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24 0814 PH City Cyber Attack · Chuck Douglas

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Speaker 1: get you on, which I failed at last night. By
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Speaker 1: the way, I'm sorry, but you guys all wait until
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Speaker 1: the second half of the show to call. And I
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Speaker 1: actually left this room last night. I feel terrible about
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Speaker 1: it with a screen full of people trying to get on,
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Speaker 1: and Zach and I both lamented after the show man,
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Speaker 1: it's it, you know, I have the time that I have.
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Speaker 1: It is what it is. And if you wait until
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Speaker 1: you know fifteen till to call up, I'm not gonna
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Speaker 1: get you in. It's just I'll do my best for
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Speaker 1: everybody that gets in early on, but I can't. There
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Speaker 1: are just some things logistically that cannot be done. Sean
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Speaker 1: Hennedy comes up after I get off, and that has
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Speaker 1: to be timed out. Zach has to make sure everything
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Speaker 1: in order for that to happen. So don't be angry
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Speaker 1: at me. I'll do my best always to get you on.
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Speaker 1: So that being said, I've been telling you and I'm good.
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Speaker 1: I'll talk about the thing I had in the probo
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Speaker 1: about the Kamala Harris of stuff that came out. But
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Speaker 1: this is more important to me because I am live
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Speaker 1: and local, and I like live and local stuff. This
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Speaker 1: is my hometown. I like to make sure that we
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Speaker 1: are all aware of what's going on here. So yesterday
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Speaker 1: I spoke about Mayor Andy Gentther Andrew Ginther. I don't
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Speaker 1: even know what he prefers. I think Andy, I'm not positive,
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Speaker 1: but he spent seventeen minutes yesterday saying nothing about this
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Speaker 1: cyber attack. I mean, he talked, words came out of
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Speaker 1: his mouth, but he really did not say anything of
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Speaker 1: any consequence except for the fact that you know, it
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Speaker 1: was encrypted and they weren't able to use it, and uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, not so much the case, not so much
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Speaker 1: the case. As a matter of fact, I'm gonna commend
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Speaker 1: Channel ten over there Tera Jibor at Channel ten for
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Speaker 1: doing a story Tuesday morning. Columbus me or Andy Getter
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Speaker 1: said the data posted by hackers on the dark web
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Speaker 1: was not usable. He said it was not usable. He
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Speaker 1: said it was not usable because it was encrypted or corrupted. However,
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Speaker 1: a cyber security expert not only said that's not true,
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Speaker 1: but revealed what personal information is available. Cyber security expert
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Speaker 1: Connor good Wolf It's a name he chose for this interview,
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Speaker 1: not his legal name. He said, the personal data one
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Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of private citizens is now on the
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Speaker 1: dark web. Those citizens are anybody listen to me now, people,
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Speaker 1: I need some church music because Chuck's about to preach,
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Speaker 1: he said. Anyone who swiped their driver's license at city
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Speaker 1: Hall in the last past ten years. If you wanted
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Speaker 1: to go to a council meeting or had a meeting
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Speaker 1: with a council person, or trying to get into see
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Speaker 1: the may or anything like that, you had to swipe.
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Speaker 1: It includes anyone who's dealt with the Columbus City Attorney's
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Speaker 1: prosecuting office in any way. That means whether you have
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Speaker 1: filed charges or whether you were being charged with something.
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Speaker 1: They got you. I called the other day to get
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Speaker 1: a copy of my water bill. They needed the last
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Speaker 1: four digits of my social Security number. Any way, including victims, suspects,
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Speaker 1: or someone who was subpoened by the court or law enforcement.
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Speaker 1: Goodwolf downloaded servers from the City of Columbus and showed
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Speaker 1: ten TV personal information. He said. When he heard about
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Speaker 1: the data being hacked for the city, he went to
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Speaker 1: the dark web to see what he could find. I said,
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Speaker 1: let's take a look. I saw the prosecutor's database on there,
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Speaker 1: so I was like, this isn't good. They contained private information.
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Speaker 1: They contained social security numbers. They contained addresses of individuals,
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Speaker 1: especially people at risk in this situation, victims of domestic violence, rape,
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Speaker 1: and other heinous crimes. Their private information is now public information.
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Speaker 1: I told you people this. I told you two weeks
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Speaker 1: ago when we first started getting a whiff of this story.
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Speaker 1: I told you there's no way it was limited to
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Speaker 1: a couple of cops. Then it became more cops, then
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Speaker 1: it became firefighters. I told you, if you've paid a ticket,
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Speaker 1: paid taxes, paid a water bill, had any interaction with
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Speaker 1: the City of Columbus. You were in a computer somewhere.
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Speaker 1: I told you. This guy told ten TV it did
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Speaker 1: not take him long to find the data. He said
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Speaker 1: he downloaded the twenty two gigabyte twenty two gigabytes of
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Speaker 1: data from the prosecutor's office in three to six hours.
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Speaker 1: He found his legal name on that database. He said.
