably when the pandemic hit. You were our first remote,
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  Speaker 1: the first ever remote person. That's right, I did because
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  Speaker 1: you told me that when we were on the show.
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  Speaker 1: He said, I hate this. I don't like doing them
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  Speaker 1: like this and I can't wait to get back to
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  Speaker 1: doing them in person. Here you are and here I am.
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  Speaker 1: How did you like the title that show, Roasting Coffee
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  Speaker 1: in the CIA? That was a good title, wasn't it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure it didn't. Well it was because I was
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  Speaker 1: technically in the CIA and roasting coffee. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if that's the the entirety of the show, but
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  Speaker 1: it was. No, but I liked it. I thought the
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  Speaker 1: title was good, good, But I had questions about whether
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  Speaker 1: that you might come to me and be like, well,
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  Speaker 1: actually I didn't do that then, No, No, I did excellent.
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  Speaker 1: Um and catch Candle Assid coming after office some wet
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  Speaker 1: ass days and we'll talk more about that. Hunting hunting
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  Speaker 1: blacktail deer um on Prince Wales Island and we'll return
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  Speaker 1: to that. We've got a couple of as as per
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  Speaker 1: usual as usually, got some stuff we gotta cover off
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  Speaker 1: on I'm gonna I'm gonna mess with my order because dirt.
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  Speaker 1: Can you, uh explain what happened to your friend man
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  Speaker 1: the bear the bear guy. Oh, this is a great story.
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  Speaker 1: This is a real This is a real uh you know,
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  Speaker 1: happening makes its own gravy. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think we're on the same page. The the the
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  Speaker 1: tranquil answer. So my buddy Kevin Weiderman, Widerman, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's not that good of friends us. It's a hard
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  Speaker 1: last name. Anyways, Well, which which one is it? Or
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  Speaker 1: don't you know? Widerman? Yeah, he was hunting up at
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  Speaker 1: the family cabinet, was telling you about no, dude, just
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  Speaker 1: we'll stay at that and uh shot a bear and
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  Speaker 1: at the check station f w P said it had
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  Speaker 1: been they had it was collard, and they realized it
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  Speaker 1: had been tranquilized twenty days prior and told him not
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  Speaker 1: to eat the meat. Okay, but hold, I wish you would.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you got to the point real quick. But
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  Speaker 1: I want to back up a little bit. Did he
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  Speaker 1: know his collard? No, he couldn't tell. And he told
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  Speaker 1: me that when I talked to him, He's like, couldn't tell.
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  Speaker 1: Why not? What color? Was the collar. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't tell his collard or tag. Maybe he's an
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  Speaker 1: air tag, I don't know. And then was it tranquilized
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  Speaker 1: and moved or tranquilized it was? It was a trouble
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  Speaker 1: shot of lost bear. It was relocated. Yeah, And this
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  Speaker 1: this was all initially when I texted you, it was
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  Speaker 1: text with what I asked you. And then I called
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  Speaker 1: him before I fled out here to get the just
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  Speaker 1: real quick. And that's all I got was yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't tell it was. And they said, we tranquilized
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  Speaker 1: this bear twenty days ago. You shouldn't eat it because
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  Speaker 1: that tranquil as your drugs in there. Yeah, they recommended
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  Speaker 1: thirty days, to wait thirty days, and before that not
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  Speaker 1: to consume the meat. And he did in ten days.
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  Speaker 1: It would have been okay to eat the tranquil as there.
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  Speaker 1: And he called he his his intuition was to eat
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  Speaker 1: the meat, but he knew what ran was some folks
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  Speaker 1: that knew a lot about that type of stuff. And
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  Speaker 1: he said to ask your buddies, you know what they think.
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  Speaker 1: And I asked you and cow and both of you
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  Speaker 1: kids were like, eat it. Dr Steve, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't want someone coming after you. I don't want to now,
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to meat the ship and then coming
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  Speaker 1: after me. They held accountable. Did he feel sleepy or
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  Speaker 1: so him? What if he eats it and feel sleepy?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you ever listen to this show,
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  Speaker 1: the show you're on right now? Yea? So maybe you
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  Speaker 1: caught the episode where we talked about a guy that
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  Speaker 1: was shot by a tranquilizer. I didn't. They were doing
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  Speaker 1: they were doing mountain lion research stuff and they wanted
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  Speaker 1: to trank a mountain lion, but they didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: fall out of the tree and get hurt. So the
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  Speaker 1: guy was up in the tree with it. Like they'll
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  Speaker 1: put out nets and stuff. They don't joke, put out
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  Speaker 1: nets to test the mountain lion. Somehow the line like
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  Speaker 1: they hit it and the line gets tangled up like
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  Speaker 1: falls asleep on the branch. So he's got to go
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  Speaker 1: up there and try to snaggle it down and you know,
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  Speaker 1: get it to the ground, gets up there and it's
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  Speaker 1: it's not asleep. So he is hooting and hollering about
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  Speaker 1: getting the gun back up there because he wants to
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  Speaker 1: place the shocks. It's in a place where they can't
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  Speaker 1: get at it either way. They up with an idea
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  Speaker 1: to he's gonna lower a rope down and the guy
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  Speaker 1: is gonna tie the tranquilizer gone to the rope. I
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  Speaker 1: don't understand this, but in the process he gets of
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  Speaker 1: him tying it through the trigger guard trunks. The guy
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  Speaker 1: in the tree, I need to listen to this one.
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  Speaker 1: They had to haul him out of the mountains on
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  Speaker 1: a mule, but he didn't die. Didn't die. Yeah, point
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  Speaker 1: being this is for your friend with the bear. Here's
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  Speaker 1: a man that took the full load of the trunk
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  Speaker 1: and was in himself and he's lived to tell about it.
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  Speaker 1: So now you got a bear that has some amount
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  Speaker 1: of it for how many days? Twenty days metabolizing it.
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  Speaker 1: It's distributed throughout its carcass. He's gonna presumably eat it
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  Speaker 1: in a piecemeal fashion. Yeah, not like he's gonna sit
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  Speaker 1: down and eat a hundred pounds of like in a
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  Speaker 1: sitting Yeah, he's gonna eat a half pound here, a
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  Speaker 1: quarter pound there. He's a big eater. He's not gonna
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  Speaker 1: eat at all. But but you see my point. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Like in times like this, I always ask myself this
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, will this be the thing that ends up
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  Speaker 1: killing me native on that, and I'm always like, probably not. Man,
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  Speaker 1: It'll probably be like the normal ship that kills everybody.
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  Speaker 1: And there may not be an answer. But why the
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  Speaker 1: thirty days do you think? I don't know. Why did
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  Speaker 1: they come up with that number? I don't know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's probably how long it takes you out of the system,
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  Speaker 1: the brain out in seth. Well, I'll follow up and
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  Speaker 1: see after little Feller to see if Kevin laying up
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  Speaker 1: in that bed. I'll comfy he hangs out. You're going yeah, um, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so that's that's good. Maybe maybe a train glazer expertal
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  Speaker 1: right in oh so um. Also, Auction House of Bodities,
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  Speaker 1: we're on auction group number four, so we're gonna keep
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  Speaker 1: running the auction outs for a while. Here. I got
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  Speaker 1: a lot of items still, so right now auction group
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  Speaker 1: number four, we have a signed copy of Ridgeline by
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  Speaker 1: two time podcast guest Michael punk Um. That's so that's
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  Speaker 1: his new book, signed Jason Phelps. I'll get this one.
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  Speaker 1: So Phelps just haunted the Elks season successfully. I watched
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  Speaker 1: him in my own two eyes, uh his bow, so
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  Speaker 1: he's got a p s E Evo n x T
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  Speaker 1: three five stripped of accessories so you can you can
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  Speaker 1: go buy Phelps's actual elk hunting bow and the actual
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  Speaker 1: bugle tube he used all throughout the season, well bloodied
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  Speaker 1: bugle tube. UH. The prototype so we worked with We
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  Speaker 1: we have skull mountains out like desk mounts, wall mounts.
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  Speaker 1: We worked with my favorite fabricator, Travis Barton Barton Fabrication
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  Speaker 1: Um near our hometown. There. We were with him to
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  Speaker 1: make these things and he came up with a prototype.
