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Hot and Heavy Colton with Michelle Money · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: i R Radio. We have another episode of the Almost
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  Speaker 1: Famous podcast this week. I'm not just talking to myself.
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  Speaker 1: We realized last week that is as hard as that was,
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  Speaker 1: it probably wasn't the best idea to do two weeks
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  Speaker 1: in a row. So we brought in one of Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: Nation's favorite contestants. I mean, she is iconic, she is
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  Speaker 1: long lasting, she's beautiful. Michelle Money. Welcome to the podcast. Hey, then,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for happen me. This is so fun. You might
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  Speaker 1: be asking, you know why Ashley and I are in
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  Speaker 1: the same room. No, we don't hate each other. We
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  Speaker 1: love each other very much. It's been two weeks in
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  Speaker 1: a row. Actually, it's just a big deal. Like, she's
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  Speaker 1: just got a lot of things going on. She's got
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  Speaker 1: a very special announcement coming up this week, so make
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  Speaker 1: sure you tune into her social channels to find out
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  Speaker 1: what she's going to be talking about. She couldn't be
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  Speaker 1: in studio today, so we brought Michelle Money in to
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  Speaker 1: break down the episode with me do a couple of
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  Speaker 1: really exciting interviews. We have Sydney who left uh Colton's
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  Speaker 1: episode on her own accord uh this week, and also
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  Speaker 1: we have the Bachelor producers from Vietnam on the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna give us a little dirt, a little insight,
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  Speaker 1: and a little background about how The Bachelor Vietnam was created.
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  Speaker 1: But before we do any of that, Michelle Money, what
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  Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Colton Underwood? Oh my gosh, I
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  Speaker 1: am so he is so refreshing for me. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what I think. At first, I was a little
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  Speaker 1: nervous that he was going to come across arrogant, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know hockey, but she's actually really I'm really impressed
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  Speaker 1: by him and the more I see him um handling
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  Speaker 1: these situations and all these be Sorry, guys, just a glass. No,
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  Speaker 1: we just tossing stuff over there. Well it together, Ben anyway, No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm super impressed with him. I really, I really think
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  Speaker 1: he's I think he's a genuine good dude. So, Michelle,
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  Speaker 1: let me ask you a few questions about Colton that
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  Speaker 1: we haven't talked about yet on the podcast. Do you
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  Speaker 1: remember a couple months ago when there's a whole hashtag
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  Speaker 1: going around not my Bachelor? Yeah, you do? Things have
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  Speaker 1: changed a little bit, Huh. I feel like they've changed.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't been checking out any hashtags lately, but it does.
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  Speaker 1: It does seem like, I don't know, it feels it
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  Speaker 1: feels like there's a shift. Yeah, you know, I think
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons. Here's my theory. I was
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  Speaker 1: able to meet with Colton. It wasn't aired. I get
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  Speaker 1: cut from this show all the time. It's it's actually
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  Speaker 1: kind of funny. Every season I seem to go on
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  Speaker 1: or filming a piece and then most seasons that never airs, which,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what that's telling me. I
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  Speaker 1: think they're trying to humble me a bit. But anyways,
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  Speaker 1: I met with Colton before this whole thing started on
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  Speaker 1: on camera, and when I sit sat down with him.
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  Speaker 1: He was nervous, he was anxious, he was a little
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  Speaker 1: bit confused, and he felt very unworthy of being the bachelor,
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  Speaker 1: which is perfect for everybody watching because you want a
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  Speaker 1: humble bachelor. Nobody if you just think of the concept
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  Speaker 1: of a bachelor bachelor, like nobody is worthy to be
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  Speaker 1: the Bachelor bachelor and nobody is worried had twenty plus
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  Speaker 1: people seeking after them. Nobody's that cool. And when the
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  Speaker 1: less cool you feel going in, I think the better
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  Speaker 1: bachelor bachelor you'll be. That's probably totally true. Yeah, he uh,
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  Speaker 1: He's kind of won the hearts over of of Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: Nation and it hasn't stopped this week. His social I
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  Speaker 1: will say this about cold, and his social has doubled,
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  Speaker 1: Like his activity on social has doubled in the last
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  Speaker 1: couple of months. So I have a feeling he's going
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  Speaker 1: to come out of this whole thing either very popular
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  Speaker 1: or he's gonna get himself into trouble by posting too much,
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  Speaker 1: one of those two things. But I'm meeting with him
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  Speaker 1: the night and I want to ask him about it,
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  Speaker 1: ask him. I love he posted this photo of him
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  Speaker 1: when he was like in high school in like some
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  Speaker 1: white like really big talks that did not and he
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  Speaker 1: looks like a totally different person. But I think it's
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  Speaker 1: so cool and people can be kind of vulnerable enough
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  Speaker 1: to put themselves out there in a way that's like,
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  Speaker 1: this is maybe not the best photo of me, and
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  Speaker 1: look at me now, like he it was very It
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  Speaker 1: was a very humble cool posts that I thought said
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  Speaker 1: a lot about him. Have you always been good looking?
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  Speaker 1: Were you like good looking in high school and middle
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  Speaker 1: school and elementary school? Ridiculously good luck, like always like
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  Speaker 1: the top of the class, never had snaggle tooth, never
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  Speaker 1: had a really bad bang that was permed by my mom,
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  Speaker 1: and like none of that happened. It was weird. I
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  Speaker 1: just came like this, you wanted a little interesting fact
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  Speaker 1: about Michelle Money that I just learned. What a fact.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a fact, it's a Chris Harrison tidbit. So
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  Speaker 1: Chris Harrison just revealed on Janna Kramer's podcast that the
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  Speaker 1: one woman he thought should have become the Bachelorette that
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  Speaker 1: didn't was Michelle Money. He also said Claire Crawley. He
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  Speaker 1: said those were the two that he thought should have
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  Speaker 1: become that that's so sweet and I'll pay him later.
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  Speaker 1: But um, that's funny. Uh. No, Ben, the correct answers, No, I've,
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  Speaker 1: I've I've spent a lot of money to look this.
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  Speaker 1: Uh Michelle, everybody's wondering, are you dating? I am. I
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  Speaker 1: have the most incredible love of my life boyfriend. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: so happy. We've been together for almost three years. Um, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm really really, I'm really happy. Good for you. Professional golfer,
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  Speaker 1: Yeah he is. Yes, then he's like your dream man.
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  Speaker 1: He's a professional golfer. Yeah, he's everything I'd ever want
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  Speaker 1: to be. But I'm not. Yeah, I I practice enough
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  Speaker 1: to be a professional golfer. Do you I see I
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  Speaker 1: see post there? Did I see you? Last year? I
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  Speaker 1: shall put a lot of these events acting like I belong,
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  Speaker 1: and I wear nice clothes, and I bring my golf
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  Speaker 1: clubs to see if anybody's gonna ask me to play.
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  Speaker 1: Typically they don't, but at least I'm there. Well, Harrison
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  Speaker 1: is a good golfer. He is, he is, and he
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  Speaker 1: just got back from the A T. T. Pebble Beach.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody out there listening to make sure you check out
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  Speaker 1: Chris Harrison's social Not only has he announced his newfound
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  Speaker 1: love Lauren Ziema, but he also just got done playing
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  Speaker 1: at the A T and T Pebble Beach. He's a
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  Speaker 1: really good golfer. He's a lot of fun doing it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to convince him to play with me in
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  Speaker 1: a couple of outings this year. So if that happens,
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  Speaker 1: you know that I'll be a happy guy because I
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  Speaker 1: need to play some more golf. Chris Gerson Michelle. Before
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  Speaker 1: we break down this episode, and it's a good one.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's juicy, and we have some very, very
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  Speaker 1: talented and great interviews coming up. We had to catch
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  Speaker 1: thank you, Ben, Gary and I are on the road
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  Speaker 1: in the studio, Ben Michelle. This week's episode of The Bachelor,
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  Speaker 1: we had to see some drama played out. Let's start
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  Speaker 1: with talking about maybe the biggest dramatic storyline of this episode,
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  Speaker 1: which was Nicole and on Yanka. They gotten a tiff,
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  Speaker 1: a little battle, and Cole and sends them both home.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think you made the right decision? I do,
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  Speaker 1: But I want to break this down. This is what's
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  Speaker 1: so fascinating to me. It's un it's just so interesting
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  Speaker 1: how it's just a great reminder for us as as
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  Speaker 1: viewers watching the show. I think you can watch this
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  Speaker 1: show and take so much of it and applied to
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  Speaker 1: your life and learn and go from it. And I
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  Speaker 1: think this is one of those experiences where you're like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know, an Yanka thought she was doing the right
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  Speaker 1: thing by taking information from release that she assumed to
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  Speaker 1: be true. However, it was none of her business and
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  Speaker 1: she kind of stopped, you know, into a territory that
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  Speaker 1: wasn't really I don't know again, not not really her business,
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  Speaker 1: but it turned into this bigger deal that did not
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  Speaker 1: need to happen, and um, you know, it sounds to
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  Speaker 1: me like that wasn't the context in which it's the
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  Speaker 1: statement of her wanting to use this as an opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to leave Miami. It sounds like that was taken out
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  Speaker 1: of context. And it's just so important for us to remember,
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  Speaker 1: like we have to be so careful how we're relaying
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  Speaker 1: messages like gossiping, how we're taking you know, story raising,
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  Speaker 1: not really if it doesn't come straight from the horse's mouth,
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  Speaker 1: we really don't know if it's true or not. And
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  Speaker 1: this is just a sad example of what can happen
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  Speaker 1: when you aren't minding your own business and when you
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  Speaker 1: aren't there to hear the actual words come out of
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  Speaker 1: someone's mouth, and I think unfortunately it just unraveled into
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  Speaker 1: both women bringing out the worst in each other, and
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  Speaker 1: unfortunately Colton having to witness that firsthand. Yeah, you know
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  Speaker 1: it was great, Michelle, are almost as Facebook group kind
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  Speaker 1: of blew up over this topic. We have a great
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  Speaker 1: Facebook group, by the way, a really good community of people.
