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INTERVIEW: Candace Owens On Black America, Congressional Puppets, Donald Trump, Kanye West, T.I. + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that answer up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody is DJ Envy just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy. We
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  Speaker 2: are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in
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  Speaker 2: the building.
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  Speaker 3: They're not gonna like this one.
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  Speaker 2: We have Candas Owens can welcome.
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  Speaker 4: Are you feeling I feel great, A little tired, had
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  Speaker 4: a wedding this weekend, but I always feel great.
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  Speaker 1: Back to New York, you know, originally from here?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I was born in New York, raised in Stanford, and
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  Speaker 4: then lived in New York after university for like seven years,
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  Speaker 4: so I worked just two blocks away from here. What
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  Speaker 4: part of New York did I live in or was born?
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  Speaker 4: I was born in White Plains.
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  Speaker 1: White Plans by the Bronx.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, what is the Candace Orange origin story?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I know I know a little bit of
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  Speaker 5: it because you know me and you actually used to
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  Speaker 5: have a lot of conversations back in the day before
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  Speaker 5: she changed her number.
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  Speaker 3: But he.
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  Speaker 6: Was machine. No, I wouldn't have ignored you. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 6: hader I changed my number.
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  Speaker 4: I tried to do it every couple of years for
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  Speaker 4: what just because because then you collect all these people
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  Speaker 4: that are testing You're like actually I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: talk to this person anymore, but I want to tell
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  Speaker 4: them I don't want to talk to them anymore.
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  Speaker 6: So I just changed my number.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm sure the more you grow, a lot of
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  Speaker 5: your family members hit you up for money and stuff
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  Speaker 5: like that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's usually not family members, just
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  Speaker 4: random people from your past that haven't spoken to you
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  Speaker 4: him forever, but still have your number and we'll text
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  Speaker 4: you and ask for a favor. No, it wasn't him,
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't about him. I actually should have messaged you
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  Speaker 4: my new number.
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  Speaker 3: Where did all of this begin? For Candice Omens?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I feel like I have just a very
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  Speaker 4: regular story, like I said, Like I was born in
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  Speaker 4: New York, raised in Stanford.
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  Speaker 6: There was nothing, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Particularly that stood out in my childhood that made me
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  Speaker 4: think that I was going to go into politics. I
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  Speaker 4: feel like I landed into politics kind of accidentally. And
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  Speaker 4: I say accidentally because I was I thought I was
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  Speaker 4: a liberal my whole life, you know, I thought I
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  Speaker 4: was on the left my whole life and really didn't
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  Speaker 4: pay attention to politics in any meaningful way. And then
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  Speaker 4: you know, when Trump was running for office, I didn't
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  Speaker 4: want to be elected.
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  Speaker 6: I was like this, not.
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  Speaker 4: Because I thought he was a racist or a set
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  Speaker 4: but just because I thought it was crazy to go
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  Speaker 4: from Obama, who had a certain decorum about him too,
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  Speaker 4: suddenly this sort of brash New Yorker. But I thought
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  Speaker 4: it was weird when all of a sudden, the people
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  Speaker 4: that liked Trump, you know, everyone thought he was like
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  Speaker 4: this iconic symbol of business. He was in rap songs,
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  Speaker 4: everybody Trump was, the status flipped on him in one second.
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  Speaker 4: I just didn't I didn't buy the narrative that he
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  Speaker 4: was in the media for three four decades and suddenly
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  Speaker 4: you wanted me to believe overnight.
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  Speaker 6: That he was like Adolf Hitler and a racist.
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  Speaker 4: So I just didn't trust the media's narrative about him,
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  Speaker 4: and so I decided to actually listen to what he said.
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  Speaker 4: I still didn't vote for him in twenty sixteen, but
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to just listen to what he actually said.
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  Speaker 4: And then when I saw what he was saying versus
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  Speaker 4: how it was being reported, I just found it to
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  Speaker 4: be extremely dishonest. So I started researching more, learning more,
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  Speaker 4: and then I got kind of angry.
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  Speaker 6: Like just with the lies, because I do think.
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  Speaker 4: Black Americans are intentionally manipulated emotionally by the media, and
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  Speaker 4: you know, kind of kept dumb but emotional intentionally by.
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  Speaker 6: The school system.
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  Speaker 4: And I started reading up on like Thomas Soul, Shelby Steele,
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  Speaker 4: a bunch of black scholars I originally had dismissed as
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  Speaker 4: Uncle Tom's and you know, irony now as I get
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  Speaker 4: calls an Uncle Tom all the time, so I got
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  Speaker 4: what was coming. But yeah, and then I realized that
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  Speaker 4: actually I've always been a conservative, I just didn't know it.
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  Speaker 4: And economically speaking, of course, the conservative arguments make the
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  Speaker 4: most sense.
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  Speaker 1: Does that bother you that people call you and Uncle Tom?
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  Speaker 4: No, not at all. First off, because if they've read
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  Speaker 4: the book, uncle Tom was the hero. But also because
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  Speaker 4: I get it. You know, how can I fault people
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  Speaker 4: for something that I would have engaged in for the
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  Speaker 4: majority of my life. I thought the same thing about
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  Speaker 4: black conservatives, like I thought it was this betrayal, but
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  Speaker 4: I never actually understood it. It was just an emotional response.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that kind of is if you come
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  Speaker 4: out of the public school system, I can't imagine how
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  Speaker 4: you could be a black conservative when just the way
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  Speaker 4: that they even tell us our own history is just
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  Speaker 4: not true.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 5: Do you think that that's true with most people though,
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  Speaker 5: Like you know, like when you think of a Trump
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  Speaker 5: or just any you're fine with them, but then you
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  Speaker 5: learn like their politics, or you learn what they believe spiritually,
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  Speaker 5: and then you're like, uh, you're turned off from it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't even think it's necessarily the politics. I
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  Speaker 4: really do think the media plays the biggest part in
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  Speaker 4: it because Trump, as far as I know, Trump's been
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  Speaker 4: maybe he used to be a Democrat, but he's been
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  Speaker 4: a Republican and a conservative for a long time. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we know he had been a conservative in terms of economics.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he's wealthy, so you'd be hard pressed to
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  Speaker 4: find someone that's wealthy and you know, advocating for Marxist beliefs.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I just feel like it's more about the
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  Speaker 4: media wants power. The media has a vested interest in
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  Speaker 4: things politically, and they like to make us think that
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  Speaker 4: we're having this open conversation and we're learning the truth
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  Speaker 4: about people. But these are just hatchet smear jobs, libeling people,
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  Speaker 4: and I think diluting a ton of people to turn
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  Speaker 4: against their own best interests.
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  Speaker 5: Were you more anti media as opposed to being pro Trump.
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  Speaker 4: Well, no, I actually, once I actually heard what he
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  Speaker 4: had to say, I was like, that's a pretty solid pitch.
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  Speaker 6: I mean it was his Dimmondale Michigan and speech. Particularly.
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  Speaker 4: He got up there and he just started listing all
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  Speaker 4: of the statistics in Black America in terms of poverty.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, these were just real statistics that he was
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  Speaker 4: talking about. And his pitch was basically like, you've been
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  Speaker 4: giving your vote Democrats for sixty years, why don't you
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  Speaker 4: just try something different? You know, I think that's a
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  Speaker 4: pretty good elevator pitch, Like, hey, you've been doing the
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  Speaker 4: same thing for a long time. I'm not saying I'm amazing,
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  Speaker 4: but why don't we try something different and see if
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  Speaker 4: it gets better for you? And then suddenly I like
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  Speaker 4: flipped over to CNN and it was Don Lemon's like crying.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I think I'm maybe being but it was
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  Speaker 4: just they were so dramatic and they were lying about.
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  Speaker 6: What he said. They're like, he looked you in the
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  Speaker 6: face and told you you were poor. Like I'm like,
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  Speaker 6: that's not what he did at all. So I just
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  Speaker 6: got interested.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a very curious interested person if I can interested
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  Speaker 4: in something I will just take it all away, read books, and.
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, why are they doing this?
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  Speaker 4: Like why are all the media companies that I believed
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  Speaker 4: my whole life just lying about it? Just say what
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  Speaker 4: he actually said and let Black Americans aside for themselves.
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  Speaker 6: If that's a good enough pitch.
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  Speaker 4: They may have said no, I thought it was interesting,
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  Speaker 4: but the lying is something that I think is outrageous.
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  Speaker 6: It's gotten out of control.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's worse now. I think it's worse now
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  Speaker 3: because not.
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  Speaker 5: Only do you have people who will just create the
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  Speaker 5: headlines based off what they feel you said as opposed
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  Speaker 5: to what you said, you have people that have just crayed.
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  Speaker 3: Up, manipulate your audio, manipulate your video just to push narrative.
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  Speaker 4: One of the wildest things, the craziest things that people
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  Speaker 4: say about me all the time. It drives me crazy
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  Speaker 4: because it's literally made up. They're like Candace said, racism
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  Speaker 4: doesn't exist. If you go find that headline of Cannas
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  Speaker 4: has racing doesn't exist. They didn't put it in quotation
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  Speaker 4: marks is I never said it. They were like Candace
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  Speaker 4: said racism doesn't exist because she's quote unquote never been
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  Speaker 4: a slave.
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  Speaker 6: The words never been a slave came out of my mouth.
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  Speaker 4: But I never said racism doesn't exist, and it was
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  Speaker 4: in the context of an entire speech. The media knew
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  Speaker 4: that black people were not going to go watch the
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  Speaker 4: speech or try to find the original speech. They were
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  Speaker 4: just going to read the headline and react and be like,
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  Speaker 4: oh my god, cannasone said racism doesn't exist. Like, how
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  Speaker 4: could she say this. She's a hypocrites, She's a liar.