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  Speaker 1: We're auctioning off the prototype wall school mount one of
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  Speaker 1: the kind ship here, folks. We also got a hand
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  Speaker 1: forged carving knife by Kirkpatrick Forge and Sheridan, Oregon. This
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: is one of a pair of knives we had. The
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  Speaker 1: other one's gone now designed for carving large hunks of meat.
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  Speaker 1: Riley Kirkpatrick made this for Callahan to be used on
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  Speaker 1: special occasions, but Cal says they're two nice for how
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  Speaker 1: infrequently he has special occasions happened to him, so he
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  Speaker 1: wants someone that will be able to put this into
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  Speaker 1: good use. Also, our very own Maggie Smith UH a
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  Speaker 1: beautiful photography photograph of a bull moose. The photograph is
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  Speaker 1: called some Serious side Eye. It's a bull, moose and
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  Speaker 1: velvet from our own geographer and editor, Maggie Smith. She
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  Speaker 1: was doing a river trip, ran into a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: four five moose. This one strucker she folded. She snapped
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  Speaker 1: hundreds of photos of it. This is her favorite one.
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  Speaker 1: And then uh moss Montana moss Agate hoop earrings. So
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  Speaker 1: Spencer the rock Hound New Hearth are very own who
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  Speaker 1: runs our Trivita program here he found him. His wife
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  Speaker 1: turned them into beautiful pieces of jewelry. Those around the
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  Speaker 1: auction house. And then continuing on the auction house and
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  Speaker 1: something you don't gotta buy, go sign up for a
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  Speaker 1: chance to win Doss Boat. It's like Dose Boat. So
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  Speaker 1: it's the boat from Doss Boat season two. We already
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  Speaker 1: gave away the boat from Doss Boat one. This is
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  Speaker 1: the boat from Doss Boat to It belonged to my
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: childhood fishing mentor, John Gary. When he passed away, it
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  Speaker 1: came to live at my house, lived in my mom's
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: Pole Bron. I moved away. They lived in the Pole
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  Speaker 1: Barron for twenty years. We got it out, refurbished it
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  Speaker 1: with a new Honda for stroke on it. Got it
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  Speaker 1: a beautiful, crazy ass paint job. It's all tricked out.
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  Speaker 1: What everything you could possibly want. Doss boat dose boat
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  Speaker 1: up for grabs right now, go sign up and get
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  Speaker 1: its being the auction house. Uh, we had skunk essence.
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  Speaker 1: We gave away a bottle of skunk Austens that uh
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  Speaker 1: that me and Seth and Chester pulled out of some
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  Speaker 1: skunks with a syringe. And then it's prompted a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people writing skunk stories. Here's a skunk story. It's
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  Speaker 1: not a prank, but it's just a good skunk. Aussen
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  Speaker 1: story has to do with skunk essence and freedom mounts
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  Speaker 1: and furnaces. So this guy goes on to say he's
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  Speaker 1: in Iowa hunting shotgun season and he finds a large
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  Speaker 1: white tail deadhead. Now you got deadheads that like the dead,
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  Speaker 1: right Devan, and then you've got deadheads that are dead things,
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  Speaker 1: dead things. This is a dead thing deadhead. It's a
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  Speaker 1: dead white tail. Got it. You didn't find just a
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  Speaker 1: dead a dead deadhead, dead deadhead. It's just a deadhead,
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  Speaker 1: easy to find. Very colorful. Yeah, because if he was
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  Speaker 1: getting a school amount of a dead deadhead that he
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  Speaker 1: found were probably notified. I had to notify the authorities
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  Speaker 1: because I don't want to be implicated. This is a
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  Speaker 1: dead white tail's head. So here's where he does. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't make total sense. He takes the head in the
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  Speaker 1: anidlers and puts into garbage bag. Sure that makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Then he places it in the window well of his
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  Speaker 1: uncle's house, odd keeping it safe. Why, yeah, you find
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  Speaker 1: a dead school put in the bag. I'm with you.
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  Speaker 1: Any nine out of ten people are gonna bag it.
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  Speaker 1: Puts in his uncle's window well, where it resides for
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  Speaker 1: some time. Eventually, the uncle who owns the window well
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  Speaker 1: takes the bag with the dead head into the furnace room.
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  Speaker 1: Unbeknownst to him, a skunk is in the bag, snacking
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  Speaker 1: on the rotten head that got in there from the window,
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  Speaker 1: and he grabs the bag. Okay, when the skunk gets
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  Speaker 1: in the house, it starts caught and loose. It gives
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  Speaker 1: his furnace a direct hit. Two years later, when you
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  Speaker 1: come in the house, there's still the faintest skunk smell,
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  Speaker 1: a little whiff that makes you want to just replace
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  Speaker 1: your whole miss sure this or the whole house? It
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  Speaker 1: makes me It's get a little extreme but yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: makes me think that it might have been a deadhead
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  Speaker 1: that found the deadhead story. That's a crazy story. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it could be. That might be a good show, Deadheads
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  Speaker 1: hunting for Deadhead. It's like you have deadheads that walk
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  Speaker 1: around the woods and then you follow what they do
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  Speaker 1: with the dead heads when they find them window sills.
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  Speaker 1: I have a skunk question. It might be a better
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  Speaker 1: time than No, that's a great time. No time like
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  Speaker 1: the present for that kind of stuff. Dirt my neighbor's dog. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: but this is right before New Mexico. Actually I was
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  Speaker 1: gonna bring it up, but I didn't get a chance.
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  Speaker 1: Um bit off the attack to skunk got sprayed and
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  Speaker 1: um when they went out to figure out what's going on,
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  Speaker 1: this skunk's tail was with Pindler as the dog's name.
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  Speaker 1: Now does that does the tail? Can you back up?
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  Speaker 1: I'm confused? Go ahead, dog attacked the skunk and at
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  Speaker 1: the crime scene they found the skunks tail and a
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  Speaker 1: sprayed dog. The dog ripped the skunks tail off. My
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  Speaker 1: question is does the tail regulate that action? Like was
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  Speaker 1: it a loose cannon at that point? Just like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's a skunk. Just I don't know that's probably one
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  Speaker 1: for half a finger. Yeah, but I'm gonna say doesn't
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  Speaker 1: regulate that. That's not how he regulates. Okay, that tail
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  Speaker 1: is almost like I want to think, it's almost like
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  Speaker 1: a warning flag because it's so colorful. It's yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's time to get the heck out of in in
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  Speaker 1: fur trap and lowerm seth. You'll have your own thing
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  Speaker 1: about this, yep, and for when I was a kid,
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  Speaker 1: and for trapping. Lord. When you have a skunk and
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  Speaker 1: they're generally like in the old days, people would trap
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  Speaker 1: skunks for the commercial markets, and they still have value,
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  Speaker 1: but now they have value on the how do you
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  Speaker 1: what do you call it novelty trade? Yeah, skunk prices
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  Speaker 1: aren't tied to fur markets, so they're not tied to
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  Speaker 1: sort of like all the international ship like oil prices
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  Speaker 1: and what the economy in South Korea is like and
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  Speaker 1: what the Russians are up to. Um, like normal fur
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  Speaker 1: that goes into fur garments. It's sort of tied to
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  Speaker 1: all this you know, political global economic ship. Uh so
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  Speaker 1: it's tied to like a company that could be making
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  Speaker 1: something specific like a jacket that ends up being really
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  Speaker 1: popular and all of a sudden the skunk prices might go. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's all novelty. I see the novelty. The skunk fur
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  Speaker 1: market is novelty trade. So it's like you drunk uncle,
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  Speaker 1: I would think it's funny to have a skunk hat,
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  Speaker 1: or people want to skunk wall hanging. It's like it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't go. It's like the novelty trade drive skunk prices,
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  Speaker 1: and so skunk prices stay pretty stable, like I think
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  Speaker 1: like a like a put up skunk stays around like
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  Speaker 1: not much. What was the six bucks? Okay, that's curious?
