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Let's Not Lose Our Humanity · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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Speaker 1: The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews. You need to start
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Speaker 1: your day, and you're listening to the West Carrol Morning Show.
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Speaker 2: Monday morning, twelfth day of January. I'm Wes, thanks for
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Speaker 2: joining me, kicking off another week together. And here we are,
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Speaker 2: moving on through the month of January, moving on our
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Speaker 2: way through the year of twenty twenty six, and sadly,
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Speaker 2: the story that continues to dominate a lot of the news,
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Speaker 2: even though there are other things obviously going on in
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Speaker 2: the world, the thing that seems to be the most
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Speaker 2: dominant story, at least on social media and most of
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Speaker 2: the news channels, is the shooting in Minneapolis. And now
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Speaker 2: that we've had a few days to process, a few
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Speaker 2: days to digest what happened, what we know to have happened,
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Speaker 2: I do feel like there's probably still a few things,
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Speaker 2: a few pieces that we don't have a whole lot
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Speaker 2: of information about. I'd like to know, there's questions I
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Speaker 2: still have. I'd like to know specifically where these women
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Speaker 2: this I was going to say husband and wife, but
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Speaker 2: wife and wife, this couple. I know that there were
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Speaker 2: reports that they had been going to different locations throughout
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Speaker 2: the day to try to obstruct the federal law enforcement,
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Speaker 2: the ICE teams from doing their jobs. I'd like to
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Speaker 2: know a little more about that. I'd like to know specifically.
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Speaker 2: I know we've seen this information about them being part
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Speaker 2: of an ice blocking group, and that's something that they've done. Listen,
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Speaker 2: a few things that I want to stress on all
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Speaker 2: this because I do think it's important that we remember this,
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Speaker 2: and I want to go back to my initial conversations
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Speaker 2: about this last week on Thursday. The most important aspect
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Speaker 2: of all of this is that a human life has
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Speaker 2: been ended. And this was obviously a spouse, This was
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Speaker 2: a mother, this was a friend, It was a lot
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Speaker 2: of things. This person that happened, she was a lot
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Speaker 2: of things. So I think it's important that we remember that.
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Speaker 2: And it's always important when a human being loses their life,
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Speaker 2: especially in something that many at least are seeing as senselessly. Now,
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Speaker 2: I don't think that I don't think we should be
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Speaker 2: so quick to demonize these women, because there's been a
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Speaker 2: lot of bad information that's been published about them, about
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Speaker 2: their children, about it just I don't even repeat some
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Speaker 2: of it, but there's a lot of bad information. There's
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Speaker 2: no using cigarettes, to putting out cigarettes, on children like
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Speaker 2: that stuff was published not true. There's stuff published on
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Speaker 2: the other side also that's completely not true. And those
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Speaker 2: things are make the absurdity and the sadness of all
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Speaker 2: of it to me, It makes it much more of
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Speaker 2: a circus than it should be. What happened. And part
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Speaker 2: B to this actually just co Part A, is that
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Speaker 2: a law enforcement officer shot someone and they died. That's
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Speaker 2: not an easy thing. That's not an easy thing to
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Speaker 2: live with. I say this sometimes like I've had a
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Speaker 2: couple of moments in my life. There was one day
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Speaker 2: I was driving near one of the hospitals in my hometown,
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Speaker 2: and I'm driving along and there was this man. He
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Speaker 2: was in a hospital gown and a robe, and he
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Speaker 2: was just walking across the street in the middle of
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Speaker 2: the night, in the dark, in a very poorly lit area,
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Speaker 2: and I almost hit him. Not because I wasn't paying attention,
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Speaker 2: not because I wasn't focused on the road. I had
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Speaker 2: to just slam all my brakes because this man stepped
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Speaker 2: out in front of me off of a curb. And
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Speaker 2: all that I can assume is that this guy was
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Speaker 2: it seemed like he had just left the hospital, he
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Speaker 2: had just walked out the door, and I slammed on
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Speaker 2: the brake so that I wouldn't hit him. Scared me
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Speaker 2: a lot because I knew the fact that I'm going
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Speaker 2: to get too in a second. Now. I have had
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Speaker 2: situations where kids have been on bikes coming out of
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Speaker 2: nowhere in neighborhoods and you know, go dart in front
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Speaker 2: of me on their bike. There's a few kids that
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Speaker 2: in my neighborhood riding golf carts around. They don't seem
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Speaker 2: to mind any of the the laws. They're kids, They're
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Speaker 2: not really supposed to be driving these things around for
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Speaker 2: these reasons. But there was one particular day where I
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Speaker 2: was driving along and again this was in daylight, and
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Speaker 2: I'm paying attention. But it's a it's a house as
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Speaker 2: it seems to have two families that live there. I
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Speaker 2: don't really know the dynamic of it. There's a lot
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Speaker 2: of vehicles that are there. And one particular day, I'm
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Speaker 2: driving along and the kids in this house and the
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Speaker 2: kids that live across the street are friends. And I
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Speaker 2: guess a couple of the kids ran across the street
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Speaker 2: like boys, you know, elementary age kids, and I see
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Speaker 2: them run cross and that makes me, you know, and
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Speaker 2: I'm driving a reasonably slow neighborhood speed and I see
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Speaker 2: the kids run across, and of course that makes me
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Speaker 2: hyper aware of okay, there's kids running around here, and
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Speaker 2: I slow down even more. And then a toddler two
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Speaker 2: three years old came running out from behind one of
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Speaker 2: the cars, right in front of me. And thankfully, you know,
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Speaker 2: being a defensive driver, you know, and following the training
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Speaker 2: and all of those things, after many years of driving,
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Speaker 2: I was able to avoid what would have been horrible.
