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Susan Slusser's SF Giants report & Sacramento A's prediction · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: It's nice for what it is. They've done as well
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  Speaker 1: as they can, but visiting players are kind of like,
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  Speaker 1: why are we playing in a minor league stadium? Like,
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  Speaker 1: why aren't they in Oakland?
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  Speaker 2: San Francisco Chronicle Senior Baseball beat reporter Susan Slester back
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  Speaker 2: on the show that's on Foul Territory season. Great to
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  Speaker 2: see you and fun to cover a Giants team that
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  Speaker 2: is very relevant right now. So how are things looking?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're interesting. They're very interesting there. They look
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  Speaker 1: like they're decent. You guys know, they're in the probably
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  Speaker 1: the toughest division in baseball, so they're going to be
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  Speaker 1: lucky to sneak into a wild card spot, but they
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  Speaker 1: would take it after several years of missing out on
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs. They look like they've got some interesting strengths
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  Speaker 1: and some pretty glaring weaknesses. So they'll get better, I think,
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  Speaker 1: because they do have some injuries that could help when
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  Speaker 1: when they get somebody like Gerar and Carnacione back. But
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  Speaker 1: the Buster Posey era we've talked about this before, is
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  Speaker 1: just going to be kind of NonStop a story. You know, good, bad,
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  Speaker 1: are indifferent, and so far it's good.
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  Speaker 3: Let's not go to the negative things first, but let's
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  Speaker 3: take a positive and spin it negatively. They have the strengths,
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  Speaker 3: they have these strengths. What are these strengths that they
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  Speaker 3: already have. Do you feel like are going to kind
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  Speaker 3: of level out, like maybe playing to the peak of
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  Speaker 3: their positivity.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the one thing that probably will come down certainly
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  Speaker 1: some is the bullpen has been incredible. They've had one
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  Speaker 1: blown save that's resulted in a loss this year. They've
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  Speaker 1: had four blown saves, they won three of those. That
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  Speaker 1: was just Sunday that they are eleven in one when
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  Speaker 1: leading after six, seven and eight innings. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 1: those numbers will come back a little bit to earth.
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  Speaker 1: But this is a team that's built on pitching and defense,
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  Speaker 1: and when those things are consistent, I don't see much
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  Speaker 1: of change there. Maybe with the pitching, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: starting pitching still has room to get better, for sure,
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  Speaker 1: but the book pen's been terrific. And the defense, I
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  Speaker 1: think the defense, barring injury, should be really solid all season.
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  Speaker 1: And that is a great fundamental kind of thing to
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  Speaker 1: have for your core strength.
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  Speaker 4: Oh it's Buster Posey. He's a former player. He actually
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  Speaker 4: looks at things and it's like, oh, man, does these
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  Speaker 4: fundamental things matter? It helps you win games. It's not
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  Speaker 4: fantasy baseball. Yeah, it's weird how that works. But a
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  Speaker 4: guy there counting on and I put him as one
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  Speaker 4: of my superheroes. Yesterday we did a Superheroes and Villains. Susan.
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  Speaker 4: I know you're into the Marvel and DC universe big time,
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  Speaker 4: so I said Jung. She's like, what's Marvel? Jung Hulee
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  Speaker 4: is off to an unbelievable start. Is this the player
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  Speaker 4: they thought he was going to be when they signed
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  Speaker 4: him last year? I know he was injured and missed
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  Speaker 4: most of the year, but is this the guy? And
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  Speaker 4: can he keep it up? Because he's got a nine
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  Speaker 4: to forty ops? Can he keep this up? With the
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  Speaker 4: great defense in the oftfield?
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  Speaker 1: I honestly aja, he could get better. He's just learning
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  Speaker 1: the league. He's still facing mostly pitchers he's never seen before.
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  Speaker 1: He only played in thirty seven games last year before
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  Speaker 1: he got hurt. The question was would the skills from
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  Speaker 1: Korea translate here? And the Giants thought, all along, great
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  Speaker 1: contact guy, great back to ball skills. Somewhat repinniss that
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  Speaker 1: I'm always hesitant to say this, but reminiscent of Vitro.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you guys have seen the swing. You guys
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  Speaker 1: have seen how he runs. He sort of an apt comparison,
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  Speaker 1: and that was his favorite player, idolized and modeled himself
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  Speaker 1: on each Ro. But I think he only gets better
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  Speaker 1: as he learns the league. He obviously can make adjustments.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he was not quite this player last year
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  Speaker 1: before he got hurt. The biggest thing to me is
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  Speaker 1: he got hurt slamming into a wall last year. He
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  Speaker 1: is showing no fear defensively either, and he's made some
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  Speaker 1: great plays up against the wall diving. He's really pretty
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  Speaker 1: close to a five tool player. He's even got some pop.