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  Speaker 1: Uh what was I getting at? Oh? But skunks are
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  Speaker 1: very common bycatch fox and kyote trapping. Um. We caught
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of them kyote in a bunch of coyotes
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  Speaker 1: sets that SETH and I set this year. Hence the
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  Speaker 1: bottle of skunk gussons yep um. I was always taught
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  Speaker 1: that if you shot it in the heart with the
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  Speaker 1: twenty two um, that's the best way to make it
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  Speaker 1: not spray. Nowadays people um have a syringe on a
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  Speaker 1: long stick trankt No, I don't even want to tell
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  Speaker 1: you what they're put in there. Who this is a
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  Speaker 1: family program. My imagination is black rifle cough. This sunk
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  Speaker 1: gets real energy. We're done on that, right. Yeah. I
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  Speaker 1: still didn't get an answer on the tail, but maybe
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  Speaker 1: someone I'm telling you, man, I don't think there has
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  Speaker 1: anything to do with it. There's not a muscle. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure that he's got like a I'm sure that he's
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  Speaker 1: got like a a sphincter type prostrate type finger another
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  Speaker 1: that it's got a muscle. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm
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  Speaker 1: getting at. Okay, um is that is that skunk essence?
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  Speaker 1: Like drawing over someone win it? Yeah, Gareth getting ready
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  Speaker 1: to ship it out. I wonder what you want to
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  Speaker 1: know what I'd be curious what they're gonna do with it.
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  Speaker 1: You don't you want to know what Joe Bieber there
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  Speaker 1: um in Minnesota, what he does with it, How they
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  Speaker 1: store it. It's a hot tip. They probably don't store
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  Speaker 1: it like you stuck to the outside of your house.
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  Speaker 1: They don't know. They don't staple to their outside their house.
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  Speaker 1: They he said, what you do is you get like
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  Speaker 1: coffee can feel full sand Oh, now there's a thing
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  Speaker 1: that's going on obsoletes coffee cans. Evan can probably tell
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  Speaker 1: you about that. That might be a cool retro product.
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  Speaker 1: Funny you say that I do can the old You
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  Speaker 1: do the old type of can that you put worms
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  Speaker 1: in when you get you do or bolts. We do
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  Speaker 1: a aluminum can on some of our limited offerings, so
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: then you put your worms in their bolts or yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they spent casings whatever. People putting coffee cans. Well, that
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  Speaker 1: was part of the genesis because I was out cleaning
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  Speaker 1: out my grandfather's shop and he had all these cans,
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  Speaker 1: coffee cans like everywhere, right, nuts and bolts, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, once you and they were all the folders cans,
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  Speaker 1: they're all red. It was like this guy drank the
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  Speaker 1: same coffee for probably thirty years. Because you like to
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  Speaker 1: calvi his garage organized. That's one of the reasons I
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: was like, man, I think this business might be kind
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: of sticky. He reinvented the wheel man um oh anyways
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: to store um scun gastons and other very potent odors
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: like fox urine or whatever. Take um can like that
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: and fill the full sand and then you put it
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: in the You put the bottle in the middle of
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: the sand and then pack the sand on protects it
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: from breaking. In the older, he said, the older doesn't
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: get out of that. It's just packed in sand. It
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: is a good timp. Here's an interesting deal, Krand I
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  Speaker 1: could tell things this is super Krims not with us
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: right now, but I can tell she thinks it's super
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: interesting because of how much she really liked a lot
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: like I Krinn really likes. Krine finds an interesting thing,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: and she she'll highlight the part she likes. Holy smokes,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: she likes a lot of this article. It's about that
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: California condors not even know if other birds can do
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: this too. You guys ever heard of parthenogenesis? No? Okay,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: bear with me. At a time that we were down,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: like very like California condors due to you know, poisoning
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: and shooting and habitat destruction became you know, like they're
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: they're very famous, um for how low their population got
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: to be where they were saved from that they were
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: safe through a captive breeding programs. So in eighty two
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: there were only twenty two California condors in existence. Okay,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Apparently it's hard to look at a condor and tell
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: if you're looking at a boy or a girl, um,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: which is true. A lot of birds you gotta kind
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: of open their clothe aco up and you'll find this
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: little wormy thing in there. Anyhow, they developed the test
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: um two determine the sex of the condors, and they
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: split these birds up into these into two captive breeding facilities.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: As this captive breeding thing went on over the years,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: they also began doing DNA testing on these birds because
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: they wanted to avoid breeding closely related individuals. Recently, now
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: scientists decided to undertake a complete genetic analysis of the population,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: which is now, you know, some nine hundred birds, so
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: from two nine and they have all these like samples
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: from condors, right, they have blood, they have eggshell membranes,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: they have tissue from deceased birds, they have feathers from birds.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: So they're doing this analysis all these birds and they
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: find two birds out of the nine there's two birds
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: that are missing genetic material from the male who shared
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: the enclosure with the female that laid the eggs. Drag itsmatham,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: this is cool. You seriously think that this is awesome.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: They did multiple samples off these birds because they felt
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: they were making a mistake. They were confident it wasn't
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: a mistake. What they realize is that condors at least
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: a couple of times can reproduce through parthenogenesis, a form
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: of reproduction in which an egg can develop into an
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: embryo without being fertilized by a sperm. It seems like
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: there was an air somewhere. No, I believe, so check
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: this out. Condors can live into their fifties. But both
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: of the male chicks born of a sexual reproduction were
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: relatively small and died before becoming sexually mature at one
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: point nine and seven point nine years old. Then the
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: article goes on to be annoying. Wait, how does a
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: female have a male baby without any fertilization. You'll have
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: to write these people and ask them, does any other
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: bird do that? I'm sure it does. Want wants to
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: look up part pull it up that word. Here's where
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the article gets annoying. And this is the thing that
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: everybody does. It's super annoying. Goes on to say. He
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: adds speaking in one of the scientists, that the condor
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: is a remarkable species that has survived from the place
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: to scene era. Everything has survived from the place to scene.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Are people are like the muskox a plice scene relative?
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Why don't they say like humans a places scene or
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: rats scene relic or chicken Eass scene relicate. No, there's
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: not like you can't name a creature that's not a
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: place to scene relic. Yeah, you can't name me one
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: name a like from from from the from the palis
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: to scene hollow, scene transition. What brand new things are there?