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  Speaker 1: They actually this week one of the leaders of the
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  Speaker 1: Facebook group had a birthday and the whole group, uh
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  Speaker 1: started tweeting at me to say, what's your having birthday?
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  Speaker 1: So I did, um. But we have a lot of
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  Speaker 1: good support out there. But I always like to read
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  Speaker 1: the Facebook group because it does give me insight into
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  Speaker 1: how Bachelor Nation is feeling a little bit in your
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  Speaker 1: spot on last week on the episode, we talked about
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  Speaker 1: playing the game of telephone, right. I mean, it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of like that game where one person tells one person
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  Speaker 1: one thing and the next person tells another person another thing,
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  Speaker 1: and by the time it gets to the final result
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  Speaker 1: that the story has changed completely. Unfortunately, though, everybody suffered
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  Speaker 1: because of this, And and that's where I think the
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  Speaker 1: question of what did he do the right thing comes
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  Speaker 1: in mind for me, is because Nicole really didn't do
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  Speaker 1: anything wrong. She she didn't say or it did. It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't setting in the context that it was being communicated
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  Speaker 1: the Colton do the right thing and just saying you
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  Speaker 1: know what, I can't deal with this in general. I
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  Speaker 1: mean Nicole, really, I feel like she took the worst
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  Speaker 1: part of this. I agree, but I think the way
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  Speaker 1: that she handled it said a lot to not that
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  Speaker 1: there's any like right or wrong way to handle something
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine having been put in her situation. But unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: I think on top of being in this super unique,
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  Speaker 1: like high emotions, super like competitive environment, it just when
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  Speaker 1: when stressful situations happened like this, it says a lot
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  Speaker 1: about how you handle those situations. And I don't necessarily
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  Speaker 1: know if I don't know what the right thing to
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  Speaker 1: do is, but I it just didn't bring out the
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  Speaker 1: best in either of them, unfortunately, And and Holton was
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  Speaker 1: there to witness that firsthand, and I guess made that
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  Speaker 1: decision on his own. Um, what would you have done? Ben? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to say. I don't think Colton. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I can't say Colton did the wrong thing here because
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  Speaker 1: I think you're kind of You're very right in the
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  Speaker 1: sense of there's so much pressure, there's so much going
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  Speaker 1: around around you, on around you. At all times. You're
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  Speaker 1: trying to keep your head above water, and at some
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  Speaker 1: point when something like this comes up, you weigh your options.
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  Speaker 1: You Okay, obviously he if we're truthful, he wasn't that
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  Speaker 1: ending the coal and he wasn't the end of Anko
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  Speaker 1: because he would have kept them around. Um. But instead
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  Speaker 1: he said, you know what, like I'm just this is
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  Speaker 1: just best if we clean the slate here, if we
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  Speaker 1: just start start over, take this situation and kind of
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  Speaker 1: separate it from this group and move forward with the
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  Speaker 1: women that I know I want to be with. So
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  Speaker 1: I think he did the right thing. Uh. I would
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  Speaker 1: like to ask you, Michelle, before we get into the
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  Speaker 1: one on one day with Hannah ge and oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: there was one on one day and a half. I
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  Speaker 1: was gonna say, I felt all sorts of weird in here.
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  Speaker 1: Uh that's a lot. But before we get into that,
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  Speaker 1: you've been on the show. You've done well at the show,
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  Speaker 1: and when I mean when I what I say by
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  Speaker 1: that is you were yourself. You're authentic and you're true
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  Speaker 1: to yourself. Uh. You pursue this thing the best you
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  Speaker 1: possibly could. What would be your advice to anybody out
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  Speaker 1: there that's putting a pressured situation that's trying to explain
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  Speaker 1: themselves on this show? What kind of thought process do
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  Speaker 1: you go through to kind of decide what's true and
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  Speaker 1: what's not and what do you share with the Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: and what you don't when you're actually on the show.
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  Speaker 1: Is that you're saying, yeah, when you're on the show, Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's so hard to answer that question because it
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  Speaker 1: is so complete. It is such a completely different world.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's shocking to me to look back and
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  Speaker 1: think about how I went into that show, The Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: in particular, thinking that I was a pretty normal woman,
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  Speaker 1: and left feeling like maybe I'm actually super jealous and
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  Speaker 1: insecure and actually like I don't even know who I am.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's fascinating the world that they create that that
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  Speaker 1: makes brings out the worst in you. I mean, we're
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  Speaker 1: talking like the jealousy, the competition, sizing yourself up, like
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  Speaker 1: am I good enough? Is am I pretty enough? I've
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  Speaker 1: never felt emotions like that in my whole life until
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  Speaker 1: going on that show, and and so it it's easy
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  Speaker 1: for me to sit here and say, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: remember who you are, Remember like be present, like take
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  Speaker 1: a breath, like remember that this isn't a real world
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  Speaker 1: you're living in, and align with your your your true self.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, until you're walking in someone's shoes, until
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  Speaker 1: you're actually in that situation, it's so hard to even
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  Speaker 1: give like valid advice. Do you know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: Does that make sense? I almost don't know how to
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  Speaker 1: answer that. Yeah, you know, I know exactly what you're saying.
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  Speaker 1: You're touching on something that our listeners always love to hear,
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  Speaker 1: and it's true and authenticity and vulnerability that crosses the
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  Speaker 1: I guess what you watch on TV and it's the Hey,
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  Speaker 1: this is really hard when you're in it. You're experiencing
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  Speaker 1: things you've never experienced before. You're competing or seeing fighting
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  Speaker 1: after somebody you probably care a little bit about. You
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  Speaker 1: might not fall in love with the bachelor Bachelor, but
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  Speaker 1: you care about them. You want to be there because
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  Speaker 1: you have friends there, You're experiencing amazing things, and at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day, you also probably you know,
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  Speaker 1: have this interest and intrigue into who the lead is
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  Speaker 1: and all these things. It puts a pressure cooker around you,
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  Speaker 1: and you get insecure because there's everybody's around you is
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  Speaker 1: good looking and they're confident, and they're you know, coming
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  Speaker 1: off and edible in their dress. Nice. All these things
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  Speaker 1: are hard and it's not your typical environment and people
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  Speaker 1: react differently to it, and we have to understand why
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  Speaker 1: and give grace in those situations because this is not easy.
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  Speaker 1: It's not as easy as it looks on television. It's
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  Speaker 1: really hard. We watch two hours every week of what
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  Speaker 1: do you think? Um, I mean, it's almost twenty four
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  Speaker 1: seven filming. I mean, there's a lot of stuff going
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  Speaker 1: on that we don't get to see that's exhausting. And
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  Speaker 1: when you get exhausted by all this, Michelle, we've got
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  Speaker 1: this next little segment talking about the energy one on
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  Speaker 1: one you do. I mean, I'm in a happy relationship
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  Speaker 1: with a man. Meanwhile, I want to be taking a
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  Speaker 1: mud bath with Hannah. Gee. I was gonna say, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how to talk about this without like, sometimes
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I get giddy, but sometimes I just feel weird. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: I just kind of feel weird and giddy, like I
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  Speaker 1: watched this and I didn't know how to feel. Um,
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  Speaker 1: would you like to bring David the Chicken man into
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: this conversation? He's on the phone. Nobody that my mark.
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  Speaker 1: There's nobody that makes situations less awkward than David the Chicken,
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, please bring him in. Can we call him up?
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  Speaker 1: He's right here. And by the way, we got an
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  Speaker 1: email from Nicole saying, can you please bring David the
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Chicken back on the podcast? He was so funny when
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: you guys had him on all the time, and he
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: hasn't but not it forever thank you. Yeah, David, you
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: out there, buddy? Hey Ben, Hey Ashley, how's it going.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's you've already made this awkward, David. It's it's
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: it's confusing. I know I'm filling in for Ashley. It's
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Michelle Money. How are you hey? What's going on, Michelle?
