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I FORGAVE my cheating husband… then he did it again! -r/relationships | Reddit Stories | EP3089 · ok storytime

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Riley.
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  Speaker 2: And this is Keon, your favorite OK Storytime host. And
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  Speaker 2: we've got some great stories coming up.
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  Speaker 1: But before we get to that, we have a quick
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  Speaker 1: two minute break from the sponsors that keep the show alive.
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  Speaker 3: I forgave my cheating husband and then he did it again.
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  Speaker 1: Fool me once.
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  Speaker 3: My husband and I have been together almost eight years,
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  Speaker 3: married for two and a half of those eight years.
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  Speaker 1: We were happy for one.
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  Speaker 3: Last May 2019, we separated seemingly overnight. He left me
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  Speaker 3: and our toddler and moved back to his hometown. There
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  Speaker 3: was never a solid reason given, just that he felt
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  Speaker 3: we should never have gotten married.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, overnight.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, cool.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's kind of in and of itself a
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  Speaker 3: solid reason. If someone feels that, hey, okay, whatever. I
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  Speaker 3: don't care why you think that. We're done, right?
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  Speaker 1: You think that's a solid reason after being married?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, for someone to say that to you, like,
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  Speaker 3: is a solid reason to go, oh, it doesn't even
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  Speaker 3: matter why you think that. If he would ever say
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  Speaker 3: that to me, I don't think we should be married. Right?
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  Speaker 3: I disagree. In July, he changed his tune and wanted
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  Speaker 3: to be a family again. Oh. He was still at
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  Speaker 3: his job in his hometown, so I decided I would
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  Speaker 3: write it out at my job in a different city
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  Speaker 3: for a couple of months to build my resume, and
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  Speaker 3: then start looking for other jobs in his hometown. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: remember that thing he said to you? I wouldn't have
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  Speaker 3: forgotten that.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, but remember that new thing he said to her?
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  Speaker 1: He's ready now.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, all I hear is the first thing you said.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes the last thing you hear is what's... brightest in
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  Speaker 1: your mind.
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  Speaker 3: And he's going, move to me? What are we talking about?
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  Speaker 3: You're supposed to be the one coming back to me
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  Speaker 3: making a grand gesture. You want me to move to you?
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  Speaker 3: After six months of a brutal commute, taking care of
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  Speaker 3: our child during the week by myself and driving to
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  Speaker 3: his hometown every weekend, interviewing, basically bending over backwards. I
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  Speaker 3: finally landed a great job in December. A week before
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  Speaker 3: I was to move into the new house we were
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  Speaker 3: buying together and start my new job, I found out
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  Speaker 3: he had been having an affair.
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 1: That's not fun.
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  Speaker 3: But what if he told you it didn't mean anything,
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  Speaker 3: would you believe him? He begged and pleaded for me
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  Speaker 3: to stay with him, said he'd break off all contact,
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  Speaker 3: and I foolishly agreed to give him another chance. Two
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  Speaker 3: days later, while I was back in the different city
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  Speaker 3: and completing my last week of work at my old job,
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  Speaker 3: he unblocked her on everything. and liked her pictures on Instagram.
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  Speaker 3: I was devastated. By the way, this comes from a
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  Speaker 3: throwaway account. If you want to submit your own stories,
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  Speaker 3: go to the r slash okstorytime subreddit. I am Dakota.
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  Speaker 1: I am Riley.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to read this story of this poor, poor
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  Speaker 3: soul who decided to give their cheating partner another chance.
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  Speaker 3: And we're going to have our thoughts. You get to
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  Speaker 3: have your own. You can put them in the comments
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  Speaker 3: where we can read them. And I will give you
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  Speaker 3: a kiss digitally.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: On top of that, he booted me out of the
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  Speaker 3: house we were supposed to move in together to. And
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  Speaker 3: I had to find a new place to live two
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  Speaker 3: days before starting my new job. That also you got
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  Speaker 3: for this situation.
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  Speaker 1: What's happening with the kid? I want to know that.
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  Speaker 3: We have lived separately ever since. He has said and
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  Speaker 3: done so many hateful things in this time period and
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  Speaker 3: said so many times that he wants a divorce that
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  Speaker 3: I have lost count. Up until a month ago, he
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  Speaker 3: was still maintaining contact with his affair partner. I saw
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  Speaker 3: her car at his house, took pictures for the lawyers, etc.
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  Speaker 3: And he admitted he had been talking with her still.
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  Speaker 4: Oh. Okay, evidence.
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  Speaker 3: Gotta love this guy digging his own grave. I stopped
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  Speaker 3: doing the whole pick-me dance about a month ago and
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  Speaker 3: stopped reaching out to him at all besides contact about
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  Speaker 3: our child. Now, he has suddenly changed his tune and
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  Speaker 3: is desperate to get me back and will do anything.
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  Speaker 3: He has unfollowed her on anything, unliked all her pictures,
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  Speaker 3: tells me not to give up on our family. And
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  Speaker 3: what would you say to that, Riley?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I believe you. I think I know you.
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  Speaker 1: You'll do better this time. Oh, Riley.
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  Speaker 3: You've never given.
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  Speaker 1: Me a reason not to think that.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, Riley.
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  Speaker 1: What? He wants it now.
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  Speaker 3: I would genuinely be like, I don't know who you're
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  Speaker 3: even talking to. Are you talking to me?
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  Speaker 1: My skin is transparent.
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  Speaker 3: I know you couldn't be talking to me.
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  Speaker 1: Talking to me? Me not give up on our family?
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  Speaker 3: Me?
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  Speaker 1: I'm the one who can't give up on the family?
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  Speaker 3: Interesting. I moved on. I am not interested in pursuing
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  Speaker 3: another relationship with him. He has hurt me deeply, and
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I have been effed over by him
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  Speaker 3: so many times that I have lost count. How can
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  Speaker 3: I tell him there isn't a chance without sounding like
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  Speaker 3: a completely heartless person? Why is that your concern?
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  Speaker 1: OP is a CPP if we have not picked up
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  Speaker 1: on that yet.
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  Speaker 3: You tell him you gave up on our family.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have a reason to be heartless. How many
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  Speaker 1: times is he going to rip your heart out of
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  Speaker 1: your chest and step on it? How many times are
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  Speaker 1: you going to let him do it?
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  Speaker 3: I still want to be able to maintain a strong
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  Speaker 3: co-parenting relationship with him, so I am friendly to him.
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  Speaker 3: But he seems to take that as me wanting him back.
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  Speaker 3: I have relayed to him my feelings, but they fall
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  Speaker 3: on deaf ears. He says he will never stop trying
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  Speaker 3: to get our family back together and does not want
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  Speaker 3: a divorce. I do. Does anyone have any advice? And
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  Speaker 3: there is a small edit to add just to show
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  Speaker 3: what kind of person he is. When I asked him
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  Speaker 3: about the reason for his sudden change of heart, he
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  Speaker 3: said it was because I seemed stronger. Ah, the irony.
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  Speaker 3: Edit two, he is being served papers in the next
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  Speaker 3: one to two weeks. I guarantee the I've changed mask
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  Speaker 3: slips off when that happens. I mean, I hope I'm wrong,
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  Speaker 3: but I have learned all too well that my gut
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  Speaker 3: feelings are usually spot on about him. Hopefully I'll be
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  Speaker 3: back with an update in a few months. With the
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  Speaker 3: good news that the split is official, there is a
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  Speaker 3: final update. Well, it turns out my gut instincts were right.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: The entire time he was begging for another chance and
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  Speaker 3: promising this time would be different, rolls eyes. He was
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  Speaker 3: still sleeping with the affair partner and telling her he
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  Speaker 3: loved her and would do anything to make it work
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  Speaker 3: with her. Shocker. It didn't even hurt me to find out.
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  Speaker 3: I was that unsurprised. It just helped me stop feeling guilty.
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  Speaker 3: I divorced his sorry behind. I thank the universe every
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  Speaker 3: day that he is no longer connected to me in
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  Speaker 3: a romantic way. It feels like an enormous weight has
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  Speaker 3: been lifted off my shoulders. Shortly after my original post,
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  Speaker 3: I met someone by chance at a wedding and fell
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  Speaker 3: in love.
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  Speaker 4: Oh. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: This person is everything my ex-husband was not. The kindness,
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  Speaker 3: the compassion, the respect they show me, not just me,
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  Speaker 3: but to my daughter as well, is like something from
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  Speaker 3: a dream.
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  Speaker 1: I never knew love could be so easy. Please don't
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  Speaker 1: fall in love too fast, though. Yeah, give him a
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  Speaker 1: chance to disappoint you a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely don't rush.
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  Speaker 1: Don't rush, don't rush.
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  Speaker 3: Because from the sounds of it, any guy you meet
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  Speaker 3: that is halfway decent, you're going to be like, wow,
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  Speaker 3: oh my God, I can't believe it. This is so great.
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  Speaker 3: This is the greatest guy. No, your husband just really,
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  Speaker 3: really sucked.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not give him a lot of slack, okay? Let's
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  Speaker 1: pump the brakes here.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the end of this story. Let's head to
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  Speaker 2: the next one.
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  Speaker 5: My brother stole my husband's memento, then called it worthless,
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  Speaker 5: then give it back. Tell me if I, 28 female,
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  Speaker 5: am being the a-hole here, because I'm going out of
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  Speaker 5: my mind. My husband, 28 male, and I just bought
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  Speaker 5: a house, and we hosted my family for Thanksgiving. For context,
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  Speaker 5: I'm originally from Illinois, but my husband and I live
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  Speaker 5: in Iowa. My family came on Wednesday and left on Friday,
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  Speaker 5: so no one was driving for over four hours on
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  Speaker 5: Thanksgiving Day. My older brother volunteered to take the couch
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  Speaker 5: in our basement because we only have two guest rooms.
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  Speaker 5: He was the only one who was down there. No
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  Speaker 5: one else went to the basement. I'm guessing that that
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  Speaker 5: is some information we definitely need to know.
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  Speaker 4: No one else was in the basement, okay? It's important
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  Speaker 4: that you know this.