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Speaker 1: I felt vulnerable, sick to my stomach. I'm just a
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Speaker 1: cybersecurity expert. My thoughts are the city is ignorant and
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Speaker 1: negligent to levels of criminality. You know I'm gonna agree
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Speaker 1: because because once again they're doing the officer Barb Brady.
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Speaker 1: Nothing to see here, move along, just move along, there
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Speaker 1: is something to see here. I was all with Mike
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Speaker 1: la this morning on Columbus This Morning News here on
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Speaker 1: six ten the old UTV, and I think I threw
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Speaker 1: him for a loop because I said, if I were
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Speaker 1: Andy Gentther Andrew Gether mayor Geinther, if I were geinther
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Speaker 1: In this same predicament, here's what I would have done.
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Speaker 1: Called up all the news people, said, come on in,
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Speaker 1: I got to do a press conference, because they do
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Speaker 1: that very rarely unless they're throwing money away on something.
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Speaker 1: I would have called the news conference, brought everybody in
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Speaker 1: and said, here's the deal. We have been attacked by
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Speaker 1: cyber terrorists. They have seized information from the city database.
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Speaker 1: They have lots of information, and they are threatening to
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Speaker 1: put it on the dark web, make it available to
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Speaker 1: anybody who wants to buy it if we do not
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Speaker 1: pay them two million dollars. After careful consideration, I have
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Speaker 1: decided to pay the two million dollars instead of spending
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Speaker 1: twenty million dollars to go in and try to fix
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Speaker 1: what I allow them to screw up, because I want
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Speaker 1: to be a hardhead, Right, mister mayor, What if they
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Speaker 1: take your money and then they don't give the information back?
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Speaker 1: Think about this. People. Their job, as the mayor himself
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Speaker 1: pointed out yesterday, this is happening to cities all over
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Speaker 1: the country. Their job is to get you to pay.
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Speaker 1: If they take the money from Columbus, Ohio and then
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Speaker 1: they do not return the information they stole from Columbus, Ohio,
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Speaker 1: do you think Cleveland, Ohio is going to pay them?
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Speaker 1: Or Chicago, Illinois, or Las Vegas, Nevada, or New York
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Speaker 1: a hell of a town. Do you think anybody else
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Speaker 1: is going to pay them? If they don't keep their
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Speaker 1: word to us. Of course not, they would be putting
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Speaker 1: themselves out of their cyber terror business. Two million dollars
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Speaker 1: would have been a cheap fix. And uh, I'm telling
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Speaker 1: you that the lawsuits now are going to grow as well.
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Speaker 1: It's not right now you've got public employees. As soon
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Speaker 1: as a member of the public suffers detrimental effects because
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Speaker 1: their information at the City of Columbus was shared on
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Speaker 1: the dark web, there will be lawsuits citizens will file.
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Speaker 1: There will be class action lawsuits from citizens. You think
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Speaker 1: I'm wrong, Zach, You think I'm right? What do you
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Speaker 1: think you've got a beard? You tell me?
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Speaker 2: I think that they could still take the information and
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Speaker 2: sell it regardless. They're going to make money either way.
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Speaker 1: I see. I don't think they will because there's more
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Speaker 1: money to be made by getting the cities to pay
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Speaker 1: the black mail.
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Speaker 3: I get you.
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Speaker 4: I don't.
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Speaker 2: I don't know because that's a black I don't know
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Speaker 2: how much money they can get for selling that information.
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Speaker 1: You'm not racist, by the way, blackmail, now that I
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Speaker 1: think about it, I'm just saying, would if it was,
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Speaker 1: would it be? Do you call the good stuff white? Male?
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Speaker 3: I don't know the et homology of blackmail?
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Speaker 1: Where did that come from? I'll probably be black balled
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Speaker 1: for bringing that. Oh, I can't believe I said that.
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Speaker 1: I'm man a two one A two one w TV
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Speaker 1: and let's get a couple in here, shall we. Uh? Dave,
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Speaker 1: you are on the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone lines?
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Speaker 5: How are you great? How are you this evening?
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Speaker 1: I am slightly twisted otherwise.
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Speaker 5: Well, welcome to the club. I just got done telling
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Speaker 5: Zach I said, I have a perfect solution for you
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Speaker 5: to be able to get.
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Speaker 1: To all your phone callers, and that would be.
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Speaker 5: We need to get w TVN needs to give you
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Speaker 5: a three hour show.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, good luck with that. Well, who ain't gonna bump?
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Speaker 1: Nobody's getting bumped. I don't. I don't think. I don't think, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, the Clay and Buck are gonna get bumped.
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Speaker 1: I don't think Hannity's gonna get bumped. Blazer and I
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Speaker 1: have known each other for a long time and we'd
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Speaker 1: wrestle in the parking lot, but he ended up winning
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Speaker 1: because I'm old and and and you know, Mike's not
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Speaker 1: going anywhere in the morning. So unless you you don't
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Speaker 1: want any more Art and Bell there's no place to
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Speaker 1: put me.
