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ABJ Podcast Ep 30 Paige Watchey Photography · ABJ

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  Ladies and gentlemen, we are live with another episode of the
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  ABC, a podcast episode 30. I am.
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  I'm out of it, ladies. Gentlemen, I am tired.
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  I'm beat. I'm trying to get so much done
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  in one day. It's a lot going on over here,
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  on the, a BJ front. So let me just get the
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  housekeeping and stuff done. Let's get all this out of the
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  way real quick, so I can bring in my guest tonight.
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  So, in the links below are some shows that you can come check
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  out a BJ and some and support independent wrestling.
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  Unfortunately, this weekend and You already have a ticket
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  Anarchy rulz, February 18th, 150, Chestnut, Nutley, New
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  Jersey, iwa is sold out. Cannot get to that show.
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  Make sure you follow iwa on the links below for all their social
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  medias. So, next show you don't miss
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  out. I'm telling you right now if
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  you're a wrestling fan and sometimes you go to a show and
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  you're like man the show was good with the crowd sucked
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  because it happens, sometimes the fans aren't into shows and
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  it takes away from the experience, go to.
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  I wa because that is not the experience.
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  Variants. There.
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  These are the most crazy Nutjob fans you'll ever meet in your
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  life. They are from Nutley so that
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  might have something to do with it.
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  So yeah, definitely go grab some tickets so you're able to come
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  hang out. Next time, following weekend,
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  February 25th in the No Limits, boxing Academy and South Rio
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  Grande, New Jersey. You're right by the ocean.
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  If you want to go jump into like a polar plunge.
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  Do you live your life? I know people are all about
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  jumping in cold water. That's like a trend now.
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  So, You can come do that but you can come hang out with myself
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  and Peter too long on commentary for ssw zero gravity and then in
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  March we have Uncle Massey's birth.
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  The 40th birthday Bonanza and through Pennsylvania, 500
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  Sanderson Street that's going to be March 5th.
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  Links are below for to get tickets for that as well as
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  spring break 93 htw. They couldn't find a Vijay, so
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  they brought in a BJ. Anthony black will be hosting
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  the event. We have live music and for all
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  these events you can contact. Attacked their social medias for
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  I wa ssw, high, tension, and smash Master.
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  If you would like to sponsor all the commentaries will give you a
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  shout out, social media plugs a whole nine.
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  It's a great way to get some exposure.
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  Also, right now coming up on EX actually, it's going to be this
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  Sunday, Sunday, February, 19th, all of the camp LeapFrog back
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  library from. I WT V will be coming over to
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  Can't believe frog, now's your chance head over to high-tension
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  wrestling YouTube page at go, subscribe and go watch a whole
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  bunch of amazing back content as well as just if you look at the
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  below my YouTube channel. Just it says friends to follow
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  and wrestling companies that I support just gonna follow them
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  all. Show them all love, goes
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  support, do all that great stuff people in the chat.
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  Dave's already here from 2300 podcast.
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  My boy. Boy, Matt in the chat.
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  Thank you guys for hanging out but without further Ado,
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  especially all links. And the follow social media for
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  my guests and some injured wrestlers if you want to support
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  is below as well. High tension networks already in
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  the chat. Let's show them some love here.
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  Heck yeah, can't believe frog baby.
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  A BJ + page watchi. Well that's there it is.
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  I'll just bring your in the photo daddy herself page TM TM.
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  Yeah. In the game.
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  I agree. But listen.
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  Yes, yes, I'm here to blow the lid off a conspiracy.
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  I'm here to out page publicly. All right, so, I love that.
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  I love. That is a great start.
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  So, we're, we have all these aircrafts being shot down, we
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  have UFO and alien sightings all over the world.
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  And I'm here to tell you right now that page is not from this
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  planet, she is an alien and I have proof because no one should
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  be as talented as her and not be human as well as As I hired her
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  for almost a full 24-hour period and and she didn't consume any
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  liquid our food for 24 hours and that is not human.
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  She is not of this world and all these it UFOs.
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  And everything are coming to get page back and bring because
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  she's trying to phone home, and they're trying to take her home
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  because the world doesn't deserve page, and they're trying
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  to take her back to her home planet.
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  It's about time There's no one's and me and him are eating, like,
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  for the 14th time, or are you sure you're not hungry?
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  I was okay, legitimately, I had like ten dollars to my name that
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  day. I would have bought you Maddie
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  off of the paper that's on social anxiety.
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  Like bill came out. I was like, listen, I'll be
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  fine. I had coffee.
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  It's good. And I didn't want to say
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  anything because I didn't want to be that person.
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  That's so cool. Hey, I've been there you go,
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  baby. Yeah, I did go home in like
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  Fowler, yeah, yeah. I crammed a lot of us.
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  So you, you are a photographer, an artist.
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  I mean, there's there's there's a lot you hang your hat on.
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  You are you're generally just as super creative person but I
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  really want to dive in a son first that we were talking about
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  before the podcast started, I was told by an inside source
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  that you are currently obsessed with Bernie Madoff.
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  You've been watching documentaries, Scheme.
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  Yes, I watched it. I'm always.
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  Okay, so in college you always heard like Madoff thrown around
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  but like no one ever really kind of knew what he did.
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  They knew it was a Ponzi scheme but like no one knew why he did
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  it how he started it. Any of that shit.
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  So I watched this documentary I like no less than six times.
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  I like and it just blows my mind because he never actually gives
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  anybody an answer is to like why he did it.
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  He's just like I don't have to but like Hundred, no one knows
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  why and him, and his other rich, people are fucking greedy, are
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  and like, I'm sorry, the one guy that like himself in the pool,
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  he knew he absolutely knew that bunch of them knew like, the
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  big, I think they called it the big four, like he would call
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  them if he was in trouble. Like they absolutely knew but
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  like him and his brother didn't have to do it like they were
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  starting to do those like electronic trading and they were
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  like, big wigs for it everyone. Wall Street was like, you know
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  what, and they Bernie decided to do.
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  Here's, here's where I here's where my socialist.
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  Sorry America. I said the word, here's what my
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  socialist brain and my my just being poor my whole life and
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  seeing other people poor and people who are really really
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  creative and just don't make it because the re this our social
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  structures made of yeah like Bernie Madoff just because he
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  wanted to made billions he was already a billionaire.
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  I made more and just make ruin people and he ruined like other
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  rich people out of their money. So I am not really too
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  heartbroken over it and they were kind of like a
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  shady but he got me, you know what I mean?
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  Because people they would go to Banks, right?
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  And these People, they will see, stupidly rich people.
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  That had accounts that these Banks there were like, the furni
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  knows you're asking. We're going to lose our account
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  stop like they absolutely knew. There's no reason.
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  And the wait. What was that mathematicians
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  name? I feel really bad.
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  I can't think of his name. No, he he figured it out within
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  like five minutes. He's like it's a straight, 45
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  degree angle, it's a Ponzi scheme.
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  Are you joking. And you want to see another good
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  Ponzi scheme documentary that Kind of takes place around here.
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  The polka King. What on Netflix, who the fuck
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  play? The poker King?
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  That was I think, was Jack Black.
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  Am I right with that? I don't know.
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  He was a polka singer and he lived in Hazleton, Pennsylvania
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  stopped. And he essentially started a
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  Ponzi scheme, with his list of his like listeners.
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  He was like, yo, if you invest into my company, I can reinvest
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  your money and do this and he was from Hazleton Pennsylvania.
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  Yeah, it's on Netflix. It's a graduate crazy
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  documentary but it's another Ponzi scheme documentary that he
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  was doing. Do you think people buy now
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  would be like, alright, well, do they felt they fell for it?
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  He did all he, all he did was show like like little tchotchkes
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  like polish trotsky's and shit like he like at August or and he
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  was, yeah, he was ocean connecting people through
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  wrestling says, my best friend lives in Hazel and I live 20 30
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  minutes from Hazleton. Speaking of polka, my trainer.
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  Was grabbing automated poke a drummer random.
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  Uh, yeah. Pennsylvania is where we go.
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  Another cool thing. I want to just give a quick
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  plug. It's funny.
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  I was kind of telling you a little bit, so a person who
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  supports the podcast and we've been, I've been friends with him
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  for a while Nikolai. He does a lot of extra work.
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  He's an aspiring actor. He wants to do cool things.
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  Nikolai was in the Bernie Madoff movie.
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  Hmm. There's little Nikolai right
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  there. Look at him.
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  People's money with those big-ass glasses.
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  Look at him. That's, you know.
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  It's funny Nikolai said, he wasn't allowed to shave, so
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  that's like bearded Nikolai. It's really not.
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  I'm just fucking one of what if he was so nervous.
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  Because like, we went out to go hang out and do stuff and he was
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  like, I can't get sunburned. I can't do this.
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  Like you like applying all because he's like, as if it's
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  Netflix documentary. So they can't.
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  You only had a small are so like that's just like a little
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  inside. Of like acting.
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  Like if you go, you can't cut your hair, you can't do this,
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  can't do that. You can't go get a tan, you
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  can't get sunburned like they need you for if they do reshoots
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  and stuff, it's a whole deal. But yeah, so you watch that like
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  three times and seen Nick aligned and even realize it.
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  I didn't realize it. No, and I knew immediately
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  Talking about because I always for whatever reason not that it
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  was funny but just that close up getting closer on their face
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  with the big old glasses and like, that's amazing.
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  Yeah, immediately, what you're talking about Nikolai was also
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  on a Court TV show one time, where he sued a his friend
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  because he was a magician. It was like on one of those
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  judge shows. Yeah, fun fact.
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  They're all fake. Yeah, I kind of okay.
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  I'm disappointed but I'm not surprised.
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  Yeah, they're all They're all actors.
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  They're all fake. Those none of those Court shows
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  are real. Sorry.
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  To ruin it freezes. No, no.
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  You know, people try to ruin rustling all the time.
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  Everything you watch on TV is fake.
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  So stop shitting on wrestling. I should know.
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  This whole podcast is scripted. None of this is real.
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  Not none of it. Yeah, no magic.
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  No magic is 100% real. Just televisions me.
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  Yeah, it's just Yeah, magic tarot cards.
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  Ghost God, all real. Elbow drops her desk.
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  So rustling. How did you get into this crazy?
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  Crazy life of professional wrestling.
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  Is it, is it something you've always been a fan of or was just
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  like, I like doing photography and they'll take me in?
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  How did, how did you get involved in all this nonsense?
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  It's like a little bit of both, to be honest.
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  So I always liked wrestling, my aunt's.
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  Always liked it, right? They were obsessed with like
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  Shawn Michaels. I love China, personally, I like
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  trying to. I was more of a Chauncey.
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  I like China India X, but I was more of a fan of China.
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  When she was with Eddie Guerrero, I liked Mamacita China
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  Sea. I only knew her from DX like
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  that's when I was introduced to her, you know what I mean?
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  So, like I always liked it. I remember when the shield
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  started and when it was, what was that?
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  When Randy Orton first started and he was like a tiny little
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  baby. He was with Evolution.
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  Yeah. So I had always, I was like,
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  it's really cool to watch but like, you don't talk about it at
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  school because people make fun of you for it.
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  But, you know, it's cool if you play Dungeons and Dragons in
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  school but like, whatever, you're a girl who watch
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  wrestling. It's probably some tough
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  sledding. Yeah, so in photography, I
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  always liked film photography video, my mom always talks about
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  like I used to try and take video cameras from her if she
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  was filming. He's like let me do that.
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  So what it was really by accident, Drew doneski, he's
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  like one of my best friend's. I love him.
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  He's an amazing ring announcer and he's just a great dude.
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  He was my internship supervisor at a college.
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  So. And to college have to go
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  internal that other crap. He worked to go work for a free
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  to Yourself Kim. Yeah, so he was my internship.
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  Supervisor. One of them, it quick Rock and
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  like we just got on the conversation of wrestling one
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  day. He's like, you should come with
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  me to like, CND wrestling and I was like, what?
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  He's like, it's like, you know, it's not like the televised,
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  it's in D, like local. So, and that's how it started.
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  And then they needed much much low more budget, but a lot more
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  fun, more fun, and they just needed a photographer for a
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  show. I guess they're guy.
