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Credlin | 23 July · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krandler live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good Eve being welcome to the program. Here's what's coming
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Speaker 2: up tonight on Kredlin Formalities out of the way. The
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Speaker 2: secret term of the Albanezer government got underway today, really
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Speaker 2: got underway. A fiery question time at two o'clock with
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Speaker 2: the PM and his ministers saying they're ready to prosecute
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Speaker 2: a sprawling legislative agenda. And that's shock in Elsis today too.
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Speaker 2: That shows more than fifty percent of voters now rely
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Speaker 2: on the government as their main source of income.
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Speaker 3: That is just not sustainable.
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Speaker 2: One day in we've already got leadership speculation inside the
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Speaker 2: Nationals after former leader Michael McCormack back to Private Members
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Speaker 2: bill from his old foe Barnaby Joyce aimed at repealing
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Speaker 2: that zero will speak with Michael McCormack coming out. Plus,
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Speaker 2: new figures reveal the number of asylum seekers have had
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Speaker 2: their application rejected but remain in Australia. It's set to
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Speaker 2: surpass one hundred thousand. So what's again doing to deport them?
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Speaker 2: And today the preview of a new documentary which shares
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Speaker 2: the stories of several Victorian farmers for being impacted by
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Speaker 2: the state's renewables role at You will not believe there's
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Speaker 2: stories of heartbreak.
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Speaker 1: Up to this point.
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Speaker 4: I don't feel like I have been consulted at all.
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Speaker 5: All Victorians should be an all Australian should be really
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Speaker 5: concerned about this.
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Speaker 6: It makes me feel sick in the guts that they
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Speaker 6: can come over here and just put a ruler across
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Speaker 6: a map and say we're going there.
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Speaker 3: It's a brilliant doc.
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Speaker 2: I've got water to show tonight, But first on the
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Speaker 2: whole general issue of net zero. Make no mistake, the
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Speaker 2: net zero fight now brewing inside the Liberal National Coalition
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Speaker 2: is going to be bruising, but it's the much needed
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Speaker 2: beginning of the coalition's march back to credibility as a
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Speaker 2: serious alternative government. And it's also its best chance of
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Speaker 2: winning the next election. For all their multiple reviews that
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Speaker 2: won't report back for many, many months, the debate about
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Speaker 2: net zero can't be put off because the government's new
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Speaker 2: emissions reduction targets for twenty thirty five are not far
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Speaker 2: off being released. And it's these targets that are really
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Speaker 2: going to upend our economy. In particular, they will hit
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Speaker 2: hard our transport and agricultural sectors in a way the
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Speaker 2: few Australians can really comprehend, and certainly in ways that
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Speaker 2: most of you never voted for. This is why the
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Speaker 2: former Deputy PM Barnaby Joyce's flagged the introduction of a
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Speaker 2: private member's bill to repeal Australia's net zero legislation, because
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Speaker 2: we do not have the luxury of waiting for the
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Speaker 2: Liberal Party's naval gazing review to find a landing point. Now,
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Speaker 2: this is a shrewd move by Joyce. Yes, under the rules,
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Speaker 2: his private member's bill will only get debated and voted
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Speaker 2: upon if the Albanizi government gives it legislative priority. Now,
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Speaker 2: on the face of it, that's highly unlikely, unless the
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Speaker 2: government's tacticians decide it would heighten divisions inside.
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Speaker 3: The coalition, which they may well do.
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Speaker 2: But at the very least understanding coalition joint Party Room procedure,
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Speaker 2: any backbench MP is seeking to introduce a private members
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Speaker 2: build as this is well, they're obliged to bring it
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Speaker 2: before the party room as a courtesy, if not to
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Speaker 2: seek approval now, as is the ability of any leader.
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Speaker 2: Susan Lee could then move to close down discussion of
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Speaker 2: the topic after Joyce speaks to his Bill inside the room.
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Speaker 2: But given the strong view of a growing number of
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Speaker 2: Liberal and National MPs a net zero's economic suicide for
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Speaker 2: our country, plus the growing anger and regional Australia against
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Speaker 2: the desecration of our countryside and our best farming land
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Speaker 2: by these forests of wind turbines and these vast planes
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Speaker 2: of solar panels, shutting down debate would be a career
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Speaker 2: limiting move, particularly when you acknowledge that this is Susan
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Speaker 2: Lee with fewer numbers in the party room now than
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Speaker 2: when she beat Angus Taylor. She's lost two senators and
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Speaker 2: she's lost the Bradfield liberal Giselle kept Terrian, so our
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Speaker 2: numbers are down.
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Speaker 3: It's pretty tight.
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Speaker 2: Almost certainly Lee will conclude that she's got no other
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Speaker 2: option than to let the debate happen inside the party room.
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Speaker 2: That we push back, of course from tearly typed liberals
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Speaker 2: who say they're electric zinc, that we've got a climate
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Speaker 2: crisis and net zero is needed to save the planet.
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Speaker 2: Eventually Lee will say, well, we've got a policy review underway.
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Speaker 2: You can hear us say it now, can't you. So
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Speaker 2: we've got to wait for that to report before we
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Speaker 2: come to a final position. Here's where it's interesting the
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Speaker 2: National Party that are going to let her have that luxury,
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Speaker 2: because there is no luxury of time with Labours even
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Speaker 2: harsher twenty thirty five targets due out in a matter
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Speaker 2: of months and demands today from people like billionaire Twiggy Foreat.
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Speaker 2: These new targets deliver a whopping seventy five percent cut
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Speaker 2: to emissions. Barnaby Joy's former minister Back Canavan and fellow
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Speaker 2: former Deputy PM Michael McCormack, well, they're all on a
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Speaker 2: unity ticket that net zero's got to go, and they
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Speaker 2: might be called the elder statesmen, and Canavan's on.
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Speaker 3: The back bench. It's called generational.
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Speaker 2: Change for some. But these three are the best campaigners
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Speaker 2: that the NATS have. And just like the National Party
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Speaker 2: did on the Voice where just Enterprice led the party
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Speaker 2: to say no, when then the Nats led the Limbs
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Speaker 2: to say no and the Voice then went from sixty
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Speaker 2: percent support to a sixty percent rejection, that acts are
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Speaker 2: likely to force this issue into prominence. Now I might
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Speaker 2: add here too, there's a growing feeling inside the Liberal
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Speaker 2: Party as well as the NATS that the only way
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Speaker 2: to end own country's economic decline is to stop imposing
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Speaker 2: extra energy costs on ourselves that the big emitters won't do,
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Speaker 2: and all of it totally futile bid to reflect the
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Speaker 2: climate from Australia. So the teerly Libs persuade Susan Lee
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Speaker 2: to stand firm against the Nats. Not only could the
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Speaker 2: coalition break, but they'd almost certainly be resignations from the
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Speaker 2: Liberal front bench, quite possibly Nats even running against Liberals
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Speaker 2: at the next election. Of course, in the short term
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Speaker 2: the Libs of the Nats, they'll make a spectacle of
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Speaker 2: themselves and possibly suffer a further hit in the polls,
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Speaker 2: although I don't know how it could get much worse
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Speaker 2: sitting there on twenty nine percent primary. But just as
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Speaker 2: Liberal parties internal convulsions over Kevin Rudd's emissions trading scheme
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Speaker 2: back then eventually produced a new leader and ultimately brought
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Speaker 2: the Coalition back to government in a landslide, this is
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Speaker 2: a fight they simply must have now. Sure, many decent
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Speaker 2: Libs will decry the division, some will say they'll resign
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Speaker 2: from the party. Possibly some so called moderately Libs will
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Speaker 2: resign from the front bench if net Zero's dropped like
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Speaker 2: Julian Lisa did when the Leaves decided to oppose the Voice.