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  Speaker 4: This happened to her in her childhood.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you fooled you a high school for racism.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's actually not the that's not what happened.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't sue my high school for racism.
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  Speaker 2: But protecting you during that time. I said, right, I
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  Speaker 2: said for not protecting you this I just did. Do
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  Speaker 2: you with the media.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it's fine.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I get it because it's something that I've
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  Speaker 4: talked about at length. But you know, essentially, I had
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  Speaker 4: the situation happened to me in high school where some
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  Speaker 4: of that I was actually best friends with left me
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  Speaker 4: horrific voicemails.
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  Speaker 6: They were racist voicemails. There's no other way to slice it.
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  Speaker 3: They called you because you didn't want to date him.
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  Speaker 4: No, you know, he actually I think he was gay.
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  Speaker 4: To be honest, it was nothing about dating. I think
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  Speaker 4: this was kind of a circumstance of like I had
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  Speaker 4: my first beer, I'll be honest, I got a boyfriend,
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  Speaker 4: and I just stopped hanging out with my friends, very typical.
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  Speaker 6: High school stupid stuff.
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  Speaker 4: And this gay guy that I was friends with was
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  Speaker 4: like outraged by it. And one night he was out
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  Speaker 4: drinking with kids that were way younger than him that
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  Speaker 4: I had never met, and they left me horrific voicemails.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, like bringing in like Rosa Parks. There was
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  Speaker 6: tons of threats. They were just like it was, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: like it was.
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  Speaker 5: It was.
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  Speaker 6: There was no way to slice it, but it was.
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  Speaker 4: They were extremely racist, and it was terrifying toocuse I
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  Speaker 4: didn't know who the phone calls were coming from. Long
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  Speaker 4: story short, one of the kids in the car happened
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  Speaker 4: to be the governor of kind of kid's son. So
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  Speaker 4: it became this sort of overnight political story. And while
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  Speaker 4: it was going on and there were like news cameras
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  Speaker 4: in front of the school, I left school and just
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  Speaker 4: homeschooled for I think it was about six eight weeks
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  Speaker 4: and Basically, we got reimbursed for the time that I
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  Speaker 4: was homeschooling, is what happened. But yeah, so when people
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  Speaker 4: retell that story now, it's like she sued her school
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  Speaker 4: for racism and the NAACP helped her, And I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 4: the NAACP did not help me.
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  Speaker 6: They used my face and my name to fundraise.
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  Speaker 4: For the NAACP, which is actually the reason why I
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  Speaker 4: don't like the NAACP. It's like a very valid reason
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  Speaker 4: because I was a little girl. You know, I was seven, sixteen,
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  Speaker 4: seventeen years old, and it was a really hard situation
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  Speaker 4: to go through as a child. You know, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: like I am now thirty four years old and married
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  Speaker 4: with that support system. It was kind of fame you
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  Speaker 4: don't want, you know. But I'm actually very grateful that
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  Speaker 4: it happened to me because it allowed me to really
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  Speaker 4: consider what the media was. Even though I was still
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  Speaker 4: a liberal, I knew what the media was like, I
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  Speaker 4: knew the media was all about selling a headline.
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  Speaker 6: I knew then.
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  Speaker 4: I got an early lesson in the NAACP. I think
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  Speaker 4: organizations that never want racism to go away because how
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  Speaker 4: they're going to fund raise, Like if you're a CEO
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  Speaker 4: of the NAACP and you're earning excellon Dallas. You got
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  Speaker 4: to keep the racism narrative going on or you're going
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  Speaker 4: to work yourself out of business. So the stuff that
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  Speaker 4: I talk about is always based on my experiences, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, so it's just crazy to see how it
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  Speaker 4: gets manipulated in the press.
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  Speaker 2: Now, you said something earlier, you said that you wanted
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  Speaker 2: to listen to what Trump had to say. Sit in
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  Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, you still didn't vote for him. So looking
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  Speaker 2: at the country now, right, of course this Trump is Biden.
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  Speaker 2: Who do you think is better for our community?
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  Speaker 6: Obviously?
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  Speaker 4: Well, first and foremost, just for everybody. You should have
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  Speaker 4: a president that's, you know, not mentally deteriorating like Biden is.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's he's in full mental deterioration. It's it's
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  Speaker 4: crazy to pretend anything else that's happening right now. That's
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  Speaker 4: it's scary, first and foremost, because we have real enemies
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  Speaker 4: out there, and you have a person that can't lead.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he can't remember what he ate for breakfast,
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  Speaker 4: He's saying things, and the amount of times that he
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  Speaker 4: keeps talking about his dead son as if he's alive,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's very alarming. And I don't say that with
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  Speaker 4: any ill will in my heart either, because he's showing
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  Speaker 4: signs of when my grandfather, who passed a couple of
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  Speaker 4: years ago, started you know, his minds are diminishing and
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  Speaker 4: you start to see those early signs of dementia, the
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  Speaker 4: way he walks, his gait, the way that he's falling.
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  Speaker 4: That this is crazy. Everyone should be outraged, whether you're
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  Speaker 4: on the left or the right. But in terms of
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  Speaker 4: the better candidate for black Americans, I asked you for
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  Speaker 4: the question, how were you living under Trump, the person
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  Speaker 4: that they told you was going to put us back
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  Speaker 4: into chains and we were all going to be slaves again.
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  Speaker 6: How is the economy under Trump? And how are you
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  Speaker 6: doing today?
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  Speaker 4: And every time you asked that question, everyone knows that
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  Speaker 4: they were living better under Trump because he was deregulating
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  Speaker 4: the environment and there were just people were just living
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  Speaker 4: better under Trump. And he is, in my opinion, a
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  Speaker 4: better president because at least he's telling you the truth
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  Speaker 4: and he's telling you what he actually thinks. You know,
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  Speaker 4: one of the things that I hated the most about
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  Speaker 4: him when he first came down the escuator.
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  Speaker 6: I was like, oh, he's way too brash. You know,
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  Speaker 6: Obama sounds way more polite.
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  Speaker 4: But I asked the question, do you want to be
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  Speaker 4: politely lied to or have somebody that's at least telling
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  Speaker 4: you what they think about you in in no uncertain terms. So,
• 11:02
  Speaker 4: you know, I like Trump for a ton of reasons,
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  Speaker 4: and for me, it was always about the economic arguments,
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  Speaker 4: and I knew that he was going to be better
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  Speaker 4: candidate for Black Americans because of that. Especially, you know,
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  Speaker 4: build the Wall sounded so wild right back in twenty sixteen.
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  Speaker 4: It sounded wild, It sounded enophobic, and I was saying,
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  Speaker 4: if these illegals get into the inner city communities, the
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  Speaker 4: first two that are going to be harmed are going
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  Speaker 4: to be Black Americans.
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  Speaker 2: People actually were mad at you right when you got
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: into the conversation with TI at the Revolte Music conference,
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  Speaker 2: right and you were saying that and people didn't understand it.
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  Speaker 2: But it seems like people are understanding what you were
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  Speaker 2: trying to say back then.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I am so happy to have those moments
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  Speaker 4: because like, I think tis a trash person. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I'll say that a thousand times over because first and foremost.
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  Speaker 4: I had spoken to TI prior to that event, Like
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  Speaker 4: TI was the only person on stage that I actually knew,
• 11:46
  Speaker 4: and because for the same reasons that I met you,
• 11:48
  Speaker 4: Kanye had put us in touch. We had talked, and
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  Speaker 4: I know that TI thinks more conservatively, so he was
• 11:52
  Speaker 4: literally putting on a show, and so it just makes
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  Speaker 4: me wonder, especially with all the stuff that like came
• 11:57
  Speaker 4: out in the Diddy lawsuit, like who was controlling Ti?
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  Speaker 6: Because that was wild.
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  Speaker 4: He was literally putting on a show, like he didn't
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  Speaker 4: know me on stage, like he was surprised I was
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  Speaker 4: saying the stuff. He was way more level headed and
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  Speaker 4: rational when we were on the phone, and I still
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  Speaker 4: look back on the moment, I'm like, what was he doing?
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  Speaker 4: It was just it was like a circus act up there,
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  Speaker 4: and he was doing something that I thought was harmful
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  Speaker 4: because we were actually having a great discussion, and yet
• 12:19
  Speaker 4: he created a little moment and that was all the
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  Speaker 4: media ran with, despite the fact we were on that
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  Speaker 4: stage for hours. They ran with that moment, and I
• 12:25
  Speaker 4: was really upset about it. But you're right, I was
• 12:27
  Speaker 4: talking a lot about legal immigration and saying something that
• 12:29
  Speaker 4: we need to pay attention to because eventually the black
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  Speaker 4: vote's not going to matter. Something that that they worked
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  Speaker 4: so hard for is not going to matter. They get
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  Speaker 4: enough of legals in what are we at ten million
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  Speaker 4: under Biden, and they're doing it intentionally like it's going
• 12:41
  Speaker 4: to be the same thing that they did to Black
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  Speaker 4: Americans in the sixties, what Lyndon Baines Johnson's did when
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: he established welfare.
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  Speaker 6: Is in the Great Society Act. They want to get these.
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  Speaker 4: People in, offer them handouts, and turn them into economic
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  Speaker 4: slaves that will continue to vote for Democrats because they're
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  Speaker 4: getting free handouts. And it's incredibly racist first and foremost,
• 12:59
  Speaker 4: but because black Americans are still a lot of Black Americans,
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  Speaker 4: I just say, are still living under this deception that
• 13:05
  Speaker 4: Lynn and Baine Johnson was a good president even though
• 13:07
  Speaker 4: he wasn't.
• 13:07
  Speaker 6: A vowed racist. I mean, he hated black people.
• 13:10
  Speaker 4: I mean one of the so many times I mean
• 13:14
  Speaker 4: hard r referring to us as the N word, I'll
• 13:16
  Speaker 4: have those N words voting Democrat for the next two
• 13:18
  Speaker 4: hundred years.
