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Lynne Watt - 60-64 Yr Old Champion at Legends Championship · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  What is going on, everybody?
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  Welcome to the Clydesdale Media Podcast.
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  My name is Scott Swich, I'm the Clydesdale, and I am so honored and privileged to have with me the winner of the 60 to 64 year old women's division, Lynne Watt.
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  Lynne, how are you doing?
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  I'm good, thanks.
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  Thanks for having me.
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  I'm so excited.
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  It's been so much fun getting to know the Masters athletes over these last couple weeks by interviewing the champions.
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  You are the seventh that we've interviewed, so about halfway through the lineup of champions from Legends.
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  And you are in Scotland, correct?
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  Yes, it's the evening here at the moment.
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  I think you're the first ever guest I've had.
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  We've done almost a thousand shows.
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  You're the first ever guest from Scotland.
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  Oh, well, that's good.
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  There you go.
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  It's good to be the first.
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  I don't travel to many competitions.
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  That was going to be my next question.
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  You're in Scotland.
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  Is there a Masters presence in the UK or Europe at all?
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  Not much.
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  Nothing like
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  in America.
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  It's getting better, but you really struggle to find competitions with enough people in your age group that want to compete.
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  it's usually age 40 plus or age 45 plus over here, which is not really ideal when you're 60.
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  So there's not, I think it's growing, it is growing, but it's just not enough for competitions to put on a category for our age group.
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  So yeah, so I don't do that many competitions, to be honest.
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  Yeah, and please forgive me if my internet is making me choppy.
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  If you've been a guest of the show or watched the show, we've been having some problems the last couple weeks.
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  It's funny because, you know, in America, we're still behind a little bit with Masters compared to the elite athletes.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  It sounds like it's even worse of a bigger gap.
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  I should say not worse, a bigger gap in Europe.
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  than it is here definitely for the for the older you know the older end i mean i think there's there's plenty of um 40 year olds and what have you know there's a lot you know a lot there but when it gets to maybe um 45 plus there's there's just not not so many and i mean it will eventually um work its way through but at the moment we don't get an opportunity to compete with our you know each age group
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  over here.
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  So what brought you to CrossFit in the first place?
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  I used to do a lot of boot camp stuff.
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  I was never into one specific sport.
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  I was always very sporty when I was a child, but just did anything.
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  I just liked to join in anything.
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  I played some field hockey.
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  when I was at school, which was a long time ago.
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  But other than that, it's really just been involved in all different things, things in the gym and eventually boot camp type training.
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  So that's what I was doing for a while.
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  And it was called British Military Fitness.
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  So it was kind of military people that took it.
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  So you were crawling in the mud and doing all things like that, which was great.
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  And one of the instructors had said to me, you should try CrossFit, Lynn.
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  You would really like it.
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  You would really like it.
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  And I went, no, no, no, no.
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  I'll stick with my boot camp now.
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  and i stuck with that for maybe a year a couple years and then eventually i decided to go along there was a local um a gym opened a crossfit gym it was it was new and they were putting on in beginners classes so i thought i was getting a bit fed up with my boot camp so i thought i'll go in and try it and they'll see what what it's like
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  And as soon as I went in, I loved it.
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  It was just all the different things you could do.
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  I thought, this is definitely what I'm going to enjoy.
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  So, yes, that's how I got into it.
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  Just one of the instructors at boot camp telling me about it, that there wasn't, I think there was maybe two CrossFit gyms in Edinburgh.
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  Then there wasn't many.
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  There's still not a huge amount, but it's growing more and more.
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  But back then, there wasn't an awful lot.
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  So it was a little bit different.
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  So that's how I got into it.
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  Just being advised, just saying, oh, you would love it then, you know, because I like trying things.
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  I've always liked trying things.
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  And so that's how I got into it in 2017, I think it was, when I was 53.
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  That's when I started it.
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  Yeah, so I was quite old when I started.
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  So you started at 53 and you made it to the CrossFit Games in 2021.
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  So that, about eight years of working at it?
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  No, it wasn't as much.
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  Four years.
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  Four years?
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  Yeah, four years.
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  But yeah, that year I was lucky in a way.
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  We took 20 people that year and I qualified in 19th
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  and totally shocked that I got there.
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  But yeah, so, and I think I finished 12th, I got there.
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  I still felt very green behind the ears.
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  I still felt it was a way, you know,
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  uh beyond me but i had such good fun when i was there unfortunately that was kind of post-covid time where we couldn't travel nobody could come with me i had to go myself because nobody was allowed to travel we had to get um special you know special forms and everything filled in to actually go to america but yeah it was a great experience um yeah so i've been working on my weaknesses since then
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  Yeah, I, that was my, that was my first year at the games as media.
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  And it was, it was a strange year because of the post COVID stuff.
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  Um, and, and there weren't a lot of people there.
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  Is it a goal of yours to get back to the games so you can bring family and friends?
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  yeah yeah uh-huh um i was hoping like now that i've just gone into the 60 uh 60 plus um i was just 60 in august so i kind of thought this could maybe be my one year it is you've got such a short window when you're in the age groups you know you kind of got to be younger
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  you have got outliers you've got some people that can manage to do every year but mostly for most of us it's generally your first year or say you know first or second year within that age group so I'm hoping to I'm carrying a wee bit of an injury at the moment which is a wee bit of a worry but I'm hoping to try and get through the stages and get there the new format the legends
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  I'm actually delighted with that.