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Speaker 2: But politics, in the end is a contest of ideas,
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Speaker 2: and the Liberal Party's big problem the last election was
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Speaker 2: that they did not create a contest. They didn't fight
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Speaker 2: four the nuclear policy, and they certainly didn't fight against
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Speaker 2: Labour's unrealized capital gains tax. In the end, all they
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Speaker 2: stood for was a tempera cut to petrol. Well fair enough,
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Speaker 2: but not enough to change the government. And before the
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Speaker 2: political breeze, sniffers and center huggers have conniptions about taking
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Speaker 2: unnecessary risks.
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Speaker 3: Remember this.
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Speaker 2: Every single time the Libs have made a fight of
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Speaker 2: climate and energy and turn it into an economic issue,
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Speaker 2: they have done well.
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Speaker 3: In twenty ten, they.
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Speaker 2: Reduced a first term government to minority status. In twenty thirteen,
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Speaker 2: they wanted a landslide. In twenty nineteen they had that
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Speaker 2: miracle win. And every time they have need to labor
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Speaker 2: by treating this as a moral issue, or they're done
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Speaker 2: pretty badly. Barnaby Joyce is doing the party, his party,
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Speaker 2: the coalition and the country a great service by bringing
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Speaker 2: on this necessary fight, I mean, finally, a real debate
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Speaker 2: about a real policy issue that impacts the lives of
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Speaker 2: every one of us and the very.
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Speaker 3: Future of our country. About time.
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Speaker 2: That's got to camp it out, the headlines sky News
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Speaker 2: political reporter Rubert Spargo.
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Speaker 7: It's back to business in Parliament and the government is
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Speaker 7: pressing ahead with its policy agenda, starting with higher education.
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Speaker 7: The first bill to hit the floor and pass in
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Speaker 7: the Law House was a Labor election promise on student
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Speaker 7: debt relief. It now heads to the Senate, where it's
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Speaker 7: expected to become law next week. The Minister for Education
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Speaker 7: also introduced legislation to strength and safety in childcare centers.
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Speaker 2: It's not everything, There's a lot more that needs to
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Speaker 2: be done.
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Speaker 8: I can't think of many issues in my time in
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Speaker 8: this Parliament that have made me feel as physically sick
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Speaker 8: as this one has.
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Speaker 7: Centers that fail safety standards could lose federal funding after
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Speaker 7: just one breach. The Treasurer is refusing to rule out
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Speaker 7: imposing taxes on unrealized capital gains beyond Labour's controversial superannuation reforms.
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Speaker 7: The Coalition seized on the issue during question time.
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Speaker 9: The Member for Fairfax on Sunday said rule nothing out
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Speaker 9: by Wednesday.
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Speaker 4: He couldn't stick to the same position.
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Speaker 7: The Government's lacks Senate support for the superannuation proposal in
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Speaker 7: its current form. The Low House will operate differently this
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Speaker 7: term as the Government implements rule changes. The Speaker can
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Speaker 7: now eject unruly MPs from debates for up to three hours,
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Speaker 7: tripling the current maximum penalty. There are also updates to
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Speaker 7: how votes are recorded. If fewer than six MPs vote
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Speaker 7: a certain way, the majorities names will no longer be listed,
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Speaker 7: the minorities will. Ruben Spargo, Sky News Canberra.
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Speaker 2: We can see that they're pretty busy. Day in camera
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Speaker 2: gloves of first question time of the term. Jot I
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Speaker 2: mean now senior porter Callen Marcus, national affairs editor at
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Speaker 2: the Telegraph, scan his host, of course, James Morrow.
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Speaker 3: Welcome to you both. James. Let's kick up with question time.
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Speaker 3: I want to pick up.
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Speaker 2: Those changes to the standing orders with the opposition now
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Speaker 2: lucky to get five questions a day, assuming, of course,
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Speaker 2: there's an average of eighteen questions in the pack, a
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Speaker 2: little bit more today, but let's call it eighteen. It
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Speaker 2: wasn't that long ago that the Coalition and Labor Labor's
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Speaker 2: Dorothy Dixon's of course, split the questions fifty to fifty.
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Speaker 2: So this is an opposition that's absolutely newed. I mean,
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Speaker 2: they've had the cuts to their staffing ranks, but now
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Speaker 2: they've had their questions in the chamber basically halved.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, and I think that it's just another decline. I
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Speaker 10: think Peter in the ritual of question time as a
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Speaker 10: means to hold the government to account, whoever the government
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Speaker 10: of the day is. You know, people have been complaining
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Speaker 10: about this for years that the quality of debate in
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Speaker 10: the questions without notes has been going downhill now with
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Speaker 10: the opposition only getting really as you say, five because
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Speaker 10: some are going to those cross benchers now and those
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Speaker 10: standing orders have changed. Plus the decline in the staffing
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Speaker 10: allowances that the Albanezy government.
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Speaker 1: Has allowed them.
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Speaker 10: You know, both of these things combined, I think they
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Speaker 10: actually show Peter a real weakness on the part of labor.
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Speaker 10: You know, they are convinced that they have this huge mandate,
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Speaker 10: this huge, massive majority in Parliament, although not a great
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Speaker 10: huge majority in the popular vote, must be said, and
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Speaker 10: it seems to me like they're kind of running scared
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Speaker 10: a bit from the debate when they do things like this,
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Speaker 10: when they cut the number of questions the opposition gets
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Speaker 10: when they cut the staffing. Why not have what you
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Speaker 10: were talking about in your editorial, that contest of ideas,
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Speaker 10: because if you care about Australia, then what you care
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Speaker 10: about is making sure that the best ideas come out
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Speaker 10: of that crucible of democracy.
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Speaker 3: And I watched.
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Speaker 2: British question time Prime Minister's questions. It's once a week.
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Speaker 2: I think it's a good use of the PM's time.
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Speaker 2: But the PM is there in the hot seat and
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Speaker 2: the questions have rhetoricals, They come back with secondary questions,
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Speaker 2: follow up all the time. There's nowhere to hide. I think,
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Speaker 2: you know, rather than new to question time in Australia
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Speaker 2: like they have done, they should have it started with
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Speaker 2: a blank sheet of paper and maybe consider a different
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Speaker 2: way of doing it like they do in the UK.
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Speaker 3: How do you think the.
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Speaker 2: Opposition went Susan Lee's first hit out Caroline, which you.
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Speaker 3: Think, well, look, they got a few hits that.
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Speaker 11: Most of their questions were on super tax. That's what
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Speaker 11: the opposition seemed to focus on today. And you know
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Speaker 11: there were a couple of times they seemed to land
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Speaker 11: hits on the government where they asked about whether there
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Speaker 11: was any potential to tax unrealized capital gains beyond super annuation.
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Speaker 11: The Treasurer of Jim Chalmers and the Prime Minister Anthony
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Speaker 11: Albanezi wouldn't answer that those questions. But I think that
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Speaker 11: the Opposition has a bigger problem than just this, Like
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Speaker 11: you only have to look at a poll that was
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Speaker 11: done by the Daily Telegraph yesterday which found not one
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Speaker 11: single person out of one hundred people that were polls
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Speaker 11: even recognized the current opposition leader, Susan Lee. So I
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Speaker 11: don't think it matters what she does in question time,
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Speaker 11: how she performs, she just doesn't have that recognition. And
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Speaker 11: don't forget she's been there for twenty four years, so
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Speaker 11: since two thousand and one as a Federal parliament member.
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Speaker 11: And I've done a lot of these street poles and
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Speaker 11: these vox pops. They are always a good reality check
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Speaker 11: as to how disengage a lot of us Brilians.
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Speaker 3: Really are politically.
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Speaker 11: But zero out of one hundred, in fact, more than
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Speaker 11: a third of people thought she was actually a mining
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Speaker 11: magnet that didn't even realize.
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Speaker 3: She was a politician.
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Speaker 11: So I think she's got serious problems. She need somethink
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Speaker 11: beyond question time in terms of how she's going to
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Speaker 11: raise her profile after such a long time in politics.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, quarter of a century in politics and zero out
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Speaker 2: of one hundred people on the street.