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Got me? But why why is it always the Muskox,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: the pleist scene relicate. No one's ever like the white
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: tailed Deer Relicate. It's like everything is that should be
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: the next T shirt you'd have, just like a bunch
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: of pictures of dude would be like a dude. It's
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: a shirt with a dude like it looks like like
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: a just a dude like me. That says Plisscene relic
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: that's what we should have a T shirt like hot Cakes.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Steve's face on a T shirt says, I don't know
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: if I want to be the preying on it, but
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I think it would be a great shirt with the
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: glasses down. It's a glasses down to see relic like
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: when I'm like when I when my spectacles in the
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: tip of mind and do a special fishack edition where
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: they're all fogged up. Well, our our condor special other
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: than being place to scene relics. Well, there's special but
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: there's only twenty two of them left now. They're also
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: the condors also sit at the and this this sort
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: of ties into your thing. I'm not gonna spend too
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: much time on um. It's a little bit ugly right now.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: It gets a little bit ugly. So if you were
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: to go and ask, like see, i'm i'm I'm getting
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: into the deep end of the pool here dirt. This
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: is where like biology meets politics. I don't like that
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: lead lead yep in um. Hunters are often blamed for
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: continuing condor depths. Other people point up other causes lead,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: but condors have a lot of problems with lead poisoning.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Some people point to that they're getting lead from scavenging
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: carcasses left over by hunters, and they're ingesting lead and
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: then will be fifty years, and over the course of
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: fifty years they find enough deer carcass doesn't get lead
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: um now Like for it was in the eighties when
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: the lead band came for waterfowl, everybody got pissed. People
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: eventually got used to it. But like you used to
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: be able to shoot lead at ducks and geese. Are
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: people that quit hunting ducks and geese because they had
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: to switch to steel non toxic shot. California had like
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: the condor recovery zone and you could you couldn't use
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: lead ammunition, and the kind of the condo recovery zone
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: even like twenty two and stuff, you got copper. This article,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: like like a lot of articles like this, they always have.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: They always take like a little potshot at hunters. And
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: so the article goes on and take a little totshout
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: at hunters about um this thing. And it's like, I'm
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: not gonna get into right now. There's people we should
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: we should have. We'll have someone on to talk about it.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: There is some healthy debate about this. Okay, where the
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: lead comes from and all this and then and then
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: uh and some people would some some people view that,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: uh the con that that that that that's not entirely
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: to blame for the demise of the condor and all
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. But it's it splits politically in
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: some ways. Yeah, buddy, So uh. Pat Durkin on our
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: website recently wrote a thing about increased use of coperamto
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: right and and what's going on in California where it's
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: like they can't use lead anymore, and like and and
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: certain ammo is hard to find right now, as you know,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: and like exacerbates the problem. People are very frustrated all
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. Uh gets into you know, and
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Durkins think gets into that little bit. Um. But it
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: got me thinking when you say, like, uh, when you're
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: watching the Western, they're feeling full of lead. Yeah, Garrett Long,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: our colleague has a quote, Um, when there's lead in
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: the air, there's hoping the heart. Oh that's a good one.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Well you were in the future where you'd be like,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I'm filled them full of copper when there's copper near
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: the heart, you know what I mean. It's hard transition,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: man and west copper gonna do too. You know. Well,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: this is this one Feller Crian thought it was interesting,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: but I don't think it's that interesting. It's one Feller
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: rolled in about all the trouble with copper and uh,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: yeah endless you know why, because I'm not totally prepared
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: to talk about it, because there's like studies, for instance,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: everybody points there's a lot of stuff like people are
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: like I don't want to use like move away from
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: birds for a minute, now, it's not even the debatable point. Waterfowl.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: A lot of waterfowl got killed by lead shot that
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: got killed by lead shot for this reason. Um, you
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: have areas where you have a lot of hunters in
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: a concentrated fashion putting a lot of pellets in them.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Are So you have marsh lands, wetlands, crop fields where
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: guys are shooting boxes of shells right all the time,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: and those birds pick up grit for their gizzard. And
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: so you're in areas where there's like a lead pellet
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: of a size very attractive to the bird as digestive grit,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: and you have concentrations of it in areas where birds concentrate,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: and so they would accumulate lead in their gizzard and
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: their gizzard grinds that let up, and it was causing
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: bird death. But then a lot of things caused bird death.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Cars kill birds. House Cats kill a billion birds a
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: year in the country, and people aren't like, we should
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: ban house cats, right, wind turbans kill birds. Skyscrapers kill birds.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Glass windows kill birds, and people aren't like we should
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: ban glass windows. No more windows. So you know, some
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: people look and be like, why of all the things
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: that kill birds. Why is that the the we gotta
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: give our thing up? You don't give You're not giving
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: your house cat up. You know all this kind of stuff.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Complicated it is. And then the other part, the other
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: reason we should like we should almost have it be
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: where we have like a we should have a debate.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: That would be a good idea. Get like one person
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: from one side, the most informed person on one side
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: of this, and the most informed person on one side,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: and they go toe to toe friendly though with time allotment.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well we'll run like a debate. Man, it's
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: great idea. You can come dirt all right, I'll do
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: the button pushing um. Because there's things like, for instance,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: some people will sight wanting to some people will cite
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: like I I quit hunting with lead because I don't
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: want my family exposed to lead. But then no one
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: can find evidence of hunters having elevated lead. In fact,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: they found they did this one study. I think it
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: was in the Dakota's hunters have less lead than average
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: cause they live in rural environments. Right, I got some
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: When you're in an urban environment, like you can go
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: in a second. You're in an urban environment where you
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: have huge concentrations of automobiles that were burning leaded fuel.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: And it's like in the soil and in old housing
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: areas that had lead paint that you can't point be
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: like hunters are at risk of lead. You'd be like
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Brooklyn Knights are at list are at risk of elevated
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: levels of blood. So you know there's all these arguments
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: like human health, wildlife health. Yeah, it's a it's a
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: rich field of inquiry, and no matter what answer you
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: come up with, someone's gonna be piste, go ahead, dirt.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: As left handers, I mean you don't know if Evan,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: are you left handed? No? I'm normal. Where's this going?
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: So three of us in the room being left handed? Normal? Babe, Ruth.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: You remember when you used to write stuff on paper
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: That doesn't happen anymore in school. But the left handers,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: you don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, I actually
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: you don't have kids, no, But they're on iPads and laptops. Man,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you I have three of them. They write
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: on paper with pencils lead or any of them left
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: hand it's graph fight. Uh never mine was old pencils lead.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: But the smudging, like the smudges. But it's not lead,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: it's graph fights. Okay, never mind, disregard. I was excited
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: for you to get there. I was rooting for him
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: when he starts talking to MYR, was rooting for him.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I'm always hoping he's going to pull something off, because
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: time he does pull off something, good man, that is graphite.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Damn well they didn't. There was as you have been
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: right and think about as a young child writing them essays,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: getting a smudge on your hand, absorbing that maybe left
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: handers are have a higher percentage of let him of graphite,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: poison graph You end up like licking it off, clean it. No,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I just smudge? Is that what you do? Chick? Lick
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: it off? Explains a lot. Jaster, here's a good one
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: for you, buddy, Ready some Wisconsins. Are you ready for
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: something from Scannie? Hit it a diver? This is great.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: The diver was going to test out some scuba equipment. Okay,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: picks a nondescript spot to test his scuba equipment. What
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: does he find in thirty ft of water one thousand,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: two hundred year old fishing canoe lake Mindota, Wisconsin Lakes
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: right near Madison, which is kind of if you think
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: about how popular that lake is. It's right in Madison,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: and they still are finding stuff like the picture here
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: they had fishing weights on it and some other equipment.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Really well, that is crazy. One thousand two So from
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: eight hundred a d. What was it made out of?
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: I may miss that lead this grab it's a wooden canoe.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I wonder if they talked about their fishing canoes like
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: we talked about our fishing boats these days. It looks
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: like it's kind of lashed together with you see that. Yeah,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: they might have done that the whole I think what
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: you're looking at their pulled it together as they didn't
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: want to fall apart. Yeah, that makes sense. That is crazy.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: It is cool though, one thousand two d year old canoe,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Lake Mendota. Some kids in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. There's pictures of
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: that's sitting in school speaking little kids in school. Bamn,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: a moose bust is the window. There's a bunch of
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: pictures of the moose standing in the classroom. What yeah,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: right on into school. Anybody hurt? Maybe it's a messy
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: ass classroom, saskatooneezy. It looks like a lot of blood
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: on the ground. Unless that's I don't know, water bottles sanitizer.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: It looks like there's a hand sanitizer bottle there. There
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: there was a bear that got into the Bozeman High
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: School a few years ago. Okay, Chester got some stuff
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: on Chetakare you ready for this? A lot of people
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: writing in with CHETAKA questions for Chester. I love it too.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I kind of want to read this letter, but it's
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: so I'll read it, but I'm gonna do u Oh yeah,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: all right, I'll read it. No, how you how do
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: you want to read it? So let me let me
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: lay the groundwork. Burbank, Washington. This just happened to three
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: youth hunters got up in the morning and beat what
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: looked like an older gentleman to his duck blind. So
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: they were okay, racing to get there. The guy that
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: wanted to get there to the blind first but didn't
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: get there, goes and touches off four rounds near the
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: kids storms off. They got scared, but what was gonna happen?
