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What Could Have Been - Chicago Bulls Dynasty of 1990's · Sports Exchange

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  Speaker 1: Good evening. Everybody, welcome to another ditch of little sports.
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  Speaker 1: E jan great first show, the for No Limits can.
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  Speaker 1: He wants you to give everybody review what we did
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  Speaker 1: in the first hour.
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  Speaker 2: We debuted the first of our series on CTE with
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  Speaker 2: a former US Olympic Bob Slutter, and he was talking
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  Speaker 2: about hyperbaric Chamber CTE.
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  Speaker 3: Lots of good stuff to come first of the series,
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  Speaker 3: so that was what we started with previous.
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  Speaker 1: So here we are Sports Exchange or please welcome Tom
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  Speaker 1: Shanna and he'll be on here a couple of times
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  Speaker 1: a month. He likes to talk about basketball, college in particular,
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  Speaker 1: as well as pro and college football, so glad to
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  Speaker 1: have Shanny on here as well. He'll obviously have his
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  Speaker 1: own segment at the end, just like fund the Fun
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  Speaker 1: it called the Shanahan Report for everybody out there. When
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  Speaker 1: he talks about college football, he's the one individual that
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  Speaker 1: knows an awful lot more about this game than more
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  Speaker 1: than I'll ever know. So if that said, let's get
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  Speaker 1: this thing going. The Detroit Tigers defeated in the Santel
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  Speaker 1: Mariners nine to three today to force the game five out.
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  Speaker 1: West Mauraders actually left all star Brian woo off the
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  Speaker 1: Alds roster due to a peck injury. Move forward with
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  Speaker 1: George Kirby and Lewis Castillo. So, George, give me a
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  Speaker 1: report about what you saw at least yesterday and then
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  Speaker 1: what you probably watched today from Comerica Park.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, thank these guys. It's a pleasure to be out there.
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  Speaker 4: Yesterday it was a terrible situation with the rain and
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  Speaker 4: waiting and waiting. I felt sorry, but that's just part
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  Speaker 4: of baseball in the autumn. You know, the Angela was
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  Speaker 4: over two hours in Detroit. But Tigers were really outclassed.
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  Speaker 4: They were out manned last night. They did not play
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  Speaker 4: a good game by any stretch. The hitters were flailing
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  Speaker 4: at pitchers, a lot of strikeouts. The Tigers have had
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  Speaker 4: a difficult time in the last month or so that
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  Speaker 4: most of you know in regards to run production. The
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  Speaker 4: bullpen has been a little suspect. I mean, they're better
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  Speaker 4: than average, but they're not a great bullpen. But last
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  Speaker 4: night Seattle was kicking out on all heels. Man, they
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  Speaker 4: were really banging that ball, and I'll tell you what,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Tigers had nothing to match it. Yeah, they
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  Speaker 4: showed up in the ninth inning Detroit and got a
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  Speaker 4: couple of runs there, but that was about all they did.
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  Speaker 4: And then of course today, okay, so they had to
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  Speaker 4: come back right away. In fact, it started at three
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  Speaker 4: litt left of three o'clock Eastern time, as you guys know.
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  Speaker 4: And then they came out today and they didn't really
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  Speaker 4: look too good. I mean, the first three or four innings,
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  Speaker 4: the Tigers again had no run productions, were getting angry.
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  Speaker 4: There were some booze that were heard today and quite
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  Speaker 4: a few last night. But the fact of the matter
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  Speaker 4: was is that something clicks, something woke this team up.
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  Speaker 4: You talk about that that that sleeping giant. Well today
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  Speaker 4: you know, uh three I'm sorry, three runs in the
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  Speaker 4: fifth and then another fourth spot in the sixth, and
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  Speaker 4: so the Tigers grabbed that lead, uh seven to two,
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  Speaker 4: seven to three at that time, and the hitting came alive.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, guys like Torres and and and Riley Green
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  Speaker 4: and and uh Biaz had another great game today batting wise,
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  Speaker 4: and they got good pitching. So they put it all together.
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  Speaker 4: So the so the bottom line is a nine three
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  Speaker 4: victory for Detroit and now they're going to go to
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  Speaker 4: a game five winner take all Friday. I'm sorry they
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  Speaker 4: skip a day. I'm sorry. Uh yeah, it'll be It'll.
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  Speaker 5: Be a job Thursday, George Friday.
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  Speaker 4: It is Friday. Thank you, Thank you Scott.
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  Speaker 5: For the I know, I know, I know. You don't
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  Speaker 5: leave Michigan offense.
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  Speaker 1: You don't worry about jet black anyways, but days ago
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  Speaker 1: the West you generally have to do it. So well,
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  Speaker 1: that's that, that's where Tigers report fucking by the southward
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  Speaker 1: of tribute.
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  Speaker 5: So let's get to the agenda.
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  Speaker 1: Tonight shows what could have been the Chicago Bulls dynasty
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  Speaker 1: of the nineteen nineties.
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  Speaker 5: We're going to get to that in the moment. But anyways, well.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about what took place recently with Duke men's basketball.
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  Speaker 1: Tommy that they've agreed to a new six year deal
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  Speaker 1: with men's basketball coach John Shire. They give him two
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  Speaker 1: additional years through the twenty thirty thirty one season.
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  Speaker 5: What are your thoughts about Duke royding mister Shire.
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  Speaker 6: What's amazing about Shire is he's picked up right where
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  Speaker 6: coach k left off. There's been no no drop off
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  Speaker 6: in the recruiting. They're still getting the number one and
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  Speaker 6: number two top recruits in the country. And you know,
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  Speaker 6: a lot of times you see players shy away when
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  Speaker 6: the legend leaves, and that's just not happened to Duke.
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  Speaker 6: Shire had been on the bench for a long time
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  Speaker 6: as an assistant coach, and he's made that transition. He
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  Speaker 6: was actually involved with a lot of the recruits that
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  Speaker 6: came in the previous years. So whatever connection you would
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  Speaker 6: have thought would have been lost without coach K's magnet, magnetic.
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  Speaker 7: Name, there's nothing to it.
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  Speaker 6: Shire has just picked up right where Coach k left
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  Speaker 6: off with as many, if not more, top recruits.
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  Speaker 5: Cady, what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 1: The contract that Shire and get continuity is what they want.
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  Speaker 1: They haven't and have a first class coach. We were
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  Speaker 1: at the de campus. That was pretty heat going over
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  Speaker 1: to their facilities Canon Door Stadium.
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  Speaker 3: I think, go ahead, yeah, I mean they're smart to
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  Speaker 3: do that. He's been, you know, there for a while.
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  Speaker 3: He also now created a new opportunity within the men's
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  Speaker 3: basketball program that they just announced. I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: you knew this, Scott, but NBA champion and former Blue
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  Speaker 3: Devil stand out Jason Tatum has been named to first
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  Speaker 3: of its kind responsibility as chief basketball Officer. He will
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  Speaker 3: volunteer his time as a special advisor to Shire and
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  Speaker 3: the Duke program, bringing championship level insight and professional basketball
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  Speaker 3: experience to player development, leadership, and life as an elite athlete.
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  Speaker 3: I think that is a superb move by him because
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  Speaker 3: I think that'll help him bring in more talent to
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  Speaker 3: the school if they're gonna have an NBA player to
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  Speaker 3: be able to help mold some of these college players
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  Speaker 3: and help them. So good great moves by him and
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  Speaker 3: the college for securing.
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  Speaker 5: Him great information by.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's kind of like that Pittsburgh Steelers situation where
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  Speaker 8: they've only had so many coaches because they get it
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  Speaker 8: right and they understand culture. You know, this is this
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  Speaker 8: is a situation where this coach was hand picked by
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  Speaker 8: by coach k This guy, you know uh, coach Duke.
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  Speaker 8: He understands culture, understands Duke culture, and obviously he was
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  Speaker 8: a great pick by coach k Uh Coach k Groometon.
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  Speaker 8: And this is one of those rare situations where you know,
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  Speaker 8: the the the master, uh, the the the the the
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  Speaker 8: guy who's the uh, they're the master ultimately is able
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  Speaker 8: to pick his pupil and his successor, and it was
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  Speaker 8: a great pick. The results show and Duke has not
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  Speaker 8: skipped the beat. This program, you know, is rolling like
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  Speaker 8: the Green Bay Packers quarterbacks for the last thirty years.
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  Speaker 8: You know, they just don't miss a beat. They know
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  Speaker 8: how to pick him. And you know, I love I like,
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  Speaker 8: I'm a Duke guy myself. I like Duke basketball, so
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  Speaker 8: I'm happy about it as his Duke basketball nation.
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  Speaker 9: Jacob, well remember this big deal. And I mean I
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  Speaker 9: was with you Martin by the way, girl up, we
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  Speaker 9: didn't have any's. We have a cable TV, so it's
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  Speaker 9: Duke of North Carolina. So I watched both. I liked both,
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  Speaker 9: but I liked Duke better Cameron Indoor, you know. But
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  Speaker 9: the but the big thing you got to remember about
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  Speaker 9: coaches is if they get older. Shire's probably been doing
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  Speaker 9: all of the recruiting, all all that kind of work
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  Speaker 9: for so many years, like he was the coach anymore.
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  Speaker 9: You get you get older, you just have somebody you
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  Speaker 9: have delegation at this point. But one of the things
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  Speaker 9: that you see also in Good Job. You brought that
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  Speaker 9: up with Jason Tatum Candy. That is the thing I
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  Speaker 9: was reading up on that. That's awesome. One thing to
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  Speaker 9: realize is there is a cautionary tale. And I'm going
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  Speaker 9: back to the women's side of the Tennessee women's basketball
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  Speaker 9: mind you there they're not terrible, but when someone has
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  Speaker 9: been gone, they've just never been the same. So that's
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  Speaker 9: a cautionary tale that you get. Now you with Duke,
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  Speaker 9: you didn't want that situation. The thing is they've come,
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  Speaker 9: they had somebody. He picked somebody right inside of Duke
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  Speaker 9: who played for Duke that Meshryszewski did. The biggest thing
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  Speaker 9: to see is the fact that you're going to see that.
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  Speaker 9: I mean when you're going to see the next few
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  Speaker 9: years and you're probably going to see a couple of
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  Speaker 9: national titles just the same that it's like he never left.
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  Speaker 4: Jacob George, well, yeah, and I could speak from a
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  Speaker 4: little bit of experience with the situation which Scott and
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  Speaker 4: I of course live with here in Michigan with Heathcote
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  Speaker 4: and Iso, but I look at the Shire situation very similar.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, you know, replacing a legend is never easy,
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  Speaker 4: and certainly Mike Kay has done a fantastic job as
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  Speaker 4: we know at Duke and also at the Olympics and everywhere.
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  Speaker 4: He's been just an incredible, credible record that man has
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  Speaker 4: and he is in the Polish Sports Hall of Fame
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  Speaker 4: that I'm involved in. But John Shire, he's not shying
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  Speaker 4: away from anything. No, this his schedule has voted again.
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  Speaker 4: He's got the roster obviously is going to have a
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  Speaker 4: different look. We all know that there's that revolving door.
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  Speaker 4: Because of that program being so successful, we're seeing departure,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Cooper Flag the most recent and you know,
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  Speaker 4: you know that doors to the NBA. That's all because
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  Speaker 4: it's such a great program, and you know what, it's
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  Speaker 4: not gonna change because Shire's got his good hand on it.
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  Speaker 4: And it was that Candy just explained to us too
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  Speaker 4: about the the return of Tatum. I mean, this is
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  Speaker 4: going to be another good year I look forward from
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  Speaker 4: from Shire and Douke. But yeah, he's not shying away
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  Speaker 4: from any of that so called pressure that that there
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  Speaker 4: was by at least a lot of the media and
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  Speaker 4: fans taken over for a legend.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, George, great segue to Cooper Flag, because you know what,
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  Speaker 1: when he was coming out, the projected contract was a
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  Speaker 1: four years at sixty two million.
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  Speaker 5: Candy, once you.
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  Speaker 1: Actually go ahead and get the actual contract, I know
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  Speaker 1: was projected when he was coming out a great segue, George,
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  Speaker 1: because well, that's why I wanted to bring in Shire
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  Speaker 1: because it was going to lead to the obvious Cooper
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  Speaker 1: Flag thing. Candy, while she goes ahead and gets that
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  Speaker 1: re search done. What are your thoughts about Jacob Cooper
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  Speaker 1: Flagg big a product of john Shire and talk about
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  Speaker 1: Cooper Flagg, your observations on him as a player.
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  Speaker 5: This guy is pretty good.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, you know. The the big thing about with Cooper
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  Speaker 9: Flag was the fact that when I saw him, I
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  Speaker 9: wanted him to I wanted to say lead that. I
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  Speaker 9: knew it wasn't gonna hap because it's the NBA and
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  Speaker 9: it's the pay and but I was having hope against
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  Speaker 9: hope for Niel to keep him there because I wanted
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  Speaker 9: to see him see if he could win a national
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  Speaker 9: title for Duke. He was, he is that good. But
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  Speaker 9: one thing that I'm when we worried about and I
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  Speaker 9: saw him in a couple of the games in the tournament.
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  Speaker 9: Mind you that mind you, it's it's in the college
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  Speaker 9: and pros. He's going to mature as a player. One
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  Speaker 9: of the things I saw in a couple of those
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  Speaker 9: games he just felt off. It was a proosent pressure,
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  Speaker 9: was it the day. Were their good defenses?
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  Speaker 8: What is it?
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  Speaker 9: That's one thing I always worried about. Now it makes
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  Speaker 9: you wonder about the NBA. It's like, will he have
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  Speaker 9: certain struggles and will they bring up the fans and
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  Speaker 9: all of the media and theveryboy else bring up the
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  Speaker 9: contract and it's like, it's of course he's a rookie
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  Speaker 9: and he's too young, but that will stop anybody.
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  Speaker 3: So Scott, the answer is number one overall pick in
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  Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five NBA Draft. Flags rookie contract will
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  Speaker 3: be a four year, sixty two point seven million dollar deal.
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  Speaker 3: If he meets the criteria to earn a Supermax. At
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  Speaker 3: the end of that contract, Flag can receive a five
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  Speaker 3: year contract three hundred and fifty nine million dollar deal
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  Speaker 3: for his second contract, So sixty two point seven for
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  Speaker 3: four years.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you, Kendy.
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  Speaker 1: Well, while you're talking about what you're talking about Cooper
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  Speaker 1: Flagg being with the Mavericks.
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  Speaker 5: I think obviously the guy didn't have a heck of
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  Speaker 5: a year. Anyways.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the one thing that NBA does a little
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  Speaker 3: differently is they have the draft the lottery thing, so
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  Speaker 3: it's not necessarily the worst team and he's going to
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  Speaker 3: kind of like the NFL, where you know you're going
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  Speaker 3: to a really bad TA. Kudos to him, Cooper Flag.