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Speaker 3: Who she was. Yes, got big job ahead of her.
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Speaker 2: Just quickly that that motion from the Green's deputy wasn't
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Speaker 2: a motion, it was a stunt. Green's Deputy leader Marine Farouki.
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Speaker 2: Yesterday she held up this sign. I think I've got
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Speaker 2: a picture of it. Their breach of standing orders today
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Speaker 2: labeled with the support of the Coalition. They've passed a
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Speaker 2: discipline motion against her. This means she'll not be able
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Speaker 2: to represent the Senate as part of any parliamentary delegation
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Speaker 2: support Old Marine now overseas trips for her for the
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Speaker 2: entire next three years. I know someone think it's harsh,
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Speaker 2: but I think if you want to be rebel and
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Speaker 2: you want to be a protester, go out the front
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Speaker 2: of Parliament House. But when you've got a seat in
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Speaker 2: the Parliament, get off your backside, make a speech, make
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Speaker 2: an intelligent contribution, do the work. Basically, don't deploy lazy
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Speaker 2: stunts like that.
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Speaker 3: Caroline exactly.
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Speaker 11: I don't think it was harsh at all. I don't
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Speaker 11: want this kind of person representing Australia on the international
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Speaker 11: stage when it comes to politicians. I don't want people
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Speaker 11: out there thinking this is representative of what we are
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Speaker 11: like here and have some respect for your fellow colleagues
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Speaker 11: in Parliament and in the Senate not to pull stunts
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Speaker 11: like this, but Marine Feruki has become the queen of
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Speaker 11: the stunt. I mean this isn't her first offense either.
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Speaker 11: She has previously disrupted the Senate by calling chance of
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Speaker 11: Free Free Palestine in during the last home of Parliament.
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Speaker 11: I mean this sign that she's holding up your note
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Speaker 11: that it doesn't condemn her Maas or have anything to
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Speaker 11: say about HAMAS and its responsibility for the misery that
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Speaker 11: it's imposed on its people. She's not been able to
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Speaker 11: condemn Hamas and interviews that she's done previously. She's been
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Speaker 11: pictured and posted photos next to a protester holding a
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Speaker 11: sign of Jews going in the bin.
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Speaker 3: She later apologized for that.
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Speaker 11: I didn't buy it, and this is someone who has form, Peter,
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Speaker 11: so I'm glad to see.
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Speaker 2: That it's give her any more airtime. Yeah, good idea,
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Speaker 2: give her any more your time, Move on, Move on.
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Speaker 2: A stats today out from the Center for independent Studies
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Speaker 2: James That reports that more than fifty percent of people
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Speaker 2: now rely on the government for most of their income.
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Speaker 2: NAS the biggest culporate here at fifty two billion dollars
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Speaker 2: a year. That costs our budget. But across the board
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Speaker 2: there's been this surge in government expenditure over the last
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Speaker 2: twelve years. Robert Carling, who did this research, says, well, well,
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Speaker 2: in our way to becoming in a European style welfare state. Now,
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Speaker 2: sure enough, it's unsustainable, we get that, right, But who
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Speaker 2: in camera is going to have a backbone and start
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Speaker 2: to have the conversation with Australian voters. They're going to
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Speaker 2: have to start taking things off people, right, Not just
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Speaker 2: reduce spending because that doesn't sound painless, That sounds painless,
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Speaker 2: but actually take things off people that that requires political
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Speaker 2: courage Shames.
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Speaker 10: Well, yeah it does. And you know, I've been thinking
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Speaker 10: a lot about this because it goes to the heart
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Speaker 10: of something I think we've spoken about before, and I
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Speaker 10: speak a lot about, which is idea and people have
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Speaker 10: had this in politics for centuries, about democracy and that
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Speaker 10: democracy can really only last peta as long as people
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Speaker 10: are you know, not trying to just simply vote themselves
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Speaker 10: largest from the public purse. And that's essentially what Labor
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Speaker 10: and the Albanza government have done here. They've created a
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Speaker 10: majority of people who are now on the government hook
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Speaker 10: one way or the other. I think though, that in
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Speaker 10: the long run, you know, the real way through for
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Speaker 10: the coalition year, because they're the ones who are going
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Speaker 10: to have to clean this up, is actually going to
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Speaker 10: have to be generational and they are going to have to,
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Speaker 10: I think, start with young people and convince young people,
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Speaker 10: young voters that their future is being crueled by the
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Speaker 10: fact that the economy is now so weighted towards giving
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Speaker 10: other generations stuff out of their pockets. Because they're going
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Speaker 10: to be only productive people that they're going to demand, demand, change,
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Speaker 10: and demand, you know, that the energies of their generation,
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Speaker 10: of the end of the Australian economy be released. And
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Speaker 10: we've been through this before. We've been through this, you know,
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Speaker 10: in the hot Keating Howard years. We're going to have
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Speaker 10: to go through it again. It's certainly not going to
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Speaker 10: be Labor or Jim Chalmers doing this. Even though he
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Speaker 10: apparently wrote his thesis about about Paul Keating, I don't
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Speaker 10: think he quite got the message.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to that story in Melbourne that just does
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Speaker 2: not go away. Police have alleged that the accused Melbourn pedophile,
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Speaker 2: Joshua Brown, committed eighteen sexual crimes against children in his
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Speaker 2: care in just one day. This is at the same
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Speaker 2: time that the twenty six year olds court dates being
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Speaker 2: postponed until February next year. Victoria Police they want more
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Speaker 2: investigation time. So while all of this is going on,
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Speaker 2: we've got the government introducing legislation it will strip funding
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Speaker 2: from centers at file safety requirements. Well, they can already
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Speaker 2: do that, so I say, this is window dressing. They're
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Speaker 2: going to authorize unannounced spot inspections should be happening anyway,
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Speaker 2: and deny expansions or new approvals to senders that don't
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Speaker 2: meet standards.
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Speaker 3: I get. I'm surprised they can't do this anyway.
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Speaker 2: As I say, Caroline, this is window dressing. As far
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Speaker 2: as I'm concerned. If they were fed income, the people
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Speaker 2: wouldn't have six days. In China, he would have called
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Speaker 2: a national cabinet. A lot of this falls between the
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Speaker 2: states and the Commonwealth. A lot of the Crimes Act
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Speaker 2: stuff happens obviously at state level that have all the
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Speaker 2: premiers around the table that agree to pass their legislation,
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Speaker 2: and the premier in Victoria, she'd have the parliament back,
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Speaker 2: she'd immediately convene the parliament from leave and say we
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Speaker 2: need to fix this mess in Victoria.
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Speaker 3: So why aren't they doing any of that?
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Speaker 11: I simply don't understand it either, Peter. And as the
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Speaker 11: mother of two young kids who uses childcare while I'm
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Speaker 11: at work part time, it makes me so angry and
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Speaker 11: upset to see that this isn't the national and state
19:48
Speaker 11: priority that it needs to be. What is more important
19:51
Speaker 11: that making sure our children are safe? And frankly, it
19:54
Speaker 11: beggars belief that a lot of these measures aren't already
19:58
Speaker 11: in place, and others like an national register, like ensuring
20:01
Speaker 11: people workers who are under suspicion or investigation of abuse
20:07
Speaker 11: are not allowed to continue operating incentives, as the Herald
20:11
Speaker 11: Son has revealed was the case, and at least one
20:14
Speaker 11: instance of another person who was under investigation. I mean,
20:17
Speaker 11: they can take years to go through the courts and
20:20
Speaker 11: for a prosecution to happen, So how can they go
20:22
Speaker 11: anywhere near our children once there's any sort of level
20:25
Speaker 11: of suspicion around them?
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Speaker 3: And I thought a point that you raised recently.