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I'm well, I'm well good. Thanks for having me, guys, Michelle.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: One thing you might not know about David is not
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: only is he incredibly good looking, Tan and um just
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: super cares Mack, he's also super smart. So let's catch
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: up with him. David. You're getting your You're what masters
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: right now? Yeah? I'm getting my MBA at the University
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: of Miami. Enjoying the like down here in Miami. It's
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: pretty fun. What does that mean? Are you shirtless at
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: the bar every weekend? Right now? I'm actually on campus,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: but there is a bar on campus, so I could
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: be incredible. M David. What do you think so far
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: of this year's season with Colton? So, to be completely honest,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I actually haven't been able to watch everything. I've watched
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: clips and read a lot um From everything I see
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: and everything, I know, he's doing a great job. And
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: you know, he's uh, like he's enjoying the whole entire journey,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: and you know he's having fun with it. It looks
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: like um, and you know, I think it's been a
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: great season so far from what I've seen. Is there
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: any moment in the last year and a half that
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: you've been watching this show and been like that should
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: have been me? I know, not at all. Uh, you know,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I'm happy without think that turned out. Happy to be
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: in school. Um, I'm good with where I am in life.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: That's great. I've always loved you, David, you know that. Um.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I liked it when you came on the podcast more.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I feel like once you started getting smarter and more
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: edge located, you stopped coming on the almost famous podcast.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you why, no, no, you guys
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: just didn't call me. I love I love chatting with
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: you guys and love you too. Then, um, you know,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's really fun to have, you know,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: have Bachelor in part of my life and it'll always
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: be part of my life. But that's exactly what it is.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: You know, it's a part of my life. It's not
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: my end all be all, and um, you know, it's
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: just it's a great aspect of you know what I
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: did and I'm happy I did it, you know what
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I mean. That's how often the two of you get
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: recognized now, Uh, just walking around town or on the
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: streets and people say you're so and so from the Bachelor.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: You answer that first, David the Chicken and how about you? Well,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: it's so so Living in Utah, I hosted a talk
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: show for like three years. A lot of I was
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: on TV at home in Utah too, so a lot
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: of times people would recognize me from good things you
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: taught or from the Bachelor. But it just depends on when,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: and it just depends on on when and where, like
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: what's actually going on, Like yeah, exactly, Um, I completely agree.
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  Speaker 1: And um, you know it's really dependent on where I go.
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  Speaker 1: If I go to Ah, let's say bar where it's
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: the watcher's demographic, Yeah, sure, Um, you know, people are
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: going to recognize me and people will come up and
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  Speaker 1: say hello, and it's really fun. I mean, my friends
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: love it. My friends loves being you know when that happens,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: and it's it's really it's it's really cool and like
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: one of the things that I've never thought before, like
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: people would recognize me oh my god, it must have
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: done something really cool. So I don't know, it's fun. Ben.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: How often are you do you get recognized? I feel
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: like a lot. Yeah, Like I feel like when you
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: are yeah, did you like always said that was so
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: much confidence. I've been thinking about this. Basically I thought
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: it would stop, but I feel like Bachelor Nation just
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: either continues to grow or that I just run into
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: random people at random times. But I mean, I think
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: any place, especially like airports or stuff like that, like
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: people love this show so much and so yeah, people
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: seem to still you stop and say hey, you're so
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: and so. I mean, I'm three years out on this
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: thing and people. I feel people can pick up on
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: your energy, like if you're like if I'm like open
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: and like my head's up and I'm like, people will
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: come approach me more often about like if I'm my
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: head's down, I'm like on my phone, people kind of
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: like are a lot more reluctant to come say anything.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I always love it when people do. It makes me
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: feel so special and people are so nice. And I
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: think one of one of the interesting things is when
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I when I meet people and I'm you know, very
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: self aware of kind of how the show went, and
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: they'll say, oh, here's the Here's the one thing you
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: know about David is he likes to describe himself. He's
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: very self aware, all right, So in any case, but
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: when when people you know come up and talk to
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: them for call it five ten minutes, um, and you know,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I'm just me, and you know, they end up saying, Wow,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: you're actually you know, you're really nice in person. You
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: know you didn't necessarily come off that way on the show.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: And that's the same same I get that too, broth.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: You know, it's just like, I know, I wish I
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: could talk to all those people out there, but I can.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: And you know, it's just fun to actually show people
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: who I am in person and talk with the real
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: may if you will. I like to think that the
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast did a really good job at kind
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: of reinventing who you are to the public. I think
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I think we can all take credit. I heart video
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: can for letting people know the real David. You know what,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I get a lot before we let you go, David,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: I know you've got a lot of studying to do
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: and all catching up. Um. I get one of two things.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Most of the time, let's say three things. Every interaction
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I have mostly starts with are you been by They
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: look at me like I don't really know if you
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: are not, which then follows with your last skinnier on TV,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: or it's you know what, you actually are better looking
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: in person, and it's like this always like that doesn't
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: like you on the show kind of stuff. Yeah, and
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the whole time you're kind of wondering, you know, feel
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: like thank you a question mark, thank you, I say,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I'm no longer into this. Hey, David, thank you so
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: much for coming on the podcast. Come back sometime. We
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: can't have you disappear on us. And if I never
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: see a picture of you online with your shirt off
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: at a club in Miami, I'm gonna be very upset
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: with you. But then we'll have podcast. I can't promise that.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: The last thing I'll day is um, I just want
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: to congratulate my sister. She just had her first baby overnight,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: baby boy named Dylan Cooper, and just want to congratulate her.
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  Speaker 1: Alrighty guys, I'll talk to you guys later. Have a
• 27:00
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• 27:06
  Speaker 1: a fourteen year old No, I have a fourteen year old.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: She just turned fourteen a few days ago. Does she
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  Speaker 1: watch the show? Absolutely not. I'm glad you didn't watch
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  Speaker 1: been waiting for actions. What's one word you used to
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: describe the colden hander g one on one? Just hot,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: mainly just sexy hot sexual. There's so many words which
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know. There's a lot. What's your word? There's
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: a lot, I don't know. I'm going to throw this
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: one up to the listeners. Listeners, after watching this week's
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: episode with Colton and Hannah, g use one word? Can
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• 29:23
  Speaker 1: would use to describe this date. I have the word
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: what is it erotic? Yeah? I think that's perfect. That's
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: exactly Yeah. It was very erotic. It was answer is erotic?
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: It was a lot to watch. It wasn't. Here's the deal.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I just have to say this, Okay, So Hannah g
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: has kind of just been like she's a little bit
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: more meek and soft and sweet and and then but
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: when she gets those sexual like juice is flowing, she
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: just comes alive. And so we call it sexual juices,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: sexual uses flowing. I mean, I know, I'm so sorry,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: but I just I love a girl that just owns
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: her sexuality because not only is she making out with Colton,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: there's like producers, camera guys, there's people all up in
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: her grill, and she's just in the moment. Man, she
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: is feeling it. She is going after it. She is
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: not holding back. She is letting her feminine power take
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: over that mud bath, that massage table, and she is
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: enjoying every second of it as she should, as she should.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: You you know you're right, and let's like, let's stop
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: for a second, because yes, I think it's terrific. It's
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: still hard to watch, Like it's still weird to watch,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: is it, though? No, Well this is it's like, my buddy.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: So here's the deal. I want to see Colton tonight
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: at his wine opening. He's starting a wine brand for
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: his nonprofit and I have to look at this dude
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: in the eyes after just like I know what was happening. Yeah, yeah,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know if I like that. I don't
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: know if there's any of my friends that I enjoy
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: getting that close to something so intimate. Well, the first
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: thing I think of is her parents, like her family.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: It's like that that yeah man, she yep, she forgot
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: that was going to be a thing, and Grandma is
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: going to be thrilled. But I do, I do have
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: to give it to her because I I think that
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: it's it's important and it's okay, and it's a beautiful
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: part of our sexuality to be able to express ourselves sexually.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: And I think it's she just went for it and
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: he was loving it. And you can tell that their
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: chemistry is like off the charts right like it's they
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: it's there and it is strong and it is alive,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: and it's yeah it is. I wonder if I want
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: to sit on this for a little bit, because I
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: think this is actually more than anything, I really important
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: part of this whole season is this date because I
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: do think we saw the chemistry. I thought we saw
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: the two of them come to live together. I thought,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: you know, for weeks, we've kind of wondered, where's hand
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: to ge sitting this whole thing. She's quiet, she's me
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: she's she's a little bit more subdued, and so like,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: we don't know where they stand anymore. And then this happens,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: and once they get together one on one her, you know,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: they come alive together. And I think we saw that.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: So here's the question. Do you think Colton and the
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: show knew how much their physical chemistry was kind of brewing?