• 13:19
  Speaker 6: And this man is being.
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: Haled as a hero because he had to sign the
• 13:22
  Speaker 4: Civil Rights Act essentially with the figurative gun to his
• 13:25
  Speaker 4: head because the country was on fire.
• 13:26
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 13:26
  Speaker 4: JFK I just died, and there were riots in the
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: streets protesting because of racism. And he did not want
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: to sign it, but he did. And with the other hand,
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: he signed the Great Society Act and incentivized welfare ism
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: and you know, programs to incentivize not marrying the black men.
• 13:41
  Speaker 4: You know, to think that we had government agents knocking
• 13:43
  Speaker 4: on the door, going into the homes of black women
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: and being like, there better not be a man that
• 13:48
  Speaker 4: lives here. We're just crere to check to make sure.
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: If you want this check, dad can't be home. Every
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: other ill that Black America is facing today is because
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: we've removed fathers from the home. So I am like
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: a big you know, I use my platform to talk
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: about men a lot and the need for male leadership.
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: Everything that is so harmful. This you know me too,
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: false feminism, all of this crap. It's anti man, and
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: it's anti man for a reason, because a society cannot
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: survive without strong men. A household cannot survive without strong men.
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: We need strong men to lead homes. And so the
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: fracturing of the black family I think was the test, Like,
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: you know, like we were the mice in the experiment, like,
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: let's see how that goes. And now they're kind of
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: doing that writ large and I just I hate feminism
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: so much I can't even tell you because what it's
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: about is it's just an attack on men.
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: Well, you just said a lot can talk about now
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: with the politicians, right with whether it's Linda b Johnson, Trump, Biden.
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: I think people are able to ignore a lot of
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: their bs as long as they can get something done. Yeah,
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: that's what it seems like. So that's why I don't even
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: like to talk about the person. I like to talk
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: about the policy. So what is the difference between traditional
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: conservatives in MAGA.
• 14:58
  Speaker 6: Well, I would say the between traditional conservatives and Mega.
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah before what the Conservative Party was before MAGNAE and
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: what is Yeah?
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: So I think what you're describing is that there was
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: this there was this fracture in the conservative movement because
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: people realized that when he was referring to the swamp,
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: what he meant was it didn't actually matter if you
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: are on the left or the right. They were all
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: working together in DC and selling out all of America.
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, there is no reason why you go to
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: d C and become a multimillionaire. You're supposed to be
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: there serve the American people. You're you're there taking our
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: tax dollars. So what was happening was these lobbying interests,
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: like you know, big farmer goes down in a lobby
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: and they'll offer money to a candidate to go push
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: a drug like the COVID vaccine, or they'll lobby for war.
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: It's like, you know, biggest lobby of course, military industrial complex.
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: So we're all suffering. You're going to.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: Work because these lobbyists are getting their incentives done by
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: buying out these politicians. And so Trump kind of hit
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: the scene as somebody who wasn't bought and paid for
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: because he didn't neither money. He wasn't like a random
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: congressman going to DC with no money. And he just
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: started talking about the swamp like it's not even Republican
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: or Democrat. And I want people to wake up to
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: that because I'm not here like ride or die for Republicans.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: They all sell us out, Like the stuff that they
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: did during COVID is criminal. It's just it's criminal. And
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: I mean just the the free handouts, first off, trillions
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: of dollars you're signing these omnibus bills. If you read
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: into it, where that where that money is going, It's insane.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: It's literally going, you know, to museums, boards of the museums.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: They're quite literally money laundering is what's happening when they
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: sign these bills. But they keep it so that the
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: information level is so low for Americans that it's like, oh,
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: COVID is so bad, Like we're going to give you
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: a check that's like, you know, three hundred dollars. This
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: basically describes welfare asm right, Like, despite the fact that
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: there's been trillions of dollars since the establishment of welfare,
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: black Americans are poor today that we were before it.
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: People don't know this, but during the time of.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: Jim Crow, before welfare was established in the nineteen fifties,
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: black Americans were actually out pacing white Americans in this
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: country in terms of economic growth. And the reason for
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: that was because our families were together, we had good values.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: The government only wants to give you the bare minimum,
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: but where's the rest of the money?
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: Where's it going?
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: They sign these bills making you think that this money
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: is going to you, it's not. They're stealing from the
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: American people, and it's you look at your congressman, whoever
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: it is that you guys sent down, you know, send
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: down to DC, and you.
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: Realize that they're all just puppets.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: I feel like we're watching a performance, you know, and
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: who can say the most outrageous thing?
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: The Republicans don't want to sign this because they want
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: you know, slavery and they want.
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: You back in change. And the Democrats don't want to
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: sign this because they want Grandma to die. Whatever it
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: is you're watching, just to me, it's a play.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: That's why I don't think.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: That's why I think if you're black, you shouldn't beholden
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: to any political.
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: Party, right.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think that any concept of saying that
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: I am a Republican forever, a Democrat forever is a nonsense.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: You know, you should always look at the candidates that
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: are running, and any person that is running saying that
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: they want to grow government is your enemy.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Why do you think people.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Give you a lot of backlash for questioning people and
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: having questions? I say all the time with Charlamayne, if
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: we question something that common Harris data question is something
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: that Joe Biden data a question to somebody that's democratic.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Why do you think how will people have so much
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: backlash when you ask so many questions?
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: Well, because I think that they don't realize that they've
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: been manipulated against their own interests.
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: And a lot of it is, you know, when you
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: start telling the truth, you become a problem to the establishment. Right.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: So if you're the military industrial complex and you want
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: people to just kind of sleepwalk into another war, and
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: I'm sitting here telling you that, you know, Pentagon just
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: can't keep finding the trillions of dollars that they send overseas.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: They've got this budget and they're sending all this money
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: in Ukraine and then they say, oh, we don't know
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: where all the money, what it's being launder and it's
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: being sent back to a very small group of powerful people.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: And so when you have someone like me who's cutting
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: through all of the emotional arguments, you have to turn
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: that person into persona non grata, right, And what better
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: way to do it than to have their own community
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: attacking them and saying and that they're you know, pro
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: white or anti black. I mean, it's a nonsense things
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: that they say about me. If you listen to what
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: I'm actually saying, I'm sitting here providing a blueprint for
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: Black Americans to get ahead because it's time. Okay, it's time.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: We've been doing this for for a long time in
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: this country. Black America, wake up.
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: Okay. They don't like you, they don't like us.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: Okay, America. Yeah, like the government, the American government. Why
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: would you think the American government wants to help you?
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: At what point in history has that proven to be right?
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: And I'll challenge that, and I'll make it wider to
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: all Americans. When has it ever been the circumstance that
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: you felt that the government really just was out for
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: your own best entrants interests. Think of them as a corporation.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: They want to grow themselves. They want new departments, bigger departments,
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: larger budgets like any other corporation would want. And they
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: never want to leave DC because that we don't have
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: tern limits, which we should have. Right if we had
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: turnaments and said you can only serve for four years,
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: well then guess what they would be doing for those
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: four years trying to shrink government because they'd have to
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: come back out and be us Right. When you look
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: at the way that your tax dollars are being spent.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: You should be outraged, you should be.
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: Angry, but stop thinking that the enemy is.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: You know, they constantly have us arguing against each other,
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: women versus men, black versus white.
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: You know, it's a nonsense.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: The reason why they want us constantly warring is because
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: it distracts from all of us coming together and taking
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: a look at who the real criminals are. And the
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: real criminal criminals are this small group, this small cadre
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: of powerful people that I think we're virtually all still
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: on a plantation. They just made it look nice. You know,
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: you got a nice chair, We.
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: Got nice chairs here. But I think we're all still
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: on a plantation.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: For baby shall So is this the reason why I
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: haven't really heard you pushing people to vote for any
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: particular candidate just go around?
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean I'm very clear about the fact I
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: let everything play out. But I absolutely love vivig Ramaswami.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Obviously he's not running anymore, but his ideas and his.
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: Laser sharp focus on what the actual issues were, I
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: thought he was absolutely brilliant.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: I'm obviously voting for Trump. You know, we were all
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: doing better under Trump. It's that simple. I don't care
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: what else they have to say the libels a smears.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: I get it, you do it to me, so I
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: just don't even pay attention. I actually find it to
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: be quite boring.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: Now, you know what, economically, what were the reasons because
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: you know you said that, you know you didn't like
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: that Republicans were given out money during two thousand twights.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: Both, yeah, both, So they were just giving out money
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: during COVID. It was crazy.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: But that's what a lot of people loved. They loved
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: the stimulus checks, they loved the PPP. So when you
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: say you were doing better under Trump, that's what people
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: point to. But look at the circumstances they took for
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: that to happen. We don't want to have to go
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: through another pandemic, no, in order to get that money.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: But the point is is that that should provide to
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: you a lesson how the government works. Because people weren't
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: even thinking ahead. You're like, yeah, I'm getting this free check,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: so I'm not going to work again, incentivizing poor behavior.
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: What ended up happening was a lot of the mom
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: and pop stopped. A lot of the mom and pop
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: stores closed, right, A lot of businesses actually had to
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: fold because they couldn't sustain it under under the economic environment,
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: they just couldn't thrive. People literally employees did not want
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: to go to work. It was crazy.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: And so what ends up happening is the individuals get
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: weaker and the corporations got bigger. Right, only the corporations
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: could have survived in that environment, which is what unfortunately
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: ended up happening. And then we put our own selves
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: on the hook to be taxed into oblivion to keep
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: paying into this ridiculous thing that we agreed agreed to
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: pay into. It would have been much better for us too,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: And says say, I'm happy to work. I don't want
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: your small check. I want you to stop taking tax
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: dollars from me. You know, shrink government, don't make it
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: bigger like that always has to be the economic narrative.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: If you want to make government bigger, you are taking
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: from me. Government does not make money. We make money, right.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Government can only take money.