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  To me, you're still going to be competing against the best, so it doesn't really matter that it's not attached to what the elites are doing.
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  So yes, my goal is to try and get there, hopefully this year.
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  Fingers crossed.
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  Yeah, the season has been kind of flipped upside down for the Masters.
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  Each stage actually has opened up greatly.
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  Yes.
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  With 25% at quarters, what, 200 at semis?
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  200, I think, yes.
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  Which it was only 30 last year.
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  Yeah, I know.
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  Yeah.
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  And I think I was 31st or something.
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  I didn't have a great, I just, my training was all over the place for a while, but no, that's, it's not an excuse.
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  That was just the way, that's the way it happens with Master of German.
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  Like, you know, there's always things going on.
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  But yeah, but this year, I think we take 20 in our age group.
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  I think it's going to be 30 for 55 to 59.
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  We take 20, I think, for our age group, which is so much better than just 10.
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  It's just a bit of competition, really.
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  Yeah.
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  so i'm hoping i'm hoping that um i can get there this year we're still waiting to find out of course when when it is and where it is but hopefully we'll find out soon yeah i know if everybody i've talked to that's the biggest frustration is where can we make the plans now those kinds of things so with everything being open bigger along the way like semis and quarters
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  Does it allow you to not hammer the body as hard in those first few phases than you would in the past?
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  Possibly.
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  I think it'll just be...
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  you probably approach it slightly differently because you, you kind of expect to be within that, you know, managed to get through in the open and the, you know, 200, you would like to think you would be in the top 200.
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  So it means you, you can possibly start training for the later stages of, you know what I mean?
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  You don't specifically have to train for the open, then train for, that's what my coach is kind of thinking anyway.
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  So I don't feel that I hammer my,
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  my body too much.
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  The training is hard, but I always take two rest days.
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  I only train five days a day, but I know a lot of people train an awful lot more than that.
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  I never feel that my body's too bad, unless I'm under the weather.
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  But generally, I think my training is quite balanced.
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  I think it does obviously ramp us up the further you get on through the stages.
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  But yeah, hopefully it'll just, it'll not be as tough to sort of think you've got to train for the open and train for the quarters.
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  I think you're thinking a wee bit further ahead in the hope that you can get through the other stages.
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  Yeah, we'll see.
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  We'll see what happens.
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  How long have you been with your current coach?
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  I've been with him coming up two years now.
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  um yeah almost two years um and it's with the is the coach from ward prep i don't know if you've heard from elf ward prep yeah yeah so it's one of one of their coaches so um yeah so he's just like getting to know me and and working on all this stuff that i need um i need to work on i never used i mean i used to just do classes and and just kind of do what
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  you know what i wanted but then what happened actually in in 2000 and 2019 is that the year they had the two the two opens um i think it was they had one at the beginning of the year in one october um i ended up with a um i had to get an emergency eye operation the day before the open started in october um so i kind of lost i had i couldn't train for a while after that
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  And then I started training again and then I had to get another eye operation the following year.
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  So I was out again for six weeks and that's quite a long time for masters.
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  I mean, I couldn't go upside down.
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  I couldn't lift weights.
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  So it was after that I kind of felt I'd lost a lot of confidence, lost a lot of strength.
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  So I decided to actually get somebody to program specifically for me to get me up to scratch.
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  And actually that following year actually made the CrossFit game.
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  So it was a good move to get a one-on-one coach.
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  for me specifically it it's funny because i've um i've had the owner on my show i didn't know they did uh personalized programming for masters i knew they they had a special track for masters and i know they have a lot of like what i want to call classes on specific movements yes they do
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  But I did not know they did personalized programming.
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  That's really cool.
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  They do one-on-one, yeah.
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  I have, yeah.
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  They've got, I think, maybe three or four coaches that do one-on-one.
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  To be honest, I don't know how many they all have.
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  I mean, they've all got, obviously, a few clients.
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  But yeah, they do offer one-on-one coaching at WordPress, so.
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  Before that, I was actually following their program.
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  And anyway, I bought some of Ben's courses for pull-ups and things like that.
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  And then that's why I approached them for one-on-one because I liked the stuff that they did in their programming.
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  Yeah, I'll have to reach out to Ben and have him back on and talk about that.
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  Yeah.
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  It's something I didn't know they were doing.
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  And I always butcher his last name, so I'm not going to try that at all today.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Yeah, I know.
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  I actually can't even pronounce that either.
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  So you did that before you made the games in 22?
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  21, I made the games.
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  21.
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  Right.
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  21. 21.
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  You were with WOD prep then when you made the games?
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  Yes.
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  Yes.
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  How much did you learn?
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  I was with another coach actually before, but still from WOD prep.
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  Then I switched coaches not long after that, just to get more stuff specific for me, but I've been with Orlando for coming up two years now.
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  Yeah.
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  And,
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  He was with you at Legends.
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  I saw some pictures.
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  Yeah, he was.
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  And he was there.
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  What was it like?
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  Is he based here in the States?
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  He's in Washington, Seattle, so the West Coast.
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  Yeah, so it's remote.
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  And sometimes the time difference is a wee bit, because I think he's eight hours behind here.
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  uh but it works you know and we have zoom calls now and again but it was really nice to actually meet him in person him and his wife his wife came as well so it was it was lovely to to meet him in person yep what was it like to have your coach right there with you because you probably haven't had that before
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  No, it was great, actually.