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  Quit. It and I just never stop doing
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  it. I just they're like, hey can you
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  come back for the next one? And that's all it's been since
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  it's just like, hey, can you come back for the next one?
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  I love when people because I've only really been in the Indie
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  scene, two. Maybe three years.
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  If that, and I might be maybe. Yeah, if people are like, oh my
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  God, how did you get in this business?
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  I'm like, it's not hard just show up.
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  Yeah. A be there.
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  You just gotta be there. I think it was.
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  They were like, oh my God, she's like kind of funny and she's
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  super nice and it's like decent photos.
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  Bring her back, you know. Yeah, so we just kept coming
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  back. It is weird though.
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  Like I had a girl when I worked retail.
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  She overheard me talking about editing, these effing wrestling
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  photos, because there are so many.
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  She's like, how do you get into wrestling?
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  I'm like, you got a camera? Yeah, sure.
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  Show ya show up and ask like, editing wrestling photos, we're
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  going to talk about it. So I was at the sanctuary one
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  night and you and Eric pin hat. We're having photography, talk.
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  Yeah. And a few other photographers
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  were there and you got and you were like schooling, the new
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  photographers on wrestling stuff.
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  And I remember Eric saying, like I think someone asked Eric like
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  what is your least favorite part about Ed?
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  Because I think Eric, you are both.
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  Had your Co cameras and your laptops and your like working on
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  photos before the show started. Eric goes, I'm sick of this.
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  I'm not doing it no more. I'm making a firm stand right
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  now. I'm telling every wrestler I am
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  done editing out, weans in photos.
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  And I literally said, what are you talking about?
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  Because I personally never looked and now, every single
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  photo of a wrestling match, guess where my eyes go.
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  Because of you soon. I like it's okay, it's something
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  you don't notice until you're like going through your photos
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  last time, like you would like to noticing the arrow in the
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  FedEx logo. Once someone tells you there's
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  an arrow in the FedEx logo. Every time you look at the
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  FedEx. Sluggo your eye goes to the
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  arrow first. Yep.
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  So now because I was exposed to it, all of you are going to be
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  supposed to it. There's there's tons of wiener
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  in wrestling photos tons. Yes, I just dropped my Shadows.
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  I just drop the like the black. So it says In Lightroom, at the
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  very bottom, you can like, adjust your whites.
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  You can adjust your blacks or contrast or Shadows.
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  I just drop it off. Like I'm not going in there with
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  a healing brush. It feels really weird to do, not
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  drop from the Shadows Aunt Irene, but if you don't want to,
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  if you don't want your mouse and clickers to be working on some
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  stickers, I try to rhyme on it. I was dumb.
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  There's how you do it page page just gave you all a photography
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  lesson on how to How to eliminate the Wayne?
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  I made the joke last podcast on Alex as I said.
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  I think if I get new promo photos, I need the opposite
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  effect. I need someone to add wean to
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  it. You know what I mean?
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  And I want it like super unrealistic.
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  Like I want to look like an 80s hair.
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  Metal guy, that likes stuffed panda.
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  Yeah, I wanted I think people wanted so it looks so clearly
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  fake that it's hilarious. You listen to every wrestling
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  promotion and be like, here's my promo photo of every like we're
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  not fucking news and then every photos from my chest up.
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  We're like we cannot take this seriously, we're never again.
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  Who is this guy would save so much more miles on my car.
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  Imagine if that's the reason I got on booked is I had a huge
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  fake, queen added to my promo photo.
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  The only bad thing we have to say who sent us are
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  questionable. Yeah, because yeah.
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  Commentary canceled for inappropriate but hilarious
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  promo. Photo.
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  Oh man, that'd be amazing. I wouldn't even I would even
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  hate that cancellation. That'd be amazing.
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  I'd be I'd be a badge of honor. What's up?
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  Is this a steel panther understudy?
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  Like yes, well my buddies bands on tour right now it's Steel
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  Panther again, it's our second time touring with them, you
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  know, all the cool people. I swear, I try I really, really,
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  really talented friends. I somehow just managed to find
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  myself to be friends or be around.
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  Talented people and I'm just very fortunate.
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  Because I don't possess our own any Talent myself.
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  So I just try to rub off other towns of people because iron
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  sharpens iron So eventually I'll get good at something.
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  I just don't know what I think you're talented.
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  So one of the questions in the chat connecting people through
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  wrestling. How many shows have you worked?
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  Good luck, what a lot, like my first year, the company I was
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  working for, they ran two shows a month.
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  So I'm not going to math, it's like 24, right?
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  And then like times 10 or whatever so it's probably gotten
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  close to I want to say it's been close to about like a hundred
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  and a hundred shows, maybe more than that.
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  It's got to be more than that but it's definitely tip the
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  scale over 100. I honestly don't keep track.
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  I cannot keep track of a calendar either.
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  I'm in the same boat. That's a thing.
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  Like, I've only really been doing this, a short short time,
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  but I'd like. But people, when they ask, like,
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  how many commentary things have you done, or how many wrestling
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  shows on my I have no idea. I just get in the car and go
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  like, honestly, that's all it is like, it's truly a blur.
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  Like, you get in and you go and then you realize it's two years
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  later and you've done how many shows.
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  All right. Yeah.
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  Yeah. And you're like, wow, and then
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  you have some veterans who are like, oh, this is my Hundred
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  show your like hundred. I did that shit like my second
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  month. Like, oh my gosh, I think with a
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  problem, but I think a lot of people like, they'll come in and
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  they'll be like, all right, so you're gonna work for this
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  promotion and then people go, like, like there's nothing wrong
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  with loyalty but also like, if you want to get good at your
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  craft, if you just work for one place, you're not going to get
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  the Reps, right. Better big issue is to is like
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  And that home promotion or the one you start with.
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  I mean, I think anybody can attest to this maybe like a lot
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  of them, they almost get really possessive.
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  And especially if they see that, like, you're starting to do.
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  Well, they can get kind of possessive.
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  I can honestly say that, like, the place I started with they
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  were all like heck, yeah. Girl, get it.
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  Go do your thing. Go work.
• 21:49
  Those shows. Heck, yeah, you deserve it.
• 21:50
  But I have heard that there have been people their home
• 21:53
  promotions or very like, Possessive.
• 21:56
  They don't want to come up with anything and anything and I
• 21:59
  don't want to say just the wrestling business but it's just
• 22:02
  in general. Like and then when you work
• 22:04
  somewhere and then go somewhere else, they're like, oh, they
• 22:07
  only, we gave them their shot, it's like store, but you also
• 22:11
  weren't in the car and drove with them to the next 18 shows.
• 22:15
  You weren't the one sitting at their house while they were
• 22:17
  struggling, how to learn how to edit or do this, or do that.
• 22:20
  Like, sure you gave them a launching point, but you can't
• 22:22
  take credit for their whole career right now.
• 22:25
  Your Exactly. Yeah, but that's I think that's
• 22:28
  the biggest key is it's not just being like, hey being loyal but
• 22:32
  just getting out there and getting the work in, you know.
• 22:35
  Yeah. You can't be afraid to travel
• 22:37
  like, car mileage. Forget about it.
• 22:39
  Don't really the epitome of Charlie from Always Sunny.
• 22:44
  Like I never left a 30-mile. Radius of my house for the
• 22:48
  first, probably 30 years of my life.
• 22:50
  And then I just started doing this wrestling thing and I'm
• 22:53
  like went to Jersey twice like Is a one month and I was like,
• 22:56
  this is insane for me. Like that's not something I've
• 22:59
  ever done and now it's like, oh, I know you're, I've been to
• 23:02
  Jersey more times in my life in the past six months than my
• 23:06
  entire life. You don't mean like, it's just
• 23:08
  right? Crazy to think about it.
• 23:10
  It's odd like, my friends are all like you literally don't do
• 23:15
  anything like you, don't leave your house.
• 23:18
  You go to the gym, go home. Like in that now, you're just
• 23:23
  trapped, like hours away for Sling and they don't get
• 23:26
  wrestling either. They like it.
• 23:28
  Like my best friend Kate is obsessed but they don't.
• 23:32
  They don't get it. Like, they see it as like the
• 23:34
  televised thing, they don't see that it's like 18 but even the
• 23:38
  televised like it's that's much more.
• 23:42
  It's such a, it's so crazy. Well, here's a question, like a
• 23:45
  photography thing. So I kind of dabbled a little
• 23:48
  bit in photographer here and there and I am as we're talking
• 23:51
  I'm kind of like creeping on your page.
• 23:53
  So I'm trying to find this one photo.
• 23:55
  Because I want to post it up and I keep finding more photos that
• 23:58
  eventually. I'm gonna start dropping in the
• 23:59
  chat so if you're listening to this audio there's going to be
• 24:02
  some cues in here that you're going to hate because if you're
• 24:04
  listening in your car you like I can't see.
• 24:06
  Well go check it out on YouTube. I need to subscribe anyway and
• 24:10
  if you're watching this you can listen to a BJ podcast in your
• 24:13
  car and be just as pissed as these people are.
• 24:15
  So yeah you I think the coolest part is when wrestling
• 24:18
  promotions have a little bit more of a professional Santa
• 24:22
  because sometimes it is what it is and there's nothing, there's
• 24:24
  no knock but like Right. Place is just kind of show up in
• 24:26
  a gym. They put up a ring.
• 24:28
  Are they show up here and put up a ring?
• 24:29
  And then it's your job as the photographer.
• 24:31
  And I think this is where you stand out in a Pete stands.
• 24:34
  And I'm sorry, not Pete. I'm looking at the chat and CP
• 24:37
  and a pin hat. Stand out is, it's one thing to
• 24:40
  take a photo of the wrestler and the photo of the action.
• 24:43
  But I think what sets you apart is you find that backdrop?
• 24:48
  You find, that moment you find a angle.
• 24:50
  You almost like a cinematic look and use your environment.
• 24:55
  To pull out your photo even more.
• 24:59
  And I think that's what sends makes you stand out.
• 25:01
  And then if you put you in a scenario, like, for example,
• 25:05
  like, your photos are fantastic, and it pin has photos are
• 25:08
  fantastic at, like, any wrestling venue.
• 25:11
  You put you at, but then you drop you in a little more setup
• 25:14
  place that has the lights and the, and in the way, everything
• 25:17
  set up. And now I want to say lights,
• 25:19
  like, for example, A xw outbreak, they have the lights
• 25:22
  above the ring, and the rest of my love.
• 25:25
  I think it's like the coolest. It's the most I there's
• 25:29
  something about that lady. I like that top down because it
• 25:31
  makes really nice hard Shadows. Like, for example, there's a
• 25:34
  photo of Schultz that I grabbed, or he's up on the corner and
• 25:37
  he's doing his thing, but you get this really nice hard like
• 25:41
  top-down lighting and it just defines every single muscle they
• 25:46
  have. And it just has this very I
• 25:50
  don't want to say ethereal, but genuinely it does because then
• 25:53
  they're all backlit, they've got a nice room light and it's just
• 25:55
  I love that type of lighting. I and the thing is that lighting
• 25:59
  of you don't know how to handle that lighting it, sinks it's
• 26:03
  hard to shoot at like that like some place, some photographers,
• 26:07
  you can tell when they struggle in low light and they only have
• 26:11
  very little top light because in their photos are super grainy or
• 26:14
  there's a lot of noise or stuff like that.
• 26:16
  You have Matt like and then oh my God photographers with flash
• 26:19
  ringside as my favorite to, I've seen that a couple times but
• 26:23
  like you can literally put 100, photographers ringside and go
• 26:27
  back and look at everything. Everyone's photos and it's not
• 26:29
  necessarily who has the most expensive camera because you
• 26:33
  could have the most expensive camera in the bunch but still
• 26:35
  don't know how to use it. You know what I mean?
• 26:37
  Like, I talked to a professional photographer and he said your
• 26:40
  money is not in your body. The money is in the lens.
• 26:43
  Hmm. Yeah, I'd people like why need
• 26:45
  to upgrade? I need to get the better camera.
• 26:46
  I need to upgrade and get the 90 Dr. The mark 28 or whatever.