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Speaker 5: I just I don't care to listen all the talking heads.
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Speaker 5: I listened in the morning, I listened in the afternoon.
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Speaker 5: Once you're done, I go right back to other stuff.
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Speaker 5: I wish we was all local radio here instead of
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Speaker 5: all this talking political talking head stuff. But I don't
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Speaker 5: think I'm ever gonna get my way.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well probably not, none of us ever do. But hey, Dave,
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, buddy, thanks very much for being there
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Speaker 1: when you are. You are appreciated. I mean that, every
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Speaker 1: single one of you, even you not heads that interact
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Speaker 1: with me on social media. I appreciate you. I do
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Speaker 1: well most of you. There's a couple of people, but
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying A two ninety eighty six, A two
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Speaker 1: y WTV and John, you're on the Legacy Retirement Group
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Speaker 1: dot com phone lines. How are you? My doctor has
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Speaker 1: not warned me of anything, so I'm going with good.
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Speaker 6: There you go. So tell me gif Or doesn't sound
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Speaker 6: like Kamalia.
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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. He's he's a little. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: he's a little what's the word I'm looking for. Eva.
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Speaker 1: Although he talks a lot, he doesn't say much when
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Speaker 1: he does, and I would say that they have those
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Speaker 1: what was the phrase against Zach, So we can be
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Speaker 1: unbounded by the by the scooters of what was it.
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Speaker 2: Unburdened by treus of the of the scooters tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: Or something like that. Yeah, so she's you know in
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Speaker 1: that respect. Yeah, their mouth goes and words come out,
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Speaker 1: but I never really hear anything.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's unbelievable. But you know what, people buy
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Speaker 6: it and it's getting ridiculous. It's it's crazy. Please go
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Speaker 6: out and the road. I'm starting, you know what, here's
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Speaker 6: the whole thing, Chuck, I'm starting to get scared. I'm
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Speaker 6: really starting to get scared. You look at some of
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Speaker 6: these holes that are legit, not the not the crap
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Speaker 6: they throw on the internet. But we got to get
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Speaker 6: help care and vote because I'm telling you what it's
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Speaker 6: it's going to be closer than what people think.
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Speaker 1: I just let's put up on my Facebook page today
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Speaker 1: a reminder to take advantage of early voting. Because now
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Speaker 1: the World Health Organization, and we know how much we
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Speaker 1: love them, now they're bringing back the monkey pocks, except
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Speaker 1: they call it impops now because it was offensive to monkeys.
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Speaker 1: And so now it's the impos but now they're trying
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Speaker 1: to make that into an international pandemic. Don't be surprised
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Speaker 1: if come election time people can't go to the polls
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Speaker 1: and vote because of a pandemic. I'm telling you, early vote,
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Speaker 1: early vote. You've been beaten with that stick for years.
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Speaker 1: It's time you start swinging it back.
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Speaker 6: Please, please, please, please please. I love you, Chuck. Keep
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Speaker 6: doing what you're doing.
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Speaker 1: Man, Thank you.
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Speaker 6: You need a four hour show, and you know what.
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Speaker 6: I love coast to coast, but you know what, I'll
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Speaker 6: take you a coast to coast any day.
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Speaker 1: Oh, bless your heart. You don't want me in here
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the night though you think I'm
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Speaker 1: weird during daylight hours. Oh, you don't want to see
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Speaker 1: what happens to me in the middle of the night.
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Speaker 1: I grow horns and all kinds of stuff. Steve, you're
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Speaker 1: on six ten TV and hike right.
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Speaker 4: I think I got an answer for you. It's trojan
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Speaker 4: horse virus. I don't think they take them out of there.
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Speaker 4: They get them out of there completely. Stuff. You pay
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Speaker 4: that ransom. What's to stop them from shutting everything down
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Speaker 4: against stealing more information and then holding out for ransom.
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Speaker 1: Oh, there's nothing to stop them except your efforts. I mean,
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Speaker 1: once you know what your vulnerabilities are, you patch those holes.
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Speaker 1: The trouble is there will always be another vulnerability. We
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Speaker 1: are a computer society, and no matter I mean, I
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Speaker 1: don't know. Are you a Microsoft guy? Do you have
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Speaker 1: a Windows PC?
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Speaker 4: Well? I used to, but.
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Speaker 1: There's security patches every fifteen minutes, it seems like because
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Speaker 1: uh and for the longest time, quite frankly, I thought
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Speaker 1: Steve Jobs was behind them, because Apple never seemed to
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Speaker 1: have problems with viruses, but Microsoft always did.
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Speaker 4: Could be true. I've got a friend who got downloaded something,
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Speaker 4: you know, probably surfing enough site you probably shouldn't have
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Speaker 4: been serving, accidentally downloaded something, and it's tells him when
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Speaker 4: you got this mauntware, call this number to get it fixed.