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  It was good.
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  He was actually looking after a few Wodpret people there, so he was constantly back and forward.
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  But it was really nice to know that he came into the warm-up area and just kind of kept me calm and just gave me a wee bit of advice.
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  And then I knew that he was watching the side when my friend had come out with me as well.
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  So it was really nice to know that he was there and I could see him afterwards as well.
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  So, yeah, that was good.
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  With an experience like that, do you get more data points to take back and correct or to adjust and tweak than you would...
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  if he wasn't, yeah, it was good.
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  Do you mean like he could see things that I needed to work on and I know I've got to work on, but yeah, it was good that we could see, you know, the things that I struggled with and the things that I was actually really good at.
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  So yeah, it was a good experience and I think it was really worthwhile to give us something moving forward to work on.
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  Yeah, that's great.
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  So is this your biggest win you've ever had?
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  To be honest, I had done a competition.
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  After seeing there's not many competitions, what happened was, you know Kelly Friel, the Masters athlete, she's won in quite a few age groups, I think.
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  She's won the Games the last three years, Kelly Friel.
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  She's from the UK.
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  I think she's in the 40s.
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  Well she owns CrossFit Southampton in England down south and they took over the British Masters competition.
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  So I did the qualifiers for that
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  in my new age group a 60 plus but it ended up there just wasn't anybody else in the 60 plus but they allowed i asked them if i could participate in the 55 to 59 because i literally was only just turning 60 when the competition ran so i competed against the 55 to 59 year olds
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  And I won that.
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  So that was my first, but it was a lot smaller.
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  It was a smaller competition.
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  So I would see the end, but it was great to win.
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  Yeah, it was great to win that, but the legends,
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  was bigger a bigger competition um and obviously participating against like all my other other people in my age group so that was my biggest win i was so surprised i wasn't expecting to win to be honest i had been on a family holiday um for a couple of weeks in america and i was only back a week just getting over my jet lag just back a week and then i was a way out to phoenix um so there was a lot a lot of traveling and i have to say
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  it was really tiring.
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  I was very very tired when I got there and it told on the first day I really struggled.
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  But the second and third of my adrenaline just kept me going and there was workouts that suited me and by the last day I was very tired.
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  I just think all the travelling took a lot more out of me than I expected but it was well worth it.
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  We had such a good time.
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  It was great fun and it was nice to actually
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  have nice weather nice warm weather because it's really cold here just now so yeah definitely this one yeah yeah we um so i'm in i'm in northern america so i got so i'm probably right at the same uh weather lot latitude that you are
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  yeah yeah it can be really cold or really wet really windy we get a whole mixture but um it was it was lovely to actually go outside after your workout in phoenix and it was just lovely weather it was just so and i didn't have to warm up as long it takes me forever to warm up here
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  I think just being older, it just takes me forever.
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  So that was lovely.
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  It was just a really good experience.
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  So friendly.
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  I was really nervous, but it was great having my coach there and also my friend.
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  I don't think I would have gone if I'd had to go myself again.
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  I think the fact that my friend said she would come with me, it was just brilliant.
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  We had such good fun.
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  So yeah, it was good.
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  Well, back to Kelly Friel.
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  I actually met her at the 21 games.
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  Ah, right.
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  Okay.
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  So we actually stayed in the same hotel.
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  All right.
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  The hotel had grills out back in the courtyard.
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  Oh, nice.
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  And her and I were sharing a grill.
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  I didn't even know she was an athlete at the time.
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  Like we were just, we were talking and...
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  all this stuff and grilling steaks and chicken and all that and um and then the next day i go to the venue and she's out on the floor and i'm like oh my goodness yeah from that point forward i followed her career she's been on the show four or five times i think she was lovely she was so nice and they they took over they took over the running of the british masters just
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  We're in 24 now, just in 23 there.
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  And I think that's what they're hoping to grow it again for the masters, you know, because there's just not a lot for all the age groups.
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  So it was good.
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  Again, it's smaller because I think they only have eight in each age group.
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  But it was very well run and that was a good competition.
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  She was really helpful.
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  She was really nice.
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  So it was good to meet her and I follow her now.
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  And she's probably the face of women's masters outside of the United States.
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  Yeah.
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  She's won so much.
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  Yeah.
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  It's good.
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  It's good.
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  Yeah.
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  Hopefully it'll grow.
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  It'll help grow the sport in the UK.
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  Yeah.
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  Hopefully we want this sport to grow for all the masters athletes for sure.
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  Yay.
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  So you come in, you said you came in jet lagged.
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  The first day was definitely not your best day.
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  Oh my goodness.
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  So is swimming, is it the swimming is not a good thing for you or just your time?
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  No, it's not.
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  it's not a good thing for me anyway but i had been practicing but i think just and and you know i mean in there because we had literally we've traveled for 24 hours and then we had we did have the wednesday but i hadn't slept i didn't sleep that night but i knew the swimming one would be difficult for me but i didn't expect to be quite as as tiring and when i first did the was the shoulder to overhead with the
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  The dumbbell, I thought, this actually feels really good.
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  This feels good.
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  Went and did my swim and I came out and had nothing in my legs.
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  It was just, oh, it was such a struggle.
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  So hard.
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  A lot harder than it should have been, I think.
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  I mean, I would have at the best finished middle of the pack, but that was very, very far down.