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  Speaker 4: Look at that those count though there in Yankee Stadium?
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  Speaker 4: Do those count? Scott's Park factors in and if you
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  Speaker 4: hit him in certain parks they don't count. So do
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  Speaker 4: those really count.
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  Speaker 1: As Homer's I suspect they count because especially because it's
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  Speaker 1: going to even out with Oracle Park, which is going
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  Speaker 1: to take a lot away. So that's the beauty of baseball.
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  Speaker 1: All evens out eventually, you hope. But yeah, he makes
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  Speaker 1: a name for himself at Yankee Stadium. That's that shows
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  Speaker 1: you something too. That's a little bit. He's got some flare.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's got a little bit of a K
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  Speaker 1: pop look going on, big smile, big personality. He could
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  Speaker 1: be sort of a star at some point.
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  Speaker 3: I think people are forgetting they're paying him one hundred
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  Speaker 3: million dollars too, so they kind of need him to
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  Speaker 3: kind of need him to go out there and produce
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  Speaker 3: the way he's producing. But a guy they're not paying
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  Speaker 3: one hundred million dollars Wilmer Flores. I get it, his
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  Speaker 3: numbers aren't there, but he's a guy coming off the bench.
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  Speaker 3: He's a guy that plays his role. We were talking
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  Speaker 3: about how clutch he is. Is there any way a
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  Speaker 3: team like the Giants, Let's ay, clutch player like Wilmer Flores,
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  Speaker 3: who essentially only hits go ahead or game time home
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  Speaker 3: runs when he hits homers.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's interesting because if he hadn't had
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  Speaker 1: a player option for this year, I'm not sure he
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  Speaker 1: would have been back. But he's been such a steady
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  Speaker 1: presence for the Giants since he's been there. He's really
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  Speaker 1: quietly a team leader. You know, he is not a
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  Speaker 1: big personality guy, but he's just got this effortless cool
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  Speaker 1: that everybody kind of looks up to him, respects him.
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  Speaker 1: The Latin guys love him, and he produces. He drives
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  Speaker 1: in runs. He's probably not going to be a three
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  Speaker 1: hundred hitter. He's not going to be a gold Glove
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  Speaker 1: first baseman. But he can hit in big situations. He
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  Speaker 1: can come off the bench, he can d eighth. She
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  Speaker 1: can do all those things that are much more difficult
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  Speaker 1: for a younger player to do. And that's probably what
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  Speaker 1: they would have been looking at had they, you know,
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  Speaker 1: had the option to let him go. He's really been
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  Speaker 1: you know, last year he did not have the good
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  Speaker 1: numbers because he was hurt. Now we see what a
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  Speaker 1: health the Wilmer Flores can do. And I actually think
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  Speaker 1: that the numbers will probably I know, I sound like
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  Speaker 1: super optimistic about everybody, but he's hit a lot of
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  Speaker 1: balls hard and he's had some bad luck. I think
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  Speaker 1: the numbers actually are a little bit lower than where
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  Speaker 1: they should be.
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  Speaker 4: Another Buster posey thing. Oh, veterans off the bench, those
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  Speaker 4: matter too. It's weird. It's weird too, it's weird. Hell
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  Speaker 4: sometimes well he was.
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  Speaker 1: He was also there under far but.
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  Speaker 4: I know, I know, but we'll give Buster credit, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: he signed will Listen. He signed Willia Domas. He was
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  Speaker 4: supposed to be kind of their big signing this year.
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  Speaker 4: He hasn't gotten off to his start. Now I watch
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  Speaker 4: some of the Giants games, he's still smile and he's
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  Speaker 4: still laughing. He's still right engage with his teammates. What
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  Speaker 4: will it take to get Willie's going? They have to
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  Speaker 4: give him a standing ovation like the Philly fans did
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  Speaker 4: to Trey Turner and mean, what's it going to take
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  Speaker 4: for Willy to get going here?
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  Speaker 1: I think he's still in that I'm with the new team.
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  Speaker 1: I signed a big contract, like even subconsciously trying to
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  Speaker 1: do too much that you've been through at AJ Lots
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  Speaker 1: of guys when they go to new teams, particularly when
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  Speaker 1: it's a high.