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: So when you're advocating for more government solutions, you are
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: literally advocating for the government to come into your check
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: and take more money from you.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: How are people better on under Trump? Though I don't like.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: What are some things that you can point to well, I.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Mean, like I said, common sense, everybody was living better
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: under Trunk, but just in terms of the environment for
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: people that were entrepreneurial, definitively. One of the first things
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: he did was he started slashing regulations, like, you know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: slashing these barriers that prevent people who want to go
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: into business from starting a business because they learn that
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: there's all of these government agencies that are you got
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: to get this into place, you got to get this
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: in place, you have to get you know, this license.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: That's that's government agencies that are actually standing between you
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: and starting a company. And so on his very first day,
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: he was just like cutting regulations left and right, saying
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: thropist went out forro Bis went out, Throbis went out,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: which freed up the markets. At the end of the day,
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: what I am is I'm a free market capitalist. Free
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: the markets allow people to compete fairly. Stop allowing the
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: government to stop people or you know, de incentivize them
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: from creating new jobs. I'll give you an example. A
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: cousin of mine wanted to start a food truck. Great, awesome,
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: love for you to do that, and he looked into
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: like how many certifications and barriers there were before he
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: could actually start the food truck. That is the government
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: growing powerful. Essentially, you have to have money or you
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: have to know somebody to play the game for you
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: to be able to start from nothing and make something
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: of yourself.
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: Economic mobility is really what it's about.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: So, I mean, that was one of the things I
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: loved the most about Trump is that he was very sensible.
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: He has a very good business head.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: He understands the business environment, and every person should want
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: to you know, should be aspiring not to work for
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: a bunch of people that don't have your best interest,
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: but to you.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: There have so many businesses have failed though.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but even failing is a part of the entrepreneur
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Things that I've tried to do have failed, right, And
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: I don't ever let that be a barrier, Like I
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: think that there's always this psychological mindset of people.
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: That are are fearful to fail.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: That's the best way for things to happen, because you
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: learn so much in failure, and people always want to
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: point to and mock somebody for failing, like, oh, she
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: tried to do this, and then she felt why at least.
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: She tried, Right, what are you doing nothing? Losses?
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: Yes, and you learn from them, you grow from those losses,
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: you know. And that's another Yeah, that's the thing that
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: really bothers me too, is like that that's psychological conditioning
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: of like, well, what's the point.
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: In trying because you might fail.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: It's like, no, you should try, and you might fail,
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: and then you'll learn and the next time you try,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: you might make something of yourself.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: We've seen nd the cannabis industry where it costs so
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: much to even get into the industry, while you see
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: not a lot of minorities in the cannabis industry. I
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: don't want to talk about the business that that you
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: tried to open that you couldn't get because there was
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: so many regulations against you. I thought it was I
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: thought it had been a great business. And that's the
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: one where you can actually find find out the person
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: trolling you or talking shit about you online talking fake news,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: and you could actually find who they were.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: What happened?
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: No, So that was actually this was crazy. So I
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: actually never got to start the business that I wanted
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: to do.
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: It was just I was creating this. I wanted to
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: create an.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: App called Social Autopsy, and I wanted to create it.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: It was actually really misguided, but it was because of
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: what happened to me in high school. Like, I thought
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: that it was really harsh that those kids, all some
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: of them are really young, ended up getting arrested because
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: you know, their names got publicized, and you know, they
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: got arrested for a hate crime, and it ended up
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: ruining a lot of those kids' lives, like a lot
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: of them had suicide attempts. I heard that one of
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: them ended up changing their names. It's just a little
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: too young for us to be sneering and libeling people.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Kids are dumb. We all got the ability to be
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: able to grow up and be stupid and say dumb
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: stuff without social media, which is like I think that
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: was like glory for us, because I can't imagine if
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: like things that I thought when in the middle school
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: were on Twitter and people could pull it up and
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: be like, you're not allowed to have a life.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: Speak for yourself. Made mature fast, slower than everybody. It
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: took me a while some mind still on the internet.
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but I.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: Think it's unfair, and I think that a lot of
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: times we're all talking from this castle of like, oh,
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: these kids are horrible people because you said whatever when
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: he was twelve or thirteen. It's like, you don't have
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: to live through with those kids are living through with
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: social media. But I wanted to create this app that
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: would help them because rather than them having to get
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: like arrested for saying something like there could maybe be
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: like a school, could you know, make it a part
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: of their academic record or something else. It was extremely misguided,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: but my heart was in the right place. But before
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: I could even launch it, I put up a Kickstarter
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: that didn't have money to fund it. The kickstarter got
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: taken down because they said that this would be dosing
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: and it was actually a really wild situation. But yeah,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: it was just I was kickstarting a fund for it.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: But I'm glad it didn't take off because now I
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: realize why people think that it would have been really
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: bad for free speech if that had happened. Well, they think,
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: you know now, when you look at this environment and
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: see how people are treated when they say one thing
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: ten years ago, could you imagine if there was a
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: whole app that that.
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: It would have been used for evil? It really would
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: have been used for evil.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: I want to go back to something you said earlier
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: because I know a lot of people will hear you say, well,
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: kenn's're speaking a lot about, you know, the black family,
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: but then you married a white man.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm after whom I would have a huge problem
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: with this. Familiar with doctor Wuomore.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: I have heard of him. I have not listened to him.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: I'll be honest. What is his argument actually, if you
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: could just repurpose his argument.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: Everything he feels black men should be with black women,
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: because when you're talking about it from an economic standpoint,
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: you want to grow the wealth as a black family,
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: and if you marry somebody from another race, then you
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: know your wealth will be with that person.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: And he doesn't like that.
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: I would love to talk to him more about that,
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: because I mean, it's it's always very interesting to me
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: to hear this paradox of black people who will make
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: an argument that, you know, the system is racist and
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: then also make an argument like this, which is essentially
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: making an argument for the Supreme Court to revisit Virginia
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: versus Love and basically say that Black Americans and white Americans.
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: Shouldn't be marrying.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: I think the greatest thing ever is when people come
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: together on the basis of who they love and get married.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: You know, for me personally, I never thought of my
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: husband as a race. It is very interesting to me
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: that two people go, she's married to a white man.
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: I look at my kids. I'm not like, oh, my
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: kids are mixed.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: I married the person that it made the most sense
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: for me to marry. I have a mind that is
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: just you know, if you even knew half the things
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: that I'm thinking about, stuff that I'm reading, just go go, go,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: go go all the time. It's difficult for me to
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: find It was difficult for me to find a partner.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: That was a challenge to me, you know, the challenge
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: that I needed, whether you want to take an academic challenge,
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: whatever it is, with my same interests. It just was
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: what you will know, a lot of times people think
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: that when people come together.
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: It's because of how they look.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: Actually, actually, whether this than a Thomas Soul welcome maybe
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: of the Shelby Steel book. People tend to marry their IQ,
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: which is interesting. You think, like if you see two
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: black people together, oh, it's because they are two black people,
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: but actually they are probably better matched on their IQ.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: I fell in love with my husband just because I
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: think he is one of the most brilliant people ever.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: You know, I love him very much the stuff that
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: we talk about, and like, there is no other person
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: that I could have married. We have three beautiful children
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: who are growing up in an environment that I am
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: just so happy that I was able to, you know what,
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: every parent wants to give your children better than you had,
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: you know, and that was all I can say.
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: I'm just the luckiest person in the entire world.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Finding him attractive and just liking him for his.
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: Mind he got.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: He got the smear already ready for the journalists that
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: are listening. Una says, it was a bonus that I
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: also think that he's beautiful and gorgeous and handsome, But
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: it really was about his mind, you know, his ability
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: to just dive into any subject and comprehend it.
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: You know, you know, just any subject.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, whether you're talking about mathematics, economics, politics. He
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: could read a book on chemistry, read a book on
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: building houses, and he just comprehends the concept very quickly.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: So I know, I married the white person, and I
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: want every person to never allow like race to be
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: a barrier to you finding love.
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: That is so foolish that will stop you. And by
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: the way, you know, there's this there has been so
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: much toxicity and particularly in black relationships because of the
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: media portraying black men as this or black women as this,
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: and we just have to stop doing that. You know,
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: have you ever dated black men? Yeah?
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I dated black men, which is another thing that
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: I always find really funny because the media tries to
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: portray me as someone who only.
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: Liked white guys. Actually, if you want to be.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: Honest, I started off on a really strong Asian kick
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: in my life.
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: I thought I was gonna marry an Asian man. I did.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: My first boyfriend was Japanese, my second boyfriend was Korean.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: I just really loved Asian men.
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: It was weird. Yeah, Asian population is there, Yeah, I
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: mean there's age population everywhere.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: There a higher one in Connectic No, I think.
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: I just pursued Asian men. I don't know. I just
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: liked Asian.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Guys and always fetishized Asian man. Oh, stop paying the
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: hadlast week. What do you think is the biggesception of
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Candice Uness.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: I think the thing that I hate the most is
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: the media makes me always makes it seem like I'm
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: so angry all the time. That stereotype is crazy. I
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: have such a good sense of humor and I always
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: have so much fun. Genuinely, I'm having so much fun
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: on my show, on my podcast. I think that the
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: worst stereotype is they have me as somebody that's like
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: angry and hardened because they're always pulling out just one
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: excerpt of something that I've said, and I really I don't.