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  And I was not expecting to do as well in the lifting event because that's not my strength.
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  I'm quite a small athlete.
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  One foot lifting isn't my...
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  my thing really, but how I managed to get fourth, I was totally shocked at that.
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  So that kind of pulled me up a wee bit.
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  Second and third day were kind of my kind of workouts.
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  So I did really well, a lot of catching up the second and third day, which was good.
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  And it was just about holding on on the last day because I was absolutely shattered.
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  So with the swim, I love the way they programmed that event.
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  My background is swimming.
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  To do well in that event, you had to try to go unbroken on the shoulder to overhead.
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  And that forced your heart rate up.
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  And then you had to get back in the pool and kind of relax with your stroke to get like back in a rhythm.
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  And so it wasn't just a simple get from point A to point B on the swim.
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  Adding that dumbbell really changed the dynamic of the workout.
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  Definitely.
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  And I think if you're not a swimmer,
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  it's such swimming is a whole different thing as far as fitness is concerned the breathing and uh oh god so if you were a good swimmer i think you could relax in the swim if you're not a good swimmer you just i just couldn't relax um i tried my best but uh yeah it wasn't it wasn't my best it wasn't my baby if you're not relaxing on a swim you're not going to be efficient
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  I promise my friend, we were going swimming every Thursday evening when we were going, we were adding in just more lengths.
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  And we've said, I'm going to carry that on.
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  I have to do it because it's going to come up in competitions.
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  So I just have to get a bit better at that.
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  So that's something I've definitely got to work on, but I just hated that.
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  I mean, I just felt so bad after that.
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  Anyway, we always have one bad event.
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  pools that allow you to bring in dumbbells or kettlebells yeah this is an issue I had even when we were training for the games when we got swimming programmed and they would say do other exercises we just cannot do that our pools we just can't do it so we don't have the ability to do that here but that's
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  That's just one of the things you have to accept.
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  I just have to try and get better at swimming in the hope that I can hang on a bit better next time.
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  But it was a good event.
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  I mean, that was, it was a well-programmed event.
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  It was good.
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  And it was great to see the people that were good swimmers.
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  I just, you know, when you just watch them, it was just fantastic.
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  I mean, my son, my oldest son was a really good swimmer.
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  But I've just never, ever really, I can swim, but I've never tried to develop my swimming.
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  So it's something that I have to, I have to do.
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  Yeah, then you go into the lift and you're a smaller athlete.
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  My co-host on Thursday night, she won the 40 to 44-year-old division.
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  Oh, Jeannie.
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  Jeannie, yeah.
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  She was amazing.
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  I managed to see her in the last event.
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  Yeah.
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  And when she was in 35 to 39, she would finish at the bottom of a lot of lifting events.
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  She gets to 40 to 44 and now she's middle of the pack.
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  And it just, it was a complete change of mindset at that point.
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  Yeah, definitely.
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  Yeah.
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  I know I wasn't because I took fourth of thinking that.
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  Honestly, I didn't even know I'd taken fourth because I was like, oh my God.
• 25:44
  And you know as well, what's really difficult is I work in kilograms.
• 25:48
  So my coach had to try and tell me what colours.
• 25:53
  Now that, if you put that colour, that colour, that so many and I had a wee bit of paper with me because I would have no idea.
• 25:59
  You've got four minutes and trying to convert the pounds into kilograms.
• 26:04
  So I had my wee bit of paper so I knew roughly what I was putting on the bar.
• 26:09
  And then I just kept trying and I had no idea where I'd finished.
• 26:13
  I knew I hadn't done, I'd managed to do okay in the snatch.
• 26:17
  I kind of thought I've done what I thought I could do in the snatch.
• 26:20
  In the clean and jerk, I was a wee bit disappointed.
• 26:23
  I couldn't tell you what I got actually, but I failed my jerk on the last lift.
• 26:27
  So I had no idea.
• 26:30
  I was feeling so tired that day.
• 26:31
  We got home to the hotel and it was my coach had said, you got fourth in the lift.
• 26:35
  I hadn't even looked.
• 26:36
  I couldn't believe that I got fourth.
• 26:37
  So that kind of boosted me a wee bit because I think it took me up to 10th before going into the second day.
• 26:44
  So, yeah, so that was a nice bonus.
• 26:48
  But I always expect to fall really down in the rankings when the lift, you know, the max lift comes in.
• 26:56
  Well, and then you and Jamie have another thing in common because you both swept Friday.
• 27:02
  Wasn't it?
• 27:03
  Yeah.
• 27:04
  Yep.
• 27:06
  I can't remember what the events were.
• 27:09
  So the first one was Hell's Bells.
• 27:10
  That was the, where you hold the grip test with dumbbells and the lunges and the devil's press penalty.
• 27:18
  Were you able to go through unbroken?
• 27:21
  Yeah, I just held on to it.
• 27:23
  It wasn't a heavy, it wasn't too heavy a dumbbell.
• 27:25
  It was like, in my money, it's 10 kilograms.
• 27:31
  I can't remember what it was there.
• 27:33
  And I thought that's not too heavy, but it was just your grip, just being able to hold on.
• 27:37
  The thing that I thought would maybe catch me out was the squat cleans, but they actually, once I got through them, I thought I knew I could do the devil's press unbroken.
• 27:45
  So yeah, I was pleased with that.