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Speaker 4: And he calls the number, and of course they charge him,
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Speaker 4: and then uh, they say, okay, it's all fixed down.
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Speaker 4: Then a couple months later pops up again and he's
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Speaker 4: got to call that number. Okay, he's got to pay again.
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Speaker 4: And I'm like, here's your problem. You're paying these hackers.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you're not fixing whatever they got in
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Speaker 1: through whichever window they came through, then you are just
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Speaker 1: allowing them to crawl through it again. You have to
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Speaker 1: fix the problem. And uh, you know, some of the
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Speaker 1: best good guys you can hire are former bad guys.
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Speaker 1: I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
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Speaker 1: what has been. I will be unburdened by trafficking weather
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Speaker 1: together right now from day and night, heating and cooling
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Speaker 1: products and deal mechanical. What's it look like? And darling, alrighty,
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Speaker 1: then we're twenty six minutes past six o'clock the power
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Speaker 1: hour on six to ten double UTV in the number
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Speaker 1: eight two one nine eight eighty six eight two one
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Speaker 1: double UTVN right now talking about Gintheruring Company. He knows
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Speaker 1: Columbus City Council members are all very quiet about this.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that I've seen any of them speak out.
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Speaker 1: It's everybody just kind of standing you go right, I have,
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Speaker 1: mister mayor, go right, go right on in there. I
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Speaker 1: don't see any of them speaking out. That's a bad sign.
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Speaker 1: When your troops leave the battlefield, you're out there with
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Speaker 1: one horse, one spear, and an approaching army. Never ever
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Speaker 1: a good sign. Also during the break here, just reading
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Speaker 1: a couple of stupid things, one of which is, uh,
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Speaker 1: they've got a rendition here of an artistic rendition of
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Speaker 1: Bobby Hill, who is going to be twenty one years old.
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Speaker 1: They are rebooting King of the Hill. Hulu is going
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Speaker 1: to carry it. Bobby, Bobby looks like Hank, and Hank
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Speaker 1: looks like an older Hank. Just say him so A
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Speaker 1: two one nine eight eighty six number eight two one
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Speaker 1: wutvn oh man? Damn where Dan go? I put my
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Speaker 1: finger on Dan's button, and there's nothing dirty about that.
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Speaker 1: And then I look over and he's gone, all right, Dan,
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Speaker 1: I don't know what. I think he was calling to
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Speaker 1: give me something about get there. But that's fine. If
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Speaker 1: you weren't with me at the beginning of the show,
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Speaker 1: first of all, shame on you. I contend that we
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Speaker 1: should have paid the two million dollar ransom. I contend
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Speaker 1: that we will pay more in now trying to put
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Speaker 1: back together, figure out protect for the future, and all
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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, and the fact that the mayor
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Speaker 1: has since the very beginning. First it was nothing, it's
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Speaker 1: nothing at all. Well it's something, but it's just a
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Speaker 1: little something. Okay, Well it's more than a little something.
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Speaker 1: It's a bigger sing. Oh lawsuits from the police, well
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Speaker 1: just just a couple, oh lawsuits from the fire department
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Speaker 1: to just a couple and now we find out just
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Speaker 1: tons of information. Good job ten TV for getting that
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Speaker 1: cybersecurity expert in there and showing just how many people
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Speaker 1: are affected by this breach. They say, anybody who swiped
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Speaker 1: their driver's license to get into city hall is in
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Speaker 1: the database. I say, if you pay a water bill,
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Speaker 1: you're in the database. If you had a traffic ticket,
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Speaker 1: you're in the database. If you've been a criminal or
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Speaker 1: a complainant with the prosecutor's office, you're in the database.
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Speaker 1: And your database is on the dark web. Keep an
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Speaker 1: eye on your checking accounts and start changing passwords. Now,
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Speaker 1: that is the best advice I can give you. Let's
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Speaker 1: get a final check here of the traffic situation out
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Speaker 1: on our highways and our byways from day and night.
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Speaker 1: Heating and cooling products and deal mechanical, how's it looking?
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Speaker 1: And six thirty four. I just I don't know, man,
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Speaker 1: I just I said I should not read stuff during
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Speaker 1: the breaks because it just makes me. It just makes
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Speaker 1: me nuts. Some of the stuff that is out here.
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Speaker 1: It just makes me nuts. And again the social media thing.
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Speaker 1: As I was saying in the last segment, if it
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Speaker 1: weren't for being able to stay in touch with most
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Speaker 1: of you, I would not be on social media. And
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Speaker 1: there are a few that make me nuts. Blazer and
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Speaker 1: I were just talking before he left the room and
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Speaker 1: I came into the room this afternoon about the fact
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Speaker 1: that you know, there are people who consistently, by the way,
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Speaker 1: it's not just like once in every bloom, they consistently
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Speaker 1: will they'll like commando a post I put something up
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Speaker 1: there that has you know, well, let's say it was
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Speaker 1: about the cybersecurity breach here in Columbus, Okay, And somehow,
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Speaker 1: some way they will turn it into a Kamala Harris
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Speaker 1: thing or Donald Trump thing, or a story about you know,
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Speaker 1: how a horse kicked them when they were a child
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Speaker 1: or whatever. They just they completely out of left field,
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Speaker 1: has nothing at all to do with whatever has been posted.