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: And so they picked the sexiest day alive to sit
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: them together with it in so that they're mudded up
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: in bathing suits together on massage beds like this. This
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: had to be a little bit playing. This isn't happening
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: with everybody. No, I think you're totally right because the
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: episode where they made out in the bed, you could
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: tell that there was just like there was chemistry. And
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: and this is the other thing I want to say
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: about Hannah Gy that I've found to be really refreshing
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: is there was a conversation between Cassie and Kaylin where
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: they were kind of alluding to the fact that, like
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Hannah Gee, there's not a lot of depth to her.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: She's she's kind of been um had to use her
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: beauty to get this far in life. It will be
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: interesting to see how this date goes kind of a
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: deal and I just have to say, like, I find
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: it like I found I was so drawn to Hannah
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Gee after the conversation they had at dinner where she
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: opened up about the divorce of her parents and and
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I think it's easy to assume that these beautiful girls
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: don't have a lot of depth to them, and yeah,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: they might be these sexual beings as well, but there
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: is depth to Hannah Gee that like she might just
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: not be opening up to you, right, like this girl,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: how I think. I think Hannah Gee seems to have
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of depth, and she seems to be very
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: self aware, and I think she's a smart, beautiful woman
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: who also steps into her sexuality that I think is
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: powerful and important. And so I found it to be
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: incredibly refreshing. And I really think that, Um, just because
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: she's this beautiful little bombshell, you know, doesn't mean there's
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: not really, you know, like incredible depth there. Yeah, I
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: have a question. I want to pause for a second
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: and just take this off. You just mentioned that you
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: have a fourteen year old daughter, Um, how then do
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: you have these kind of conversations with your daughter? As
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously you know the show is really popular
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: in pop culture. People your daughter's age are starting to
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: watch it. Are you starting to kind of have these
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: talks or if for anybody out there listening is a
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: mom or has a young young child, how do you
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: recommend those parents connecting with their children to have these open,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: honest dialogues about what they're feeling, what they're experiencing, and
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: and who they're becoming. Well, I think it's incredibly important
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: to have the conversation with your children at some age.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: I think you can be sixteen and be very immature.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: You can also be twelve and be very mature, right,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: So I think it's an intuitive thing, but I think
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: it's so important to to talk to our children about
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: those sexual feelings about you know, our hormones and the
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: feelings that come up in our body. They're very real
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: and they're very powerful, and it's important to understand them
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: and to know that there's nothing wrong with that and
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: that they're just it's a normal part of being a human.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: And when you feel shame around that or you feel
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: embarrassed because of it. It's that's not empowering these young girls,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: but but giving them the information and helping them, um
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: understand that it's a it's a sacred, special part of
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: being a woman, and it's important to to understand it
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: and to feel it. But to um two, only give
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: that away when you feel comfortable giving that away, And
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: that no one should be touching your body without your permission,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: that even if someone hugs you like and that you
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: didn't ask for that. Like. It's just so orton for
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: these young girls and for all women to to step
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: into their power and to step until step into their
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: sexual power and um and not give that away uh frivolously,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: but to to see it as the as the feminine
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: power that we all have within us. Wow, that's terrific.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: That's how I feel. I bet you're a great mom.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen you around your daughter, but you're a
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: probably fantastic mother. The so Colton and Hannah Gee have
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: a very erotic, sexy, steamy date. Here's one thing. I
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: got an email that said, uh, and this just came
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: to my personal email, kind of kind of funny, but
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: they said, one thing that knows about Colton is. He
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: loves to grab the butt. He's a big greaty grabber.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: He is, And I noticed watching this episode he's a
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: big booty grabber. Yeah, just took that out for all
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: your listeners out there, Um, Colton's booty grabber. Hey. Uh,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: so we're taking off this date and the one on
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: one uh with Hannah g and the girls now are jealous.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: They're nervous about his connection with Hannah because they can
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: sense it. They can feel it, they can see it.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Something is going on. There is Hannah Gee one of
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: your front runners. Yeah, like top two um up to
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: this point, from what I know of her and what
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I've seen of her, Yeah, man, she might be Yeah,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: I agree, So we're moving on. Then he has a
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: great date with Hannah Ge. The episode takes us to
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: a place where we start seeing Sydney melting down a bit.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: She's starting to kind of get the lease syndrome where
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: this isn't working for her. Uh. They haven't had enough time.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Her connection with Colton is fading, and she she kind
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: of wanted wants to get back home. I don't want
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: to assume anything on her behalf, and that's why we're
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: bringing her on the podcast, Sydney, thanks for joining the
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast. Hi guys, what's up, Sydney. I'm so
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: excited to talk to you. I feel like I have
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: seventeen million questions. Okay, First of all, you guys, you
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: have been so delightful to watch on my television, like
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: you really are and it sounds like all the girls
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: love you. You just have carried yourself with such class
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: and you're such a beauty and I just am so
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: impressed by you from start to finish. Thank you. That's
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: so sweet. I mean, it's really hard to do and
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: certain like situations, so I appreciate you for saying that
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: the you know, Michelle's were preparing for this podcast. Uh
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: really did, Sydney. She just said she's proud of you.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: She's excited to talk to you, Sydney. I want to
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: know a little bit of background, right so for anybody
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: out there listening. Some people listen to this podcast and
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: they haven't gotten to watch every episode. If you don't
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: mind giving our listeners a little bit of background about
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: who you are, your time on the Bachelor, and then
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: let's end it with you talking about kind of your
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: thoughts and nerves and how long those lasted leading up
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: to your time to say goodbye to Colton. Okay, yeah, sure,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: So I guess from the show um perspective, I'm like
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the dancer girl that came from New York, UM, who
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: essentially left her job to pursue Colton. So I think
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: that's like how America was first introduced to me. And yeah,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: that's how my journey kind of started on the show. Um,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I've been a dancer since I was like three, So
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: that's like something that's very special to me and something
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: that I've always like worked very hard at and always
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: been like a huge punt of my life. So that's
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: like my background. And then I think on the show,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: you didn't see a ton of me always, but whenever
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: you did see me, I had some key moments that
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I was, uh the girl that was like stretching with
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Colton that one episode, Um, I was one banging pots
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: and parents another episode and yeah, and then ultimately I'm
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I had like a very big conversation at the end
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: with him before my ultimate leaving the show. So that's
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: the little bit about me on the show. Other than that, Um,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I'm rem Virginia Beach. I grew up there actually school
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: and I think Burnham's hometown, which was really funny. UM.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: So I grew up there was a beach girl. I
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: started dancing, like I said, when I was really young,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: and I was like always a huge part of my
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: life and I decided to keep pursuing it once I
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: graduated high school and I went to school UM in
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: the city at Marymount and graduated, I started the whole
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: auditioning circuit UM thing that you do in New York,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: and I ended up joining UM, an NBA dance team
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: in the city and I did that for two years,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: which was ended up being the job that I left
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: in order to go onto the show. So it's a
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: little bit about me in the nutshell. I love it.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: I love it, and it sounds like you're super ambitious
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: and just kind of a woman who knows what she wants,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: which is what I loved. I'm seeing you step into
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: in the episode where you had this hard conversation. I
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: want to just ask you quickly, was was this like
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: built up emotion or did it kind of just like
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: erupt on this particular date. Well, with that last day,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: it was definitely not what I had planned for. I
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: think the build up for me was that I felt
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: like every time I talked to him, like it was
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: always a great conversation and we always had a good
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: time with one another, but anytime I asked him like
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: harder questions, the things that I needed to know about
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: him in order for me to really like know that
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: I can progress with him and actually like see myself
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: at the end of this with him. Because I was
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: really serious about getting to the like nitty gritty of things,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I never really thought the answers that I wanted, and
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: I never felt I felt like he didn't want to
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: connect with me on that level for whatever reason. So
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: then that last date, it was a lot of doing
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: that the whole time I was there, and then by
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: the last day, I was like, well, listen, like we're
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: getting very close to hometowns and I've never personally brought
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: anyone home to meet my family. I've never had work
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: them before, and it's something I take very seriously. So
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going to take this serious now,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: and like, can you change you're you've been doing with me?
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Can you actually like fight for me and like be
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: the man that I need you to be, because it's
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: not like it doesn't make sense for me to stay
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: here anymore and just be like a placeholder. So yeah,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: that's essentially what my terms were at the end, and
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I didn't expect to be leaving the way I did.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: But um, what do you mean you what do you mean?
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: You didn't expect to be? Like? What were you expecting?