• 26:51
  Is up there, you know, means like like I literally watched
• 26:54
  professional photographer take photos with a rebel like a rebel
• 26:57
  too. To or something and his photos
• 26:59
  look better than a Mark D. It's really down to
• 27:02
  understanding. Like you have to understand how
• 27:05
  your camera works. But you also have to understand
• 27:07
  like your exposure triangle, a lighting Works, how it
• 27:11
  interacts, things like that, you have like, so there's basic
• 27:13
  fundamentals. Yes.
• 27:15
  But once you understand that and once you're at, I don't know.
• 27:19
  Like once you understand that like it is 0-2 like, 250, you're
• 27:25
  doing great. You know what I mean?
• 27:27
  Because like, I've People reach out to me, like, almost like,
• 27:29
  what setup do you use? Like, I want to take photos like
• 27:32
  you and it doesn't honestly, like I'll tell you what my setup
• 27:36
  is. I don't get keep that I don't
• 27:37
  really care. Yeah.
• 27:38
  But like also just so, you know, 90% of it is understanding.
• 27:47
  How to take that photo your exposure triangle, you're
• 27:49
  lighting it out of that, like that's 90% of it.
• 27:53
  The other 10% is your, you're thinking about framing a
• 27:56
  composition. Yes.
• 27:57
  So like you're looking for moments, like, you really should
• 28:00
  be looking at capturing moments in time.
• 28:02
  Like, that's my big thing. I like to.
• 28:05
  I think it was it was rationally.
• 28:08
  The joke that page always loves to see like people in pain and
• 28:14
  it's not that they're just so Emotional and it's such a
• 28:19
  visceral point. I don't like you can see the
• 28:23
  person behind the character coming through.
• 28:27
  Like this is a person that went and trained and thought about
• 28:31
  their character and learn how to do the craft.
• 28:34
  And now they're out there and they're like busting their ass
• 28:36
  and their, in the ring. And like, I'm going to be
• 28:37
  honest, they're in there for like 10, 15, 20, 30 minutes and
• 28:42
  that photo can last a lifetime jumping, right?
• 28:45
  So like you start to slowly as the Goes on, you start to see
• 28:48
  like the actual person, like leaking through that, or they're
• 28:52
  like throwing their all into it. And that's what I like to try
• 28:55
  and grab because, that's, who's looking at it like 20, 30 years
• 28:58
  down the road, they're not like, oh, this was this.
• 29:01
  Like, no, this is me. This was the name I wrestled
• 29:04
  under and this is that's what I look for other.
• 29:07
  So what are some of your favorite places you've taken
• 29:09
  photos at IWC for sure, that's where a lot of your photos right
• 29:16
  now. I think I'm looking at that
• 29:17
  venue. Looks beautiful the way they
• 29:19
  have a flint is so good. It's gorgeous.
• 29:23
  It's and it's just a simple little squared setup up there.
• 29:27
  It's really nice. I love shooting their even like
• 29:30
  shooting. I think my first show
• 29:34
  photographer that was there. Just on the photo that literally
• 29:37
  embodies what we were talking about, how if you don't know
• 29:39
  what you're doing. I'll come on load in.
• 29:42
  You see like here's here's an example of where a place can be
• 29:47
  so dark and if you don't know what you're doing, this photo is
• 29:51
  the hardest thing to take, but the way you took it and of
• 29:53
  course, now it's not working. All right, I think I got it now.
• 30:02
  This right here. Like this, is it.
• 30:04
  So I'm gonna so this is essentially the same venue in
• 30:07
  Arena. I'm going to put up right here.
• 30:08
  So this is the same place just to make sure we're on the same
• 30:10
  page. Now, nothing's there again,
• 30:14
  Jesus, I hate this place. Yeah, that same venue.
• 30:19
  Look, don't the weight use a light on top?
• 30:20
  Your talk about the hard Shadows, all that's there.
• 30:23
  Here's the same venue, but not using the ring light and you're
• 30:26
  using that one blue light in the corner.
• 30:28
  And you got the coolest photo of all time.
• 30:31
  But if a lot of photographers, take that shot and they're like,
• 30:34
  oh, I have to throw that away, because it's too dark, and I
• 30:36
  can't see anything, but you use that one, light source, caught a
• 30:40
  moment and got a really good photo.
• 30:43
  Thanks and I'm not even professional or even know what
• 30:47
  I'm talking about photography. But this is when I pulled up, I
• 30:49
  thought was really cool just because I watch them as a kid,
• 30:54
  okay? So talk I've ever seen in my
• 30:56
  life that show, I'll he's so nice.
• 30:59
  Sighs. I, I got to that show and
• 31:02
  normally I like walk to the back and I set myself down, but a
• 31:06
  really good friend of mine. Her name is Nat.
• 31:07
  I love her wonder which Boutique she's killing it.
• 31:10
  I love her. We were just standing out there
• 31:12
  talking so like I didn't know he was gonna be there and then I
• 31:16
  saw him come up on the reset button.
• 31:19
  And I was like, Oh my God. So I was like, sighs.
• 31:24
  I was upset normally I try not to be like a Shutterbug but I
• 31:28
  definitely was when he. Yeah, I was like I like it where
• 31:33
  you take rapid fire photos and your you just hold the shutter
• 31:37
  barrel and and you're like one of these is going to be good
• 31:40
  when I go back and look at it, right.
• 31:42
  Okay. I've done before because
• 31:44
  sometimes people like they'll come up with things on the Fly
• 31:47
  and you can see like a lot of its anticipation.
• 31:50
  Into you start to like figure out pacing not on their level
• 31:55
  obviously like you start to figure it out and you kind of
• 31:57
  put two and two together when they're like, getting ready to
• 32:00
  set up. So sometimes if I can see
• 32:02
  they're getting ready to do something big, I like press the
• 32:04
  shutter down, but not always know and hope I'd hope you get
• 32:09
  the moment. Yeah, I mean it's sometimes it
• 32:14
  doesn't work but it was great. That was amazing.
• 32:17
  I was like, I got to get this for my dad.
• 32:20
  But hey, if I don't my dad's gonna be mad, are you kidding?
• 32:26
  You meant to talk that. So that's why I always get when
• 32:29
  people like, oh, you work in the wrestling thing and they go look
• 32:31
  at my photos and like, the people I met, I'm like, yeah, if
• 32:34
  if you, if I wouldn't wish, I would have taken more photos
• 32:36
  because the people I didn't meet the ones.
• 32:38
  I didn't get photos of because I was too afraid to ask for one.
• 32:47
  My God. Cool, like they're great but I
• 32:49
  never ask for photos. I social anxiety.
• 32:52
  Dictates absolutely not not so here's some other photos.
• 32:56
  I pulled up that. I just breathtaking the drive-in
• 33:00
  show. Oh, I love the clouds in the
• 33:03
  come, the clouds was so good. Even Furious is gear here just
• 33:07
  popping off of the blue and that mat in the greens.
• 33:10
  I can't, I, I can't stand it, it's great another great times
• 33:15
  and great. Photo, great, great photo.
• 33:18
  This is not doing it any justice, just like kind of
• 33:20
  looking at it because if you zoom in man, you can literally
• 33:23
  see like the details in the thing in his mouth.
• 33:25
  It's amazing to my favorite people in the wrestling
• 33:27
  business, the neon blonds, I love them.
• 33:30
  So once again using the light in the background, getting that
• 33:34
  that glare looks amazing. All the Shadows, it is ABS.
• 33:37
  Look rip it apart. Here's one of the most wholesome
• 33:39
  photos ever, but he's a job. He's being a giant scumbag, but
• 33:42
  this is where using your relationships and using your
• 33:46
  friendships in this. This and being there a lot
• 33:49
  captures, good moments because you can literally tell in this
• 33:52
  photo in the stupid smirk on his face that he made complete eye
• 33:56
  contact at his fucking with you. You probably don't want to pull
• 34:00
  it out yet. How is this?
• 34:08
  Dude doing a photo shoot. So if you're wanting for
• 34:12
  listening at home, this is a shot of Killian McMurphy who
• 34:15
  just probably slam. And a kit wrap to the mat.
• 34:18
  There's a beautiful mountainous backdrop, Justin's talking shit
• 34:22
  in the background and killing looks like he's at JCPenney,
• 34:25
  just taking a photo. I can tell he's posing, right?
• 34:36
  And it look at me and hope you like and he's like, definitely
• 34:40
  throw poses out. He's and that is the brilliant
• 34:43
  move of just Killian in general because I once again this I
• 34:49
  don't want to, I don't, but that's a sanctuary move.
• 34:51
  When you're at the sanctuary, you're taught find the cameras.
• 34:54
  Yeah. Get the shot that's Killian fine
• 34:56
  on the camera but also knowing that Probably knows who you are
• 34:59
  because you're, you know, you kids, you're good at what you
• 35:01
  do. And he's like, I guarantee, if I
• 35:03
  look up paging to be right where she needs to be.
• 35:05
  And then there's the shot, Thunderbird, I tried to, I
• 35:08
  always tell people like out, listen, I'll catch you, okay?
• 35:11
  Like I always do, I always make it a point.
• 35:13
  I try and get people even photos of, like, people in their
• 35:18
  element walking around interacting interacting with the
• 35:21
  other person. But like, got any big moves.
• 35:23
  Let me know. You know.
• 35:24
  Like if you were I need to be. But yeah, I just just from this
• 35:28
  Experience here. I just I need one thing from
• 35:30
  you. You need to make albums of
• 35:32
  shows. You go to because there's two
• 35:34
  thousand photos of one folder and I'm dropping me.
• 35:37
  Crazy make albums. This is this is this promotion?
• 35:41
  This is this promotion. I do.
• 35:43
  Why are you on my phone? Are you on my Facebook for time
• 35:46
  on your business page? They should be an album.
• 35:49
  Now they're all in just one big upload folder.
• 35:52
  I don't love that. I'm gonna have to fix that
• 35:54
  because I do I go through and I sort them.
• 35:56
  That's one thing that promotions have also told me they're like,
• 35:59
  we love that you do that because we are not sorting through
• 36:05
  thousands hundred photos. That's another, another amazing
• 36:08
  photo. This is like a before-and-after.
• 36:10
  So this is before Yes, there's a Dina and Coach just killing the
• 36:16
  game. Now, this is after right.
• 36:19
  So in this moment she is doing a suicide dive with a broken in
• 36:25
  three spots collar bomb. I know it's like, oh my God,
• 36:30
  she's super human. Yeah, a Dana Steele, just once
• 36:33
  again and this is this is a venue where it's essentially.
• 36:36
  Just there's no special lighting, no special reading.
• 36:38
  This is just natural longing and making it look amazing.
• 36:42
  It's not in your photos. You're not making the place look
• 36:46
  unrealistic either, because there's some people who take
• 36:49
  photos and you're like, that's not the same venue.
• 36:51
  I watch the show, you know what I mean?
• 36:53
  Like, it's like, where did you pull this out of.
• 36:56
  So that's, that's another thing. So here's a question.
• 36:59
  How much of your photo is the natural photo and how much of it
• 37:03
  is post-editing? Because there's people who do
• 37:04
  that as well, who will take a photo and almost make it look
• 37:07
  like it did even was taken in the same place.
• 37:09
  You don't do that. I feel like you it.
• 37:11
  You you bring out. The venue more than you, do add
• 37:14
  to it and post editing. Because I think a lot of people
• 37:16
  spend more time in the editing process and they do in the
• 37:18
  actual photo taking this is true.
• 37:24
  A lot of it honestly is just color grading to the temperature
• 37:28
  of the lights. So for example, I WC the colors.
• 37:31
  Always throw very red. They throw very warm because
• 37:34
  you've got very warm lights, and then you've got the red ropes
• 37:40
  and then you've got, it's like a light bulb.
• 37:42
  Blue. But so that's always going to
• 37:44
  throw more warm anyway. So most of my editing is color
• 37:49
  grading. Like I think the gym that smash
• 37:52
  was at those were coming out, I think they had tungsten Lighting
• 37:56
  in there. So they kind of sometimes would
• 37:58
  have liked a little bit of like a green tint.
• 38:00
  And then when you get the different Blues, they end up
• 38:02
  pulling a little bit more cooler tone.