20:29
Speaker 11: In a column where you said that the centers themselves
20:32
Speaker 11: should be held criminally liable if anything should happen in them,
20:35
Speaker 11: because there has to.
20:36
Speaker 3: Be serious failures.
20:38
Speaker 11: If these people can be even left alone with children
20:41
Speaker 11: to be able to abuse them, then then I completely
20:44
Speaker 11: agree with that too, and I wonder how that's not
20:46
Speaker 11: the case. But I think we also need to have
20:48
Speaker 11: a broader conversation about whether center based care is what's
20:52
Speaker 11: best for very young children who can't even speak yet,
20:55
Speaker 11: and whether we are putting too much pressure on young
20:58
Speaker 11: women where men on mothers to go back to the
21:02
Speaker 11: workforce to contribute to the economy instead of supporting them
21:05
Speaker 11: to raise their families when they're still young. I think
21:07
Speaker 11: we need to look at that as well.
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Speaker 3: Spot On, you'll be pleased now.
21:12
Speaker 2: I hit all of those points tomorrow in my column
21:14
Speaker 2: in The Australia. James, just quickly this Epstein pace, it's
21:19
Speaker 2: evolving by the day. If there's nothing to say here,
21:23
Speaker 2: why not just release the whole file?
21:26
Speaker 10: Well, yeah, look, I think that's exactly what's going to
21:29
Speaker 10: need to happen here, because for as long as Donald
21:30
Speaker 10: Trump looks like he's being shifty about it. It becomes
21:33
Speaker 10: a distraction from the story that he's trying to tell,
21:35
Speaker 10: which is the one of Democrat corruption in the Obama
21:38
Speaker 10: White House, utilizing the FBI and the DOJ to essentially
21:42
Speaker 10: mount a bureaucratic cup against him in his first term
21:45
Speaker 10: of office. The sooner he gets us off the table
21:47
Speaker 10: by ripping the band it off. I don't know what's
21:49
Speaker 10: in there. I suspect the real story is much more
21:51
Speaker 10: about money than it is about pedophilia. But we shall see.
21:55
Speaker 10: And I think as long as he allows us to
21:57
Speaker 10: hang over his head, we're going to wind up with
21:59
Speaker 10: all of these sort of bizarre, our conspiracy distractions stopping
22:02
Speaker 10: him from getting on with all of the different jobs
22:04
Speaker 10: he's trying to do.
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Speaker 3: Not wrong. I'll live it there. Thank you both.
22:09
Speaker 2: Now to the big political news story of the day,
22:11
Speaker 2: The News the format. Deputy PM and Nationals Leader Michael
22:14
Speaker 2: McCormick will also back Barnaby Joyce's Private member's bill to
22:18
Speaker 2: repeal net zero, so two former NETS leaders to former
22:22
Speaker 2: obviously deputy prime ministers, and is also refusing to rule
22:25
Speaker 2: out another tilt of the leadership. He cares that much
22:28
Speaker 2: about the Net zero issue I'm pleased to say the
22:30
Speaker 2: man in question, the Member for Riverena, joins me. Now, Michael,
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Speaker 2: welcome to the program. I mean you fously were an
22:37
Speaker 2: advocate for net zero. Why the change of heart.
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Speaker 1: Well, i'll tell you why, Peter.
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Speaker 9: Back in late twenty twenty one, when the National Party
22:48
Speaker 9: voted to accept and adopt a net zero policy along
22:51
Speaker 9: with the Liberal Party, we were having trade difficulties with China.
22:56
Speaker 9: We were still in the COVID situation. China had put
22:59
Speaker 9: up barriers. We were trying to diversify our trade interests, therefore.
23:02
Speaker 1: Going to Europe.
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Speaker 9: Many of those arrangements were conditional on the fact that
23:07
Speaker 9: Australia had to have net zero as a policy part
23:10
Speaker 9: of its policy suite, and so for the river and
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Speaker 9: the farmers I represent, I went along with the net
23:16
Speaker 9: zero situation because I wanted to have that trade.
23:19
Speaker 1: But times have changed and the.
23:21
Speaker 9: World has moved on, and the situation now I have
23:24
Speaker 9: in my electorate, Peter, and you've got to stick up
23:26
Speaker 9: for those people who send you to Canberra. As you know,
23:28
Speaker 9: the situation is, we've got the countryside being littered with
23:32
Speaker 9: wind towers and we've got a proposal between bounding and
23:35
Speaker 9: buy and along idyllic, peaceful places to put ninety two
23:39
Speaker 9: hundred and sixty meter tall wind towers.
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Speaker 1: This is just madness.
23:44
Speaker 9: And we've got right across the electric indeed, right across
23:47
Speaker 9: regional Australia, Spibbs and shisters coming in, often representing international conglomerates,
23:53
Speaker 9: trying to sign up one person, not signing up the next.
23:57
Speaker 9: They're dividing families, They're ruining friendships that have lond to generations.
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Speaker 1: It's not right and I won't stand for it.
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Speaker 3: I love to hear this.
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Speaker 2: I absolutely love to hear this because my viewers when
24:08
Speaker 2: I've been being on about this for about eighteen months
24:10
Speaker 2: and emaware about it.
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Speaker 3: Buying a longa farmer there, I spoke to her this week.
24:13
Speaker 2: I went up to Witcherproof and across in the Broader
24:16
Speaker 2: Malley and I met with your colleague and Webster. She
24:19
Speaker 2: was fantastic and Webster's she was out there fighting for
24:22
Speaker 2: her community. So this should be top of mind for
24:25
Speaker 2: conservative side of politics. It should be front and center
24:28
Speaker 2: in the Parliament. And the other thing I said at
24:30
Speaker 2: the top of the show that relates to all of
24:31
Speaker 2: this is it's not just net zero twenty fifty. It's
24:35
Speaker 2: the fact that these twenty thirty five targets, which I'm
24:38
Speaker 2: told you're going to see by the end of the year,
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Speaker 2: the twenty thirty five targets are predicated on net zero
24:43
Speaker 2: twenty fifty, and that's where agriculture is going to be
24:46
Speaker 2: hit really hard. Now, do you think enough Australians who
24:49
Speaker 2: voted back in May understand what's about to come?
24:56
Speaker 9: Oh, if you asked a lot of them, they wouldn't
24:57
Speaker 9: know what net zero actually even means. What we're going
25:00
Speaker 9: to see is a situation where it's just going to
25:04
Speaker 9: be impossible to manufacture things in Australia. I heard a
25:07
Speaker 9: lot of interviews by a lot of politicians today, but
25:09
Speaker 9: the one word that they didn't mention Peter was affordability.
25:12
Speaker 9: And there are a lot of people in city areas
25:14
Speaker 9: who can't afford their heating bills this winter and it's
25:18
Speaker 9: a very cold winter. We've got pensioners out there who
25:21
Speaker 9: can't afford to put the heaters on because of this,
25:25
Speaker 9: the unaffordable power bills. Now, we had a prime minister
25:28
Speaker 9: prior to twenty twenty two when he wanted to become
25:30
Speaker 9: the prime minister, talking ninety seven Times about the fact
25:33
Speaker 9: that he was going to reduce the power bills by
25:34
Speaker 9: two hundred and seventy five dollars. Not quite sure where
25:37
Speaker 9: that money went, but this is just madness. And Chris
25:39
Speaker 9: Baren wants to talk about Tinder accounts and carry on like.
25:43
Speaker 1: A pork chopping in question time today. You know they're serious.
25:47
Speaker 1: They're not serious and it was totally embarrassing.
25:51
Speaker 9: And let me tell you if I don't have a
25:54
Speaker 9: Tinder account, but if I did, it'd have a lot
25:55
Speaker 9: more interest than Chris Bowen's.
25:57
Speaker 1: Quite frankly, I don't want to go there.
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Speaker 3: Please, we'll just leave that one alone.
26:02
Speaker 1: But talk to me about probably best.