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I expected to feel when I brought that up to him,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: I was hoping that he would be like, yeah, like
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: I want to fight for this, like I feel good
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: about this, like I see a sound connection. And I
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: didn't get that, and I was like, oh, okay, so shoe,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: now I should probably go because he's not going to
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: do it for me. He's not going to get there
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: for me. So yeah, that's what happened. So you went
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: to him, which is common in relationships. I've done that
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: a couple of times. I don't know if you have, Michelle,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: but you know, you're you're doubting something, you're questioning something.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: It's hard to go out of your way and get
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: there like the truthful answer or the vulnerable answer. So
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: kind of approach it like Sidney did. She goes, Hey,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm feeling a little bit like I'm
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: not in this. I feel like you're not into me.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: We're not connecting. Am I reading this wrong or not?
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: And and Colton just pretty much to you, No, you're
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: not your your spot on it's probably time to go, Sydney.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Was were you disappointed? Oh? You know? Do you wish
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: you would have approached it a different way? Is there
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: a better I mean, Michelle, I want you to if
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: you can't help me out too, is there a better
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: way in relationships approach those kind of questions? Yeah, I
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: mean I'm not disappointed. I'm disappointed because I feel like
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: maybe he didn't completely good to know me as I
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: wanted him to, um come, like from the whole time
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: I was there, like I got to know a lot
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: of me, but like, um, I wanted to just feel
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: like I gave my whole self like into the situation
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: and I don't think that call at all. So that
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: was disappointing, But I'm not disappointed. And how it ended,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I feel like in a way I might have helped
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: him on his journey, Like, ultimately, I want him to
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: find what he's looking for, and I hope that it
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: not me than he. I can at least help them
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: to find what that is that was me going into
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: that thing. Like, this is who I am. These are
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: things that I need. I know that. I think I
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: know what the things that you need, and I think
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I am those. But if you don't see me as that,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: then maybe you need to try harder and find the
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: person that is supposed to be for you, if that
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, that role that you kind of took
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: on was really like cool to watch because it was
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: a little bit of like listen, you know, I'm not
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not fully connected, like I need more from you.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: And I loved how direct you were, And this is
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: something I think we can take into our lives to
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: kind of learn from. Is like, you know, a lot
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: of guys don't really know you kind of have to
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: spell things out to them. It seems like like you
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: kind of have to. Like it was like you kind
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: of sat them down. You're like, so this is what
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not getting what I need from you, and can
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: you give me more? And it was this very direct,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: like straightforward conversation that was so refreshing. Um, but I
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: think that you could tell, you know, after you got
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: some home. I loved that you kind of took on
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: this role of like listen, um, don't get distracted by
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: the shiny things out there. You kind of took on
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: this friendship role that I think he actually really needed
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: more so um than anything at that point. Is that's
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: what it felt like to me, as if you were,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: um that like he kind of needed you, like for
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: that little reminder. Yeah, I know, because it's such a
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: hard situation. And I totally understood that, and I could
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: see that he was trying, and I was like, well, ultimately,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: this is my goal, my my what I need, and
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: like I want to help you out in any way
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: that I can if I am ultimately leaving. So I
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: hope that I did that, and I feel like I
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: did that. Um, it seems like you did, so this
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: is my question. So okay, so in the moment, that
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: felt like the right thing to do. So there you
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: are on the show like that everything is so heightened,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: all your feelings behind everything is just like extra. Um
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: when you got home, did you regret that decision? Oh?
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh, I mean I didn't regret it.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I knew in that moment when I had that conversation
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: with him that he wasn't going to be my person.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: I knew that I wasn't going to be his person.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: So and I didn't want to waste anyone's time. Like
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I came here to be serious and I wanted to
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: figure out if this was right for me, and if
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: it wasn't, then I don't want to yeah, stay around
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: and just like have a free vacation, like that's not
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: what I was there for. So I didn't regret it.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I felt good about the decision I made. I mean,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: it was like obviously very sad and not like how
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: you want to leave, but I ultimately feel good about
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: my choice about leaving because when I got back, I
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: was like, well, hopefully, like whatever happened, he I played
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: a part in the end of this journey, it seems
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: like you did. Um, did you get along with all
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: the girls? Did you guys just have so much fun?
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: I had some really strong friendship that I felt. I
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: think that you can start seeing that and these like
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: episodes coming up. Um, I was like really good friends
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: with like Tatia and Kirpa and Nicole, We like really
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: got along. Well, Yeah, I love them very much because
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: you're always around them, so it's like easy to make
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: strong friendships. I'm curious to know you had mentioned to him.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Don't be distracted by shiny things. Can you elaborate a
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: little bit more on what those shiny things are or like?
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: And have those feelings changed or evolved for you about
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: these people? And I just would love to know more
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: about where that came from. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: he was going for like the girls and like that
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: kind of thing, which is a great like he like
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: has strong feelings for a lot of them. But I
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: feel like he could easily get distracted by like the
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: idea of people instead of like actually asking them the
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: harder questions. So why I just had a sense about um,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: so I wanted him just to like, yes, everyone they're
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: is beautiful and everyone has like great things, but I
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: want you to like ask them like are they ready
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: to be married? Essentially at the end of this, because
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: that's what he every time he gave us a speech
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: at a costail party or whatever, he'd be like, I'm
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: looking for my wife. I feel like my wife is
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: in this room. I'm like, Okay, if you're looking for
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: your wife, like make sure that that's what you're looking for.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: You just like going after like who's like shining being
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: like a shiny thing, I guess is the best play. Yeah,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: I think I think you said it in a way
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: that really impacted him. It seems to me like what
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: you said really was like I need to think about this,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: which I thought was Yeah. I just wanted him to
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: like think a little bit more about the things that
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: he was, yeah, pursuing. Essentially, it's like food for thoughts.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: It's you know, as we watch this season, there's been
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: this dynamic that a lot of people are talking about.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Is everybody you know when you left the show? Uh,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: there is this I want to say, support of Colton,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: which you don't see a lot in the Bachelor franchise,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: especially when it comes to The Bachelor. You see it
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: with the Bachelor at you know, people get off the
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: show and they say great things. But with the Bachelor,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: most of the contestants leave and they're like, yeah, I
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: don't like my Bachelor except the one that gets chosen.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: It feels like this season you all are in support
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: of Colton. Is that is that true? Will the clause
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: come out after the final rows, which they usually do,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: or do you think everybody kind of had this just
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: like affection for Colton to see what whatever's best for
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: him happen. I mean, I think I see what you mean.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I think actually that is true. Um, he's just like
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: all in all to his core, he's a very kind,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: nice man and like a very good person, And how
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: could you not root for someone like that? Also, he's
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: I found him just refreshing as a person, Like you
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: don't meet many guys nowadays that are visions that like
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: his agent, like twenty six, So it's just like a
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: different thing that we're experiencing in culture. So he was
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: just kind of like a breath of fresh air. So
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: I think ultimately we're all just like kind of rooting
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: for him. Oh yeah, we're rooting form also, were wishing
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: the best. Uh, Sydney, what you did is admirable. Uh,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: We've appreciated watching you. Um on this show, we hoped
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: see you again. We We end every segment talking to
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: some it's been eliminated or has left in their own
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: from this season with this question would you and will
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: you be doing Paradise? Um? Would I do Paradise? I?