• 27:48
  Mm-hmm.
• 27:48
  So that starts your run, and then you go into jump, which is the rope climb, the three varieties of rope.
• 27:58
  I like that one.
• 27:59
  Yeah, and I just managed to do unbroken on that as well.
• 28:03
  I just made sure I didn't feel any rope climbs, and I did unbroken on all the ropes, which was great.
• 28:10
  So I really enjoyed that one.
• 28:12
  So I had a good day on the Friday.
• 28:15
  That rope was Jamie.
• 28:18
  Jamie tries to come on to these, but this happened right in the middle of her training day.
• 28:23
  She was training hard.
• 28:27
  um but she um like she loves rope climbs so much and she loves jump rope but she the heavy rope got her oh but they had doubles we just had singles that would have been hard to do doubles with that heavy rope to be honest in a way I wish we'd had doubles sometimes I kind of wish we had some of the things that the others had um the singles were actually fine with that heavy rope but it would have been difficult with the doubles I think
• 28:56
  Yeah.
• 28:57
  Yeah.
• 28:57
  She did it on broken and warmup a ton of times.
• 28:59
  And the minute she got on the floor, I think her head just, she went ahead and did the crossovers and like just held the rope wrong or something.
• 29:07
  But that, that brings me to something where I was talking to Tony Tursky who won men's, I think your division.
• 29:17
  65, 60, maybe 60, 64.
• 29:18
  I've seen him on Instagram.
• 29:19
  And
• 29:24
  And he is of the belief that the programmer should let
• 29:31
  let the athlete show off like if an athlete is in 60 to 64 and they can do a bar muscle up there should be a spot in the workout that they get to show that off and do the bar muscle i think so because i think also it's a separator sometimes i think you need that um and because you do train all these these things you train your ring muscle ups your
• 29:54
  bar muscle ups and I mean I'm not great at bar muscle ups but I know I can get up and over so I always quite like it when something like that comes in because you think well you can either do it or you can't kind of thing and I think sometimes in big competitions you have to have a bit of a separator sometimes with a movement but they did allow us to do that in the final round of
• 30:17
  I can't remember the name.
• 30:18
  I don't remember the name of all the workouts.
• 30:20
  I understand, man.
• 30:23
  It was the first workout of the next day.
• 30:25
  Yes, that's right.
• 30:27
  And you had the clean and jerks and the snatches with the bar muscle-ups.
• 30:32
  We had chest to bar, chest to bar, then bar muscle-ups.
• 30:34
  That's right.
• 30:36
  I kind of struggled with that with my grips.
• 30:38
  I kept slipping my, the grips I use, because in our gym we don't really use chalk on the bars, so I have chalkless grips.
• 30:45
  But as soon as you get a bit of chalk on them, they just slip.
• 30:50
  And eventually I just threw them off when I was doing my last bar muscle up and it felt so much better.
• 30:54
  But you live and learn with things like that.
• 30:57
  But yes, it was good they put the bar muscle ups in at the end there, because it meant the people that could do it could get that wee bit further, so.
• 31:05
  And that was the last minute change, and it was really good that they did that.
• 31:08
  Yeah, definitely.
• 31:10
  Tony had an example of a guy who finished 19th, but one thing he had was bar muscle-ups, and in that event, he got to show off.
• 31:18
  Yeah, which is nice.
• 31:20
  And it probably gave him the encouragement to keep pushing forward to get better and better at everything else.
• 31:27
  Yeah, I would say that, yeah, definitely.
• 31:32
  So you won that one as well.
• 31:34
  Because I've got one, I think I've got one extra bar muscle up to the person that's second.
• 31:39
  Yep.
• 31:39
  And then you finish Saturday with another one bites the dust.
• 31:44
  And this is where my memory is a little bit fuzzy.
• 31:47
  Is this the heavy cleans and the handstand walks?
• 31:50
  Yes.
• 31:50
  Yes.
• 31:51
  Now, there's a story with that as well.
• 31:54
  The girl that won it would have won it anyway.
• 32:00
  But I, while I was...
• 32:03
  doing my cleans I thought gosh they feel really heavy it's not a it's not a strength of mine squat cleans a power clean I would always choose to power I just for some reason I hate doing a squat on anything and I thought gosh this feels quite heavy and I think I was into I don't know I think I'd done maybe on my third round they swapped my bar out because I had the wrong weight on it they had the wrong weight so I think I had too heavy a weight I have no idea what
• 32:28
  what it was, whether it was a men's bar, but it was too heavy.
• 32:31
  So as soon as they swapped it in, oh, it felt so much, it felt so much better.
• 32:36
  I think that happened to one other girl in heat as well.
• 32:39
  But I mean, I never put, because the girl that won it, she deserved to win it, but I was second in that one.
• 32:44
  I still would have been second, I just would have been a bit closer to her.
• 32:49
  But yeah, that one was funny because they programmed the handstand walks before the cleans.
• 32:54
  So some people never did a clean.
• 32:57
  A lot of people in my heat never actually managed to get to the cleans because they couldn't do the handstand walks.
• 33:04
  But I think there was going to be four in our heat that managed to finish that.
• 33:08
  I was really pleased with that one as well.
• 33:11
  My handstand walks actually showed up that day.
• 33:14
  So that goes to the flip side of programming.
• 33:17
  Yeah, you want people to be able to show off what they can do, but you don't want to make the barrier so hard that nobody...