• 38:04
  So that's mostly what I focus on is making sure.
• 38:08
  Not only is it accurate to The Venue, but it's accurate to
• 38:10
  people's skin tone. Their gear because like, that's
• 38:14
  my job. It's my job to make sure it
• 38:18
  looks like how it did when it was there.
• 38:20
  Like, I really try not to do even with portraits.
• 38:23
  I really, really try very hard not to do any kind of like, fine
• 38:28
  little editing, like fixing makeup, or like, anything like
• 38:32
  that unless they specifically asked me to, like, I fixed a
• 38:35
  homegirls eyeliner or two, but nothing ever like, I don't go
• 38:39
  out of my way to like change anything, but that's most of it
• 38:41
  is color grading. and sometimes there's a little bit of I don't
• 38:46
  even like to mess with the exposure because you don't need
• 38:49
  to, you really don't need to get these cameras up properly.
• 38:53
  You shouldn't have too great. I mean, that's 90.
• 38:56
  That's literally 90% of it. That's like, I've always like I
• 38:58
  said before, people ask me. How do you get that photo?
• 39:01
  Like, how did you edit it? Like, it's literally 90% in
• 39:04
  camera and if you pay attention to what file format, you're
• 39:08
  shooting into, you can retain a lot of that information.
• 39:12
  I need to go out with you one day when you go photo shooting
• 39:15
  and getting whatever. My camera and I want to pick
• 39:17
  your brain and learn more tricks.
• 39:18
  I'll probably never use photography but it's something I
• 39:20
  want to learn as like a side hobby like I have a camera and
• 39:23
  everything I just don't know what I'm doing with it.
• 39:25
  Like I took some photos, I sent you like a try concerts and
• 39:29
  local band shows and I don't think they were terrible but
• 39:32
  that exact know that was that's 100%.
• 39:34
  Just me trying to learn how to set the camera up that was no
• 39:37
  post-editing. That was just what came out of
• 39:39
  the camera, right? And I didn't know how to do
• 39:42
  anything. I mean, like it's it's
• 39:44
  overwhelming. I will give people.
• 39:45
  All that, like, it is incredibly overwhelming to, like, sit there
• 39:49
  and try and learn it. But like, for example, there's a
• 39:51
  guy on YouTube, his name is Jared polin.
• 39:54
  He literally, for almost every major camera.
• 39:56
  So, like, Canon Sony Nikon no pain hath.
• 40:01
  A devil is pretty sure that next to no rustlers understand what
• 40:05
  we actually do. After a show, we after we shoot
• 40:08
  a show, never was a my photos. You took it with the camera.
• 40:11
  It should be good to go. Yeah, I need my photos right
• 40:14
  now. Right now but like Jared polin.
• 40:18
  He for like Canon Sony Nikon. He literally has videos there
• 40:22
  like an hour-long, an hour and 20 minutes.
• 40:24
  He literally goes through every single setting on the camera and
• 40:27
  tells you what it's for. Why it's there his opinion on
• 40:32
  whether you should set it or not.
• 40:33
  And like, that's a really good Baseline and then you can start
• 40:36
  from there, you know what I mean?
• 40:38
  Like, you trying to do Google it, my photos aren't sharp.
• 40:41
  Yeah. There's Reddit threads upon
• 40:43
  Reddit threads and there's YouTube.
• 40:45
  Videos, there's master classes. There's all kinds of things and
• 40:49
  I watch all the time where they talk about that.
• 40:52
  So I mean speaking of that, probably Alex, if you're here
• 40:57
  hanging out, please do me a favor, go through her Facebook
• 40:59
  and find me two photos. I need, I need the one where she
• 41:03
  took of Devon taste in the locker room, it's like a
• 41:06
  portrait style shot. Well, that's on my Instagram and
• 41:08
  I need the photo of when she took photos of Mercedes Martinez
• 41:14
  and thunder Rosa coming out of the top.
• 41:15
  Tunnel at the one likes thrall, on my photography, Instagram,
• 41:19
  you can produce find those and send them to me if you can,
• 41:22
  please because they're two photos that I was trying to pull
• 41:24
  out because there's a cool thing going to pull up with that.
• 41:28
  Anthony Grace podcast is hey Paige.
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  What advice would you give people starting out to being in
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  photographer? Quit now, joking, just it
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  honestly, dear doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, like start
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  with what you can afford, honestly, like, don't go broke.
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  You have to eventually put money into it, don't go broke for it
• 41:52
  and just learn your camera and take pictures all the time.
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  That's how you're going to learn.
• 41:57
  That's how you're going to understand all this other
• 41:59
  setting works. And that's what looks best with
• 42:01
  this or like, understanding the sunny 16 rule you can read about
• 42:05
  it. All you want with your aperture,
• 42:07
  but until you actually go out and you take pictures in it, and
• 42:09
  you constantly are just taking Photos like honestly learn your
• 42:14
  gear and go out and take photo on your style, I would say to
• 42:18
  the think everyone everyone tries to recreate somebody else.
• 42:22
  I think that's an any industry as someone tries to be the next
• 42:24
  something else be the first you, you know, I mean because you can
• 42:27
  look at people's photos and you can you can tell when someone's
• 42:31
  trying to take a photo, it looks like a page photo, but a page
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  photo at an airplane had photo or two different photos and
• 42:37
  they're both gorgeous photos. Like everyone has their style.
• 42:40
  Everyone has the what they look for in a shot?
• 42:43
  Just find your Niche. There's a guy who comes to
• 42:45
  wrestling show and I'm so sorry. I forget his name.
• 42:47
  I'm sure they'll somebody will tell me that yet.
• 42:49
  This dude shows up with like the old school style cameras and he
• 42:55
  shoots every show with these old old cameras and text.
• 43:00
  Yeah. And they're they're cool because
• 43:02
  it makes it literally makes a show in 2022 and 2023 look like
• 43:07
  he's shooting it in the 90s and it's super good shots.
• 43:12
  Yeah. It's really good shots of that.
• 43:14
  Like he what is his name so bad because I hate him.
• 43:19
  Erich Schaefer. Yes, he was sick.
• 43:22
  I was checking my camera which don't do that during the band
• 43:26
  show or wrestling show. Don't they call, I can't,
• 43:29
  there's a term for it, just wait till after the show but I was
• 43:32
  like checking a photo and he's like, man, I have to wait like
• 43:35
  two weeks to get more back and walk must be nice.
• 43:40
  So when he gets really, really good shots all the time and Is
• 43:43
  he's another example of somebody that just knows how to find
• 43:46
  moments. Hmm and cabinets.
• 43:48
  So cool, because they're so right there.
• 43:49
  Like retro looking photos and theirs.
• 43:51
  They're beautiful. They're so good.
• 43:53
  It's really and that's something you have been doing as well.
• 43:56
  Like at at the at the bar we were at the one night you were
• 44:00
  pulling out like old school film and all school can like you've
• 44:04
  been kind of going like yard sales and like like flea markets
• 44:07
  and finding old school cameras in the scene did antique and
• 44:11
  estate sales. I tried I don't like going there
• 44:15
  kind of morbid to be honest, like but I like go and I
• 44:20
  genuinely Hannah died and you're like going through her property
• 44:22
  and by know it feels really uncomfortable.
• 44:25
  You're keeping your keeping that that piece of history alive and
• 44:30
  not only you keeping it alive. But like you legit, you're not
• 44:32
  taking it all Cameron just putting on a shelf.
• 44:34
  Like now, you're fixing it up, your cleaning it, and you're
• 44:37
  using it. And you're bringing like so,
• 44:39
  essentially, you can take that same camera, find a Resetting in
• 44:43
  Lightroom or adobe that essentially like that style of
• 44:47
  photographer like first that camera and put it on your photo
• 44:50
  but it's not the same. No there's little tiny minutiae
• 44:55
  that go into it. But yeah, like I love going and
• 44:58
  finding those cameras that film camera was using at the bar that
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  was actually my paps camera. That's so cool.
• 45:04
  Like gave to me after he passed. So it's really cool to carry it
• 45:07
  around. I get nervous having it out
• 45:10
  around because like, that's all I got in my path.
• 45:12
  But But it feels really nice to take photos with it.
• 45:15
  Like he actually still had a roll of film in it that I have
• 45:19
  none. Alex is 70 some photos of their
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  thing and he sent me extra ones which is beautiful because
• 45:25
  that's another great thing about like photography is I can ask
• 45:28
  someone to send me their favorite shots, you've taken,
• 45:30
  and they're taken my take or two different things because what
• 45:33
  they see in the photo, but they're all great pictures.
• 45:34
  I'm loading up right now, but this is probably going to put
• 45:37
  some dumb meme up there. He picked two of himself.
• 45:41
  I also say that. Yeah, so I have a few other ones
• 45:47
  that I pulled up real quick. This is a beautiful track.
• 45:54
  Smoke and the lights, and her gear and like everything just
• 45:58
  pops in this photo. Beautiful photo, she's another
• 46:02
  good entranceway shot. That's beautiful.
• 46:06
  The light that Cole Carter. Yes.
• 46:08
  Or coleslaw if you're not his fan and IWC.
• 46:12
  So, okay, you know a kid is a kid.
• 46:15
  He's talented. I don't know why NXT let him go.
• 46:17
  I think that was a mistake. Another great shot here.
• 46:21
  Matt Damon. It's Alex.
• 46:24
  Yeah, that looks like the smoke and the lights lasers.
• 46:27
  Look so good in about you. Where is this promotion?
• 46:31
  This is there. It Marx's Court time.
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  It's in Elizabeth PA. So it's outside of Pittsburgh by
• 46:39
  think like an hour maybe if they're ever doing this show and
• 46:42
  I'm not booked, I want to go see one of their shows this place.
• 46:44
  Looks so cool. They're a lot of fun like to do
• 46:47
  on media, Jeremy klingensmith and his wife.
• 46:52
  They put a lot of effort into the lighting, the atmosphere,
• 46:57
  the spotlight, like all the camera work, they put a lot of
• 47:00
  effort into it, they're great, they're amazing.
• 47:03
  So here's here's the Or I requested of.
• 47:06
  I know you, this was a triple threat match.
• 47:08
  In my opinion, I was jealous that I never got to see this
• 47:11
  match Live and Not only, I didn't know you were there live,
• 47:14
  but you were taking photos of this moment.
• 47:16
  It was a triple threat match between Thunder, Rosa Dianna
• 47:19
  preso and Mercedes Martinez. What at the time and still today
• 47:24
  are three of the best women wrestlers in the planet.
• 47:27
  All going at it. Now this I'm getting chills
• 47:30
  thinking about it. So this is this is where this is
• 47:32
  where I'm gonna put Paige over super hard page.
• 47:35
  Was at this event, and she didn't have the opportunity to
• 47:37
  ringside. No, that's not.
• 47:39
  That's not stopping page page. And she's wrestling's.
• 47:42
  This is how smart breast pages, and, and here's the thing, if
• 47:46
  you're a wrestling fan, it's one thing, but if you are a person
• 47:50
  who's a wrestling fan, but also knows the backstage and goes
• 47:53
  backstage, and has those opportunities to be back there.
• 47:56
  There's a moment, there's a gap in professional wrestling that
• 47:59
  no one really gets to experience, and that's curtain
• 48:03
  to ring. Right before that.
• 48:06
  Curtain are right as they come out of curtain.
• 48:08
  There's a transformation that happens and every time I'm
• 48:11
  getting goose bumps right now because every time I think about
• 48:13
  it, people don't realize how powerful that moment is in
• 48:17
  professional wrestling. When it right before wrestler,
• 48:19
  hits that curtain and they turn into what they're going to
• 48:22
  present themselves to a crowd and, and some wrestlers will
• 48:27
  walk out and do that a little bit to the crowd and, and kind
• 48:30
  of give them a tease. But here's, here's a Captured
• 48:34
  Moment. Of that.
• 48:35
  This is literally Thunder. Rosa just hit the curtain and
• 48:39
  she's she's essentially transfer mating.