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: I think it was offered to me. I would. Um. Ultimately,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: I feel like it would probably be the better situation
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: for me because I just need time to like settle
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: in and get no people. And it sounds like Paradise
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: is a lot of that and being on the beach
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: with cocktails. So oh yeah, probably. You know, you take
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: that opportunity. If it's offered to you, you take run.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: We hope to see you. Thank you so much. We
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: hope to watch you. Thanks, thank you so much. Take
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: care of home. I like her, Yeah, I do think,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, she's just she would be fun
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: to see on Paradise. Yeah, the show can can can
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: be difficult for people her who are normal. I would
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: say everybody on this season is beautiful. The women have
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: gone home have been beautiful. The woman they're still there
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: are beautiful. There's one thing that's always shocked me and
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Michelle you as I sit here and look at you, uh,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: you have the same thing. They all really nice hair.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: They all have great hair. It must take a lot
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: to have this kind of hair. And then here's another
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: thing I've learned is in my life I have lived
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: with a woman. And when I live with a woman,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: my bathroom piles up with bottles and bottles and bottles
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: of different shampoos and conditioners and shiners and whatever it is.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Now there's a solution for that. I don't have a
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: big house. I don't have a big bathroom. I can't
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: continue to just build up bottles in my shower and
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: its function of beauty. We all know the frustration bottles
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  Speaker 1: first order. Hey Michelle, moving on here for a second.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: There's a one on one day that kind of gets
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: I feel like covered up in this episode. Isn't the
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: most talked about thing because even the we've got more
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: emails on this podcast from who got eliminated at the
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Row ceremony than on this one on one day, and
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: one on one days typically just completely take over this podcast.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: It was a one on one day with Kerpa. I
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: would love for you to break this down, uh if
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: you don't mine well again, I think Herpa is one
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: of those women who in the right setting, under the
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: right circumstances, can open up and really give you a
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: lot of depth, um you know, And I found that
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: to be the case with her. She just had um yeah,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: like she just had a lot of really interesting things
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: to say on her date, once she finally felt comfortable,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: like and it just almost it's like it took a
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: while for her to finally like kind of open up.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: What did you feel? Yeah, you know, I think it's
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: that there was there was this. It was uncomfortable at times.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: I honestly, for a lot of the date, I didn't
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: think she was gonna get throws. I didn't either, but
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: then she wasn't there. But then she kind of like
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: opened up a little bit. And I think that it's
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: just being vulnerable. We have to be more vulnerable with
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: each other. I think that's what brings us together and
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: helps us connect. And when we're guarded and we have
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: these walls up, it's just so hard to connect and
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: break through. And I think that once she finally did that,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: I think I think you can tell Colton loves just
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: authenticity and connection and it's almost like he finally got
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: that from her and was like, Okay, cool, Now let's
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: let's see if maybe there's more, you know. And I
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: think that's why I gave her the rose. Yeah, it
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: was surprising to me that she got through a rose.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: There's also a surprising piece in this episode, and it's
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: how the episode ends. But before we do that, we've
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: got to catch up, uh with our co host Michelle
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Ashley I Kennedtie. Welcome to All the Same podcast. Hi, then,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry that I've skipped two out of the past
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: three weeks. I feel like a failure. Oh my gosh,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Hi ash it's Michelle. Hello, how are you. I'm so
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: sad I'm not sitting here with you. Oh I know
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: where are you? Can you even tell us? Is it
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: a secret? What's going on? It's a little bit of
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: a secret, but everybody will know what it's about and
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: about twelve hours and a little bit more than that.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: But Dared and I are in New York City and
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: we're gonna be a getting married. Oh my god, We're
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: gonna have Hoarding America wedding. They've probably done that before,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: could you imagine? Guys, alert, that's not what it is.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: But good will be like to Morning America around eight
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: o'clock tomorrow morning and we will make our announcements. Then,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this is so exciting. Do you know
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: what it is? Then? Do you know? You know both
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: of us? Do you guys know? Oh my gosh, I
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: hate that I don't know when you guys know, it's
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: very exciting. It's gonna be a big deal. Ashley and
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Jared are on top of the world right now. She's
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: a big deal, Ashley, He's the biggest deal, and we're
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: just gonna be here to support her along the way. Ashley,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I know that it's aching you that you haven't been
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: in studio with us here recently. I hate the podcast
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: because you missed me or what what's what's what's the reason?
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: I just feel, yes, then I missed you that first
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: and foremost, and secondly because I just feel like I
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: need to do my job. You know, yeah, who needs
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: to do a job. I'll be here. Yes, last week
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: you just weren't together. The last week we weren't together.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: I counted last week, but week before I was in Kangoon.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: That's okay, that's fine, No worry about its episode. Actually
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: I missed you, but I'm happy for next next week
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: you're going to be gone. Right then I'll be in
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Honduras with Generous taking a bunch of people, uh down
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: through the coffee farms of Central America. So yes, I
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: will be gone next week, and so you'll make up
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: for everything there. I do want to tell all all
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: of our listeners out there, the announcement that Jared and
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Naturally are making is a big deal. It's really cool.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: I'm really proud of the both of them. I look
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: up to both of them in a lot of ways.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: And so make sure you check out Good Morning America.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: But if you can't watch Good Morning America tomorrow, I
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: guarantee you it will be all over social. So tomorrow
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: at about I don't know, ten a m. Eastern, just
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: go to social channels see what's going on. This is
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: a really really cool deal. H Speaking of cool deals,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: we're here to talk about the Bachelor. Michelle has done
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: a great job today. Ashley. We've had a couple of
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: great guests who have broke down the episode with us
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: and to kind of summarize, because I know you're coming
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: in at the end here, what is your thoughts on
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: this episode in general, not breaking down each moment, but Ashley,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: we're seeing a trend women are leaving on their own,
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: which you know, Michelle and I are both saying, is
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: is a great move on the woman's part. If they're
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: not feeling it, they're they're taking control and they're taking
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: ownership in and they're saying this isn't for me, But
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: we also I saw a very heated one on one
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: with Hannah G that we explained as erotic. Um Ashley
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: that you take it from there because I know you'll
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: do a great job and explain the rest. I do
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: think the Hannah G date was super physical, and I like,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: I think their relationship is based pretty much on physical chemistry.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: But when I said this last week, Rachel said that
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: she and Brian's relationship appeared on screen to just be
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: physical as well, but they cut of all the all
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: the substance to it. So Rachel was like, that's the
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: way they portrayed our relationship, but that isn't really the
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: best part of our relationship. Even though that part is great,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: it's not what kept us together. So perhaps with Hannah Gy,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: because she is like so sexy, they're just kind of
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: focusing on that, even though there's a lot of other
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: things they could have been focusing on. But I don't
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: think like there's a whole bunch of like electricity when
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: they talk, Like when they had their sit down part
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: of the date, what do you think. I don't know,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: ash we were just discussing it. You're not wrong. Um.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: We we were glad and happy to get to hear
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: a little bit more of Hannah's story because the one
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: part that really frustrated me with this episode, and I
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: think it's gonna get overlooked. Honestly, I don't know if
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: the listeners are gonna um react as as much as
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: maybe we did is the Cassie Kalin, which I think
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: actually was mostly Kalin, but they were kind of saying
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Hannah g has just always lived off of her looks
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: because her depth isn't there. I don't love when people
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: say that. That's not a great thing to say about anybody.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: And I thought on this day we actually got to
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: see a little bit more of what you know, kind
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: of depth Handa G has, and I think it's quite
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: a bit. Do you think that really talking about her
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: parents divorce gives her depth? Well, this is what I think,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: and I took to your comment. I think under those circumstances,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: for her it did feel like maybe to like you
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: and I, that doesn't seem like a lot of depth,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: But I think for her she seemed to. It seemed
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: to be a really emotional like experience that she did
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: doesn't talk about a lot like you know, she just
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: it did seem like this real kind of traumatic experience
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: for her that she opened up and shared that seemed
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: authentic to me. I felt it, you know, whether it
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: was super you know, I think there's certain people who
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: can talk about the stuff all day, all night, but
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: I think for her, you could tell it was something
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: that was hard to talk about, and by doing so,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: I think that it helped them connect on a deeper level.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: And I think she does have um that sexual energy
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: about her. But I think that, like you were saying, actually,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of stuff gets cut out, and
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Colton doesn't strike me as the type of person who's
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: like just wants to sit and make out and not
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: have a conversation. I mean, we know Colton better than Hannah,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: and I don't think the Coltons just sitting there going like, yeah,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: let's head to the shower now, now let's go have
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: a mud bath now, you know, Like, I'm sure there
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: was really great conversation that happens to that we didn't
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: see that. He doesn't strike me as that type of guy. Um,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: so I do think it's yeah, right, So that was
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: probably the most sexual things we've ever seen from the show.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: I think so too, Man, I was turned on. I
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: think you're right. I think you're right. And now that
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: you bring it up way she did describe her dad
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: and mowing the lawn and all that very visually was
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: more of like the storytelling that I think he probably
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: doesn't usually do. Yeah, I guess what we were trying
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: I guess, And what I was trying to say is,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: I think it's easy to assume that, you know, under
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: those circumstances, you've got all these girls together, that you're
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: kind of feeling jealousy and competitive, it's hard to open
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: up sometimes, and so we just assume that there are
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: these like pretty little, you know, like shiny things, when
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: the truth is that there's probably a lot more depth
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: um that they have to them that Ay, we're not
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: seeing because maybe it's been edited out and and b
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: we're not giving enough credit to when they finally do
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: feel like they can be vulnerable enough to have the conversation.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: And there's a lot going on in this episode was
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: a lot. I mean, we got to the hand of
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Gee one on one. Obviously, we we sat through a
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: one on one Kurpa that I just I don't know,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: I just don't see the chemistry. I don't chemistry. List
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: their body language was so off. Yeah, I didn't think
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: she was going to make it around very much longer.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Um And actually I want to close with all of
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: us kind of talking about the Demi situation. So Colton
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: gets back to his room. We have Demi, who has
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: grown on me tremendously throughout the season. The first couple episodes,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: I was like, what are we getting into here? But
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: as the season has continued, Demmi is just this this
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: person I've been rooting for and like in the most
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: genuine of ways. And I'm really sad to see her
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: go home, even though I think her wanting to go
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: see Colton to take his virginity as a terrible, terrible idea.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think that was what. That sounded so edited
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: to me. That was that didn't not I don't think
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: that was her intention. But I might agree with you, Michelle,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I think that'finitingly to would have said earlier in the sea. Yeah,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: I don't think that was what. I don't know who
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: knows what Demi though. That's the thing about Demi is
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, bro, whatever, Yeah, I think they're not.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: She she walks into the Colton situation, and I'll be honest,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: I was really sad to see Demi go home. I
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: want to hear the two of you talk about this
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: because Demi has became one of my favorite characters. Uh.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: And actually you've been supportive and a fan of Demi
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: since the beginning. I haven't, but I know that you have.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know. No, then, I haven't been like super like.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: I haven't. I've been pretty neutral about her. Some people
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: love her before. I just got on my sporting today
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: this girl was like, oh my god, I love Demi
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, really like I liked her. I don't.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: I don't dislike hers, but I don't feel like this
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: past that so many people are showing on social media.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: I think people are liking that she keeps it real. Um.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: I think that this week was probably her time to go.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: I think she would have gone home this week whether
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: or not she said I love you. But I do
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: love the way that he sent her home privately instead of,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: you know, at the road ceremony. After she said that,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: it was like it kind of was heart wrenching to
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: watch because you could tell that she went there with
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: this like this grand idea of something that was going
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: to go a totally different way, and it was almost
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: it was kind of abrupt how he um kind of
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: just didn't really beat around the bush and it was
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: just like, oh, if you feel this way, then like
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: it's time to go. And he's I mean he was.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: He said it in a sweet way, but um, to
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: see her face, I mean, I think it was just
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: I do not think she was expecting that, And it
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: was sad to see her kind of like put herself
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: out there and kind of get kind of gets shot down.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: You know, I do like DEMI I do like her.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Then how do you feel about people saying that Colton
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: is really following in your footsteps and he's the best
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: battler since you and he handled himself was as much great?