• 33:25
  I was surprised.
• 33:27
  I thought they would have made them clean and then handstand, but they never.
• 33:32
  And I think that, to be honest, that probably for the last day, it probably meant that their legs were nowhere near as fatigued for that last one, which was a lot of squatting as well.
• 33:46
  So the ones that maybe didn't do so well in that one did quite well on the last day.
• 33:51
  It was interesting to actually see that.
• 33:54
  because they didn't have to do any of the squat cleans because they couldn't do the handstand walks.
• 33:59
  But yeah, so I did get a second in that one.
• 34:01
  I was really pleased with that as well.
• 34:04
  So the middle two days, three firsts and a second.
• 34:09
  Yeah, I was delighted with that.
• 34:13
  So what did the leaderboard look like for you going into that final double event?
• 34:19
  I had 40 points clear.
• 34:24
  So it was a big cushion, but I was still so nervous.
• 34:26
  I just didn't expect to be in that position.
• 34:28
  I've never been in that position that people are chasing me like that.
• 34:32
  And I knew that I was really tired as well.
• 34:35
  And I thought, of course, this is going to be so hard, this back-to-back, the back-to-back workouts.
• 34:40
  And you had actually no idea where you were because everybody was on the floor.
• 34:45
  So you had no idea where you had come in the first event before you started the second event.
• 34:52
  And I knew I'd done really badly on the, I had hardly anything in the tank by the time I was doing the thrusters and the burpee one.
• 34:59
  So I knew I hadn't done so well on that one.
• 35:02
  So it was just, I had to, I was refusing to look at leaderboard for a wee while.
• 35:06
  And then eventually somebody came up and said, you've won.
• 35:09
  So I was 20 points clear, I think.
• 35:12
  Yeah.
• 35:13
  You won 671 to 651.
• 35:14
  But about that last workout,
• 35:21
  They had an unusual lane formation where if you were in the lead, you actually were facing the entire crowd or the entire field of athletes.
• 35:34
  I could see everybody.
• 35:34
  I was right at the very back, so I could see.
• 35:38
  But if you were in second, your back was to everybody.
• 35:42
  that's right yes I know it was strange wasn't it because I was aware that Litza was a way up at the front and I was at the back so I could see her and I could all see the girl that was that was trying to keep in third place she was right in front of me as well so um I did have a bit of an advantage there but to be honest you kind of totally lost track where you were in that um workout anyway with the with the snatches and the
• 36:06
  the squats yeah i honestly i said that i felt really bad after the swim event after that last event i was totally wiped out i've never felt so drained in my life and it was it took so much out of me i think again it was just a combination of fatigue nervousness um yeah it took me a long time to recover from that one but once i found out i had one i started to recover quite quickly
• 36:33
  Again, you're the seventh champion I've talked to.
• 36:36
  And then eighth is Jamie.
• 36:38
  So with that formation, the others told me they knew who they had to beat.
• 36:44
  So like they would watch that person.
• 36:48
  And if that person would put the dumbbells down, they'd put the dumbbells down.
• 36:52
  Yes.
• 36:55
  They were picking up the barbell.
• 36:56
  And it was that way through.
• 36:59
  And it did give them a distinct advantage.
• 37:03
  Some even admitted it was probably too much of an advantage.
• 37:06
  Yeah.
• 37:08
  It probably was.
• 37:09
  But yeah, I think I was just so nervous and feeling so tired.
• 37:12
  I think I just totally lost track.
• 37:14
  I just knew that some people were in front of me, but I think I maybe got sixth or seventh.
• 37:18
  I can't remember on that first, the first part.
• 37:22
  But the second part, I was, I mean, I thought I'd be able to do these thrusters unbroken, but my legs were just like bled.
• 37:30
  Yeah, I had to just really hang on to the end.
• 37:34
  You guys did a lot of squatting.
• 37:35
  A lot.
• 37:37
  And I don't like squatting.
• 37:39
  um but we did a lot a lot of squatting and you know as well there was no machines which actually surprisingly i wasn't sad about that because being a small person i'm it's not my strongest thing but um yeah there was no machines either um yeah but do you think without the machines they still kept it kept in a variety that every workout felt different
• 38:02
  Yeah, I think so.
• 38:03
  Yeah.
• 38:04
  I mean, we had, yeah, when you think we had rope climbs, we had bar muscle ups, we had, we had all the different ropes, we had swimming, you know, dumbbell, a lot of dumbbells.
• 38:17
  I think it was, it just felt like CrossFit, you know, like CrossFit to me.
• 38:23
  I liked it.
• 38:23
  It was very leg dominant, I think.
• 38:27
  But yeah, on the whole, I thought it was a good competition.
• 38:31
  And my body wasn't wrecked at the end of it or anything like that.
• 38:35
  I thought I'd be a lot surer than I was, but thankfully I wasn't too bad.
• 38:40
  Yeah, as a spectator, I don't think that anything felt repetitive.
• 38:46
  No.
• 38:48
  The workouts were all very different.
• 38:54
  So you get announced as winner, you get to go up on the podium.
• 39:00
  What was that feeling like?
• 39:02
  Yeah, it just felt great.
• 39:04
  It was surreal.
• 39:05
  I just couldn't believe that I had won, to be honest.
• 39:07
  But it was just so nice with the girls that got second and third were so nice as well.
• 39:11
  It was just like such a good group.