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: So then they packed up their decoys and went back
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: to the truck. And what awaits them on their truck window. Chester,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: there's a letter um who wants to do the beep
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: when I point at him. So you know what, let's
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: just do this man, just read it and then um,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: because there's it's it's really something. I mean I imagine
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: there must be a dozen them in there, some of them.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: He doubles up it. Okay, Philip, make it more. This
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: is the letter and left on the truck from the
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: old man. This is the old man's This teenis to
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: have his mouth washed out with it. Just this drives
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: me nuts, but I'm reading it. This is my spot, asshole.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: My grandpa built all the blinds on this shoreline. Next
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: time I see this truck here, the truck is mine.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: You best watch yourself, boy, and stay the out of burbank.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: You are very lucky. I don't slash these tires right now.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Off j I don't think i've ever heard you say
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: that word before Chester that I was going to keep. Um.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously in etiquette standards, that's not that's just
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: that's just plain old nasty. And you're talking about the
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: kids taking the blind right, these kids taking old guy's blinds. No,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: I mean like there's a couple of questions, like, I'm
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: sure this is public land. Um, you know, if it's
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: public land. People have to just and you see this
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: all over you know. I've gotten letters from people being like,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: you know, get the hell away from this spot and whatnot.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: But if it's public land, it's everyone's right to hunt it.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: And um. The other day, speaking of just duck hunting,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: because these guys were hunting, Seth and I drove to
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: a spot near Bozeman and we got to the spot
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: and there was a dude who was part there and
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: he left a duck decoy under his tire. And I
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: think that guy left that duck decoy there so people
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: would know he was duck hunting. It's a small, small
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: little spot, and you just I'm sorry, I was reading something.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: What now. So Seth and I drove to a duck
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: hunting spot the other day. There was a guy parked
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: in that spot and he had the decoy, left a
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: duck decoy under his tire so people would know he
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: was duck hunting. I think that's why he left it there.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: He could have just forgot it, but it is a
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: good idea. So like, if I showed up at that
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: spot in the morning, it's public land, you see a
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: guy parked there. You know, it's a small spot. Give him,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: just give him some space, like go somewhere else in
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: that particular area. It was like a one little pond.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: You know, you can't hunt, you know, did you guys
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: slash his tires um? We left a very similar note.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Photocopy that note and then leave it blank where it
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: says burbank And then I don't know what means does
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: he feel? What did you think that that man? The
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: kids were hispanic? Is that what that is? What that is? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Oh he needed to twist the knife a little bit
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: in there, and like it sounds that that that's what that.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: I couldn't tell what the hell that man, but that's
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: what he means. Yeah, I mean definitely, man, it's people
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: just gotta stop being such assholes. Really, Like I didn't
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: even when you were reading that, I didn't even get
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: that he had like a little racial slur. And to
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: finish her off. If you don't want something someone hunting
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: your duck blind, don't put it on public land. Yeah.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: And if you're going to get that bent out of
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: shape from something like that, why are you even hunting?
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: That enjoyable for you? Well, I wouldn't gun. Yeah, Yeah,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: he's a little unstable. I think they have a bunch
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: of people waiting for that. Dude Fine comes back the
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: most riled up I've seen him the entire trip. He
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: takes Jeddako very seriously. Someone seen the veins popping his forehead.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: He's getting angry. It was clear though in that that
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: it was public land. I wasn't. It's not clear, but
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I'm if it was it of course it is, yeah,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, and if it is, there could be this
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I who wrote this note. He could be doing something
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: illegal by building blinds and leaving them there. So we
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: don't even know that. But well, he is going to
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: be in violation because all states have one. He's in
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: violation of his hunter harassment law. Yeah. And to me,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: that's not even like an etiquette thing. It's just kind
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: of like that's a good slogan for the book and
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: ain't etiquette. Yeah anyway, So are you're gonna put like
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: a blind etiquette session in their section? Yeah? Um, yep.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Sean Weaver is helping me out, said he would like
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: to help me out with the duck hunting stuff, and uh,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: he could bring some light on that. It's great in there.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I think you boys ought to put in there a
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: little bit about skyblasts and ducks that are working someone
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: else's spread. Oh yeah, that's gotta go in there. That's
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: that's not very good etiquette, jettiqutte. But there's a there's
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: a part of it, not that you're not crafty, little finger.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: There's a part of it that's gonna be It's almost
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: like there's a sort of magic to it of that
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to spell it out clearly.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Like, for instance, we used to always spend
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: the open day of duck season in the Moskegan Marsh okay,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: as did a lot of people Big Marsh, similar to
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: like the horricon Marsh where but all those people that
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: it made the duck hunting good, Like you got limits
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: right because the birds were just flying all day because
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: people are coming to going whatever. But you'd go out
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: and you still have to find an appropriate spacing based
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: on the idea of of the density of people that
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: were in the marsh. If you went later in the
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: year and it was an opening day, you would never
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: and there weren't that many people out, you would never
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: hunt as close to another party as was acceptable on
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: opening day because of how many people are out it's
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: hard to explain the stuff. It's hard to articulate that.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: It's like a big part of this is like try
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: and use some common sense and be respectable, and that's
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: like one of the only very hard to explain. I'm
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: sure it's probably regional too. Yeah, but I think you
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: know what would be a good way to do that
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: is talk to duck hunters that we know in different
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: states and kind of get an average of kind of
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: what they're all saying and how to say it. And
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: I feel like you could get something in there. You
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: know what, I think you shouldn't put in the book
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: because it wouldn't be applicable to enough people. But there
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: used to be a thing in muskrat trapping where let's
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: let's say you have a November one muskrat opener public
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: land guys would go out ahead of season and start
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: staking their sets as the way to claim. So you'd
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: go to a feed bed, put your steak, go to
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: a house, put your steak in a pre stake it
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: and in their mind they're claiming it, but there would
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: be nothing preventing you from coming in and wiring off
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: to that steak. Sure, tell your your specific story to
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: that I remember you're saying where it caved in on
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: on his trap that was there that I had to
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: talk a guy out of beat my ass when I
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: was in high school. So I'll say, right what has happened.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say who it was. I'll tell you
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: where it happened. There's a highway called M one. If
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: you look on the map, find Twin Lake, Michigan and
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: find Holton, Michigan. And one between Twin Lake and Holton
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Cross is a thing called Cedar Creek. There was a
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: undercut bank, which is like mink like to run undercut banks.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: They they like to. They don't want they want to
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: protect themselves from raptors and stuff lives under their frogs
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: and crayfish and stuff was unarchas, so they're always running
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: undercut banks. Common mink set. This is just bed your traps.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: That there's a half inch or an inch of water
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: over the pan right up tight against the wall the
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: undercut bank, because he's gonna be running along, swimming running
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: along there. I go up to a nice like an
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: undercut bank, and I'm digging out a trap bed and
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: find a trap not recently died and waxed, no tag
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: on it. I think it's a it's a trap from
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: years past. I put it in my pack basket and
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I make my own set. They're thinking, I, oh, the
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: fit failed to mention this. It was sprung and it
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: was like down deep sprung, so I thought the bank
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: had caved in. What ever his long old trap. I
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: placed my own tagged trap in the exact spot. So
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: these two mink trappers thinking like I placed my own
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: tag trap right there. I can't reme if it was
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: that dare. The next day, I'm at a spot making
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: a fox set and uproars like this, like driving like
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: he's in the Baja one thousand up to me. It
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: doesn't go to me, though, goes to my truck. I'm
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: across the field and he's ripping through my truck, finds
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: his trap untagged, and then wants to beat my ass
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: for having stole his trap and put mine are. Yeah,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: this guy is huge, I say, and i'd be you know,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: And I'm like you, don't you think I appreciate life
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: enough to where I wouldn't do that to you? Yeah,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: but you didn't know it was with your leaving your
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: info there too. Yeah, And then I leave, like my
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: business card there. Yeah, man, put that that Chettikot book. Yeah,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: but that's another thing. You'd be like tag your goddamn
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: traps because that's the way you should do it. And
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: that's coming straight from Chester. All right, Evan, Uh, to
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: what degree do you feel like talking? Like you're all
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: over the news people are sending me like news articles
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: about Black Rifle coffee company. I'll talk about whatever you want.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, do you feel like talking
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: about it? Sure, you're all on the news. I'm doing
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: my hand jes because like your rer recent like news news. Yeah,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: we're prepping on i p O. So we did, uh
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: explain to people the hell that means initial public offering
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: or i p O is taking a couple of company public.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: We're doing it through um special purpose acquisition, which is
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: a spack. So we and it's there's a couple different
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: ways you can do it. You can do a direct
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: listing or you can do a spack, and we went
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: with a spack. There was a timing issue, so we
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: we've been preparing for this for about three years, oh no,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: kids really four years, four years. So there's a lot
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: of preparation that goes into this. So I started four
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: years ago. Well, rewind seven years ago. I started the
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: company seven years ago. I was like, can you tell
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: people how you met your wife? Yeah? Yeah, I met
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: her at a coffee shop, So spider in a coffee shop.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Spider in a coffee shop, and then found her online
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: stock level twenty, recognized that she was buying espresso machine
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: and realized that's the coffee lady. Yeah, I realized it,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: and then chatted her up. And she's sporting some guns
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: trying to do, uh, pull some shots on that espresso machine.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Like ladies got some vascularity in her arms. She probably
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: likes to run a bit, and uh, I was right,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: And that was before I started the company. But when
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: I started it, it was you know, building a big,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: big company was never necessarily something that was It was