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Speaker 1: They just decide here's what I want to talk about.
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Speaker 1: Or I'll post something and say, okay, now, I don't
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Speaker 1: want you to answer this on the Facebook, on the Twitter,
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Speaker 1: or on the Instagram or on the TikTok, or we'll
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Speaker 1: talk about it on the air. Never fails. They start
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Speaker 1: doing it. I said, no, don't do it. I want
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Speaker 1: to save it for the air. They start answering there.
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Speaker 1: Or I'll say, give me a single example of the best,
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Speaker 1: the best pizza you ever had, and somebody will list
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Speaker 1: forty eight pizza joints they visited in their life, and yeah,
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Speaker 1: it gets frustrating. I mean, it's not like I'm angry.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna show up at your house and yell at
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Speaker 1: you or anything. But I don't understand why people do that.
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Speaker 1: It's just frustrating some of them. I especially those that
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Speaker 1: have been around for a long while, have been following me,
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Speaker 1: you know, station the station over the years or whatever.
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Speaker 1: I've actually sent them messages and said, you know, don't
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Speaker 1: do that. Don't do that, don't put up, you know,
18:55
Speaker 1: a commercial for your business unless you ask me first. Hey,
19:00
Speaker 1: this is my page when I come in here and
19:03
Speaker 1: I open my mouth and I talk about stuff. This
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Speaker 1: is what I'm doing for a living, and the page
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Speaker 1: is just an extension of what I do on the air.
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Speaker 1: So please don't get free commercials if you want to
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Speaker 1: advertise your a locally owned business or something like that.
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Speaker 1: Somebody that's been with me and supported me over the years.
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Speaker 1: The chances are I'm going to say, yeah, but if
19:22
Speaker 1: you just pop something in there, or here's my cousin's,
19:25
Speaker 1: you know, concrete business in Butte, Montana, I know, don't
19:29
Speaker 1: do that. Those who have sent me things this this
19:34
Speaker 1: one really gets me. I was listening to such and
19:37
Speaker 1: such on so and so, and they were saying, do
19:39
Speaker 1: you send them notes to say you were listening to
19:41
Speaker 1: me on six ' ten WTV, And and here's what
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Speaker 1: I said, that's an honest question. Come into my page
19:51
Speaker 1: to promote somebody else, somewhere else doing something that is,
19:54
Speaker 1: you know, in some cases, directly opposed to what I'm doing. Well,
19:58
Speaker 1: that's not cool at all. Now you can follow those
20:02
Speaker 1: rules and not make me crazy. Feel free to follow me.
20:04
Speaker 1: I'm on Facebook. Just look up Chuck Douglas a big
20:06
Speaker 1: melon head picture wearing a blue suit. On Instagram and
20:10
Speaker 1: Twitter it is Chuck d Talker, and on TikTok it
20:13
Speaker 1: is Chuck Douglas talker. I think that's right. Zach is
20:16
Speaker 1: supposed to keep track of that stuff for me, and
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Speaker 1: he never does.
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Speaker 3: I WHOA, what huh? I'm not supposed to have anything
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Speaker 3: to do with your search.
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Speaker 1: Yes, you are. I don't. Didn't you read your doctor
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Speaker 1: that's your job description. Are you gonna tell me it's
20:32
Speaker 1: not your job description? Now, Veronica, are you here?
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Speaker 3: Silence, No, that is not my job.
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Speaker 1: First Energy will pay twenty million dollars to avoid prosecution
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Speaker 1: in the Ohio bribery screen screen, screen? Did I say, screen? Yes?
20:50
Speaker 1: I did. I said scream wow in the Ohio bribery scheme,
20:56
Speaker 1: I said, screen. Let me just say, that's a pittance.
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Speaker 1: That's a pittance, twenty million dollars a pittance nothing. I
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Speaker 1: do not excuse anyone in the individuals or entities for
21:11
Speaker 1: that bs that they pulled on the people of the
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Speaker 1: state of Ohio. A billion dollars thrown into political pockets
21:19
Speaker 1: in order to get your way, to get legislation passed,
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Speaker 1: to get politicians who are supposed to stand up for
21:24
Speaker 1: us to stand out of your way so that you
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Speaker 1: could forge ahead with your business plan. Twenty million dollars
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Speaker 1: that ain't enough to buy a cup of coffee in
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Speaker 1: this case. I don't know how how they how they
21:38
Speaker 1: arrived at a twenty million dollar figure, but quite frankly,
21:40
Speaker 1: I'm offended by that you remembered the Trump trial in
21:44
Speaker 1: New York. What was it, eight hundred and fifty million
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Speaker 1: dollars they wanted to give him for a bond, Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump would they want They got it lowered to three fifty,
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Speaker 1: but still eight hundred and fifty And this corporate entity
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Speaker 1: that tried to corrupt the process in the state of
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Speaker 1: Ohio thought they could skate get away with it twenty
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Speaker 1: million dollars. That's nothing, absolutely nothing. I was just going
22:13
Speaker 1: back to through the Gifther stories here on the cyber attack.