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Speaker 2: And I just pointing out the fact that any of
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Speaker 2: these incidents, the elderly man, the kids on the bikes,
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Speaker 2: the kids on the golf carts, especially this toddler, I mean,
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Speaker 2: any of those things I would carry with me for
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Speaker 2: the rest of my life. And people would say, well,
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Speaker 2: it wouldn't have been your fault, and it's like, it's
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Speaker 2: not about it being my fault. I mean sure, I
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Speaker 2: would have been confident in any one of those situations.
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Speaker 2: I wasn't going to go to jail. That's not what
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Speaker 2: I was worried about. I mean, sure, that's something that
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Speaker 2: you should be concerned about, I guess in today's climate,
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Speaker 2: but it wasn't that. I just know that I would
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Speaker 2: have spent the rest of my time on this planet
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Speaker 2: processing the fact that I had hit one of them.
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Speaker 2: And that's a lot. Police officers go at every level,
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Speaker 2: go out into the community not knowing if someone's going
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Speaker 2: to hurt them, and not knowing if they're going to
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Speaker 2: be put in a position where they're going to have
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Speaker 2: to hurt someone. They don't want to. Most of them don't.
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Speaker 2: Most of them have no interest in that whatsoever. They
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Speaker 2: don't want to carry that with them for the rest
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Speaker 2: of their life. Told you a story last week of
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Speaker 2: a friend of mine who got out of law enforcement
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Speaker 2: because he had to pull a gun on someone and
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Speaker 2: he almost had to shoot someone, and he said, this
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Speaker 2: is not for me. He was done, tapped out like
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Speaker 2: that was scarring for him. So this ice agent who
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Speaker 2: pulled the trigger has to live with that. And you
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Speaker 2: can say, if you're on the left and you think
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Speaker 2: he was a monster for shooting her, and good, then
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Speaker 2: we have issues with our own humanity that need to
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Speaker 2: be processed. But the reality here is just like in
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Speaker 2: those situations where I said, like this kid runs out
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Speaker 2: in front of me, I can say all day I
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Speaker 2: didn't do anything wrong, and I didn't. I'm very thankful
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Speaker 2: that I was able to stop and not have a
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Speaker 2: collie with this small child, because not being in the
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Speaker 2: wrong doesn't mean I was going to be able to
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Speaker 2: function this way. These are the two most important things
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Speaker 2: we have to remember. Someone died, and someone got put
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Speaker 2: in a position where they felt like they had to
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Speaker 2: shoot the other person with training. Now we've seen more
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Speaker 2: angles of this, we've seen multiple angles of all of it,
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Speaker 2: and we've seen more footage, and we've seen the two women,
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Speaker 2: the two spouses antagonizing, the police officers and ice officers, sorry,
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Speaker 2: the ice officers, the federal agents. They've been told, they've
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Speaker 2: been programmed to think that what they're doing is not
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Speaker 2: only okay, but it's justified, and that they should be
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Speaker 2: doing it. And I think the first thing that a
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Speaker 2: lot of these people need to be told is you're
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Speaker 2: not really part of revolution, you're not the resistance movement,
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Speaker 2: You're not what you think that you are. You're doing
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Speaker 2: something because you've been told by politicians and a complicit
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Speaker 2: media that this is what you're supposed to be outdoing.