• 48:41
  She's turning into Thunder Rolls like she's hit the curtain,
• 48:44
  she's there but this is just like capturing that moment and
• 48:47
  there's a whole bunch of more photos that she has taken, that
• 48:49
  was kind of like on one side of the curtain and then on the
• 48:52
  other side of the curtain and they are the coolest moments of
• 48:56
  professional wrestling. I wish more photographers like,
• 49:00
  listen, it's really important to be ringside and get those shots.
• 49:03
  But if I'm ring-like here's the thing, if I'm a wrestler
• 49:06
  photographer, There's something that just drives me crazy.
• 49:09
  Those people who are trying to film the show and there's people
• 49:11
  trying to take photos of the show.
• 49:13
  And when they're 758 photographers ringside, it looks
• 49:16
  like a new Japan show and there's just light, bulbs going
• 49:18
  off and everyone's fighting over a spot, right?
• 49:21
  That's not where all the action is.
• 49:24
  Get the shot. Get shots from the crowd, get
• 49:26
  shots from a bleacher, get shots like someone be backstage, dude,
• 49:30
  a shot of someone getting in their gear, is just as powerful
• 49:34
  as a shot of someone jumping off a top rope.
• 49:37
  There's a ghost. Yeah, there's so many places you
• 49:40
  can put yourself in a wrestling show to get moments that are
• 49:43
  wrestler, like I'm telling you if you if you literally take a
• 49:46
  photo be mindful because sometimes backstage as wrestlers
• 49:49
  who are in masks, who don't want to write what to see them but
• 49:52
  even I don't know. Because they have a lot of
• 49:57
  respect. And there's also some wrestlers
• 50:00
  that you would say like hey I can take a photo of you like,
• 50:03
  you know, in prep mode. And this will never be seen by
• 50:06
  general public. And those wrestlers might want
• 50:08
  those photos to, and it really comes down to the photographer,
• 50:11
  talking to the talent and becoming comfortable with a
• 50:14
  talent and them trusting you that you're not going to put
• 50:16
  things out that's backstage at, they might not want IWC.
• 50:19
  Like they there will be times where there will be people that
• 50:22
  come through. Names, but they're there.
• 50:25
  And they're like training with everybody on their talking to
• 50:28
  everybody and they really love those photos but they know like,
• 50:33
  I'm not gonna like post them anyway.
• 50:35
  Yeah, it's very, very personal, but it's really like, they're
• 50:39
  the moments that people don't realize that are probably for
• 50:42
  the talent more special to them than the ones in the ring.
• 50:46
  It's a big full circle thing. For a lot of them.
• 50:49
  I think because you'll see their photos for example.
• 50:54
  Chris hero he helps out at IWC but he'll be there and he'll
• 50:57
  help people. You can tell their people that
• 50:59
  like I don't want to say like they've known like before they
• 51:02
  started training they're like Chris hero and he wasn't one of
• 51:04
  the guys that they watch and then being able to like maybe
• 51:08
  talk to him and like get his opinion on stuff.
• 51:11
  It's a big full circle moment for them so it's really nice to
• 51:15
  look at. I just looked up and realize our
• 51:16
  51 minutes. Holy cow, this is awesome.
• 51:20
  This is this is another photo. If you made This locker room,
• 51:24
  look cooler than it actually looks.
• 51:26
  But this is once again, an amazing backstage.
• 51:29
  So instead of setting up her area, you know, out in the
• 51:33
  middle of nowhere and using the backdrop or like a lot of people
• 51:35
  bring she essentially set up in the locker room and I love how
• 51:39
  you use the locker with zap taped on it.
• 51:42
  I don't know. Like that just makes this photo
• 51:44
  for me, but I wanted it is and all those tattoos.
• 51:49
  And the way the light hits and you can read all of his tattoos
• 51:52
  like what a great porch. Hurt like that that is better
• 51:55
  than just a backdrop photo all day long.
• 51:58
  That's using your environment. That's beautiful.
• 52:00
  I love the blue. The blue is actually from it was
• 52:04
  dark outside so that's the flash reflecting off of it was some
• 52:10
  kind of weird. It was some weird color.
• 52:13
  What was it? It's actually from the light
• 52:16
  coming outside and I thought it was really cool because I saw it
• 52:18
  because he has that orange gear, and then he has the blue
• 52:20
  mouthpiece. Yeah, I didn't want to set up in
• 52:23
  there. I was really nervous because
• 52:24
  there was a math. I don't know what happened.
• 52:27
  The mommy says a Kamala also. Thank you SM for subscribing.
• 52:31
  People have used your first time on the YouTube side of your
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  watching. This somewhere else, I am trying
• 52:36
  to grow on the YouTube sides, but I'm at the point now.
• 52:38
  I'm not even thank you for subscribing.
• 52:40
  Sorry. Yeah.
• 52:43
  There was like, I don't know what happened.
• 52:45
  I don't know. The flooded or what, but there
• 52:47
  was like some standing water in there.
• 52:49
  So, like Alex was there, Andrew is there.
• 52:51
  I was like, pushing cords up, hanging them up, like, I'm not
• 52:54
  trying to electrocute nobody right now but those are some of
• 52:57
  my favorite portraits of him. Philly.
• 53:00
  Mike, those are some of my favorites for sure.
• 53:03
  Yeah, using the locker. Here's some fun here, some
• 53:05
  portraits that someone thought was really, really good.
• 53:07
  I agree with him. Good for portraits.
• 53:14
  The Pearl in the middle of the block away.
• 53:23
  I don't know what this photo is, so maybe there's a story behind
• 53:26
  it. Okay, Jesus.
• 53:31
  Your phone. We were at about a Hannah
• 53:36
  convention and Alex, please correct me if I'm wrong, but it
• 53:40
  was a gaming convention but the people that run it there
• 53:43
  actually other therapists, it's for a really good, cause they
• 53:47
  actually a lot of people there. They build board games and the
• 53:51
  one that they're building. Now, it was for assisting
• 53:54
  individuals with autism with like different skills but
• 53:58
  they're doing with their learning them all playing a
• 54:00
  game. So, this is during a break, I
• 54:02
  was done taking Candidates for the day.
• 54:05
  And we were waiting for a panel to finish because he had a hard
• 54:09
  camp set up in there, and we were just outside messing around
• 54:13
  and he was like, there was a joke there.
• 54:16
  I can't remember what it was just crying for a second.
• 54:19
  You know, he posed. I was like, his, he had his, he
• 54:23
  was making a joke. He's like himself heart and I'm
• 54:25
  like, oh, Norm H TW. Well, like, when he posed.
• 54:28
  I was like, do that again. But, like, tell me to shut up.
• 54:31
  Tell me to shut up and he did and it came out.
• 54:34
  Really really well. And he wanted me to get rid of
• 54:36
  it and I was like absolutely not.
• 54:38
  Well he picked it. There you go.
• 54:39
  Here's a photo that is super cool and I think the lighting is
• 54:42
  dope, everything's cold but there's one other moment in this
• 54:44
  photo that I think Alex picked a really.
• 54:46
  Well, look at the ham. I'm sorry.
• 54:49
  I okay, that's Duke and Gannon. Duke is the one that's jumping
• 54:52
  right now. His hairs everywhere again, in
• 54:53
  is the one that's standing this photo.
• 54:56
  Like we're going in timea, it used to be the maid of them, but
• 55:02
  they shortened it to you this way that use that.
• 55:04
  Main Event. Mmm.
• 55:05
  Yeah, not to be confused with the other Main Event.
• 55:09
  Actually, wrestled Main Event versus Main Event in a main
• 55:11
  events. At this isn't wrestle.
• 55:14
  Rex. Last year, this is my first time
• 55:17
  shooting wrestle Rex, this photo went in and out of my recycling
• 55:20
  bin, I think three times because I loved it, but I was like, it's
• 55:25
  not straight his hairs cut off, but I kept it and it is easily
• 55:30
  one of my favorite photos of all time because, especially Duke,
• 55:33
  when he comes out. Out.
• 55:34
  He's like what I think he's like 65 or so, he's huge.
• 55:39
  He's they both are but like when they come out like the crowd the
• 55:43
  energy is unmatched and Duke like jumps into the crowd and
• 55:47
  he's whipping his towel around and like that is just, I don't
• 55:51
  know. I think it really accurately
• 55:53
  captures his energy. Now here's a question, here's a
• 55:55
  question for you, you're a photographer, right?
• 55:58
  You're being, you're either being paid her.
• 55:59
  I'm not sure what the situation but your ringside photography.
• 56:03
  This is also a Well, we're all the fans are ringside.
• 56:07
  Yes, how do you navigate that? So this particular show, I had
• 56:14
  my own so the end table, please, she's happy and she's ready to
• 56:18
  go. When you came down to the ring,
• 56:21
  the little entryway. There were two empty spots and
• 56:25
  on the other side wrestling with unicorns was kind of working
• 56:28
  around the ring but then the one sliver.
• 56:32
  What is I'm so bad with? Names.
• 56:34
  It is embarrassing Howard. He used to shoot at ECW a lot
• 56:38
  like a lot of their photos Howard took, he was there.
• 56:41
  He's friends with a lot of the people that were wrestling in
• 56:44
  the people that were running the show, but we were just stuck
• 56:47
  right there in that little spot and occasionally, like, I'd
• 56:50
  sneak up next to somebody with wrestling with unicorns.
• 56:52
  Like, I'm so sorry. Tell me to go away too.
• 56:56
  But that's you best, you get like a little designated spot,
• 56:59
  but there were a couple shots of Saint Adonis and psycho clown.
• 57:04
  They were up in the benches you like move out into the crowd a
• 57:08
  little bit. So it's all about I like to get
• 57:11
  to the ring early to kind of like right.
• 57:13
  If I know I'm going to be taking test shots or like if there's
• 57:17
  someone I know that in there like practicing I'm like, hey,
• 57:21
  give me a jump or like it, the ropes and like, I'll just kind
• 57:24
  of quietly test and see what my settings should be based off of
• 57:27
  that, but I personally love that show.
• 57:29
  I love the crowd being up against the ring.
• 57:32
  It's like, it's cool show to watch like that.
• 57:34
  At, I like watching shows with the correct slot and I like,
• 57:36
  especially if the crowd has to do a moment where they're going
• 57:40
  to do a dive or they're going to do something crazy like that,
• 57:42
  that's where the like they kind of have to like everyone back up
• 57:45
  back up. Like, I kind of like that moment
• 57:47
  where they the talent move the crowd out, like we're going to
• 57:50
  do something everyone scatter and then you can have those
• 57:52
  moments where it looks like skin move move, move it.
• 57:54
  Get out of Cher's. There's a couple people that are
• 57:56
  like, oh my gosh. Yeah, well like with the heels,
• 57:59
  like move out of the way. I'm gonna throw him in the
• 58:01
  chair. There have been a couple photos.
• 58:06
  It's mostly for looking at it. I WC B.
• 58:11
  Looks like I'm going to throw them out here and he like brings
• 58:13
  them out around and just throws it back in the ring and he's
• 58:15
  like, you look stupid. Those are photos to get were the
• 58:20
  crowds like horrified, he's going to throw somebody but then
• 58:23
  they're like betrayed and disappointed that he felt like
• 58:26
  just that crowd switchover or like whenever I used to take
• 58:30
  shots around the back side of the ring at IWC, which I think I
• 58:32
  might start doing again. So, when they're doing their
• 58:35
  rounds, when they're first coming out, like just seeing the
• 58:37
  Sea of people separated by like, a little, tiny barricade, and
• 58:41
  then someone, they either love or like really can't stand.
• 58:45
  Yeah. It just seeing all the different
• 58:47
  reactions through the crowd and like, the heel or the face.
• 58:51
  They're like, hey, I'm the last photo we have that Alex picked
• 58:56
  her jacket. Yeah, that's right.
• 59:00
  That's like, that's a curtain shot.
• 59:01
  That's coming. That was I think she was waiting
• 59:06
  for people to come back like the match before hand had just
• 59:10
  finished. And she was waiting for people
• 59:11
  to come back and they would love in her match, and she was
• 59:15
  getting warmed up. One of these was, now when I get
• 59:18
  my set up with my GoPros and I'm at a wrestling show, I don't
• 59:21
  know exactly where how, or when I'm going to do it, but I want
• 59:25
  to have a GoPro set up. Just at gorilla like facing the
• 59:31
  curtain before they come out. Yeah, just have it.