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  Speaker 3: I think he'll he'll definitely be an impact player and
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  Speaker 3: be an impact player quickly.
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  Speaker 5: Mey.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, the thing about Cooper Flag is getting back to
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  Speaker 6: what we were talking about Shire doing the recruiting. He
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  Speaker 6: was the one who recruited Cooper Flag. And in fact,
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  Speaker 6: Coach K's last year on the bench, he made a
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  Speaker 6: point of not doing any other recruiting. He didn't want
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  Speaker 6: to recruit kids and to not be their coach the
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  Speaker 6: next year. So that was all part of his plan
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  Speaker 6: his transition, planned that he was going to coach one
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  Speaker 6: last year and he wanted his successor to be on
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  Speaker 6: the bench next to him. And there was actually three
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  Speaker 6: four or five guys that are head coaches from Duke
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  Speaker 6: that under Coach K's tree that could have been candidates
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  Speaker 6: and had been assistant coaches, and I think it was
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  Speaker 6: Tommy Amaker.
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  Speaker 7: Tommy Amaker the one at Harvard or is he at
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  Speaker 7: Central Florida.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Dawkins is a Central Florida Almaker was very interested
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  Speaker 6: in the job, but he wasn't going to give up
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  Speaker 6: his Harvard job to be an assistant coach at Duke
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  Speaker 6: for that one last year and that's what Coach K
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  Speaker 6: wanted out of his succession plan. And he was very
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  Speaker 6: clear on this. Didn't really a lot of people didn't
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  Speaker 6: really understand it. They thought that he was too minutolitive
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  Speaker 6: picking Shire about. Coach K is a West Point grad,
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  Speaker 6: did his five year stint in the army and then
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  Speaker 6: coached an army and he was very clear on this
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  Speaker 6: when he stepped down that he wanted a succession plan
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  Speaker 6: similar to the army. When the Army names the new
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  Speaker 6: general to be the head of a base, he doesn't
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  Speaker 6: come in one day and take over. There's a transition
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  Speaker 6: period where the former boss and the new boss are
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  Speaker 6: working together. And that's what Coach K wanted. With Shire
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  Speaker 6: on the bench and is his successor. Shire was already
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  Speaker 6: entrenched to the recruiting and uh, we're seeing, Uh it's
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  Speaker 6: worked out exactly the way Coach K had hoped.
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  Speaker 5: So who hasn't.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, So, I mean, great, great points Tom. Again, that
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  Speaker 8: speaks back to culture, you know, and leadership and being
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  Speaker 8: strategic and having a plan and putting ego aside. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: just look about look at the leadership of a coach
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  Speaker 8: k and and and the Duke administration versus you know
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  Speaker 8: how Jerry Drones runs his organization and the chaos and
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  Speaker 8: the circus and the ego. I'm serious though, you know,
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  Speaker 8: and you wonder why he hasn't been successful at least
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  Speaker 8: without Jimmy Johnson. But you know, coach k epitomizes you know,
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  Speaker 8: class and what it is to be a real leader.
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  Speaker 8: And and you see that and how they went about
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  Speaker 8: getting the next coach in there. The crazy thing for
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  Speaker 8: Cooper Flag and what what you hate for him is.
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  Speaker 10: He took a pay cut going to the NBA. Yeah,
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  Speaker 10: he made twenty eight million dollars in his first year
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  Speaker 10: at Duke from two deals. And you know, based on
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  Speaker 10: the numbers, can he's saying, what's he making in NBA
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  Speaker 10: twenty two, twenty three, twenty four million. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 10: that's chump change, but just think about we live in
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  Speaker 10: a world where a kid who's making over twenty million
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  Speaker 10: dollars in pro sports is taking a pay cut from
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  Speaker 10: what he made in college.
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  Speaker 8: You know, again, capitalism has no mercy. The players benefit
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  Speaker 8: greatly and you know twenty eight meal as a freshman.
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  Speaker 9: Wow, Oh as much as you got Martin.
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  Speaker 8: We don't talk about that. You know this, you know,
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  Speaker 8: it's a different day. I don't know what you're talking about, Jacob.
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  Speaker 4: And I didn't contribute yet, Scott, but I was, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I just wanted to add, you know, this guy, there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of pressure on him. But he did very
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  Speaker 4: well in his first game down there for the exhibition season.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, what can you say. He was AP Player
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  Speaker 4: of the Year and all the Accoloids, the Wooden Award,
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  Speaker 4: that Doctor j Award, he won everything. And he is
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  Speaker 4: a good player, and no question about that. A lot
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  Speaker 4: of pressure on him, but he's got to remember that
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  Speaker 4: it takes time too. And despite all the money that
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  Speaker 4: he's making, Cooper Flag is going to be going through
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  Speaker 4: some growing pains as a rookie in the NBA. The
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  Speaker 4: kid's only eighteen. I think he turns nineteen in December,
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  Speaker 4: so he's got a lot of moxie, a lot of
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  Speaker 4: determination and obviously great pedigree. Like you guys said from
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  Speaker 4: Duke and from and Mixtrotest and his successor right.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody contributed, Yeah, a lot of line. Cooper Fledge the
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  Speaker 1: heck of a player. Dallas members are looking to end
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  Speaker 1: up getting him talk about getting lucky in the lottery
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  Speaker 1: at the right time. They did definitely get them. Everybody
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  Speaker 1: thought that when who was it not? Oh gosh, I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to.
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  Speaker 5: Blank got traded to the Lakers. Help me out. I'm
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  Speaker 5: drawing a plank.
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  Speaker 1: Shouldn't the guy's overweight all the time and he blues
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  Speaker 1: out there?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah that's it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all time.
• 18:25
  Speaker 9: It's usually Zion.
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that's okay.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the reality is they were fortunate that they
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: ended up getting it right the number one pick, because
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: now they have a good building black when Kyrie Irving
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: gets healthy, this team could.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: Be dangerous that they have there.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: And Anthony Davis is right, the Dallas Mavericks will better
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: than most people think. They got new ownership Mark Cubans
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: out of there. But nonetheless the teams are forces to
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: be reckoned with us Luka Doncas all right, there you go, thanks,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: all right, we'll continue on the basketball team. The title
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Love the Show is what could have been Chicago Bulls
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: dynasty of the nineteen nineties. While Tommy, if anybody can
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: be connected with this and know this, well, it's you.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: With Michael Jordan who took a shot at Lebron James
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: when disgusting how many titles that he would have had
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: in Chicago. Is the nineteen ninety eight team that was
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: never broken up, we could have won seven, eight, nine.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Of course he's being sarcastic because the Lebron thing he
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: obviously knows and letting him know who the real king
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: of the Hill is. So Lebron James, I don't. I'll
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: get laughed at this. I wouldn't put him in my
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: top five or ten players when you look at that
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: history of the NBA, I wouldn't.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: That's just me.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: But Michael Jordan, no problem. I'll put in there easily
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: at the top. What are your thoughts about this when
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: you look at Jordan had six, but he could have
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: had nine or ten easily if it wasn't broken up.
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: Tommy, I guess so.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: Well, it had six.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: I just always thought there was nobody that really challenged
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: the uh, the Bulls in those days after the Lakers
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: dynasty faded. There's just a lull with other teams, and
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: they really didn't have to beat a lot of great teams.
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: I don't know, but they would they have beaten the
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: Rockets with a team in ninety four if if if
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: one of the Jordan hadn't retired to baseball.
• 20:36
  Speaker 8: I don't know one of them.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's for see. All right, So let me ask
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: you this, Tommy m Jay, Lebron? Who you got?
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: I mean, wasn't a choice?
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: That was the other thing that I holds me back
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: on the Bulls because I always have thought Pippen was overrated.
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: He wouldn't have been as good without Jordan, and he
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: proved that he was no longer playing with Jordan.
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: He went to other teams. But anyways, Jordan or Lebron James,
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: is that what you said?
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, Jordan, Okay, Candy.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Jordan all day long?
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Do you think he was online when he was taking
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: his shots at Lebron? Nowadays everybody's taking shots of Lebron.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I just figured I'd pulled this one in my pocket
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: and bring it to the forefront. If we have a
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: lot of North Carolina talking this show.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: I think the nineties Bulls played a different style of
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: basketball than they play now. So do I think it's better?
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: I think the old school basketball is better than the
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: new school basketball.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Of course they didn't heard to have Dennis Robin
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: in there either.
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: Marvin, without question, if they kept that team together in
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: ninety eight, they would have won more championships. As Tom said,
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: no one could touch them. I mean, these guys playing
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: at the top of the game. Jordan was playing great
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: that season in the last is last year there, and
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: there was nobody who would look at it and say
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: they would challenge that team. Uh so, so, yeah, I
• 22:08
  Speaker 8: would definitely assume they'd win more championships. Listen, basketball is
• 22:13
  Speaker 8: big on metrics. They call Lebron James the King. What
• 22:17
  Speaker 8: he is, he is the King. He's the king because
• 22:19
  Speaker 8: he's gonna have he has all the records. He's gonna
• 22:21
  Speaker 8: have all the records.
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 22:23
  Speaker 8: Obviously, you know most championships is the biggest one and
• 22:27
  Speaker 8: and that's and that's our man out in Boston. But
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: in the modern game, it's Michael Jordan, you know. So
• 22:36
  Speaker 8: and we count in championships is the major metric. And
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: I get that, But what about the points? Don't tell
• 22:41
  Speaker 8: you that doesn't matter. The points record was held by
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: Kareem for decades. You know, You've had many great players
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: from Kareem's retirement til today who don't want to come
• 22:50
  Speaker 8: close to that. Lebron did it. Longevity matters, you know,
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: being able to keep your body and stay in shape.
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: Your commitment to excellence, that matters. So, you know, I
• 23:00
  Speaker 8: believe that Lebron James is the king. I believe that
• 23:03
  Speaker 8: Michael Jordan is the goat. If you're asking me who
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: I take, I'm taking the goat every day, all day.
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: Michael Jordan was an assassin.
• 23:11
  Speaker 9: He was.
• 23:12
  Speaker 8: He was a Hall of Fame player on offense and defense.
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: And he gave you, you know, he gave you your money's worth.
• 23:19
  Speaker 8: This guy's playing, you know, eighty game seasons, eighty one
• 23:22
  Speaker 8: game seasons, eighty two game seasons like it's nothing, you know,
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: and playing at a high level both sides of the ball.
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: The ultimate competitor, he's still a competitor. That's why he's
• 23:31
  Speaker 8: talking junk to Lebron James, who's playing. He feels that
• 23:34
  Speaker 8: pressure a little bit. He knows he's the guy. You know,
• 23:37
  Speaker 8: he's he's He was the first one to really take
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: basketball to a certain level economically. He changed the business
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: of the game, which really made him who he is
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: along with those championships. But Lebron James has records. Metrics matter,
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: Records matter, and when he says he's the King of
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: the game. I can give him that, But like I said,
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: I gotta give Mike the title is goat.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: I just want to add to what he was asked
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: to saying, because he was asking me about who has
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: the most championships, Bill Russell with eleven.
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: Forgotten?
• 24:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah, which is sad, Which is sad? You know, yeah, not.
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: To mention an Olympic gold medal and back and back
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: in titles. He needs Twitter.
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: If he get Twitter will blow up.
• 24:28
  Speaker 9: Okay, you just you get me to get me riled up,
• 24:31
  Speaker 9: bringing up Lebron to just forget forget you?
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: Of course, why do you think I try to bring
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: you on here to get you riled.
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: I'm sorry, Marvin, I'm sorry. When you're a Larry Bird
• 24:40
  Speaker 9: guy like like I am. And you remember the guy
• 24:43
  Speaker 9: played through a back so bad he would be sure
• 24:45
  Speaker 9: in a wheelchair and this guy and this guy clops,
• 24:50
  Speaker 9: you know, when you touch him with a fingernail. It's like, no, yeah,
• 24:56
  Speaker 9: he's got the points. Yes, he's got all of those.
• 24:59
  Speaker 9: He has everything he does to have four titles. He'll
• 25:01
  Speaker 9: get no more, never again. But but and there is
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: zero chance of him having that, you know what I mean.
• 25:07
  Speaker 9: It's it's about as much chance for him that to
• 25:09
  Speaker 9: get another title is killed Williams to go without figuring
• 25:12
  Speaker 9: out Polish. But I mean, the biggest thing to say
• 25:17
  Speaker 9: about this is the fact that we're talking about I
• 25:20
  Speaker 9: brought up Bird earlier, that he goes with Jordan. They
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: were men, they were assassins, they were assassins. The reason
• 25:29
  Speaker 9: I can't put it on Lebron's because you put Lebron
• 25:32
  Speaker 9: in the nineties and he would die because there would
• 25:34
  Speaker 9: be nothing to fly. No, I'm sorry, it's the style
• 25:38
  Speaker 9: of the game pops. He fops around, He fops around,
• 25:43
  Speaker 9: and and the fakes pain on JJ Barrea. That's just
• 25:47
  Speaker 9: I mean, he is a he is. Here's one of
• 25:50
  Speaker 9: the things. He's either a horrible actor or he has
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: the worst pain tolerance for a guy with muscles I've
• 25:55
  Speaker 9: ever seen. You have a body like that, you need
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: to be you need to be a little bit of
• 25:59
  Speaker 9: a bully. You don't need to be faking it to
• 26:01
  Speaker 9: the refs. But the thing about it, yeah, he would
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: if in the nineties. It is because I'm saying he
• 26:09
  Speaker 9: would have been carted off because he can't do it
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: because of the way he acts, like when he gets
• 26:12
  Speaker 9: paid in the first place, but it's a different style
• 26:16
  Speaker 9: of game. But you had an assassin with Michael. You
• 26:19
  Speaker 9: had that. But I'm gonna say this with Michael also,
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: I don't I'm not sure they beat San Antonio on
• 26:26
  Speaker 9: ninety nine. I'm not sure of that. They were getting older,
• 26:31
  Speaker 9: but Pippins's back was bad, Jordan's knees were starting to
• 26:34
  Speaker 9: get a little bit there. Then there's a competitive they're
• 26:37
  Speaker 9: all getting older, and then you have a younger San
• 26:39
  Speaker 9: Antonio team. I'm not sure if the Bulls win any
• 26:42
  Speaker 9: more than those six in the first place, because and
• 26:46
  Speaker 9: after one loss that had been over anyway. But I'm
• 26:48
  Speaker 9: not sure the thing, but that six was amazing. But
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: MJ you talk about assassin, you talk about you talk
• 26:56
  Speaker 9: about almost ridiculous competitive fire, and I mean eighty eighty one,
• 27:03
  Speaker 9: eighty two games. You brought that up and he just
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: keep playing, and he he did not lose three in
• 27:08
  Speaker 9: a row from ninety to ninety eight, not once.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Well, they're keep in mind. One thing you're missing here
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: is Michael Jordan and games off. Either he could play
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: eighty two, he would and I can only imagine Lebron
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: James would get out smarted by Larry Bird and he
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: would get hammerd by the bad boys. I mean, he
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: and Jordan had to do with all that. So part
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: of you there is Jacob, and the other part of
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: you isn't. So if you're watching baseball and I only
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: see half of you, then that's okay too. If I
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: see all that and I know you have incredible technology.