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Speaker 2: So the question is, why why do they do that?
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Speaker 2: Why would they ask you to do that? They believe
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Speaker 2: and I listen. I've been We're coming up on This
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Speaker 2: is my nineteen year covering politics. I've interviewed I've been
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Speaker 2: on calls like press calls in the White House. I
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Speaker 2: have interviewed Cabinet members. I've interviewed senators, representatives, the advisors
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Speaker 2: close to the president, presidential candidates. I can people on
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Speaker 2: both sides, and I can tell you this, when the
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Speaker 2: microphones are off and you are having a conversation with someone,
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Speaker 2: they'll tell you they don't hate each other as much
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Speaker 2: as they seem to most of the time. And they
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Speaker 2: also both sides want to figure out what is going
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Speaker 2: to motivate you to show up on election day. That's
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Speaker 2: the biggest challenge in it. How do they get you
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Speaker 2: to be there this year? It's there the midterms? How
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Speaker 2: do they get you there right now? You know, you
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Speaker 2: can go through history and say, well, in the past,
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Speaker 2: dot dot dot, But right now, the right feels pretty
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Speaker 2: comfortable in the fact that there are a lot of
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Speaker 2: people that are looking at things through glasses that are
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Speaker 2: common sense colored. I told someone not long ago, the
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Speaker 2: reason that Trump is president right now for the second
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Speaker 2: time is because people are just tired of being told
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Speaker 2: what to think, what to do, what to say, how
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Speaker 2: to act. They got tired of it. They just got
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Speaker 2: tired of it. There's a lot of things that didn't
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Speaker 2: make sense that were going on, a lot of things
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Speaker 2: and things that, by the way, no one was out protesting.
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Speaker 2: There were people burning down buildings and schools and scaring
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Speaker 2: people in the streets because you know, biological men were
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Speaker 2: allowed to complete compete in women's sports and cause their
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Speaker 2: daughters not to meddle. Or you know, an open border
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Speaker 2: that just allowed millions of people to come in the country,
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Speaker 2: no real understanding or explanation for why from them other
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Speaker 2: than we all know and understand why. We get it.
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Speaker 1: It's all to.
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Speaker 2: Some advantage for them, whether it's population, you know, giving
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Speaker 2: them more districts, whatever it is, more power for them.
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Speaker 2: Nobody was riding for that. Nobody was riding because screaming that,
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Speaker 2: you know, we'd ended democracy. When Kamala Harris just got
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Speaker 2: to be the candidate without a primary. She was involved
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Speaker 2: in one primary and she lost horribly, but she got
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Speaker 2: to be the candidate because Barack Obama and like four
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Speaker 2: other people I guess, sat down and said this is
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Speaker 2: who the candidate's going to be American people didn't get
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Speaker 2: to vote on that. There's no protesting of that. There
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Speaker 2: was no riots. There was nobody in the streets screaming
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Speaker 2: and yelling. There was none of that. None. Instead, it
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Speaker 2: was this is our candidate and the other side is
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Speaker 2: against democracy, and we're not going to allow a vote
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Speaker 2: to decide. There were no riots in protesting when we
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Speaker 2: actually had a political opponent that was arrested charged in
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Speaker 2: multiple cases around the country to try to keep him
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Speaker 2: from being on the ballot. No protesting, no riots. What
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Speaker 2: happened was the people who wanted to protest and riot
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Speaker 2: those things just decided we're going to show up and vote.
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Speaker 2: See Republicans figured out that was better than trying to
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Speaker 2: scare them. Let them see what's going on now. It
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Speaker 2: was there some elements of fear by saying, you know,
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Speaker 2: this could be the last election. And it wasn't from
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Speaker 2: the context of they're not going to let you vote again.
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Speaker 2: It was from the context of this could be the
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Speaker 2: last election because too much power is going in that direction,
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Speaker 2: it's going to be hard to get it back. Whether
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Speaker 2: riots in protesting about people being forced to get vaccinations
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Speaker 2: or lose their jobs, I mean people in the military
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Speaker 2: that were punished or thrown all these things. Where was this,
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Speaker 2: Where was the riots and the outrage? Where was that
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Speaker 2: got to get a vaccine? We're going to stay at home,
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Speaker 2: We're not going to let you leave your house. For
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Speaker 2: the places that did that. But these people think that
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Speaker 2: they're part of some revolution, they're part of some great resistance,
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Speaker 2: and you're not. You've just been programmed to do that
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Speaker 2: and to be that, and you're out serving their cause.