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  Speaker 5: My husband is casually into sports, but he did get
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  Speaker 5: some sports memorabilia from his dad and his oppa. He
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  Speaker 5: has a certificate of ownership for an NFL team.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: His dad bought shares in the team, and if you
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  Speaker 5: do that, you get a certificate in exchange. Dang.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: When my husband went downstairs to put some food in
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  Speaker 5: the freezer on Friday night, the certificate was missing.
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  Speaker 4: Sacre bleu.
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  Speaker 5: The frame was still there, but the certificate wasn't. What?
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  Speaker 4: That's weird. It was the ghost. Hmm.
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  Speaker 5: I asked my brother about it because he was the
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  Speaker 5: only one down there, but he said he didn't do
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  Speaker 5: anything with the certificate and it is worthless anyways.
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  Speaker 4: He's like, that certificate was a pile of poop. You
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  Speaker 4: can't even get any money for it. And he's like,
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  Speaker 4: how do you know that? He's like, I just assume
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  Speaker 4: that it's worthless. I just assume that no one would
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  Speaker 4: take money for it if you took it to a
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  Speaker 4: pawn shop down the road.
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  Speaker 5: My husband can ask the team to mail another certificate.
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  Speaker 5: The certificate isn't sentimental or priceless or anything like that.
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  Speaker 5: But it was bothering us because my brother obviously took it.
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  Speaker 5: No one else was in our basement except for him.
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  Speaker 5: I couldn't understand why he would take it and my
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  Speaker 5: husband is pissed about it. By the way, this comes
• 8:58
  Speaker 5: from burner account 113025. And if you want to submit
• 9:01
  Speaker 5: your own stories, go to the r slash okay story
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  Speaker 5: time subreddit. I'm Savannah. I'm Sophia, and we're here to
• 9:07
  Speaker 5: give some good advice goofily, but we don't have all
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  Speaker 5: the answers. We only tell you what we would do,
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  Speaker 5: but let us know what you would do down in
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  Speaker 5: the comments. As Opie says, I told my brother to
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  Speaker 5: just send it back, and up until yesterday, he said
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  Speaker 5: he didn't do anything. But now he admits he took it,
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  Speaker 5: and he said can't give it back because he destroyed it.
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 4: I destroyed it. I destroyed the ring. What is the
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  Speaker 4: point of this?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: He just wanted money. And then he got mad. He
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  Speaker 4: wanted money. Tried to sell it. Realized he couldn't sell
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  Speaker 4: it because it was worth nothing. And then got mad
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  Speaker 4: and destroyed it.
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  Speaker 5: And then admitted to it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever.
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  Speaker 4: I destroyed it.
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  Speaker 3: Stupid.
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  Speaker 5: Because they can just get another one.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing.
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  Speaker 5: He told me it's worthless anyway. My husband is obviously
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  Speaker 5: mad at my brother. I don't even watch sports and
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  Speaker 5: my husband barely watches. He would never destroy something from
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  Speaker 5: another team though. He doesn't even talk about football or
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  Speaker 5: any sports with my family. I don't know why.
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  Speaker 4: My brother would do that.
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  Speaker 5: My parents and my other brother told me to tell
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  Speaker 5: my husband to let it go because the certificate can
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  Speaker 5: be replaced.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, but that's not the point. The action is weird.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the action of one, lying. Two, taking it. Three,
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  Speaker 5: calling it worthless.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And then for destroying it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like someone breaks my arm and they're like,
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  Speaker 4: it's fine, it'll heal.
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  Speaker 5: Like, just let it go. You can just get a
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  Speaker 5: new arm. My dad said people put too much stock
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  Speaker 5: in having this certificate, but that's not the point. Am
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  Speaker 5: I the a-hole for telling my brother he should apologize
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  Speaker 5: to my husband? I couldn't believe my dad tried to
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  Speaker 5: act like this wasn't a big deal. I'm so embarrassed.
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  Speaker 5: I apologize to my husband because I'm embarrassed, but he
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  Speaker 5: told me it's not my fault. Am I being the
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  Speaker 5: a-hole for being so upset with my brother about a
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  Speaker 5: piece of paperwork and telling him to apologize? My family
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  Speaker 5: says I'm making a mountain out of a molehill and
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  Speaker 5: I would like a gut check. Be truthful. I will
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  Speaker 5: admit if I'm wrong. Yeah, no, you're not wrong. You're
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  Speaker 5: not wrong.
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  Speaker 4: It's weird that everyone's defending this. Yeah, just saying, oh,
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  Speaker 4: that's just little Jimmy does that.
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  Speaker 5: He's just a little scamp, that boy. Yeah, like, no,
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  Speaker 5: he stole from a family member.
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  Speaker 4: Sounds like Jimmy's a little thief.
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  Speaker 6: And then completely just destroyed the evidence.
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  Speaker 4: Like, that's the real bad part.
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  Speaker 5: And he's also, these people were like, I think in
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  Speaker 5: their 30s? Yeah, they're older. It doesn't say how old
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  Speaker 5: the brother is. So it doesn't say how old the
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  Speaker 5: brother is, but both Opie and her husband, are 28
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  Speaker 5: okay so potentially this is like a younger 20 something
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  Speaker 5: or maybe even minor kid i mean hopefully it's not
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  Speaker 5: older because that's embarrassing i mean it's embarrassing either way
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  Speaker 5: but still there is an update some things i wanted
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  Speaker 5: to clarify my father-in-law got the certificate in 2022 he
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  Speaker 5: gave to my husband to display in our basement after
• 11:50
  Speaker 5: he my father-in-law downsized and no longer had room for
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  Speaker 5: it it has fun value for fans of the team
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  Speaker 5: but it is not worth any money. My husband said
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  Speaker 5: my brother would be well aware that the certificate had
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  Speaker 5: no resale slash monetary value. My husband told me the
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  Speaker 5: certificate can't be sold. It can be transferred to someone
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  Speaker 5: else if the person who originally bought it passes away.
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  Speaker 5: But you aren't allowed to sell it to someone else
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  Speaker 5: even if it was worth money. My family is from
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  Speaker 5: Illinois and I was born there and grew up there.
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  Speaker 5: I moved to Iowa for a job after I graduated
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  Speaker 5: from college. My husband's family is from Iowa. None of
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  Speaker 5: them have ever lived in Wisconsin. My husband's dad was
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  Speaker 5: able to get a replacement certificate. Apparently there is an
• 12:31
  Speaker 5: entire department that manages those certificates and his dad was
• 12:34
  Speaker 5: able to contact the team and get one no problem.
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  Speaker 5: I was still angry and kept confronting my brother about
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  Speaker 5: what happened. I kept asking him why he would destroy
• 12:43
  Speaker 5: something that belonged to my husband like that. I'm asking
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  Speaker 5: you to. That wasn't a demand.
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  Speaker 4: I'm asking.
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  Speaker 5: I'm asking. There was a question mark after that.
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  Speaker 3: Please?
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  Speaker 5: There's a little bit left.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, boy.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's just weird. I don't understand the reasoning
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  Speaker 5: behind this.
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  Speaker 4: Nor do I. It seems like... Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 4: It's like it's been resolved, but also not. Yeah, it's
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: been resolved, but the reasoning doesn't make any sense.
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  Speaker 3: So really.
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  Speaker 5: i'm still gonna be pissed either way still don't like
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  Speaker 5: your brother yeah i fear he wouldn't say anything at
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  Speaker 5: first besides that it is a worthless piece of paperwork
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  Speaker 5: my dad and others in the family defended my brother
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  Speaker 5: saying people put too much stock in having the certificate
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  Speaker 5: that's not the point go destroy their stuff yeah go
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  Speaker 5: destroy their you know i don't know trophies or destroy
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  Speaker 5: their base and then say oh well you can replace
• 13:29
  Speaker 5: that yeah it was ugly anyway it didn't belong to
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  Speaker 5: my brother and he was a guest My brother finally
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  Speaker 5: said the certificate was stupid and he was mad at
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  Speaker 5: my husband for having it and just snapped.
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  Speaker 4: Your brother's crazy.
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  Speaker 6: I'm mad that my brother-in-law has a sports certificate and
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  Speaker 6: I hate him for it and I'm gonna go destroy it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: That is, I don't even know what to say to that.
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  Speaker 4: You've got issues. Get help? You've got issues.
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  Speaker 5: You've got issues for sure. But he wouldn't apologize or
• 14:00
  Speaker 5: admit he was wrong. I'm embarrassed even though my husband
• 14:03
  Speaker 5: said it isn't my fault. I don't watch football so
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  Speaker 5: I don't understand why my family is acting this way.
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  Speaker 5: My husband only casually watches and I can tell he
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  Speaker 5: is hurt and angry about what happened. I've been pretty
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  Speaker 5: low contact with my family since it happened. I haven't
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  Speaker 5: spent any holidays with them since it happened and on
• 14:18
  Speaker 5: the rare times we talk, It is surface-level stuff or
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  Speaker 5: small talk.
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  Speaker 4: Dang.
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  Speaker 5: So he really destroyed your relationship with your family all
• 14:25
  Speaker 5: over being a weirdo.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and the fact that your family was on that
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  Speaker 4: fine for that is crazy. It is a red flag
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: that they're on his side for what? Like, yeah, I
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: can get a new one, but why did he do it.
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: In the first place?
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: To, like, prove a point?
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: Why is everyone okay with this? Yeah.
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: It's driving me crazy.
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: It's so weird.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: And that's the end of this story. Let's head to
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: the next one.
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: My wife stayed out for hours with no text, so
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: I tested her friends. A plus for effort. My wife,
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: 39 female, and I, 40 male, have been married for
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: eight years and have a four-year-old son. We both work
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: full-time and have a good handle on household duties and expectations.