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: gold driven for It's more of given the circumstance of
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: the size, would be great to be able to share
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: the success of the company with my customers. That's what
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I wanted to do from the very beginning. So I've
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: always built it around what I call is self licking
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: ice cream cone. So are you gonna write a book
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: something with the subscription. It was always about delivering you know,
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: fresh the freshest roasted coffee two people like straight out
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: of the roaster. As I talked about it earlier with you,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: was that a coffee has about seventy two hours for
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: it to do what's called off gas, so it's expanding
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: through the roasting process. Then it stops, uh, and then
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: you bag it and then you ship it out to
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: your customer, and it has a couple of weeks in
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: there that it really tastes good. Uh. And so I
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: wanted people to have that and wanted to the customers
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: to see what I saw in coffee, have this like
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: great experience, fresh roasted coffee that was through the subscription.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: And I teamed up with companies early on to get
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: discounts for you know, their gear, and a lot of
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: it was all built around the lifestyle. So a lot
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: of it was you know, shooting and hunting and things
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: like that with these other brands. So if you join
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: the subscription, you could get a discount with these other companies.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: It was like, well, shoot, if if I you know,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Federal was one of our early companies that we did
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: business with, so if you took a discount from Federal,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys that spent a lot of
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: money on Ammo, could theoretically pay for your coffee through
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: the entire year. So with that subscription as my original intent,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: and then the the second layer that was to be
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: able to share the profits with the customers as well.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: So if we grew, stock goes up, h theoretically speaking,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: between your discounts and stock price, you should be able
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: to pay for your coffee. So that's what I've always wanted.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: I've always wanted to build it that way. I didn't
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: understand how complex it was, you know, being naive, well,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: being dumb when you when you really start, when you
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: start to build these things like oh you have to
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: go in and build basically these these financial institutions within
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: the company that audit your financials. It's it's fairly complex
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: and robust, robust process. Is there a thing that is
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: there a regulatory measure that the company has a hit
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: a certain size and revenue to go publicly? Could someone
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: theoretically take a one company public? Is that blocked? You
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: know what? That's a good question. I don't know. I
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: know that what we when we were very early on,
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: they wanted us to be bigger, uh, because they didn't
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: feel the stock price would perform well if it was
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: not a bigger size company, so they wanted us to
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: hit a gross revenue number before they would they would
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: do a direct listing or even entertain the idea. UM.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: But I don't know if there's a if there's a
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: regulation that says that you have to meet X because
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of companies that will go public based
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: on a future possibility of profits, so they don't necessarily
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: even have any profits. So probably not. But that's a
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: good question. I don't know. So what happens to you know, Uh, well,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: in the next couple of months, we'll get a ticker. Um.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: It's all based on on the FED and when they
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: when they approve it and then release it back, and
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: then from that point, you know, people will be able
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: to purchase it. They can't right now it's under a
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: different ticker through those back but then uh, then we'll
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: get our own ticker, probably February March depending. I don't know.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: It's all based on federal timing and when they're gonna
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: sign off on it. So when you're sitting there watching
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: business news and all the stuff going across the bottom,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: you'll see BRCC run across the bottom, Yes, sir, Yeah, yeah,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: I've watched it every day since we've announced it, but
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: it's not every day, I guess every other day or
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: whenever I was like look at my phone trying to
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: figure it out. Yeah, we were deer hunting through a
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: lot of this was that uh welcome distraction or you
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: where you kind of wished you were like back at
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: Command Central. There were only maybe a couple of seconds
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: I was wishing I was back at Command Central. This
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: is a great distraction. And it's not a distraction. It's
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: a focus, right, it's a it's a it was I
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: was thinking a lot about that today, where being quiet
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: and then moving through the woods after you know, Blacktail
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: was something I was only focused on that, so not
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: thinking about business. You know, every minute we're talking about
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: it or having meetings or something like that. Is it
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: is a really good opportunity to make the announcement. Uh,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: then come out here because it was out here that
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: I think the day after, I think, um, it was
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: it was really good to get away from all of
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: it because you can be completely absorbed in quite literally
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: a little bit useless, uh to the the entire endeavor.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: It takes you know, months if not years for this
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: stuff to mature and then move forward. There's so much
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: work you're never going to get it done. So five days,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: six days, that's it's not going to mean anything grand skiing.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: It's like grain. It's like a grain of sand and
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: a beach. Right, it's just kind of all absorbs. It's not.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: It feels like it's really important at the time. And
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: I knew that because, you know, there were guys who
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: are like, well, why do you want to go out
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: there now? And I'm like, because I want to go
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: out there and go hunting. And now that's why you
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: don't start. You don't do this stuff. So you chained
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: to it all the time. It was, yeah, you don't
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: pass up an opportunity to come hunting with you know,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Steve Ronnella and meat eat or you don't do that
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: like that's it doesn't really matter. I would have had
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: to have had some significant family issues that would have
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: had to trump that opportunity. You know, you think about
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: there are tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: of people that would probably you know, trim a limb
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: to do that like an individual. Yeah, so you can't
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: squander an opportunity unless it's just absolutely something you know,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: traumatic that's happening in your life, because that's disrespectful to
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: the opportunity. Ultimately, man, thank you, that's kind. Let me
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: lay a little groundwork people, little talk like your impressions
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: of the specifics. Uh. We years ago filmed we feel
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: we feel a few blacktail hunts in southeast Alaska, so
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: it's Sitka blacktail. You have columb your black tails which
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: live in um California, Oregon, Washington. You could have been
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: the BC and they switched them to sydical black tails.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: They're like they're a different creature. Uh. I mean they
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: resemble one another, but you know, they have some morphological differences,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: some behavioral differences. Um. And we filmed hunting them in
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: basically the summer, so August early September, AH when they
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: tend to be found a pie. They kind of have
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: a reddish coat. They're pretty easy to find, and then
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: these things have a way of vanishing down into the
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: into the coastal rainforest. And we filmed a hunt years
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: ago where we tried to hit the rut um but
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: went earlier just because it's scheduling problems and had a
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: really tough hunt, and and I came away blaming it
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: on timing. Oh man, we were two weeks early, right,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: But turns out that wasn't as tough as what we
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: had now. And then I picked if you talk to
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: like really good blacktail hunters, Um, there is adamant as
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: our white tail deer hunters in the Midwest say about
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: like first week in November, Like, if you're gonna hunt
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: any week first week in November, it could vary because whatever,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: but that's like if you're gonna like go buy calendar
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: dates a year in advance, first week in Novembers when
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: you want to be there. But uh, there is it's substantiated.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: There's some lower deer numbers right now, Samantha. You were
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: informed of this by the Tongas National Forest, right they
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: warned you some low deer numbers. Um. You get all
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: kinds of opinions about it. It It seems that that one
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: of the more popular opinions about it is, uh, wolves,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: too many wolves, not many deer round and even places
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: like where I've just just in my knockings around over
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: the years, places where I know there to be trails
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: that are generally like pretty beat down trails struck me
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: as being moss see not beat down, and it was
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: just it seemed like just low amounts of sign um
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: and and then precipitation. But we had like the great opportunity,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: um to wander around in in virgin old growth coastal rainforest,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: which is something what do you think of just I
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: mean that that whole kind of dripping mossy seen there,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: which isn't totally foreign to you because you grew up
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: in in the Northwest. Yeah, I think we talked a
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: little bit about it because it was it was stationed
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: out of Fort Lewis and we did a lot of
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: training in Washington State, so it reminded me of you know,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: those years. Uh. But it's uh, it's it's beautiful when
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: when you're looking at it, uh and you're experiencing it,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: and I think there's a combination of things there which
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: you know, to go out and experience the elements the
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: way they are ah in this this is you know,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: it's cold and it's wet and it's green and everything's what.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: But to become part of that environment where you get
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: to just experience everything about it, um, you know, I
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: I truly love those opportunities. I don't think that if
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: you're if you're not enjoying the environment because of the moisture,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: you're you're not enjoying the entire immersive experience for a
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: lack of a better definition. So it's hard to get into, um,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: you know, lamenting about what you're doing when you're in
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: such a wonderful, beautiful place where everything about it is
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: giving you this this experience that you should be you know,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: soaking up for a lack of a better term, like
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: a sponge and instead of wishing it were otherwise, Oh,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: I didn't wish for a second it would be otherwise.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: That's that that would be. There are times I get
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: guilty that a little bit now and then we're just
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: wishing it wasn't raining. Oh I do, I do? But
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: then I instantly catch myself. I'm like, well, that would
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: take away from the experience because the funny thing is
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: about as I'm wishing is not raining. How do I
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: always describe it to people. It's a coastal rainforest, right, yeah,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: it's like temperate rainforest. It's beautiful. It's beautiful, and then
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: you go there in the rains, I'm like, damn, we're good.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: I was wishing it was otherwise were the rain. I
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: was wishing that you guys had seen more dear. Yeah, um, yeah,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know even that. Nope, I still dear. I
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: think that made the story better. Yeah, eventually because a
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: little it was looking like, you know, we we kept
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: at it, I mean, how to sell people. So I
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: was we hunted four full days dark to dark. Um,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: I saw two dos and then and that's moving, NonStop moving, calling, moving,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: calling like like hunting, hunting up high down, whoa in between?