• 27:38
  Speaker 9: Let me bring let me bring this one thing before.
• 27:41
  Speaker 9: I know, we need to get to George here. But
• 27:43
  Speaker 9: sorry about that, by the way, No, that's all right,
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: the bringing the just bringing these whole deals up. And
• 27:49
  Speaker 9: I'm not saying that for I'm not saying it for
• 27:51
  Speaker 9: style points or am I saying it for skill, because
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: I know what the skill is with Lebron, Marvin.
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: I know this.
• 27:58
  Speaker 9: It's not that part. It's just they, the lawyers and
• 28:02
  Speaker 9: the agents and Adam Silver, the walking condom. He is they.
• 28:06
  Speaker 9: I mean, I am telling you right now, every bit
• 28:09
  Speaker 9: of it. They change the style of the game for
• 28:11
  Speaker 9: a guy like Lebron. It's like, but you all get
• 28:14
  Speaker 9: the bad habits that Lebron has. He has caused athletes,
• 28:19
  Speaker 9: three hundred and fifty pound athletes from high schools and
• 28:23
  Speaker 9: colleges to flop such bad habits just to think that
• 28:27
  Speaker 9: that's good. Instead of manning up on anything, they flop
• 28:30
  Speaker 9: to get penalties. He flopped the guy to get fouls.
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: He started that stupid thing, and now everybody does it.
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: They think that's the right thing. And then you'll get
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: people calling him. They call him the biggest badass in
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: the history of the NBA, and he could be in MMA.
• 28:47
  Speaker 9: That's just a generation that doesn't understand what badass is.
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: Girl, I'll take like this, Jacob, you can't be the
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: all time leading scorer and not be a badass.
• 29:00
  Speaker 9: I'm talking about that. I'm talking about if I know
• 29:03
  Speaker 9: I'm saying this part. I know what he did for
• 29:06
  Speaker 9: his body. The thing is all the stuff that he
• 29:08
  Speaker 9: pretends to be like tough guy or whatever. He's not.
• 29:11
  Speaker 9: He pretends he's reading books. He's on the first two
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: pages on every picture. He doesn't have to. He doesn't
• 29:18
  Speaker 9: have to do all of that because he is the
• 29:20
  Speaker 9: all time waiting scorer. He is all that kind of
• 29:22
  Speaker 9: stuff like that. He made the I Promise school. He's
• 29:26
  Speaker 9: done these things. He doesn't have to pretend he does.
• 29:29
  Speaker 8: He's been the best thing for the NBA is.
• 29:32
  Speaker 9: The worst thing in the I cannot wait. He has
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: caused more. He has caused more bad habits for athletes
• 29:43
  Speaker 9: on TikTok. They all that flopping, all of the taking
• 29:47
  Speaker 9: time off. He has caused the bad habits. I mean, yeah,
• 29:51
  Speaker 9: he's a businessman and he's one of the greatest businessmen
• 29:54
  Speaker 9: we've ever seen in our lives. But let me say
• 29:57
  Speaker 9: that the biggest thing about it is, as far as
• 29:59
  Speaker 9: a ki instinct, he doesn't have Jordan's killer instinct.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Well, George, yeah, I'm just gonna close it out. And
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: the things that I look at, especially from Jordan, I mean,
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: you know, six times the NBA Finals, MVP and scoring
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: champion as we know what, eight nine, ten times after
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: I lost count. Look, but then look at his all
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: defensive first team, All defensive first team. So this man
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: was not only a score but you guys are right,
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: he was a man who was not afraid to take
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: punishment and give it out. Jordan was All defensive first
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: team for like eight ten years again during his career.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what, No way would I put
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: Lebron ahead of him. But I'm not going to go
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: that far, is what you did, Jacob. I'm not going
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: to go that far and saying all of his nasty,
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: bad habits. He's been a lot to this league, but no,
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: he is not Michael Jordan and he never will be
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: because I look at this as Jordan being far ahead
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: of him as the top five goes. Like you said earlier, Scott.
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I just I'm just saying that. I'm just saying
• 31:06
  Speaker 9: it just habits for the other athletes that they've that
• 31:09
  Speaker 9: grew up with him, he just brought so many bad ones.
• 31:13
  Speaker 9: I mean, I know, I know his skills. I'm not
• 31:15
  Speaker 9: saying he doesn't have skills. I'm not saying he has
• 31:17
  Speaker 9: the all time greats scorer. I'm not saying he's not
• 31:19
  Speaker 9: one of the all time greats. But it makes me irritated.
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: And when you see so much of load management, he
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: started that, when you see someone's flopping on the floor,
• 31:29
  Speaker 9: he started that. He I mean, you see so much
• 31:32
  Speaker 9: of this stuff. With all this stuff, you see all
• 31:35
  Speaker 9: of this. You'll see him on TikTok, you on YouTube.
• 31:38
  Speaker 9: You see high schoolers follow all this stuff. You see
• 31:41
  Speaker 9: the college people follow all this stuff. It's a it's
• 31:43
  Speaker 9: just bad habits.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: Well, here here's the champ Okay number one.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: As I said, what could have been Chicago Bulls dynasty
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: of the nineteen nineties. I think they could have gotten
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: another title or two easily. As far as Michael Jordan
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: is concerned over Lefron James, this isn't even close. Michael
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Jordan all day long, period. All Right, we're going to
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: USC but not this time for the Wolverines and the Trojans,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: but we're gonna talk women's basketball. USC star Juju Watkins
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: announces that she will miss the entire twenty twenty five
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: season and she can continues to cover from an ACL
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: injury that she suffered in March. She's hoping to be
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: back obviously next year. Marvin Will, it's your own monitor
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: where you're talking about Juju Smith Watkins. Ju Ju Watkins.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I was looking forward to seeing her play in the
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: women's Final four. Unfortunately the injury didn't allow us. But
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: what a young, gifted athlete she is.
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: Yeah, great segue from Michael Jordan, because she's she's a
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: Michael Jordan of college basketball, without questions. She's a generational player.
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: When you think about the greatest players in the history
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: of college basketball, women's college basketball already, you have to
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: say her name and that that's who she is. She
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: got injured in during the incident a tournament. It was
• 33:01
  Speaker 8: obviously early in the year, in the calendar year, and
• 33:04
  Speaker 8: I realized when she got hurt, just the timing of
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: it with the ACL she was gonna probably have to
• 33:10
  Speaker 8: miss the next season. I realized that months ago. And
• 33:13
  Speaker 8: it's heartbreaking because she I mean, she's a movement. She's inspired,
• 33:18
  Speaker 8: you know, so many people to watch the game, and
• 33:22
  Speaker 8: really coming off coming off the year before where it
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: was all about Caitlyn Clark, I think you see Juju
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: Watkins kind of filled out void and become the star
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: of women's college basketball. So really sad to see her out.
• 33:34
  Speaker 8: We're still going into this season as the number seventeen
• 33:38
  Speaker 8: team preseason number seventeen. We just signed the number one
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: player in the nation who will be with us, Jazzy Crumes,
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: I believe, and we have Kennedy Smith and a few
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: other players. So USC basketball is going to be competitive
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: this year. We expect them to be competitive to get
• 33:54
  Speaker 8: into the tournament tournament and make make a run. But
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: without your Michael Jordan is going to be tough again.
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: Juju was putting up guiding numbers on her way to
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: being selected as a Player of the year in college basketball, Tommy, Yeah,
• 34:12
  Speaker 8: the thing.
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: I remember about Juju she's a great player. The thing
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: I remember is you heard a lot of build up
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: about her as when she first got there as a
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: young player, and a lot of times when you hear
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: somebody building up like that and you finally see him play,
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: you're kind of let down.
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: But she is everything she.
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: Was said to be and as produced from day one.
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: And yeah, she's a tremendous player. I like watching her play.
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: And the other thing that I guess is worth noting.
• 34:42
  Speaker 7: About her is she's.
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: Come along in the nil age, so she's missing the
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: whole year, but I'm sure she's still able to cash
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: in like a player a decade ago couldn't have while
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: missing a whole year, and you know, maybe not being
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: the same player when they come back because of the injuries.
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: So there's another benefit of Niel that maybe we don't
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: think about as much.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: George, Yeah, I'm glad you brought this up, Scott, because yeah,
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: she is a great player, Juju. And you know when
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: she went out last year and sidelined for after that injury,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: like you guys said that, it really took the spark
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: away from a Southern cal but they still, like you said, Marvin,
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: they still got a great program. They're highly rated, they're
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: highly favored in the Big Ten race again this year
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: the Trojans.
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: It's gonna be tough though. I mean, you know, to
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: take somebody of that magnitude and that ability and the
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: strength that she has both offensively defenses, and now she's
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: gonna be sidelined for the season, as you said, recovering
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: from that ACL. I just wish her the best, and
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: I'm sure that her eyes are focused too, probably on
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: a career as a professional with the WNBA. But let's
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: take first things first. You got to try to win.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: You got pulled the team together as I know coach
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: will do, and pull it together and try to accomplish
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: feet number one, which is to win the Big Ten
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: title this year. But it's going to be a lost,
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: no question, Jacob.
• 36:14
  Speaker 9: I have to say this, Marvin, how I am and
• 36:16
  Speaker 9: how right you are with Juju. I have to say
• 36:19
  Speaker 9: this part here. I was sad when I heard this,
• 36:23
  Speaker 9: sad because everybody was bringing up the the Caitlyn and
• 36:28
  Speaker 9: Angel Reese rivalry, which two different type players. I wouldn't
• 36:32
  Speaker 9: really calling that one. I always I never I wasn't
• 36:35
  Speaker 9: going against Angel. What I was saying was I wanted
• 36:38
  Speaker 9: Juju in the NBA and watch those two go at it.
• 36:42
  Speaker 9: Their styles are just so similar and everything like that,
• 36:45
  Speaker 9: and it's made me sad. It's a double said because
• 36:47
  Speaker 9: Caitlyn and Juju both had the injuries, you know, and
• 36:51
  Speaker 9: you have all this and it's like and you just
• 36:53
  Speaker 9: can't tell. And I kind of hate seeing this because
• 36:57
  Speaker 9: she absolutely positively she could have brought more rate that
• 37:00
  Speaker 9: and for the college game kind of like that from
• 37:03
  Speaker 9: what's because she has fun to watch. And what worries
• 37:07
  Speaker 9: it worries me now is because it always worries me
• 37:10
  Speaker 9: when somebody has a bad knee in college, whether it's football, basketball,
• 37:14
  Speaker 9: or whatever. How bad does it linger? Let's hope this
• 37:17
  Speaker 9: fixes it and she can have a long career because
• 37:19
  Speaker 9: she is fun to watch. I just hope it doesn't linger.
• 37:22
  Speaker 9: Going into the.
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: W who's left.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: I am good handy, So one of the things that
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: she said in her statement, these last few months have
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: been filled with a lot of healing, rest and reflection.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Recovering from this injury hasn't been easy, and I want
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: to say thank you. Your love, support and kind words
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: have truly lifted me up during one of the most
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: challenging times in my life. Because you've been with me
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: every step of the way. I wanted you to hear
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: it from me directly that, following the advice of my
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: doctors and trainers, I will sit out this season and
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: fully focus on continuing to recover so I can come
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: back to the game. I love. That had to take
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: a lot of guts, and that had to be hard,
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: But in the long run, she's better for it, because
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: sometimes people rush back from injuries, I think, and they
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: try and push themselves and they play and they re
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: injure or they're more prone to get injuries, or they
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: sustain what will become Mike could be a lifelong problem.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: So I give her a lot of credit for her
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: to sit down and listen to the doctors and trainers
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: and say this is what's best for me and my
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: health above anything else, because you don't hear that all
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: the time. And I you know, I'm going to miss
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: her not being out there, but I hope she can
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: fully recover from this. You know, during this this year.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Marvin said it from the start to ju Wack Right, Okay,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, Right, segue from what I need to say.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: All Right, I'll tell you what. Let's go to college football.
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: Get this.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: You want to talk about how far they schedule these
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: things out? The next Furthest contracting game is on September tenth,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: two thousand and thirty nine. Troy, is that Army fifteen
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: years in advance? It's the furthest college football game on record,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: and the schedule and the game is scheduled in twenty
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: four e Tommy, How does this stuff happen?
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: They're scheduled that far ahead?
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: You mean, yeah, they're organized.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you think, I know you can follow the Army, right, Troy,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: you gonna I don't know. I'm gonna be alive to
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: see it, but there'll be a different.
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: One of the things.
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: About Army football is they like to play a national schedule.
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: That's one of the reasons they ever reluctant to join
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: the Conference of the American Conference. And the same as
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: true of maybe before they went in is you know,
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: they have players all over the country. Every road game
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: they play is a homecoming for somebody on their roster, right,
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: and so they like to play across the country, and
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: they always had to have flexibility with the non conference games,
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: so now they have less flexibility. So maybe that has
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: something to do with scheduling a game of down in Alabama.
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: They like to schedule games near military bases too, so
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: it doesn't surprise me, and I don't see a problem
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: with it either.
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: Hey, Marvin, I know you're going to be in twenty forty.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Man, after you get done reading my book and you
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: keep making your progress in the broadcasting range, you're going
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: to be one of the four major networks anyhow, So
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: me who knows. Maybe you'll provide the color commentary for
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: this game. All I know is that by the time
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: they schedule this thing out way better than twenty forty,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I will be in a concrete nap up in Wisconsin.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: I can assure you that I have a feeling. I
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: believe it.
• 41:01
  Speaker 9: You're telling Kennedy she's failing in your.
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: Tah Not that woman here is anything. I'll tell you.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: She's the reason I'm still doing this stuff, because I
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: would be doing this. But yeah, I mean, Army a
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: truly a hundred percent run game in the old Earl.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: There'll be one hundred percent running game at twenty forty
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: when I'm doing my concrete nowt mall be calling the
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: co colentary for this game. Marvin, what do you think
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: about when they scheduled this start of advance?
• 41:27
  Speaker 8: Listen, Like Tom, I have tremendous respect for the Service
• 41:30
  Speaker 8: academies and their football team. Uh well aware of Army
• 41:34
  Speaker 8: and who they were in the nineteen forties Army, Navy.