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: Like that because I'm have just a great sense of humor.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: I laugh even when they get me good, Like if
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: they do something and they say something that I'm like,
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: actually I hate this person, but that's kind of funny,
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: Like I do look like that, I'll laugh.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that when Chappelle.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, because I was just thinking, I like, listen
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Dave Chappelle. I didn't even think he was actually that
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: funny in that skit. Of all the Chappelle skits that
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: you know exist, I didn't think he was that funny.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: I think I think he was really angry throughout that skit.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: But also, it's Dave Chappelle, you know what I mean.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: It's Dave Chappelle, and he knows my name and he
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: knows who I am, And I think that you need comedians.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: It's a protected space. And even if they're making fun
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: of people, as soon as we start killing the jokers,
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: you know, we're no longer living in a society that
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: we want to be in. Trust me, when the Kings
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: start killing the jokers, it's not it's not good. And
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: I love Dave Chappelle. I grew up on Dave Chappelle.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: I was genuinely honored that he even knew my name.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: I was just like, what do you say?
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: It didn't make you, didn't make you feel no type
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: of way, called you the most articulate idiot he's ever seen.
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I didn't like I said. I didn't
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: think it was funny.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: I thought it was insulting, but I wanted to make
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: a larger statement that we need the comedians, you know
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: what I mean. And even though I particularly did not
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: find it funny, I just thought it was an important
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: to just kind of rise above it, you know. And yeah,
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: it was a defensive Yes, he definitely intended it for
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: it to be offensive, But at the end of the day,
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: I just I didn't really think it was an opportunity to.
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: Be like, what was I gonna say? Cancel Dave Chappelle.
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: You know, it's Dave Chappelle.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, now you accused TI of performing earlier, but you
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: know you're you got a platform too, So do you
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: find yourself performing?
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: I'm genuine, So there's never going to be a person
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: that comes on to my show or person that I've
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: talked to that is going to be like Candice then
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: flipped up, you know when the cameras were on and
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: started saying things that she didn't say to me privately.
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: That's what I mean about a performance. Why did you
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: do that?
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: You and I had spoken on the phone multiple times.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: I know what you think. I know that you've your
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: conservative So what was that actually?
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: What was that? No?
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: For me, I actually say what I believe, you know,
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: I actually believe the things that I'm saying, and people
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: just find that to be incredulous. How could a black
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: person not be a Democrat? How could she not honor
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: Linn Vane Johnson's dream to have you know those N
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: words voting Democrat for the next two hundred years. Because
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: I learned my history properly after I left school, you know,
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: because now I see that the people that I thought
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: were my saviors are actually avowed racists, and what they
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: really wanted to do was just to recreate the slave plantation.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: And when I see people like Ti, it gets me angry.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: It does people should be angry. People should now be
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: questioning full.
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: Stop, especially after the Dity lawsuit, like what's really what's not?
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: Who's being blackmailed? You know who maybe you know is
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: being controlled by certain people.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: These are questions that I think people are ready to
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: start asking. But I definitely have a huge, huge question
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: mark on Ti.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: What's up? You guys have definitely covered it rightly. It's crazy,
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: you know.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: It suggests that he was the Jeffrey Epstein of Hollywood,
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: that there's a blackmail ring, that people are being given drugs,
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: they're doing things while they're drugged, and then most people
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: are controlled. Right Because if you're a rapper and your
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: brand is hardcore, and I have a video of you
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: kissing a guy and I'm like, I'll release it unless
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: you say, or do or take this position, that's a
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: blackmail ring, right.
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: So No, he wasn't.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying that the Diddy lawsuit kind of led
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: me to ask some larger questions about okay, because I
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: have been feeling like in my heart that something weird's
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: going on with black media.
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: You know, I'm like, what is this.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: Trash that we're trying to sell as good music? This
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: is not This isn't black culture. I hate that black
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: people even call it black culture because that's like no
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: vultures came in and took black culture, turned it into
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: something else. Like I said, I've said it many times.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: I grew up listening to Lauren Hill. Stop trying to
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: tell me this is black culture, like I grew up
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: and my grandfather's house listening to the Temptation. Stop trying
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: to sell to me this is black culture.
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: It's not.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: This is whyolithic. I mean, you're like even you you're
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: an example of it.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: No, I'm not saying we're a monolith. I'm just saying
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: that black people create magic when they want to. Okay,
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: there's no singer that is better than a black singer.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: If you want to go tip for tech, gave me
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: the best, you know, white singer versus the best Black singer.
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: Like, we have unbelievable talent.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: Right, So if you're going to tell me that what
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: we are now making mainstream is the filth that I
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: hear today, I'm going to start asking questions about who's
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: condoning this, who's signing these people.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: But music is an algorithm, right, And what they really
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: do is they see what music is being hit on
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Shazam or what people are quote unquote liking, and that's what.
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: Is getting artificial. It's starting to get artificials say no.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: And I think that that's why I like, you know,
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: I do love Kanye because I think he was pointing
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: to this stuff really early, like when he jumped on
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: stage and grabbed a trophy from Taylor Swift.
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: People were mad. I was mad.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: I remember being like, what on earth is he doing?
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: But what was he actually telling you? That all of
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: this is it's a performance, right, Like that is not
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: based on mirror anymore.
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: And by the way, he was factually right.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: The Taylor Swift video was like a girl dancing in
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: a mirror and Beyonce put out single Laders, one of
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: the greatest mus videos of all time, and they gave
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: it Taylor Swift. There's a narrative, there's a person that
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: they're trying to make big whenever they make these decisions.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Also clarify by the Diddy lawsuit, because the person alleges,
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: I'll say allegedly that you know, Diddy told him if
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: he did this or that that he would get Producer
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: of the Year.
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: Well, how could did he make that decision? How could
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: did he offer that to somebody? Full stop?
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: You know, this means that there's a different reason that
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: people are getting awarded and are being platformed. And I
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: have seen people that I just do not believe were
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: made hot by black people that were suddenly being thrown
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: in our face and being invited everywhere on bright carpets
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: and suddenly their you know, next Taylor Swift. It's all
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: just feels so artificial. It doesn't feel well. I'm give
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: an example. You guys talked on stage about Ice Spice.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: I mean on the show about Ice Spice. You guys
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: played my clip where I was talking about it. I
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: don't have anything against Ice Spice. I'm sure she's a
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: very nice girl. I really am sure she's young. You
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: know that's not a justification. When was she twenty?
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: How was actually not that young? Right?
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: You know, like Lauren Hill gave she was like eighteen
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: when she was on Sister Act. But you know the
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: point is is I don't fault her for making that music,
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: but I am seeing this artificial promotion of icepis like,
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, have all the people that to
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: Taylor Swift aside to put on her on the stage
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: and take to you know, the super Bowl.
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: I have questions, you know, I just have questions.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: And I do think that Kanye was trying to say something,
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: you know, in that moment when he took the trophy
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: from her.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Well, but you know, when you were listening to Lauren Hill,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: you know there were other music in there that wasn't
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: like Lauren Hill music.
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: It was I think Lauren's a little before the Trina.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: But what I will say, it was a minority of
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: the music and now it's the majority. And I would
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: be okay with music like that if the majority of
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Black music was based on what we can actually create
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: our talent, because, like I said, we have a ton
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: of talent. I tend to think that when we get
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: involved in certain things, we just do it better. I
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: think creatively, black people are very gifted. And where somebody
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: is making our gift a curse, right, it's encouraging. It's
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: music that's encouraging black men to commit crimes. It's like
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: a hip hop to prison pipeline. And I just you know,
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: I really question it. How do you feel when Meek
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Mills says he listens to you all the time? Because
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: I've just thought about that when you were talking about
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: the music that they make, he actually listens to you
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: all the time tweet. I did see that and I
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: reached out to him and we had a private discussion
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: very quickly.
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: But it was so interesting because.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: Just based on that tweet, how quickly they tried to
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: make sure that me and Meek Mail wouldn't talk right
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: media instantly. This is what Canus has said in the
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: past about, you know, Meek mil being arrested. Just again,
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: constantly trying to fracture Black relationships, and that has always
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: been the name of the game, from politics to the media.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: They are interested in the business of fracturing Black relationships
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: if it's a relationship that I think they believe could
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: advance Black America. So I'm just like, when is there
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: going to be that moment that Black America is really
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: just going to fully awaken, you know, and have our moment,
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: like have our enlightenment in this country because we've never
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: been allowed to have it yet. And I think that
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: there are people that genuinely hate Black Americans and I
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: think sometimes people pretend to be the friends of Black
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: Americans and they're just not.
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: They're not our friends.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: You call Fandy Willis a ghetto superstar?
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Maya song was great?
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Why is Fandy Willis a ghettos?
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Come on?
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: Did you watch that freakin' ridiculous court? Did you watch
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: that Quark? It was wild?
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: It was just like this just gave me the Maya song.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: Like I thought she was fabulous. I was like, this
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: is so entertaining. Like I said on my show, they
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: should put her on Love and Hip Hop. I was entertained.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: I was entertained by Fanny Willis. But she has no
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: business being a district attorney. And maybe we should listen
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: to all the black men in Fulton County who have
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: been saying, you know, they all lined up in the
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: streets and were like, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. And when
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: they interviewed them, the black guys were saying, because we've
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: been saying forever in Fulton County that these charges are
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: all trumped up and ridiculous, and now for the first time,
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: people are going to pay attention to it because it
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: hit the president, and they were right.
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: Obviously, I was only watching this.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: Core case because it had to do with Trump, and
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: it was crazy, like somebody that corrupt should never be
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: in a position to power.
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, oh, she is a superstar.
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: I wonder if she should step down because it is
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: a distraction, you know what I mean, Like people should
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: be focused on the fact that Donald Trump, you know,
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: attempted to overturn the results of an election in Georgia.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Like that's what the trial should be about.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: But as long as Fanny Willis is on the case,
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: I think they'll constantly make it about that.
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: And by the way, let's just say he's on trial
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: for that, so he's innocent until proven guilty. But you
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: can't even really have the conversation about that because everybody
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: will be still.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: Focused on Fanny.