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  Speaker 4: The Giant, particularly the Giant.
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  Speaker 1: It does tend to happen with the Giants. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why. The very Zeo was the best example all
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  Speaker 1: the time of that. He goes from the A's where
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  Speaker 1: he'd want to cy you on to the Giants and
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  Speaker 1: he changed everything. He changed his mechanics and the Giants
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  Speaker 1: were like, wait, what did you do? And he's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I have to be better and they
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  Speaker 1: were like, no, no, no, no, no, we signed the guy.
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  Speaker 1: You were the guy we wanted. Why are you changing stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything to that level, but I
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  Speaker 1: think it's subconscious. I think you're trying to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: prove that you were worth that deal. You're trying to
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  Speaker 1: impress a new fan base. You're trying to show your
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  Speaker 1: new teammates what kind of player you are. And I
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  Speaker 1: do think that that plays a little bit of role.
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  Speaker 1: But you're right, he's been. The personality is off the
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  Speaker 1: charts great, like has advertised, maybe even better. He's a
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  Speaker 1: plus no matter what he's doing, he's and he's solid
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  Speaker 1: in the field. He works well with Chapman. Chapman loves
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  Speaker 1: Zim and Chapman's, you know, pretty much the main team leader.
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  Speaker 1: So it's it's all good. And I you know, at
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  Speaker 1: some point, stop me if you heard me say this
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  Speaker 1: like four or five times already, some point he is
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  Speaker 1: going to get going. I mean, he's Willie at Domis.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's worried about him at all.
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  Speaker 4: Who's the unsung hero on this team?
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  Speaker 1: Though?
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  Speaker 3: Who's the guy that we don't know if we're not
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  Speaker 3: watching all the Giants games that we should be looking at.
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  Speaker 1: Hayden Birds song for me who was in contention for
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  Speaker 1: the fifth starter spot, could have won it. Had a
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  Speaker 1: great spring. Land and Roope also had a great spring.
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  Speaker 1: That was a kind of a toss up. Landon Rupe
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  Speaker 1: go gets a fifth spot. He's been very good. Hayden
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  Speaker 1: bird Song goes to the bullpen and has been phenomenal.
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  Speaker 1: They've used him for three inning, says, They've used him
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  Speaker 1: for an inning. He has been lights out almost every
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  Speaker 1: single time out. You know, just a very little big
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  Speaker 1: league experience and completely unfaired. And if they needed him
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  Speaker 1: in the rotation, he I think he would PLoP right
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  Speaker 1: in and be just as terrific. So keep an eye
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  Speaker 1: on that. If there's continued under performance in other spots
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  Speaker 1: or an injury, Hayden bird Sock's probably right in there.
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  Speaker 2: Question from Cole in our chat, when do you think
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Harrison will be up?
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  Speaker 1: I think Kyle really needs to put in at least
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  Speaker 1: a good strong half a season in Sacramento. He was
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  Speaker 1: just so off even last year. This spring he was not.
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  Speaker 1: You know, guys like birds Song and Rupe have moved
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  Speaker 1: ahead of him on the Giants radar. Carson Seymour, Carson
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  Speaker 1: wizen Hunt might be trending right around near Kyle Harrison.
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  Speaker 4: It's not a.
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  Speaker 1: Gimme that he will be back up this year. He's
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  Speaker 1: got so much talent, you know, and he's a local kid.
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  Speaker 1: When he's right, he is a legit big league pitcher.
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  Speaker 1: He just hasn't been quite right, so he needs to
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  Speaker 1: figure it out. The Giants certainly are rooting for They
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  Speaker 1: believe in him. I think we will see him at
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  Speaker 1: some point, but it's definitely not a given.
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  Speaker 4: Wait. I thought he pitched for the Giants, not the A's.
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  Speaker 4: Why is he in Sacramento? Oh wait, that's right here?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I see what.
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  Speaker 4: What are the reviews? I want to know, what are
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  Speaker 4: the reviews on Sacramento. You're in the Bayish area. Sacramento
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  Speaker 4: is not in the Bay Area, but it's a you
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  Speaker 4: know what, what are the what?