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: It was tough man. Um, you spent a much time
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: in the military. Uh and and I always like, maybe
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: it's not true, but I always imagine the military that
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: the people who excelled in the military have like, um,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: developed like a level of discipline that I don't have,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: mental mental discipline that I don't have, but I noticed
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: that you would. It just be like against your upbringing
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: to have complained or brought up that we weren't seeing things. Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: you just do not something you're gonna do. I started
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: after a few days, I'm like, I don't think he's
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: gonna do that. I'm glad he's not gonna do it.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: And I don't think he's going to do that. No, No,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: it goes back to the whole thing like this is
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: a you know, this is an incredible opportunity, right, And
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: I was explaining this, I think it was yesterday or
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: something like that, like, you know, you're you're part of
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: American history at this point, you and the brand and
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: the people that you bring in, You're part of American
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: outdoors and history. So for me just to sit out
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: here and get the opportunity to go out and hunt
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: with you, I would be foolish if not, like really
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: remiss to to you know, cherish this opportunity and say, man,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: I'm getting I get to hunt with Steve, like how
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: many other people in America? Like going back to that
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: same point as making want to do that, if not internationally,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: So you know, I get to watch you in your
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: environment as an American you know, outdoor icon, and then
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: get to share several days with you in this you know,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: incredible place where regardless of how much it rained or
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: you know, if you're cold or whatever, it might be
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Like that's part of it. Like I get to you know,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: live those five days Like what a what a what
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: an incredible gift? And so if I would have been
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: like dude, we're not seeing a lot of deer. That's
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: not why I'm here. I'm not here. Yeah, no ship.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: And it's like, oh you wish you were seeing more. Yeah,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: like master the obvious, you've been like, yeah, no ship,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: you're not seeing any deer. So it's you know, it
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: is it's it's hunt. It's it's that it's hunting. And
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: you know, I've had a lot of really cool life
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: experiences that you know, and this, this will live up
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: there with those those experiences, you know. So for me,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: it was just like, yeah, hey, we're hunting. This is great,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: so dark dark great, extend the daylight, Let's walk a
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: little bit more, let's have you know, I have a
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: little bit more time in the field, because it wouldn't
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: be the same if it wasn't really respected. So you know,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: that's one thing that is you know, truly thankful for.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: And I thank you guys for really inviting me because
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: it was incredible time. And I really can't thank you
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: enough for for for allowing me that opportunity because it's incredible.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: You know, I can sit here and say that the
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: more I think about it, I um, if you don't
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: count a dead one, I never did see a buck. No,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: we were set up calling and Dirt said he saw
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: the flick of a tailway stopped. Yeah, And I could
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: tell by his like, and then attention was focused in
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: the way that I couldn't see, and I could. It's
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: funny because all I could, I can just like see
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: you you Evan, and I could read by your like
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: whatever posture I could read you seeing it. I could
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: read you um knowing that there would soon potentially be
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: a shot opportunity. I could see through your posture the
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: shot opportunity present itself. And I never saw the deer
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: until he walked up on it. But it's like it
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: was like I was watching it just by watching, sort
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: of like the muscle tension or something in like I'm like,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: that is the sort of physical tightening of a man
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: who just saw dear. I'll go back to something, which is,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: like you said, there's like a level of discipline right
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: where you're talking about, like level of discipline that you
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: know some guys in the military get if they're you know,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: they're professional soldiers. I think you know, any any person
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: that comes to that, I would say fractions of a
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: percentile within their profession. It takes a significant amount of discipline.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: It just does. And you know, seeing you out there
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: and then seeing you like I've been around a ton
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: of guys that are masters of their profession and you
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: can see it. You're you're part of that. Like really
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: small fraction of people have a ton of discipline. So
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: I think that that's that was one thing I was.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: I was It was very um in awe of I
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: was like just looking at how you're working the entire
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: scenarios throughout those days of hunting and then looking at
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: you and saying, oh yeah, Like I thought about it
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: multiple times. It's like, if Steve was in the Army,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: he would have been an adult force guy. Like, if
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: he was in the arm he would have been Delta
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: Delta Force. Yeah, Darren would have been with me dragging
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: our knuckles. He would have been a machine gunner. It's
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: just like Dirty Booth in the Conversar. Black Market gets
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: so laser focused and the pursuit of what you're going for.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: It was it was really Ah, it's not it doesn't
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: pay the right respect to the term, but it is
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: not only interesting, but man, it gave me a whole
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: new level of kind of what you do as a profession.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: It does like it gives me an entirely, entirely different perspective.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: Thank you, man, Touch on real quick before you wrap up,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: touch on shrimping. Those things are delicious. They're incredibly delicious. Um.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: The thevarience of going out on the water, because I
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: haven't been out on on the water ton. I've spent
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: a little bit of time in the ocean. Uh, but
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: going out, we spent a lot of time on rivers,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of time on rivers and ocean. Yeah, you know,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: going out and and you know, experiencing the ocean with
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: you understand that you have much more confidence in the
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: boat and your skills than I do. Uh what confidence
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: in your boat and your skills? It's a joke, falls
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: it's me saying I don't. He has a lot of
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: confidence everybody else in that big water. Uh. Now I
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: think it's Uh, it's worked too. I can imagine, you know,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: dumping those pots, and then I kept thinking about the
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: manual process of dragging those things up after you dumped them,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: because you're talking about those guys as old shrimpers pulling
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: those pots up without that assist man the hand pull
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: smaller ones, and it was you know, it's it's like recreational,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: but it gives you sort of a glimpse. It gives
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: you a glimpse into the commercial life. You get worn
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: out trying to coil most Yeah, it's like my arms
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: got tired just trying to throw the rope into a
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: perfect circle. You took to that fast though. Just filming
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: you guys the shrimp and when you guys were in
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: action together, it was like after the first pot pulling,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: it was like we're like Bubba Gump. Yeah, all right,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Well that's what I like about him because he's like, oh,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: that's how you do it. He just explains it and
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: then he expects you to know. It's like you've been
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: doing it for ten years. You guys around here, through
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: this and around that, and then you just hit the switch.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: You get okay, we're going you know what do you say?