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: My wife has been really busy at her job the
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: past six weeks or so. Her job does a lot
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: of seasonal work and this time of the year is
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: among their busiest. They have a lot of seasonal workers
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: they hire to help and they held a party slash
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: happy hour for them last week. The week before the party,
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: my wife was at a work conference for four days
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: while I was holding down the home front. The day
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: of the party, she told me that she would only
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: stay until six to seven. so that she could be
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: home for her son's bedtime. I went about our normal
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: evening routine with her son and got a text from
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: my wife at about 7.15 telling me that she was
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: just wrapping up and would be home soon. I put
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: her son to bed and started doing some cleaning and
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: the next thing I know it's 9pm and my wife
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: isn't home. So I text her to see if she's okay.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: She calls back a few minutes later and tells me
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: she stopped talking with people, but we'll be heading home soon.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: I was a little frustrated and annoyed by this. By
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: the way, this comes from White Lie Amarillo, and if
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: you want to submit your own stories, go to the
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: r slash okay story time subreddit. I'm Sophia.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: And I'm Savannah.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: And we're here to give good advice goofily, but we
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: don't have all the answers. We only know what we'd do.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: So let us know what you would do in the comments.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: And OP says, when she got home, I told her
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: that I would appreciate a little more communication from her
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: if her plans are going to change like that. She
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: got defensive and told me that I'm not supporting her
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: and that she needs to feel like she has the
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: freedom and agency to do social things without me policing
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: and parenting her and that she lost track of time.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: This is so funny because I've had this exact same
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: conversation with my boyfriend before and his response was, I'm
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: so sorry. That's totally valid. I'll do that. It's not
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: that hard. I told her that 90 minutes is a
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: long time to lose track of, and that it takes
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: 20 seconds to send a text. She got mad and
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: went off to bed. That weekend, she had a few
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: friends over for cocktails. My wife was inside doing something,
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: so I went out to the patio and said hi
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: to her friends. I then asked them if I could
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: get their opinion on a disagreement my wife and I had.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: I told them the story about my wife's work party,
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: but lied, and told them that it was me that
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: stayed out without updating my plans. They started going off
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: on me for not respecting my wife enough to give
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: her an update after 90 minutes. And that even though
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: it's important for parents to have social time, I needed
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: to recognize that the only way I can do that
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: is by my wife staying on with our son. They
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: all told me I owe my wife an apology and
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: that I need to do better. Any final thoughts? I mean,
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: to me personally, I don't really feel like it's a
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: big deal just because I like I will keep someone
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: in this situation before. would where you have plans with
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: someone and then they're like oh yeah this time oh
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: yeah and then you're waiting around you're like well I
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: could have done something.
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: Else yeah but I feel like that you know what
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: were they what did they have plans to do anything
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: yeah I don't think they had any plans to do
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: anything it's just like he just wanted her home for
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: some reason but she's like out at like you know
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: an event.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: So I don't know if my boyfriend says hey can
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: we like if I say hey can you know are
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: you coming at this time I'll see you at you
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: know nine or like I'll see you at eight and
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: he's like Yeah, okay, I'll come right after this thing
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: and then shows up a couple hours later. I'm like, well... Well,
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: if it's, like, over two hours, I'd be like, okay.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: Because she said that she was going to come over around, like,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: seven and then she came, like, she didn't text until
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: nine and then it still wasn't home.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: I think it's rude.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah. I think that is very rude. But I've, yeah.
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: My situation has always been, like, if there were plans
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: and we were planning on doing something and then the person, like,
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: You know, I say, oh, come over at 6.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: And then they don't come over. And at 6, they
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: aren't here. Text them like, hey, come in, whatever. Oh, yeah,
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: just doing a few things. Be there by 6.30. Okay.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: And then 6.30 comes around. Oh, just doing a few
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: more things. Be there by 7.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: You know, and then it's 9 p.m. And it's like, okay,
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: I could have done other things. Like, that's the difference
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: between there was like a plan and there wasn't.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: But I don't know. I mean. Hanging out with your
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: partner is a plan.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: Even if you're married.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: It's tough on that.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: I guess.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: But the thing is, it wouldn't have been a huge
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: deal if she had just said, you're right. I'm so sorry.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: I'll do that next time.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: And then it's not wrong.
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: That's the other thing. Her trying to argue about it
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: is kind of like, eh.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: But OP continues. In the middle of their admonishment of me,
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: my wife came out and asked what we were talking about.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: One of her friends said that I had just told
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: them about the party the previous week and they were
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: telling me I needed to apologize. My wife looked confused
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: and said, but I was the one who had the
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: work party. And OP's just sitting there like, aw, aw, aw, aw, aw.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: I was sitting there with a little smirk on my
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: face and my wife got pissed. Her friends did too.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Her friends told me I was a knucklehead for lying
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: to them and tricking them. I asked them if their
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: advice for me still applies to my wife. And they
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: all got defensive and tried to change their stories. That's crazy. Uh-oh.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: My wife got upset because I embarrassed her. Well, clearly
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: her friends will back her up no matter what she does, so... Yeah.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd be like, oh, well, actually.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: Advice for me, but not for she.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I... mean, he was just trying to prove a point.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know. I also would be annoyed if
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: my partner did this and was like, oh, well, I
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: asked your friend and they actually said, like, why are
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: we involving them? Yeah. It's like you need like validation
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: from my friends. Like, don't go to my friends to
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: get them on your side. But I also think it's
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: silly that she's not listening to you.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: So I also agree. Everyone sucks here, honestly. Yeah, I'd
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: say that too.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: And that's the end of this story. Let's head to
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: the next one.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: My husband wants to postnup after I raised our three kids.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: What if I said no?
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: For the last year or so, my husband has been
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: talking about wanting us to sign a postnup for dividing
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: our assets in case we were ever to split up.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: We have been married for eight years and have three
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: young kids. Neither of us had any money when we
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: got together, and my husband started his career after we
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: got married. I'm a stay-at-home mom and have not worked
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: full-time since our oldest was born six years ago, and
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: not at all since my youngest was born two years ago.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: My husband has built a very successful career over the years,
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: and I'm very proud of him. His reasoning for the
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: post-nup is that he has worked very hard to get
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: where he is, and his income will go up significantly
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: over the next several years.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna pause you quick. Pause you real quick, bud.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Why do you think that you were able to work
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: so hard when you had kids? Was it maybe because
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: you weren't? paying for childcare? Was it maybe because your
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: wife was at home taking care of your kids so
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: that you could work so much? But she's not allowed
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: to have any of your money? She's not owed any
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: of that? That's ridiculous.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: Guess not. He handles most of our finances and all
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: of our investments. He's a financial advisor and says that
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: he is making sacrifices now so that he can have
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: a great retirement later.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: Oh, and I didn't make sacrifices when I gave up
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: my career?
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: And if we were to split up down the road...
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: He would have to work much longer and basically have
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: to start over on those investment accounts if we had
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: to split everything evenly by then.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: And what happens if you get this post-nup and you
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: split up to OP?
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: He says he did this himself and that I didn't
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: support him so he thinks that he should get to
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: keep the majority of his earnings and investments.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: I would divorce him right now. Without a post-nuff. Yeah,
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: I would divorce him right now.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: By the way, this comes from SuddenSide7712. And if you
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: want to submit your own stories, go to the r
• 22:15
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• 22:17
  Speaker 4: I'm Sophia.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: And we're here to give some good advice in a
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: little goofy way, but we don't have all the answers.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: We only tell you what we would do. So let
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: us know what you would do down in the comments.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: As OP says, I'm irritated and hurt that he thinks
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: I haven't supported him in his career. When I asked
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: him why he thinks that, He said it was because
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: I never went out and got referrals or sent people
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: his way to invest money with him.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: What?
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: Because I was taking care of your kids.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you think I was doing all that time?
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: I was just sitting around, you know, just putzing around.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: In my opinion, staying home and raising our kids and
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: taking care of our home is how I support him.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: He never has.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: To take the day off work if the kids are sick.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: or worry about the million things that go on into
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: keeping a house and doing the day-to-day stuff that goes
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: into parenting and housekeeping. Yeah, it is a full-time job.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying he does nothing at home, but putting
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: the kids to bed sometimes and boxing up leftovers, not
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: to be confused with cleaning the kitchen, after dinner is
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: not that much. He does some of the outside work,
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: feeds the dogs, and shovels snow as well.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: Besides, I'm a mom.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: I almost never am rubbing elbows with people that can invest-
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: Just hanging around others.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Stay-at-home moms.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: He also says that I should be home with our
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: kids right now. We both agree on this, and he
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: wants me to start working when they are all in
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: school full-time. He already talked to a lawyer and proposed
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: splitting our assets as they are right now, 50-50. He
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: would pay off the cars, he would either sell or
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: buy me out of the house along with a certain
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: monthly payment. Am I being unreasonable that I do not
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: want to sign this? I think it's unreasonable that he
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: wants me to sign this now and not even later
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: on when I'm at least working. I also feel so unappreciated.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: It's very clear that because the work I do for
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: our family doesn't come with a paycheck, it doesn't mean
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: as much. It also seems so selfish and I'm hurt
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: that this is his money and not a life we
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: have built together.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: I also think it's insane to be this like headstrong
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: or just like this gung ho about a postnup and saying, well,
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: when we get divorced, when like, it's like, are we
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: getting divorced? Really?
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: It's like he's planning it. I think honestly, truthfully, I
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: have a conspiracy theory.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: I think he's cheating.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. Now I think that too. Now
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: that you said that, I think that too. I think
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: he's cheating.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: Unfortunately, I think there's an affair happening here.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: And he's like, well, when?
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, if.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, some weeks.
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: I told him I wouldn't consider signing, emphasis on consider,
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: until the kids are in school and I'm working and
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: we have done a fair amount of couples counseling. I
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: see so much more sense in investing in the longevity
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: of our relationship than in the end of it, particularly
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: when we aren't even on the verge of a divorce.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the fact that that just came out of nowhere
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: and he's just like.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: I just want to be prepared just in case this happens.
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: It's like, huh?