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Speaker 2: You're a pawn in this chess game. You're a pawn.
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Speaker 2: This woman who died was a pawn. She was sent
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Speaker 2: in and do what pawns do. I don't think they
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Speaker 2: had this orchestrated. I don't think this was planned. I
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Speaker 2: don't think anybody saw this outcome. But I do think
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Speaker 2: that when the outcome came, there were a lot of
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Speaker 2: people who took advantage of it and said we're going
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Speaker 2: to jump in on this. When there's a school shooting,
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Speaker 2: there's before they've even figured out what happened, there's people
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Speaker 2: screaming for gun control and sense gun laws and all
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Speaker 2: these things. They take advantage of these tragedies, and they
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Speaker 2: take advantage of the fact that a life was lost
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Speaker 2: and they want to seize it. They want to jump
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Speaker 2: in on it. They had a narrative already set for
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Speaker 2: January sixth before it even happened, and they knew that
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Speaker 2: there would be people that would protest. They knew if
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Speaker 2: they could pull the George Floyd protests and turn those
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Speaker 2: into part of the twenty twenty election, they were going
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Speaker 2: to do that, and they did, just like they're going
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Speaker 2: to use this and anything else that comes, because see,
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Speaker 2: now we still have people. It's worse. There's people protesting
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Speaker 2: and riding now and still getting in front of ice
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Speaker 2: vehicles to try to stop them, trying to physically push
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Speaker 2: a vehicle, and they're being pushed along, and they don't
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Speaker 2: seem to understand that there is going to be a
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Speaker 2: consequence for it. They don't seem to understand that, yes,
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Speaker 2: they could be killed by the car, have to be shot.
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Speaker 2: They're stepping in front of vehicles and they're stopping people
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Speaker 2: that are just trying to drive to work, or to
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Speaker 2: the hospital or the doctor, or take their kids to school.
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Speaker 2: They're blocking people from just getting on with their day.
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Speaker 2: Citizens in some cases, and they're baffled that they don't
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Speaker 2: have some right to tell everybody that they're not allowed
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Speaker 2: to move, and that they're that they don't get to
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Speaker 2: decide what you do. It's fear. Fear and uh anger
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Speaker 2: is are motivators that politicians will use to make sure
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Speaker 2: that you show up on election day. This is part
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Speaker 2: of their motivating force. This is what they think is
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Speaker 2: the way to go. That people are racist, You should
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Speaker 2: be scared, you should be angry, and make sure you
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Speaker 2: show up and vote or dot dot dot, and that
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Speaker 2: the other side isn't even human, that the other side
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Speaker 2: doesn't deserve any of your respect, doesn't deser or any
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Speaker 2: of your sympathy or your empathy, none of that. And
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Speaker 2: it's scary that there have been some that are looking
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Speaker 2: at this woman who was killed and they just see
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Speaker 2: her as you know, Oh, she's just collateral damage. She's not.
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Speaker 2: She's a human being. She was mother, a wife, she
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Speaker 2: was a person, a friend, someone who died. It is
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Speaker 2: very sad that decisions were made that put her in
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Speaker 2: a position that caused this to happen, that caused her
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Speaker 2: to react in whatever way that made this police officer
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Speaker 2: think or this again, federal officer. I say police because
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Speaker 2: I do think it's important that we remember they're all
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Speaker 2: part of the executive branch. It's all part of it.
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Speaker 2: So we can't lose our humanity. We have to remember
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Speaker 2: that a life was lost, a life was damaged in
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Speaker 2: this officer, I mean lives were damaged. But these are
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Speaker 2: the two people that were directly involved in this, and
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Speaker 2: then a third in this wife who was there, who
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Speaker 2: encouraged the behavior, was part of the behavior, and then
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Speaker 2: things went sideways in the worst possible way. You're not
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Speaker 2: that's great, so good for you. Keep it up, hanging
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Speaker 2: at whatever motivational thing that you need to hear to
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Speaker 2: keep you going. I would like to offer that up
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Speaker 2: to you and whatever language or context that you needed
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Speaker 2: to keep you going, because you've made that decision for
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Speaker 2: a reason, and keep it up. You gotta get They
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Speaker 2: say three weeks makes it a habit? Isn't that the expression?