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah. And the thing is is now they believe that
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: what she did was just corrupt, full stop, right.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: That she's not a person that is clean here, She's
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: obviously corruptible. She's been having this relationship taking taxpayer dollars,
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: you know, allegedly taking tax pay dollars based on the testimony,
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: and using it to fund her and her boy friend's lifestyle.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: That they didn't find out that that wasn't true.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: He said it on the stand. So that's why they're
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: saying that like, this lawsuit will lead to more lawsuits.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, this trial will lead to more trials. Rather
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: because she said it on the stand. I pulled that
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: clip of her saying that she takes out cash and
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: some of the cash is from when she was campaigning.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, she implicated herself in some other severe crimes
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: while she was on the stand.
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: And that's why I think it's going to constantly be
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: a described and that's why I think she should just
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: step away from the case.
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: All again, I.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: Agree, but they are saying she's not going to so
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: she's going to be more of a show.
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: Now, you said you don't perform, but you said you
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: would state you would put your entire professional reputation on
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: the line.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: That first lady reject Macron is in fact a man.
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: Guys, guys, I am so happy that you asked me
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: this question because to me, this is the wildest thing
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: that I've ever looked into. No, this is crazy, This
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: is absolutely crazy.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: You absolutely must go watch my episodes on this because
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: I'm telling you I'm not the person that back when
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: they were saying Michelle Obama.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Was a dude.
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: Whatever, you know, where is about from.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: I'm not like, I'm not a person that's just going
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: to jump on that and say things that are ridiculous. This
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: was so crazy that I figured this is going to
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: be so easy to bunk. Like I looked into this
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, what is this case that's happening in France?
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: The French people are all oppressed, saying that they're being
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: you know, everybody's lyne.
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: I look into it.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: Blew my mind, absolutely blew my mind. First off, let
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: me ask you a question. If I say, right now,
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: I'm like, you were born a man, you lived for
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: the first three years of your life as a man,
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: what is the first thing you would do?
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: I want to fight you? And then after that, let's
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: say you're you're the president of France.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: After that, if you and I'm like one hundred percent,
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: she live as a man, like she didn't exist until thirty,
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: until she was thirty, what would you do?
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: I mean, I would be angry. I would have said,
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: if you want her to do, say it's the easiest
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: thing to debunk you, just like a classmate, a year book,
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: not even a pertificate.
• 42:52
  Speaker 7: I mean, if I'm the president, like I'm the president, Yeah,
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: I'm providing some type of like.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: Thirty years of your life, okay, thirty years of your life. Instead,
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: what this president did, this president and his wife did
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: was first sent the police to try to intimidate the
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: journalists as they were working on this case.
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: They worked on his case for three years. These were journalists.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: It was listen like random Reddit conspiracy theory and that
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: you know Bridgie Macrome was a transsexual. And they sent
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: the police, took their phones, wanted to know who else
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: was working on the story.
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: You don't do that. You don't do that always. I
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: would literally just be.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: Like, here's a photo of every year in my life.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: I would expect classmates to be like, I went to
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: school with her, high school with her, graduated with her.
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: Here she's nothing, just intimidating the journalists.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: Journalists drop the stories and anyway, then the Bridgie McCrone
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: sues them for invasion of privacy. You guys are doing
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: way too much. Produce one photo you allege that you
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: had three kids and thirty years of living. To the contrary,
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: tons of photos of Jean Michel, who she alleges is
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: her brother.
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: Oh okay, where's your brother? Then go for a walk
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: with your brother. Debunk the rumors.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: Just go walk ten feet with Jean michel No, because
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: you are Jean Michelle truck Now. The journalists were absolutely right.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: They did an incredible job, a long series.
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: Fe A documents. I had to like download it and
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: put in English, and I was like, this is wild.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, they have photos of Jean Michelle truck No
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: just look like twins. It's obviously obviously, Brigitte, you know
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: exactly now you're asking the right question.
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: We're going on for years in France. I covered this
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: the front. People were going crazy. They were like, thank
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: you so much. We bring gas lit by the media.
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: It takes five seconds to walk with your brother. I
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: would this is what I would do.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: I walk up with my brother and then I would
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: give a speech press coomer. So I'd be like, and
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: this is the danger of conspiracy theories.
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: This is my brother. It is ridiculous.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: This is being pushed by far right nothing. They've just
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: been trying to silence people, intimidation and tactics.
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: They even tried to sell to the press a fake
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: photo which got debunked. It was actually Jean Michelle's daughter,
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: saying that this was Jehn Michelle they turned it into
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: black and white and tried to pretend that was fudd
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: You're now sharing fake photos trying to get away with this,
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: telling you guys, look into the case. It is wild.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: Jean Michelle Trock now is now Brigique Macrone transitioned.
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: At the age of thirty.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: By the way, alone, that whole story of the Manu
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: mont Crome was like thirty years older. That already we're
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: we're in pedophile territory. So everything about that story has
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: been sticked from the beginning.
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: Well, the age in France, I agree with you on that,
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: but the age in France, I think the legal ages
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: fifteen if.
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: Well, in different interviews they said fourteen, he was thirteen.
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: It's something not right there in that entire situation.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: And yeah, I'm telling you look into it. It's a
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: wild story.
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: Now. I also believe that Hollywood was created by the CIA.
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: Well before we say Hollywood was created by the CIA,
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: I guess I should clarify because you know, first off,
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: you guys do know if the Pentagon has a budget
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: for film, because the whole department, that's a fact.
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: There you go, that's all you need to know. There's
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: an entire department in the Pentagon. They get involved with films,
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: and they get involved with films for the purpose of propaganda.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: They always have, well movies, I should have said Pentagon
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: instead of CIA, tons of them.
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: I should show you the list. You shoul pull it up.
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: It is wild. Yeah, Pentagon Department for.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: Hollywood, tons of them, even transformers, even transformers like you know,
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: because they're.
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: Concerned about certain narratives they get involved.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: With like World War films like how are we telling
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: a story about history? Usually it's because we're lying about
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: what we did or trying not to make Americans aware
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: of the crimes against humanity that we commit overseas.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: You know, just funded some films black Hoged Down, Red Down, GoldenEye.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: The more you know, now you understand your experience in
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: theaters is what your government wants you to think. They
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: want you to think that this is how things happen,
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: and it's usually not at all how things have actually happened.
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: Of the best movies made would help from the Department
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: of Defense, this is military.
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: I shouldn't have said c I A. I should have
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: just said the government.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: But yeah, Red Dawn, Apollo thirteen.
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: It's all about iron Man.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Oh listen, that interesting.
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: What iron Man, that's her limit right there.
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: It's crazy.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: What is the what is the point of it? Just control?
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, propaganda, it's crazy.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: You grow up in school and you think propaganda belongs
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: to the East or something.
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: Propaganda is the name of the game of our government.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: They again, never want you to look into the crimes
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: that they are committing.
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: So they constantly trying to sell themselves as the good guys.
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: They did the most, They rescued and saved the world.
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: They've never done anything bad overseas.
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: If you are living and you believe that the American
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: government hasn't committed crimes against humanity, you just you had
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: to wake up from the propaganda.
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: You just go.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: You got to You gotta learn real history and not
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: what was taught to you in a textbook. That's all
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: just propaganda. You know, we've done horrific things.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Horrific things you mentioned Kanye put you on the phone
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: with TI and some other people. What's your relationship with Kanye?
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Because I know one time y'all are going to do
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: a business with each other and yeah.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: Just Philadelicia, Yeah, you know, I was under so much
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: pressure it was actually insane to say horrific things about
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: Kanye when all that stuff started going down? Was it
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: two years ago now? And the truth is is my
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: relationship with Kanye began long before I ever met Kanye.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: I really do credit the creation of like my spirit
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: in my character with listening to his music and having
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: the courage to step out of the bounds of what
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: people say that you are allowed to be and like
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: his song power, I played that so many times when
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: I got into politics, just realizing that I was going
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: to take a lot of bullets. People were going to
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: say a lot of things about me, but really the
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: power is within me to just not care. And that
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: is why I think that a lot of people don't
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: understand like what Kanye means I think to the black community.
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: And that's why the media couldn't take him down because
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: they media didn't create Kanye.
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: That's the truth. They didn't create them.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: And so I will forever defend what Kanye has meant
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: to so many people who grew up on his music
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: and listen to his music, like the just knowing that
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: you can that you have within yourself and you have
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: the power within yourself to be something.
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: You know, He's obviously still creating music still.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: Loved very much. Do I agree with everything that Kanye does.
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: No. I don't even think Kanye grew all the stuff
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: that Kanye does.
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's always on the bus when he when he
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: needs to.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: Though me, Yeah, it feels like about me.
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: It feels like he's quick to distance himself from you
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: at certain points.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: You know, I think that a lot of the way
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: the like, what do you mean by that?
• 49:07
  Speaker 6: I guess I.
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: Think about one moment in particular, when everybody got mad
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: at him. It was I don't know if it was
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: it's something you designed. It was the blexit shirts or something,
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: and you said he designed them and he.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: Was like I didn't.
• 49:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: So I think that actually time has been good with
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: that situation because I couldn't say a lot and people
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: thought that I was like lying, like Cannis lied. First off,
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: I never said that Kanye designed the T shirts. Ever,
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: I said that he designed the logo. And Kanye did
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: design the logo. He had helped us, like you know,
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: I have photos of it. But at that time, Kanye
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: was going through a lot personally and I just didn't think.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: I just decided I was just going to be the
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: bigger person I could have clarified it in the media.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: But I just allowt everyone to call me a liar because,
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: like I said, I'm like a fiercely loyal person, and
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: because I knew of a lot of so that was
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: going on personally with him. I just didn't want to
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: add to the avalanche, you know, of people criticizing him.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: But again, I never had said that Kanye designed the
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: TA shirts, but he did help us with the logo
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: and why.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: Troll people, like when y'all wore a white Lives Matter.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: No, because white lives do matter, And the point wasn't
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: to troll people. It was actually to make a statement,
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: you know, And that's kind that first off, Kanye was
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: behind that, but he's an artist and there's a point
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: that he's always making it. You don't think he did
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: this toatrol like, It's just that seems very beneath him.