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Like, I mean, I understand you want to protect your
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: money and everything like that, but it shows that you
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: care so much less for me.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just about the money. It's all about the money, money, money. Update.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: Well, I finally got him to agree to counseling, so
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: that feels big. I've been asking him to go for
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: a long time. I made an appointment at the community
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: college to get classes started next semester and a consultant
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: with a lawyer to learn more about my options. I
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: wanted to add context to my previous post. I wrote
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: it after a big argument and as much as I
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: wanted to be fair and tell it as unbiased as
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: I could, the comments made me realize I didn't do
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: a good job. First of all, I know for a
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: fact he's not cheating.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: It was just a theory. If you say so. If
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: you say so. It was a theory.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: I'll take it back. I'll take the blame on that one.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: I know lots of people think that and end up
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: being wrong. But I know him. I know his habits
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: and schedules. And I know that's not happening. Never been
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: a suspicion for me. Second, the reason he first brought
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: up a post-nup over a year ago was because of
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: a conversation we had about something he heard me tell
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: my sister. She was talking to me about her then
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: relationship and some issues that felt familiar to me. I
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: told her things don't get better just because you get
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: married and in fact, they will get much harder before
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: or if they get better. He asked about this and
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: I was reluctant to tell him because I knew it
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: would hurt his feelings. The first year of my marriage
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: was hard. I now know it was largely due to
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: him dealing with some big depression slash anxiety symptoms and
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: linking them to being married instead of addressing the root cause.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: Things got better and we both got happier. Anyways. Through
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: personal therapy, I learned to forgive my past self for self-abandonment, basically.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: And that two opposing things can be true at the
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: same time. I love him deeply and love the life
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: we have now. And the woman I am now would
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: not have tolerated that relationship if dropped into the same
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: situation again. I told him all of this and all
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: he took away. from that was i wish i hadn't
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: married you.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah well i could have gotten that from
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: the fact that you were trying to plan your divorce
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: no i'm thinking like like what he pointed out like
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: i don't think that's like his opinion oh i think
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: like what he took away from the conversation was like
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: so you wish you never married yeah i don't know
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Which is not the case, but he is understandably hurt
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: and can't get past it. So if anything, he is
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: worried that I secretly want to leave him. About me
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: sacrificing my career to stay home with the kids, he
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: brought up that he encouraged me to get back to
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: school and get a degree while we were first married
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: slash dating, but I was never motivated enough to put
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: myself in a good financial situation.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: Which is true if I'm being honest. I had dropped
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: out of college in my early 20s, we are 31,
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: got married at 22, because I didn't know what I
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: wanted to do. Struggled with grades and felt like I
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: was wasting money and getting nowhere. A big regret for
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: me and something I'm embarrassed of. Well, girl, you can.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: There's community colleges. There's all kinds of stuff. And now
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: you have money.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: It is never too late.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah. You go to college. I mean, maybe it'll be
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: a little weird with like some people not your age
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: in it. But I don't know.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: I like community college, especially. It is so diverse age wise.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: Um all right let's get into it let's do it
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: i started school again when pregnant with my oldest but
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: stopped after she was born i did however have a
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: swim lesson business that i loved i was really good
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: at it and it would never support a family alone
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: the way it was then but we were married and
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: working together financially i quit before my last was born
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: because of some new complications with permits and well having
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: three kids he still wants me to sign a post-nup
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: is open to a counter proposal and thinks his proposal
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: is super generous and that he would be where he
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: is financially with or without me. I mean, he's not wrong,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: but that is just not a way to say it. Yeah,
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, it sounds like he's pretty bad at the
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: words part of the relationship. Yeah. I'm still mad, and
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: so is he, but at least we can hopefully make
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: progress in therapy. He is an excellent dad that dotes
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: on our kids. He does help around the house, even
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: though we get into it about that. I don't want
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: anyone thinking he's a bum because he is the least
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: lazy person I know. There's no way I'm 100% in
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: the right, so I'm ready to hear it if this
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: info changes anything. Well, OP, I don't think that this
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: is hard because I know that he has worked all
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: this time and has now become successful and has supported
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: you through all this. And, you know... that's great. But
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: the fact that he's kind of making you feel bad
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: about it.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: He can support you all the, oh, he wants. But
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: the fact that he just doesn't recognize anything that you've
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: done is very.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: Concerning to me.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: It also concerns me because you raised his kids.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: And your kids.
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: Your children.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: You have raised.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Like people pay child care to do that.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's expensive.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I've been there.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Savannah's been paid for that.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: So I mean it's doable and especially with like what
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: you're doing. I think I think what you do is
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: you do you do what you want as in like
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: career wise. Like maybe go back to community college or
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: maybe I think you know get certifications or something. Yeah.
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: Like You know, start doing things that you enjoy instead
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: of your life being catered to what he wants.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: And like also just like centered around kids only.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: I think definitely doing your own thing. But I think
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: also therapy will help you guys because you are going
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: to go do couples counseling. I think you're going to
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: get a lot of insight there because I feel like
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of miscommunication happening between you two. And
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: I think the therapist would probably straighten that up.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: And that's the end of this story. Let's head to
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: the next one.
• 30:47
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• 30:50
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• 30:52
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• 30:55
  Speaker 4: My husband refused to pay my sister back after she
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: saved her son. Uh, excuse me? I, 29 female, and
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: my husband, 35 male, owed my sister, 31 female, a
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: substantial sum of money. Our son, 5 male, has a disability.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Not mentioning what, because it isn't relevant. Our insurance covers treatment,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: but there's better treatment available if you have the money.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: We did not. However, my sister and her husband are
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: very wealthy. Attorney and data analysis. They agreed to pay
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: for the series of treatments and we would pay them
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: back interest-free over a long, long.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: Period of time.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: That loan was nearly three years ago. My son enjoys
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: a much higher quality of life as a result and
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: we made every repayment until the vid hit. Long story short,
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: both of us lost our jobs and we haven't made
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: a payment since. We are both working again, but for
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: much less money, and we weren't on great money before.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: My husband's grandfather passed away recently, and every grandchild was
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: left 10K. My husband wants to get a better car,
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: ours is junk, but I think we should pay it
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: to my sister. By the way, this comes from AntiqueBumblebee49,
• 31:58
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• 32:00
  Speaker 4: to the r slash okstorytime subreddit. I'm Sophia.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: And I'm Savannah.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: And we're here to give good advice goofily, but we
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: don't have all the answers.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: We only know what we do.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: So let us know what you would do in the comments.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: And Opie says, this isn't even a third of what
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: we currently owe her. And I don't know when we
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: are going to be able to restart payments on the debt.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: My husband disagrees because he thinks we need it more
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: than they do. I don't disagree that we do sort
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: of need a better car, but I feel like it's
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: wrong to not pay someone back just because they can
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: spare the money. My sister and her husband don't know
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: anything about this and have not been pressuring us to
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: restart payments. They're both just like, pay us when you can.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: Am I the a-hole if I insist we pay my sister?
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: I have thoughts, but what do you think?
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: I'm thinking you should talk to the sister about this.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: I feel like be like, Hey, we need a new,
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: we just got like 10 K.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: We just got 10 K from a passing. I would
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: like to pay you back because I know we still
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: owe a lot of money and I really want to
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: give that to you, but we also need a new car.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: So I am just wondering what you feel would be
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: fair to you guys. I, I, I also feel like
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: you guys do kind of need a new car.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: If your car is junk. I mean, yes. Yes, talk
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: to sister.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: I agree with that.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: I feel like you guys need a new car. If
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: your sister and her husband are not pressuring you guys
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: to pay it back. then just keep paying the little installments.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Maybe you're not.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: Paying it as efficiently as you were because you lost
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: your jobs and got new kind of worse ones, but
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: I feel like the car would help you guys get
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: maybe better jobs or just, I don't know, get back
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: on your feet a little bit more to help pay
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: them quicker.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: If your car is about to break down and is
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: not a not gonna work and it's just old and
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: maybe like you know it's a gas hog or something
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: then yeah okay then yeah but i would still i
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: don't know.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: Talk to her yeah be transparent i'd still have the
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: conversation with the sister be like hey where are we
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: you're still planning on paying you back that is not
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: not happening because.
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: I think it would be worse if you just went
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: and bought a new car and then they see yeah
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: and it's like okay.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're transparent. I feel like they would
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: be fine with you. Like, this isn't a luxury vacation.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: This is a needed purchase. Edit. Please stop suggesting the
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: car is unsafe. It's not unsafe. It's 12 years old.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: The air con doesn't work, and it's a tiny three-door
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: that's hard to get our son into and out of,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: but its miles are low for its age as we
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: live in an urban area and we've properly maintained it. Yeah,
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: it's a junk car worth maybe $ 1, 500, but it's not unsafe.
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: Wait, three doors?
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: How does that work?
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: My husband wants a new car because since our son
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: was born, we haven't had a single luxury item. Between
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: medical bills, managing his diet, healthy food is pricey, and childcare,
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: we have very little left over. I totally get why
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: my husband wants another car. We didn't plan on life
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: being like this. But once we pay off my sister,
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: we can finally start saving for a house. A place
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: we can call our own. Edit two, I do think
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: that unfortunately I may not have been clear enough in
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: my wording. Many posts and DMs seem to be of
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: the belief we are destitute with a car about to
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: fall apart. This is not the case. Our car is 2009.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: It's old, but really it's not likely to pass away
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: anytime soon. It is low miles as we live in
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: the city and it's only really driven to my job.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: We are in walking distance of most places we want
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: to go. Also, my sister is the only bill we
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: cannot pay. Everything else is up to date. We paid
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: her rent, even through the bid, because we did not
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: want to owe it later. We're also skilled workers and
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: not on minimum wage. However, childcare, good medical care, and
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: proper nutrition, which our son needs, is very expensive. We
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: hope that either one of us can find better employment
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: in our qualified field soon, or one of us could
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: get a second job, which a second car would be
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: really helpful for.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: At the moment, restarting payments to my sister is not possible.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: And I don't think holding the 10K and just paying
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: her per month is good either. If it's going on
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: the debt, why string it out? Yeah, I mean, it's
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: not like it's... It's not going anywhere.