26:05
Speaker 2: To bits that came out from people the twiggy forest.
26:08
Speaker 2: Today he's leading a coalition of business leaders, mostly of
26:12
Speaker 2: left leading companies. I've got to say it's called Business
26:14
Speaker 2: for seventy five campaign. He wants the government to make
26:17
Speaker 2: even steeper cuts to emissions. He wants a seventy five
26:21
Speaker 2: percent cut, and was out there with a Prime minister
26:24
Speaker 2: in China.
26:25
Speaker 3: He was flogging this horse today. What would you say
26:27
Speaker 3: to that?
26:30
Speaker 9: Ah, Well, look we've got twiggy forests, we've got Simon
26:32
Speaker 9: Hames at court I mean.
26:35
Speaker 1: They're able to pay their power bills, but there's a
26:37
Speaker 1: lot of people who cannot.
26:39
Speaker 9: We've got twenty nine, five hundred and twenty one businesses
26:42
Speaker 9: small businesses which went to the wall in the first
26:44
Speaker 9: three years of the Labor government Peter Now a lot
26:47
Speaker 9: of those, in the quarter of them were construction companies.
26:49
Speaker 9: Simply couldn't pay their power bills. They couldn't pay the
26:52
Speaker 9: energy costs. We should be a country, We've got so
26:55
Speaker 9: many resources, we should be absolutely having the cheapest power
26:59
Speaker 9: in the world, and unfortunately we haven't, and we're slugging people.
27:03
Speaker 1: We're slugging farmers, factories. It's just a nonsense.
27:08
Speaker 9: And then we expect to be able to tone down
27:11
Speaker 9: the climate and change the temperatures of the planet.
27:15
Speaker 1: What from Canberra through a policy.
27:18
Speaker 9: No, what we're doing is we're ruining people's lives right
27:21
Speaker 9: across the river Inda, their livelihoods bounding by and long,
27:24
Speaker 9: Maxwell mangapla the rock you're and Quinti Gregor do I
27:28
Speaker 9: mean I could name you so many places Crookwell where
27:31
Speaker 9: they want to put in the solar factories, wind turbines, and.
27:36
Speaker 1: The local people aren't just they're not going to cop
27:38
Speaker 1: it anymore. They're simply not Peter.
27:42
Speaker 3: You've been the spine.
27:44
Speaker 2: The National Party has been the spine for the Libs
27:46
Speaker 2: on a couple of big issues, the voices obviously clearly.
27:49
Speaker 3: One of those.
27:50
Speaker 2: If you don't get movement, if the Nationals decide that
27:53
Speaker 2: you will oppose net zero, but the Libs don't come
27:57
Speaker 2: with you, and they try and force you into a
27:58
Speaker 2: position where that's just non negotiable, what do you do?
28:02
Speaker 3: Do you split the coalition? Do you walk away?
28:04
Speaker 2: You're happy to have the fight, and if your leader
28:07
Speaker 2: won't come with you, are you going to take on
28:09
Speaker 2: your leader?
28:11
Speaker 9: Look, I wouldn't like to see that again. And look,
28:13
Speaker 9: and I haven't said that I'm challenging David a little proud,
28:16
Speaker 9: I'm not. All I've says is that I'm just not
28:18
Speaker 9: going to put a red line through a name forevermore.
28:20
Speaker 1: I mean, that would be stupid because you just never
28:22
Speaker 1: know what might happen.
28:23
Speaker 9: But this is going to be We've got a process
28:26
Speaker 9: in place, and Matt Canavan is going to have a
28:28
Speaker 9: part to say in that. Dan Tillion is as well.
28:30
Speaker 9: We'll see where that takes us. I know Barnaby's got
28:32
Speaker 9: his private members Bill, and I support that. I've read it,
28:36
Speaker 9: and I haven't done forever though that happens, but you know, no,
28:40
Speaker 9: I appreciate.
28:41
Speaker 1: Result next week.
28:42
Speaker 2: So you've got twenty thirty five targets bearing down on you,
28:45
Speaker 2: and they're bearing down hardp.
28:47
Speaker 1: Yep, yep.
28:48
Speaker 9: So let's see where the next few weeks and months takes,
28:51
Speaker 9: as Peter, and hopefully there'll be some good movement in
28:54
Speaker 9: this space. I know there are a lot of Liberal
28:55
Speaker 9: Party members who genuinely think that net zero is a croc.
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Speaker 3: Yep. I agree with that.
29:01
Speaker 2: I agree with that, and I think that we're cheering
29:03
Speaker 2: you tonight to find finally, finally, finally, there's some sensus
29:07
Speaker 2: fighting the dog that you are prepared to do something
29:10
Speaker 2: more than just me, too labor in some of these areas,
29:12
Speaker 2: And congratulations to you and too Barnaby for at least
29:16
Speaker 2: putting the debate front and center.
29:17
Speaker 3: For the coalition. Thank you, Michael.
29:19
Speaker 2: All right, after break, I'm going to give you a
29:21
Speaker 2: preview of that brilliant doco. It's about the practical reality
29:25
Speaker 2: of net zero. I don't want you either miss it.
29:27
Speaker 2: Bluss James Ashby. He's going to explain why all the
29:29
Speaker 2: one nation Senators turn their backs during an acknowledgment of country.
29:39
Speaker 3: We'll go back.
29:39
Speaker 2: Almost one hundred thousand people have now we improve it
29:42
Speaker 2: not to be refugees. Yet they refuse to leave Australia
29:46
Speaker 2: and the federal government's doing very little to deport them.
29:49
Speaker 3: We'll explain what's.
29:49
Speaker 2: Happening there in a moment, but first, The Issue to
29:51
Speaker 2: Public Affairs has released a new documentary called The Faces
29:54
Speaker 2: of Net Zero, which shares the stories of several Victorian
29:57
Speaker 2: farmers who are being impacted by the States Yuable's roll out,
30:01
Speaker 2: particularly the V and I West Transmission Line project.
30:04
Speaker 3: Here here's a bit of a preview.
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Speaker 7: We definitely should have been consulted, and up to this point,
30:09
Speaker 7: I don't feel like I have been consulted at all.
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Speaker 5: Our property rights have been extensively eroded. I don't think
30:15
Speaker 5: that the government should be behaving the way they are.
30:17
Speaker 5: All Victorians should be an all Australian should be really
30:20
Speaker 5: concerned about this.
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Speaker 6: It makes me feel sick in the guts that they
30:23
Speaker 6: can come over here and just put a ruler across
30:26
Speaker 6: a map and say we're going there.
30:29
Speaker 2: Well, good to see you, because you and I spent
30:31
Speaker 2: most of genuine fevery up around this sort of area.
30:34
Speaker 2: We met the people, heartbreaking stuff, but you were really
30:38
Speaker 2: determined to turn this into vision and a story documentary
30:42
Speaker 2: that all Australians can watch and start to fight for
30:45
Speaker 2: these sorts of farmers.
30:46
Speaker 12: Well, that's exactly right, Peter. And as you experience firsthand
30:49
Speaker 12: speaking to these farmers and hearing their stories about exactly
30:53
Speaker 12: how this roller is affecting their communities, I mean what
30:55
Speaker 12: we heard is these communities are just being steamrolled by
30:59
Speaker 12: the political class and the elites, and their voices aren't
31:02
Speaker 12: being heard. And there's a reason for that because those
31:04
Speaker 12: who support net zero are doing so because they've been
31:07
Speaker 12: told that it's the right thing to do, that's the
31:09
Speaker 12: moral thing to do. But when you hear these very
31:11
Speaker 12: very real stories about what's happening to these communities, the
31:15
Speaker 12: way they're being bullied, the way their communities are being divided,
31:18
Speaker 12: the way their rights are being taken away, you no
31:20
Speaker 12: longer can feel good about supporting these policies. So that's
31:23
Speaker 12: why we put together this documentary to share these real
31:26
Speaker 12: stories from these real farmers.