• 41:37
  Speaker 8: And you know, I'm someone who has many family members,
• 41:43
  Speaker 8: like one of our last comments was from my cousin Earl,
• 41:45
  Speaker 8: who was in the Army. Many family members who serve
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: so absolutely got love for them. Listen, this is business.
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: They're they're they're figuring out their money and how they
• 41:56
  Speaker 8: can you know, stay relevant and play teams and play
• 42:00
  Speaker 8: big teams. This I don't think Troy is a big school,
• 42:03
  Speaker 8: but but you know, the way this thing's realigning and
• 42:06
  Speaker 8: with the way the money's being thrown around, they're just
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: trying to slid fight their spot, get their schedules straight,
• 42:13
  Speaker 8: and you know, just make sure that they have teams
• 42:16
  Speaker 8: to play in the future. Man, and get to get
• 42:18
  Speaker 8: something in writing, get something contractual. This is this is
• 42:21
  Speaker 8: just business.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: I'm long record right now. In twenty forty, Jacob Christner
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: will have a star on the Hollywood Walk of thing.
• 42:29
  Speaker 9: Well, I'll also be fifty eight years old with probably
• 42:32
  Speaker 9: a four to two year old in the house ring around.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: And by the way, Jacob, that's a segue for tomorrow's
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: show on No Limits. So yeah, all right, so what that?
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: So what do you think about them scheduling a college
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: football game that far out?
• 42:44
  Speaker 7: Mr?
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 42:46
  Speaker 9: Sort of? This is the thing. You're probably gonna see
• 42:48
  Speaker 9: this more and more as the time goes on. Like
• 42:50
  Speaker 9: when twenty thirty, twenty thirty five hits, you're probably gonna
• 42:53
  Speaker 9: see the next one in twenty fifty six. It's because
• 42:57
  Speaker 9: here's another thing to realize. Also, you you realize that
• 43:01
  Speaker 9: so people that did the scheduling before, like in the
• 43:06
  Speaker 9: years before that, years and years before that, were older.
• 43:09
  Speaker 9: Older people. Everybody that has these jobs now are younger.
• 43:14
  Speaker 9: They might be around for a while, they might be said,
• 43:16
  Speaker 9: they're probably thinking way far ahead like that they are.
• 43:20
  Speaker 9: You know, there are probably twenty five thirty year olds
• 43:22
  Speaker 9: doing this. They're probably thinking, well, they're gonna be ahead.
• 43:24
  Speaker 9: They're probably thinking fifteen to twenty years. You never know,
• 43:28
  Speaker 9: and by that point, the way things change, army might
• 43:30
  Speaker 9: be a army might be a four to three defense
• 43:33
  Speaker 9: with a with a big four hundred yard passers.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: And Bucky Morgan Ross will be going out there running
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: through breaking tackles.
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: Well, Boots will be all doing the tushbush. That's my
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: other cat those things.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Boots my touch Sedo Cant will be doing the tushbush,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: and Bucky will be fly for.
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: Tackless caring touchdown. Great stuff. I got no but I
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: gotta get my canceled there a little bit. And this
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: is perfect George getting any of this.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, this is an interesting discussion. I mean,
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: I know college football schedules are made up in advance,
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: but this is crazy non conference. Yeah, I've seen them
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: as far as seven years out, but you know, I
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: know that they already had game schedule they said, you know,
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: in you know, twenty thirty thirty one. This is really interesting, though,
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: because there has been a lot of good Service academy football,
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: let's be honest, in the past dozen years or so.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: You know, it started with Air Force and then of
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: course Navies played very well. Armies played very well recently.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: So in addition to all their academic and you know,
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: going through military school, et cetera, they have fielded some
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: darn good football teams. So I applaud Troy, which is
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: a small college. As you guys said, of going out
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: their years in advance with these specific goals in mind,
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: you know, to play to play Army and adding these
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: games to the future series. I think it's great stuff.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: I really do.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: What are you candy for the small schools? This is
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: great marketing because this also helps you recruit because you've
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: scheduled some of these games way out in advance. So
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: kudos to them. I mean, I think that it's smart.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: It gives them they know who they're going to be playing,
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: and it'll make it easier for the schedule makers.
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: Okay, well I'll tell you.
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: Let me have one more thing about Army military football
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: in general, because this was such an interesting comment. Ruff
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: and McNeil used to be the head coach at East
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: Carolina and then he was late. In fact, his offensive
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: coordinator was Lincoln Riley, and when Lincoln Riley was the
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: head coach at Oklahoma, he brought rough and back with
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: him and one year Army played at Oklahoma and Oklahoma
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: had to go to overtime to beat them because Army
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: had controlled the ball so much. Kyler Murray was never
• 46:05
  Speaker 6: on the field and ruffin can you talk about going
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: against the academy teams, because he also had to play
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: Navy annually when he was at East Carolina, and he
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: said he used to always tell his players, these guys
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: are as heavily as recruited as you were. But let
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: me tell you this, they aren't gonna be afraid of you.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: That's a good one time. I love it.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Where you'll have more when you do the Shanahan Report
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: later as well. I'll tell you what we're gonna go
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: to some of the schedule way sooner than that game.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: UNC and Butler will starting home and home series in
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Chapel Hill during the twenty during the twenty twenty six
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: twenty seventh series. I'll tell you one thing, this will
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: be a pretty good little match up because when they
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: get to hankle Field House. You know, you talk about
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: where Hoosiers was filmed, but who's when you think of
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Butler and North Carolina pretty interesting, Tommy, what do you
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: think about how that one was handled there? I kind
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: of like this I'm gonna treat by Butler and North Carolina.
• 47:05
  Speaker 7: North Carolina's gonna play at Butler. Is that it?
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Whether it's a home and home series between the two,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: which actually starts on twenty twenty sixth seven.
• 47:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's great. It's not surprising coming from North Carolina.
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: They have great tradition in North Carolina and great respect
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: for tradition and history.
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: Hubert Davis goes back all the way to.
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: You know, he was a.
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: Player there and then a long time assistant coach and
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: so it's all connected with Dean Smith and Roy Williams.
• 47:37
  Speaker 7: So it doesn't surprise me a bit. It's very typical
• 47:40
  Speaker 7: of North Carolina Candy.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: The teams obviously will play in Chapel Hill either November
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: or December twenty twenty six, before the Bulldogs host the
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: Tar Hills at Hinkle Fieldhouse in neither November or December
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: of twenty twenty seven. The two programs have a six
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: previous meetings. The teams first met during the nineteen twenty
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: eight twenty nine season, with Butler winning atk Hankle Fieldhouse.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: U n C is one the only meeting that took
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: place at Chapel Hill back in ninety four. So the
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: three most recent games have all been played on neutral courts,
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: and North Carolina has been ranked among the top ten
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: nationally in each of the tips. But I just I
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: think it's I think it's good. I think it's good
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: for teams to play some of the noteworthy schools, and
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: you know that they haven't played in a long time,
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: so I think it's good to you know, bring some
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: new blood and some new matchups for us to like
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: and get excited for.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when this one came up there, this was an
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: old brainer for sure. Thank you very much. We appreciate
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: you being here. I hope you're a subscriber for the
• 49:04
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• 49:07
  Speaker 1: We enjoy having it in here. You're a great contributor
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: in the chat room. We need more, likely, Earl, so
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: great stuff. Your contributions have been nottually short about standing
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: with a five million exclamation points.
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: Thanks Earl. Here's the real deal, Okay, Mervin.
• 49:22
  Speaker 8: This is great for college basketball. These are two proud programs,
• 49:26
  Speaker 8: obviously different level, Butler's a smaller school and uh, but
• 49:30
  Speaker 8: you know they've been to the national title in the
• 49:32
  Speaker 8: last five to seven years. I don't know how when
• 49:35
  Speaker 8: that was. They made a run and you know they
• 49:38
  Speaker 8: were on the national scene. People know who they are.
• 49:41
  Speaker 8: And Chapel Hill is again. Here we go up to
• 49:43
  Speaker 8: the third Segway Michael Jordan. You know Chapel Hill is
• 49:46
  Speaker 8: Chapel Hill, you know, so they are, you know, at
• 49:49
  Speaker 8: the mountaintop with Duke in Kentucky and that school across
• 49:53
  Speaker 8: town in Los Angeles. Uh, just as an all time team,
• 49:56
  Speaker 8: and you know, it'd be great, it'd be it'd be
• 49:59
  Speaker 8: great for the FA great further alum, and I look
• 50:02
  Speaker 8: forward to watching that game.
• 50:04
  Speaker 9: Jacob Well, I love what he said. Army is the
• 50:08
  Speaker 9: way army, you know that kind of stuff. Just wait
• 50:10
  Speaker 9: till Spaceports gets a football team. Okay, they're really going
• 50:13
  Speaker 9: to take it, but come on, but no, the big
• 50:20
  Speaker 9: one of the things about it, I remember it was
• 50:21
  Speaker 9: twenty fifteen, I believe when Butler almost won that game
• 50:24
  Speaker 9: with a half four shot against Duke. But but the
• 50:30
  Speaker 9: but one of the things that we know. But one
• 50:31
  Speaker 9: of the things it was a twenty it was something today,
• 50:34
  Speaker 9: but it was really a little farther back when we think.
• 50:36
  Speaker 9: But one of the things that we see with Butler
• 50:39
  Speaker 9: is the fact that all of these times everybody's talking
• 50:42
  Speaker 9: about that they're a smaller team and stuff. How do
• 50:44
  Speaker 9: we know that that could be a powerhouse by that
• 50:45
  Speaker 9: point and like I mean, I came from a school
• 50:49
  Speaker 9: called Lee University in Tennessee, but I helped with a
• 50:52
  Speaker 9: movie called that Keep the Flame Alive their naia and
• 50:55
  Speaker 9: that was a miracle to make ANAA. Now they're full
• 50:58
  Speaker 9: fledged Division two. Who knows that they start winning go
• 51:01
  Speaker 9: D one. You know, even by I mean we go
• 51:04
  Speaker 9: back to these points, you never know, things go quicker.
• 51:07
  Speaker 9: So I mean Butler could be the powerhouse by that point.
• 51:10
  Speaker 9: We're talking smaller school right now, they could easily be
• 51:13
  Speaker 9: a powerhouse to win two national titles. We don't know,
• 51:15
  Speaker 9: And don't say no to that, George.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and just to follow up with what Candy was
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: saying in North Carolina Butler have met six times, but
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: you know, the two programs are completely different in many ways.
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: Obviously a big powerhouse against a smaller school. But you
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: know that Sweet sixteen of twenty seventeen, I believe it
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: was when the Tar Hills beat Butler in ninety two
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: to eighty. It says in Memphis, this is good and
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: it's not way out like the other series we talked about.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: A football this is coming up rather quickly. As you
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: mentioned two O twenty twenty sixth season and the twenty
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: twenty seven back at Hinko. It's gonna be fun. And
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: Butler has done a nice job, let's face it, in
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: college basketball for many years now, they've done a really
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: good job. So I'm happy for them. And like you
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: guys were saying, who knows, maybe they'll be one of
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: the powerhouses back then. But obviously when you sign up
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: to play North Carolina, you better be ready because you
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: know it's going to be a hell of a game
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: and a hell of an effort, even if it is
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: a couple of years of the in the future. But
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: I'm glad they're doing this. This is great stuff.
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: Well, I like this matchup. I really do.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Talk about the Heagle Field House and history. Butler has
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: a much bigger history than most people really.
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: Think that they do. And we all know about UNC.
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: Everybody talk about this whole thing.
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: Okay, well good.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Let's go back to the first week of the college
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: football season when Ohio State brought in a bag I'll
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: tell you a week one versus Texas. Get this, they
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: got eighteen million bucks and I mean against the Texas Longhorns.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: According to adve Rons Peyork, he told inside the boardroom
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: the game drove eighteen million in ticket sales and a
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: school record three million concessions. You talk about a home
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: run at the box office, Tommy, this one was definitely it.
• 53:13
  Speaker 7: That's what was the best part about it.
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: Because Texas has gone down hill ever since then started there.
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: We're all talking more about them on Tuesday next week.
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: But go ahead, yeah, well, Io State they have a
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: cash register there so and they just keep ringing it up.
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: Eighteen million dollars. It just blows me away.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Eighteen million in ticket, three million concessions, candy. What do
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: you think about this?
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: I mean it was one of the premier matchups for
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: that weekend and everybody was talking about it for how long?
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: And so I mean they were going to sell out
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: of course everybody. You know, I believe was that a
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: day game or was it a night game? I don't remember.
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: It was a day game.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: If I remember, I mean a day game. People are
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: gonna be thirsty. Let's face it, in the sun, you're
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: sitting in an outdoor stadium, you want sincessions are gonna
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: you know, skyrocket. Good kudos to Ohio State.
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: Mark.
• 54:18
  Speaker 8: You know, when you see these see these kind of numbers,
• 54:20
  Speaker 8: you realize, uh, it's never not not about football. This
• 54:24
  Speaker 8: is big business, you know, and it blows my mind that,
• 54:28
  Speaker 8: you know, the storm is kind of quieted down a
• 54:30
  Speaker 8: little bit. The noise is quite a down about ni
• 54:33
  Speaker 8: L and you know, the people being upset because players
• 54:35
  Speaker 8: are getting paid. It blows my mind how much money
• 54:39
  Speaker 8: these players are generating, how many billions of dollars are
• 54:42
  Speaker 8: being generated on the backstage players and you have people
• 54:46
  Speaker 8: who really had a problem with them, you know, getting
• 54:49
  Speaker 8: this a piece of it, you know, whatever was whatever
• 54:52
  Speaker 8: was agreed upon in the settlement. The schools are making
• 54:55
  Speaker 8: over like a fat rat. You don't hear the presidents
• 54:58
  Speaker 8: and the ads complaining because they making big money. These
• 55:00
  Speaker 8: schools is making you know, two hundred million dollars plus
• 55:03
  Speaker 8: a year just on football, you know, the biggest it's
• 55:07
  Speaker 8: the biggest business on campus. So listen, doesn't surprise me.
• 55:11
  Speaker 8: These are mega programs, you know, these the these stadium
• 55:15
  Speaker 8: fees and the food and the drinks. Uh some of
• 55:18
  Speaker 8: this call these costs are high. And when you pack
• 55:22
  Speaker 8: stadiums with a bunch of loyal, loyal fan base, they
• 55:26
  Speaker 8: gonna spend that money. And you see it. You know, listen,
• 55:29
  Speaker 8: we're talking about that game. Look at look at what
• 55:32
  Speaker 8: they make every game, regardless of who they're playing. You know,
• 55:34
  Speaker 8: these major programs. So this is big business. You know,
• 55:38
  Speaker 8: the numbers in the reality the business is now you
• 55:40
  Speaker 8: know being told we're seeing it and you know, good
• 55:43
  Speaker 8: for the game, great for the players, Jacob.