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: There's no interest.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no interest. For those suggesting I speak with
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: my sister, that's pointless. I know she will always tell
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: me to keep the money. Oh, then it's not pointless.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: Like I get you want to pay your sister back.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: But in the long run, I think your husband is right.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: I think having a car, even if you're saying that
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: your other car will still function all right, then keep both.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: And then you have two cars that you guys can
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: go to jobs with.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, if your sister is fine with you doing that,
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: then just do it. I don't know why, you know,
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: the death's still going to be there, yes. But if
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: you need that money to, you know, survive and live
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: in this world, then, you know. And she's not, you know,
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: she doesn't want you to be without. You know, that's
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: not the point of paying her back is, you know,
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: for you to be in squalor. She did it so,
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: you know, like she helped you out and is not
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: expecting it all because it's a big chunk of money.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: I just think ultimately you will have a better like
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: quality of life, which often leads to better opportunities.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: She is a very generous person. That's why I don't
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: want to take advantage of her. You would not be
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: taking advantage. Especially if you talked to her. Asking the
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: opinion of a person who would give you the shirt
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: off their back to keep you warm is manipulative. Because
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: you already know, even if they would prefer to be
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: paid back, they would never prioritize themselves over you. However,
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: these comments have made me realize why I am so
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: upset at my husband. I think perhaps unintentionally I feel
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: he has been taking advantage of my sister. And not
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: treating this loan like a loan, but more like a
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: favor we may repay at our leisure. If this was
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: a credit card or owed to a bank, he would
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: be desperate to repay it. But because it's my sister,
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: and she is affluent, he has not been treating it appropriately.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: For the two years before the vid, I made every
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: single payment. He didn't contribute once. That's not okay. That's weird. Yeah,
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: this is a joint debt for our joint son. Yet
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: only I have paid on it. That needs to be
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: a conversation.
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, why is he not contributing to that? And then
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: just being like, oh, we could use this for a
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: new car.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: That's alarming. I accepted this because I earned more money
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: and he would use his spare money pre the vid
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: on an occasional family outing or meal out. This is
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: the first time he has had money he could put
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: down on his son's medical expenses. And he wants a
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: car when our current one is perfectly serviceable for another
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: few years. He agrees that a new car is not necessary.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: What do you think Kobe should do?
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't realize there was this predicament with your husband.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a separate issue.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, now I'm kind of weary of hubby and why
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: he's kind of mooching off this. Like, kind of mooching
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: off of you, for sure. And kind of your sister
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: as well.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: And also, if you don't need a new car, you know,
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: you don't need to get one. I don't know.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: I still kind of agree about the car. I still
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: think that having two cars when you're both working is
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: super helpful. But that's just another, you know, another bill
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: you're going to have to pay, though.
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: It's not like, you know, I don't know if you'll
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: find a great car for $ 10, 000.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Agreed.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Agreed.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: But, you know, if I don't know, it would just
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: have to it would depend.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: You need to do this together.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: That's for sure. You guys need to discuss this and
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: come to an agreement together, not one spend the money
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: and the other one be like, oh, well, OK.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Agreed. A little bit left. To those who say it's
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: his inheritance, you're absolutely right. However, I'm not sure I
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: want to be with a man who would prioritize a
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: luxury item over paying off his son's medical bills. I
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: think that's a little bit of an unfair statement. It's
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: not a $ 10, 000 car when you have a junkie car
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: that has like maybe two more years on it. I
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: don't think that's a luxury item. Like I feel like
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: he's saying this is kind of a necessity. Yeah.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think a new car would help you
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: guys out.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: Like, I don't think that's... I think when, like, something
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: that helps you out, I don't think is a luxury item. Like,
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: to me, a luxury item is... I'm going to go buy, like, a...
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Michael Kors bag. Like you both have a car that
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: you use for work. And he's like, I'm going to
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: buy this like motorcycle motorcycle. Like that to me is
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: more of a luxury item. Like this is something that
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: you would use for work. That's not to me. Yeah.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: Especially a 10K car. You're not getting.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if he he would just put
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: that towards it. I don't know if the car would
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: actually be like 10K.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: We don't know.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: This loan wasn't for something trivial. Our son was nonverbal.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: He can now talk. Oh, wow. Every time I hear
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: his beautiful voice say an actual word, I want to cry. Today,
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: my sister still pays for the out-of-pocket portion of his
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: speech therapy. However, this is a gift to her nephew.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: I will not be responding to any further comments or
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: posting an update, but thank you to everyone who helped
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: me see the issue more clearly. I feel I am
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: better equipped to discuss this with my husband now. No,
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: tell me more. Tell me more stuff. Oh my god,
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: what happened?
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: I'm not like... It's not that I'm on your husband's side,
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: but I think there is a little bit more... in
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: this issue. Yeah. And I... Yeah. I just don't see
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: it as like a luxury item in the way that
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: you're viewing it.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's like a.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: I don't feel like it's a selfishly motivated... Yes, I agree.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: I think this would help both of you. Yeah.
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: It's not just gonna, you know, help him and then
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: you're just stuck, you know, doing this. But also, what
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: I'm afraid of is that he's gonna buy this car
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: and you're gonna have to pay the bills for it.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: I hope not.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Because.
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: From the past, it doesn't look like he's really paying anything,
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: so he wants to get this item, but then who's
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: going to actually pay for it?
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: And that's the end of this story. Let's head to
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: the next one.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: I got stuck on vacation with my ex, and my
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: friend is making a move on her.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Ha-cha-cha!
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: So I, 23 male, am stuck on vacation with five people. Ex-girlfriend,
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: 22 female, myself, best friend, his ex-girlfriend... and another guy
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: who's doing his best to put up with the situation.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Alright, got it.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Here we go. OP, ex-girlfriend, best friend, best friend ex,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: and guy.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: Before you ask, why would you go on vacation with
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: an ex-girlfriend? Everything we all paid for ahead of time,
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: and it was all non-refundable. Also, I had the idea
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: everyone could be mature and we could all hang out
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: and go to the beach, etc.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: Oops.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: Not in your 20s.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, come on.
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: So the situation is thus. My then-girlfriend moved to New
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: York City to live with her friends. I asked her
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: about two months before if she wanted to remain serious
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: because I understand long-distance relationships are hard and take a
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: lot of work, but I only live about two hours
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: away and would come down to the city every weekend.
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: But about a month into her being away, she was
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: avoiding talking about anything serious, claiming that she was getting
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: really busy getting situated.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: How about she is getting real busy getting situated?
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: I never pressed the issue because I'm a really laid
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: back person and figured someone will bring problems up when
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: they arise slash feel comfortable. Fast forward a few weeks,
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: we break up under her excuse of I'm too mature
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: for her. I don't think too mature is a bad excuse,
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: you know? I would rather they be too mature than
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: not mature.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: It depends on the mature. Oh, you don't want to
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: be spontaneous and go do things. Is it that mature
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: or too mature where you don't really show parts of yourself?
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I don't like people that are too mature because that's just...
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I can't have fun with you. I can't make you laugh.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: I have to be the one that always makes you laugh.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: You can't bring anything funny to the table.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: Well, does mature mean like serious as in like you
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: don't take jokes or something?
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: That might be what the context I'm looking at, but
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't have the full picture either.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: Well, she says that I'm too mature for her. She
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: doesn't have those romantic feelings for me and never has
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: or has a spicy sleep drive for me. To top
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: it off, she used the line while crying. I wish
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: I had met you 10 years from now.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, you know why. She wants to get around, see
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: some people, have a lot of experiences, then settle down
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: with a person like OP because OP is husband material.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: But she's having an issue right now. Not right now.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I need to go see the world.
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: I've been through the dating system since the beginning of
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: high school and have experienced a lot. But this is
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: extremely hard to figure out. I just accept it and
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: try to move on. The moving on thing, I'm only
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: about halfway there, but I'm trying my best and it'll
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: eventually happen. By the way, this comes from Captain Jack Harkness.
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: And if you want to submit your own stories, go
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: to the r slash okay story time subreddit. I'm Savannah.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I'm Riley.
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: And we're here to give some good advice, Goofly. But
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: we do not have all the answers. We only tell
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: you what we would do. But let us know what
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: you would do down.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: In the comments. As if he says, now for vacation time.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: We all head out on this trip and I suck
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: up my issues slash feelings for the.
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: Sake of sanity. Not everyone here is capable of that,
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: but I figured we could work through it too. Meanwhile, though,
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: the entire time we've been here, she treats me like
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: I broke up with her. Mean little offhand comments ignoring
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: me when trying to attempt simple conversation, basic evasion tactics, etc.,
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: So she, you're too mature. She's too immature. So how
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: do you deal with this?
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: You don't. You break up and you don't go to
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: vacation with each other.
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: Now, I would understand if I was being unreasonable or clingy,
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: but I haven't done anything this entire vacation besides being
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: a little grumpy one night. But I didn't take anything
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: out on anyone, mainly because it was a long, long
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: drive to vacation and I don't do well in cars
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: for that long. I don't see any real problem, but
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: everything here between myself and my ex and my best
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: friend and his ex has just been coming up over
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: and over again. Well, yeah, what else do you talk about?
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: That's the only thing you guys have in common.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: That is true.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Every time I hang out with my brother's friends, all
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: they talk about is the girls they dated in high
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: school and just that same conversation over and over again.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Seems like the friend group is in a similar vibe
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: to that.
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: I'm such a drama-free person, so I can't stand this nonsense.
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: I am contemplating buying a plane or train ticket to
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: leave and go home just for my sanity, but they
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: are really expensive and would cost twice the price of
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: the trip we took. Plus, I wouldn't get my money back.
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: So I'm stuck on a financial versus sanity vacation and
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: really just need to figure out if there is something
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: I can do to either not lose my mind or
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: fix this issue that I'm 99% sure isn't my fault
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: in the slightest. What do you guys think? this is
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: hard should he get out of there i just wouldn't
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: have went on the vacation i would have been like
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: taking the loss like i mean why would you sit
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: there and try to suck it up and be mature
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: when obviously i don't know i don't think it i
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: don't know if it really ended in a good way
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: no this.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Was an immature thing i understand you wanted to save
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: money and everything was non-refundable that's sort of what happened
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: that's the consequence of being in a relationship with someone
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: you know you Another scenario, you get a dog with
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: someone and then you break up. Who keeps the dog?
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: It's like one of those things. You just kind of
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: have to say, oh, well, or buy her part of
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: vacation out and have a vacation. You shouldn't have went
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: with her.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: And your friend also. Like, why would you go on
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: like an ex thing? Like an ex vacation? I would
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: hate that.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, dude, you know what would be funny? If you
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: brought your ex and my ex and we both had
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: a good time together.
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: Huh?
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: We love the good old days.