31:28
Speaker 2: I know from my viewers there's a lot of really
31:29
Speaker 2: good people in the city who are supporting the farmers
31:32
Speaker 2: and regional communities right, they don't support net zero, they
31:35
Speaker 2: do not want this policy.
31:36
Speaker 3: To keep going.
31:37
Speaker 2: But there's a whole lot of people who just voted
31:39
Speaker 2: in May to return the Albanezy government who've drunk the
31:42
Speaker 2: kool aid, and it's like they don't care where their
31:45
Speaker 2: food comes from in the future. They don't care about
31:47
Speaker 2: the export earnings we have that pays for the NDIS
31:51
Speaker 2: and all the things they expect for free from government.
31:53
Speaker 3: How do you get that message across.
31:55
Speaker 12: Well, it's a hard one because for so many people
31:57
Speaker 12: in the city these policies in the concert quences are
32:00
Speaker 12: out of sight, out of mind, specifically with the rollout
32:03
Speaker 12: You mean, exactly right, But that's only now during the
32:06
Speaker 12: rollout stage. However, the downstream consequences of net zero policies,
32:10
Speaker 12: of the renewables rollout, it will hurt all Australians and
32:14
Speaker 12: they'll see the impact on their power bills, they'll see
32:16
Speaker 12: the impact on their grocery bills. It will hit all
32:19
Speaker 12: Australians where it hurts.
32:21
Speaker 3: I've got the other clip. Let's have a listen.
32:23
Speaker 5: If you see someone you know driving around, you're like,
32:26
Speaker 5: who's that? A bit of that you know is that
32:28
Speaker 5: TCV is that amo? You know, do we need to
32:30
Speaker 5: be letting someone know that because they know if they're
32:33
Speaker 5: out and about that, they're always up.
32:34
Speaker 3: To no good.
32:35
Speaker 5: And you know that's that's distressing to constantly be on guard.
32:38
Speaker 5: If planes are flying over, you know, you're on the
32:41
Speaker 5: app to see what plane that is? Is that? Is
32:43
Speaker 5: that one of those TCV planes?
32:45
Speaker 3: You know, what are they doing?
32:45
Speaker 5: We have lots of helicopters and stuff, lots of anxiety
32:48
Speaker 5: about what they're doing. And I mean I never even
32:51
Speaker 5: had an app the follow planes before that.
32:55
Speaker 2: And we also know through the Victorian Parliament they've ran
32:57
Speaker 2: through legislation that enables these companies now not to knock
33:01
Speaker 2: on the door and ask for access to the farm.
33:04
Speaker 2: They can just walk on and if a farmer says,
33:06
Speaker 2: hang on, this is my land. We do have property
33:09
Speaker 2: rights in this country. They're up for twelve forty thousand
33:12
Speaker 2: dollar fines.
33:13
Speaker 3: That's right.
33:14
Speaker 12: So the Labor Government's tabled new legislation and Victorian but
33:17
Speaker 12: Parliament which basically strips away any rights that these farmers
33:21
Speaker 12: originally had to protect their properties. Because this is what
33:24
Speaker 12: the Labor government does here in Victoria. If they can't
33:27
Speaker 12: work with the community, they steamroll them.
33:29
Speaker 3: And that's what the purpose of this legislation is.
33:31
Speaker 12: So any farmers now who stand up against and try
33:34
Speaker 12: to protect their properties, they're just going to be hit
33:36
Speaker 12: with fines up to twelve thousand dollars.
33:38
Speaker 2: And you and I know, like Victoria is the Petri
33:41
Speaker 2: Dish for labor. They try that in Victoria, they work
33:44
Speaker 2: the model up and it's just rolled out across the country.
33:46
Speaker 12: That's exactly right and also sets an enormous and oormously
33:50
Speaker 12: bad precedent for government here in Victoria. And all Victorians
33:53
Speaker 12: should be concerned because if they can do this to
33:55
Speaker 12: regional communities, it'll hit all Victorians soon.
33:58
Speaker 2: You also did all that research uncovering the dark money
34:03
Speaker 2: of these big projects and just how many of them
34:06
Speaker 2: are foreign owned.
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Speaker 12: Well, that's exactly right. This is all being propped up
34:09
Speaker 12: by foreign foreign companies. So we had a look at
34:13
Speaker 12: the fifty largest operating solar farms and the fifty largest
34:16
Speaker 12: wind farms here in Australia. And each year Australians are
34:19
Speaker 12: paying one point seven billion dollars to prop up these companies,
34:23
Speaker 12: but one point two billion dollars of that is going
34:26
Speaker 12: to foreign owned companies.
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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you very much.
34:30
Speaker 9: Idea.
34:30
Speaker 2: And there's a special deal if you're a regional person
34:33
Speaker 2: and had the Heartland membership.
34:36
Speaker 3: This is the da FID you Go website.
34:39
Speaker 2: You can join up and absolutely speak your mind and
34:43
Speaker 2: find your voice with the IPA. And there you'll also
34:46
Speaker 2: find from their website to a link to that doco. Please,
34:49
Speaker 2: I want you to watch that over the weekend and
34:51
Speaker 2: share it amongst your friends and family.
34:53
Speaker 3: All right after the break, why.
34:54
Speaker 2: Have the now one hundred thousand failed asylum seekers not
34:59
Speaker 2: being deported? Plast One Nation stand against yesterday's acknowledgment of country.
35:09
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the come Kel Richard's It's Wednesday, of course,
35:11
Speaker 2: but lad on the show. But first let's bring in
35:13
Speaker 2: my Wednesday Night panel, Scani's contributor to Jamie Rodgers and
35:17
Speaker 2: the chief of staff for One Nation James Ashby will
35:19
Speaker 2: welcome to you both. Susan Lee kicked off a first
35:23
Speaker 2: day in the Big Chair with the lead question at
35:25
Speaker 2: two o'clock today and it was all about housing.
35:28
Speaker 3: Let's have a listen.
35:29
Speaker 8: The Prime Minister promise to deliver one point two million homes,
35:33
Speaker 8: but he has let down young Australians by delivering just
35:37
Speaker 8: seventeen with leeked treasure advice confirming this is a broken promise.
35:43
Speaker 8: Will the Prime Minister abandon his failing policies?
35:47
Speaker 3: Jamie?
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Speaker 2: How do we get away with spending ten billion dollars
35:52
Speaker 2: on just seventeen new homes?
35:56
Speaker 3: It's disastrous, isn't it, Peter?
35:57
Speaker 13: There certainly has to be one of the.
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Speaker 3: Greatest failures of public policy. And in recent time, how
36:04
Speaker 3: ten billion.
36:04
Speaker 13: Dollars and in two years we've got seventeen homes to
36:07
Speaker 13: show for it that are newly built and three hundred
36:10
Speaker 13: that have been purchased. And it does go down to
36:13
Speaker 13: the fact that Labor government has got so much red
36:15
Speaker 13: tape that it makes construction.
36:16
Speaker 3: Processes so long.
36:18
Speaker 13: But I think it is also worth noting that the
36:21
Speaker 13: Australian National Audit Office are going to be constructed going
36:24
Speaker 13: through a review potentially of where all of these funds
36:27
Speaker 13: are going.
36:28
Speaker 3: But I think Peter, it also just really highlights.
36:30
Speaker 13: The importance of why we need a really strong opposition
36:33
Speaker 13: government to be able to hold the Labor government to
36:35
Speaker 13: account on things like this that can be brought to
36:38
Speaker 13: the forefront so that the Australian people know where their
36:42
Speaker 13: money is going and keep on top of all of
36:44
Speaker 13: these things.
36:46
Speaker 2: James, I'm going to ask you about asylum seekers, but
36:48
Speaker 2: i want to ask you about the policy detail of
36:50
Speaker 2: housing just quickly, because I've done a bit of a
36:53
Speaker 2: deep dive over the last couple of weeks. I can't
36:55
Speaker 2: find the answers to this question.