• 39:13
  And they were so complimentary as well.
• 39:20
  You know, in a fun way, saying, oh, we'll be following you, we'll be, you know...
• 39:25
  you make sure we can catch up with you and stuff like that.
• 39:27
  It just felt really good.
• 39:28
  I just, I was so pleased.
• 39:30
  I travelled so far.
• 39:31
  I didn't expect to do that well because my coach has said, what are your expectations?
• 39:36
  I said, well, top eight.
• 39:38
  I would like top eight.
• 39:39
  That would be great.
• 39:40
  Just knowing the build up being on holiday and whatever, I would never have expected to have gotten first.
• 39:45
  So when I got first, it was just so good.
• 39:47
  It's such a good feeling.
• 39:49
  I was happy.
• 39:51
  What kind of confidence does that give you now going into the 2024 season?
• 39:57
  It's given me a bit more confidence because I tend to not be the most confident.
• 40:07
  When it comes to my abilities, it's what, you know, I always think, oh gosh, everybody's better than me.
• 40:13
  I'm not a gymnast.
• 40:14
  I'm not a specialist in anything, but I can usually muddle my way through.
• 40:18
  But I think it just gave me confidence that I can compete when I have to compete.
• 40:23
  Because I train on my own all the time, like I'm always training on my own.
• 40:29
  So sometimes it's really difficult to know where you're at until you're actually in a competition.
• 40:34
  And because I don't compete very often,
• 40:37
  you really don't know where you're at compared to your other people in your age group.
• 40:41
  So it was really nice to know that I could actually do that.
• 40:44
  I could compete.
• 40:45
  And yeah, I know that there's holes here and there, but I know that I can work on them.
• 40:51
  I'm always up for a challenge.
• 40:52
  So it's given me more confidence for sure that I can compete with the best.
• 41:03
  Where does that set your sights for the CrossFit Games in 2024?
• 41:10
  Well realistically I don't know because I do know you've got to be realistic you know there's people coming up from the 55 to 59 and they're you know they've been doing cross they've been the games regularly year after year so you know that they're
• 41:25
  like Laurie, I can never pronounce Laurie's second name, but she's won numerous times.
• 41:31
  Betsy wasn't at Legends, but she was second at the Games last year.
• 41:36
  All these people.
• 41:37
  I would like to think I could maybe get top eight.
• 41:40
  I'm saying top eight.
• 41:41
  I would like to aim for that.
• 41:43
  I think that would be realistic for me with my ability, you know, my gymnastics and things like that.
• 41:52
  I would like to think I can maybe get top eight in games that I qualify.
• 41:56
  I think that's been realistic with all the other people I know that are going to be at the games that were at the Legends.
• 42:03
  We'll see.
• 42:04
  We'll see.
• 42:05
  I'm going to work hard anyway.
• 42:07
  So just to be clear, you're saying top 10?
• 42:11
  Yeah, top 10.
• 42:13
  Okay, yeah, top 10.
• 42:14
  I would like to be top 10.
• 42:16
  I think that should be achievable for me.
• 42:18
  Okay.
• 42:19
  I just wanted to be clear because we never know what the heat sizes are going to be at these events.
• 42:24
  Right.
• 42:25
  And right.
• 42:28
  And so, um,
• 42:31
  top half because you're 20 go in your age group seemed to like what you were saying so if you split that into two heats yeah yeah and the first heat i'd like to be the first heat so the second heat is it the second heat they always go yeah um yeah so i would like to think if my training goes to plan um and i can fill these little gaps um then and work them just work on everything make my strength stronger
• 42:59
  um yeah i'd like to think that i could get there and i could make the top ten we'll see
• 43:06
  So what does this community mean to you?
• 43:09
  You travel all the way from Scotland to Tempe, Arizona, and you hang out with these like-minded individuals in your division.
• 43:20
  How good are friends and how quickly do you become friends with that group?
• 43:26
  So quickly because you don't know.
• 43:28
  I didn't know.
• 43:29
  I don't think I've met any of them before.
• 43:32
  Yeah.
• 43:34
  Well, maybe one Karen Smith, I think she was at the games when I was there.
• 43:38
  So I didn't know any of them.
• 43:39
  There's a lot of new names that I didn't know.
• 43:42
  And we just so quickly just all got on really well.
• 43:48
  It was great.
• 43:48
  Some of them are just such good fun, like funny people, you know, and just like people who can't say, oh, are you Lynn?
• 43:55
  And it was just great because it is kind of nerve wracking going, you're coming from like
• 44:03
  Scotland to America not competing very often and then you're in amongst all these people you don't know but it's just so quickly you just all become so friendly and I'm hoping that I'll see some of them in the games you know I'm sure I will see some of the games you know if I get there
• 44:22
  and injury free.
• 44:24
  And it'd be nice to see them again.
• 44:26
  So you can you kind of the thing we used to follow them and start following them on Instagram or whatever.
• 44:30
  So it's, I think it's great.
• 44:31
  They're so friendly, down to earth people.
• 44:37
  Yeah.
• 44:37
  And does it make you become more active on Instagram now that you've met these people?
• 44:43
  I'm terrible.
• 44:44
  I'm not very active.
• 44:45
  You know, it's so funny.
• 44:47
  My friends, my friend Lynn, she's called Lynn as well.
• 44:50
  I've known Lynn for years.
• 44:51
  And she came along and she did all the posts.