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: There's an update. Almost one week later. So, before I
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: talked about how I was losing my mind by mistakenly
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: going on an already paid-for vacation with my ex-girlfriend, my
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: best friend, and his ex-girlfriend, I felt I needed to
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: post a follow-up since I didn't comment on the last
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: thread at all.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: Welp.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: I had this aching feeling I didn't mention between my
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: best friend and my ex. I thought the whole time
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: they had this weird connection going on.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: What?
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Your ex and your best friend? No! Oh, that's not
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: your friend.
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: Now are they going to switch partners?
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So, Love Island.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: It's Love Island.
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: It is Love Island.
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: After all, I helped her get a job at his
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: workplace because it was a field I knew she wanted
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: to get into.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Figured.
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: Might help. So I stay up late last night and
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: pretend I am too wasted than I am just so
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: that maybe they'd let their guard down. Yes, I know
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: this isn't the best way to go about it, but
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: I needed to know in this way I won't have
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: lies spinning around me. Caught my best friend sneaking into
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: my ex-girlfriend's room. I am still in love with her
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: and he knows this. I quickly texted him to get
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: the F out of her room if he wanted to
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: maintain any bit of friendship with me, which at this
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: point is almost assuredly no. I'm dumping him from best
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: friend and friend status. He then came in through the
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: front door in order to fool me and say that
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: I just came in. BS, I checked her outside window
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: and it had been opened. He's sneaking through the window.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: It's crazy that you helped assist this too, by the way.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: You got her a nice job with your best friend.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: Called her out on it and after consistently saying no
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: that nothing was happening, she admitted it.
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: Admitted some really personal things about herself. Nothing to do
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: with me, but just other dirt pickle human beings. That
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: I kind of already knew deep down. We talked for
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: hours into the morning.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Um.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: I don't know, what what do you do in this
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: situation would you are you like being like vacation over
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: we're done or.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah best friend we're done because he went deliberately behind
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: your back another thing remember that random guy that was
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: there yes what is he even doing.
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: There i don't know truthfully i.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: It's two ex-couples.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Is he just in the corner hiding from everything? Why
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: did he agree to.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: Go to this?
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: I mean, I guess some people would go for the plot.
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: But yikes, I am not getting in the middle of
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: any of this.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: You could either get.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Back with his ex and make it even. Then you
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: guys can still be friends. And then I'll add some
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: more emotional turmoil. People are saying good grief. Shouldn't have
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: told your best friend about your ex-girlfriend's skills. Man, she's
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: the past tense. Let them live.
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: See, that's what I'm thinking. Like, as much as it
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: wasn't refundable and blah, blah, blah, all this stuff.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: If you, you know, I would never put myself in
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: a weird, awkward situation just because.
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: Of, you know, money and stuff.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: I'd be like, whatever.
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: I'm just going to eat the money. Like, you know,
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: just eat it.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: It's fine.
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: I'd rather not make it awkward or weird or whatever. Like,
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to enjoy myself on this vacation. It's
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: going to be weird and awkward. That's not a vacation.
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: It's just like a weird setup. I'm not doing that.
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: I don't care how much I.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Taking your vacation time and torturing yourself.
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Like, what kind of vacation is that?
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: I want to go on vacation with people I like,
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: not people who I just broke up with.
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: Anyway, we're going to keep going. Then one morning, I
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: wanted to see if it was happening again. Also needed
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: my phone charger. So I went out to where he
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: was sleeping in the living room, and he was awake
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: and confronted me about it. I went no holds barred
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: into him about how he was a crappy friend, defending
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: himself by blaming me. Then, at the end of the conversation,
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: he told me, we wouldn't F while you were here
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: because it would be too loud.
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Thanks, friend.
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: Ooh, that's not a friend.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Yikes.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Too loud, really.
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: I went ballistic and threw a glass of water at
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: the wall. I almost left, but needless to say, if
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: I didn't attempt restraint, I might be in a South
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: Carolina prison. They both still deny anything happening, but it
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: doesn't account for the fact that something wasn't about to happen.
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: So by their logic, I should have waited another five
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: minutes to bust down the door and probably actually beaten
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: his face in. And that's the.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: End of the- Okay. No holds bar is an idiom
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: that means without limits or restrictions or rules. It describes situation, competition,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: or conversation where anything is allowed and participants are not
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: held back. So this is what happens when you put
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: 22-year-olds on Love Island.
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, it was doomed from the start, so I
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: don't know what you thought was going to work out,
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: but obviously that all went to crap.
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: So maybe next time just be like, you know what?
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: I don't care. I'm going to put my well-being in
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: front of Everything else. To each their own.
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: But that's the end of that story and we got
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: another one coming right up. I traveled across the country
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: for my friend's wedding. But I wasn't invited to the dinner!
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: No food for you, pig! In my 20s, I was
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: invited to a colleague's wedding. An 8-hour drive each way,
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: so 16-hour round trip away. Another colleague and I decided
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: to car share and booked a bed and breakfast overnight.
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: It was the first wedding, other than family, that I'd
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: ever been to, so I was excited and felt really honored,
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: as even as a 20-year-old, I got they were expensive.
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: We get to the B & B early, they knew
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: we were going to a wedding, get ourselves ready, and
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: the lady of the house very kindly drives us to
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: the church, as it's in the Highlands, and the local
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: taxi firm only had one car and we're fully booked.
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: The wedding ceremony was so lovely with Celtic hand tying
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: and a candle ceremony. We take pictures of the bride
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: and mingle with other guests and get on the transport
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: to the reception where the dinner would be. We get
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: to the venue and like everyone else are checking the
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: table plan for our seats and still checking, but can't
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: find her names. Master of Ceremonies comes over and asks
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: to see our invites, to which he flatly states we
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: were only invited to the church and evening drinks and
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: that we need to leave. No!
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: What?
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: That's wild.
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: It was in tiny small print that our invite wasn't
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: for the meal. By the way, this comes from baby8227,
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: and if you want to submit your own story, go
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: to the r slash ok story time subreddit. I'm Savannah.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: I'm baby.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: And we're here to give some good advice in a
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: little goofy way, but we don't have all the answers.
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: We can only tell you what we would do, but
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: let us know what you would do down in the comments.
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: As Opie says, absolutely mortified we slip away, try to
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: find a local eatery in the highlands of Scotland. to
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: grab some food and waste some time for five hours.
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: We find a local greasy spoon and have a bacon
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: rill and tea, then decide to go back to the
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: B & B to freshen up. The lady was furious
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: and tried to feed us up.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: Bless her.
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: We actually got told off for not calling her. She
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: then drove us back to the evening ceremony at 7 p.m.
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: By this point, everyone at the venue was sloppy wasted
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: as they'd been drinking for five hours and we find
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: out we were the only evening guests.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: What? Huh?
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: Dang, why didn't they want you there for the dinner?
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: That's kind of.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: What were they going to do at the dinner?
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: Eat?
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: Eat what? Each other?
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: Oh, maybe... We tried to enjoy ourselves but slipped away
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: at 10pm as the single men were very handsy. We
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: got a lift from a kind local and went to
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: a local bar where we were entertained by more locals
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: who had heard of our fate from the B &
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: B owner. News travels fast in small Scottish villages. We
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: had the breakfast of gods the next morning and were
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: told if we ever go back to be assured that
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: is not how the local people treat their guests. We
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: had ended up having a fun night because of the locals.
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: They really did save the day in more ways than one.
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: Some old boy brought out his accordion and they gave
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: us an impromptu Kaylee and showed us Scottish dancing.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Dude, I love.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: How this local people brought it together.
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's actually nice.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Super sweet.
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: Now you know, like, oh, we're in a good place.
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: You know, these people are like, oh my God, that
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: would be me. All right, let's finish it up. Neither
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: my colleague, who was now a friend by the end
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: of the trip, shared trauma bonds, LOL, nor I, and
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: realized we weren't included in the whole event, and the
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: bride later let it slip. She only invited people from
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: the office because our boss had told her it was
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: the polite thing to do. We had thought we were
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: friends with her. Learning point from it all. I now
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: scrutinize wedding invites, and if I'm only invited to the
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: evening part, that's cool, but at least I'm informed. Oh,
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: and for petty revenge, we had put 50 pounds each
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: in the card envelope and chipped in for a beautiful
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: bedding set on her registry at Debenham's, So our gifts
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: were worth 100 pounds each. We took the money out
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: of the card and just gave her the betting.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Usually the gift should equal the amount of the meal.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: You know, you're supposed to kind of break. That's what
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: I think. It's like at the dinner thing, you kind
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: of break even.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, really?
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: That's what I think.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: And that's the end of this story. Let's head to
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: the next one.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: I spent months making my best friend's gift, but somebody
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: else took the credit?
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: Hey, that's mine!
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: My friend Cece and I decided to do a joint
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: gift for my best friend Allie. We are all in
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: our teens. Think 14 to 15. Anyway, over the past
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: few months, I've been working on Allie's gift. I'd regularly
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: call Cece up to see if she could help out
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: with things like packaging or picking up the small things
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: out for Allie. She always said she was too busy
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: and hung up. I managed to finish Allie's gift on time.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: And when it came to her birthday, we gave the
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: gift in school at lunch. I handed it to her
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: and gave her the card. Originally on the card, it said,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: for me, since I had done everything. Little did I know,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Cece had taken it and written her name on it
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: and rubbed mine out? Oh my gosh! You're catching hands!
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: When Allie read it, she gave Cece a hug, then
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: showed the presents and said to everyone, look what Cece did!
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Everyone started to compliment her, saying how the present was
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: done so well And how did she find the time
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: to do it for her friend? Cece smiled smugly and
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: then just went on about how she had to put
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: aside time for the present. But it was so worth
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: it seeing how happy Allie was. By the way, this
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: comes from I am a banana 41. And if you
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: want to submit your own stories, you know where to go.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: I'm Riley.
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: I'm Savannah.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Savannah, you're going to read this goofily. If you have
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: anything you'd like to add, please add down below. Hope
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: he says, I lost it. I'm a very emotional person,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: and this just pushed me over the edge. I started
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: screaming about how I'd spent ages trying to ask Cece
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: to help me, yet she never did, and how I'd
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: spent months on it, and she hadn't even checked up
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: on it once. I mean, fair, this is kind of like,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: things in school are really hard. Things like this happening
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: in school with lots of people, and you haven't really
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: found yourself yet.