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: Is it because you were his mentor? I would love
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: to take credit, you know, I mean, I'm getting old here.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: It's time for me to start taking credit for things
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't be taking credit for. But no, I cannot
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: take credit for Colton's you know, he's He's done things
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: a lot differently than I have did. Um. But I
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: think the one thing you see in common is I
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: think Colton really cared and hated asking women to leave.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: I think sometimes you get bachelor's and bachelorrettes who and
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, it doesn't affect them when they have
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: to say goodbye to somebody. I think we see it
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: in Colton's eyes, like it hurts him. He doesn't like it.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: It's not fun for him. It's it's tearing him up inside.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: And for me, it mean, it made me physically sick,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: like I lost weight because I was so stressed about this,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: and I honestly I think that helped me, uh take
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: it more serious? What did you say? I had a
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: paras but every time, um, so, you know, I'm happy
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: for Colton. I think that we're going to see how
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: this thing plays. I I do think he'll go down
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: as one of the most genuine Bachelor's in history. We
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: were just talking about the beginning of the podcast. Actually
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: is kind of how ironic it is that his season
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: started with a very popular hashtag not my Bachelor, and
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: it seems to have switched right. It's so interesting. Yeah, yeah, totally.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: I want to let aybody know to look for Jared
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Nashley on Good Morning America Tuesday, which is February twelve,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: two nineteen, for a very special announcement one that as
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: a friend, I'm very proud of them for um so
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: check them out, listen in, and we'll talk about it
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: on the podcast next week. Ashley, thanks for joining us.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Thank you, And Michelle, thanks for sitting in my seat
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: because there are a few people that I love feeling
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: my there, like you, because I feel like you're like
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: the original host. Look around the Bachelor. You're so cute.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: I'm just keeping your seat nice and warm. I miss you,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: I miss you. Love how do you bye? As we
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: saw him this week's episode there in Vietnam, and I
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: love this, Michelle. I love this about the episode that
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: while they're in Vietnam they bring in some of the
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: Bachelor crew from Vietnam. One thing before h we actually
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: talked to some of the crew from Vietnam. I want
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: to mention, is you know and this year's Winter Games.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: The whole concept of Winter Games was to bring people
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: from all of the world into one place, highlighting that
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: The Bachelor is not just a US thing, it's an
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: international event. Like the Bachelor has spread across the globe.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: It's taking over the world in a sense. And today
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: we have some very special guests from Bachelor Vietnam out
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  Speaker 1: there to talk to us on almost from this podcast. Heybody,
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  Speaker 1: how's it going? How this is so exciting to have
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  Speaker 1: you guys here. It's like all these worlds colliding. Really
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: really happy to be here. If you guys don't mind
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: real quickly to get us started, do you mind introducing
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  Speaker 1: yourselves and what your role is on the show. I'm
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  Speaker 1: one of the story producers. I actually got this gig
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  Speaker 1: by being such a fan of the American show. So
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  Speaker 1: I got this gig from knowing the format so well,
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  Speaker 1: so I was kind of like a default back for Bible.
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  Speaker 1: And actually I started watching the show with Ben season
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  Speaker 1: so I could thank you Ben for getting me this gig.
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  Speaker 1: That's amazing. That actually makes it really happy. So how
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  Speaker 1: many seasons have you guys filmed? This is our first season? Wow,
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  Speaker 1: this is so exciting. So you guys have your own
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  Speaker 1: Chris Harrison, right, yeah, that's our hows quite done? Does
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  Speaker 1: he say things like this is your final rose? Yeah,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: he definitely like that. Yeah he's got he's got those
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: things as well, right, yeah, and this I'm done executive
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  Speaker 1: producer and Chilrennie Yeah, all right? How you knowing everybody?
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  Speaker 1: You know? Ben I was a big like Onto. I
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: became a really really big fan of the show during
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: your season because I was running a company called Marley
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  Speaker 1: Coffee out of Denver, and all my employees were such
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: huge fans of yours, um that I guess pushed me
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  Speaker 1: to move back to Vietnam and wanted to produce our
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: version of The Bachelor as well Marley Coffee with one
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  Speaker 1: of the Marley brothers. I have the T shirt downstairs.
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  Speaker 1: You're one of the very first people to tell me
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  Speaker 1: to start like. Your company was right next to Generous
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: coffee booth at our very first ever. I remember my
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: employees had taken pictures with you. They came back to
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: the office as giddy as humanly possible. This is incredible, Ben,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of think so responsible for the responsible for
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  Speaker 1: The Bachelor of Vietnam as anybody else. I think we
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: should put your name in the credit somewhere. Ben, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I'm glad this. I'm glad this podcast started
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: out this way. Today. I was was coming and I
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: was excited Michelle as a guest co host, I was
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: excited to talk to you all, and honestly, my joy
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: level has just increased and I feel very very important
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: right now, and I appreciate That's a good feeling to
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  Speaker 1: feel feel appreciated. Um, you know, we've gotten to watch
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  Speaker 1: a little bit about Vietnam. Vietnam is an absolute beautiful place. Um.
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  Speaker 1: Can you run Michelle and I and the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the listeners through any differences maybe that the Bachelor Vietnam
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: has compared to Bachelor USA. Yeah, I'll take this question
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  Speaker 1: real quickly. The format is the same. You know, we
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: we all get the format from Mike Life, and you
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: know it starts off with in our situation, twenty four
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: eligible ladies and one bachelor, and the season, our season
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: goes through fourteen episodes, the first episode being that of
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: the Limousine team where everybody's introduced in the final episode
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: is the Final Rows, then the after the Rows and
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: the women tell on, and the after the Roads. So
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  Speaker 1: it struck retually very very similar. I would say the
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  Speaker 1: biggest difference probably is in the level of uh salaciousness,
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  Speaker 1: if you will, between the two countries. Um, Whereas you know,
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  Speaker 1: Vietnam is still quite a conservative country just because of
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: the culture out there. We didn't see kissing on air,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: even though it happened before then until the final episode
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  Speaker 1: when he uh more or less proposes to the winner. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: a whole different show. Yeah, I think the whole season.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe he kissed three girls, which is an average one
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: single cocktail party in the American bachant, And I think
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: other things that are different about the show and not
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: in the structure, but kind of like what happened in
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  Speaker 1: our first season is that this show was really not
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  Speaker 1: just about women trying to lie for a guy. It's
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: really the batteck showing that he's worthy of the women's
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  Speaker 1: attention and time uniquely on uniquely on our first episode,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: in the first blow ceremony, actually three women declined his rows.
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  Speaker 1: One woman he was able to convince to come back
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  Speaker 1: that he had a major connection with. But yeah, these
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: women are like very strong, They're like very serious about
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: their time and being here for love and whether it's
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  Speaker 1: the right fit for them. So it gave an unique flavor. Yeah,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: he had to really work very hard every single episode.
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  Speaker 1: And just to tell you, as the producer of the show,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: we were freaking out every single night that the women
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  Speaker 1: would leave him, not that he would be able to
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  Speaker 1: charm the women. But he was, and he was great.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: Our Bachelor was great. He charmed the heck out of
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: the women. A lot of them fell in love with him.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: But it definitely the power dynamics, like on two was indicating, UH,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: is definitely that the power exists within the women and
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: that he had to be you know, extra extra charming
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  Speaker 1: in each episode. Is that more of a like a
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  Speaker 1: production or is that a cultural thing that you know
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: the women feel like, Yeah, he has to impress me
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: also because for years I felt like the bachelor bachelor
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: was sought after and that nobody was really ever leaving
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: on their own accord. Yeah, definitely that I think you
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: hit it right in the head. It's a cultural thing
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  Speaker 1: in Vietnam where women actually hold a lot more power.