36:57
Speaker 3: Are these housing.
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Speaker 2: Commission homes of the old style we're all familiar with,
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Speaker 2: or these homes that people on an income, working people
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Speaker 2: will get for free or buy or rent to buy.
37:10
Speaker 2: What's the financial model.
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Speaker 4: Here, Well, no one quite knows, Peter. I think they're
37:16
Speaker 4: just clutching in straws. They'll take anything. The model as
37:19
Speaker 4: we see it, most of the funding will end up,
37:22
Speaker 4: or most of the houses that will be built will
37:24
Speaker 4: end up in the care and responsibility of the states,
37:28
Speaker 4: which I might just add aren't doing a very good
37:30
Speaker 4: job of looking after social housing across the country. I
37:33
Speaker 4: know in our area there's so many homes that are dilapidated,
37:37
Speaker 4: that are vacant that could be used much more effectively
37:40
Speaker 4: and better. We've also got people in homes that have
37:43
Speaker 4: been there for most of their life, like Albow's mum,
37:46
Speaker 4: that would probably suit a larger family if they were
37:50
Speaker 4: to say to that sole occupant, listen, you've got a
37:54
Speaker 4: full bedroom house. I understand you raise kids here twenty
37:56
Speaker 4: years ago, but it's time for you to move on
37:58
Speaker 4: and we should be recycling those assets to build better
38:02
Speaker 4: ones in better regions. And I just don't understand though,
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Speaker 4: how this government. And it wasn't just this government that
38:09
Speaker 4: made this promise either, it was the coalition prior to
38:11
Speaker 4: the election. They also promised to build one point two
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Speaker 4: million homes. They both failed.
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Speaker 2: Right, stay with housing, because if we've got over one
38:21
Speaker 2: hundred thousand people who came here when they shouldn't have
38:24
Speaker 2: came here illegally claimed asylum, have been tested to be
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Speaker 2: a refugee, found not to be refugees, many of them,
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Speaker 2: as we know, appeal all the way up to the
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Speaker 2: High Court. They've been knocked back. One hundred thousand of them.
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Speaker 2: They haven't gone home. We've got another sort of twenty
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Speaker 2: oney twenty seven thousand in the mix for a decision
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Speaker 2: on applications in June. These people failed. They're in Australia,
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Speaker 2: one hundred thousand of them. They're probably living in public
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Speaker 2: housing as well. We want to wonder why we've got
38:53
Speaker 2: a housing crisis. If we are housing and feeding and
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Speaker 2: clothing and funding one hundred thousand people who should go home,
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Speaker 2: not refugees, So what's going on?
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Speaker 4: Well, the article's released this week, I ever noticed the
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Speaker 4: ABC couldn't help but reveal the fact that homelessness in
39:11
Speaker 4: this country has gone up by ten percent since this
39:15
Speaker 4: Albanesi government came to power. And is it any wonder
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Speaker 4: when you've got one hundred thousand people who you know,
39:21
Speaker 4: and let's look at the countries they've come from. Vietnam,
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Speaker 4: China and India. They're the three biggest countries now claiming
39:27
Speaker 4: for this refugee humanitarian status. I'm afraid what we've done
39:32
Speaker 4: is we've made it so easy for these people to
39:34
Speaker 4: make the application. A lot of them came here as
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Speaker 4: farm workers or the picking fruit kind of industry, and
39:43
Speaker 4: they've overstayed and rather than go home, they've made an application.
39:47
Speaker 4: They've been found to be false, They've been found to
39:49
Speaker 4: have no humanitarian reason to stay here. Think about it,
39:52
Speaker 4: plenty of ours has gone holiday in these very countries
39:54
Speaker 4: that these people are claiming to be seeking asylum from.
39:57
Speaker 4: There's nothing wrong with them. They should go home. In
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Speaker 4: the meantime, We've also got seventy five thousand people that
40:04
Speaker 4: have overstayed their visas that are here in the country,
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Speaker 4: still working, still operating, still taking our homes. You know,
40:10
Speaker 4: it doesn't take much for you to add up the figures.
40:12
Speaker 4: This is why homelessness is so big. We should be
40:15
Speaker 4: clamping down like the United States does and says if
40:19
Speaker 4: you are not here legitimately go home. If you overstay,
40:22
Speaker 4: you just get banned from this country. We'll put you
40:24
Speaker 4: on a flight. We've got parachutes now, Peter, that auto
40:28
Speaker 4: deploy at a certain night. If they don't want to go,
40:31
Speaker 4: chuck them on an aircraft, open the back, throw them out.
40:34
Speaker 4: Australians are sick to death of accommodating these overstates. Yes,
40:40
Speaker 4: that's might completely Yesible Pilette.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the news or the revelations.
40:45
Speaker 2: Victoria's former Commissioner for Children and Young People actually warned
40:49
Speaker 2: the state government three years ago the quote children would
40:53
Speaker 2: be abused if the Reportable Conduct Scheme was continued to
40:59
Speaker 2: be starved of funds. This is the body that it
41:01
Speaker 2: oversights and protects the childcare sector and keeps them all honest.
41:06
Speaker 2: I knowing that this one Jamie is a Victorian issue.
41:09
Speaker 2: But you've got cases like this that we've seen in Victoria,
41:11
Speaker 2: the alleged alleged abuse of young children. You've got them
41:14
Speaker 2: in Queensland, You've got them in newturth Wales, are right
41:17
Speaker 2: across the country. I mean, this is the wild West.
41:21
Speaker 2: We've got Parliament sitting in camera. As I said, the
41:24
Speaker 2: laws that have been put into the Parliament today, a
41:26
Speaker 2: lot of the things that don't even need laws to do,
41:28
Speaker 2: they could do them.
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Speaker 3: Now they've got the will. I think this is unforgivable.
41:33
Speaker 13: You're right, Peter, it's an absolute disgrace and it's just
41:37
Speaker 13: so concerning as well when you think about in Victoria
41:40
Speaker 13: that commissioner left her position close to four months ago
41:44
Speaker 13: and it's still sitting vacant. So it just shows that
41:47
Speaker 13: it's not a priority and we have to be taking
41:49
Speaker 13: urgent action. And I do like I know you were
41:51
Speaker 13: speaking about it earlier in your program. I do like
41:53
Speaker 13: the steps that Jason Clair has said about taking funding
41:57
Speaker 13: away from childcare centers if they don't reach the safety standards.
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Speaker 13: But that's stuff, as you mentioned, that we could have
42:02
Speaker 13: already done, and it is just the start of a
42:04
Speaker 13: much bigger issue. Now, this commissioner had been saying, as
42:08
Speaker 13: you said for three years, saying, if we don't get
42:10
Speaker 13: enough funding, children will be abused by people who should
42:14
Speaker 13: or could have been removed from the system. And the
42:16
Speaker 13: same level of funding has been received for this organization
42:20
Speaker 13: since twenty seventeen through to now, even though cases have
42:23
Speaker 13: risen by eighty one percent.
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Speaker 3: So it is a growing issue, Peter. And yes we've addressed.
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Speaker 13: Something today, but there are so many elements of this
42:30
Speaker 13: childcare sector that is failing families and letting children down
42:34
Speaker 13: right across the country.
42:37
Speaker 3: Well, let's go to the.
42:38
Speaker 2: Whole welcome to country and acknowledgement of country stuff. That's
42:41
Speaker 2: happened the last couple of days. There was an Aboriginal ceremony,
42:45
Speaker 2: a welcome to country, so that's given by Aboriginal people.