• 59:34
  Accord, I just have someone like just kind of before and after
• 59:36
  matches have someone go back and like start it and stop it, but
• 59:39
  just get those moment. Like just like probably never
• 59:42
  put them on public unless the wrestlers wants it but just kind
• 59:44
  of maybe just send it to the wrestler.
• 59:46
  First, I'm like, are you cool with this?
• 59:47
  But because I think that's such a cool spot that people just
• 59:52
  miss out on and wrestling. Yeah, I just thought that that
• 59:56
  zone and it's and the reason why I'm saying like I want to film
• 59:59
  there, but also I don't because it is a very personable, it's
• 1:00:02
  very private like I have it moment, you know what I mean?
• 1:00:05
  Like, but it's such a powerful area right there.
• 1:00:08
  Like, it is like, I mean, there's a lot of people.
• 1:00:10
  There are two very kayfabe like a Trestle Kate.
• 1:00:14
  You kind of got an idea of like who wasn't who was cool with it,
• 1:00:21
  but like most people really cool with it but I don't know, you
• 1:00:25
  kind of get a feel for it like some people give you a look like
• 1:00:28
  please don't, you know what I mean?
• 1:00:30
  And other people like C W Anderson.
• 1:00:34
  Is really cool for me. And he was like, I got a
• 1:00:38
  wrestling shows and then like it's kind of more and this is
• 1:00:42
  not me throwing shade. So people are trying to dissect
• 1:00:44
  that. I'm not but maybe I guess I am a
• 1:00:46
  little bit, I don't know, it just like.
• 1:00:50
  So what I do when I got this business, right?
• 1:00:53
  I come in and I go to every event and every show as a
• 1:00:56
  content creator, but I've tried to be respectful, right?
• 1:01:00
  And I think, like, a lot of people now are coming into the
• 1:01:02
  industry, whether it I think right now, the wrestling
• 1:01:07
  industry is in a weird state where like there's a handful of
• 1:01:11
  podcast creators are like content creators who have been
• 1:01:14
  welcomed into a show and then maybe people like me who have
• 1:01:17
  done it the right way and have been respectful, have opened the
• 1:01:20
  doors for others to get opportunities to do this or
• 1:01:23
  like, because moments of like Pat McAfee or they're starting
• 1:01:26
  to see on TV, that bring these outside content creators in
• 1:01:29
  because it could help bring exposure.
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  Then some people come in and they don't Have that respect and
• 1:01:35
  they just stick cameras everywhere and they do things
• 1:01:37
  and they go to spots and they act a certain way and it's just
• 1:01:41
  kind of like you can tell when a wrestler is not comfortable with
• 1:01:45
  the interaction because there was no like you haven't really
• 1:01:47
  earned that respect yet and you can tell on camera if you're if
• 1:01:51
  you're smart to the business that like they're not
• 1:01:54
  comfortable, what you're what you're doing you know what I
• 1:01:56
  mean? Like and then those moments or
• 1:01:58
  the reason why people like me don't get invited to certain
• 1:02:00
  spots because that one person comes in and just fucking does
• 1:02:03
  whatever they want. Because To get content for
• 1:02:04
  themselves, but they're not thinking of the entire.
• 1:02:07
  Because, like, when you walk into a show or a locker room or
• 1:02:09
  wrestling promotion, you have to put your content secondary and
• 1:02:14
  and you have to put the respect and the teamwork of ab wrestling
• 1:02:17
  promotion first. And I think that's where like,
• 1:02:20
  someone like me kind of stands out of being welcomed into the
• 1:02:24
  locker rooms and being welcomed back stage and being welcomed to
• 1:02:26
  do what I do because I I'm not going to blow up people spots
• 1:02:30
  and talk about it. But also like, then you have
• 1:02:33
  that one guy. Who walks in and just fucking
• 1:02:35
  guy, our girl walks in and just kind of shits on everything
• 1:02:38
  because they're, they're putting themselves first over the
• 1:02:41
  promotion and then it, ruins it for everybody.
• 1:02:44
  Well, I always like a big thing for me, especially being.
• 1:02:47
  And I hate to bring this into it, but especially me being a
• 1:02:49
  female. I am I am, especially, very
• 1:02:55
  conscious of the fact that Like I don't want to say, I'm looked
• 1:03:01
  at a different way because I'm really not like I'm one of the
• 1:03:04
  dudes essentially but also I'm a female.
• 1:03:07
  So personally I don't like to be in locker rooms like wherever,
• 1:03:11
  like, even like it Smash, If I'm handing out of shot list, I
• 1:03:15
  darted or I have someone running into it for me because I just
• 1:03:18
  I'm not supposed to be there. Like, to me, this is i-i'm
• 1:03:22
  genuinely. Very good friends with a lot of
• 1:03:24
  the people I work with. But like, when I'm there, I'm
• 1:03:26
  working and we're all professionals and like It's not
• 1:03:30
  yeah. Like you show up and talk to
• 1:03:32
  your friends and chitchat and things like that but it's not.
• 1:03:35
  It's I take it very seriously and very yeah, like
• 1:03:39
  professionally. So I really and I'm always
• 1:03:42
  cognizant of the fact that like I'm there as a service to the
• 1:03:48
  talent and the people running the show.
• 1:03:50
  Like it's I'm they're not getting booked around me, I'm
• 1:03:53
  getting booked around them, like I'm there to do service for the
• 1:03:56
  perfect, you know, to bring. So you're there to get.
• 1:03:59
  Get your photos and your moments and put Page, watchi Photography
• 1:04:04
  on the bottom corner of your photos.
• 1:04:06
  But when you need to do that, you need to handle it a certain
• 1:04:10
  way to get it done. So my my kind of take is sure I
• 1:04:14
  get invited to these locker rooms and I get invited
• 1:04:16
  backstage. So instead of sticking a camera
• 1:04:19
  in people's faces for almost a year and a half, I didn't tell
• 1:04:24
  anyone like that. I did a podcast or I didn't shut
• 1:04:26
  down people's necks or I didn't do anything.
• 1:04:28
  I just became Friends. And I've earned my spot and I
• 1:04:31
  put my content in my brand backwards and promoted the
• 1:04:34
  people that I was around and the promotion's.
• 1:04:36
  I worked for first great. And then I made connections and
• 1:04:40
  friendships and then they were like you, I'd love to come talk
• 1:04:43
  to you on your podcast and then when I have an interview with
• 1:04:46
  somebody, this is why my interview stand out that other
• 1:04:49
  interviews because I have a genuine connection with most of
• 1:04:51
  the people, I talked to Great honestly.
• 1:04:54
  Like that's what it all comes down to.
• 1:04:56
  I just gave you is all the secret to a BJ.
• 1:04:58
  It's It's a lot of networking like yeah it just basic human
• 1:05:04
  decency and respect. Like if I ever for example, if I
• 1:05:08
  ever tell us about policy and procedures, Okay, that's for my
• 1:05:12
  shoe job. It's actually about to get
• 1:05:17
  that's actually the policy and procedures of high-tension
• 1:05:19
  wrestling right there. Yeah, it's yellow and it's a
• 1:05:21
  warning sign saying, Alex, don't go there No.
• 1:05:26
  But like, even if I have to walk through like, if you literally
• 1:05:29
  have to walk through a locker room for any reason, I try not
• 1:05:33
  to have my camera. If I do, I have a lens cap on it
• 1:05:35
  and it's pointed down, its, I'm always very cognizant because,
• 1:05:39
  like, I've been in very uncomfortable situations and I'm
• 1:05:43
  just very cognizant, I do not want anybody else.
• 1:05:46
  Who feel that way? Like, no, you know what?
• 1:05:49
  I first time ever getting invited to a show was GSW, there
• 1:05:53
  was one female in the Posture and that female use the same
• 1:05:58
  locker room as everybody else and they're comfortable because
• 1:06:01
  they do it every weekend. And I remember sending my camera
• 1:06:03
  because I was the only spot were able to film and we set our
• 1:06:05
  camera. We have like this, what?
• 1:06:06
  We got our spot in the locker room, we're going to have our
• 1:06:08
  spot, we're going to interviews and then we kind of looked
• 1:06:10
  around and we see in like this is where everyone is changing.
• 1:06:12
  And we have a camera here and I hope that Brian.
• 1:06:14
  And then like the female Talent came in and I was like, let's
• 1:06:18
  dance, let's dip because I'm new, I didn't want to make any
• 1:06:21
  like so I left like, whenever one shake is my first time ever
• 1:06:24
  there. R and then I literally went
• 1:06:26
  back, I go Brian let's just pack up he goes what do you mean?
• 1:06:28
  I said we didn't get one piece of content, that was my
• 1:06:31
  first-ever wrestling promotion, right?
• 1:06:34
  But first time ever like working with a wrestling friend like oh
• 1:06:36
  you didn't get anything and I was like, the only place I had
• 1:06:39
  to shoot was the locker room and I feel like I haven't earned
• 1:06:42
  that yet and I don't and I don't want to make people
• 1:06:43
  uncomfortable up, who's this new guy with a camera back here and
• 1:06:46
  people are having conversations and going over matches and and
• 1:06:49
  talking personal stuff because it was a reunions show and
• 1:06:52
  everybody was comfortable and I was like, that's not a spot.
• 1:06:54
  The camera should be and that was my first time ever being in
• 1:06:58
  the business. But having that wherewithal to
• 1:06:59
  be like pack it up, we're not getting continent.
• 1:07:01
  Let's go enjoy the show and then we did a car ride home review of
• 1:07:05
  the show we watch. And that was our content, right?
• 1:07:08
  I mean, like, there have been candids I've seen where there
• 1:07:12
  are people literally in half stages of like, undress in the
• 1:07:15
  background. That's so crazy.
• 1:07:16
  And I just don't if you're doing any type of editing and you're
• 1:07:21
  going through your photos and you see that take Get out.
• 1:07:25
  Like I wouldn't even put myself in that situation in the first
• 1:07:28
  place. I've seen people take photos of
• 1:07:30
  people backstage and there's a clearly person who's not in
• 1:07:36
  masks in a photo. Yeah, that bugs the crap out of
• 1:07:41
  me. That's also part of the reason
• 1:07:42
  why I decided to move the portrait area, I actually felt
• 1:07:46
  really bad. What was the gentleman's name?
• 1:07:49
  That was at that outbreak show. We were deluged.
• 1:07:52
  What was his name? We're toast.
• 1:07:55
  Call me on mortis, yes, I felt really bad.
• 1:07:58
  I had my, I didn't know he went back there to change and I was
• 1:08:00
  like, let me know when you're done.
• 1:08:02
  Like my camera sucks. Gonna stay out here.
• 1:08:03
  He's like, oh my gosh. No, it's fine.
• 1:08:04
  I said no genuinely. I can wait not a big deal.
• 1:08:07
  Like just let me know when you're done.
• 1:08:09
  He said later, I appreciated that to write.
• 1:08:11
  I was, I was there when you said it and I was there when he came
• 1:08:13
  out and like gave you props for that.
• 1:08:16
  Well, in another, it's just a respect thing.
• 1:08:18
  Like I my photos can. Wait, it's okay.
• 1:08:22
  It's okay. I have a promo list but like I'm
• 1:08:25
  quick at it. Yeah.
• 1:08:26
  So that's you as a brand as someone who's working just as
• 1:08:30
  hard to put your brand over, putting the promotion and the
• 1:08:33
  talent before yourself and I think that's who books.
• 1:08:37
  Exactly. You know I wish more people knew
• 1:08:39
  that Snot like and you can still like it's not.
• 1:08:45
  Not all I want to describe this. Someone's like it feels like I'm
• 1:08:47
  not respecting myself and know. You are by virtue of respecting
• 1:08:53
  Other Bar bro that's only going to get ahead as kind of stepping
• 1:08:56
  on our just now yourself first. No it's not tell you wrestling
• 1:09:00
  and music is very small and like real talk.
• 1:09:04
  They all talk if you walk into a locker when you're disrespectful
• 1:09:07
  idiot and don't know what you're doing.
• 1:09:09
  Like, everyone's going to talk about it.