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Speaker 2: It's been a while since I've done that. Because See,
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Speaker 2: typically for me, if I come in and I don't
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Speaker 2: really do resolutions, but typically for me, if I commit
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Speaker 2: to something, I've made that decision to stick with it,
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Speaker 2: and then I do it. There was one year in particular.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't really a New Year's resolution, but there was
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Speaker 2: one year in particular where I basically started my drawers
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Speaker 2: for my clothes. I started to pack them a certain
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Speaker 2: way in there, and I did it one day just
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Speaker 2: to kind of test it out, and Jill said, yeah,
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Speaker 2: you'll never keep doing that, and maybe she was playing
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Speaker 2: reverse psychology. I don't know, but I'm still doing it
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Speaker 2: years later, and it's just because at some point I
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Speaker 2: just decided I'm going to do it. So that's how
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Speaker 2: it typically works for me. So I hope if there's
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Speaker 2: something that you have committed to. Maybe that's why I
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Speaker 2: don't do resolutions, is I don't want to disappoint myself
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Speaker 2: and not stick with it. Sure, that's got to be
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Speaker 2: at least something to do with it, right, all right,
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Speaker 2: So basically looking at digital detox when it comes to
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Speaker 2: people's phones and if this may have been part of
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Speaker 2: your resolutions for the year, maybe to be on your
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Speaker 2: phone just a little bit less. So there's a class,
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Speaker 2: I guess Loyola University, Maryland. There's the doctor Shrea Hessel
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Speaker 2: was the teacher and was teaching a psychology class that
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Speaker 2: was called Digital detos And basically the result, students who
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Speaker 2: used to pick up their phones hundreds of times a
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Speaker 2: day learned to live without them because they were doing
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Speaker 2: a completely analog class with pen and paper assignments, twenty
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Speaker 2: four to forty eight hour device fasts, and then outdoor
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Speaker 2: adventures like football and hiking. By the end of the semester,
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Speaker 2: student screen time shrunk dramatically. They had better focus, they
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Speaker 2: slept better, they rebuilt human connection. They even created digital manifestos,
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Speaker 2: pledging real conversations and slower tech use, many saying that
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Speaker 2: they rediscovered boredom and why that empty space actually feels amazing.
26:08
Speaker 2: Others realized how much they could get done when they
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Speaker 2: weren't endlessly scrolling on their phones. One students shared the
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Speaker 2: day I went without my phone was the most productive
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Speaker 2: day of my life. The professor saying, conversation is a
26:24
Speaker 2: dying form of communication. Conversation is what makes us the
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Speaker 2: most human. I can live with that. I can agree
26:33
Speaker 2: with that. Sorry, I was reading something on my phone. Now.
26:37
Speaker 2: I appreciate the idea there, and I certainly think that
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Speaker 2: it would be suit us all to spend less time
26:44
Speaker 2: staring at those little screens or big screens. Don't forget
26:48
Speaker 2: there's a lot of screens that we stare at over
26:50
Speaker 2: the course of a day. If you're one of the
26:53
Speaker 2: roughly thirty percent of Americans with at least one tattoo,
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Speaker 2: do you feel like you get sick more often? Believe
26:59
Speaker 2: it or not, you might. There are studies that say
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Speaker 2: that the ink used in tattoos may be harmful to
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Speaker 2: your immune system. The tiny particles in tattoo ink are
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Speaker 2: picked up by immune cells carried to the lymph nodes,
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Speaker 2: where they can build up over time. A recent study
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Speaker 2: found that that build up can actually trigger long lasting inflammation.
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Speaker 2: It's also discovered that tattoo ink near a vaccine injection
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Speaker 2: site can actually change how the immune system responds to
27:31
Speaker 2: that particular vaccine. For instance, the study showed that the
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Speaker 2: COVID nineteen vaccine response was slightly reduced. Okay, the response
27:42
Speaker 2: to an inactivated flu vaccine was actually stronger. So does
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Speaker 2: it necessarily mean removing it is gonna help? Though? Laser
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Speaker 2: removal can actually spread the pigment throughout the body and
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Speaker 2: make it worse and cause more health problems. So does
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Speaker 2: that mean you should think about getting rid of it
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Speaker 2: just because you have it and you hear a study
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Speaker 2: like this, and chances are you probably are going to
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Speaker 2: continue to enjoy your tattoos as you have, which is
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Speaker 2: why you should go ahead and do you got them,
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Speaker 2: Just enjoy them. That'll do it for this Monday edition
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