• 55:48
  Speaker 9: Look, no, that you got the wrong numbers there, Candy.
• 55:51
  Speaker 9: The eighteen million dollars is actually what went to Matthew
• 55:53
  Speaker 9: McConaughey to pump up the Texas to lose at the game.
• 55:57
  Speaker 9: But the but the the big thing, the big thing
• 56:02
  Speaker 9: about it is the fact that this is why, this
• 56:05
  Speaker 9: is why, that's you never know about being play like
• 56:09
  Speaker 9: we were bringing up from the last time of who
• 56:11
  Speaker 9: can make it, who's going to have the money? See,
• 56:14
  Speaker 9: one of the biggest I can say this I brought
• 56:16
  Speaker 9: up my school earlier. They don't have a football team
• 56:18
  Speaker 9: and they won't. But one of the things that they
• 56:20
  Speaker 9: have reminded me of is years and years ago they
• 56:22
  Speaker 9: made a student union for like twenty five million from
• 56:25
  Speaker 9: Richard de Voss, who was who was with the Orlando Magic.
• 56:29
  Speaker 9: He went to the league, so he got that kind
• 56:31
  Speaker 9: of thing. There's so you never know who goes to
• 56:34
  Speaker 9: these little schools who could put that kind of money
• 56:38
  Speaker 9: out there and make them big, very very fast. And
• 56:41
  Speaker 9: so Ohio State, so Ohio State getting that kind of money.
• 56:45
  Speaker 9: Of course, they paid the most to get the national
• 56:47
  Speaker 9: title this year. Can guy last year? Congratulations to him.
• 56:50
  Speaker 9: Texas pays the most to well get eight wins, Congratulations
• 56:55
  Speaker 9: to them, you know. But the big the thing is
• 56:59
  Speaker 9: it is going to be the pay. And it's like
• 57:01
  Speaker 9: one thing that I hope from this and I hope
• 57:04
  Speaker 9: this happens, is I hope that some of these players
• 57:08
  Speaker 9: have better nil money, that they stay at these schools
• 57:11
  Speaker 9: for a while instead of going straight to the NFL.
• 57:14
  Speaker 8: And I've already seen it, but you've already seen it's
• 57:17
  Speaker 8: already happening.
• 57:17
  Speaker 9: And I hope that thing because I hope, du say.
• 57:21
  Speaker 9: I'm not saying this is part of the thing. I'm
• 57:22
  Speaker 9: saying this. I hope the shaduor Sanders thing is a
• 57:24
  Speaker 9: cautionary tale and they stay a bit. I really do,
• 57:28
  Speaker 9: because college college college football can only benefit from that,
• 57:33
  Speaker 9: get the better players.
• 57:34
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 57:35
  Speaker 9: It's like, I'm not saying that is bad or doing anything.
• 57:37
  Speaker 9: What I'm saying is just what happened. And the whole
• 57:40
  Speaker 9: ramifications of everything. I just hope people think about it
• 57:43
  Speaker 9: a little bit. Stay in college.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Hey, Tommy, I have a few more football topics. Can
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: you stay on for the rest of the football And no,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: it's telling about ten or fifteen minutes.
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: Is that okay? It's a little bit too late for you.
• 57:53
  Speaker 7: That's okay.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to make sure that's okay with you,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: because I do have some football George, you got the
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: last word on this, and I have a few more
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: fule topics. And Tommy, as the Shanahan Report, we go
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: to basketball and non sports. He doesn't have to worry
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: about the rest of those. I just since he's on
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: inside the picks and I'm sure he gets a piece
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: of the pigskin action.
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: Okay, go ahead, George, Yeah, just it is.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: It's a college football is such a big business right now,
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: Like you guys have said, And that game was touted,
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: that was touted big time. Ohio State playing Texas and
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: last year the University of Michigan played Texas. This year
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: Michigan played Oklahoma. I'd like to see these games that
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: we normally don't see, these rivalries that have been unfortunately
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: extinct for quite a number of years. I think this
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: is important to college football. The payouts are unbelievable. Well,
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: when you have big stadiums like that Michigan State and
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry Michigan and Ohio State and Penn State and Tennessee,
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: all these great, big stadiums, it's no wonder that these
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: payoffs are so huge. But the commercial aspect and obviously
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: the advertising drives all these prices as well. And you know,
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: college football is just you don't like the farm team
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: of the NFL.
• 59:03
  Speaker 8: So these big.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: Payouts are going to continue and even get higher.
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: I think, Yeah, George, immaciently, how you mentioned that too, Kandy.
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: I'll bring in a second.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: We're going to have a future segment on some of
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: the bigger stadiums on Inside the Pitchkin and how many
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: of our athletes on the show have been there.
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: That's probably in about a week or two Maro and
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: just you know, in a couple of weeks, go ahead,
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: Candy could.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: The only thing I did want to add to all
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: of this discussion is is that back in January of
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, the Ohio State Athletics claims that they
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: operated the previous year with a thirty seven point seven
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: million dollar deficit, but they did not make revenue from
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: all the you know we take. We talk about this
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: big business, all this football money comes in, but we
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: forget there's coaches salaries, there's all kinds of other expenses.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: Nil trying to you know, figure out the whole scheme
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: of things. Ohio State, with all that money that they
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: took in last year, they operated on a deficit of
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: thirty seven point seven million.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: Great sub Candie, all right, you know what, we'll go
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: to one more football topic. We'll go to a station break,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: and then we'll have a couple more football topics go
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: than the Shanahan report will be.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: As time he.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Gets ready to go, I could give us a little
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: review there. And that's just we started our evening off
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: with no limits. Now I have another thing related to
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: no limits. One armed on Northwestern running back has no limits.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Albert Kuneck the third hung is having a childhood dream
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: to play Division one football. So Albert Konnick the third
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: is living out his childhood dream to play Division one football. Tommy,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about? I told you I come
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: up with some interesting ones. Now we got a guy
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: with one armed with no limits with his division one
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: living on his foot Division one college football?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 7: Is he a freshman? I haven't heard about this guy.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but Candy, knowing her, she'll find it.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: But just think a guy with one arm playing division Well.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah what what?
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: What doer?
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: What kind of a player? He was in high school
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: and end up in Northwestern? He had to be pretty good. Yeah,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: it's a great story. More power to him, you know.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: And he's not the first one though. The was it
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: Central Florida US You see f that had the guy with.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: The oh yeah yeah, Shaq Griffin. Right, yeah, there were.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 7: The two brothers.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: There was almost all American level player and then his
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 6: other His brother had a deformed arhim or something. But
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 6: he was a very good, good player, so may more
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 6: power to him.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Hey let's say he's going to journalism school anyways, my gosh,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's smart there.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: He'll know what we talk about.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: But the fact he's playing football, he will know exactly
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: what's going on. So I figured, hey, we got to
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: show with no limits. We've got to go out there
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: and probably their show in addition to talk about this guy,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Candy e anything on this guy.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: I'm so doing research, So go ahead, Marvin listen.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 8: It is highly impressive. I'm highly impressed, and just speaks
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 8: to his passion and commitment and dedication. It's hard for
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 8: me to believe that a person with one arm can
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 8: compete in college football, just with my understanding of how
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 8: the game is played and what my mentality was as
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 8: a leading black as a run block and fullback. But
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 8: kudos to him. It's great for the game, it's a
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 8: great story. It's going to inspire a lot of people
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 8: who are dealing with dealing with stuff much less than
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 8: what he has. So hey, good for you.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: Go get it Jacob in your backyard.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 9: Oh absolutely, I absolutely understand that. And let me tell
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 9: you this, mar between the fifty nine year old that's
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 9: played as a freshman in that college, the one armed guy.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 9: You are ready for your comeback. I know you have
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 9: no pain whatsoever. I know I know you're into perfect shape.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 9: You're ready. I know it's your time.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 8: I'm trying to get to the Hall of Fame of
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 8: podcasting with Scott. I'm chasing Scott right now. I'm not
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 8: chasing Tom Brady. I'm not chasing me.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: I'm chasing me. You're on my team. You're not chasing me.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: You're with me, you know what I mean different wait
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait, And I'm a professor and you're
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: the people here, my brother, yeah, chasing me.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: You're on my team and you're winning. Brother, I don't
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: even go there. You're chasing. You're like Robert Redford. You're
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 5: the natural. If I ever saw one.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 9: Part of my point I'm gonna make here, this is
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 9: the part of the point I make here is gonna
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 9: be another subject real quick to just give me the
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 9: guys that warning. This just shows what physical training does now.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 9: We have a one armed man going into football, and
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 9: you have a fifty nine year old going into football.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 9: You had all those I just saw. I mean I
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 9: just saw d DP helping Lex Luger get off the
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 9: wheelchair from yoga for you know, and it's like I
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 9: saw him. He got he literally got off of he's
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 9: getting him off of a wheelchair to try to get
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 9: him to walk from yoga. It's like it's like there
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 9: are It just shows the advancements of physical training now
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 9: and what the things that you can be able to do.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 9: I mean there are things like Parkinson's Hey, new boxing
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 9: classes and music classes. It's like there, see the thing
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 9: is now anybody that says they can't do it. Before
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 9: they would say can't do it. And it's like you
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 9: have a fifty percent thing. If somebody's saying, yeah, you're right,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 9: but you have YouTube, you have all these things now
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 9: showing that that's wrong. That's just you, that's just you
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 9: being lazy. So there, everybody has that option. Everybody has
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 9: that thing to put that extra mile. So it just
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 9: shows that right now, George.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: Or who hasn't this?
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I yeah, just real quick, uh yeah, this is
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: a This is great. You know. I always love to
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: see the kids trying out and pushing himselves even more
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: and more. You know, sometimes on your local newscast too,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: you'll see where a high school team one of the
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: kids is in a special needs program of some sort,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: and they'll help him, you know, with the with the
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: huddle and then you know, carry him across the goal
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: line and that kind of stuff, you know, which is great.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: This this, I applaud this young man. I think this
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: is a great thing to do. And I know I'm
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: comparing amples and oranges, but boil boy. When you have
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: an injury like that, whether you're in sports or just
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: everyday life, I mean, your challenge is out there, So
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: I think it's great. I give the kid all the
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: credit in the world.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: All right, Katy, so he he, Okay, we're gonna go
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: back to high school. First of all, he attended Lamont
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: High School in Lamont, Illinois. In his senior season, he
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: rushed for one thousand, three hundred and ninety three yards
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: nine point one yards per carry, and scored twenty two
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: rushing touchdowns and two receiving touchdowns, leading Lamont to Class
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: six A State quarterfinals, first team All State in the
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: second round of States. In his senior campaign, he scored
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: six touchdowns also served as a kicker for Lamont. Now
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, he did not see any game action
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: with Northwestern twenty twenty three. Red shirt first year. He
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: made his college debut against UTEP twenty twenty four red
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: shirt shirt sophomore. Appeared in three contests as a red
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: shirt sophomore, logged his first career carry for three yards
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter of a win against Maryland. He
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: came on as a north came to Northwestern as a
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: preferred walk.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: On great stuff. All right, let's go to New York.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson had lost eighth street games the last time
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: he had ended obviously dating back to December eighth of
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, The Giants of Benjamin Favorite of Jackson Dart.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: We all know full well, Tommy, that this was a
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: way for Brian Dable to try to save his job.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: And I realized that Dart, Lawson, Norley and Saints. But
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: that's a have up in New York with the Giants.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: My goodness, it is really Russe Ledden up there, Russell Wilson.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: We all know what's going to be traded by the
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: end of the year. Jackson Dark a good player, Ryan Davill,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Wi'll get used to what unemployment it's going to be.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: Like I said, won't be long, because even Dart's not
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: gonna say it. What are your thoughts about what's going
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: on with the Giants, Tommy.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 6: Well, Russell Wilson was done last year and as soon
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 6: as you how desperate the Giants were that they.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 7: Even signed him. Jackson Dart has got to be their future.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 6: And they've they've screwed up their succession plan for a
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 6: quarterback and they got themselves with an empty quarterback room
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 6: and now they're forced to play this rookie and hopefully
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 6: they don't get him beat up. And from what I understand,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 6: I haven't watched him play, but what I understand, he's
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 6: been very promising in the playing time he's had Candy.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: How interesting though, that they had Russell Wilson. Remember they
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: also have Jameis Winston, and Cincinnati went shopping for a
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: quarterback and they didn't look at either of them. They
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: went with Joe Flacco from Cleveland. So that's really interesting Wilson.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: As much as I loved Wilson because he, yes, he
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: played one year at Wisconsin did well, I just I
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: don't think he has that fire in his you know,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: within him anymore. And I think it's it shows and
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: sometimes you you outlast really what you should. And maybe
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: it's just time for him to retire. But yeah, that's.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 8: You know, it's funny we talk about Flacco. I think
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 8: they're at the same point of their career right now.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 8: Both of these guys super Bowl champions, and both these
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 8: guys were franchise quarterbacks and now it looks like they're
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 8: both journeymen, you know, just going to you know, be
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 8: bridge quarterbacks, you know, for for ten fifteen million dollars
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 8: a year. You know, it's sad because Russell. You know
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 8: in that Cowboy game he do for four hundred and
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 8: fifty yards. You know, he's made some plays. You know,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 8: he's looked okay at times. Jackson Darts to the future,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 8: you know, Dave balls trying to save his job. As
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 8: you said, Scott, he's going with the young gun. There
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 8: are twelve more games to be played. There's a lot
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 8: of football to be played. This kid will gain more
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 8: confidence every game. The game will slow down a little bit.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 8: But at the same time, when these defense again, when
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 8: these defensive coordinators kind of figure out what you can
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 8: do and what you can't do, they're going to force
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 8: your hand to put you in a bad position. And
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 8: they can do that. They do that. So this would
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 8: be interesting. It would be Listen, if they win, if
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 8: they want to run and they win the last eight
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 8: games of the season, maybe they have some If they
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 8: go on you know, they going to run and they
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 8: go six and two last eight games of the season,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 8: we'll see. But Dart's a player. He was good at
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 8: USC and I think he'll be okay to pros.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 9: Jacob, Well, just think of it this way. You've got
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 9: Jackson Dart and you've got Camp Scataboo, and they're like
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 9: and they're like wine from the wine from Costco, the
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 9: exciting whites. But but the but the big but you know,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 9: But the thing is they're gonna be fun. They're gonna
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 9: be They're gonna be fun to see. New York giants
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 9: usually don't have a whole lot to look forward to.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 9: I mean, they get excited two years in a row
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 9: for Tommy DeVito because they could do this. They can
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 9: do this all the time, and they can talk about
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 9: the cutlets and they go have all that kind of stuff.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 9: That's how bad offense bends they're gonna have regardless of
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 9: how they do the rest of the year, they're gonna
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 9: have fun there. Scoutaboo, I mean he eats crayons and
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 9: paste and his bags through yet he just he has
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 9: actually no brain with the game whatsoever. He's just he's
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 9: fun to watch like that, and dark he runs and
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 9: he I mean, he makes some good plays and he's
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 9: definitely reading the field better than Russell Wilson. I mean,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 9: but one good thing about Russell Wilson, at least I
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 9: had time to do that. Do more dips on the sidelines, George.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not giving up totally on Russell. But boy, it
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: sure looks to bleak right now with the Giants. I mean,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: you know, he had those great years like you were
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: talking about Marvin in Seattle and then Denver for a
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: couple of years, and Pittsburgh of course, and that didn't
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: work out either a year ago. Yeah, his numbers just
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: are out there. The numbers have dropped so much. His
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: his completion rates and his interceptions has increased, and even
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: his yards average on a pass has decreased the last
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: few years. A great career, but he just doesn't seem
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: I think you're right, Candy. No fire in the belly,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: as they say, maybe there's something lacking there. I know
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: he's got, you know, a home life, but all the
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: players have that. He's got a wonderful family, I'm sure,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: And I don't know. I mean, at his age, it
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: doesn't look good right now. And I think the Giants
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: are doing the right thing, Scott and bringing the youngster
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: on board and starting him instead.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I'll summarize it this way.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson should have been with the Raiders and he
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: should have been with Pete Carroll and I'll leave it
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: at that. So Tommy two more football topics to get
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: to than to Shanahan report. That will take it the
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: rest of the way. Number One, we all knew that
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: Baltimore Rats were a train wreck earlier in the year
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: because an opening week they had collapse to the Buffalo
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: Bills and now had bloom. Excuse me, John Harball has
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: now blown seventeen double digit half leads, the most by
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: anti coach since nineteen ninety one. Now the narrative gets
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: even worse. Okay, the Ravens are on pace to become
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: the first team to allow six hundred points, and through
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: Week five, the Ravens have allowed one hundred and seventy
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: seven points. And they've gone out there and had one
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five last all of last season. So
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: let's get back to the first one. Blowing a seven
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: blown seventeen double digit second half leads as unbelievable and
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Tommy it is on call for.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, coaches lose their ads, franchises lose their
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 6: touch on drafts developing players. That seems to all be
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 6: happening at Baltimore. I feel sorry for Lamar Jackson. I've
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 6: always loved him since he was in Louisvio. I always
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 6: remember at the ACC kickoff media days after he won
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 6: the Heisman Trophy, people, he was being questioned about.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 7: The pressure he was under, I gotta win another Heisman?