• 1:09:10
  I like I'm really not trying to be rude about it and but
• 1:09:13
  honestly, like Just err on the side of caution like just don't
• 1:09:17
  do it. Just don't like, Howard.
• 1:09:20
  I know he was taking portraits out in the alley behind wrestle
• 1:09:23
  Rex but he's known all of these people 10 plus, 20, plus years.
• 1:09:27
  And even then he is like tell you what?
• 1:09:29
  Meet me because I know you're getting yourself on, like, don't
• 1:09:31
  worry about it. Like meet me out in the alley
• 1:09:33
  will do will do portraits, so it's just really about
• 1:09:36
  respecting other people. Yeah, I think that was a.
• 1:09:38
  I'm glad we had that conversation and I think there's
• 1:09:40
  a lot of people who listen, you can have your camera set up, you
• 1:09:43
  can do everything but I think if you're going To get in any
• 1:09:45
  industry or business. That's what you have to do
• 1:09:48
  first, like, I understand it might be your first time there
• 1:09:51
  and it might be like, our here's my opportunity as a photographer
• 1:09:53
  to get cool things, but keep that in mind when you're working
• 1:09:57
  at a show or a promotion or something is like, maybe build
• 1:10:01
  the introduce yourself as a photographer or as a content
• 1:10:05
  creator or just make sure you're getting your content in a
• 1:10:10
  respectful manner. Like, if you're booked ringside,
• 1:10:13
  you're going to get content. Like you're booked for
• 1:10:16
  portraits. They are telling them.
• 1:10:18
  Hey, I paid for portraits. Like Alex says this brush, says
• 1:10:23
  this. I paid for portraits.
• 1:10:26
  I paid for ringside, like I need you guys to go do this.
• 1:10:29
  Like, if you're going to get your content you know, I think
• 1:10:33
  that's the thing too is sometimes promotions and I could
• 1:10:37
  I fall in the same category as a photographer.
• 1:10:40
  Sometimes like, listen as a content creator.
• 1:10:42
  If I'm not booked for commentary or I'm not booked for something
• 1:10:44
  sure. I'd love to get content from
• 1:10:46
  myself but sometimes wrestling promotions.
• 1:10:49
  They also over flood and over saturate that one job and not
• 1:10:53
  everyone's getting paid. So they're just like hey content
• 1:10:56
  creators everyone on the brother come and then we're all fighting
• 1:10:59
  for the same two pieces of content and then it gets not
• 1:11:02
  like ugly but it's like weird to go around for everybody and then
• 1:11:06
  like a promotional be like here's 17 photographers all
• 1:11:09
  fighting for the one corner spot you know what I mean?
• 1:11:11
  And sometimes more is not always good.
• 1:11:15
  If you're going to book multiple people in the same industry
• 1:11:19
  assign people spots like, hey, I need you to be ringside, I need
• 1:11:23
  you for this, I need you for that, because here's what.
• 1:11:25
  Here's, what drives me kind of crazy.
• 1:11:27
  Is what's the one thing wrestling promotions always are
• 1:11:31
  upset about if someone runs in a town, close to them are some
• 1:11:35
  ones to close. Their competition are of, they
• 1:11:38
  run the same weekend as me. They get generally upset because
• 1:11:41
  that's competition around them then they'll bring in 1440.
• 1:11:45
  Ographers and then wonder why there's drama at their show
• 1:11:47
  between the photographer's. I will bring 17 content creators
• 1:11:51
  in and they're just like well why can't everyone just get
• 1:11:53
  along? Why can't you run the same night
• 1:11:55
  as another promotion then like everyone still trying to do the
• 1:11:58
  right thing? You know, I mean like I've never
• 1:12:01
  had an issue working with other photographers ever.
• 1:12:04
  I've never had happened but other photographers can be big
• 1:12:07
  and I don't, I don't get it if anything.
• 1:12:10
  I think I'm too nice sometimes. Um, but like one thing, I think
• 1:12:15
  sometimes I can come across a little bossy because with
• 1:12:18
  ringside, I'm not going to sit here and say, it's really,
• 1:12:21
  really dangerous. You could break your neck.
• 1:12:23
  But honestly, like I've been doing it long enough.
• 1:12:27
  I know where people are going. I also know not to walk in front
• 1:12:29
  of hard Camp. So when I have to like every 20
• 1:12:33
  seconds, you're in hard camp or watch out like you have to kind
• 1:12:37
  of babysit. That's what I pull people aside
• 1:12:40
  and I say and if I'm a jerk for and I'm a jerk for it, I don't
• 1:12:43
  care. I don't want to see anybody's
• 1:12:44
  neck it bro. Broke or her talent because
• 1:12:46
  you're the wrong spot, right? I mean, like because they tell
• 1:12:50
  me their spots and it's nothing against you your new.
• 1:12:53
  They know that I've worked there.
• 1:12:54
  They know. Okay.
• 1:12:55
  Hey, like I got a tow page this so then when I pull someone
• 1:12:58
  aside and I say like hey you are in hard cam that's a No-No.
• 1:13:03
  Not even like I'm talking to a child like, hey, like, just
• 1:13:05
  watch out for her Camp talked to a couple people before to see.
• 1:13:09
  Like if they have any big spots, they want to give you and stick
• 1:13:12
  to Corners, like, stay out of the way of your roaming. camps,
• 1:13:15
  you know like that's I've never had an issue with it but it does
• 1:13:19
  happen. Like when there's multiple
• 1:13:21
  people there, I just think I've seen times where there's so many
• 1:13:24
  photographers ringside and wrestlers are trying to do stuff
• 1:13:26
  and they have to stop their, their spot or the you can see
• 1:13:29
  them and that's embarrassing. If I ever feel like they have to
• 1:13:32
  stop and be like, how am I gonna get around this chick.
• 1:13:34
  I duck like, I hit the floor, I don't care.
• 1:13:37
  I'll miss the shot. I'm not ruining.
• 1:13:39
  I almost didn't you go under the ring one time?
• 1:13:43
  A mighty and Jason Furious. Yeah, yes, it's fine.
• 1:13:49
  It's fine. Until your dog for your spots,
• 1:13:51
  but, no, I saw him coming and I saw the look on his face.
• 1:13:55
  He's like, Mages right there. What about throwing him?
• 1:13:58
  And I was like, it's okay. Did he came in?
• 1:14:04
  He came and asked me. He's like, are you all right?
• 1:14:06
  I'm fine. I do it.
• 1:14:08
  I WC all the time. Like as soon as I see them come
• 1:14:11
  to the corner. Or anything.
• 1:14:13
  I drop, I hit the floor, the joke on the headset is pager in
• 1:14:15
  the shock because like I'm always I do not want to be and I
• 1:14:18
  want to be very clear. This is not me or page saying
• 1:14:21
  that we don't welcome 185 content creators and 100 years.
• 1:14:25
  I get the more the merrier bring them all in.
• 1:14:28
  I'm just saying if you're going to come in as a photographer and
• 1:14:30
  you're going to come in as a content creator, just what we
• 1:14:33
  said earlier, you got to put the promotion and the talent before
• 1:14:37
  yourself and be mindful of that and it's it is not a
• 1:14:41
  competition. I understand.
• 1:14:42
  Trying to get content for your brand and everything like that
• 1:14:44
  and that's beautiful. But at the end of the day, if
• 1:14:46
  you're being brought in and there's nine hundred and fifty
• 1:14:48
  of us as content creators, we need to work together because
• 1:14:51
  our overall job is to put over the people who are working in
• 1:14:55
  that ring and the promotion who is paying the money to put that
• 1:14:59
  show on. It's not just about your brand,
• 1:15:01
  it's about the show, the more camera angles, the better like,
• 1:15:04
  yeah, Forest work side-by-side, it.
• 1:15:06
  I know you see all the time and like, I know like I've caught
• 1:15:09
  myself on headset being like a forest.
• 1:15:12
  Use them gazelle-like. So me, get over there.
• 1:15:14
  I can't, you know what I mean? And that's great though.
• 1:15:17
  Because like we both kind of go off of each other, like, will
• 1:15:20
  trade off. Do you want to get insurance
• 1:15:21
  through? You want to get insurance and a
• 1:15:23
  lot of it too. Is like, it's again, it's not
• 1:15:26
  dangerous thing ringside, but like the camber it, right?
• 1:15:29
  So it's I've been doing it long enough.
• 1:15:31
  I've gotten my like shit busted being ringside like I've gotten
• 1:15:36
  kicked in the shoulder, kicked in the face, like the whole
• 1:15:38
  nine. So like that's why.
• 1:15:40
  When I give you the and I tell These things.
• 1:15:43
  It's because I don't want you to have to go backstage and be
• 1:15:46
  like, I have a nosebleed or I crack my lens.
• 1:15:49
  Like, I really want you to avoid that.
• 1:15:51
  Yeah, like that's what it's why I say these things that's like,
• 1:15:54
  people bring it to you. They're just trying to help.
• 1:15:57
  Absolutely. So be open to it to me.
• 1:16:01
  So here's the end here for coming up to the end.
• 1:16:05
  I'm going to give it a couple of minutes.
• 1:16:06
  This is long on, I love it. If you guys have any questions
• 1:16:10
  before we get out of here, please use this opportunity.
• 1:16:12
  Ready now to do. So also once again make sure you
• 1:16:15
  check the links below to follow page on all social media and see
• 1:16:17
  her photos. And she does a beautiful
• 1:16:19
  beautiful job. There's so much more we could
• 1:16:21
  talk page. I could have you here for three
• 1:16:23
  hours. This is this is again where I
• 1:16:24
  try to keep a podcast to an hour and then bring everybody.
• 1:16:27
  I really care about it online, you know, I mean, but yeah.
• 1:16:30
  So I first of all want to thank you for doing this.
• 1:16:32
  It means it means the world to me.
• 1:16:34
  You are hands down and I know I probably say this every single
• 1:16:39
  time I'm on a podcast that you are one of my favorite people,
• 1:16:42
  but I'll I've been, I'm new to the game and I'm here since
• 1:16:45
  October and I have to get in a lot.
• 1:16:48
  A lot of people I truly truly care about because like I said,
• 1:16:50
  I made a lot of really cool people in a short amount of time
• 1:16:53
  in this industry and I haven't interviewed really.
• 1:16:57
  A lot of people that I didn't really know that much.
• 1:16:59
  I love those interviews. I love meeting new people so I
• 1:17:01
  don't want you to think. I'm just booking my friends.
• 1:17:03
  It is that not a lot of people are reaching out and I'm
• 1:17:06
  reaching out to my friends to come on, but seriously it every
• 1:17:10
  time we have moments and we have conversations, It's always a
• 1:17:13
  pleasure and and your hands down a bright spot in this business
• 1:17:17
  and I'm glad you're around. Thanks to you.
• 1:17:20
  That's right. Yes real quick.
• 1:17:21
  It's an hour and 17 minutes but we have to talk about slithering
• 1:17:25
  into the abyss, okay? Alex watt since you asked Ask.
• 1:17:30
  So they're going to be missed, it is a multimedia production
• 1:17:32
  company, so I want to start making films like feature films,
• 1:17:37
  short films. So that's where a lot of that
• 1:17:39
  content is going to start getting produced at.
• 1:17:41
  It is also where, when I go to different metal shows that I'm
• 1:17:46
  hook for this, oh yeah, we want to get your.
• 1:17:49
  So sometimes you're listening and you are fan of me and you
• 1:17:51
  know that I'm also kind of intertwined between professional
• 1:17:54
  wrestling and local music scene. If your band is on tour are
• 1:17:58
  you're going to be in a venue. Somewhere in Pennsylvania.
• 1:18:01
  Or if you're a venue in Pennsylvania, who needs a
• 1:18:03
  photographer for the event, please reach out to page.
• 1:18:07
  I'm giving you my stamp of approval.
• 1:18:09
  She's unbelievable. And she wants to add more music
• 1:18:12
  to her purr. For Leo portfolio.
• 1:18:14
  She has tons and tons of wrestling, and she's proven
• 1:18:16
  herself to be the top, if not the, like, the best in this area
• 1:18:20
  for that. She wants to add other stuff to
• 1:18:23
  her to her, to her resume. So if you need stuff done, if
• 1:18:27
  you need for Joe, what's up? What's the sexy photos if in
• 1:18:31
  lingerie? What do they call those?