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  Speaker 1: Um in this country, they're they're seen as the backbone
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  Speaker 1: of society and that they have are on equal footing.
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  Speaker 1: And so for a show like this, when we first
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: try to get it off the you know, on the air,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: we got a lot of pushback from the UH from
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: both the sensors as well as the TV station about
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: is this a misogynistic type show because that's not really
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: the culture of Vietnam. But we explained to them is that,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: you know, it's ostensibly you know, a fight for love
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: and you know, if you convey it well enough, then
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: it's showed in a way where you know, all parties
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: are truly seeking out you know, love on a show
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: and uh And in the end for our show, it
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: balanced out in the way that he had to try
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: out just as hard as the girls did. And some
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: of our contestants even mentioned that too. On our Women
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: Tell All, they answered, what do you think of critiques
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: that are you devaluing yourself by trying to compete for
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: a man? And one of our contestants and said, very eloquently,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: is like, I think a value woman is. A woman's
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: value is in knowing what she wants and then being
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: able to go after this. If you know your to
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: value as women, no one can ever tell you your
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: value or devalue you. So that's why the women on
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: our show phone very empowered or felt right on their
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: own journey to be there. That's so beautiful. Is there
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: a way for us to watch your season? There are
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: clips on so on our YouTube channel and on our
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: Facebook page. Um, whole episodes are not available, but we
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: have best of moments. I'm going to check those out. Yeah.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: I think this is so interesting and it really is
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: is terrific to kind of connect everybody from all the world.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: That's what I loved about Winner Games, and I thought
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: the concept win a Games was terrific and that's why
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: I did it. Uh. You know, your team in Vietnam
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  Speaker 1: has now produced a Bachelor. It's aired. How did it
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: go over? How is the reaction? Is it as big
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: in Vietnam as it is in the US? Oh? Great question.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: I mean I think the season one, uh, it went
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: over really well because of the curiosity factor, especially with
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: people who were watching the clips online. UM, on TV.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: It was a highly rated show. UM, probably not like
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: number one show like it is in America, but uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we had some great, great moments that just
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  Speaker 1: made the whole country talk about the show. UM. And
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, one of the big moments, obviously,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: is that we had the moment where two women uh
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  Speaker 1: declared their love for each other during the rose ceremony,
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  Speaker 1: and that was hugely talked about, you know in Vietnam,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: but even more so on a global scale. And then
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: at the end there was a scandal with the winner
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  Speaker 1: not disclosing the fact that uh she was a single
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: mom um, which you know, really upset a lot of
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: the girls on the show, as well as a lot
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: of the fans. So, you know, despite the ups and down,
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  Speaker 1: I thought that the season went exceptionally well, and and
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: and and people really, you know, resonated with the fact that,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: you know, a lot of these things are just absolutely
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: real moments, uh, in these people's lives. So is there
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: going to be a Bachelor? You know? I think we're
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: going to do two more seasons of The Bachelor so
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: that the stands out here will really understand the format
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: of the show before we move on to the Bachelorette.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: How crazy is this? Michelle, The Bachelor's internationally known. I'm
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: telling you all the Vietnam had a Bachelor to watch
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: this year. Can you imagine these polarizing storylines? I mean
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: I read about the two women leaving that they found
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: love for each other on the show here in the US,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: it was a global headline and and all in your
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: first season of filming a show. This is a wild part.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: And for everybody out there listening, this is the weirdest
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: wild part about The Bachelor. Remain right. I participated in
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: Michelle participated in it. We have two producers that that
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: work this show on the line as well. Somehow everybody
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: always asked me, how scripted is it? How how format
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: it is? I'm like, it's a format, right, there is
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: a format. It's an environment. But every year, time, over time,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: something new happens. Some you get a new personality, you
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: get a new person in there, you get a new
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: Bachelor Bachelor, and you get storylines that you've never seen before.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: Bachelor Vietnam. You did not fall short of putting together
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: a great show. And you also, I want to tell
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: you this, you did a great job at hosting Colton
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: show or episode this year. Thank you so much for
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: coming on Almost Famous podcast. Thank you so much. Thanks
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: for man what was that? I mean? Thank you? Thank
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: you you. People want to find out more about show,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: feel feed to check us out, look up the Back
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: to Vietnam on a YouTube or Facebook or Instagram. Perfect.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: Thank you? It's uh, isn't it wild? Michelle? How is
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: it all? Because of for this? I would like to
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: take a beat and just recap that, like, how does
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: that feel for you? It's it's actually kind of one
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: of them, maybe weirdest things that's ever happened on this podcast,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: to be responsible for people finding love in Vietnam and
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: I never even have noted. I would have never known
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: it until this interview. Kind of crazy. I mean, it's
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: it's honestly, it's hilarious. But in all seriousness, it's once
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: again a reason why when people ask me, are you
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: glad you did the show or uh, you know, do
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: you regret doing this show? And it's like, no, because
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: my life is is awesome. I get to do a
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: lot of cool things now and yeah, you know, the
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: love parton didn't work out for me, but so many
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: other things did. And then I get to hear stories
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: like this, and I'm like, people in Vietnam, maybe no,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: a little bit of who I am, Like, that's kind
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: of cool, really cool. Then it's really cool. I think
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: that was cool. That's exciting. I'm gonna have to watch
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: that clip. I didn't I didn't know that that was
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: this viral clip. So so two girls fell in love
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: with each other on the show. Yeah, it was a
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: global headline. Can you imagine in the first season of
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: Bachelor Vietnam something like this happens and and obviously it became, uh,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: like I said, became global. People were talking about it
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: was on all the national news networks. Um. But once again,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: it's it's one of those stories that the Bachelor, you know,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: creates and finds love no matter what. I don't know,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: uh if the two women are together still or not.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: But how cool is it that, at least for a
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: short time they found love interest from the Bachelor. How crazy?
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: Another great interview. Thanks Bachelor Vietnam for coming on. We
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: can't forget that. Where was a row ceremony? This week
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: Katie was asked to go home. We see a lot
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: of Katie this have a little big bummer, um, but
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: she is no longer there. You know what we've gotten
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: to uh money is from here on out, every woman
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: on the show is somebody that we pretty much know
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: fairly intimately. Like we get there, they've been on a
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: one on one, we've got another past. Uh, they have
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: a relationship with Colton. So this is kind of the
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: part of the show that gets real. So from here
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: on that, let's call it the season of the show
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: that gets real. Real. Michelle, you are always real, You've
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: never not been real. You're You've been awesome today. But
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: before we send you out of here, because I want
• 1:21:38
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on. We appreciate you. Thanks for filling
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: in for Ashley. You're the best. And uh, let's just
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: keep keep going and if you ever want to stop
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: by again, I know our listeners would love to have you.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: This has been so fun. What a fun job you
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: guys have. This is this is the life man, that's
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: the life behind Then hey, uh Michelle, Uh important update.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: It just came across my computer. I know that we've
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: got to get you out of here. And I know
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: this podcast has been along with because it's a good one.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: But we have a big news break in Bachelor Nation.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: This week, and our our correspondent Mark is into with
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: us right now with a special shill outbreak. Well, people
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: are very concerned about the situation with Cassie and whether
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: or not she's on the Bachelor. She's on a different
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: show at the same time, and people are freaking out
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: about it. And I'm here to set the record straight, Ben,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: I want to hear it. Well, she's on a show
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: called Young Once. There's another dating show that follows a
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: diverse group of recent graduates from Christian College. We are
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: now navigating dating, marriage debts, and career decisions. Blah blah blah. Well,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: she did that and then she went back and did
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: some reshoots. But she and the guy that she's dating
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: on the show have come out and said, look, there's
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: nothing going on here. We wish each other the best,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: but we are not together anymore. So don't worry. That's
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: not her forever person. She's not cheating on him going
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: on the Bachelor. That was done a while ago. She
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: had a clean slate going onto the Bachelor. Mark, I
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: know you've talked to a couple of people on the
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: inside here. Do you think or does anybody think this
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: is going to affect Colton and Cassie's relationship on the show.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: They do not think that's going to affect them whatsoever,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: because this was a clean situation. Cassie has no interest
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: in this guy. This guy has no interest in Cassie,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: although I think there might be a little bitterness on
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: his part, it's not going to affect Colton. Colton understands
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: the situation moving forward. Mark thinks so much great work,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: my pleasure. It's so glad to clear that up. I
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: know it's been a big deal this week. Hey, everybody
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: out there listening, make sure you email us at Ben
• 1:24:21
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• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: everybody that came on the podcast today. It was a
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: packed one with that I've Been Been, I've Been Michelle
• 1:24:30
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