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: I don't even know are we in the woods, are
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: we on the water? I don't even know where the
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: hell we're at right now. And uh know that that
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: tire process was so so cool, um, you know, the
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: shrimping itself and be able to rip those things apart.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: That's probably one of the most satisfying things outside of
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: like you know, pushing in bubble wrap, like tearing shrimp
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: heads apart. It's almost it's almost as cool as pop bubble.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: Seth and I were talking about It's like, man, I
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: could do this for a couple of hours before I
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: get sick of it, cause you're the playing game like
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: I want to get all of it, and then you're
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: thinking about how delicious those things are. I don't care
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: how hard it is to lift that. It's called yeah,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: it's called popping heads. Yeah. Uh, you know, I want
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: to tell people about the thing that that we did
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: for cooking that I thought was cool and I had
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: different I've honestly never seen it. I don't know that's
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: how it worked. But you had what do you call
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: the beans? Green? Yeah? They're green. Yeah, so they're green beans,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: green coffee beans. Yeah, from Ethiopia and over like a
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: we we have a boiler we use outside the boil
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like a people use some deep fried turkeys.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: And we used to boil crabs um big propane fired
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: burner the river blaster and uh, it took the beans
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: which looked like they're like khaki colored. I don't know,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: can you wouldn't look at it? You look at and
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: think you're looking at it like a like a like
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: a yeah, like you think you're looking at a lentil,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: but it's a coffee bean. And then in a cast
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: iron pan over that outdoor burner, slowly and methodically over
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: how many minutes you think it takes. That one took
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: us a while. It took us twenty five minutes, give
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: or take which the classic cast there and skillet turned
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: him into like those glossy dark coffee beans, man, not
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: turned them into but roast rolls them over fire and
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: then um, immediately and all you said it like ideally
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: let him sit a few days. We didn't do that.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: We didn't do it. Immediately ground them and then made
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: like a coffee rube. That was just some brown sugar, salt, coffee, pepper, pepper. Yeah,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: and uh, I eat a lot of you know, like
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: every time taking Harry in the planet sells some kind
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: of coffee rub right, you run into it. But man,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: that tasted like coffee. Yeah, that was a good coffee rub.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: I would suggest people to do that. Get like really
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: like make it from scratchy and not with your old
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: ground up ship you got in the cupboard. Well you
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: gotta make it. If I have one suggestion for guys
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: making coffee rubs out there, which I've made several, is
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: you get a light hole being coffee and you grind it.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: You got to use what the reason I say a
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: light roasted coffee is because whatever you're gonna put it in,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: whether it's a pan or oven or wherever you're gonna go,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: it's gonna it will cook the coffee. More So, if
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: it's already a really dark French rusted coffee or something
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: like that and it's already been ground, you're not getting
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: the additional layers of taste that you would from a
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: lighter coffee that you have to grind and then put
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: in to your coffee rub that also continues to roast
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: on the meat because you wanted to have a little
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: bit of time on the meat while it's roasting and
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: not burning it into char. That makes sense. And if
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: you're already on the cusp of burnt, yeah, it just
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: turns more burnt. And that's why I think a lot
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: of people don't use a lot of coffee in their
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: coffee rubs because they haven't been able to put enough
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: coffee in there where it doesn't turn into just really burnt,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: acidic char It just doesn't taste very good. Most of
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: the coffee rubs that use a lot of coffee, they
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: don't appeal to me. But if I use a really
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: lightly roasted coffee, freshly grinded before I put it in
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: the rub, that's when it always gets better because you
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: can taste your point. You can taste the coffee in
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: the rub. It was, it was, It was nice, like
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: tasted coffee in a very nice way. On dear tenor one. Oh,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: then there's one last hot coffee tip. I want you
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: to give people. Uh, when someone asked if you want light,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: medium or dark, thought they were giving you escalating caffeine levels.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: That's not true. Explain that it's a myth. So raise
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: your hand if you in this room, raise your hand.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: If you thought like I did, until when you know
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: about caffeine levels, that light, medium, dark was like increasing caffeineness. No,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: I thought it was all the same caffeine. I just thought,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: like a dark roast is like your real like bitter
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: strong coffee. They had anything to do how much caffeine
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: was in there. I didn't think it was a measurement
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: of caffeine. I assumed that like, the darker it got,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: the more of it was in there, the more of everything,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: And that's not it's not true. So you're your lightest
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: coffee and there's some um wait, there's a there's a
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: white coffee, which is it's barely roasted, and that has
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: the most caffeine program and then if you go light, medium, dark,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: it has the most caffeine. If you're in a light
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: coffee versus a dark coffee, because as you roast the coffee,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: you're burning it, so you have less of the intact
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: coffee bean. So you're deconstructing the caffeine as you're burning it,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: and you're making smoke and carbon. Yeah yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: So if you want more caffeine, you need to have
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: a lighter coffee. Uh. And it's interesting because a lot
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: of people they think that, they're like, I want a
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: dark roasted coffee with lots I want I want something
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: really strong. Well, it's a strong flavor, but it doesn't
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: have as much caffeine. Um. I drink really like coffees,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: not because I like the caffeine. It's because I like
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: to taste the coffee itself and not just burnt. Once
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: one thing that I have noticed is when I go
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: to my normal coffee spot, I usually get a dark
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: roast from that, and then almost every little cafe that
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: I go to, you know, some mom and pops, greasy
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: spoon cafe, it always seems like a lighter roast coffee
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: at these places because people don't like them super dark.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: And it seems like I always get way more jittery
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: and like feel more caffeineated at these mom and pop stores.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: And it's probably because you're drinking more cups. No, well,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: it could be two things. Because there's guy that owns
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: the coffee company. There's two, there's two. Well, I'll I'll
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: be like, well, I don't know if I was just
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: saying no, because I don't know if I'll tell you
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: the reason. So here's the reason why is less expensive
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: coffee is a Robusta. It's it's a different strain. There's
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: two main strains, Robusta and Arabica. So if you look
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: at the two main branches, Arabica has we'll call it
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: less caffeine than the Robusta, but the Arabica is more expensive.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: So the Robusta hit me again. I want to make
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: sure I remember, so you have two main streams of coffee,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: Arabica and Robusta. Robusta is less expensive, but it has
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: more caffeine. It's a smaller bean, it's less expensive, and
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: it has more caffeine. Arabica is typically more expensive and
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: has less caffeine. But Arabica you can get better tastes
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: out of it, so you can increase the profile, so
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: you're better. Coffee shops are typically going to serve in Arabica.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: Your diners are gonna typically serve a Robica or a Robusta,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: And so that's why you feel more jittery, is because
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: they're using a different caffeine or a different bean. M
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  Speaker 1: When you get that, I think that's pretty cool because
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  Speaker 1: I always wonder why that's the reason, because you can
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  Speaker 1: buy it in bulk, and a lot of the less
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  Speaker 1: expensive coffees that are out there, you're gonna buy them
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  Speaker 1: in like five pounds bags, and a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: diners are going to go for the less expensive option
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  Speaker 1: through a food vendor, and you know that's what they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna use. And they're and they're not using proper water
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  Speaker 1: to coffee ratios either, which is totally different conversation. But sure,
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  Speaker 1: we don't need it. We just lost half your podcast
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  Speaker 1: after after Chester does the check at book, yeah, which
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  Speaker 1: we still haven't. Okay, he's gotta go through all the channels.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna get his project green lit. Yep, we have
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  Speaker 1: green lit. Well, let's say he gets a green lit. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna do that. He's gonna go on and have
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  Speaker 1: all the other adventures in life, and then he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: open a place called Chester's Egg Factory, and it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a breakfast coffee place. He's gonna serve robust. Of course.
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  Speaker 1: Then you guys will show up more because he gave you. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: we got those free totals. Don't be telling people about
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  Speaker 1: because people. I don't want people breaking into my house
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  Speaker 1: and take my free toe a man. Oh yeah, that's
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: a lifetime token. Yeah, it's lifetime. I gotta say to
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  Speaker 1: When the rub you made was when we had coffee
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  Speaker 1: this morning wrapping up, there was an aha moment of
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: how good that was. It's really good, right, just because
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: it was so freshly roasted. And then one more thing, yep,
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  Speaker 1: something special about the blacktail. Dear place to see relic
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  Speaker 1: with that, Ladies and gentlemen join us next time on
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  Speaker 1: the Meting Podcast. Thanks everybody,