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: I'm just doing this Coatrol.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: Dame Dash is the guy, and Dame Dash even said
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: that's what he does. He trolls, but is obviously troll.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: I don't I didn't consider that as trolling. I definitely
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: don't think that he would have put trolling as a
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: part of his fashion show. He takes his fashion pretty seriously.
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: You know, he's the type of person that will say
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: one thing in private and didn't publicly do a whole
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: about faith on it.
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: He's done that with you.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, bunch of time.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: What topic because I've never seen stuff. But he says
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: that he believes I've never seen him flip on a topic, like, no,
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: I've seen him flip on his positions. Yes, absolutely, that's interesting.
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: Absolutely, Well I can't I can't tell you it didn't happen.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, but regarding the White Lives Matter shirts, you
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: know BLM, I said from the very beginning it was
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: going to be bad.
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: That's another one that people are sothing like, oh Canes
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: did say this.
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I did, man, Because obviously it was
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: going to be another money laundering situation. Crazy, ninety million
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: dollars raised in no time, in a couple of months,
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: and all that money went to trans organizations. Wild, absolutely crazy,
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: establishing the first trans neighborhood in San Francisco.
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: Crazy. But it was obvious.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: It was obvious because wherever there is tons of black emotion,
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: there is a moneylaundering operation that's about to get off
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: the ground. And whenever there was like worldwide media support.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: Why do Black Americans think the media support them? As
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: soon as you got tricks.
• 51:32
  Speaker 6: By thinking that the media was on your side, it was.
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: It should have been a wake up call. It went
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: way too global, way too fast.
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: Corporation suddenly, yes, we believe in this, and I knew
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: that the end result was going to be that Black
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: American communities were going to be looted and rided to
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: the ground, you know, and that they were training Black
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: Americans psychologically to believe that this was it.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: This was going to be what you know, the advanced
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: and this is going to be good for your calls.
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: Get behind this organization that's ultimately going to hurt you
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: and set you back, which is what happened. Businesses moved
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: out of black communities because why would you continue running
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: a business if you're getting robbed and stolen from every
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: five minutes. And now those communities are poor, and now
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: you have Rashida Talib saying, oh, Walgreens is racist because
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: they are leaving, you know, inner city communities. What would
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: you like Walgreens to do? This is a for profit business.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: So an incentivized bad behavior in the black community made
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: businesses move out and money laundered to a bunch of
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: LGBTQ I A However, many letters it's.
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: Gotten to.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: Organizations, which I also think is not good for the
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: black community.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: So have you had any conversations with anybody from like
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: have do they have a challenge you on?
• 52:34
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, I went to Fortesa's house. I was
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: very pregnant. She lied, caught her real time lying.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: It was very polite when I when I rang the
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: door bell, I went to one of her houses.
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: She's got a lot of houses.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: Thanks for BLM. But yeah, I had on Hawk Newsome,
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: who was the New York chairman her VLM.
• 52:54
  Speaker 6: Had him on my show several times.
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: Actually I had him on three times, I believe, and
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: debated him and his ideas during I'm not a person
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: that is scared to debate anybody on any topic, because
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: it's what I actually believe. I think people that run
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: away from debate to the liars, right, Like, if you're
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: gonna sit and talk about somebody and say they think,
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: sit down and have a.
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: Debate about it about a topic, b l all the heat.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: But fortunately that's a one hundred million dollars just burned
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: and gone and there to support trans issues. If that's
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: what Black America agrees with.
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: I agree with that, even when it comes to people
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: that you may disagree with, like you know, people may
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: disagree with Candice Ons, they may disagree with you know,
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: Fox News. If I'm needs elected officials and these people
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: that are being spoken about, I'm gonna go on y'all
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: platforms and talk to y'all because y'all have huge platforms.
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: So why continue to let somebody say some things that
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: you say aren't true, or say some things that you
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: disagree with and let those things go on challenge or
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: have the conversation.
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: With right exactly.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: And so I think that's part of it, is that
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: we've been so boxed in and you're only hearing liberal
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: ideas and liberal concepts. And by the way, I do
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: want to say half the narratives when I say, like
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: I suddenly realized I was always a conservative, I think
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: that actually would happen if Black Americans actually paid attention
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: to conservative arguments.
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: Is I don't take the black community as woke liberal.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: It's just not that I think something like especially on
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: the LGBTQ stuff, like I don't. It's really, is this
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: what black Americans care about? Like bathroom signs and wanting
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: kids to pick their gender. I would definitely say no, no,
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: So it's just being forced. His narrative is being forced,
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: and I cannot stand. Nothing makes me angrier than seeing
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: the intentional feminization of black men.
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: Drives me insane.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: It's about kid Cutty wearing a dress like suddenly. And
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: there is actually an old interview that I believe Dave
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: Chappelle gave to Oprah where he talks about that that
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: in Hollywood there's always this like pressure for them for
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: them to try to get black men to wear dresses.
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: And he like said no to this, and people kept
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: trying to get them to wear a dress, and like,
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: wouldn't it be so funny in one of your skits
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: if you were And he was like, no, what is this? Like,
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: why are you trying to get me to wear a dress?
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: That is weird?
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: To me?
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: It's super toxic.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: And I for some reason, when I see that, like
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: the hyperfeminization of black men, it does something to me spiritually,
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: like it makes me want to snap.
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: Well, I guess I'm not saying you're wrong, but you know,
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: they're plenty of people that'd be like, well, why you're
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: not with a.
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: Black man in Candice, that's something we do that anyway.
• 55:07
  Speaker 6: But I'm of a black man, like my granddaddy, my dad,
• 55:10
  Speaker 6: I'm of a black man.
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: It's not gonna like, why do you feel impacted by it?
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: Because I am seeing that intentional attack on black men
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: and they're trying to condition black men to aspire to that.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: When he put that on a red carpet and like,
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: oh look, fame and men wear a dresses.
• 55:24
  Speaker 6: What is that? Stop selling that to the black community.
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: I don't like that at all.
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: I love the way that you and Ben Shapiro are
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: able to disagree, But then I guess still have a
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: business relationship because I saw him recently tell you what
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: I think it was maybe a few months ago. He
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: told you to quit over your over your Israel coverage.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: You're Palestine Israel coverage. Yeah, what was that about?
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: Well, he told me, well, the tweet that he responded
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: to is actually just some biblical passages, and he thought
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: that it was me saying that I had to choose
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: money over the I don't know how we interpret it,
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: but it was definitely not. I just meant it as like,
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: you know, peace calling for peace, because you know there
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: was a video circulating of him calling me a disgrace
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: when a faux professional or whatever it was. I decided
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: to choose peace, and then when I chose peace, he
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: responded to the peace with not peace.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't you just fire well?
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: As I explained on Tucker Carlson's show, like Ben doesn't
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: have the power to fire me. And it's not even
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: saying that we disagree on Israel and Palestine.
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: I think that he's.
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: Obviously his wife is Israeli. He spends a lot of
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: time in Israel throughout the year. I think when you
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: have an emotional attachment to someplace that sometimes your your
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: reaction to anything is going to be more extreme to it.
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: You know, I have some relatives that are from Saint Thomas.
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: If what was happening in that region was happening in
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: Saint Thomas, I would probably be the most.
• 56:51
  Speaker 6: Fired up out of everybody at a daily wire.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: And yeah, he definitely went through I think an emotional
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: time at the end of last year, you know, dealing
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: with everything. I think I was pretty even keel. I
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: don't want to see innocent Palestinians killed. I don't want
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: to see innocent Israelis killed. I never want to see
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: children killed. I don't believe children should have to grow
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: up in a war zone based on the actions of
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: a few, and that.
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: I guess last year sounded crazy.
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: Sounded crazy because always the demand in all these situations
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: is to make people pick aside, and then if you
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: don't pick their side, then you get smeared and you
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: get libeled.
• 57:26
  Speaker 6: Right, So, if you don't say I.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: Want every Palestinian murdered, then suddenly you're pro hamas. If
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: you don't say, like, I want every Israeli person eradicated,
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: you know, then suddenly you're pro apartheid with whatever the
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: arguments are.
• 57:38
  Speaker 6: And I think both of that is extreme.
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: You said, no government anywhere has a right to commit
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: a genocide. Ever, there had no justification with genocide.
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that is going to age so well. Genocide is
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: always wrong. It is, guys. It is always wrong and
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: doesn't matter at any point in human history. Any person
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: that is advocating for genocide is always in the wrong.
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: And when I wrote that, sweet, I was referring to
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: Brian mast was a congressman. He got up and he
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: literally said in Congress that there's no such thing as
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: an innocent Palestinian.
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: And I was like, that is genocidal.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: As soon as you say an entire group of people
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: are all evil, you are now laying the groundwork to
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: justify a genocide.
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: And that to me was wild. So I spoke up
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: against him.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: Have you been ball from Fox News?
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: No?
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: I just stopped going on Fox I used to. You know,
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: my schedule is very busy, but I used to go
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: only once a week on the Tuner Carlson Show, and
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: then Tucker left Fox News, so I just didn't go
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: on Fox News too.
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you seem to be uh excited that Black America
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: is embracing you, as you said.
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just glad that they're hearing me for the
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: first time. Forget embracing, I just wanted them to actually
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: hear me. There was just so much, so many things
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: said about me that I just were not true, And
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: no matter what, every time my uncle was written, they
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: would just rehash of things that I never said. I mean,
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: even the Joe Budden interview that was recently drops and
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: everyone's talking about it. Go read Hot New hip Hop's
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: article on it.