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 7: What kind of pressure he faced? And Lamar Jackson said,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 7: I wasn't trying to win it last year.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: The boar was like Jim Since said, and apparently his
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 6: super Bowl window is closed.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 7: So I feel sorry for that for Lamar Jackson.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Candy. Some talks about what's going on in Baltimore.
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  Speaker 3: This might not be a popular opinion, but my question
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: to all of you is, if they've blown so many
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: first half leads, what are the coaches doing at halftime?
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: What are they not doing? What are the opponents coaching
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: doing at halftime to make the adjustments to be able
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: to stop them and to be able to come back
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: against them. So I put a lot of that on
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: coaching because if you, you know, you obviously coached well
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: in the first half because you have the lead, what
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: did you change or what did the other team change
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: to come bat you to be able to come back
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: on you in the second half?
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 8: Great points, Katy all right, Marvin Candy hit it on ahead.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 8: Halftime is all about adjustment. It's all about adjustments, and yeah,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 8: this is a football is a game of chess. You know,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 8: you get out there at these big old brutes and
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 8: you see, you know, you see you see them beat
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 8: each other up. But it's a chess match, man, Believe me.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 8: It is a lot of a lot of details, and
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 8: and those halftime of adjustments are everything. So what you're
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 8: seeing is the Ravens being out coached at halftime and
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 8: in that moment, and it's it's showing up in the
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 8: scoreboard and it's consistent and it's so there's a problem there.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 8: And with that said, it doesn't help when you know
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 8: when your two time m v p UH, you know,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 8: in regards to this year, your two times m v
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 8: p UH isn't playing, and that your your top six
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 8: highest paid players are not playing. That's tough. You know,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 8: it's tough to win in the NFL, in the salary
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 8: cap NFL where your six highest paid players are on
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 8: the bench. So listen until they get healthy, specifically specifically
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 8: at quarterback, this could be really ugly. And regardless of
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 8: aim I mentioning to get in the first half, if
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 8: they're getting out coach like this and they don't have
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 8: their quarterback and they don't have the top six guys
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 8: they're paying. This could be very ugly for Baltimore. And
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 8: you can see the conversation of Harborough getting out of there.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about it, Jacob he Candy, I can
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: sort of answer this for you.
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  Speaker 9: Whatsoever? You got to remember why is he blowing so
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 9: many Look at the game plan they have for Lamar
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 9: by itself, which looks awesome. First quarter, second quarter, stuff
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 9: like that. There go twenty eight fourteen, let's just say
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 9: that kind of thing. At a halftime, they look great.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 9: In the middle of all that movement, he gets fifteen
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 9: minutes to rest. That's not enough for what he's doing.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 9: That's not enough of what he's doing for that kind
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 9: of deal. And then they're asking him to do the
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 9: same game plan. Meanwhile, the defense has probably put a
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 9: spy on it. Meanwhile, he's now gonna throw. Meanwhile, all
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 9: that stuff happens, especially with teams to get with KC, Buffalo,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 9: all those ones they can just wait and hold. And
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 9: that's why the deal is. It's like it's when Greg
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 9: Roman was there. I always used to say Greg Roman
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 9: was Techno super Bowl when it came to Lamar. He
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 9: had four plays, the same four plays over and over
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 9: because everything was fun to watch. But these are the
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 9: these are the issues that they have, whatsoever is And
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 9: the same thing happened used to happen to a lesser
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 9: extent with Michael Vick. It's like once he was so
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 9: great against a lot of teams, Once he played Chicago,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 9: Tampa Bay or Philadelphia, they just threw a spy on
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 9: him and he was dead. He won absolutely zero of
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 9: those games. Are those type of games, whatsoever. And once
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 9: you have a certain game plan that you can be
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 9: able to get, you can wait till they tire out.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 9: You can wait till they get to their weakness. And
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 9: that's what's happening. And John Harball, I think he is
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 9: a pretty darn good coach. He's been for a good
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 9: long time. But he got one of the biggest things.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 9: He got cocky with this kind of he got cocky
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 9: with this kind of this kind of talent I liked.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 9: I liked Lamar. I like when they used to I
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 9: used to get insulted when they compared to Lamar to
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 9: Michael Vick. Is I always thought he was way better
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 9: than Michael Vick. He is that skilled. But he got
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 9: cocky with that, and he just keeps with that same
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 9: game plan over and over. Does that change it up?
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: Okay, George, that's a very good point, Jacob. You're right.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: You've got to change up. You've got to adapt in
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: the NFL. You can't just keep throwing the same thing
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: out there. Listen, I'm not gonna blame Lamar. I mean,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: you know, in four games, I mean he's got ten touchdowns,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: one interception. I mean, he's still pretty good on past
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: average nine yards a pass. The running game is not there,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: like you said earlier, and you know, Baltimore, I mean,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: this is to me, this is shocking. I really they
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: had a tough schedule, no question about it, but I
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: expected a lot more out of them. They still can
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: salvage this, but boy o boy, they're going to have
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: to solve issues and they're gonna have to diversify that
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: offensive scheme defense, and they got tightened that up for sure.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: So it's a very surprising stat I didn't think they
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: were going to start out one and four, Scott, but
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: they have.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: Well it's definitely a mass but you know, we're gonna
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: share with the Baltimore team a little bit, but we're
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: gonna the final football. Now Tommy's going to do his
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: thing with the Shanahan report. Okay, I want to make
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: sure Tommy Ditch is due on that, because you're the
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: weal of a job.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 7: Whip it.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, but let's talk about the Baltimore Ravens, but in
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: a different way. The Detroit Lions in primetime drew twenty
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: two million, eight hundred and seventeen thousand versus the Ravens,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: the most watched Monday night game since two thousand and six.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: Get that unbelievable. You talk with the Lion made a draw.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: My goodness, Tommy Day twenty two million and get one,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: and we'll take it a step further. The Detroit Lions
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: are twelve and two and then primetime games under head
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: coach and Campbell.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: And were they.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: Playing on Sunday night at Kansas City in prime time
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: on NBC. My goodness, these numbers don't lie. I can't
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: make them up. I know where my research is. Twenty
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: two million, eight hundred and seventeen thousand did get you
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of numbers in the lottery. If that isn't
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: good enough, Dan Campbell is twelve and two, Mark gets
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: you a few more they's called a pre digit number
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: of people. Tommy, what's your take about the Lions in
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: prime time? They're definitely good watch, aren't they.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 6: Well, Detroit has always been a great sports town, and
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 6: then Michiganers been migrating across the country for a half
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: century since the decline of the auto industry. So you
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 6: got Michigan, you got Michigan fans everywhere, Detroit fans everywhere.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 6: The Lions have also been a captivating team with Dan Campbell,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 6: and they've for ways and so they were.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 7: Down for so long.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 6: It's surprising from that standpoint, But if you know the
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 6: history of Detroit teams to attract national interest, it's not
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 6: surprising from that standpoint.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: Katy, I'm gonna I'm gonna say, except for the NFC
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: North fans, I think a lot of other fans out
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: there know the rise of the Lions, that they have improved, improved,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: and they've been an underdog for so long that I
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: think they have a lot of fan base out there
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: that they're gonna root for their team. But then they're
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: gonna root for the Lions because they want to see
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: them do well because they haven't had the history of
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: doing as well. Yes, these last couple of years they have. Now,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: I will say I don't think that a lot of
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: the other NFC North teams are thinking that way, But
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of the other fans of a
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: lot of the other teams, Detroit might be their second
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: team that they're rooting for because they've been such an
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: underdog and they like they can relate to Dan Campbell
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: and how he's motivating his team and he's a likable coach,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: and so I think that has a lot to do
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: with it as well.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 8: All right, Uh, I was thinking the exact same thing.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 8: I think. I think the casual football fan likes Dan Campbell.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 8: I think they like that blue collar grit, you know, guy.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 8: I think I think that that football, that old school
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 8: football coach. You know, he gives you a little Mike Dick.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 8: He gives you a little bit of you know, the
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 8: eighties Chuck. He's just he's a he's a tough guy
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 8: and he's uh, he's simple, and he's successful. He's successful.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 8: I think people like that, you know. It's it's so
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 8: much different from what you get, you know, uh, compared
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 8: to you know, the coach in Miami or from Belichick
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 8: or you know, it's a little bit of Mike Tomman.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 8: I think I think there's a little bit of Mike
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 8: Tomlin and him. So in Detroit, listen, we we we
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 8: love on Underdog. We love a comeback story with that question.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 8: In Detroit is somebody who you know back in the
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 8: fifties there they they had a team back in the fifties,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 8: but they're they are the hot new thing and Detroit
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 8: is becoming a fan favorite.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 5: I think Jacob, you have a good point on this.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 9: Marvin. And here's the thing I've let me say this
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 9: about like I was saying with Detroit and I was
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 9: taking to this with Miami. It's called must see TV.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 9: Detroit is must see TV, but every bit of Detroit
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 9: is a must see TV. You have a badass coach
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 9: with a huge arms, who looks who looks like he
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 9: looks like he's gonna beat up every referee gives him
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 9: the wrong to call, and then you've got this exciting
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 9: offense and this then pretty rugged defense and everything goes right.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 9: And they are photogenic and their and their jerseys and
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 9: their uniforms are cool. Everything looks cool. It's bright on TV.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 9: It looks nice, and in truth, the Miami Dolphins are
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 9: a Dan Campbell away as far as because it's South Beach.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 9: They just got a shrimpy little They got a shrippy
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 9: little the Harvard guy or whatever and sweats doing their thing.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 9: He's not very photogenic. He's tiny. You know, it's the
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 9: refereence could beat him up and put him in a closet.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: Hey, Jacob, just let me tell you one thing. Once
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: upon a time, Dan Campbell was the interim coach on Dolphins.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: Was five and seven wasn't good enough?
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly. But that's but that's the but that's the
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 9: thing I'm bringing. It's like they are the Dan Campbell
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 9: away like bringing. But the reason Detroit gets those they
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 9: must see TV bright. I mean they it's like, like you said,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 9: everything about him looks good. They're fun to watch.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: I'll say one thing. Turnover to George and Tommy gets
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: the Shanahan Report number one. Mike to Rico, you're in
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: for a treat because you didn't because you remember the
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: last time you did this matchup. Oh that they would
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: have had Travis Kelts, they would have won. Guess what
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: they have Travis Kelce. Mike to Rico, back air, let's
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: redo it again. So I have a feeling of line
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: we'll win. Yes, you're right, and number to name me
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: one coach in this league that has an Applebee's commercial
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: and does it as well as Dan Damble.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 5: Nobody, people, nobody. But I'll tell you what.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: I salute to Tommy for hanging in there for those
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: extra few minutes, even though I said an hour. But
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: he's been a trooper. But we had to get the
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: football stuff in because he's not in time to pick.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: And I appreciate you saying on a little bit longer, Timmy.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: But now the Shanahan Report brought to you, boy, Tom,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: go ahead.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, go to my website, Tom Shanahan and don report
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 6: and you can learn about my books. What I want
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 6: to mention before I signed off is I was scrolling
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 6: through Twitter today and Awful Announcing had a post about
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 6: how North Carolina and Hulu canceled their documentary series because
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: North Carolina is a dumpster fire. Of course, there's no
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: story to tell, but Awful Announcing put on the Twitter
• 1:26:00
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• 1:26:06
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• 1:26:10
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• 1:26:11
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• 1:26:16
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• 1:26:19
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• 1:26:23
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• 1:26:31
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• 1:26:35
  Speaker 6: Bar Bryant was a follower, not a leader. Everything. Almost
• 1:26:41
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• 1:26:47
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• 1:26:50
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• 1:26:53
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• 1:26:57
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  Speaker 1: this and saying on a little bit longer than initially.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Tommy. All Right, so there are five of us.
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  Speaker 1: What's left. We're gonna talk a little bit of NBA
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  Speaker 1: and that's that's okay. To sant Antonio's first hire.
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  Speaker 4: You forgot you forgot me about the Lions.
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  Speaker 5: Oh that's right. Well, we had to get time in there.
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  Speaker 5: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, what can we say the Lions fans
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 4: have suffered for so long. Those numbers are huge, huge following.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: Uh as you mentioned Scott on the national telecast of
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 4: Sunday Night Football and Monday Night. They're going to be
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 4: on against Tampa in a couple of weeks. And you know,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 4: all these prime time love, it's all prime time love.