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Go for it.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I would confront her. I'd be like, hey,
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: why did you do that? Oh, that's what she's doing?
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think this girl deserves it. Because why
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: would you do that? Like, you had no business to
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: change that at all. You deliberately did that for what?
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: To get credit for something you didn't do? Yeah, bye.
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: You're not my friend.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Everyone went quiet. And Cece was fuming. I started crying
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: and left. Allie followed me and hugged me. She said
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: she knew it was me who did that. but let
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Cece have her moment.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: I was pissed.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Very pissed. Cece actually admitted that she didn't do it
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: at all, and that I did most of it after
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: I asked all of her friends. They texted me saying
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: they were sorry, but I was an a-hole for causing
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: such a scene and ruining Allie's birthday?
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: No.
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: No, Cece's the B in this.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, Cece's the A-hole.
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe, like, I don't know. Don't do that. Go
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: get another gift. You apparently didn't get a gift for her.
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: And so you're like, oh, here, I did this.
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: No, you didn't.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Silver King, very 15-year-old reaction. Laurie Pritness, the Laurie Princess.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, crafts are also sacred. Katie Pollitton, rub the
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: name out. Doesn't OP know how to sign cards with
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: a pen? A lot harder to take credit for someone
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: else's work if you can't rub it out written in pen.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming it was something like a Sharpie in a
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: card and she just like, I don't know. We don't
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: know what it is, but she like deliberately took it out.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: The Blind One, this is why signing birthday cards with
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Sharpie is the best so you can't rub that crap out.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know what, how she did it either or
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: what she did to rub it out.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: I mean, with like pens, if they're like, I don't know,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: very inky, you can just like, like as soon as
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: they do it, like it probably isn't dry. And so
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: like you can like rub it out, but you would
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: still kind of see, I don't know.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: I know Allie doesn't mind. Cece's ignoring me, but Reddit,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: am I the A-hole? I'm saying nah, she's 15. This
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: is at school.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: Hours, dude.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Probably 20 to 30 hours into this.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: Craft?
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, screw you. I'd be like, whatever, you're not my friend.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Imagine if you made me a tubby nubby.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: My tubby nugget.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, imagine you made that for me and you and
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Sophia said you were going to do it together and
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Sophia took the credit.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: I'd be like, um, actually, no.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: I would push her out of the way and be like,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: I would just bump her out of the way.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: She'd fly across the room because she's this big.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: And then she wouldn't be able to work for a week.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: Then she went, yeah, Savannah hurt my shoulder. I feel like, oh.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Someone has hurt it.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: It's true. Aw, we're talking about her on her birthday.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: Zone of love.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: Everyone's saying not the a-hole. I like this.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: I like this.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: Update.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Well, a bit's happened in the past 10 minutes. Just,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: is this an update 10 minutes ago?
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: I guess so.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: 10 minutes. That's so funny. Cece actually apologized. which I'm
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: very surprised as she hates admitting she's wrong. She then
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: went on to complain about how Allie has been such
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: a mean friend and didn't deserve my gift. So she
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: took the credit? The entire thing was very confusing and
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: I ended up blocking her. Update two. What was that?
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: She blocked her.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: You don't need her anymore. Bye.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: You were a girl and 15 once? What does this mean?
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: What all this crap that's happening right now that we're
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: reading about? She blocked her? Not a friend anymore?
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: I'm confused.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's done with her.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: Because she's a liar and she's trying to take her...
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: She's tired of.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: Her trying to take credit for things that aren't hers.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: And she has to be the center of attention, it
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: seems like. It seems like Cece just needs to be
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: at the center of attention for everyone to see at
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: all times. And that's annoying, especially when you're 15. You
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: want all the attention. Doesn't mean you're going to get
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: it every single time, but you don't have to... like
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: ruin friendships just to get attention from people.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: Update two. Anyways, thank you all for the lovey advice.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: After all of it, I talked to my friends, the
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: ones who messaged me and told them the full situation. Apparently,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: CC had told them I was planning to blow up
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: on her at the Gathering And just to go along
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: with it, but make me feel terrible afterwards.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: Oh, screw her. I hate this girl. Oh, she's a
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: mean girl.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: What a mean girl. 15, 15 high school.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, mean girl. Ew, she's literally a Regina George. Screw
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: this girl.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Biological.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: Diabolical.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: Biological.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: Biologically a B.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: Basically gaslighting me. into thinking I was wrong for standing
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: up for myself. The whole scene with Allie was very tricky.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: She said Cece had been saying stuff about me before,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: but she didn't want to believe it. She actually didn't
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: know that the present was from me and genuinely thought
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: it was from Cece. After she realized she effed up,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: she felt so embarrassed she lied to me, which is
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: why she made the let Cece have her moment comment.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Cece has been ignoring me and won't even look at me. Honestly,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: I don't even want her to because I don't need
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: her negativity in my life. Yes, queen. There we go.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: After realizing how messed up my friend group is, I
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: started talking to others and it's helped me greatly. Okay,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: real quick. Should we drop Cece and Allie or no?
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Both of them?
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: I feel like Allie's okay.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: But it's... She could be. She could be okay.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: But.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: I don't know. Being a teenager, like, you are going
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: to have to choose sides because that's just how it is.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: And I don't know.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: I feel like she would take Cece's side.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: But I don't know.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: Put me wrong, Allie. I don't know. All my friends, like,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: I had two friends that didn't get along with each other. But, like,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: in social settings, like, I just told them that they
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: had to be civil with each other. And they still, like,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: they would be civil. But sometimes there would be problems.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: It was just weird.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: But they don't hang out now. I just hang out
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: with them separately because obviously we're all doing separate things
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: with our lives.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: There we go. I'm no longer friends with Allie. We're
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: just a little awkward. I'm a little upset that she
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: didn't even realize my own handwriting and it hurt when
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: she let Cece have the attention. But I'll get over it.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: I've been controlling my emotions better. breathing exercises, and just
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: overall resisting the urge to scream and cry. So thank
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: you for that, Reddit.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: You're welcome.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Do you have the urge to scream and cry?
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all the time.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: No, I don't have the urge to scream and cry.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: I guess that's all you need to know. So thank
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: you so much, Reddit.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: Yay.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: We are just helping young women left and right here
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: with their... High school problems. You catslonic. What in the
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: high school enablet is happening right now?
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: I agree. Kami says this is one of those stories
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: where this needs to be nipped in the bud now
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: or she will do it as an adult and have
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: a less kind intervention.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: That's true.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: She won't have a personality growing up.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: Well, not even that. It's just like she would be
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: so untrustworthy. No one's going to trust you. And you're
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: just going to like, who are your real friends in this?
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: The people who just go along with it because they
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: don't want to be on your bad side. Those aren't
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: true friends.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: I saw something that pretty women never learn the truth.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: Pretty women never know the truth because they'll never have
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: to go through horrible quests because they're pretty.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. I don't know. It's like the
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: pretty privilege thing. They get whatever they want. They don't
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: have to really worry about things.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: And that's the end of this story. Let's head to
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: the next one.
• 1:06:49
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• 1:06:51
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• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: My friend ruined the last trip we ever had and
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: now is doing it all over again.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: Why?
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: Stop it! Stop!
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: I've, 33 female, known my best friend Lisa, 32 female,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: for roughly 15 years. We went through high school and
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: college together. She's always been high energy, slightly self-absorbed, and
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: an immature person. She was formerly my best friend, but
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: when I grew up and Lisa didn't, I made a
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: conscious effort to hang out with her less and only
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: in groups of other close friends. Traveling with Lisa has
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: always been a bear. In 2010, Lisa and I took
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: a trip to LA to visit some friends. This was
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: the first time I had to fly alone with her anywhere.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: For the entire 5 hour flight, there she was, kept
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: pestering me and bothering the man sitting on the other
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: side of her. When we got to the hotel, she
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: tried to say I should pay for the whole hotel
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: room since I arranged the trip first and she only
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: was tagging along. When I didn't let that slide, she
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: suddenly didn't have enough money for food and was eating
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: off of everyone else's plate and begging folks for money.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: That is crazy. Except when it came time to shop
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: for souvenirs. She suddenly had a different credit card out
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: and lots of cash on hand. I promised myself I'd
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: never travel with her again. By the way, this comes
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: from Deleted, and if you want to send me your
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: own stories... Go to the r slash OK Storytime subreddit.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: I'm Riley.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: I'm Savannah.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: And we're going to read this goofily. If you have
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: anything you'd like to add, please add it down below.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: As Opie says, naturally, this promise was broken. Our mutual
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: friend Marge, who Lisa has known for 20 years and
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: I've known for 16, has stage four terminal illness. It
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: was discovered in November of 2015. And since she and
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: her husband have moved out of state, we each wanted
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: to visit her. Since Marge doesn't have the energy to
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: be hosting everyone at once, we agreed to visit her
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: at the same time, which meant I couldn't get out
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: of being on the same plane out and back with
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: her and and sharing a guest room with her oh
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: my gosh lisa 2.0 the revenge is there any ground
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: rules we could do going into this one.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: I don't think she would even follow them. And if
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: you I feel like she would be the person if
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: you called her out, she would be so petty after.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: And she'd be like, oh, well, why would I do
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: that when, you know, you say that I do this
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: a lot. So I'm just not going to do it.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: And it's like, oh, my God, like you can't win
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: with this girl.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: She also seems pretty aloof. She doesn't understand reading a room,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: what's happening. It's really hard to travel with people like that.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: People that will not move out of the way of
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: other people, that gets on my nerves so much. It
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: makes me want to pull my hair out.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: My God, all I do is move out of the
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: way of everyone.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like....
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: Lisa hit a new low. First, she was supposed to
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: arrange transportation with Marge for us from the airport, which
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: is about 45 to 50 minutes away, and there's no shuttle.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: She forgot... And didn't until we were flying out? Marge
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: had asked her cousin, who was also visiting, to get us. Second,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: she started hitting on Marge's husband? Not jokingly flirting, I'm talking, hey!