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Speaker 1: This one, this one actually came from yesterday. So this
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Speaker 1: is the update that I was just ranting and raving
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Speaker 1: about the update from yesterday. I'm still in the ten
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Speaker 1: TV sit. Columbus Mayor Andrew Ginther provided an update to
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Speaker 1: the city's ongoing battle with the cyber attack, saying the
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Speaker 1: data is stolen by hackers was either corrupted or encrypted,
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Speaker 1: meaning it was likely useless. According to a fact sheet
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Speaker 1: published by the city on Tuesday, where's his little quote here,
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Speaker 1: which was you know that nothing to say. Here we
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Speaker 1: go the threat actor. They keep coming up with names,
22:43
Speaker 1: the threat actor, the cyberpunks use cyberpunks. Well, yeah, the
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Speaker 1: threat actor claimed to have six point five terabytes of data,
22:53
Speaker 1: but our forensics indicate they have far less. Oh, I'm
22:58
Speaker 1: much more comfortable now. I believe the screenshots of the
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Speaker 1: data files are the most compelling asset that they had.
23:04
Speaker 1: What's he's saying, The pictures of what they had are
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Speaker 1: the most compelled, and the sensitive files were either encrypted
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Speaker 1: or corrupted, making them totally unusable. That's what he said
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Speaker 1: yesterday and was proven wrong today. This is why I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: change your passwords, change everything, change everything.
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Speaker 3: Not to cut it. I don't mean to make a joke,
23:27
Speaker 3: but being totally serious. Do you think if they.
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Speaker 2: Like if that, if they try it again to try
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Speaker 2: to hack anything of Columbus, that they could take the
23:36
Speaker 2: food carts out after midnight that that could help.
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Speaker 1: I think if we limited the food carts to only
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Speaker 1: like between nine and nine fifteen pm, if their operation,
23:46
Speaker 1: that would solve the cybersecurity problem.
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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to help and throw ideas out.
23:51
Speaker 1: And we could get the cyber terrorists to join a
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Speaker 1: cyber midnight basketball league, which I think would really really
23:57
Speaker 1: clean up the Internet. I mean that could end all
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Speaker 1: kinds of things, cyber ransom, the whole human trafficking thing
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Speaker 1: will come to a complete halt. They keep fixing things
24:08
Speaker 1: with stuff that doesn't fix anything. I don't get you, people,
24:13
Speaker 1: I don't get you. In case you missed it in
24:15
Speaker 1: the news headlines with Grumbley, the bond was set for
24:17
Speaker 1: the officer in Blendon Township. And you know, as I
24:23
Speaker 1: said yesterday, I find it hard to believe there's even
24:27
Speaker 1: multiple indictments here. But the judge gave officer grub a
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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars cash or surty bond,
24:36
Speaker 1: as well as a twenty five thousand dollars recognissance bond.
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Speaker 1: So I'm not sure how much money needs to go.
24:45
Speaker 1: You'd have to pay twenty five thousand dollars or ten
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Speaker 1: percent to get the surety bond Right now, I don't
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Speaker 1: know what the recognissance bond for twenty five thousand is.
24:57
Speaker 1: Recognissance is the word recognized when you released on your
25:00
Speaker 1: own recognisance? Is that means you are released because the
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Speaker 1: court recognizes who you are?
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Speaker 4: Right?
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Speaker 1: Am I misreading this? The word recognisance is from recognize?
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Speaker 1: So what is a twenty five thousand dollars recognisance bond?
25:20
Speaker 1: They're charging you because they know who you are. Here's
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Speaker 1: a fee because we know who you are. And why
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Speaker 1: is it in addition to the two hundred and fifty
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars cash or surety bond after he's not guilty. Please,
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Speaker 1: I again, the numbers are lower than I expected here,
25:37
Speaker 1: But I don't understand the complication of the process. Why
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Speaker 1: do we need two different types of bonds? I'm just
25:47
Speaker 1: I don't know. And and well, I won't go well,
25:51
Speaker 1: let this thing play out for a while, but I
25:54
Speaker 1: will contend that it's it is stupid that this officer
25:56
Speaker 1: has been indicted. Is unfortunate that the young woman made
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Speaker 1: the choices that she made that day, that she lost
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Speaker 1: her life in the process. But to indict a police
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Speaker 1: officer for involuntary manslaughter and murder, how the hell you
26:10
Speaker 1: can do both at the same time. As beyond me,
26:13
Speaker 1: because he went out there and was doing his job.