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  Speaker 4: But I agree with what's been said. You know, people
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 4: identifying with coach, they're identifying with the players. Uh, you
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 4: know Stafford and golf and that whole story, you know,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 4: and and uh Saint Brown being way down in the
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 4: draft pecking order. There's great stories there, Hutchinson. So yeah,
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 4: it is. Somebody joked what a couple of weeks ago
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: and says, is a Hawaiians the New America's team. Well,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 4: the numbers are showing that they might just be.
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  Speaker 1: See, George got to double those of my town tonight.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: I gave him a I threw him a bone with
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: the Tigers and he got the Lions.
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  Speaker 5: That I go on. You'all feel pretty good. Keep up
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  Speaker 5: the good research might throw you.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 5: Now we're going to the NBA.
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  Speaker 1: Then we have some a couple of bone or basketball
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  Speaker 1: topics when I want to tell me to do what
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: he had to do, and we'll go to San Antonio's
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: first hired assistant, Mitch Johnson as a franchise head coach
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: outoger for interim coach Greg Popovich in November, obviously the
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: top of his successor. I still think Becky Hammond should
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: have gotten a job. That's just my opinion, and we've
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: talked about it before. Nevertheless, what they're able to do
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: is maintain continuity to with the line laid up I
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: Popovich and CEO R. C. Bufort, as well as GM
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: Bryant Wright who was hired in the same twenty sixteen season,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: and Johnson.
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  Speaker 5: Some thoughts about this.
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  Speaker 8: Marvin, Listen, we've been talking about culture all night, Duke.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 8: You know, being able to have continuity and being able
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 8: to have a real good exchange and how important that
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 8: is for culture. You know, I mentioned Green Bay quarterback situation.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 8: They've had farvarand Rogers. You know, they got that position
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 8: right and it's crucial. You know, Steelers, Pittsburgh Steelers and
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 8: their coaches, you know, so the San Antonio Spurs are
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 8: an organization who have gotten it right for a long time.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 8: I absolutely think this is the move. I don't listen.
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  Speaker 8: I'm not a San Antonio fan. I don't even know
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 8: this coach, but I trust their culture. So this is
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 8: the right move and I look forward to seeing what
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  Speaker 8: they do with Winmbin Yama.
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  Speaker 9: Jacob, you said, who'd you say, miss Johnson? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 9: you know. The big thing is the big thing is
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 9: you got to remember something I wanted Becky Hammond also.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 9: But the one thing that san Antonio knew all these years,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 9: and as we're saying fan players and everything is consistency.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 9: They had pop for so long. You don't want one
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 9: year and out. It absolutely, I mean I talked to
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 9: San Antonio fans at the time. It shocked San Antonio
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 9: fans that Tim Duncan was one game and out. As
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 9: far as coach, it shocked them because they thought he
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 9: would have a he would be the one that bypassed
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 9: even think that thought he had one. He had one game,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 9: one win, and that's his career. So they're so used
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 9: to that consistency that you know, all that kind of stuff,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 9: so you have to build it. The thing about Webbin
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 9: Yama that worries me, though, Marvin. The one thing that
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 9: worries me is that he doesn't have the regular usual
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 9: injuries that seven to five guy has. He's had he
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 9: had blood clots. Will those hold up? Will those hold up?
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 9: I mean get that. I mean we saw from an old,
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 9: much older man with dion He's had to have a
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 9: four hour surgery and it's like and he and may
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 9: mean this is a twenty one and twenty twenty one
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 9: year old that had to take three months off something
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 9: along those lines, something like those like last year because
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 9: of blood cuts. Those aren't easy. Will it hold off?
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  Speaker 8: We're gonna find out. I don't know, but that is relevant, Jacob,
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 8: that is relevant.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Candy, I know we all, I mean, you guys
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: have talked about Becky Hammond getting the job. I'm not
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: sure the NBA is ready to have a female as
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: a head coach yet. I just don't. I just don't know.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: Popovich brought him Johnson in for a reason. Heir apparent
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: coach him, mentor him. I hate that was their game plan.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: Uh when will we see? Uh? Now, I will say this,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: I think Becky Hammond was qualified to be a head
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 3: coach in the NBA. But again, I'm just not convinced
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: that the NBA is ready for that. I mean, let's
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: let's face it. Even Don Staley said talked about that
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: when she didn't get hired either.
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  Speaker 9: So yeah, but Candy, let me say this, Don Stanley
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 9: is a phenomenal college coach. She is a phenomenal college coach.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 9: I mean, Becky Hammond has not only has she done
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 9: done pro, she's done pro men and won them. Yeah,
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 9: it's like and it's like if they're I mean even
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 9: it was almost an insult to me to see them
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 9: in an interview Don Stale. It's not because of her
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 9: coaching ability, that's absolutely not. It's just the fact. It's
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 9: just the fact that it's like pros in college is
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 9: completely a different man, but a breed of animal, and
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 9: men and women are different animal. And they just put
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 9: that in And it's like, if you're not ready to
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 9: put Becky Hammon when somebody, when she has already won
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 9: even a minor title with men, then you're ready for
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 9: no one, You're ready. You're not ready for anybody to
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 9: do it. If you're not going to for a woman
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 9: for a that because she is the most qualified, she's
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 9: the only qualified one.
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  Speaker 3: I agree.
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  Speaker 5: I agree.
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  Speaker 9: So that's just their thing. It's like it just shows
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 9: whatsoever why they put them. Here's the thing you put
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 9: Don Staley and this is the thing. You picked them wrong.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 9: And I don't think Becky Hamm is wrong because she
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 9: has people that knew her and she could have done
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 9: that job. If you picked the wrong woman to do
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 9: this with this type of deal, remember kim ink situation.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 9: We talked about this last week with Miami and literally
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 9: got to a playoffs and they tried to get her
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 9: help and then she's out and they've been horrible since
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 9: they did. They insulted her. And look if they put
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 9: if what if they put Don Staley and she bombed
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 9: with the Knicks, especially that close to the NBA finals.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 9: I mean, you're not gonna see another woman for a
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 9: very long time. We're already not seeing it in the
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 9: in the major leagues. So this has to be the
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 9: right choice when you do it.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: So, Mike, I'm partial for the Detroit Lions. Okay, all right,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: So I'll we'll turn over the George last word and
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: have one more WNBA topic and when you get to well,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll have time for fund It's fundit and
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: two non sports topics as well. There won't be that complicated.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: Dull George, what's your thoughts on this higher.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 4: I think it's a good one. You know, similar to
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: what we talked about the beginning of the show with
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 4: Duke's Mike Shershsky. You know, the situation is in the
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 4: pros is obviously not the same as college. But you know,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 4: Johnson was a former player, okay, number one, number two
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: when he was the G League coach, they won the
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 4: title and that was called the Austin Spurs, and then
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 4: they added him to the coaching staff I believe in
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 4: twenty nineteen there at San Antonio, and so he's had
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 4: time to work with George, and I really do think
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 4: that I'm sorry, Greg, excuse me, I'm George. I think
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 4: he said some time, he's gotten to know the players,
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 4: He's gotten to know a lot of the younger players,
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 4: being with the G League as he was, and so
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, yeah, he deserves an opportunity here,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 4: and you know, Papa bitch, big huge shoes to fill.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 4: I agree with what you guys said about him, and
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 4: I wish you would have got it too, But I
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 4: think Mitch Johnson deserves this and let's see, let's see
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 4: what he can.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: Do, George, there was a there was a term on
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: that last so called punch drunk.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 5: Maybe as you get later in this.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: Thing, you get yeah, yeah, all right, well anyways, sorry, Jacob,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: let me get to a w NBA topic.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 5: You know it's good for you.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: So I get punted in here shortly, okay, and that's
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: this front office George reporters. The w NBA brooke their
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: season season record. Actually they did it in August set
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: in two thousand and two a two point four million fans.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: This number was still nearly a was a month ago.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: Candy want to come up with the final number. Nevertheless,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: they still broke it with a month ago in the year. Margaret,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: does that tell you about the popular and the growth
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: in the league? I know they make the bargaining agreement
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: to work out, but and Harold, I don't know if
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: you heard me, but lions on parcel for them ahead, Marvin.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 8: No, they need it. They need it because the numbers
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 8: were horrible and the w n b A wasn't really
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 8: getting the viewers and the attendance, uh that people thought,
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 8: you know. So the fact that they're a month out
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 8: and they're breaking records and they're doing this with Caitlyn
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 8: Kark on the bench. Uh, you know, because they put
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 8: a lot of that on her, and she is she's
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 8: a huge part of that, I think as a whole.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 8: But you know that's significant. You know, these these players
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 8: want to be paid more. As you said, they're heading
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 8: into the the c b A and uh, there's there's
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 8: a lot of uh, there's a lot of state for
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 8: these for these for these young ladies. There really is.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 8: So for them to get their numbers up and to
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 8: show that they're able to fill the stands or bring
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 8: people in. Uh, for them to be able to have
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 8: some kind of viewership. You know. I don't know what
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 8: they're merch is, but any positive, anything, any positivity in
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 8: regards to any of the metrics for them is good.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 8: And right now, you know, it's looking like they'll have
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 8: some type of leverage in these agreements, I guess. So, yeah,
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 8: it's good. I'm happy to see it, you know, And
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 8: I'm looking forward to seeing Kaitlyn get healthy and play
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 8: again and looking forward to seeing Angel and in a
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 8: year from now.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 5: Juju Watkins, great soft eld. Glad you got me. Okay,
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 5: that wasn't sure? All right? So yeah, Angel Reese another
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: fates of the w n B. All right, clear in mind,
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 5: Jacob pund pundit is on the line, just kidding.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you're good, You're no. That's the big thing about
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 9: it is Kathy Engelberg just made the worst mistake in
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 9: the world. So, I mean, they've they've gotten these they've
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 9: gotten these numbers. Don't get this wrong. I mean, Caitlyn
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 9: did start up, but give them credit. They got these numbers,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 9: you know what I mean, they got these numbers to
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 9: further the league. So they've got that OS leverage. But
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 9: when she they'll win. The Collier is a Collier. A Collier, Yeah,
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 9: the Pisa Collier basically was talking about I mean she
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 9: with the End of the Year. With the End of
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 9: the Year interview, Kathy Engelbert says that it's like, well,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 9: the Kitlyn should be thankful that the w that gave
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 9: her the platform to make sixteen million dollars. And I'm like,
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 9: are you out of your mind? Yeah, it's like literally,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 9: I mean it's just I mean, she started everything. What
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 9: we see on is the piece of Collier admits it,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 9: basically admits it. She was not happy to hear that,
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 9: and it's like, I will gonna make a prediction. I
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 9: think kn'thy Engelbert has to go before there's even any
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 9: kind of deal. I think there's gonna be a lot.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 9: I think it's gonna be gone. They're not gonna play,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 9: they're not gonna they're not going to train, they're not
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 9: gonna do anything. They're gonna they will leave before she
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 9: gets back there. I think she's gonna have to go now.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised that it happened soon. I've been
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: reading the tea leaves on that. All right, Candy, so
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: up paid here. Then we have Georgia and I have
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: a couple of non sports I want to get to.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 5: They'll get one. Wanted to wrap up the show, like, Candy,
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 5: what are you at?
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at it because I've found two different figures.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 3: So they were saying that they eclipsed three million. The
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: last time they outdrew back in two thousand and two
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: was the second highest, but they had six sixteen teams
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 3: then and they only have thirteen teams now. I can
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 3: say that a lot of it has to do with
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 3: all these name players that we're all we're hearing about now,
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 3: and yes we did we have the distractions, but I
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 3: think distractions also brought more attention to the WNBA.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 8: You know, yes, the.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark, Yes she was injured for part, but bringing
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 3: her in and bringing Angel reeson and some of these names,
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: and some of these names have good marketing teams because
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: they also have their own lines of whether it be
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 3: a shoe or whatever it is. But they're doing they're
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 3: doing it the right way. So kudos to them for
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: breaking their single season record.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 4: Okay, George, Yeah, I mean, you know, I think they're
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 4: going about it the right way. I agree with what
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 4: you guys said. I mean, anytime you can get ABC
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 4: and ESPN and you know CBS is doing games and
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 4: other networks, I mean, I think it's a good thing.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 4: And I think attendance is being driven by these stars
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 4: that you've already mentioned. So I mean, the television ratings
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 4: are going to be great. They instand attendance. I know
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 4: it's not comparable to the professions the professionals in the NBA,
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 4: but don't forget the w n b A has not
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 4: been around as long, but now they're finally getting more
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 4: notoriety because of these stars that are coming out of
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 4: college and and going right into the w n b
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 4: A and it's great, great, it's a great show, and
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 4: it's a great, great value for your price. If you
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 4: want to take your family to a wa NBA game,
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 4: I heck them a lot cheaper than going to the NBA.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 5: How would you know, because you get press passes. Sick
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 5: to man, don't worry about it.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, I know, all right, Tom, all right, while you're ahead, Icorn,
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: all right, but I agree with you. I corns right.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: I'm just like I haven't given him a hard time
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: much lately because he's been good, So all right, it's okay,
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: all right, Well, don't don't forget Sophie Cunningham. She she
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: knows how to knock a few people around here to
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: protect Caitlin Clark, who I consider. Yeah, the league, and
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: of course we know payd Beckers is gone have a
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: future part of it.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 5: But I'll go ahead, Marmur anything you want to add
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 5: to it.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 8: Not all all good points, you know I spoke earlier.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 8: It's a situation where it's great for the players. They
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 8: need as many fans and a reason to get paid
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 8: because this CBA is going to control the next decade
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 8: and you know they need a good deal.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: So all right, non sports compic time here. We'll save
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: them to the end. A man who bought an airline
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: ticket lifetime passes saved two point three seven mill million
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: dollars and travel over twenty million miles. Not too bad,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: Marvin good this. I'm telling you airline lifetime paths that
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: say two point three seven million dollars and travel twenty
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: million miles.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 5: I can handle that. What about you, Mark Man?
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 8: That's a that's a serious deal. How much did he pay?
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: Let's see, he saved two point three seven million and
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: travel over twenty million. That's the most of my information.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: But an airline pants, I don't have that information. But
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: no mo, she digs up everything. Anyways, all right, take it?
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 5: What do you think?