• 44:54
  Every night we got to bed, she would have a wee glass of wine because I was being very good.
• 44:58
  I was having my ginger beer.
• 45:00
  And she would make a post so that people at my gym saw the friends and she would put that on Facebook and Instagram.
• 45:08
  So it was her that was doing all the posts because she knows I'm terrible.
• 45:11
  I'm actually terrible at that.
• 45:12
  Now and again, I'll post things.
• 45:14
  I'm just not very active.
• 45:18
  But my flame does it for me.
• 45:20
  But yeah, it's made me sort of follow more people and see how their training is going and what have you.
• 45:30
  But I'm not the best at the social media.
• 45:34
  If anybody knows, it's a guy trying to find one action shot of Lynn on a competition floor and used for a thumbnail.
• 45:43
  And she's got nothing.
• 45:46
  Oh, no, it's terrible.
• 45:47
  That's what my friend says.
• 45:48
  She says, they'll follow you and you'll go, oh, there's nothing there.
• 45:51
  So she always tags me.
• 45:53
  She'll tag me on Facebook or whatever.
• 45:54
  So I think it appears on mine.
• 45:57
  I know I really should do more.
• 45:58
  I do apologize if you're looking for something because when I get asked to send a picture,
• 46:04
  I said I don't have any action photos, but I know I really should.
• 46:08
  I should learn.
• 46:11
  Yeah, I usually have my camera with me, and the goal is to beef up my folder full of pictures so that when I interview people, I have some of my own.
• 46:21
  But this was such a big competition to get around, and I didn't know everybody at this point to know who was going to be successful and who wasn't.
• 46:33
  But it was delightful getting to watch you and watch you win.
• 46:39
  I would be remiss to not bring this up since it's hitting the news pretty heavily here in the States.
• 46:45
  And that is the email that went out to the podium winners from organizers about not having prize money this year at legends.
• 46:59
  I want to open the floor.
• 47:00
  If you have a comment about that, if you don't, I totally understand because I have a lot about this and I'm going to say it tonight on my own.
• 47:09
  Yeah.
• 47:09
  Well, I, I had no expectations of prize money.
• 47:12
  Like you see, I like, I don't compete very often.
• 47:15
  I don't think that my, I only thought the games paid out.
• 47:18
  I was actually, and I'm just going to sort of rewind a wee bit, but when I did the masters, the British masters at Southampton, we all got, which totally surprised me.
• 47:30
  We all got 200 pounds.
• 47:32
  I don't know what that is in dollars, but we all got given,
• 47:37
  a cheque, not a cheque, but we got that put into our bank.
• 47:41
  Absolutely surprised me because I wasn't expecting that.
• 47:44
  And I didn't.
• 47:45
  And I actually emailed Joe back saying I had no expectations of getting prize money.
• 47:51
  I didn't expect to get it because they have never said that there was prize money.
• 47:56
  So I didn't really expect it.
• 47:57
  But see, I don't compete very often, so I don't know what the expectations are of the other people that maybe do compete more.
• 48:06
  I was happy with my medal and my shorts and my tops that I got.
• 48:10
  Money, would it be nice?
• 48:11
  Yeah, that would have been nice, but I wasn't expecting it.
• 48:14
  So I don't know where others, where other people that compete a lot, were they expecting money?
• 48:22
  So the majority of the people that I've talked to have competed at this event before.
• 48:26
  Okay, right, okay.
• 48:28
  So in the past, there was prize money.
• 48:31
  So that expectation was set.
• 48:33
  And without anything contradicting that, before a month after the event.
• 48:40
  But I'll have a lot more to say about that tonight on my own show.
• 48:46
  I wanted to give you the opportunity to say anything if you wanted.
• 48:49
  And thank you for sharing your thoughts.
• 48:51
  Yeah, no, no problem.
• 48:53
  Um, yeah, I know there'll be different views on that, but I've seen, I didn't expect to get money in the first place.
• 48:58
  So I wasn't disappointed.
• 49:00
  I didn't appreciate that they had money in previous years.
• 49:03
  So, um, yeah.
• 49:06
  However, I was happy I got my medal and my swag.
• 49:10
  And you got a ton of confidence going into next season.
• 49:12
  Definitely, yeah.
• 49:14
  So it was worth it.
• 49:14
  The trip was worth it.
• 49:15
  It cost me a lot of money to get there.
• 49:18
  It was worth it.
• 49:19
  We had such good fun.
• 49:21
  It was like a wee holiday, a wee vacation for me and my friend as well.
• 49:24
  So that was a bonus.
• 49:26
  Well, Lynn, I want to thank you so much for taking some time out to share your story with me.
• 49:32
  I would just want to highlight you guys so much.
• 49:35
  When I'm at a Masters event, I feel like I'm with my people.
• 49:40
  Yeah.
• 49:41
  I mean, I'm 54, so I'm in that Masters group too.
• 49:44
  You're in that, yeah.
• 49:46
  So it's just, I always have a blast when I'm hanging out with the Masters.
• 49:50
  Yeah.
• 49:51
  No, it's good fun.
• 49:52
  I appreciate you asking me to come on.
• 49:55
  With that, everybody, thank you so much for being with us.
• 49:58
  And we'll catch everybody next time on the Clydesdale Media Podcast.
• 50:03
  Bye, guys.
• 50:03
  Thank you.
• 50:04
  Thank you.