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Speaker 1: As I said yesterday, it's just beyond me. I did
26:19
Speaker 1: get what one guy who I don't I don't know
26:21
Speaker 1: if he was arguing or not. I'm still I went
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Speaker 1: home last night and I was probably spent two hours
26:25
Speaker 1: trying to figure out that call. Was it Tim or Tom?
26:28
Speaker 1: Yesterday it was Doug. I think Doug.
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Speaker 3: He was arguing with you.
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Speaker 1: Just just and he kept saying, and I was trying.
26:35
Speaker 1: I listened back to the show last night, trying to
26:38
Speaker 1: figure out what he was trying to say. They didn't
26:42
Speaker 1: need to do anything because they had pictures of her
26:45
Speaker 1: stealing the liquor from the store. And I don't know
26:49
Speaker 1: what that meant. I'm not able to grasp. Okay, so
26:53
Speaker 1: they had pictures, so what And he said something about, well,
26:57
Speaker 1: you could put the pictures in the newspaper. So what,
27:04
Speaker 1: you committed a crime, you get arrested, you go to jail.
27:08
Speaker 1: And it seemed to me that he was trying to
27:10
Speaker 1: say that, you know, well, if her picture was published
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Speaker 1: and she wasn't allowed to come back in the store,
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Speaker 1: that was enough. I'm sorry, I don't I don't understand that.
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Speaker 1: And I did try. I did. I made a sincere
27:24
Speaker 1: effort to listen to the call. I did it several times,
27:29
Speaker 1: and I sat thinking, considering, translating, deciphering, doing everything I
27:37
Speaker 1: could to come up with what the guy was trying
27:40
Speaker 1: to say.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think you're overthinking it, because he said, you
27:43
Speaker 2: don't arrest somebody who's leaving the scene of a crime.
27:46
Speaker 2: You wait till they come back, and then you still
27:51
Speaker 2: don't arrest them.
27:52
Speaker 1: And then but you have a picture of them.
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Speaker 2: You have a picture of them. Yeah, So what more
27:56
Speaker 2: do you want? What don't you understand, Chuck.
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Speaker 1: I, that's just it. I don't understand any of that.
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Speaker 1: And I felt bad, honestly for not understanding because I
28:06
Speaker 1: think I think he was trying to make a point.
28:09
Speaker 1: And I seriously do try to be fair with people.
28:12
Speaker 1: I have always said, you know, I will debate, disgust,
28:15
Speaker 1: disagree as long as it's respectful. You call up and
28:18
Speaker 1: you have a differing opinion, fine, we'll talk about it.
28:21
Speaker 1: I won't be you know, yelled at or talked over
28:24
Speaker 1: or mistreated. I'll give you your opportunity to speak, you
28:27
Speaker 1: give me mine, and that's a conversation. I'm good with that.
28:30
Speaker 1: But I have to understand the basis of the conversation.
28:34
Speaker 1: And last night I failed at that. Last night I failed.
28:37
Speaker 1: I consider myself a pretty pretty decent interpreter when I'm
28:44
Speaker 1: getting and I didn't last night. Just terrible. Also, I
28:52
Speaker 1: got to say this, I woke up this morning and
28:54
Speaker 1: flipped on the television news before I get in the
28:57
Speaker 1: car with my radio. That's I generally keep the TV
28:59
Speaker 1: news on and I was sad the UDF store over
29:06
Speaker 1: on my beloved west side of Climb and Endemorist, which
29:11
Speaker 1: is comparatively a pretty nice store, you know. Well, I
29:17
Speaker 1: say comparatively, I mean with the other stores around there,
29:19
Speaker 1: the other UDFs, it feels a little more suburban and
29:24
Speaker 1: it's you know, large lots and lots of gas pumps
29:28
Speaker 1: and plenty of activity. And the first thing I hear
29:31
Speaker 1: this morning is I think he was seventeen year old
29:35
Speaker 1: that was killed over there. And apparently this came out
29:38
Speaker 1: of a road rage incident with a thirty year old man,
29:44
Speaker 1: and they caught the guy about an hour later. I
29:47
Speaker 1: don't know who this young man was, who his family was.
29:52
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm sorry that we are so out of
29:54
Speaker 1: control as a society that that that happened. I'm starting
30:00
Speaker 1: to take things really, really personally on that side of town,
30:04
Speaker 1: because we should be better overall, and because that's, you know,
30:13
Speaker 1: my home, I take it personally. So do this for
30:19
Speaker 1: me as we part ways this evening. You don't have
30:23
Speaker 1: to be overly nice. You don't have to be sacharine sweet,
30:25
Speaker 1: you don't have to be sugar coated. You don't have
30:27
Speaker 1: to take guff from anybody that wants to treat you badly,
30:30
Speaker 1: But don't go out of your way to get angry
30:33
Speaker 1: or upset about stuff. Sometimes, Really, what's it matter? I
30:42
Speaker 1: have this conversation with my grandsons all the time. Well,
30:45
Speaker 1: he said that I sow, but he said that I
30:50
Speaker 1: know no. What does it matter? What if he said
30:55
Speaker 1: that you were a tutu wearing ballerina from the planet Zorgon,
30:59
Speaker 1: are you no? Then his words didn't matter? Did they?