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  Speaker 1: I was there for the opening series. Yeah, it's a
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  Speaker 1: very nice minor league stadium. Yeah, they made some nice improvements,
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  Speaker 1: but ye know, holds fourteen thousand, and Yeah, they're they're
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  Speaker 1: drying about what they were in Oakland. Maybe a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more, but the attendance is down from that first
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  Speaker 1: game against the Cubs. Uh, Sacramento was sort of pitching
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  Speaker 1: this as we're going to show we deserve an expansion
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  Speaker 1: team at some point, and I'm they're really not doing
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  Speaker 1: that to date, and it has it hasn't even gotten
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  Speaker 1: hot up there. You guys know, it goes over one
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  Speaker 1: hundred pretty routinely during the summer, So uh scent might
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  Speaker 1: be blowing an expansion chance here. You know, it's nice,
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  Speaker 1: it's nice for what it is. They've done as well
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  Speaker 1: as they can, but visiting players are kind of like,
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  Speaker 1: why are we playing in a minor league stadium? Like
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  Speaker 1: why aren't they in Oakland? Complicated questions to do with politics,
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  Speaker 1: mostly the city of Oakland really dropped the ball on that,
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  Speaker 1: but it's got new leadership. I think Major League Baseball
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  Speaker 1: might want to investigate going back to Oakland with a
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  Speaker 1: new with a new mayor in charge and see if
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  Speaker 1: they can get something done there, because this isn't just
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  Speaker 1: who knows what the fans do there, probably don't come
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  Speaker 1: out in full force, but this is just not a
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  Speaker 1: big league situation. There's already a team playing in a
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  Speaker 1: minor league ballpark through you know, not through choice. This
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  Speaker 1: is through choice, which to me is just a little nutty.
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  Speaker 2: Is there any indication that a conversation could open up again.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not dialed in on the political scene
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  Speaker 2: out there. Has there been any public Q and a
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  Speaker 2: where the new mayor It's like, yeah, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: No, there's a lot of other things. I think that
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  Speaker 1: Oakley needs to get sorted out. I think this would
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  Speaker 1: have to come from MLB or the A's or something.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, there's no rumbling of that, but I
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  Speaker 1: will tell you people from other teams, scouts, executives all
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  Speaker 1: kind of wonder what are we doing here? So you know,
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  Speaker 1: keep an eye on it. The really interesting situation, as
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  Speaker 1: you guys were just alluding to, like with Jacob Wilson,
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Soderstrom. Now they've called it Nick Kurts. The A's
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  Speaker 1: are interesting. They're not a bad team, they're in a
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  Speaker 1: not great division. What happens if they're in a playoff scenario?
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  Speaker 1: They can't play in a fourteen thousand seat stadium, So
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  Speaker 1: where do they go? Then back to the Coliseum Oracle Park,
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  Speaker 1: Like there aren't a ton of options where the Sacramento
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  Speaker 1: fans could still go see them. And I can't see
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  Speaker 1: the union or the owners saying, yeah, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: give up a lot of playoff revenues so you can
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  Speaker 1: keep playing in this minor league stadium.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, go a's, go a's. I want to see it.
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  Speaker 4: I want to see this, Susan. I'm in San Francisco
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  Speaker 4: this weekend. Are you going to say hi to me?
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  Speaker 4: That's all? Really I want to know.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see how the rest of this interview goes.
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  Speaker 4: AJ But we're done. So this is it.
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  Speaker 2: This is it.
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  Speaker 4: We'll forget it. Nope, Okay, exactly what I expected to.
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  Speaker 1: I love to seeing. We've got a long history.
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  Speaker 4: We did. We have a very long interesting history. Good
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  Speaker 4: for me, bad from what do you want me to say?
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  Speaker 4: She wrote bad things about me in that Green Paper
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  Speaker 4: she used to write for what I'm just kidding was
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  Speaker 4: always Susan was always fair.
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  Speaker 1: I still write for the Green Paper. I just don't
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  Speaker 1: write anything bad about you anymore.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, anymore.
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  Speaker 2: It's a different performance. Now it's on your show.
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  Speaker 3: I've told her.
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  Speaker 4: Many times I appreciate it. She was always fair to me.
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  Speaker 4: She wrote something, she would come ask me about it,
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  Speaker 4: and before she would write, that's all I ever asked.
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  Speaker 4: If you're going to write something about me, give me
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  Speaker 4: a chance to respond. I'll give you my sight of it.
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  Speaker 4: And if you want to write a bad article about me,
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  Speaker 4: go ahead, fine, but at least give me a chance.