42:49
Speaker 2: That was in the Great Hall James yesterday. Is part
42:52
Speaker 2: of all the ceremonial opening events for Parliament. And then
42:55
Speaker 2: when the MP's and senators get into the chamber in
43:00
Speaker 2: the case of the Senate, the speaker in the House,
43:02
Speaker 2: they gave an acknowledgment. So this is the white fella
43:05
Speaker 2: acknowledging Black land ownership and all the other things that
43:09
Speaker 2: come with it. Now they're getting longer and longer, and
43:11
Speaker 2: your mob stood up and turned their backs to the president.
43:15
Speaker 4: Why did that happen, Well, because we've taken the direction
43:21
Speaker 4: of the Australian public that voted not only for one nation,
43:24
Speaker 4: but voted at the referendum to say no to division.
43:28
Speaker 4: And that was during the Voice And we're not going
43:30
Speaker 4: to stop here, Peter. I think it's only fair that
43:33
Speaker 4: Australia's voices are heard. This is one performance that Australians
43:39
Speaker 4: are over and I know you've discussed this plenty of
43:42
Speaker 4: times on your program, but we're also we're going to
43:44
Speaker 4: take it further as well. We're going to stand against
43:48
Speaker 4: those renaming of townships and places like my hometown of
43:51
Speaker 4: Great Kept Island that they want to rename Whopper. We've
43:54
Speaker 4: already had some of the islands off our coast of
43:57
Speaker 4: Queensland renamed. There's also other issues that Australians want stopped
44:03
Speaker 4: as well, like, for example, when bush fires break out,
44:06
Speaker 4: you shouldn't have to seek permission from traditional owners to
44:09
Speaker 4: go and fight the fire. These are just some of
44:11
Speaker 4: the issues that one nation will be sticking up for
44:14
Speaker 4: the rest of the silent majority across Australia. We'll raise
44:18
Speaker 4: it in our Parliament and we will take a stand.
44:20
Speaker 4: We will speak out when people have been ignored by
44:24
Speaker 4: the major party. So yes, turning our back on Welcome
44:26
Speaker 4: to Countries just stage one of what we intend to
44:29
Speaker 4: do over the next three years to give power back
44:32
Speaker 4: to the Australian people. Where over the division it's got
44:34
Speaker 4: to stop.
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Speaker 3: Te you, I'm with you on the acknowledgment of country.
44:40
Speaker 3: I go like a bar of it.
44:41
Speaker 2: I don't want it when I land a plane. I
44:43
Speaker 2: don't want it when I click on a website, I
44:45
Speaker 2: don't want it when I go into a shop to
44:46
Speaker 2: buy clothes. It's got nothing at all to do with
44:49
Speaker 2: indigenous rights. Well done, We'll done one nation on that one.
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Speaker 3: Thank you both. See next week.
44:54
Speaker 2: Have the rate words matter with Kel Richards, welcome back,
45:02
Speaker 2: join him as he does every Wednesday, our wordsmith extraordinaire,
45:05
Speaker 2: Cal Richards. Well, we've got some goodies tonight. One of
45:09
Speaker 2: them I used last night, Gerald says. The depleted Liberal
45:14
Speaker 2: Party and that big loss I think is referencing me
45:17
Speaker 2: here that they were given a real shellacking at the
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Speaker 2: last election. That was where my dad used to love.
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Speaker 2: I don't really know the origins here, but you'll tell
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Speaker 2: me I will.
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Speaker 14: Shellacking as a verb started out as applying a coat
45:31
Speaker 14: of shellac. Shellac was stuff actually called lack originally, stuff
45:36
Speaker 14: made out of the wings of certain insects, and it
45:39
Speaker 14: was painted over woodwork to give it a protective shell,
45:43
Speaker 14: a shellacking. That's how it began life, and then quite suddenly,
45:48
Speaker 14: around nineteen thirty in America, it started to be applied
45:52
Speaker 14: to sporting events, being a disastrous loss, a thumping, you know,
45:56
Speaker 14: that kind of thing. And the way the switch was
45:59
Speaker 14: made is probably because in a colloquial American at the time,
46:04
Speaker 14: being shall act meant being drunk. Apparently down and out
46:08
Speaker 14: alcoholics used to drink shall act a horrifying core yeah,
46:12
Speaker 14: because it was dissolved in alcohol, so being shall act
46:15
Speaker 14: was being drunk. And it looks as though that way
46:18
Speaker 14: it was transferred originally to boxing because they had an
46:21
Speaker 14: existing expression punch drunk, So you gave someone a shellaking
46:24
Speaker 14: in the ring. Then from boxing to all sports, and
46:27
Speaker 14: then from sports to politics. So you give someone a beating,
46:31
Speaker 14: you give them a shell aking. That's the history of
46:33
Speaker 14: the word.
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Speaker 10: Wow.
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Speaker 2: That one snaked through the years, didn't it Peter wants
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Speaker 2: today where the term kit and kaboodle originated.
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Speaker 14: From the Dutch appears to be a Dutch expression which
46:47
Speaker 14: came into English and then became so anglicized. I don't
46:50
Speaker 14: think the Dutch would recognize it anymore. Originally, kit in
46:53
Speaker 14: Dutch meant a barrel, but then it very quickly came
46:57
Speaker 14: to mean a collection of equipment or tools. My own
47:00
Speaker 14: this is probably a barrel was where the tools and
47:03
Speaker 14: equipment were stored, but it very quickly came to mean,
47:06
Speaker 14: you know, a set of workmen's tools or a soldier's equipment,
47:09
Speaker 14: that kind of thing. The second word, kaboodle started out
47:13
Speaker 14: as a Dutch word, which is a bit like boodle,
47:16
Speaker 14: and meant a bundle. Now it looks as though that
47:21
Speaker 14: sound at the beginning of boodle was added just to
47:24
Speaker 14: make it alliterate with kit. So you had kit and
47:27
Speaker 14: not boodle, but kit and kaboodle. So it seems to
47:31
Speaker 14: have come from the Dutch. And when Andrew Boll comes back,
47:33
Speaker 14: we'll ask him for the Dutch original.
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Speaker 3: I did think of that too, heya.
47:39
Speaker 2: Not many things really get under my skin in terms
47:41
Speaker 2: of language, but this one does. We've always said in Australian,
47:46
Speaker 2: British English. Someone has passed away. Now we've adopted this
47:50
Speaker 2: American nonsense that they have passed.
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Speaker 14: I have to say, the Americans are historically more accurate
47:59
Speaker 14: than we are. It goes back to the year.
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Speaker 1: Twenty wow five.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, which is a bit surprising, knowing what Americans do
48:07
Speaker 14: to the language. But it goes back to eight hundred
48:09
Speaker 14: years and in those very early ones it was a
48:11
Speaker 14: part of a longer phrase people had passed to God,
48:14
Speaker 14: or they'd passed to heaven. That was the original idea,
48:17
Speaker 14: and the Oxford says the meaning of it is that
48:19
Speaker 14: someone has passed their soul or spirit into their spiritual destination.
48:23
Speaker 14: Now away actually undermines that because it suggests they've passed
48:28
Speaker 14: into nothing, they've been snuffed out, extinguished or whatever. So
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Speaker 14: just passed is looking at the history of the language
48:36
Speaker 14: actually better. Sorry, but it is.
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Speaker 3: Oh. I don't want to hear that. I don't want
48:40
Speaker 3: to hear that.
48:41
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that they passed away to heaven.
48:43
Speaker 2: I'll put them in heaven or purgatory if they're not
48:45
Speaker 2: so good, and hell, if they're terrible, I'll leave it there.
48:48
Speaker 3: Cow, thank you. That's it for me for a couple
48:51
Speaker 3: of weeks.
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Speaker 2: I'm going on leave, but in this very chair you'll
48:54
Speaker 2: have the wonderful Steve Price filling in for me onile my.
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Speaker 3: Way, so i'll have a bit of a winter break.
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Speaker 2: You'll stay fired up because Steve will keep you fired up,
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Speaker 2: and I'll see you when I get back.
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Speaker 3: All the best. Here's the Bolt Report with James Bigpherson.