• 1:18:34
  I love Valentine's Day is over. But you want to add a little
• 1:18:41
  cool. Little thing for your guy.
• 1:18:43
  I do. We know it's getting popular to
• 1:18:44
  when girls are doing like the old beer posters.
• 1:18:47
  You know how like the old-school beer post.
• 1:18:49
  There's a way to do them Tastefully and they're so much
• 1:18:52
  fun. They're yeah that's getting
• 1:18:53
  popular. Like stuff like that.
• 1:18:56
  Like hit her up. It's not just she's not just
• 1:18:58
  getting photos of people diving. The Rope she can do portrait,
• 1:19:01
  she can do, literally any type of photographer and it even if
• 1:19:04
  she hasn't done it, I'm pretty sure she wants to be challenged
• 1:19:06
  as well. So hit her up and she's super,
• 1:19:09
  super talented. But God's living together into
• 1:19:11
  the best is where, when I go to metal shows, that's where a lot
• 1:19:14
  of the contents going to start going through as well, is not
• 1:19:17
  even reviews, but just, this is my impression.
• 1:19:21
  Like, this is like how I got this shot.
• 1:19:24
  This is how I approached this show, things like that.
• 1:19:27
  So like BTS in A Shinto photography.
• 1:19:31
  You should honestly. And I know like I say this all
• 1:19:34
  the time and then I go to shows and never fucking do it because
• 1:19:37
  I hate putting myself on camera but like everyone's like, oh you
• 1:19:43
  should have log your days at wrestling shows and I like I'd
• 1:19:46
  love that. But the problem is, is I rather
• 1:19:48
  have the interaction with somebody and I forget to pull
• 1:19:50
  the camera up and be like, oh, so today the show.
• 1:19:52
  I did this and like and then I feel weird like in a room corner
• 1:19:55
  by myself talking to my camera like, but but I would generally
• 1:19:59
  Watching content, if you were like, hey, this is what I'm
• 1:20:02
  bringing to the show. Today, this is what I'm doing
• 1:20:04
  ringside like before the show like just cool.
• 1:20:06
  Like even if you don't your phone just like a quick like
• 1:20:07
  here's what I'm using, the here's my setup.
• 1:20:09
  This one when you try to do, I want to get some shots and then
• 1:20:11
  after the show's over but here's some shots.
• 1:20:13
  I took this is the cold moment. Like I wouldn't be interested in
• 1:20:16
  that content. Whether it be a wrestling show
• 1:20:18
  or a concert or whatever. That's what really good friend
• 1:20:20
  of mine CJ Downey. He's a very talented
• 1:20:23
  photographer. He's actually one of the ones
• 1:20:25
  that did a lot of the wrestle Cade portraits.
• 1:20:27
  This year, he we were actually talking about that the other
• 1:20:29
  Other day about wanting to do more because people don't know
• 1:20:33
  like they really don't know what goes into like and of course in
• 1:20:37
  the realm of this podcast like wrestling photography but even
• 1:20:39
  music photography like you just have no idea where to start.
• 1:20:43
  So the idea of doing that. So doing that there and like
• 1:20:46
  Alex had mentioned on the last one a lot of logs and like more
• 1:20:50
  content that we've wanted to do. That's not like wrestling
• 1:20:53
  related. He wants to drag me to another
• 1:20:55
  haunted attraction. So we'll see how that works out.
• 1:20:59
  No. But so that's what it is.
• 1:21:01
  It's a multimedia production company.
• 1:21:02
  It's going to have a lot of different things under there.
• 1:21:05
  It's a lot of me and Alex has interests so metal music because
• 1:21:08
  you know, I can't and I have enough time to play.
• 1:21:12
  So I'll just take pictures of my really cool friends play.
• 1:21:15
  What do you what instruments you play?
• 1:21:17
  I play the bass guitar. My dad played the bass guitar.
• 1:21:20
  He was in a. Yeah.
• 1:21:22
  Yeah. So my dad saw me doing this lap
• 1:21:25
  and he's like, no. Absolutely.
• 1:21:29
  Like, I brought home my base and he just starts walking out crazy
• 1:21:33
  train and all kinds of stuff. And I was like, it's just
• 1:21:35
  something I tell me my mom's like, Oh my God, yeah, your dad
• 1:21:38
  used to be in this crazy. Like Dive Bar metal band.
• 1:21:42
  It was okay, that's how I met him.
• 1:21:44
  But like, you know what you like, and I just learned this.
• 1:21:46
  Now, like, I'm just learning this now, like, I knew my dad
• 1:21:49
  was a Metalhead, but I didn't know.
• 1:21:50
  He was like actually in his own little metal band and then my
• 1:21:53
  mom's brother was actually in a really, I can't remember the
• 1:21:57
  name. I'd have to ask her but He was a
• 1:22:00
  bass player, so I play the bass. I love that.
• 1:22:03
  Like that's it's like a passed down thing.
• 1:22:05
  I guess now, but I can't remember anything ever?
• 1:22:09
  So like, I've tried to memorize songs, I'll be up there playing
• 1:22:12
  on how it goes or cute. The only thing I've ever learned
• 1:22:15
  on base because I was trying to teach myself how to play as
• 1:22:17
  well, was the beginning line to feel good ink bom.
• 1:22:21
  Ba ba bom. And I like, I'm a bass player.
• 1:22:26
  One of my favorite things when I was getting I would go to like
• 1:22:30
  bass lessons, so like my music teacher at TC, but then I would
• 1:22:33
  go to like an actual music store.
• 1:22:35
  The guy taught me, it's called green onions.
• 1:22:38
  And then there's like you're 16 Bar Blues, and those two, once
• 1:22:42
  you learn how to play those, you can really pretty much play.
• 1:22:44
  Like, any pop song you want. Everything's Like A variation.
• 1:22:48
  Build off of those. Yeah, well, you can do 14 and 15
• 1:22:51
  Bar Blues but like green onions, especially like the amount of
• 1:22:54
  pop songs built off of that wild.
• 1:22:57
  So that was my favorite party trick for a while.
• 1:22:59
  Like I mmm cracks back. I can play that song and it's
• 1:23:03
  really just because I do agree to yeah but I'd rather take
• 1:23:07
  pictures. Now, here's our last question of
• 1:23:09
  the day, Hunter says page, was it page was not a photographer.
• 1:23:15
  What would your dream job be? A filmmaker for sure like
• 1:23:23
  William Castle, Marty Scorsese, has Steven Spielberg filmmaker.
• 1:23:28
  I'm hella jealous, I didn't make Jurassic Park, I will always be
• 1:23:32
  jealous of that or I would be in a metal band right now.
• 1:23:36
  So one of those do if I wasn't doing photography, that's right.
• 1:23:40
  Be doing. I don't mind living in a metal
• 1:23:42
  band but I'd be a filmmaker. Are you kidding me?
• 1:23:46
  How does page episode longer than mine?
• 1:23:48
  I think Paige. Might have the For the longest
• 1:23:49
  episode, as of right now, I'm sorry.
• 1:23:51
  Alex, I'm just interesting. What do you want?
• 1:23:55
  I completely lost track of time. I looked up and
• 1:24:10
  I seen The Tick-Tock video words like when you got really good
• 1:24:13
  are somewhat decent, a whole bunch of different things
• 1:24:15
  because you realize that you probably have ADD when you're an
• 1:24:18
  adult and you never really hope. The one thing, it's a problem.
• 1:24:21
  I wish I would have honed myself in on one thing and channel.
• 1:24:24
  Instead of trying to learn 15 things, I like it was a losing
• 1:24:28
  battle. Like my Dad tried, like, with
• 1:24:30
  music with like the saxophone in the flute and the bass guitar
• 1:24:35
  and stuff. But my mom, I me she's.
• 1:24:37
  Yeah, I want to learn base, but I also need 100% complete this
• 1:24:41
  video game. And then I have to watch every
• 1:24:43
  single piece of wrestling content that ever existed
• 1:24:46
  because it's so we taking a photo and I'm like, what?
• 1:24:49
  What if I could learn how to, like, do do tattoos?
• 1:24:54
  Like I said, I should go try that which I would never do.
• 1:24:57
  Don't scratch. It's a miracle.
• 1:25:00
  It's a miracle. I get stuffed on commentary
• 1:25:02
  because, you know, I like my if I put out what my brain is
• 1:25:06
  saying, on commentary while I'm trying to call a match, like the
• 1:25:09
  like, I'm what a dropkick. But like, when I get home, if
• 1:25:11
  Prime Time wrestling happened, and I'm still improving in my
• 1:25:17
  brain, Terrible dude. Alex here, is it all the time?
• 1:25:21
  My mom hears and all the time. I'll be talking and I just go
• 1:25:24
  off, probably right? I called him.
• 1:25:26
  So I call him sidequest. Yeah, literally like mostly it's
• 1:25:29
  been Bernie Madoff. Sidequest like how did nobody
• 1:25:32
  catch on earlier? But they got out of I think it
• 1:25:35
  was like nine billion dot c. Sidequest nine billion dollars
• 1:25:39
  they got wait what was it? I think they got like six
• 1:25:41
  billion back out of the whole thing and it was all cash.
• 1:25:46
  ADHD is not fun. It's okay.
• 1:25:48
  But whatever. Well Paige is master of none.
• 1:25:50
  I guess it's I love you. You're a great person.
• 1:25:53
  I can't. I cannot wait to hang out again.
• 1:25:56
  Please. Anytime you have anything cool
• 1:25:58
  happening. I definitely want to when when
• 1:26:01
  slithering into the best becomes more of a thing I definitely
• 1:26:03
  wouldn't would love to have you and Alex on to talk about it.
• 1:26:06
  There may or may not be Social Media stuff out.
• 1:26:08
  Just put it out there. I don't know if that's supposed
• 1:26:09
  to be out there but there may or may not be go check it out.
• 1:26:12
  I found it by accident. They're like you should follow
• 1:26:14
  this because a friend I was like, oh, we had it out there
• 1:26:18
  but we just never post anything and Alex is like should we maybe
• 1:26:21
  started like putting stuff under here?
• 1:26:23
  I'm like, I mean I guess. Yeah.
• 1:26:26
  But uh thank you for your time. I think you have now have the
• 1:26:29
  record for longest podcast. I have to have to go check the
• 1:26:32
  record books. Well, I think you've done it, we
• 1:26:36
  will be back next week with some podcasts.
• 1:26:39
  So next Tuesday, will be the boys from the Welcome, Back
• 1:26:41
  podcast. I love you guys to death.
• 1:26:44
  So, essentially, their This is just two guys who met in college
• 1:26:49
  and then moved away from each other and but, and then like
• 1:26:53
  still stayed in contact but still like struggled between
• 1:26:56
  that friendship of not really seeing each other and being with
• 1:26:58
  each other every day from college and then started a
• 1:27:01
  podcast during a pandemic and they use it to re content
• 1:27:04
  rekindle their friendships and talk and hang out.
• 1:27:07
  So essentially you're hanging out with them and they're
• 1:27:08
  telling stories that are just essentially for them and having
• 1:27:12
  a fun buddy conversation and when you Listen to that podcast.
• 1:27:16
  You're going to feel like you're part of their friend group and
• 1:27:19
  there, it just really good. It's really wholesome content.
• 1:27:21
  I love it. Go check out.
• 1:27:22
  Welcome back podcast, then we have Shelby Waters, come on.
• 1:27:27
  And then we end the month with the dean of Steel.
• 1:27:31
  Whoo, there it is. That's, that's the month of a BJ
• 1:27:34
  podcast. Thank you guys so much for
• 1:27:35
  hanging out page, once again. Thank you so much for your time.
• 1:27:38
  We'll be live again at 8:00 tonight, talking about Survivor
• 1:27:41
  Series 2002, the first ever elimination chamber recovering
• 1:27:44
  the show. I still have to Watch some of
• 1:27:46
  it. So that's what I'm going to do
• 1:27:47
  right now, late night last night and then we're going to also
• 1:27:53
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• 1:27:55
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• 1:27:58
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• 1:28:04
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