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  Speaker 1: It was fun you and those A's teams, the Hudson
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  Speaker 1: Mulders A's teams. Did you had some interesting battles?
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  Speaker 4: That's yes, we did, and we ended Moneyball season. So
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  Speaker 4: I need a movie, thank you?
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  Speaker 1: That would be kind of fun. Actually i'd watched that.
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  Speaker 4: Listen if they made a movie about me, and a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people would be very unhappy.
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  Speaker 2: So they're going to make a sequel one day because
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  Speaker 2: they're going to be like they never won anything and
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: they have the biggest disaster, travel whatever you want to
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: call this whole business ordeal over the last few years situation.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: So it was not all Roses. All the people that
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  Speaker 2: followed that us and you can.
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  Speaker 4: Buy me garlic fries this weekend. How's that on Saturday?
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  Speaker 1: I think the other way around.
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  Speaker 2: I agree, I agree, yeah, yeah. I checked both both
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  Speaker 2: baseball reference pages for salaries, and I feel like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: ja's got your back.
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  Speaker 1: Francisco Chronicle listed there.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, it was, it was not listed, and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, wow, that could be really good or maybe
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  Speaker 2: not so much, but anyway, have fun.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get the.
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  Speaker 2: Report from AJ after you see you this weekend. But
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  Speaker 2: thanks for stopping by.
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  Speaker 1: Fantastic things guys.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, we're only four weeks into the
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  Speaker 2: season and already, like Susan said, and she knows a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people. She's talking to everybody in the business,
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  Speaker 2: and they're like, yeah, maybe they should call them mayor.
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  Speaker 4: That's amazing what she just said. By the way, it
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  Speaker 4: is that is amazing what she just said. That they
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  Speaker 4: should go cras When do you think about that? They're like,
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  Speaker 4: maybe we should go back to Oakland after all the
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: negative stuff that they threw out there Sacramento.
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  Speaker 3: At No that I don't know. I don't I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if they won't or not. I mean, this isn't
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  Speaker 3: really Sacramento's baby. John Fisher's John Fisher's doing all this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to but I'm not saying
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  Speaker 3: they've yet.
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  Speaker 2: They've they made a mistake by doing business with the devil,
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  Speaker 2: and this is definitely going to hurt them because they're
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  Speaker 2: going to look at these numbers and be like, we
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  Speaker 2: didn't get much of a turnout here, why would you
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  Speaker 2: be in the running?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: It's one of those things where it's like it could
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  Speaker 2: help you or it could hurt.
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  Speaker 4: But they also didn't brand with Sacramento. That was one
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  Speaker 4: of the things the fans are complaining about. They never
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  Speaker 4: use the name. Why would you not say we're the
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  Speaker 4: Sacramento A's for a couple of years yep, and try
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  Speaker 4: to get the hometown behind you. Instead, they're like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: we're just the A's. We're just we don't want to
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  Speaker 4: talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: Let me give everyone a little advice from someone who
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  Speaker 2: knows the league pretty well. Number One, they will use
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  Speaker 2: these numbers against you, hardcore. Number Two, when they're looking
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  Speaker 2: at teams on the west portion of the country because
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: they want to do one east, one west, they are
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  Speaker 2: most likely not looking in California. They have a lot
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: of teams there. They want as much money from the
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: public as possible. California is going to battle them on
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: something like that. It's a fact, right there are other
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  Speaker 2: states that are starving for a team or that are
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  Speaker 2: going to play ball with them on giving them a
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  Speaker 2: lot of money. That's a fact. That's just how the
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: business of it works. The number one thing that they
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: look at when they're evaluating teams for an expansion franchise
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: is what is it? Number one thing?
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: Oh TV shirt?
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  Speaker 2: No higher than that, that's that's up there, but higher
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  Speaker 2: than that. Public money. Number one, of course is public money.
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  Speaker 2: There is a number one factor. They start there and
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  Speaker 2: then they start working their way down.
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  Speaker 3: It's a fact.
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  Speaker 2: I actually spoke to someone very in the know on
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  Speaker 2: this stuff six months ago about it. They said they
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: gave me like a checklist of maybe five things, actually
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: wrote it down. So but that was number one. So
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  Speaker 2: that's the number one thing public money. I think two
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: was real estate. Then we start getting into market size
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: and all that. So just keep that in mind. It's
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: abyss and we are the ones.
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  Speaker 4: To tell you that you also get one shot and
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  Speaker 4: one opportunity. And Sacramento is they should have told yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Spaghetti