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: Back when you and Marge were broken up for a
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: few years during and after high school, did you ever
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: consider dating me? She was sitting on his lap, fawning
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: over him. It was clearly making Marge uncomfortable, and her
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: husband and I tried to ask Lisa to stop, but
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: she kept saying, oh, she was only joking. I'm only joking.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: It's in a joking way. I don't mean it, so
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: I'm joking.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: They love throwing us into uncomfortable situations. All right, here
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: we go. Since they were giving us a place to stay,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: I felt it was only right I pay for a
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: few of our collective meals. The first one they grudgingly allowed.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: But when I went to pay for our $ 40 Chinese
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: order one day, Marge and her husband refused to let
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: me give my credit card and wouldn't let me pay
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: cash even when the delivery arrived. I left the money
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: on the kitchen counter, saying it was a gift. Lisa
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: said if they wouldn't take it, she would and stuffed
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: it in her bra. I had to tell her no.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: She seemingly reluctantly gave the money back up and say
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: it was only a joke. It's funny that it's always
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: a joke when no one agrees with you. Now this
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: last part is the most wild. As Marge's energy became
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: more limited, Marge was the happiest spending time at home.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Her husband, her sister, and I tried to make the
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: most of that by bringing the fun to her. I
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: brought some video games and a couple of card games
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: and spent a lot of time laughing, chatting, and enjoying
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: each other's company. Lisa seemed disappointed that we weren't doing
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: more sightseeing, but our focus was on what Marge enjoyed
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: and what made her comfortable. On the day we were
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: getting ready to leave, Marge and I were playing a
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: few games while her sister looked through the takeout options
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: of our final lunch together. Lisa basically threw a temper tantrum,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: turned off Marge's console we were playing a game on,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: and said that we had to do something and couldn't
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: just sit around. It was deplorable behavior on the day
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: when Marge clearly wasn't doing well.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: What is happening?
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: How could she not really actually see what's happening in
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: front of her?
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: Because those people don't. They think because they aren't having fun,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: everyone else must not be having fun. So they are like,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: why are we doing this? Let's go do something else.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: Don't you guys want to do this?
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: And it's like, actually, no, I don't.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: I'm sick and I want to stay in bed.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: When our plane landed, Lisa suddenly said she needed a
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: ride home. I ignored it and started walking to the
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: ground transportation pickup area. My mom had agreed to get me,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: even though it was midnight when we arrived. I saw
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: her car. Told Lisa bye and started walking towards it.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: When I got in, I realized she had followed me,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: opened a rear door, and was getting in. I asked
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: her what she was doing, and she said that my
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: mom could drive her home. Right? She lives 30 minutes
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: away from the airport. I live 5 minutes away in
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: the opposite direction. I started to protest, but my mom
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: was tired and didn't want to fight and agreed. On
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: the ride to drive her back, she started planning our
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: next trip to see Marge. I said, well, we'll see.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: Marge has been having a tough time with treatment lately,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: and she's mentioned to a few of us that she'd
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: love to have some close friends come visit in the
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: coming months. Around the same time, I started to plan
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: a trip to see my cousin, who lives about an
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: hour away from Marge. The timing works out well. I'd
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: fly in, spend a week with my cousin, then spend
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: a week with Marge before heading home. Predictably, Lisa has
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: begun thinking about a trip as well, and has been
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: asking when we're going. I've mentioned my separate plans, but
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: now she's trying to ask exactly when I'm going so
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: she could fly out for the second half of my visit,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: then be on the same flight back. She is, unfortunately,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: one of the people Marge wants to see one last time,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: though Marge confided in me that she doesn't want Lisa
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: there for a full week and has already tried to
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: tell her as much. How do I firmly tell Lisa
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: that I will not go on in-trip with her ever again,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: especially this one, Given that this is a trip to
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: see a passing away friend, I feel like this could
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: turn into another disastrous trip. And it important to mention,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: I've only seen Lisa four times.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: Since this trip.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: We have both ended up at the same Christmas party
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: and two mutual outings with friends. And I was one
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: of the 30 something people who showed up at her
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: birthday party. I am mainly keeping the peace, but not
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: going out of my way to do anything with her
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: since we have a number of mutual friends and Marge
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: is ill too.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: You just gotta tell her at this point, because she's
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: not gonna, she doesn't understand a lot.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: She will not read the room.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's not reading the room, and she also is
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: just not a good person. She's only thinking about herself.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 5: Like, oh my god, when can we go?
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: Because, you know, it's not to see Marge, it's to
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: go do anything but. Update.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: A lot of people say I should immediately cut this
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: nightmare of a person out of my life. I mostly
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: had it at that point, but was not completely cutting
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: until after this was over, so she wouldn't cause drama
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: for people who didn't need it. What I did the
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: day after the post was talk to Marge. She too
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: acknowledged that Lisa is now a terrible person, but she's
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: at a point where she'd like to remember the good times.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: She asked if I could please be there at the
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: same time since Lisa and another friend from our mutual group,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: let's call her Edna, would be in town around the
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: same time. So I agreed. This is about her comfort
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: and happiness, not mine. And you see how OP time
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: and time again is sacrificing her happiness for Marge's comfortness?
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: This is a great friend.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because Marge is going to pass away and you
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: don't want her to... To be uncomfortable or whatever. Like,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: I don't want, if I'm going to pass away, I
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: don't want people I don't enjoy in my company. Sorry,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: call me rude or crazy, but I'd rather be having
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: a party than be sitting there trying to entertain someone
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: who just wants to do what they want to do.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: I arranged my trip so I'd fly to my cousin's airport,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: stay there two days, then she'd drive me to March.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: That way, at least, I wouldn't have to be on
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: the same plane as Lisa. I ended up getting to
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: March's on Wednesday morning. and Edna arrived Wednesday afternoon, Edna
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: Marge and Marge's husband and Marge's sister and I had
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: a wonderful day and evening. Thursday morning, Lisa flew in.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: At first, she was calling for a ride from the airport.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: At the last second, because she didn't think to ask
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: anyone before landing, Marge's husband had just left for work
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: with his car. Marge was asleep, Marge's sister was running
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: a quick errand and there's no car for me to use.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to deal with her so I left
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: it to Edna. Apparently, Lisa was too cheap for a
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: taxi but too afraid to use Uber so she tried
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: to guilt trip us. We both said no. She hung
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: up on Edna. Marge's sister got back maybe 15 minutes
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: later with two of Marge's prescriptions. Lisa called her while
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: she was out but she explained she needed to get
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: the medicines back and needed to be at the house
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: in case Marge needed to be driven somewhere else, so
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: to take a cab and she'd pay for it. Lisa
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: got here, Marge's sister met her at the door and
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: went to pay the cab for her. Edna and I
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: were in the living room and waved while the two
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: of them helloed each other. Lisa sneezed twice during this
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: exchange and said her allergies were really bad. She and
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: Marge's sister went to the cab. Now, I'm not exactly
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: sure what happened in that span, but apparently something happened
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: to make Marge's sister realize Lisa was sick, which is
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: not what anyone sick needs around them. There was yelling
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: for Marge's sister, rightfully so. because a sick, maybe infectious
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: person just hugged one of the two primary caretakers for
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: a very sick woman. Lisa was yelling because she paid
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: for this trip in advance and this was probably her
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: last time seeing Marge. Lisa acted as though she was
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: going to walk into the house and Edna and I
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: both stood on the porch. We told her it wasn't
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: happening and Marge's sister said she needed to leave stay
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: in a hotel, and maybe if she's recovered before she
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: has to fly back in a few days, she can
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: come and see Marge. Lisa claims she doesn't have any
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: money for a hotel, that we were being witches. She
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: said she wanted to see Marge and have her weigh
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: in on the situation. We didn't let that happen and
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: threatened to call Marge's husband if she doesn't immediately get
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: in a cab or an Uber and leave. So, we
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: pretty much left Lisa in the driveway. Holy cow.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: What is wrong with her that she like doesn't get it?
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: It's like, I don't know how many different ways I
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: can explain this but you are being an a-hole Lisa
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: what's wrong with you have some sympathy for the person
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: who is only here for a limited amount of time
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: yeah this is a weird one she could have just
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: been like hey guys I'm a little under the weather.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 4: I don't want to cause any issues.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 5: I'm going to get a separate place for me to
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 5: stay at, but I do want to like meet up
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 5: with you guys sometimes, you know, maybe outdoors or something
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 5: so that we can all like see each other and
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 5: be together for one last time, whatever. That's all. Like
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 5: think of the other people.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: That's it. Just have some empathy.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: Marge's sister asked us to bring her some hand sanitizer
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: and her phone and stayed outside. Marge's sister called Marge's
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: husband to report what happened. Lisa's phone call wasn't to
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: a cab company, but to wake up Marge and try
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: and guilt trip her way in. Marge told her that
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: she can't see her or let her stay with her
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: when she's sick and possibly contagious. Marge also said she
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: had to tell Lisa she wasn't paying for a hotel
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: for her. At this point, Marge's sister was almost afraid
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: to go back into the house. She's worried she could
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: be contaminated. And after talking to Marge's husband, she texted
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: to make sure arrangements to stay with one of her
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: cousins for a few days was a precautionary. We waited
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: to be sure Lisa does get into a cab or
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: an Uber and left. Marge's sister packed back while I
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: got a cab to take me to a car rental place.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: So it turned into Edna and I visiting with Marge.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: Marge's sister ended up being okay. She's here all the
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: time and deserved a three-day break breather anyway. What are
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: you doing with Lisa though at this point? Just telling
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: her to leave?
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: I'd be like, hey, we can meet up if you're
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: feeling okay, but let's just kind of stay outside.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: I missed the beginning. Did Lisa know before booking the
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: trip she was sick? If not, other arrangements should have
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: been made for her if she was supposed to stay there.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: I think she knew she was sick and still got
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: on the plane to see Marge. Lisa tried texting Marge
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: and her husband a few times. Marge's husband was handling
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: all communications with her. Apparently, she tried to say she
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: was better over a text the day before her flight home,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: but wouldn't actually talk on the phone, so we all
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: figured she was still unwell. I haven't heard from Lisa since.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: From what I've heard, Edna Marge and Marge's sister haven't either.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: Marge and her sister are both upset about the situation.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: It was a lovely trip, aside from this momentary drama, though. Ugh,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: that's crazy. Well, guys, that's the end of that story.