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: Not a bad way to travel? You can say two
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: point three seven million bucks.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 9: I don't know what I mean. I understand, No, I
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 9: understand the whole thing. And then they threw a bit
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 9: and pull it away, and I'm like, that's your guy's fault.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 9: Just take it, so let him do it till he dies.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 9: It's like, oh, we're saving our money. No, you did this.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 9: You gotta you need to eat it.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 5: Anything can I'm working on a getting all.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: Right, George go ahead while our crack. The researcher goes
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: in digs it up.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 4: Oh, there's some big money. You had big travel dollars.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 4: But no, I hey, I think it's doing the right thing.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 4: You know. Those miles accumulate, you know, and stuff like that,
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 4: and the airlines. But you know, I don't travel much,
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 4: as you know, so I don't get to take advantage
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 4: of those. But this is a really crafty thing. I
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 4: think that's pretty pretty cool.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 5: I like that guy good Candy.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: So he's the world Okay. His name is Tom Stucker.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: He's also known as the twenty four million mile Man.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 3: Back in nineteen ninety, he bought a lifetime pass on
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 3: United Airlines for him and a companion for five hundred
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 3: and ten thousand dollars. The pass allows him to fly
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: first class anywhere anytime. He actually doesn't own a car
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: because he uses his points for the airlines to rent
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 3: cars instead. He's he let's see with recent travels, was
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 3: out of Newark Airport. Flyers can take some advice from
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 3: a man who has flown out of New Jersey facility
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 3: more than eight thousand times. Is the world's most frequent flyer,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 3: owns a golden ticket.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the golden ticket people in the sports exchange safeties.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: I love these non sports topics. So if you like
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: this one, I got another one in Candy. Ought to
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: know the person that we're dealing with here, because AI
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: is changing the world we live in work. JP Morgan
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: CEO believes it won't just be business.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 5: Assume me.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: It won't be business more. It'll make more. It won't
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: make business more efficient. It could also give people better
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: work life balance. The next generation of employees work three
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: and a half days a week to live one hundred
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: years old. Oh, three and a half days a week
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: isn't so bad one hundred years old.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 5: No way getting there.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: I told you, yes, I have a great caretaker. On
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: another thing, but all right, Jacob, you just talked about
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: it first. Here we're talking about a three and a
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: half day work week. The JP Morgan j CEO and
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: don't want to mention his name at all, but those
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: of you that want to research it.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 5: Go ahead and do it. Three and a half day
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 5: work week? Can you handle it? Do you do it?
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 5: Of course?
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 9: It's like absolutely no. But the big thing about it
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 9: is for all of that that they're talking about, AI
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 9: is gonna take away so many other jobs too. So
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 9: one of the things that's gonna come with this now
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 9: is it's they're gonna see We're gonna see people. We're
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 9: gonna see people with the more competitive, the most competitive
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 9: mindsets get it to get these jobs now, because it's
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 9: gonna get more with I mean, there won't be any
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 9: more fast food job for kids, there won't be more
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 9: a lot of construction jobs will be gone. It will
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 9: be a lot of AI, Bobby Robotic, a lot of stuff.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 9: So every job that people get getting out of college
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 9: now will be nothing but highly competitive. So that's I mean, yeah,
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 9: you're gonna get your three and a half days a week,
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 9: but you're also gonna get the best of the very best,
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 9: because it's it's gonna be not even just from college.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 9: It's gonna be it's gonna be a lot of different
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 9: playing to try to get people's attention.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think AI is going to impact
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 8: every aspect of our life. U three and a half
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 8: day work week, you know. So I think that's that
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 8: comes down to the individual. I think there's so many
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 8: side hustles and different opportunities to make money. I think
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 8: people are gonna be working, you know, five seven days anyway,
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 8: regardless of what you know, opportunities come from AI. I
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 8: think that the American hustle on American culture is what
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 8: it is. And I think people trying to get money.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 8: So you know, I don't think people will be satisfied
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 8: with three and a half days when they've been trained
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 8: to work for five days. So you know. But but
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 8: you know, for for those for those who want to
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 8: play golf and chill, uh and they need more to
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 8: mental health, stay at home, whatever may be works well.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 8: And maybe AI is going to help us in regards
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 8: to mental health by taking us out of the workplace
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 8: and gave against more free time.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: We'll see the Earl kids, he said, you know, having
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: fun on this positive cast because MP three you are
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: the best or any casters is totally awesome. Sorry you
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: were old, So I have an MP three player.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 5: Look us up.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: We get out there, ask Earl Kizzie. He's the biggest
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: fan of the night, the fan of the night, Earl
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: Kisie for being on the program. All right, who I left?
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: Who wants to get a piece of this action?
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 5: Praise your hand? Go ahead, George.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 4: Three and a half work days a week. Wow, that
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 4: sounds like a lot of fun. I don't think it's
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 4: gonna happen anytime soon. I know that these statistics say
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 4: it might. But there's a lot of people now that
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 4: are mad because they had to go back to the office.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 4: They were after COVID as you know, they were all
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 4: working at home, a lot of them, and now they're
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 4: being called back to work. And there's a lot of
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 4: complaints about, uh, the bosses bringing them back. But come on,
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 4: you know, well, the thing is is that, yeah, the
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 4: whole world is going through a different kind of work routine,
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 4: if you will, and stay at home is increasing. But
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 4: to be able to just work three and a half days,
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to be a universally accepted
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna leave it at that.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 5: All right, And he thought, Candy, you want to leave alone?
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 3: No, I'll I have thoughts. There are other countries that
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 3: are already doing it. There are other countries that are
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 3: doing it and it's successful. Now. Is AI going to
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 3: change things around here? Absolutely? But I've been in the
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 3: same industry for over thirty thirty three years now. My
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 3: industry has changed, Scott, your industry has changed. You wrote
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 3: a book about how your industry has changed, and that
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: doesn't have to do with AI. So yes, things are
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 3: going to change. That's just the nature of us and
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 3: technology progressing.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 3: The one thing I will say, as long as you
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, we know about it now. So you start
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 3: to prepare you you know, as as kids in school,
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 3: as long as they start to prepare for jobs that
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 3: they want to have that they think are gonna be like,
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 3: there's gonna be jobs out there. They're just different. They're changing.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: Jacob, you already commented on this. Yeah, first one, good,
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: you get go ahead, Jacob Marvin. You're gonna partly be
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: a part of this, least the first part. Okay, I'm
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: gonna ask you this. How long did you play in
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: the NFL?
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 8: Three years?
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 9: Okay, did any time whatsoever at any time did you
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 9: see anybody on your offensive side dropped the ball before
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 9: the end zone?
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 8: No? I thought, So.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 9: That's my This is so recent. This is going to Amari.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 9: This is going to be Amri, Dave Occato and ed
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 9: Ni Mitchell and all the rest of the morons that
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 9: keep doing this.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 5: They.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 9: I mean, I was so mad when I heard you
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 9: out and game and had to pay a fine and
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 9: do the apology, which he got a fine anyway for
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 9: that ridiculous, But go when he was actually doing a
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 9: little bit that he was doing a little bit of coaching. Okay,
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 9: Kenny slack, one who cares. Derek Collie should have been out,
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 9: He should have been lucky. They were at home so
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 9: they could drive home. So should and Mitchell and Mitchell
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 9: should have walked home he was on the road. What
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 9: is going on with people? Over and over and all?
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 9: I mean, all of these players dropping the ball. They're
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 9: dropping the ball at the goal line. Why huh?
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 8: They're getting ready for the celebration dance.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 9: I school and college does this crap too? And heck
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 9: I've seen him when they're two yards before the end
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 9: zone doing this crap. The big thing is I'm gonna
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 9: I'm mad that John Deangin got I'm mad that he
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 9: got fined. I'm mad that that he had they had
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 9: the forced apology like he was like he was a hostage,
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 9: kind of like Jalen Rose. I'm kind of mad at
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 9: that part. But at the same time, where's your leadership
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 9: at all? Because it happens each and every one of
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 9: these happens to each every time. I can say this
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 9: part there are specific coaches we know in this league
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 9: that that's never gonna happen. They know they're gone. I
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 9: don't ever, I don't have one memory of happening with
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 9: Andy Reid team. If I if I, if I'm wrong,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 9: if I'm wrong, you can get that. But it's like
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 9: you can you can tell me, but I don't have
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 9: any memory of this. I don't have. There's many coaches
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 9: I can name it, and I can tell you the
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 9: old coaches that definitely wouldn't have happened.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 8: Well, I think it did happen. Wasn't DeShawn Jackson on
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 8: Andy uh on Andy's team in Philly when he ran
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 8: that pump?
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 9: He was the first one, wasn't he? I think so
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 9: he was the first first. Then I'll tell you one thing.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 9: If that was the case, it was the last time. Yeah,
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 9: I haven't seen anybody in case doing They're winning super
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 9: Bowls right this and these this is where I'm this
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 9: is where we're at here. It's like, are we are
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 9: how many of the players, let's get a percentage, how
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 9: many of the players are actually caring about going to
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 9: the Super Bowl? Because I was here, one of the
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 9: things I heard was that I was hearing about how
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 9: contracts work in the NFL. I heard it from Julian Edelman.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 9: He was talking about how they he'll talk about did
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 9: you ever buy way in your three years? Did you
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 9: make the playoffs?
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 8: Never?
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 9: Okay, he said, during the playoff time, you're if you're
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 9: in a buy. If you're in a buy, you're not
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 9: getting You're doing all the same work and not getting
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 9: paid at all. And that was during the contracts. And
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 9: these are the things like it makes me wonder how
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 9: many of these people actually they are they just trying
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 9: to get out there and trying to show them get on, TikTok,
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 9: get on. They are they trying to do all stuff
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 9: and make the most money or do they care about winning?
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 8: And they all go ahead, No, no, well they all
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 8: they all want to win, man, they all want to win.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 8: We we live in a digital age. We live in
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 8: an age where these guys can make more money in
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 8: different ways. And that's what you're seeing. You're seeing, you're
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 8: seeing the evolved businessman from the from the athletes and
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 8: just wanting to without saying earlier, you know, get other hustles.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 8: We were talking about a three and a half day
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 8: work week and I was like, Nah, people who want
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 8: to get money are going to find ways to get money.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 8: You know, they want to work more than that. So
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 8: that's all we're seeing is this. You know how business
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 8: has evolved, uh with technology, and you know, social media
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 8: has impacted every single industry. And these NFL players are
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 8: you know, some of the biggest stars in the world.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 8: They're on the biggest stage. We're talking about, you know,
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 8: twenty two million people watching a single football game. So
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 8: they're a big deal, and they see their opportunities and
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 8: these are the times that we're in.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 9: The third string. I'm just saying, it's a third string
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 9: running back, in third string running back in a second string,
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 9: the wide receiver, we're doing the same darn thing.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 5: We're running out of time.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 9: Man, got finished this quick. This is the thing that
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 9: I was bringing with this. It's the fact that at
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 9: some point and time, it has to be about winning
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 9: if you want to get somewhere. I know what you
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 9: were saying, Marvin, but it has to be about winning.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 9: And some of these coaches, some of these front offices
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 9: have got to figure out and let them go fast
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 9: and then quit this bad habit.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, Candy quick station break everybody to anywhere what they
• 1:55:26
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• 1:55:27
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  Speaker 1: All right, Jacob, just so you know, everybody, Jacob Christianer
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: will be on No Limits with Rachel Galvin and I
• 1:56:24
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• 1:56:26
  Speaker 5: Make it quick, Jacob, How can people find you?
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 9: I'm on Sideline Sports. I'm on Sideline Sports, I am
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 9: Sideline one Sports on TikTok, I'm Jacob Christener on Facebook,
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 9: Jacob Crisner on your score on Instagram. Might make my
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 9: way back to Twitter. Wh I'll let you know. And
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 9: also I'll be on tomorrow night. I'll be I'll be
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 9: on tomorrow night for this thing. And I just all
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 9: and I was on and I was on the show
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 9: just recently on Saturday morn on Sunday morning and stuff
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 9: like that for a football show. Who knows how many
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 9: times it will be on that.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you get around good. But tomorrow night
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: you're gonna really have a good time. I've already got
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: some pretty.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 5: Good to plan. Marvin poul My pupil. I love this guy.
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  Speaker 5: Go ahead, Marrow put it out there.
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  Speaker 8: Brother. You can catch you with The South Florida Tribune
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  Speaker 8: Tuesday nights Wednesday mornings at eleven and then Wednesday nights
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  Speaker 8: at nine. You can also catch me on locked on
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  Speaker 8: usc Mondays and Fridays, and I'm Marvin on the mic.
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  Speaker 8: On social media, George go ahead. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You can follow me at the South Florida Tribune website
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  Speaker 4: on the contributor section. And I wrote a book too,
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  Speaker 4: and at the end of my column, and at the
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  Speaker 4: end of the column is a link rather to purchase
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  Speaker 4: the book. Thank you for the cover shot there, Candy
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  Speaker 4: Detroit sports broadcasters on the air. You can reach me
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  Speaker 4: at GGI corn at yahoo dot com. That's the best way.
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  Speaker 1: I eard Kenzie. You love you too, Pal, and I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you being on the whole time. Great stop Pal
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  Speaker 1: for old Kenzie. I almost feel like we had another
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  Speaker 1: guest down here where they Kenzie. I'm looking forward to
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  Speaker 1: seeing it. I don't come back on, but we love
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  Speaker 1: you all well. We love you too.
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  Speaker 5: Earl. I'll tell you one thing we need more like it.
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  Speaker 1: We need to have a xerox and copy more Earl
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  Speaker 1: Kinzies out there. I don't know what about MP three's anymore,
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  Speaker 1: but I know that there's an Earl kinzie that shows
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  Speaker 1: you what I.
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  Speaker 5: Know about technology. Forget it, We're done.
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  Speaker 3: MP three is Marvin.
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  Speaker 1: Oh oh oh, sorry, Marvin, I didn't see that part.
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  Speaker 8: That's all good.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I thought it was one of those technology things.
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  Speaker 8: Once upon I could, I should have trademarked it years ago,
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  Speaker 8: trust me.
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, Marvin, don't put it down now. I really
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  Speaker 1: feel as one of these old Puerto Ricans to say
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  Speaker 1: el stupid though. That's the league word I ever knew
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  Speaker 1: in Spanish. But I was called el stupid though. So
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  Speaker 1: all right, well you know what MP three Okay, now
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  Speaker 1: that I know what your nickname is, Okay, now instead
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  Speaker 1: of that device that I once thought was technology that
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  Speaker 1: I know nothing about, tell you what, Marvin, I love you, brother,
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  Speaker 1: earl you two and this crew was outstanding. Tom Shanahan,
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  Speaker 1: George I, Corn Katya like Jacob Christner and MP three,
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  Speaker 1: this is a motorm in city.
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  Speaker 7: Ma'am.
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  Speaker 1: We'll thank you for joining us. Well, let's see if
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  Speaker 1: we can do better next Wednesday night. And once again,
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  Speaker 1: if you didn't see our first show, No Limits, take
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  Speaker 1: a look at it tomorrow. No Limits to Jacob is
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  Speaker 1: on as all. Good night, everybody, thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 4: Good night,