• 59:05
  Speaker 6: It's wild. It's just not what was said at all
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: in that interview.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: It's just patching together things to make me seem like
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: I'm a monster, like Cannis blames the education system for
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: like ice spices music.
• 59:15
  Speaker 6: That's literally what they said.
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: They ran with that, and so I'm just excited that
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: we're that they're at least hearing me. That's the That's
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: the biggest thing, actually being able to decide. Okay, I
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: heard Candace, and here's what I think about her, rather
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: than I heard what somebody else heard and what they
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: say that I should have heard, and here's what I
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: think about her.
• 59:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, because most of the hate is like Domino, like,
• 59:34
  Speaker 7: you'll see like over the years, I've seen like people
• 59:36
  Speaker 7: in comments, It'll be headlines about you and somebody don't
• 59:39
  Speaker 7: like you because somebody else don't like you, and then
• 59:41
  Speaker 7: because of what somebody else said, and then oh she
• 59:43
  Speaker 7: usually just sha ain't never of us, or it's always
• 59:46
  Speaker 7: what somebody is waiting to like in the comments.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: Show them.
• 59:49
  Speaker 7: And I always say people wait in the comments. Go
• 59:52
  Speaker 7: on the comments to.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: See how like, see how people.
• 59:56
  Speaker 7: Want to feel the comments first, so they can tell
• 59:58
  Speaker 7: you how to field right.
• 59:59
  Speaker 6: You never did search on her.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 7: You've never sat and talked to her, obviously, you don't
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 7: watch her show. You just grab what the headlines grab
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 7: and you read the comments and they tell you not to.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 6: Like her, right.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: And a part of that, by the way, has a
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: lot to do with illiteracy, which is something that I
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: talk about all the time, because the illiteracy rate in inner
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: cities right now is over seventy percent. I'm talking about
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: over seventy percent of black boys that can't pass a
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: basic reading exam.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: That is crazy, That is crazy.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: Across the United States entirely forty percent were forty percent.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: So people think that they're going to public schools to
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: get an education. It's the exact opposite. They are slowly
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: making sure that you're never going to be able to
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: have a proper education, and they're going to tell you
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: what to think. That's what they want. They want the
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: ability of a headline. And that's very scary. You know,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: I talk about what they did on slave plantations. You
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: know why we weren't allowed to learn how to read,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: because they knew that if they could control the narrative,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: then you could be enslaved forever.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: Right, Your mind becomes enslaved when you can't read.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: When you say, okay, I learned that in a textbook,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: but let me read this, you know, and actually see.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 6: What I think, Then I think that's intentional.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: I literally believe that there is an evil intent to
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: re enslave Black American and the ability for us not
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: to read, to me is everybody should be hitting the
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: alarm on that, like why aren't black boys learning how
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: to read and yet being encouraged to make music, to
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: follow hip hop, to do this, to do that.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: You know, follow sports.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: You know, our culture is very much like go into
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: music or go into sports. We need black scholars, We
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: need black people that are actually aware of what has
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: actually happened to Black America, what the true story is
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: outside of what these textbooks are trying to sell.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: That. It's very scary to me. The literacy rate in
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 6: Black America.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: Good because a lot of times, when you know, black
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: people see other black people that are successful, they're in
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: music and athletics, so that people gravitate towards.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: Right, which guarantees them. That's why they turn these people
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: into such idols. It guarantees more black failure, right.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 6: Because here's the truth. What is the actual percentage chance
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 6: that you have of becoming the next Lebron James? Zero percent?
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: Let me just tell you zero percent that you're going
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 6: to be the next But every black kid, because of
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 6: the way he's heled as a hero and they put
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 6: this is going to try to be the next Lebron James.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: They're going to think that they have it right, so
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: they're going to put the academics a second and prioritize.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 6: You know, my baby's gonna be the nex Lebron. Okay,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 6: but he probably isn't going to be.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: What is your chance as a Black American of becoming
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: a doctor if you stay in.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 6: School and past love a tests. One hundred percent are
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 6: black doctors too.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: What is Kanda's one's definition of black excellence.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 6: That's a very good question.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: You know, I think black excellence would just be excellence period.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: Because I always try to say the reason why you
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: should we should remove ourselves from saying white excellence black
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: excellence is because I've realized that there's been a power
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: in people trying to segregate our minds in that way.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: You know, Excellence, to me, I think is independence. I
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: think it starts with independence of thought, like actually challenging
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: yourself and challenging your beliefs and constantly re examining them,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: not thinking that you haven't figured out, but I think
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: that once we achieve higher education levels, and I'm talking
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: about black people in mathematics, black literacy rate jumping to
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: what it should be, which be one hundred percent if
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: we're if we're being honest, if you're sending somebody through
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: the public education system, then we will start to see
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: necessarily black people achieving more in our society. So I
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: just personally think that we should be focusing on the
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: black literacy rates full stop, and also creating our own companies,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and not being having our
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: voices controlled.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: We have a few questions for you, just just a few,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: just to just to the questions coming from either black
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: quiz questions.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 6: Where's the black quiz at?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: We have our own questions.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 6: So are we on Twitter? Where are we at? So?
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: Where did MLK deliver his famous I Have a Dream speech?
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 6: Oh in Washington, d C.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: Yes, ding ding ding ding ding?
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 7: And yeah, how many fights did Will Smith get into
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 7: before his mom got scared?
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Well? Good questions.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 6: Philadelphia born and ways on the playground as my husband.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 6: Most of my days chilling out, maxim relax and all
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 6: cool and.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: All shooting some b ball outside of.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 6: The school one. A couple of guys they were up
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: to no good, started making trouble from my neighborhood. I
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 6: got one little fight. It was just it was a
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 6: little one. No, you can't.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 7: You can't think the whole song and like it was a.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: Little scuffle. His mom got scared. Yeah, his mom was overreacting. Yeah.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: The following is May Angelou's first body of work, which
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: is the following.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: Well, I'll let you guess. I wasn't following me.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: You gotta give us still rise.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 6: No, I don't know. Okay, I don't know.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: I know why the cave bird things.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 6: The first one that was a tough one. Yeah, my favorite.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 6: I was just giving you my favorite, my favorite one.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: Rise is my favorite, my Angelo poem. Do you have
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 6: another one?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: I have to Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna do one.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: You do it, and I'll do another one.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 7: Okay, finish this lyric temporary layoffs, good times, easy credit ripoffs,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 7: good time scratching and surviving good times.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 6: You know what? That's before my time?
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, good answer.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and that is.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: Before my time. That's a little bit right, Yeah, I know.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: But how were you watching that? I was you were
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: I did.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 6: I never watched it. I was I watched.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: I feel like I watched every other show except except
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: Good Times. Yeah all right, yeah, but that's that Good
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: Times would have been the eighties.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, I was born in ninety two, but I
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 7: watched it with my grandmother.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 6: I did not watch it, So I watched almost all
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 6: of the other ones, but not that one. Okay, I
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 6: knew it was Good Times, but I didn't. I didn't
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 6: know the uh.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: If the easy one. Who's the first black woman to
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: serve as the US Supreme Court justice?
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 6: The first black woman to serve as a Supreme Court justice?
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 6: Black woman? Is it now? Just now? It's her? It's
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 6: what you MC call it?
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 6: I can't believe blanking on her name. I'm totally blanking
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 6: on her n two for three no, no, no, no, no, no no,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 6: I'm just blanking on her name. I know her name.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 6: She just literally just got in there, and I cannot
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 6: you just give me a first letter. See, look at.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: You is a little her name is a little trick.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 6: Give me give me the first letter. Okay, wait, how
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 6: do you actually say that?
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: Though?
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: Can talk first name? Then it's this response. God is good?
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 6: God is good? Amen?
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: God is great.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do. God is good all the time and
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: all the time, God is good.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 6: That's right. Where is that from christ can Church? Why
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 6: do you say all the time?
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Back from Black church? God is good all the time church?
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 6: Everybody said it.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: No, I guess I I didn't go to enough black
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: churches growing up.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: And what's the correct amount of raises to a to
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: a potatoes out?
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 6: Zero? Okay, absolutely zero.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: It's actually offensive. It was almost it was almost a
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: racist question. That is the wildest thing I've ever seen
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: Caribbean in because you just don't put raisins in the salad.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: You just don't get raisins in the salad.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, Well it was a pleasure.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: Yes, I believe in conversation over confrontation.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 6: Thank you guys.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: I think that you know, nowadays people just be wanting to,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: you know, talk to people just to have a moment
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: and yeah, and it's like, yo, have a conversation with
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: a person. Let a person put their ideas out there
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: and let people decide how they feel about saying yeah right.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: And the biggest thing that I want to say is like,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: please stop putting raisins and potato salad. That's what you
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: want to say, thank you guys so much for me.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: I really appreciate this and I'll come back anytime.
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  Speaker 6: And when did you hear up the baby? I just
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 6: had the baby in November. Word and literally don't look
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 6: like you had. Thank you so much. Thank you?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you three under three. We're living lovey do. But
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: it's it's a blessing. Family is always a blessing drive
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: for family. Man, it's changes you. It really does change
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: does anyway?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it really has.
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  Speaker 4: Like I've never been more secure in my life than
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: since becoming on. I think it's hard being a woman
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: when you grow up, but I think that when you
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: have kids kind of God's design gets into focus and
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: you realize like your purpose, Like you're like wow, like
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: I know what to do here, and especially of course
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: if you're in a marriage. I am so sustained by
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: my home life and so that's why I don't care
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: what happens outside of it.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, it's Candice O Lady, ladies and gentlemen,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: it's the breakfast club, good morning wake
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: That hands up in the morning's breakfast Club.