31:06
Speaker 1: Let people be as stupid as they want to be
31:08
Speaker 1: unless it is directly impacting you somehow, some way negatively
31:14
Speaker 1: affecting your life, your existence, your family. Just walk on by.
31:20
Speaker 1: Put Dion Warwick on if you must, But walk on by,
31:26
Speaker 1: because these days in this world, opening your mouth and
31:29
Speaker 1: saying something because you feel the need when it's not
31:34
Speaker 1: affecting you can't end up getting a shot. And we
31:40
Speaker 1: don't need that. We don't need any more of that now.
31:44
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're shot, you're beaten with. Any
31:47
Speaker 1: physical attack on you is a bad thing. But people
31:52
Speaker 1: just don't know how to They don't know how to disagree,
31:55
Speaker 1: They don't know how to come to an impasse without
31:59
Speaker 1: striking out In islands anymore, guns, knives, baseball bats, doesn't matter.
32:05
Speaker 1: Hurting somebody is just far too easy for far too
32:10
Speaker 1: many people. So if it's not, like I said, affecting
32:15
Speaker 1: your family or you know, some criminal act that you
32:19
Speaker 1: must put a stop to. If it's just somebody being
32:20
Speaker 1: an idiot, let them be an idiot. They're driving way
32:26
Speaker 1: too fast. Don't be that dummy that gets over in
32:28
Speaker 1: front of them to make them slow down. Just let
32:29
Speaker 1: them drive fast and get the help ast you and
32:31
Speaker 1: away for your family in your car. Let them go.
32:35
Speaker 1: They'll wreck up there eventually. But we just we no
32:40
Speaker 1: longer live in a world where you can say, hey, man,
32:44
Speaker 1: that's stupid. Don't do that, because there are crazy people
32:47
Speaker 1: among us, and I don't need to wake up to
32:49
Speaker 1: any more stories like this none of us do. Or
32:54
Speaker 1: maybe that's just me again. You're welcome to follow me
32:57
Speaker 1: on the social media. I would love to interact with you,
32:59
Speaker 1: as long as you're not half goofy. If you are
33:01
Speaker 1: half Goofy, Zach would love to interact with you on
33:03
Speaker 1: his pages.
33:04
Speaker 3: I need some business for my lawnmower.
33:06
Speaker 1: His stock is soaring. I noticed today it's reached almost
33:10
Speaker 1: fifteen cents of share.
33:12
Speaker 3: It's climbing.
33:13
Speaker 1: It is climbing quickly. And it's what's the name of
33:15
Speaker 1: the business again.
33:17
Speaker 3: Zach Attack propelled lawnmower business.
33:20
Speaker 1: And you you obviously you know absolutely nothing about propelled lawnmowers.
33:23
Speaker 5: Right.
33:23
Speaker 3: I fixed mine?
33:25
Speaker 1: You did it? I did? Would you do? Put gas
33:27
Speaker 1: in it?
33:27
Speaker 3: There's it wouldn't start.
33:30
Speaker 2: And so I opened the cover and there was a
33:32
Speaker 2: spring there, uh huh, and it was wasn't connected to anything.
33:35
Speaker 2: And there's this like lever that I could touch and move.
33:38
Speaker 7: Back and forth, throttle cable maybe whatever, So that I
33:41
Speaker 7: put the spring whatever against the lever and then it
33:45
Speaker 7: connected to some part of the metal proof it started
33:49
Speaker 7: right up.
33:49
Speaker 3: Okay, that's where the business came.
33:51
Speaker 1: If you want to buy stock in Zach's company, just
33:53
Speaker 1: you know, wait until it becomes real and you can.
33:56
Speaker 1: And uh, I don't want to. I don't want to.
33:59
Speaker 1: I don't want to quoteity, but I must say, let
34:02
Speaker 1: not your heart be troubled. As I am looking at
34:04
Speaker 1: more of these poll numbers, Harris leading Trump here, Harris
34:07
Speaker 1: leading Trump there, thousands turnout to guys. We're being we're
34:12
Speaker 1: we're being gaslighted. That's the popular phrase today. Gaslighted. Don't
34:17
Speaker 1: believe the hype. Remain diligent. Talk to friends, family, neighbors, whatever.
34:22
Speaker 1: Put those signs in your yard, put that flag up,
34:25
Speaker 1: do it and vote. Vote early if you can, because
34:29
Speaker 1: I'm telling you this monkey pox thing. My gut tells
34:32
Speaker 1: me they're going to find a way to slow us
34:33
Speaker 1: down with another pandemic. Take advantage of what's available to you.
34:37
Speaker 1: I gotta get out of here. We'll do it again
34:39
Speaker 1: tomorrow night at six o'clock. I hope you will join
34:41
Speaker 1: me here for the Power Hour on six ten WTVN.